[hugin-ptx] focal length for Dodecahedron (12 images)?

[Jan Martin]

Hello

I need to shoot a 360x180 pano as a Dodecahedron (12 images).

What is the ideal focal length?
With what roll, pitch yaw values to shoot for as little overlap as possible?

What kind of tools do you recommend to do this kind of planning?

Thanks,
Jan

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[hugin-ptx] Create GPU version of implement vig_optimize and multiblend?

[Jan Martin]

Hello,

the announcement for hugin 2015 states:
"Many of the underlying tools in hugin are now able to use available cpu cores".

My workflow is by command-line only and involves vig_optimize, nona
and multiblend. Also panoramas are processed in parallel already.
So this does not speed things up at all.

The real challenge is that only nona uses the GPU.

I wonder if one could create GPU (CUDA) versions of vig_optimize and
multiblend and then run them in parallel on the GPU?
Any thoughts?

Or is there any other way to speed up vig_optimize?
Maybe limiting the number of points or the levels?
I have not been able to find any documentation on what values to use
for points or levels. Any insight is appreciated.

Jan

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[hugin-ptx] nona crops automatically? How to stop this?

[Jan Martin]

Hello,

testing new
nona version 2015.0.0.31a6f3742639

nona -v -o "-5"  "5.pto"
Remapping and stitching
loading 5.jpg
remapping 5.jpg
blending 5.jpg
loading 5.jpg
remapping 5.jpg
blending 5.jpg
loading 5.jpg
remapping 5.jpg
blending 5.jpg
loading 5.jpg
remapping 5.jpg
blending 5.jpg
loading 5.jpg
remapping 5.jpg
blending 5.jpg
loading 5.jpg
remapping 5.jpg
blending 5.jpg
saving result 5.jpg

But the resulting .jpg panorama  is 8192 x 3823 pixel only.
It should have been 8192 x 4096 pixel.

Nona did crop it unasked.

How to stop this?
There are no options listed for nona.

.pto file:

# hugin project file
#hugin_ptoversion 2
p f2 w8192 h4096 v360  k1 E12.0631 R0 n"JPG c:NONE"
m g1 i0 f0 m2 p0.00784314
...

Also tried this, same unwanted cropping:

# hugin project file
#hugin_ptoversion 2
p f2 w8192 h4096 v360  k1 E12.0631 R0 S0,8192,0,4096 n"JPEG c:85"
m g1 i0 f0 m2 p0.00784314
...

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[hugin-ptx] nona on Amazon AWS EC2 wit GPU?

[Jan Martin]

Hello,

I am trying to run nona on a Ubuntu Amazon EC2 AMI with a GPU.
Did anyone get the GPU to work?
What is needed?


Thanks,
Jan Martin

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Hugin 2015.0 beta2

[Jan Martin]

Hello Stefan,

for sure I am not the only one happy to help with testing.

If it just won't be that hard.
I run Ubuntu 14.04. 64 bit.

So i guess it is
https://launchpad.net/~hugin/+archive/ubuntu/next/+sourcepub/5049222/+listing-archive-extra

And now?

Someone please explain step-by step.

Thanks.





On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Stefan Peter  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Please find packages for Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty), 14.10 (Utopic), 15.04
> (Vivid) and 15.10 (Wily) in the Hugin PPA Packagers *next Hugin Build"
> ppa at
> https://launchpad.net/~hugin/+archive/ubuntu/next/+packages
>
> As always these packages are based on the Debian PhotoTools Maintainers
> work, namely Andreas Metzler: Thank you guys!
>
> Due to the fact that these packages are built against wxWidgets 3.0.0
> which is built with debug in Ubuntu, installing these packages may
> expose problems not (yet) visible in other distributions.
>
> Fortunately, we were able to fix quite some bugs related to wxWidgets
> during the beta1 cycle. However, a software as complex as hugin has a
> lot of possible work flows which all may expose different problems.
>
> Therefore, I really _urge_ all Ubuntu users to give these builds a spin
> in order to be able to fix the last bugs. I promise to provide updated
> packages during the beta2 cycle for all bug fixes released by the devs.
>
> Additionally, removing hugin, hugin-tools and hugin-data, disabling the
> "next Hugin Builds " repository and reinstalling hugin from the standard
> sources will get you back to a working hugin version if you managed to
> run into a show stopper bug.
>
> Please send bug reports to this list or use
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+filebug
> to report a bug.
>
> Thank you very much for your participation.
>
> Cheers
>
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[hugin-ptx] Pipe for nona -> mutiblend/enblend ?

[Jan Martin]

Hello,

is there a way to pipe the nona output directly into multiblend/enblend?
I am working with the command line.

What's needed to add STDOUT to nona?

Can you think of any technical reason against this approach?

Thanks,
Jan

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Problems with exposure compensation

[Jan Martin]

How to do "exposure fused" by command-line only?
Without hugin?

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[hugin-ptx] enblend error

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

suddenly I am getting errors with enblend:

verson:
enblend -V
enblend 4.0-753b534c819d

uname -a
Linux ips 3.2.0-52-generic #78-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 26 16:21:44 UTC 2013
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Any idea what to do?

Error:

*** glibc detected *** enblend: free(): invalid next size (fast):
0x01be5330 ***
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x7eb96)[0x7fed53c13b96]
enblend[0x42083d]
enblend[0x4bf3d8]
enblend[0x589be8]
enblend[0x5de6df]
enblend[0x40b7d9]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed)[0x7fed53bb676d]
enblend[0x40ce41]
=== Memory map: 
0040-0067 r-xp  08:01 1050646
/usr/bin/enblend
0087-00871000 r--p 0027 08:01 1050646
/usr/bin/enblend
00871000-00872000 rw-p 00271000 08:01 1050646
/usr/bin/enblend
00872000-008b5000 rw-p  00:00 0
017c9000-11e69000 rw-p  00:00 0
[heap]
401e4000-401e6000 r-xs  00:11 29241
/tmp/gl4hVJeD (deleted)
418f3000-41971000 rw-p  00:00 0
7fed19cdb000-7fed23929000 rw-p  00:00 0
7fed2b6af000-7fed2b7af000 rw-s 3b1326000 00:05 14293
/dev/nvidia0
7fed2b92a000-7fed35578000 rw-p  00:00 0
7fed3d177000-7fed435a9000 rw-p  00:00 0
7fed47a24000-7fed4f5ab000 rw-p  00:00 0
7fed4f5ab000-7fed4f7ab000 rw-s 3b99bf000 00:05 14293
/dev/nvidia0
7fed4f7ab000-7fed4f9ab000 rw-s 3b9adf000 00:05 14293
/dev/nvidia0
7fed4f9ab000-7fed4fbab000 rw-s 3c2adb000 00:05 14293
/dev/nvidia0
7fed4fbab000-7fed4fcab000 rw-s 3a9bd8000 00:05 14293
/dev/nvidia0
7fed4fcab000-7fed4fccb000 rw-s e004 00:05 14293
/dev/nvidia0
7fed4fccb000-7fed4fd0b000 rw-s 3dc754000 00:05 14293
/dev/nvidia0
7fed4fd0b000-7fed4fd2b000 rw-s 3dc683000 00:05 14293
/dev/nvidia0
7fed4fd2b000-7fed4fff4000 r--p  08:01 1054338
/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive
7fed4fff4000-7fed4fff9000 r-xp  08:01 1059093
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
7fed4fff9000-7fed501f8000 ---p 5000 08:01 1059093
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
7fed501f8000-7fed501f9000 r--p 4000 08:01 1059093
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
7fed501f9000-7fed501fa000 rw-p 5000 08:01 1059093
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
7fed501fa000-7fed501fc000 r-xp  08:01 1059091
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6.0.0
7fed501fc000-7fed503fb000 ---p 2000 08:01 1059091
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6.0.0
7fed503fb000-7fed503fc000 r--p 1000 08:01 1059091
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6.0.0
7fed503fc000-7fed503fd000 rw-p 2000 08:01 1059091
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6.0.0
7fed503fd000-7fed5041a000 r-xp  08:01 1059097
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1.1.0
7fed5041a000-7fed50619000 ---p 0001d000 08:01 1059097
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1.1.0
7fed50619000-7fed5061a000 r--p 0001c000 08:01 1059097
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1.1.0
7fed5061a000-7fed5061b000 rw-p 0001d000 08:01 1059097
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1.1.0
7fed5061b000-7fed50621000 r-xp  08:01 1073023
/usr/lib/libIlmThread.so.6.0.0
7fed50621000-7fed5082 ---p 6000 08:01 1073023
/usr/lib/libIlmThread.so.6.0.0
7fed5082-7fed50821000 r--p 5000 08:01 1073023
/usr/lib/libIlmThread.so.6.0.0
7fed50821000-7fed50822000 rw-p 6000 08:01 1073023
/usr/lib/libIlmThread.so.6.0.0
7fed50822000-7fed5083c000 r-xp  08:01 1073020
/usr/lib/libIex.so.6.0.0
7fed5083c000-7fed50a3c000 ---p 0001a000 08:01 1073020
/usr/lib/libIex.so.6.0.0
7fed50a3c000-7fed50a4 r--p 0001a000 08:01 1073020
/usr/lib/libIex.so.6.0.0
7fed50a4-7fed50a41000 rw-p 0001e000 08:01 1073020
/usr/lib/libIex.so.6.0.0
7fed50a41000-7fed50a45000 r-xp  08:01 1073022
/usr/lib/libImath.so.6.0.0
7fed50a45000-7fed50c45000 ---p 4000 08:01 1073022
/usr/lib/libImath.so.6.0.0
7fed50c45000-7fed50c46000 r--p 4000 08:01 1073022
/usr/lib/libImath.so.6.0.0
7fed50c46000-7fed50c47000 rw-p 5000 08:01 1073022
/usr/lib/libImath.so.6.0.0
7fed50c47000-7fed50c5d000 r-xp  08:01 393444
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1.2.3.4
7fed50c5d000-7fed50e5c000 ---p 00016000 08:01 393444
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1.2.3.4
7fed50e5c000-7fed50e5d000 r--p 00015000 08:01 393444
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1.2.3.4
7fed50e5d000-7fed50e5e000 rw-p 00016000 08:01 393444
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1.2.3.4
7fed50e5e000-7fed50e6 r-xp  08:01 405445
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.15.so
7fed50e6-7fed5106 ---p 2000 08:01 405445
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.15.so
7fed5106-7fed51061000 r--p 2000 08:01 405445
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.15.so
7fed51061000-7fed51062000 rw-p 3000 08:01 405445
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.15.so
7fed51062000-7fed51072000 r-xp  08:01 1051416
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6.4.0
7fed51072000-7fed51271000 ---p 0001 08:01 1051416
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6.4.0
7fed51271000-7fed51272000 r--p f000 08:01 1051416
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6.4.0
7fed51272000-7fed51273000 rw-p 0001

Re: [hugin-ptx] remapping sphere (from outside) to a flat projection

[Jan Martin]

Hi Loyd,

I think Jim assumed you have a globe without stand.
Just do as you thought. Images will be fine.

Your project sounds interesting.
Please upload the images to make them available.
We will have a look and then provide you with the hugin configuration file,
so you can see how it is done.

It is hard to describe the complete process with all if-then-else cases
key-by key to a rookie.

Jan




On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:15 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Jim and thanks for your reply. I apologise but I don't understand the
> point of the "large heavy glass". Why couldn't I just set the camera up on
> a tripod, aim it at the globe across the room, and take several pictures
> while I rotate the globe, without otherwise moving it, by 60 degrees or so
> each time, with no glass involved anywhere?
>
> And sorry to be "that guy" but could you explain in a little more detail
> the following:
>
>
> I believe if you set the lens type as fullframe fisheye and allow for
>> heavy abc
>> distortion it should stitch.
>> You will get an equirectangular image.
>>
>
> I've never used hugin before so if you could just elaborate a little on
> the steps that will be involved once I have my 8 or so photos (cropped, I
> assume, to a circular shape) - do I have to specify which photos are of the
> poles or will it figure it out automatically?
>
> I appreciate it. Lloyd.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: PTBatcherGUI temp folder and best performance?

[Jan Martin]

Hi Thomas,

you nailed it.

I have
- 64 bit Windows,
- lots of RAM,
- fast SSD.

Running as many batches in parallel as there are cores is the most
permanent setup I found.

I just posted a bounty today for a command-line option to "shut down
PTBatcherGUI when done" at this list.
An option for the temp folder would be nice too.

Jan



On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:58 PM, T. Modes  wrote:

>
>
> Am Samstag, 20. Juli 2013 21:01:03 UTC+2 schrieb Jan Martin:
>
>>
>> Performance:
>> I am using --parallel with as many .pto files as there are cores.
>> Each .pto files is ony 6 files with 5 MB each. But a real lot of .pto
>> files.
>>
>> Is that the right setting for best performance?
>>
>>
> The single programs are not designed to run in several instances parallel.
> They (nona, enblend, enfuse) are using as much threads as there are cores
> and consume a lot of memory.
> For the first point you can limit the number of threads to one in the
> Hugin settings. But this does not solve the problem with the memory usage.
> So I would not recommend to run several instances parallel (except you
> have a lot of free memory, a very fast hard disc and a 64-bit version).
>
> Thomas
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[hugin-ptx] bounty for "close program" command line option for PTBatcherGUI

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

this has been discussed before, but never done.

I like to provide a bounty for the "close program Window when done
processing" command line option for PTBatcherGUI.
Looking for a compiled version for Windows 7, 64bit.

