[hugin-ptx] Re: Why WIGINWIS (What I Get Is Not What I See)?

2012-07-09 Thread ecs1749
Sorry.  Windows 7, Hugin Pre-Release 2011.5.0.ab9192a60c64 built by Matthew 
Petroff.

I repeated the process several times with 2 different projects and the 
result is similar.  I'll put together the necessary files and report back.  
In addition to Align and Stitch, I've done some masking but the misplaced 
pictures are not always associated with maskings.  Be back with project 
files.

On Sunday, July 8, 2012 11:41:04 PM UTC-7, Bart van Andel wrote:

 What version of Hugin? On what machine? We need a bit more detail to check 
 what went wrong.

 Could you repeat the process and if it fails again, tell us *exactly* how 
 you got there? Because this is a very unlikely result if you *only* pressed 
 the Stitch button on the stitching tab after checking the alignment in 
 the fast preview. Please provide a zip with your project file and (scaled 
 down) images as well if possible.

 --
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 On Monday, July 9, 2012 8:01:51 AM UTC+2, ecs1749 wrote:

 I've done several 360-180 pictures where the picture looks great in fast 
 pre-view mode but looks horrible after I stitch them together.  What is 
 causing that?

 See photos attached.



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[hugin-ptx] Blending question

2012-06-03 Thread ecs1749
Is there a way to handle this blending issue: The left end of my 360 
panorama picture created has an obvious different exposure level than the 
right hand side even though they are the same picture.  The optimization 
process assigns a different EV to the two ends.  As a result, as I rotate 
the .mov file, I ended up with an ugly transition as it goes through one 
side and rotate back from the other.  How should I handle this?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Blending question

2012-06-03 Thread ecs1749
Thanks, Jan.  It does look better, much better.

On Sunday, June 3, 2012 1:28:39 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:

 Kim,

 you are using multiblend, and wrapping is a known challenge.

 Search the mailing list for multiblend for details on how to fix this by 
 running multiblend twice:
 http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx

 Or you can try to reduce blending levels by 1 or more:
  -l -1
 to make the error go away.

 Jan


 On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:17 AM, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a way to handle this blending issue: The left end of my 360 
 panorama picture created has an obvious different exposure level than the 
 right hand side even though they are the same picture.  The optimization 
 process assigns a different EV to the two ends.  As a result, as I rotate 
 the .mov file, I ended up with an ugly transition as it goes through one 
 side and rotate back from the other.  How should I handle this? 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] white image was not identified as redundant

2012-06-01 Thread ecs1749
Thanks.

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:10:17 PM UTC-7, Groogle wrote:

 On Wednesday, 30 May 2012 at 22:51:53 -0700, ecs1749 wrote: 
  I am getting this message during stitching: 
  
  enblend: warning: failed to detect any seam 
  enblend: mask is entirely black, but white image was not identified as 
  redundant 
  
  and the process stopped. 
  
  What does that message mean? 

 This is described at 

 http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ#Enblend_error:_Mask_is_entirely_black.2C_but_white_image_was_not_identified_as_redundant
  

 According to that page, it should be fixed in enblend version 4.0, 
 which has been the current version for some time.  I have some 
 recollection that it's still possible to have this problem with 4.0, 
 but it's much less likely. 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] enblend: info: loading next image: name.tif 1/1 make: *** [name.jpg] Error 255

2012-06-01 Thread ecs1749
Thanks, that should save some time.  I shuffled the order of the tif files 
and was able to go further but enblend still crash w the 255 error.

What about that .mk file?  Is hugin using a standard make?  

On Friday, June 1, 2012 4:20:06 AM UTC-7, Cartola wrote:

 Hi,

 I usually stitch remapped images and run enblend by hand, to avoid things 
 like that and have to start all over. It is just an idea. I usually run by 
 hand with parameters like:

 -w (to wrap horizontally as I make fullsphere panoramas)
 -m 6000 (to increase memory usage as I have 8G RAM in this machine)
 --compression=95 (to set JPG quality when I want a jpg output file)

 So:

 enblend -w -m 6000 --compression=95 -o output.jpg input0001.tif 
 input0002.tif ...

 I usually refer to all input files with a wildcard like input*.tif

 Cheers,

 Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
 http://cartola.org/360
 http://cartola.org/panoforum



 2012/5/31 ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com

 Anybody know why enblend crashes with the Subject message during the 
 stitch process?  The message appeared after Hugin invoked enblend 9 times 
 for the first 9 tif files, and then crashed on the 10th, after displaying 
 the above message.

 Running latest version of Hugin, Windows 7.

 Is there a way to restart only the enblend portion only?  I don't want to 
 have to go through the entire process as I try different parameters for 
 enblend...

 Thanks,

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[hugin-ptx] Re: enblend: info: loading next image: name.tif 1/1 make: *** [name.jpg] Error 255

2012-06-01 Thread ecs1749
Okay.  It's obvious the crash is not caused by the number of tif files 
enblend loaded but by certain tif files.  This is very discouraging.  Been 
trying for days to get one picture done but ran into one roadblock after 
another.

Anybody has any ideas on how to get around this 255 error?  Is there an 
alternative program I can try?

On Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:55:37 PM UTC-7, ecs1749 wrote:

 Anybody know why enblend crashes with the Subject message during the 
 stitch process?  The message appeared after Hugin invoked enblend 9 times 
 for the first 9 tif files, and then crashed on the 10th, after displaying 
 the above message.

 Running latest version of Hugin, Windows 7.

 Is there a way to restart only the enblend portion only?  I don't want to 
 have to go through the entire process as I try different parameters for 
 enblend...

 Thanks,


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: enblend: info: loading next image: name.tif 1/1 make: *** [name.jpg] Error 255

2012-06-01 Thread ecs1749
WORKS!!!  Very fast and processed all 147 tif files without even a 
slightest sigh or cough!

On Friday, June 1, 2012 11:47:09 AM UTC-7, Cartola wrote:

 You can try multiblend:

 List history about 
 ithttps://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/search?group=hugin-ptxq=multiblendqt_g=Search+this+group

 The tool site http://horman.net/multiblend/

 Good luck!

 Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
 http://cartola.org/360
 http://cartola.org/panoforum



 2012/6/1 ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com

 Okay.  It's obvious the crash is not caused by the number of tif files 
 enblend loaded but by certain tif files.  This is very discouraging.  Been 
 trying for days to get one picture done but ran into one roadblock after 
 another.

 Anybody has any ideas on how to get around this 255 error?  Is there an 
 alternative program I can try?


 On Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:55:37 PM UTC-7, ecs1749 wrote:

 Anybody know why enblend crashes with the Subject message during the 
 stitch process?  The message appeared after Hugin invoked enblend 9 times 
 for the first 9 tif files, and then crashed on the 10th, after displaying 
 the above message.

 Running latest version of Hugin, Windows 7.

 Is there a way to restart only the enblend portion only?  I don't want 
 to have to go through the entire process as I try different parameters for 
 enblend...

 Thanks,

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[hugin-ptx] enblend: info: loading next image: name.tif 1/1 make: *** [name.jpg] Error 255

2012-05-31 Thread ecs1749
Anybody know why enblend crashes with the Subject message during the stitch 
process?  The message appeared after Hugin invoked enblend 9 times for the 
first 9 tif files, and then crashed on the 10th, after displaying the above 
message.

Running latest version of Hugin, Windows 7.

Is there a way to restart only the enblend portion only?  I don't want to 
have to go through the entire process as I try different parameters for 
enblend...

Thanks,

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[hugin-ptx] Identifying image button

2012