Looking for:
/c, --close  close PTBatcherGUI Window when done

Existing Options:

/h, --help show this help message
/b, --batch run batch immediately
/p, --parallel run batch projects in parallel
/d, --delete delete *.pto files after stitching
/o, --overwrite overwrite previous files without asking
/s, --shutdown shutdown computer after batch is complete
/v, --verbose show verbose output when processing projects


This is needed to process lots of batches of e.g. 4 .pto files in parallel.
Without closing the Window it seems impossible to determine if PTBatcherGUI
is done with this batch or not.
Just minimizing the Window will not do.

Anyone interested?

Thanks,
Jan

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Re: [hugin-ptx] PTBatcherGUI temp folder and best performance?

[Jan Martin]

According to
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Batch_Processor

these are the command line options:


   -  /h, --help show this help message
   -  /b, --batch run batch immediately
   -  /p, --parallel run batch projects in parallel
   -  /d, --delete delete *.pto files after stitching
   -  /o, --overwrite overwrite previous files without asking
   -  /s, --shutdown shutdown computer after batch is complete
   - /v, --verbose show verbose output when processing projects


Nothing about temp.

Anyone got first-hand experience?

Thanks.


On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 9:13 PM, dmg  wrote:

> Hi Jan,
>
> Try setting the environment variable TMP or TMPDIR to where you want
> the files (at least they are supposed to work for PTmender and other
> PT tools).
>
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> >
> > this is about PTBatcherGUI from the command line on Windows 7.
> >
> > Is there a way to set the tmp folder for the .tiff files?
> > So far they are in the same folder as the resulting .jpg images.
> >
> > Performance:
> > I am using --parallel with as many .pto files as there are cores.
> > Each .pto files is ony 6 files with 5 MB each. But a real lot of .pto
> files.
> >
> > Is that the right setting for best performance?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jan
> >
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[hugin-ptx] PTBatcherGUI temp folder and best performance?

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

this is about PTBatcherGUI from the command line on Windows 7.

Is there a way to set the tmp folder for the .tiff files?
So far they are in the same folder as the resulting .jpg images.

Performance:
I am using --parallel with as many .pto files as there are cores.
Each .pto files is ony 6 files with 5 MB each. But a real lot of .pto files.

Is that the right setting for best performance?

Thanks,

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[hugin-ptx] How do they stitch this pano video from 3 cameras?

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

I am wondering how they stitch this?

Rig with 3 cameras:
http://www.geonaute360.com

Panoramic Video:
http://www.wesphere.com/swf/embed.php?id=video_007

Anyone got a clue?

Thanks,
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: unrelated groups with big images

[Jan Martin]

Zip an upload the original images and your .pto file please.

On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 8:15 PM, paolobenve  wrote:

> Upgrading to hugin 2012.0.0 resolves the problem with unrelated images,
> but some image is given a 90º rotation, and the resulting stitching is
> still very weird.
>
> Il giorno domenica 23 dicembre 2012 20:02:36 UTC+1, paolobenve ha scritto:
>
>> I have a set of 11 2736x3648 images which represent the rests of a
>> medieval builduing; I shooted them from a higher point.
>>
>> The problem I have is that if I try to stitch the images (with hugin
>> 2011.4.0.cf9be9344356) in their size, hugin cannot find the appropriate
>> control points: it finds some, but two groups of unrelated images remain,
>> and the stitched image I am able to generate is very weird.
>>
>> But if I reduce the images to 1354x1805, all the needed cp's are found,
>> and the image are stitched very well.
>>
>> I'm using hugin's cpfind as cp generator
>>
>> All this stuff is very weird, I'd rather think hugin should work better
>> with bigger images, resizing them should degrade the images and make more
>> difficult the process.
>>
>> Any explication? a cpfind bug?
>>
>> Would it be useful to send the images which don't stitch well?
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Creating 360/180 Panoramas for Google+/Picasa lightbox display

[Jan Martin]

A few observations after playing a bit this morning:

I uploaded to google+ using my PC, not Android 4.2:

- Uploaded panoramas are downscaled to 2508 x1254 pixel.
- "Download full size" refers to the downscaled panorama, not the original.
- With Firefox there is a nasty black seam where the left and right end of
the pano touches. (Firefox 17 on 64 bit Ubuntu Linux). Not so with
Chromium. Also happened with Bruno's pano.
   Anyone observed this too?

There seems to be no way to share with "Maps".
Anyone got any idea how to publish a hugin created panorama into Google
maps?

Jan


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> On Nov 26, 2012 7:44 AM, "Jan Martin" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Please be so kind to explain how to do the following using exiftool?
> >
> > # Exiv2 Google Photo Sphere command file
> > # -
> > #
> >
> > # $ exiv2 -m photo-sphere.txt file ...
>
> It is an exiv2 command.
>
> There is likely a way of doing the same with exiftool, when you figure it
> out can you post it here?
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Creating 360/180 Panoramas for Google+/Picasa lightbox display

[Jan Martin]

Please be so kind to explain how to do the following using exiftool?

# Exiv2 Google Photo Sphere command file
# -
#

# $ exiv2 -m photo-sphere.txt file ...

reg GPano http://ns.google.com/photos/1.0/panorama/

set Xmp.GPano.UsePanoramaViewer XmpText True
set Xmp.GPano.ProjectionTypeXmpText equirectangular
set Xmp.GPano.CroppedAreaImageWidthPixels   XmpText 4096
set Xmp.GPano.CroppedAreaImageHeightPixels  XmpText 2048
set Xmp.GPano.FullPanoWidthPixels   XmpText 4096
set Xmp.GPano.FullPanoHeightPixels  XmpText 2048
set Xmp.GPano.CroppedAreaLeftPixels XmpText 0
set Xmp.GPano.CroppedAreaTopPixels  XmpText 0

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Announce: jpeg2qtvr-0.04

[Jan Martin]

Terminal:
sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install Image::Size'

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Bruno Postle wrote:

> On Oct 1, 2012 5:58 PM, "grek aaa" wrote:
> >
> > Hy any one know why i have this error ?
> >
> > erect2cubic --erect=g8.tif
> > Can't locate Image/Size.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl
> /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5
> /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14
> /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/bin/erect2cubic line 9.
> > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/erect2cubic line 9.
>
> You should get a list of missing perl modules when you do the install:
>
>   perl Makefile.PL
>
> You can install Image::Size with the cpan tool or using your package
> manager.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Help optimizing images

[Jan Martin]

I got this result last year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6DMSjtrTP0

You need to get the seams right first.
Be aware that a template will work for a single distance only.
So you need to know what kind of situation you will shoot later, and make a
template for that exact situation.
E.g. ALL control points at 10 meters from the camera.
Yours are at 5 meters on the sand, and at the horizon in the opposite
direction.
Also there are absolutely no cps on all the the seams of sky and asphalt.
That will never work.

>From my experience using a tripod and setting up in a small clearing in the
woods with 10 meter diameter to high trees really works well.
You need lots of features at ALL the seams.
Then place the cps manually because you do not have the overlap nor the
resolution for any automatic cp finder to ever work.

Like Bruno suggested use "enblend --no-optimize" to avoid flickering of the
seams.

Also you need decent images for making the template. Shoot at around noon
for that.
Not very late in the afternoon with the sun close to the horizon, screwing
up the images.

What I did when trying your images was to close hugin, make a copy of
2-2.png, change brightness and saturation in Gimp until I could actually
see something, then use that image for manual cps. Then close hugin, rename
images back.
Open hugin and optimize for exposure with the original image.

This is the pano I got:
http://bit.ly/NH6Fdb

Temp image for control points only:
http://bit.ly/QbYjNL

For shooting later:
Avoid shooting at dusk and dawn, the cameras you use are known to be bad
with low-light situations.
Also do not optimize for exposure at all or the resulting video will
flicker. Like yours does.

While we are at it:
It would be nice to have a way to adjust brightness and saturation for the
images at the hugin control points tab.
Just to help place cps, nothing else.

And It would be even better to have a way to rotate the images on the
control points tab.
Maybe even have an extra button to take over the rotation from the preview
window.

Any developer reading this?

Jan


On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Bruno Postle  wrote:

> On Sat 21-Jul-2012 at 10:29 -0300, Jim Watters wrote:
>
>>
>> With a multi-camera rig there will always be some parallax error. When
>> shooting video with the rig moving around the sometimes the subject will be
>> close sometimes at infinity.
>>
>
> I think Caleb's intention is to use this rig in a place where parallax
> isn't a problem.
>
>
>  For blending the seams together I would not use a "smart" blender. They
>> will choose the best path for the seam for each frame and it will cause a
>> wiggle in the final video, especially if the camera is stationary. Use a
>> simple feather instead. or very narrow blending using masks to force the
>> actual seam location.
>>
>
> There is an enblend --no-optimize option which should result in
> identically placed seams regardless of photo content.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Help optimizing images

[Jan Martin]

Please post a picture of your rig too.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Holding position of one image

[Jan Martin]

You need to have two lenses, one for reach image.
Only optimize the one for the art, no the photo.

Everything that is bold on the Optimizer tab can be changed.
Make sure nothing for the picture  is bold.


On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Patrick David  wrote:

> Not sure if this has been answered (I searched through the group but was
> unable to find anything relevant - my search-fu might be off...).
>
> I have 2 images - a piece of artwork, and a photo of that artwork.
>
> I would like to remap the artwork to fit it in the photograph - but I
> don't want the photograph to be remapped or modified (just adjust the
> artwork to fit in the photo).
>
> For the life of me I can't seem to get this to work quite right.  I've set
> the photograph to be an anchor for position, but some optimization
> parameters still cause the photo to be remapped...
>
> Is there something I'm missing to let one of my images stay exactly how it
> is, and to only remap the other to fit it?
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Re: [hugin-ptx] image stack order

[Jan Martin]

Just gave it a test on Ubuntu 64 bit with hugin 2011.5.0.d5f0b74cc78b.
All present. Works as it should.



On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Darius Blaszyk wrote:

> After updating to 2011.4.0 still no luck.
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Darius Blaszyk wrote:
>
> Still no luck, after renaming the image files to the order in which I need
> them and creating a new project so I can import them in the correct order
> from the start I still did not manage to create the correct panorama. The
> preview shows everything correct (containing a lot of masked images). When
> I export the panorama however some of the masked images seem to be lost ie
> not used. Also the order of the image seems to be different from the order
> defined in the UI.
>
> Is it possible to preserve the intermediate tiff files the hugin produces
> so I can blend the tiff files myself? Even better, is it possible to have
> hugin output a script that I can run manually to see if I can create the
> panorama myself?
>
> Hugin version: 2011.0.1
> Mac OSX 10.6.8
>
> Darius
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Darius Blaszyk wrote:
>
> The sequence seems to be correct in the PTO file. I have also tried to
> reverse the image sequence in the GUI, but even that did not help. There
> must be some numbering order being used (according to original import
> sequence I presume). I'm afraid the only solution I see right now is to
> rename the files and import all the images again to correct the image stack
> sequence. I'm sure this is a bug in hugin, but I don't have enough
> knowledge of the internal workings to pinpoint the issue.
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Jan Martin wrote:
>
> Not sure if this works.
> You could open the .pto file with a text editor and check in what sequence
> the images are saved to it?
> Manually re-sorting it might help?
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Darius Blaszyk wrote:
>
>> The thing is though that the order in which the images are rendered is
>> not respected. Say I have two images, one with the background and one image
>> that has a person in it on the foreground. The images are stitched to each
>> other just fine, and I applied a mask over the person so that is only
>> rendered and pasted in the background image. Additionally I changed the
>> order of the images in the image tab. Now in the preview everything looks
>> fine. The background image is rendered first and on top of that is the
>> masked person shown. Now if I render the result image, the person is
>> rendered first and on top of that is the background image rendered. Iow the
>> stacking order is now different from the preview. I'm sure I missed a
>> setting or this is a bug in the source code. Is there a way to circumvent
>> this or as a  temp solution create a script of some sort where I can modify
>> the render order manually.
>>
>> Regards, Darius
>>
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2012, at 10:59 PM, Bruno Postle wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat 14-Jul-2012 at 14:13 +0200, Darius Blaszyk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've stitched a number of images together and used the mask tool to
>> mask certain regions out. Also I have reordered the order of images in the
>> "images" tab. Everything looks perfect in the image preview, but when I
>> export the panorama, the image order is not respected and the panorama
>> turns out differently. Is there some switch I need to set to make my
>> panorama the same as the preview?
>> >
>> > Stitching places a blending seam between photos, this seam isn't
>> visible in the preview because the position of the seam is determined
>> during the final blending step of stitching.
>> >
>> > So the preview is just an approximation of the final result, in
>> particular it shows photos overlapping completely rather than blended.
>> >
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Re: [hugin-ptx] image stack order

[Jan Martin]

To solve this it would be helpful to have your pto file and the source
images.
Can you zip and upload?


On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Darius Blaszyk wrote:

> The sequence seems to be correct in the PTO file. I have also tried to
> reverse the image sequence in the GUI, but even that did not help. There
> must be some numbering order being used (according to original import
> sequence I presume). I'm afraid the only solution I see right now is to
> rename the files and import all the images again to correct the image stack
> sequence. I'm sure this is a bug in hugin, but I don't have enough
> knowledge of the internal workings to pinpoint the issue.
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Jan Martin wrote:
>
> Not sure if this works.
> You could open the .pto file with a text editor and check in what sequence
> the images are saved to it?
> Manually re-sorting it might help?
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Darius Blaszyk wrote:
>
>> The thing is though that the order in which the images are rendered is
>> not respected. Say I have two images, one with the background and one image
>> that has a person in it on the foreground. The images are stitched to each
>> other just fine, and I applied a mask over the person so that is only
>> rendered and pasted in the background image. Additionally I changed the
>> order of the images in the image tab. Now in the preview everything looks
>> fine. The background image is rendered first and on top of that is the
>> masked person shown. Now if I render the result image, the person is
>> rendered first and on top of that is the background image rendered. Iow the
>> stacking order is now different from the preview. I'm sure I missed a
>> setting or this is a bug in the source code. Is there a way to circumvent
>> this or as a  temp solution create a script of some sort where I can modify
>> the render order manually.
>>
>> Regards, Darius
>>
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2012, at 10:59 PM, Bruno Postle wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat 14-Jul-2012 at 14:13 +0200, Darius Blaszyk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've stitched a number of images together and used the mask tool to
>> mask certain regions out. Also I have reordered the order of images in the
>> "images" tab. Everything looks perfect in the image preview, but when I
>> export the panorama, the image order is not respected and the panorama
>> turns out differently. Is there some switch I need to set to make my
>> panorama the same as the preview?
>> >
>> > Stitching places a blending seam between photos, this seam isn't
>> visible in the preview because the position of the seam is determined
>> during the final blending step of stitching.
>> >
>> > So the preview is just an approximation of the final result, in
>> particular it shows photos overlapping completely rather than blended.
>> >
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Re: [hugin-ptx] image stack order

[Jan Martin]

Not sure if this works.
You could open the .pto file with a text editor and check in what sequence
the images are saved to it?
Manually re-sorting it might help?


On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Darius Blaszyk wrote:

> The thing is though that the order in which the images are rendered is not
> respected. Say I have two images, one with the background and one image
> that has a person in it on the foreground. The images are stitched to each
> other just fine, and I applied a mask over the person so that is only
> rendered and pasted in the background image. Additionally I changed the
> order of the images in the image tab. Now in the preview everything looks
> fine. The background image is rendered first and on top of that is the
> masked person shown. Now if I render the result image, the person is
> rendered first and on top of that is the background image rendered. Iow the
> stacking order is now different from the preview. I'm sure I missed a
> setting or this is a bug in the source code. Is there a way to circumvent
> this or as a  temp solution create a script of some sort where I can modify
> the render order manually.
>
> Regards, Darius
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2012, at 10:59 PM, Bruno Postle wrote:
>
> > On Sat 14-Jul-2012 at 14:13 +0200, Darius Blaszyk wrote:
> >>
> >> I've stitched a number of images together and used the mask tool to
> mask certain regions out. Also I have reordered the order of images in the
> "images" tab. Everything looks perfect in the image preview, but when I
> export the panorama, the image order is not respected and the panorama
> turns out differently. Is there some switch I need to set to make my
> panorama the same as the preview?
> >
> > Stitching places a blending seam between photos, this seam isn't visible
> in the preview because the position of the seam is determined during the
> final blending step of stitching.
> >
> > So the preview is just an approximation of the final result, in
> particular it shows photos overlapping completely rather than blended.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] cannot align an image

[Jan Martin]

The idea is to 'undistort' the black plan by using the pink plan as a
template?

You did not account for your mobile phones optics.
Maybe the control points are to close together?

I placed the CPs as far off the middle as I could at 200% magnification at
the CP tab.
Then optimized and got the attached pto file.

How did you determine if the images are 'aligned perfectly'?

Jan



On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 5:33 PM, jose1711  wrote:

> hello,
>
> i am trying to mimick this workflow:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Balrog/Aerial_Imagery/Rectification 
> for
> single images of building plans taken with camera. however i quickly
> spotted i have troubles making fine alignment. therefore i did the
> following test: i made a screenshot of source image (pracovna plocha..png),
> then outlined a source image in josm a took a picture using my phone
> (blackberry 9780), then i loaded them in hugin and approached it as an
> almost-vertical aerial imagery. even if i am looking at the same picture
> (my monitor is flatscreen lcd iiyama prolite b1906s so no distortions
> should be happening) i cannot align them perfectly. could anyone please
> take a look and/or tell me what i am doing wrong?
>
> thank you,
>
> jose
>
> ps: source/project files at http://stuffz.l33t.in/cant_align.zip
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Funny project

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

it's time to put this into perspective before it gets out of hand.

What you see is a Japanese "Chindōgu", not a panoramic rig:

*Chindōgu* is the Japanese art of inventing ingenious everyday gadgets
that, on the face of it, seem like an ideal solution to a particular
problem. However, chindōgu has a distinctive feature: anyone actually
attempting to use one of these inventions would find that it causes so many
new problems, or such significant social embarrassment, that effectively it
has no utility whatsoever. Thus, chindōgu are sometimes described as
"unuseless" – that is, they cannot be regarded as 'useless' in an absolute
sense, since they do actually solve a problem; however, in practical terms,
they cannot positively be called "useful."

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chind%C5%8Dgu

More examples of Chindōgu:
http://www.nikibrown.com/designoblog/2009/11/01/funny-strang-japanese-inventions/

Jan



On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Emad ud din Bhatt  wrote:

> But how image will be stitched with this camera rig using Hugin ?  It will
> be hard to stitch due to parallax error. But one time effort to a
> successful stitch will be enough.Than just Point click and stitch with
> template :)
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, 31 May 2012 at 15:39:22 -0300, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho
>> (Cartola) wrote:
>> > http://www.instructables.com/id/360-analog-camera-hat/?ALLSTEPS
>>
>> Nice one.  Seems that it would be easier with old digital cameras,
>> though.
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Blending question

[Jan Martin]

Kim,

you are using multiblend, and wrapping is a known challenge.

Search the mailing list for multiblend for details on how to fix this by
running multiblend twice:
http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx

Or you can try to reduce blending levels by 1 or more:
 -l -1
to make the error go away.

Jan


On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:17 AM, ecs1749  wrote:

> Is there a way to handle this blending issue: The left end of my 360
> panorama picture created has an obvious different exposure level than the
> right hand side even though they are the same picture.  The optimization
> process assigns a different EV to the two ends.  As a result, as I rotate
> the .mov file, I ended up with an ugly transition as it goes through one
> side and rotate back from the other.  How should I handle this?
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Funny project

[Jan Martin]

That's nothing.

The Japanese did it decades ago:
http://pictureisunrelated.memebase.com/2010/10/21/wtf-photos-videos-camera-hat/

Jan

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Carl von Einem  wrote:

> hahaha, that's just great! Thanks for that link! :-)
>
> Carl
>
> Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) schrieb am 31.05.12 20:39:
>
>  
> http://www.instructables.com/**id/360-analog-camera-hat/?**ALLSTEPS
>>
>> Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
>> http://cartola.org/360
>> http://cartola.org/panoforum
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[hugin-ptx] Cartoon pano by Hösti

[Jan Martin]

Just found this pano by cartoonist Hösti:
http://www.hoesti.de/wimmelbild/index.html

Just funny.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

[Jan Martin]

Is it just me, or is there really no way to get the original images with
EXIF intact?
Also I do not want to download 100 images one by one.

Jan

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:48 PM, ecs1749  wrote:

> I set the number of CPU down to 1, still fails after 6 photos (4948 bit
> wide each).  If I reduce the resolution of each photo to 1600 (268kb file
> size each), I can load 140+ pictures no sweat.  At a resolution of  3200
> bits wide and I was able to load close to 100 photos before it fails.
>
> If anybody wants to try, the pictures are located at:
>
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/116295145477369704246/HuginTest?authkey=Gv1sRgCPeHl_-Wmci06QE
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:16:27 PM UTC-7, Steeve wrote:
>>
>> >>"An error happened while loading image :  caught exception: bad
>>  allocation"
>> Hasn't this problem already been discussed on this newsgroups?
>>
>> In summary on computers with multiple cores/processors images are
>> being loaded in parallel which consumes too much memory.. The error is
>> not coming from the memory which is currently being used, but from the
>> additional memory it wants to allocate.. You can find a better
>> explanation by search the newsgroup for "bad allocation"
>>
>> The workaround was to reduce the number of CPUs Hugin uses..
>>
>> In Hugin look at file->preferences-> number of CPUs. On my machine
>> this was set to 4 I had to reduce it to 1.
>>
>> With 4 I'd typically get this error after 10 images (I've got a
>> smaller camera sensor)
>> With 2 I'd still occassionally got this error
>> So I end up having to reduce this to 1.
>>
>> Regards
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 30, 5:01 am, ecs1749  wrote:
>> > For my case, this is the newly available 64 bit version of Hugin (w new
>> > GUI), running under Windows 7, 8G of real memory, plenty of disk space
>> for
>> > temp, and the max amount of memory used by Hugin appears to be less
>> than
>> > 1.5G.  The failure occurs with ramdon set of photos at widths of 4948
>> bits
>> > each.  Most cases I tried, the failure occurs after a handful of
>> pictures -
>> > around 4 to 5.  The error message simply says " "An error happened
>> while
>> > loading image :
>> >  caught exception: bad  allocation".   If I scale the pictures down to
>> 1087
>> > bits, there is no issue.  I can process over a hundred files no
>> problem.
>> >  What else info can I provide to help?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:53:12 PM UTC-7, Bart van Andel wrote:
>> >
>> > > It would help if you provide a *detailed* description of when things
>> go
>> > > wrong instead of just saying "Hugin crashes". Which version, which
>> OS, 32
>> > > or 64 bit, amount of RAM, *specific error message*, all of those may
>> > > matter. Moreover, giving incorrect information (which you did, I
>> guess not
>> > > purposefully but nonetheless) can steer your fellow group members in
>> the
>> > > wrong direction. Being precise can save everyone some time - and a
>> little
>> > > frustration. Please keep that in mind.
>> >
>> > > Also, I asked which program crashed a couple replies back. Please do
>> read
>> > > answers carefully when people are offering you a hand. We are all
>> > > volunteers here.
>> >
>> > > Could you try to see which image the cp generators are crashing on
>> > > exactly? If you find it, you may want to post it somewhere so we can
>> have a
>> > > look at it. Maybe one of your images is broken which may cause all
>> kinds of
>> > > unexpected behavior.
>> >
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>> >
>> > > On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:02:36 PM UTC+2, ecs1749 wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Yes, I have done both and still fails.  Incidentally, the failure is
>> not
>> > >> when loading the images.  It's when detecting control points.  I've
>> tried
>> > >> changing detectors and they all fail the same fashion (some sooner
>> than
>> > >> others).
>> >
>> > >> On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:09:06 AM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> On 27.05.2012 20:28, ecs1749 wrote:
>> > >>> > I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load
>> photos
>> > >>> > at full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos before
>> > >>> > running into the dreadful "An error happened while loading image
>> :
>> > >>> > caught exception: bad  allocation".  I have plenty of free memory
>> -
>> > >>> > according to the Task Manager.
>> >
>> > >>> Have you tried to increase the image cache memory setting in the
>> Hugin
>> > >>> Preferences dialog? Are you sure you have enough free disk space in
>> your
>> > >>> TEMP directory?
>> >
>> > >>> With kind regards
>> >
>> > >>> Stefan Peter
>> >
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>> > >>> practice there is.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Feature request: Bring image to top when Move/Drag

[Jan Martin]

The image alway shows what the output image will look like. (For speed
reasons it is not perfect.)
So if you move it  (or parts of it) it does affect the output image.

You can move the globe with the mouse. You need to grab beside the globe,
not the globe itself.
Moving the globe does not affect the output image.

We really need some screen video for hugin.

Jan

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:37 PM, ecs1749  wrote:

> I did read that section. It tells me what it does - not what it's for. "
> Using this tool you can recentre the panorama interactively ". So, do I do
> this to make it easier to view the globe, or does it actually affect the
> way the output image is created?
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:57:27 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:
> http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Fast_Preview_window#Move.2FDrag_tab
>
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM, ecs1749  wrote:
>
> I still don't know what good is the move/drag feature. It doesn't affect
> the control points at all. So, what do you use it for?
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:31:21 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> when moving an image in the Fast Panorama preview it is often hidden by
> the other images.
>
> I wonder if someone is willing to implement this:
> Have an automatic to bring the image grabbed with the mouse forward so one
> can place it more easily?
> Same when clicking an images number, so one can then grab it easily with
> the mouse.
>
> What do you think?
>
> P.S.:
> Also I still have not found a way to do "Move up / Move down" in the
> Photos tab with the new GUI?
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Feature request: Bring image to top when Move/Drag

[Jan Martin]

http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Fast_Preview_window#Move.2FDrag_tab

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM, ecs1749  wrote:

> I still don't know what good is the move/drag feature.  It doesn't affect
> the control  points at all.  So, what do you use it for?
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:31:21 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> when moving an image in the Fast Panorama preview it is often hidden by
>> the other images.
>>
>> I wonder if someone is willing to implement this:
>> Have an automatic to bring the image grabbed with the mouse forward so
>> one can place it more easily?
>> Same when clicking an images number, so one can then grab it easily with
>> the mouse.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> P.S.:
>> Also I still have not found a way to do "Move up / Move down" in the
>> Photos tab with the new GUI?
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[hugin-ptx] Feature request: Bring image to top when Move/Drag

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

when moving an image in the Fast Panorama preview it is often hidden by the
other images.

I wonder if someone is willing to implement this:
Have an automatic to bring the image grabbed with the mouse forward so one
can place it more easily?
Same when clicking an images number, so one can then grab it easily with
the mouse.

What do you think?

P.S.:
Also I still have not found a way to do "Move up / Move down" in the Photos
tab with the new GUI?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Introducing Pannellum - an HTML5 Panorama Viewer

[Jan Martin]

While we are at it listing interesting players, I like to remember
PTViewerNG by Prof. Dr. Dersch:

Working Player:
http://www.diy-streetview.com/webgl/PTViewerNG/index.html
His Website:
http://webuser.hs-furtwangen.de/~dersch/

Does anyone know what Mr. Dersch is up to right now pano-wise?
My communication attempts have all been unsuccessful.

What I really would like to see is adding support for multi-resolution
tiles.
I am hoping for a kind of drop-in replacement for the Google player.

Thanks,
Jan



On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) <
cartol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, didn't work here on a firefox 11 on windows XP. Got a black screen
> after clicking to load the panorama. No error messages.
>
> Some ideas would be implementing cube faces, maybe with multi-resolution
> and a way to detect HTML5 browsers and redirect to another place in case it
> doesn't support it. I have done like this in many panoramas with VR 5
> pano viewer . It detects iPad and iPhone
> and jumps to another link in negative cases, where I put a Salado Player.
>
> The VR5 pano viewer uses 2 cubes with 2 different resolutions, one with
> 1024 pixels size and another with 480.
>
> Tks,
>
> Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
> http://cartola.org/360
> http://cartola.org/panoforum
>
>
>
>
> 2012/5/29 Benjamin Schnieders 
>
>> Hi Matthew,
>>
>> great work! :) Linux, Ubuntu 64 and SeaMonkey (some kind of Firefox)
>> 2.9.1 - no problems.
>>
>> I wonder, however - how large may the panoramas become, before it gets
>> laggy (or browsers crash)? For example, I don't know a browser
>> displaying a half-a-gigapixel image directly, so that'd be at least one
>> limitation...
>>
>> Benjamin
>>
>> Matthew Petroff wrote:
>> > After a year of on and off development, Pannellum, a free and open
>> > source panorama viewer for the web, is ready for release. Built using
>> > HTML5, CSS3, JavaScript, and WebGL, it is plug-in free. The
>> > lightweight viewer, just 18kB gzipped, can be deployed using a single
>> > file and displays full equirectangular panoramas. One can easily embed
>> > panoramas in web pages as an , using code generated by the
>> > included configuration utility.
>> >
>> > For more information and an example, see:
>> > http://www.mpetroff.net/archives/2012/05/28/introducing-pannellum/
>> >
>> > Or the project page:
>> > https://bitbucket.org/mpetroff/pannellum/
>> >
>> > I've tested it across a range of browsers, but I'd appreciate any
>> > feedback or bug reports.
>> >
>> > -Matthew
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Introducing Pannellum - an HTML5 Panorama Viewer

[Jan Martin]

Works with
Firefox 12.0 and
Chromium 18.0.1025.151 (Developer Build 130497 Linux) Ubuntu 10.04

on Ubuntu 10.04, 64 bit.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Error: Could not execute command: cpfind -o ....

[Jan Martin]

Hi,

upon more testing I noticed that the error only happens  when these 4 files
are present:
http://bit.ly/KWuLMu

Removing the files everything works well.
Files are not mine, no idea whats wrong with em.

Jan


On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Jan Martin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> there is an error with cpfind with hugin:
> Could not execute command: cpfind -o /tmp/ap_resDmKtM1 /tmp/ap_inproj1oPKHT
>
> Error happens with both nightly hugin builds from the ppa:
> hugin 2011.5.0.ab9192a60c64
> Hugin's cpfind 2011.5.0.ab9192a60c64
>
> and the version I compiled following
> http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_ubuntu
> hugin 2011.5.0.aa82fe95d603
> Hugin's cpfind 2011.5.0.ab9192a60c64
>
> Notice cpfind is both the same version.
> *Is that right?
> *How to install an older version?*
> *
> I am on  Ubuntu 10.04, 64 bit with 16 GB RAM:
> uname -a
> Linux me-desktop 2.6.32-41-generic #89-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 27 22:18:56 UTC
> 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> There are 77 images.
> Is seems the size of the images has nothing to do with it.
> I reduced size by 90 % and it still happens
>
> Also deleting the last 10 images repeatedly does make no difference.
> However when just marking a low number like 10 images it works.
>
> What also does still work with all 77 images is the "Warped Overlay
> Analysis".
>
> Running
> cpfind -o /tmp/ap_resDmKtM1 /tmp/ap_inproj1oPKHT
> from the command line gives:
>
> cpfind -o /tmp/ap_resKjQpWP /tmp/ap_inprojPtTQ5SHugin's cpfind
> 2011.5.0.ab9192a60c64
> based on Pan-o-matic by Anael Orlinski
>
> Project contains the following images:
> Image 0
>   Imagefile: /home/me/DIY-streetview/Kim Cheung/DSC_0100.jpg
>   Remapped : no
> ...
> Image 72
>   Imagefile: /home/me/DIY-streetview/Kim Cheung/DSC_0177.jpg
>   Remapped : no
>
> --- Analyze Images ---
> i0 : Analyzing image...
> ...
> i70 : Analyzing image...
> Segmentation fault
>
> Any ideas or test you want me to run, please provide the exact command
> line command.
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>
>
>
>
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[hugin-ptx] Error: Could not execute command: cpfind -o ....

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

there is an error with cpfind with hugin:
Could not execute command: cpfind -o /tmp/ap_resDmKtM1 /tmp/ap_inproj1oPKHT

Error happens with both nightly hugin builds from the ppa:
hugin 2011.5.0.ab9192a60c64
Hugin's cpfind 2011.5.0.ab9192a60c64

and the version I compiled following
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_ubuntu
hugin 2011.5.0.aa82fe95d603
Hugin's cpfind 2011.5.0.ab9192a60c64

Notice cpfind is both the same version.
*Is that right?
*How to install an older version?*
*
I am on  Ubuntu 10.04, 64 bit with 16 GB RAM:
uname -a
Linux me-desktop 2.6.32-41-generic #89-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 27 22:18:56 UTC
2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

There are 77 images.
Is seems the size of the images has nothing to do with it.
I reduced size by 90 % and it still happens

Also deleting the last 10 images repeatedly does make no difference.
However when just marking a low number like 10 images it works.

What also does still work with all 77 images is the "Warped Overlay
Analysis".

Running
cpfind -o /tmp/ap_resDmKtM1 /tmp/ap_inproj1oPKHT
from the command line gives:

cpfind -o /tmp/ap_resKjQpWP /tmp/ap_inprojPtTQ5SHugin's cpfind
2011.5.0.ab9192a60c64
based on Pan-o-matic by Anael Orlinski

Project contains the following images:
Image 0
  Imagefile: /home/me/DIY-streetview/Kim Cheung/DSC_0100.jpg
  Remapped : no
...
Image 72
  Imagefile: /home/me/DIY-streetview/Kim Cheung/DSC_0177.jpg
  Remapped : no

--- Analyze Images ---
i0 : Analyzing image...
...
i70 : Analyzing image...
Segmentation fault

Any ideas or test you want me to run, please provide the exact command line
command.

Thanks,
Jan

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[hugin-ptx] GUI: Move up / Move down gone?

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

I am stuck on the Photo tab.
The Move up / Move down buttons are gone.
What are they replace by?

How can I move an image to the background or foreground now?
I tried right-click and "Change stack", but it seems that has not the
desired effect?

Also I wonder if sorting the table by clicking the columns name can be
implemented?

Thanks,
Jan

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[hugin-ptx] Suggestion: "Learn" tab for hugin

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

I 'd like to put this suggestion up for discussion:

Add a "Learn" tab to hugin.

There is no doubt that learning hugin can be a challenge.

Part of it is that creating a panorama means shooting first and then
processing images with hugin.
I think we loose a lot of new users with this two-step approach.

Beginners usually mess up their footage until they know better.
Messed up footage gives the impression hugin "does not work" or is very
hard to use to say the least.

This is while other panorama programs have something like a "fully
automatic mode" to give results quick.
hugin tries to follow this approach with the Assistant tab.

What the "Learn" tab should have:
A few screen videos explaining how to operate hugin to create
- a single row panorama.
- a multi-row panorama.
etc.

Links to download the images used with the videos.
Links to tutorial pages with screenshots and text from the videos to follow
step-by-step.

Last but not least we should explain how to shoot own footage properly.

What do you think?

Jan

P.S.:
There are tutorials at
http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/index.shtml
Suggested workflow is: First shoot, then stitch.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Move/Drag and Control Points

[Jan Martin]

No.


On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:59 PM, ecs1749  wrote:

> Does Move/Drag on the Hugin Fast Review window has any effect on Control
> Points?
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Re: Re: [hugin-ptx] GUI overhaul

[Jan Martin]

Thomas,

great work!

On the Optimizer Tab, the 'Image Orientation' and  'Lens Parameters' frames
are fixed size ca. 2:1.
I often have lots of data in the small 'Lens Parameters' frame and would
like to make it bigger for easy access.
Can we have a handle to resize?

Thanks,
Jan

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Harry van der Wolf wrote:

> Hi
>
> 2012/5/20 brian_ims 
>
>>
>> Thomas,
>>
>>
>> - images must be in correct order before cpfind generates points (could be
>> true of older versions not checked)
>>
>>
>
> I can confirm this but it has nothing to do with cpfind. It has to do with
> the photometric optimization.
> If you run everything manual from the edit panorama->photos tab like add
> images (in random order), run cpfind, do the optimization and then the
> photometric optimization you get an error that it can't find overlapping
> points.
>
> In the automatic assistant mode you don't get any results at all which
> makes it look like as if cpfind didn't work.
>
> Harry
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Source images and .pto file for benchmarking?

[Jan Martin]

Anyone willing to donate?

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Jan Martin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> could you please suggest where to find sets of original, unaltered,
> source-images and ready-to-use .pto files for a hugin benchmarking test I
> am creating?
> Maybe 2 or 3 different sets to cover the most typical cases?
>
> The test suite will run on Windows, Linux and Mac and will be available to
> the public.
> You will have the choice to publish your test results (your hardware and
> the time needed) anonymously or to keep it private.
> Also you can look up all other published test results.
>
> This should solve the "what hardware to purchase" question for all time.
>
> Whom wants to become famous?  :)
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>
>
>
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[hugin-ptx] Source images and .pto file for benchmarking?

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

could you please suggest where to find sets of original, unaltered,
source-images and ready-to-use .pto files for a hugin benchmarking test I
am creating?
Maybe 2 or 3 different sets to cover the most typical cases?

The test suite will run on Windows, Linux and Mac and will be available to
the public.
You will have the choice to publish your test results (your hardware and
the time needed) anonymously or to keep it private.
Also you can look up all other published test results.

This should solve the "what hardware to purchase" question for all time.

Whom wants to become famous?  :)

Thanks,
Jan

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[hugin-ptx] hugin not accepted for Google Summer of Code 2012?

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

hugin is not on the list of accepted projects?

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Uneven exposure in stiching

[Jan Martin]

hugin can handle HDR itself.
Also larger images (with better resolution) helps a lot.
Post your original images.


On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Syv Ritch  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a pano with 3 images. The images are Photomatix 4.1.4. I used
> because there are people walking and the lining up is nice and quick.
>
> The right side is dim and fuzzy:
>
> http://photos.foto-biz.com/Lightboxes/forums/i-Ttf3dLc/0/L/main-st-20120306-20th-L.jpg
>
> Here are the photos:
>
> http://photos.foto-biz.com/Lightboxes/forums/i-K8CpXZ4/0/L/main-st-20120306-L.jpg
>
> http://photos.foto-biz.com/Lightboxes/forums/i-DCbN2GS/0/L/main-st-20120306-L.jpg
>
> http://photos.foto-biz.com/Lightboxes/forums/i-N9ShVfC/0/L/main-st-20120306-L.jpg
>
> Here's the photoshop cs5 stitched:
>
> http://photos.foto-biz.com/Lightboxes/forums/i-pJ8NN5s/0/L/main-st-20120306-20th-L.jpg
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> How can I fix it in Hugin? 2011.4.0.cf9be9344356 Ubuntu Lucid 10.04, 8Gb
> RAM
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Create openbenchmarking.org Test Suite for hugin?

[Jan Martin]

Terry,

buying a new PC for panorama stitching is tricky.
Spend on the CPU, the video card or RAM? What will work at all with what
operating system?

A standardized hugin Test Suite would allow to test the performance of the
hardware we already have.
Within the hugin Test Suite we could have different Test Profiles for
different-sized source-images, with and without GPU stitching enabled.

Test results can be uploaded automatically and anonymously for everyone to
see and compare:
http://openbenchmarking.org
Good thing is results are available by Test Suite on the left hand side.
Have a look yourself for what's already available.

A  hugin Test Suite would allow to answer all kind of questions:
- Buy AMD or Intel?
- How to get the biggest bang for the buck?
- What video card works for nona -g (GPU flag) at all?
- What's the speed difference of stitching same project with and without
GPU flag set?
- Does a more expensive video card really make a difference? If so, how
much?

If someone wants to give an already existing Test it a try, the Phoronix
Test Suite is available for download here:
http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=downloads

Jan


On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Terry Duell  wrote:

> Hullo Jan,
>
>
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:57:39 +1100, Jan Martin <
> janmar...@diy-streetview.org> wrote:
>
>  I started a thread at the Phoronix Forum to gather some info on creating a
>> new Test Profile:
>> http://phoronix.com/forums/**showthread.php?68232-How-to-**
>> create-a-new-test<http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?68232-How-to-create-a-new-test>
>>
>> Some more info here:
>> http://www.phoronix-test-**suite.com/?k=documentation<http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=documentation>
>>
>
> This all looks interesting, but at this stage it is all new to me.
> I see Fedora have the PTS available on their repo for fc16, so that is a
> good start for me.
> I have skimmed through the web site and the docs trying to get a feel for
> it all, but there isn't much that is sinking in just yet.
> For the uninitiated, could you please summarise what sort of tests you
> would expect to do with hugin, and what you would be hoping to find?
> That might help some of us to get a feel for this business.
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Create openbenchmarking.org Test Suite for hugin?

[Jan Martin]

Hi Terry,
all,

the proposed hugin Test Suite for Phoronix solves a totally different
challenge:
Not to make sure hugin works, but to identify hardware it works with.

So one can purchase hardware (e.g. video card) that is known to work.
And makes sense. (more RAM vs. more expensive video card)
Delivering known performance for the price.

Actually I would like to suggest to add an option to hugin to automatically
ask the user to run the Phoronix Test Suite to collect data anonymously
about hardware performance.

Jan



On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Terry Duell  wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:04:58 +1100, Terry Duell 
> wrote:
>
>
>  For the uninitiated, could you please summarise what sort of tests you
>> would expect to do with hugin, and what you would be hoping to find?
>> That might help some of us to get a feel for this business.
>>
>
> Just a little elaboration/clarification on my request for more info.
> Most of what I read about the Phoronix-Test-Suite, gives me the impression
> that it is aimed more at benchmarking than other forms of testing.
> At the moment I don't see much need for benchmarking.
> I do a lot of testing on hugin, and it is all aimed at testing
> functionality, i.e. do any problems occur; can they be reproduced; are
> there ways of working around them; how can one recover from the problem.
> All of this is done via hugin's user interface. It isn't clear to me how
> such testing could be readily adapted to a software test-suite built on
> scripts.
>
>
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[hugin-ptx] java coder wanted to add option to DeepZoomTiler.jar

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

I am looking for a java coder to add an option to DeepZoomTiler.jar:

-zoomlevels 12,11,10,9
to generate only the zoom levels one really wants. In this case: 12,11,10
and 9.
Without it behavior should remain unchanged.

Right now all zoomlevels are created all the time.
And I delete later. A waste of resources.

Any one interested in this?

DeepZoomTiler.jar source is here:
https://github.com/mstandio/SaladoConverter/tree/master/DeepZoomTiler

Thanks,
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Create openbenchmarking.org Test Suite for hugin?

[Jan Martin]

I started a thread at the Phoronix Forum to gather some info on creating a
new Test Profile:
http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?68232-How-to-create-a-new-test

Some more info here:
http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=documentation

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[hugin-ptx] Create openbenchmarking.org Test Suite for hugin?

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

when looking for hardware that might work for nona GPU stitching I noticed
that benchmarking for Hugin is in a real sorry state:
http://wiki.panotools.org/Nona_GPU_stitching_reports

However there is a free Test Suite available that could change that easily:
Phoronix Test Suite available from http://www.phoronix.com and
http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com
It runs on many operating systems including Windows, Linux and MAC.

The Test Suites to run are downloaded automatically from
http://openbenchmarking.org

Creating an empty framework for a new Test Suite is quite simple:
phoronix-test-suite build-suite
'All' we would have to do is add hugin and .pto file and source images to
process.

After installation of the Phoronix Test Suite one can look here for
inspiration:
/home/username/.phoronix-test-suite/installed-tests/pts (on Linux)

We could have a hugin Test Suite with different Test Profiles covering e.g
GPU stitching, CPU stitching and different numbers of source image and
sizes.

Can I interest anyone in creating the hugin Test Suite?

Thanks,
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?

[Jan Martin]

It uses max. 4 GB of RAM.

It runs 6 times in parallel on a six core machine.
According to the gnome-system-monitor all 6 cores are at 100% nearly all
the time.

Jan



On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Chris Erskine wrote:

> how much ram is it using?
>
> and have you tried running muiltiple renders on your 6 core amd?
>
> my first thought is your transfer speed may become a bottleneck.
>
> my thought would be to get an intel 2600 enough ram to cover 8 jobs at
> once and an ssd that good at multitreaded read.
>
> though it may run faster to disable hyperthreading and just run 4 jobs at
> once.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Tim Nugent  wrote:
>
>> Have a look at Xbox (and maybe PS3 - not sure if these still let you run
>> Linux) clusters. Lots of people are going to be building clusters using
>> Raspberry Pi's when they go on sale hopefully later this month (700Mhz
>> ARM/Linux machines for ~$25). Whether or not you get the performance you're
>> after, it'd be a fun project putting something like that together. I have
>> quite a lot of experience with Sun Grid Engine on very large/expensive
>> compute clusters and Hugin jobs run fine.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 12 January 2012 14:49, Jan Martin wrote:
>>
>>> It is time to reveal a few more facts to allow for better judgment.
>>>
>>> Each image set is 13.2 MB per panorama only.
>>> Stitching, blending, cubing and tiling needs 8.5 seconds altogether on a
>>> 6 core AMD PC for USD 750.
>>>
>>> What I am looking for is to build a cluster from many cheap boards and
>>> CPUs, that provides a "better performance per Dollar".
>>> Not a "fast PC on a budget".
>>>
>>> Something like "10 boards of 150 USD each" that provide 6 times the
>>> performance, bust just cost twice.
>>>
>>> Is there really nobody whom runs a rendering farm?
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?

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It is time to reveal a few more facts to allow for better judgment.

Each image set is 13.2 MB per panorama only.
Stitching, blending, cubing and tiling needs 8.5 seconds altogether on a 6
core AMD PC for USD 750.

What I am looking for is to build a cluster from many cheap boards and
CPUs, that provides a "better performance per Dollar".
Not a "fast PC on a budget".

Something like "10 boards of 150 USD each" that provide 6 times the
performance, bust just cost twice.

Is there really nobody whom runs a rendering farm?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?

[Jan Martin]

Amazon cloud indeed would be nice.
Only the upload is way to slow. We are talking gigabytes.

Jan

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> Amazon EC2
>
> The electricity bill for any hardware that you own yourself will cost more
> than EC2.
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[hugin-ptx] Hardware: Cost efficient cluster for stitching?

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

I am looking for suggestions to build a cost-effective Linux cluster for
stitching, blending and tiling.
Data is 6 images of ca. 2.2 MB per pano. I have a real lot of them.

Lots of relatively cheap comodity hardware should deliver best bang for the
buck.

Suggestions for hardware design please?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: multiblend - a faster alternative to Enblend (Windows only)

[Jan Martin]

Kay,

why on earth would one want to use the Windows version of multiblend with
hugin on Linux?
David updated his website, the Linux source is available since this weekend:
http://horman.net/multiblend

Just do
g++  -msse2 -O2 multiblend.cpp -ltiff -ltiffxx -o multiblend

Then as root copy the new multiblend file to e.g. /usr/local/bin
Set up Hugin to use it. Thats all.

David found out that by reducing blending levels by one using  -l -1
the seam at the 0-360 boundary vanishes.
Anyone to test -l -1 with your images?

Keeping in mind that multiblend has been published just a week ago, I am
happy to have a very fast alternative to enblend that works well for my
specific usage case.

The rest will come with time,

Jan

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: multiblend - a faster alternative to Enblend (Windows only)

[Jan Martin]

This might be obvious to coders, but I am stuck nevertheless.

Ubuntu 10.04.3 running on AMD Phenom II x6, 16GB RAM:

me@me-desktop:~/multiblend$ g++  -msse2 -O2 multiblend.cpp -ltiff -ltiffxx
me@me-desktop:~/multiblend$

It seems nothing happens?
What to expect?
How to fix?

Thanks,
Jan


On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Erik Krause  wrote:

> Am 31.12.2011 19:54, schrieb Harry van der Wolf:
>
>
>  You know it: users always ask for more:)
>>
>
> That's true! What I would very much like to see in multiblend is a seam
> optimization like in smartblend. This would make multiblend a real killer!
> Unfortunately the smartblend algorithm isn't known. There are only some
> hints, f.e in
> http://groups.google.com/**group/hugin-ptx/msg/**1ff668e2a06a38b1
>
> Another idea would be a faster replacement for enfuse...
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Re: [hugin-ptx] multiblend - a faster alternative to Enblend (Windows only)

[Jan Martin]

Looks interesting.
Any chance for a Linux version?


On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Monkey  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've developed an alternative to Enblend which I hope might find some
> interested users here. It's not a better blender, and it lacks many of
> Enblend's features, but it has two redeeming qualities - the first is
> a 64-bit version, which means it can use more memory, and the second
> is that it is much faster. In testing on a 560 megapixel 7x7 mosaic,
> it was 172x faster than Enblend (at least; Enblend ran out of memory
> before it could finish).
>
> It should work straight out of the box as Hugin's "alternative Enblend
> program". There is some more information about how it works and its
> (very few) options at http://horman.net/multiblend/
>
> Download: http://horman.net/multiblend/multiblend0.1.zip (Windows
> only)
>
> I'd appreciate any feedback, especially bug reports.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Errors in preview window

[Jan Martin]

This is because it is a very fast preview window.
Certain sacrifices are made for speed.



On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Can-C. Dörtbudak <
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> Hi Guys,
>
> i have a little problem. When i'm stitching pictures and have a look
> in the GL Preview window there are a lot of errors in the stitched
> pictures. But in the finished picture they are gone. How is this
> possible?
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[hugin-ptx] Novelty image stabilization video

[Jan Martin]

http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/11/11/funny-pictures-eyes-on-the-prize-cat/

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: nasty enblend error

[Jan Martin]

I can confirm, that
--primary-seam-generator=nearest-feature-transform
solves this.

It's the new blending algorithm causing this error.

Jan

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:19 PM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 18 Sep., 11:18, Jan Martin  wrote:
> > This error:
> >
> > http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/enblend_error...
>
> now I see what you mean. Have you tried if it maybe has something to
> do with the new blending algorithm? You can switch back to the old
> algorithm by adding this parameter to your enblend CL:
>
> --primary-seam-generator=nearest-feature-transform
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: nasty enblend error

[Jan Martin]

This error:

http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/enblend_error_marked.jpg

There is no nadir image at all.
There are no masks.
Changing image order does not help.
--fine-mask does not help.

Jan



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>
>
> On 18 Sep., 10:41, Jan Martin  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I got a new PC (AMD Phenom II x6, 16 GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 TI,
> > Ubuntu 10.04.3), so I followedhttp://
> wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Ubuntuto the letter to build
> > enblend with GPU compiled in.
> >
> > While the installed enblend 4.0-753b534c819d does OK, but has no GPU
> > support,
> > my compiled enblend 4.1-48edb6264ad8 creates the following blending
> error.
> > ...
>
> what error do you mean? I suppose it might be you're missing the nadir
> image? Probably the same bug I've been complaining about recently. Try
> removing masks, changing image order, or stitching with --fine-mask -
> or revert to an older version and put up with the lack of new
> features.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] How to prevent nona from opening windows with -g for GPU?

[Jan Martin]

Just tried

MetaCity window-matching utility
http://burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie/

with
gdevilspie
http://code.google.com/p/gdevilspie/

graphical editor.

Unfortunately while it moves the nona windows to another workspace, it only
does so AFTER they pop up.
Still a lot of annoying flickering. Just faster.

Jan
<http://code.google.com/p/gdevilspie/>

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> Hi Benjamin,
>
> for me it is Ubuntu 10.04.3 with Metacity.
>
> Just tried to put the Terminal window that runs nona on another workspace.
> Doesn't work unfortunately.
>
> Then I tried the Terminal WIndow on the default workspace and all other
> program at workspace one.
> Doesn't work too.
>
> The nona windows pop up either way.
>
> Limiting the nona windows to a workspace would help a lot.
> Any idea how to do that?
>
> Jan
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Benjamin Schnieders <
> benjamin.schnied...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jan Martin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> when using "nona -g" for GPU support, nona opens an empty window per
>>> source image.
>>>
>>> Is there any way to stop this?
>>> It just flickers, and the focus changes to those windows and the PC
>>> becomes unusable.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jan
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>>
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> which OS are you using? On Ubuntu (should be the same for all Linux
>> distributions using Gnome with Compiz), I added window rules in CompizConfig
>> like "No focus" => "title=^nona$" - makes the nona window unfocusable. Add
>> some more and the window won't annoy you any more. Of course, this wont help
>> for any other OS...
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] How to prevent nona from opening windows with -g for GPU?

[Jan Martin]

Hi Benjamin,

for me it is Ubuntu 10.04.3 with Metacity.

Just tried to put the Terminal window that runs nona on another workspace.
Doesn't work unfortunately.

Then I tried the Terminal WIndow on the default workspace and all other
program at workspace one.
Doesn't work too.

The nona windows pop up either way.

Limiting the nona windows to a workspace would help a lot.
Any idea how to do that?

Jan



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> Jan Martin wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> when using "nona -g" for GPU support, nona opens an empty window per
>> source image.
>>
>> Is there any way to stop this?
>> It just flickers, and the focus changes to those windows and the PC
>> becomes unusable.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jan
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>>
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> which OS are you using? On Ubuntu (should be the same for all Linux
> distributions using Gnome with Compiz), I added window rules in CompizConfig
> like "No focus" => "title=^nona$" - makes the nona window unfocusable. Add
> some more and the window won't annoy you any more. Of course, this wont help
> for any other OS...
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: nona -m JPEG ..... failing?

[Jan Martin]

Removing all lines that have the word "Enblend" or "Exiftool" from the .
pto.mk file stops the make right after nona.
I then stack the .tif images with ImageMagick.

Does anyone know if there is a way for a custom make file that will have
nona generating a single JPEG image?

Jan


On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jan Martin wrote:

> Kay,
>
> you beat me to it.
>
> This works for me:
> nona -g -o /tmp/nona/000100 /home/me/000100.pto
> with this in the template:
> p f2 w7500 h3750 v360  k1 E4.2848 R0 n"JPEG q90"
>
> Now the next step:
> Involve make via pto2mk.
>
> pto2mk -o /tmp/nona/000100.pto.mk -p /tmp/nona/000100 /home/me/000100.pto
> && \
> make -j 6 -f /tmp/nona/000100.pto.mk NONA='nona -g -t 1'
>
> Using the exact same template, n"JPEG q90" is not honored.
> Enblend is involved for blending. And it skips 2 images.
>
> (Screenshot of the 75 MB .tif file):
>
> http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/Screenshot-000100.tif.png
>
> Output of nona:
> http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/nona.txt
>
> Output of make:
> http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/make.txt
>
> Why this all?
> For a special project I need speed and it is OK to skip blending.
>
> Nona is marked red:
> Running nona without make results in a single thread only. (top)
> Running nona via make will run nona 6 times, each single threaded. (bottom)
>
> http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/nona_1_thread_vs_6_cores.png
>
> If only the time consuming blending wouldn't be.
>
> What I am looking for is this (simulated using GIMP):
> http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/000100_gimp.jpg
>
> I am making the .pto file and the source images available for testing:
> http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/000100.zip
>
> Versions used:
> nona version Pre-Release 2011.3.0.e7bbec04b4c6
> enblend 4.1-48edb6264ad8
> pto2mk version Pre-Release 2011.3.0.e7bbec04b4c6
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 17 Sep., 10:47, Jan Martin  wrote:
>> > I am trying. No luck so far.
>> >
>> > I am hoping someone can tell if this ever worked for him and if so, how?
>> >
>> > Jan
>>
>> I tried here and it worked. I made a pto file 'xx.pto' with hugin,
>> changed the p-line in it from
>>
>> p f2 w3000 h1294 v51  E0 R0 S1196,1837,506,800 n"TIFF_m c:NONE r:CROP"
>>
>> to
>>
>> p f2 w3000 h1294 v51  E0 R0 S1196,1837,506,800 n"JPEG" m g1 i0 f0 m2
>> p0.00784314
>>
>> (so, I changed the output file type specification to JPEG)
>>
>> and then I ran
>>
>> nona -o xx xx.pto
>>
>> and received an output file xx.jpg, created by the primitive stitching
>> that nona does (seams equidistant from margins, no feathering) - I
>> think maybe the feathering can be asked for somewhere.
>>
>> Kay
>>
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[hugin-ptx] How to prevent nona from opening windows with -g for GPU?

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

when using "nona -g" for GPU support, nona opens an empty window per source
image.

Is there any way to stop this?
It just flickers, and the focus changes to those windows and the PC becomes
unusable.

Thanks,
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: nona -m JPEG ..... failing?

[Jan Martin]

Kay,

you beat me to it.

This works for me:
nona -g -o /tmp/nona/000100 /home/me/000100.pto
with this in the template:
p f2 w7500 h3750 v360  k1 E4.2848 R0 n"JPEG q90"

Now the next step:
Involve make via pto2mk.

pto2mk -o /tmp/nona/000100.pto.mk -p /tmp/nona/000100 /home/me/000100.pto &&
\
make -j 6 -f /tmp/nona/000100.pto.mk NONA='nona -g -t 1'

Using the exact same template, n"JPEG q90" is not honored.
Enblend is involved for blending. And it skips 2 images.

(Screenshot of the 75 MB .tif file):
http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/Screenshot-000100.tif.png

Output of nona:
http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/nona.txt

Output of make:
http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/make.txt

Why this all?
For a special project I need speed and it is OK to skip blending.

Nona is marked red:
Running nona without make results in a single thread only. (top)
Running nona via make will run nona 6 times, each single threaded. (bottom)
http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/nona_1_thread_vs_6_cores.png

If only the time consuming blending wouldn't be.

What I am looking for is this (simulated using GIMP):
http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/000100_gimp.jpg

I am making the .pto file and the source images available for testing:
http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110917/000100.zip

Versions used:
nona version Pre-Release 2011.3.0.e7bbec04b4c6
enblend 4.1-48edb6264ad8
pto2mk version Pre-Release 2011.3.0.e7bbec04b4c6

Thanks,
Jan





On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 17 Sep., 10:47, Jan Martin  wrote:
> > I am trying. No luck so far.
> >
> > I am hoping someone can tell if this ever worked for him and if so, how?
> >
> > Jan
>
> I tried here and it worked. I made a pto file 'xx.pto' with hugin,
> changed the p-line in it from
>
> p f2 w3000 h1294 v51  E0 R0 S1196,1837,506,800 n"TIFF_m c:NONE r:CROP"
>
> to
>
> p f2 w3000 h1294 v51  E0 R0 S1196,1837,506,800 n"JPEG" m g1 i0 f0 m2
> p0.00784314
>
> (so, I changed the output file type specification to JPEG)
>
> and then I ran
>
> nona -o xx xx.pto
>
> and received an output file xx.jpg, created by the primitive stitching
> that nona does (seams equidistant from margins, no feathering) - I
> think maybe the feathering can be asked for somewhere.
>
> Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: nona -m JPEG ..... failing?

[Jan Martin]

I am trying. No luck so far.

I am hoping someone can tell if this ever worked for him and if so, how?

Jan

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:39 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 17 Sep., 10:13, Jan Martin  wrote:
> > *man nona*
> >
> > DESCRIPTION
> >nona uses the transform function from PanoTools, the stitching
> itself
> >is quite simple, no seam feathering is done.
> >
> >Only the non-antialiasing interpolators of PanoTools are
> supported.
> >
> >The following *output formats* (n option of PanoTools p script
> line)
> > are supported:
> >
> >*JPEG, TIFF, PNG*  : Single image formats without feathered
> blending
> >TIFF_m  : multiple tiff files
> >TIFF_multilayer : Multilayer tiff files, readable by The Gimp 2.0
> >
> > I understand that nona can stitch to JPEG, TIFF and PNG all by itself,
> > without time consuming blending by enblend.
> >
> > Right?
>
> Well that's the question. I looked at the manual: It says it can
> produce JPEG output, but it doesn't say you can specify it with the -m
> parameter. You insist on feeding the option with the -m parameter, but
> this just doesn't seem to work. How about you try and specify the
> output you desire in the project file? The example script suggests you
> need something in the p-line (and the man page says so as well):
>
> # 'p'-line options
> ...
> # nPICTPanorama file format, one of:
> ...
> #  JPEG  Panoramic image in jpeg-format. Use
> with f1
>
> Give it a shot. It may work. It may not work. The documentation is
> sadly inadequate, just as the formal description of pto format is
> missing. If you find out how to make nona to do what you'd like it to
> do, you can add your discovery to the meagre body of documentation ;-)
>
> Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: nona -m JPEG ..... failing?

[Jan Martin]

*man nona*

DESCRIPTION
   nona uses the transform function from PanoTools, the stitching itself
   is quite simple, no seam feathering is done.

   Only the non-antialiasing interpolators of PanoTools are supported.

   The following *output formats* (n option of PanoTools p script line)
are supported:

   *JPEG, TIFF, PNG*  : Single image formats without feathered blending
   TIFF_m  : multiple tiff files
   TIFF_multilayer : Multilayer tiff files, readable by The Gimp 2.0


I understand that nona can stitch to JPEG, TIFF and PNG all by itself,
without time consuming blending by enblend.

Right?

Jan

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:02 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 17 Sep., 07:18, Jan Martin  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > according to "man nona" this should work:
> >
> > nona -m JPEG -o /out /00.pto
> >
> > but all I get is:
> > Error: unknown output format: JPEG
> > Same with JPG anf PNG
>
> Where do you get the idea -m JPEG should work? If I run man nona or
> nona --help, it tells me
>
> -m str
>   Set output file format (TIFF, TIFF_m, TIFF_multilayer, EXR,
> EXR_m)
>
> (that's with Pre-Release 2011.3.0.4826832f8d18)
>
> Kay
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[hugin-ptx] nona -m JPEG ..... failing?

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

according to "man nona" this should work:

nona -m JPEG -o /out /00.pto

but all I get is:
Error: unknown output format: JPEG
Same with JPG anf PNG

with
nona -m TIFF -o /out 00.pto
2 out of 5 source images are missing in the resulting pano.

But the template works well with nona and enblend with nona generating TIFF
files and enblend blending to a .jpg.

tested with
nona version 2011.0.0.0f9fdaf56720
nona version Pre-Release 2011.3.0.e7bbec04b4c6

Ideas please?
Whats missing?

Thanks,
Jan

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: compiling hugin fails with ..... GLViewer.cpp.o Error 1

[Jan Martin]

found it:

hg update -r 5557



On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jan Martin wrote:

> how to get rev 5557?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:59 PM, cri  wrote:
>
>> I get the same error. Rev 5557 builds fine.
>>
>> On 16 Set, 15:38, Jan Martin  wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I got a new PC and try to compile hugin, followinghttp://
>> wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Ubuntu
>> >
>> > but it fails.
>> >
>> > Any idea what might be missing and how to check and solve this?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Jan
>> >
>> > [ 62%] Building CXX object
>> > src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/GLViewer.cpp.o
>> > /home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp: In member
>> > function ‘void GLViewer::SetUpContext()’:
>> > /home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:150: error:
>> > expected unqualified-id before numeric constant
>> > /home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:150: error:
>> > expected ‘;’ before numeric constant
>> > /home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:161: error:
>> > expected unqualified-id before numeric constant
>> > /home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:161: error:
>> > expected ‘;’ before numeric constant
>> > make[2]: *** [src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/GLViewer.cpp.o]
>> Error 1
>> > make[1]: *** [src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/all] Error 2
>> > make: *** [all] Error 2
>> >
>> > Details:
>> > nona version 2011.0.0.0f9fdaf56720
>> > Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 TI
>> > driver: version 4.1.0 NVIDIA 280.13
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: compiling hugin fails with ..... GLViewer.cpp.o Error 1

[Jan Martin]

how to get rev 5557?


On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:59 PM, cri  wrote:

> I get the same error. Rev 5557 builds fine.
>
> On 16 Set, 15:38, Jan Martin  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I got a new PC and try to compile hugin, followinghttp://
> wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Ubuntu
> >
> > but it fails.
> >
> > Any idea what might be missing and how to check and solve this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > [ 62%] Building CXX object
> > src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/GLViewer.cpp.o
> > /home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp: In member
> > function ‘void GLViewer::SetUpContext()’:
> > /home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:150: error:
> > expected unqualified-id before numeric constant
> > /home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:150: error:
> > expected ‘;’ before numeric constant
> > /home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:161: error:
> > expected unqualified-id before numeric constant
> > /home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:161: error:
> > expected ‘;’ before numeric constant
> > make[2]: *** [src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/GLViewer.cpp.o] Error
> 1
> > make[1]: *** [src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/all] Error 2
> > make: *** [all] Error 2
> >
> > Details:
> > nona version 2011.0.0.0f9fdaf56720
> > Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 TI
> > driver: version 4.1.0 NVIDIA 280.13
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[hugin-ptx] compiling hugin fails with ..... GLViewer.cpp.o Error 1

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

I got a new PC and try to compile hugin, following
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Ubuntu

but it fails.

Any idea what might be missing and how to check and solve this?

Thanks,

Jan

[ 62%] Building CXX object
src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/GLViewer.cpp.o
/home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp: In member
function ‘void GLViewer::SetUpContext()’:
/home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:150: error:
expected unqualified-id before numeric constant
/home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:150: error:
expected ‘;’ before numeric constant
/home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:161: error:
expected unqualified-id before numeric constant
/home/me/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/hugin/GLViewer.cpp:161: error:
expected ‘;’ before numeric constant
make[2]: *** [src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/GLViewer.cpp.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2


Details:
nona version 2011.0.0.0f9fdaf56720
Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 TI
driver: version 4.1.0 NVIDIA 280.13

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[hugin-ptx] Very cool application of parallax error

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

check it out:

http://gizmodo.com/5839386/this-machine-lets-anyone-draw-in-perfect-perspective

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Output format files : import in Photoshop

[Jan Martin]

.pto is just the hugin project file and contains text only.
You could open it with any text editor.

For images you need to click the "Stitch!" button on the Stitcher tab.



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> Hello,
> I have generated a test panorama that I have saved under the "pto"
> format.
> This "pto" format  is not recognized by Photoshop.
> How can I solve this problem ?
> Thank you with anticipation.
> JMP
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[hugin-ptx] Feature Request: Save Redo/Undo list for replay.

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

in hugin there are the Redo/Undo buttons that work with a kind of "action
list".

I would like to suggest to add a feature to save the "action list".
Then have a button to load that list and replay it step-by-step.
Including switching tabs.

This would be a great tool to teach how to do things, and also help to
remember how one actually build that one really great .pto file. Not just
have the finished .pto file.

What do you think?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: two fisheye in one image

[Jan Martin]

For overview on fisheye lenses see:
http://panopticus.altervista.org/fishlist/fishlist.htm


On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:59 PM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 10 Jun., 14:50, Jan Martin  wrote:
>
> > What is it good for to have 2 lenses if you have to turn the camera
> anyway?
>
> Seems pointless indeed.
> And using two separate lenses, you have parallactic errors. It works
> if there's nothing nearby, but otherwise it gets messy. The example is
> indoors; parallax is definitely an issue.
>
> > What's clearly missing is 5 to 10 degrees more overlap.
>
> The images looked like the overlap might be just about enough, but the
> stitch wouldn't come out nice, and I think it might be because of the
> parallax between the two lenses.
>
> Are there fisheyes with more than 180 degrees fov?
>
> Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: two fisheye in one image

[Jan Martin]

Well,

the main feature of the original Spherecam was to take the two images needed
at once?

What is it good for to have 2 lenses if you have to turn the camera anyway?
What's clearly missing is 5 to 10 degrees more overlap.

Jan

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:22 PM, tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au <
tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> On Jun 10, 6:37 pm, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On 10 Jun., 09:52, Tom Sparks  wrote:
> >
> > > Can hugin support two fisheyes in one image?
> >
> > > here is a sample imagehttp://
> www.lightningridgecommunity.com/panorama/elphelimg_2421643.jpeg
> >
> > I tried it and - yes, it can. But you're really pushing it. As your
> > images are just about over 180 degrees, there is virtually no overlap
> > and the automatic CPGs fail - I hardly found CPs manually. Also, the
> > edges of the images are already shaded by the lense's rim and the
> > seams will be visible. I recommend you do three shots at least.
>
> When I start taking photo I'll be rotating the camera 90 degrees
> between the next step of photos
>
> >
> > Btw - wasn't there a possibility somewhere to apply circular masks -
> > or a circular cropping - to circular fisheye shots?
> >
> > Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: two fisheye in one image

[Jan Martin]

On the "Crop" tab.
You need to untick "Always center Crop on d,e" first.


On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:22 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 10 Jun., 10:55, Carl von Einem  wrote:
>
> > I selected 'circular fisheye' and preset it to 200 deg. for a start. In
> > the 'crop' tab I set a crop circle for the upper image circle
>
> I don't seem to have that 'crop circle' option. Where is it?
>
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[hugin-ptx] Canon 7D and Sigma 8mm/3.5 owner wanted

[Jan Martin]

Hi,

do you have a

Canon 7D and
Sigma 8mm/3.5

and can do a few test shots?

Please contact me off-list for details:
janmartin AT diy-streetview DOT org

Thanks,
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin slow with many images

[Jan Martin]

I guess the slow down is from Control Point Finders testing every image
against every other image. Seems even brand new "Hugins CPFind" does things
this way?

I never understood why one cannot have a way to tell hugin that there are

x images around
y images up, y1 degrees
z images down, z 1 degrees

(Or extract this info from yaw, pitch and roll values from the "Images" tab
and "degrees of view" from "Camera and Lens" tab.)

This gives a very precise idea of where image pairs overlap to place CPs in
that overlap only, and which images to compare with each other:

Example: 4 around, 1 up:
0 > 1 > 2 > *3 > 0*
0 > 4
1 > 4
2 > 4
3 > 4

A few sensible defaults to pick from should speed things up significantly.

Jan

Please tell when I am totally wrong.



On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:56 PM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 26 Mai, 21:04, gridrix  wrote:
> > Are there any devs in this ML?
> >
> > I really like hugin but it seems to scale very bad with many images.
> > Any comments? It looks like something that was done not very scalable
> > because it was good enough, but it does create problems with very many
> > images.
>
> Be a bit more specific about which parts you feel are particularly
> slow. And it may help in the analysis to identify if it's hugin per se
> or one of the programs/libraries it uses for various tasks that's
> slowing things down. I suppose, though, that you actually mean hugin
> itself.
>
> Many images usually slow things down if every image is somehow put in
> relation to every other image. Then processing time may rise
> quadratically. You can't avoid a certain slowdown with increase in
> image numbers if the images are somehow put in relation - N is usually
> too optimistic and N log N is probably quite good already - depending
> on which partial problem you're looking at. Add to that slowdown from
> a larger memory footprint.
>
> But when it comes to a GUI, of course simple techniques can produce
> slowdowns which grow out of proportion with large amounts of images,
> and even N is not acceptable. Your initial complaint about disabling
> single images in the preview would fit in here - it shouldn't really
> matter how many images are there if you switch a specific one on or
> off. Slowdowns here might point to programming behaviour like 'an
> image has been removed - look at all other images and see if the
> removed image overlapped with them (by looking at all points in both
> images to see if any are in the same place) - if so do something'
> instead of, say, 'look up the images that overlap from a precalculated
> overlap database and take it from there'.
>
> I suspect there are skeletons of this kind in hugin's cupboard. Your
> profiling seems to point that way as well. I think one reason for
> stuff like this happening is that internally a lot of stuff is done
> with arrays and indices (like, old C-style arrays) which scales badly.
> A lot of stuff going on is probably done by some ancient bit of C code
> in a library somewhere, which was written when noone thought of the
> scales we're working at now, and without the STL for containers. And
> the whole show started out as a GUI for a bunch of other programs
> doing the 'real' work, not as an image-processing software per se.
>
> In the end you have several choices in the matter. Work your way
> around the deficiencies you can't accept, ask for improvements in
> specific places or become involved and fix it for yourself - and
> hopefully for everyone else as well.
>
> Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] 4 GoPro camera street view need help

[Jan Martin]

Carlos,

I am using stereodatamaker (which is based on CHDK) already with my other
rig:

http://www.diy-streetview.org/how-to-shooting-streetviews/
http://www.diy-streetview.org/2010/06/24/panoramic-video
http://www.diy-streetview.org/2010/07/28/new-streetview-rig

Now I am looking for the same functionality for the GoPro HD cameras.

Jan



On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) <
cartol...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2011/5/24 Jan Martin 
>
>>
>> I am already looking for a firmware hacker to adapt an behavior from the
>> stereodatamaker firmware ( http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/sdm/index.htm )
>> available for many Canon Point & Shoot cameras:
>> When pressing the release button start measuring and do the calculations,
>> only when releasing the release button take the image.
>> With this one can press the release button for e.g. 500 ms, and then have
>> all the images taken at the very same moment when releasing it.
>>
>
> It won't be useful for your purpose,  but its an interesting alternative
> for 2 cams on doing 3D pictures:
>
>
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-3-D-Stereoscope-Slide-and-Video-Shooter/
>
> On the other side, at this other 
> project<http://www.instructables.com/id/Camera-Panorama-robot-head-panograph/>,
> the guy mentions an alternative firmware for canon that you can find here:
>
> http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK
>
> and it seams that can treat that delay time to calculate exposure. Maybe
> you already know it...
>
> [ ]s, Carlos.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] 4 GoPro camera street view need help

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

this is Jan from
http://www.diy-streetview.org
and
http://www.diy-streetview.com

I also started the page at panotools:
http://wiki.panotools.org/Stitching_Streetview

Please find the images taken with my 5-GoPro HD rig displayed by Google API
v3.
They call it "custom streetview":
http://www.diy-streetview.com/googleapi

Same panos in equirectangular format:
http://www.diy-streetview.com/data/diy-20110418-equi

One camera faces straight up, therefore the Zenith is covered.

There are lots of nice ideas in this thread.
However the reality is way less fancy.

Right now I am facing this challenge:
The release button of the GoPro HD camera is "single stage" only.
This means after pressing the button each camera takes an individual period
of time to calculate the exposure, and only after that period it takes the
image. All images you see at my website are stitched from a template made
from a set of images with the camera stationary and not moving at all.
All other images have been taken while walking. You can clearly see that
there are stitching errors introduced by the images being taken at slightly
different times, and therefore with slightly different positions. (Mostly
pitch is different.)

I am already looking for a firmware hacker to adapt an behavior from the
stereodatamaker firmware ( http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/sdm/index.htm )
available for many Canon Point & Shoot cameras:
When pressing the release button start measuring and do the calculations,
only when releasing the release button take the image.
With this one can press the release button for e.g. 500 ms, and then have
all the images taken at the very same moment when releasing it.
However the GoPro HD hardware is ARM based, and hacking seems to be hard.
All available firmwares available are listed here for download:
http://goprouser.freeforums.org/stickie-list-of-firmware-versions-and-dates-t2689.html
In case you feel qualified, have a look. I am willing to provide a GoPro HD
camera for hacking.

Shameless sales plug:
I am selling the 5-GoPro HD casing for 500 $US to everyone who likes to give
it a try by himself.
Combined with the PCB board from
http://photoshipone.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=40&products_id=221
all you need is a soldering iron to solder the two wires to the release
button.
And some software for mass-stitching, which shouldn't be a problem for the
most of you.

Contact me off-list at
janmartin AT diy-streetview DOT com

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: "stitch large images in just a few seconds"

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

I wrote to Zeev.

He is doing some even more interesting stuff:

..."To tell you the truth, at this point I wouldn't bother to implement
MVC in order to do image stitching.
Right now we are working on a method which allows to approximate
solutions of Poisson equation (which is what state-of-the-art image
stitching methods use to create the panoramas). The new method will be
very fast and even simpler to implement than MVC - no triangulations
and stuff like that.
We are going to submit it to Siggraph Asia in May and I intend to make
the code publicly available as fast as possible after the
submission/acceptance."...

I invited Zeev to join us and provided the link to this thread too.

Anyway here is the source code for MVC he provided to me by email:
http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20110329/MVCDemo_by_Zeev_Farbman.zip

Jan



On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:41 PM, kevin  wrote:

> On Mar 29, 12:12 pm, Agos  wrote:
> > the results are indeed very impressive. I'll leave to those who know math
> to
> > say if this could really be useful for hugin :)
>
> Yeah, I don't understand the math either!  But it looks like they are
> solving the laplace portion in a different way that's faster.  I know
> from speed tests I've done before if that could be used to speed up
> enblend then stitching large panos would be much faster.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] error on stitching: enblend: unknown option "-U"

[Jan Martin]

I see one right here:
-U <- there it is!

from a long file name:
-Users-jeff-Desktop-t-nexus-
1row-IMG_20110308_103405-IMG_20110308_103534.jpg

I think I had a problem like this once with the filename being to long for
some internal variable to hold it. But this problem has been fixed and did
not happen again since.

Try shorter filenames for testing and let us know if it works.
Could be a recursion.

Jan




On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I got this while stitching:
>
> enblend: unknown option "-U"
>
> strange, I don't have any -U specified for enblend in my prefs.
>
> full log below:
>
> ===
> ***  Panorama makefile generated by Hugin   ***
> ===
> System information
> ===
> Software:
>
> System Software Overview:
>
>   System Version: Mac OS X 10.6.6 (10J567)
>   Kernel Version: Darwin 10.6.0
>   Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
>   Boot Mode: Normal
>   Computer Name: Jeffrey Martin’s MacBook (7)
>   User Name: Jeffrey Martin (jeff)
>   Secure Virtual Memory: Enabled
>   64-bit Kernel and Extensions: No
>   Time since boot: 16 days 13:23
>
> Hardware:
>
> Hardware Overview:
>
>   Model Name: MacBook
>   Model Identifier: MacBook3,1
>   Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
>   Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz
>   Number Of Processors: 1
>   Total Number Of Cores: 2
>   L2 Cache: 4 MB
>   Memory: 4 GB
>   Bus Speed: 800 MHz
>   Boot ROM Version: MB31.008E.B02
>   SMC Version (system): 1.24f3
>   Serial Number (system): WQ74659UZ63
>   Hardware UUID: 8B8D15D2-58A3-509C-8195-615F4649CE2A
>   Sudden Motion Sensor:
>   State: Enabled
>
> Disc usage
> Filesystem  Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/disk0s2   465Gi  312Gi  153Gi67%/
> devfs  121Ki  121Ki0Bi   100%/dev
> map -hosts   0Bi0Bi0Bi   100%/net
> map auto_home0Bi0Bi0Bi   100%/home
> /dev/disk1  13Gi  1.9Gi   11Gi14%/Volumes/NO NAME
> ===
> Output options
> ===
> Hugin Version: 2010.5.0.4886:a1cb4a2efa65 built by Harry van der Wolf
> Project file:
> /var/folders/tC/tCzkdRadEj4lbAKGwrYUcU+++TI/-Tmp-/huginpto_14NBO8
> Output prefix:
> -Users-jeff-Desktop-t-nexus-1row-IMG_20110308_103405-IMG_20110308_103534
> Projection: Equirectangular (2)
> Field of view: 360 x 68
> Canvas dimensions: 9508 x 1797
> Crop area: (0,0) - (9508,1797)
> Output exposure value: 0.00
> Selected outputs
> Normal panorama
> * Blended panorama
> ===
> Input images
> ===
> Number of images in project file: 19
> Number of active images: 19
> Image 0: /Users/jeff/Desktop/t/nexus-1row/IMG_20110308_103405.jpg
> Image 0: Size 1600x1200, Exposure: 0.00
> Image 1: /Users/jeff/Desktop/t/nexus-1row/IMG_20110308_103415.jpg
> Image 1: Size 1600x1200, Exposure: 0.00
> Image 2: /Users/jeff/Desktop/t/nexus-1row/IMG_20110308_103421.jpg
> Image 2: Size 1600x1200, Exposure: 0.00
> Image 3: /Users/jeff/Desktop/t/nexus-1row/IMG_20110308_103425.jpg
> Image 3: Size 1600x1200, Exposure: 0.00
> Image 4: /Users/jeff/Desktop/t/nexus-1row/IMG_20110308_103429.jpg
> Image 4: Size 1600x1200, Exposure: 0.00
> Image 5: /Users/jeff/Desktop/t/nexus-1row/IMG_20110308_103433.jpg
> Image 5: Size 1600x1200, Exposure: 0.00
> Image 6: /Users/jeff/Desktop/t/nexus-1row/IMG_20110308_103437.jpg
> Image 6: Size 1600x1200, Exposure: 0.00
> Image 7: /Users/jeff/Desktop/t/nexus-1row/IMG_20110308_103440.jpg
> Image 7: Size 1600x1200, Exposure: 0.00
> Image 8: /Users/jeff/Desktop/t/nexus-1row/IMG_20110308_103446.jpg
> Image 8: Size 1600x1200, Exposure: 0.00
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin has become unusable for me

[Jan Martin]

Jeffrey,

I don't think this is a Hugin problem. More likely a user problem.

I already offered to have a look using Skype screen-sharing, to find out
where you get it wrong repeatedly. The offer still stands.

Only alternative is you providing the images, so we can try ourself. However
this won't fix your problem, just assure you that it can be done at all.

You need to make a decision.

Jan



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> Hi,
>
> i DIDN'T use the "align" button in this case, which is why this whole thing
> is frustrating me so much.
>
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[hugin-ptx] Openbenchmarking.org has received 37,027 benchmarks within a week. Add stitching benchmark?

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

just read this article:
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/03/05/012204/35000-Linux-Benchmarks-In-a-Week

I wonder if someone is interested in creating a stitching benchmark?
With and without Graphics card?

Jan

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Broken Layout

[Jan Martin]

While we are at it:

Why can't one enter the numeric value and then just press "Enter" on the
keyboard?
Right now one has to press the button using the mouse.

Thanks,
Jan
(on Ubuntu Linux)

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:28 PM, T. Modes  wrote:

> Hi Yuv,
>
> >
> > THE CURRENT LAYOUT OF HUGIN IS 'BROKEN'.
> >
> This affects mainly linux. On windows it working nice, even with
> minimum window size.
>
> > Can we do this in the yet to be started 2011.0 release cycle, or do we
> have to
> > ship another version of Hugin that becomes unaccessible at screen sizes
> below
> > 1366x768?
>
> This applies also only to linux. On windows hugin is still usable with
> 800x600 screen size. So please not soo general statements.
>
> > Given the current hardware trends, I would suggest:
> > 1. 800x480 minimum screen size
>
> This is already set for windows and mac. The smaller size for linux
> seems to be related to Asus eeePC users.
>
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[hugin-ptx] Android market searchable now

[Jan Martin]

Hi all,

the Android market is available in the net now.
Without need for an android phone.

One can also search:
http://market.android.com/search?q=panorama

Jan

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Re: [hugin-ptx] parser for hugin PTO format

[Jan Martin]

OK, works so far, when outputting to screen only.

however this line gives a messed up file:

 ./testparser testFiles/84-84bw.pto > 84-84bw.txt

and the command line above is not in the terminals history?

Also what does one need this for PTOptimizer when there is autooptimiser?

Jan

Not sure if the 84-84bw.txt messed up file content makes it.
This is was it looks like on my screen:

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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:06 AM, dmg  wrote:

> Try the following:
>
>  cmake CMakeLists.txt
>  make
>  ./testparser testFiles/84-84bw.pto
>
>
> Thanks for the pointer to the 'j' variable.
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] parser for hugin PTO format

[Jan Martin]

Some info for non-programmers please:

How to compile?
I am on Ubuntu 10.4.
Please list the commands needed.

Also what does the example command line look like to process the example
.pto files?

For "j" explanation see:
http://wiki.panotools.org/Panorama_scripting_in_a_nutshell#Parallel_make

Thanks,
Jan




On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM, D M German  wrote:

>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I undusted the code I started few years ago and finally completed a
> working prototype:
>
> https://bitbucket.org/dmgerman/panoparser
>
> (it is here temporarily until sourceforge gives us shell access again).
>
>
> If you download it and compile it, you will find that it creates a
> program called "testparser". It uses one command line option, the name
> of a PTO file. It will convert this PTO file to an equivalent .TXT
> panotools script.
>
> THe idea of this parser is old: if we have a single parser (as a
> library) we can then have multiple tools reading (and perhaps
> generating) these files.
>
> One of the goals is to replace (or at least create an alternative
> execution path) the parser in libpano, so we can more easily upgrade it
> when we need new options/variables. This will probably help in the
> creation of more portable lens parameters.
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: One problem in 33 image stitch - long control point line showing in fast preview

[Jan Martin]

Hi James,

clicking "Clean control points" on the Images tab will automatically delete
control points that span more then 2 images or are of "statistically
unlikely" value.

Jan


On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:57 PM, ja...@jamesmorley.net <
jamesineal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry folks, found the answer to this one myself with a bit more
> Googling.
>
> Should anyone find themselves here with a similar problem, hit F3 to
> bring up the control points, sort by distance (descending) and look
> for any exceptional figures.  In my case I had two connected control
> points that were on the 8th and 10th images on the second row, and it
> stated that they were 6,000 px apart!  After deleting those, plus
> checking a few more that seemed rather high (in the hundreds, not
> thousands), everything is now good.
>
>
> On Jan 29, 7:49 pm, "ja...@jamesmorley.net" 
> wrote:
> > Hi, I am having constant problems with one part - a mis-aligned tree-
> > trunk - in a 33-image (11x3) panorama
> >
> > I have set many manual control points both sideways and upwards
> > between all the surrounding images, but to no avail.  The one clue I
> > have is that in Fast Preview there's a long orange line when I show
> > control points, and it spans right across the area where there's a
> > problem.  The strange thing is that it spans across about three images
> > (horizontally) and where the end points are I can't see any control
> > points when I go in to look at them on individual images.
> >
> > Anyone seen this sort of thing before and have any clues how I might
> > sort it?
> >
> > Thanks, James
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: can't build latest hugin from source on ubuntu (error with flann_cpp_s)

[Jan Martin]

I said so before in your other thread.

There is no Karmic Koala version!
Stop trying to install from a non-existent repository.

Go for Lucid Lynx  10.04. It's LTS. = Long Term Support.
Avoid the latest Ubuntu version as there will be many incompatibilities with
programs not yet updated to it.
Most programs support the latest LTS version and TRY to cover the latest
version.

Here is a list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases

Jan


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Tim Nugent  wrote:

> That path is wrong. Go here:
>
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/hugin/nightly/ubuntu/dists/
>
>  And you can see
> what's available, doesn't look like karmic is supported.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 28 January 2011 15:53, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> When doing this,
>> sudo apt-get update
>>
>> I get these errors.
>>
>> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages
>>   404  Not Found
>> Fetched 20.9kB in 0s (26.9kB/s)
>> W: Failed to fetch
>> http://ppa.launchpad.net/hugin/nightly/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
>> 404  Not Found
>>
>>
>> is there any point in continuing?
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] can't find libpano13 2.9.18

[Jan Martin]

Jeffrey,

I don't have AMD nor 64bit, so I am done with helping.
Sorry.

Someone else please?

Jan


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jan,
>
> Checking synaptic, there is only Hugin 0.8.
>
> Jeffrey
>
>
> On Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:14:35 PM UTC-5, janmartin wrote:
>
>> There is no need to restart with Linux.
>> If it worked (I doubt it) hugin should be the newest version.
>>
>> You can check Synaptic for hugin version now.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Jeffrey Martin <360c...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I restarted, but I can't find Hugin anywhere if I search for it
>>> in Ubuntu Software Center for example, nothing is found. Maybe I'm just
>>> being dumb at this point it did take about 20 minutes to download and
>>> install something... ugh :)
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Jeffrey
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 27, 2011 5:58:45 PM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hi Jeffrey

 Compiling development versions of packages is not for everyone; They are
 prone to fail in most spectacular ways, and sometimes, this is
 deliberately ;)
 However, for Ubuntu users, there is  another way to get the latest
 release; the nightly hugin build available from
 https://launchpad.net/~hugin/+archive/nightly
 Of course, nobody will be able to guarantee that these packages actually
 do what they have been intended to do. However, they compiled without
 error and can be installed with very little effort on most actual Ubuntu
 systems.
 In your case, I'd assume that the following commands, issued inside an
 opened terminal window, will do:

 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:hugin/nightly

 sudo apt-get update

 sudo apt-get upgrade

 After this procedure, you can start hugin either from the command line
 or from the main menu, and you should get a working hugin
 2010.5.0.a919ab72e6b1 (At least if done at or around 01/26/11)

 As I already have mentioned, no one can guarantee that this version from
 the nightly build series actually works. However, it has been compiled
 on the launchpad infrastructure in order to being published in the ppa.

 If you want to play it safer, you can replace ppa:hugin/nightly with
 ppa:hugin/hugin-builds in the commands above. In this case, you will get
 hugin 2010.4.0+dfsg, the latest stable version. BTW, this version has
 been ack'd into the upcoming next Ubuntu version (Natty) today.


 Cheers

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Re: [hugin-ptx] can't find libpano13 2.9.18

[Jan Martin]

There is no need to restart with Linux.
If it worked (I doubt it) hugin should be the newest version.

You can check Synaptic for hugin version now.

Jan


On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I restarted, but I can't find Hugin anywhere if I search for it
> in Ubuntu Software Center for example, nothing is found. Maybe I'm just
> being dumb at this point it did take about 20 minutes to download and
> install something... ugh :)
>
> Any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> Jeffrey
>
>
> On Thursday, January 27, 2011 5:58:45 PM UTC-5, Stefan wrote:
>>
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>> Hi Jeffrey
>>
>> Compiling development versions of packages is not for everyone; They are
>> prone to fail in most spectacular ways, and sometimes, this is
>> deliberately ;)
>> However, for Ubuntu users, there is  another way to get the latest
>> release; the nightly hugin build available from
>> https://launchpad.net/~hugin/+archive/nightly
>> Of course, nobody will be able to guarantee that these packages actually
>> do what they have been intended to do. However, they compiled without
>> error and can be installed with very little effort on most actual Ubuntu
>> systems.
>> In your case, I'd assume that the following commands, issued inside an
>> opened terminal window, will do:
>>
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:hugin/nightly
>>
>> sudo apt-get update
>>
>> sudo apt-get upgrade
>>
>> After this procedure, you can start hugin either from the command line
>> or from the main menu, and you should get a working hugin
>> 2010.5.0.a919ab72e6b1 (At least if done at or around 01/26/11)
>>
>> As I already have mentioned, no one can guarantee that this version from
>> the nightly build series actually works. However, it has been compiled
>> on the launchpad infrastructure in order to being published in the ppa.
>>
>> If you want to play it safer, you can replace ppa:hugin/nightly with
>> ppa:hugin/hugin-builds in the commands above. In this case, you will get
>> hugin 2010.4.0+dfsg, the latest stable version. BTW, this version has
>> been ack'd into the upcoming next Ubuntu version (Natty) today.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Stefan Peter
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] can't find libpano13 2.9.18

[Jan Martin]

Continue with make and see what happens.


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i've gotten a bit further now, but not much. now I get these errors;
>
>
>  cmake ../hugin.hg -DENABLE_LAPACK=YES -DCPACK_BINARY_DEB:BOOL=ON
> -DCPACK_BINARY_NSIS:BOOL=OFF-DCPACK_BINARY_RPM:BOOL=OFF
> -DCPACK_BINARY_STGZ:BOOL=OFF -DCPACK_BINARY_TBZ2:BOOL=OFF
> -DCPACK_BINARY_TGZ:BOOL=OFF -DCPACK_BINARY_TZ:BOOL=OFF
> -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=RelWithDebInfo
> hg: unknown command 'summary'
> -- Current HG revision is
> -- Found wxWidgets: TRUE
> -- Found TIFF: /usr/include
> -- Found JPEG: /usr/include
> -- Found PNG: /usr/include
> -- WARNING: you are using the obsolete 'PKGCONFIG' macro use FindPkgConfig
> -- Found OPENEXR:
> /usr/lib/libImath.so;/usr/lib/libIlmImf.so;/usr/lib/libIex.so;/usr/lib/libHalf.so;/usr/lib/libIlmThread.so
> -- GLUT Found
> -- Found Glew:
> -- libpano13 version: 2.9.18 major 2 minor 9 patch 18
> -- Program msgfmt found (/usr/bin/msgfmt)
> -- LAPACK found (/usr/lib/liblapack.so;/usr/lib/libblas.so)
> -- Using shared internal libraries
> -- Configuring done
> CMake Error: CMake can not determine linker language for target:flann_cpp
> CMake Error: Cannot determine link language for target "flann_cpp".
> Warning: Source file
> "/home/jeff/src/hugin/hugin.hg/src/hugin1/ptbatcher/PTBatcherGUI.cpp" is
> listed multiple times for target "PTBatcherGUI".
> -- Generating done
> -- Build files have been written to: /home/jeff/src/hugin/hugin.hg
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Re: [hugin-ptx] can't find libpano13 2.9.18

[Jan Martin]

You need to follow the page from top to bottom:

http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Ubuntu

Jan


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Jan, that worked! :-)
>
> Now, I still am getting errors when attempting to compile Hugin:
>
> CMake Error at CMakeModules/FindPANO13.cmake:35 (FILE):
>   file STRINGS file "/usr/include/pano13/version.h" can
> Call Stack (most recent call first):
>   CMakeLists.txt:211 (FIND_PACKAGE)
>
>
> CMake Error at CMakeModules/FindPANO13.cmake:78 (MESSAG
>   libpano13 not found
> Call Stack (most recent call first):
>   CMakeLists.txt:211 (FIND_PACKAGE)
>
>
> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
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Re: [hugin-ptx] can't find libpano13 2.9.18

[Jan Martin]

Its "trunk", so it will be the newest.

Jan

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thanks jan,
>
> will that compile 2.9.14 (which is what I already have) or the newer 2.9.18
> ?
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Re: [hugin-ptx] can't find libpano13 2.9.18

[Jan Martin]

So what?

Here it's described:
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Ubuntu#Building_Libpano13

make sure to follow this first:
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Ubuntu#Building_Environment

Jan


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> i think i am really very close to compiling hugin, but i just need
> libpano13 2.9.18 i would rather do it this way
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Re: [hugin-ptx] can't find libpano13 2.9.18

[Jan Martin]

Are you sure you are using Karmic Koala? (9.10)
And AMD, and 64 bit?

Go here, and click your way through:
http://ppa.launchpad.net/hugin/nightly/ubuntu/

There is no "karmic".
Just lucid, maverick and natty.

I am staying with 9.04 (lucid)
It's a "long time support" version, and will make less trouble then the
newest version available.

Jan


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> when trying to refresh synaptic package manager, i got this:
>
>
> Failed to fetch
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/hugin/nightly/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
> 404  Not Found
> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones
> used instead.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] can't find libpano13 2.9.18

[Jan Martin]

Then you click "Reload" in the Synaptic main window.
After that you "Quick search" for hugin and "Mark it for installation".
Then click "Apply".

Thats it.
You will be notified when a new version becomes available.

Jan

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jan,
>
> adding "http://ppa.launchpad.net/hugin/nightly/ubuntu"; in the field for
> "APT line" does not enable the "add source" button. it stays grayed out.
>
> I tried "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/hugin/nightly/ubuntu karmic main"
> (as in the example text provided) and that let me click the "add" button.
>
> and then what? :)
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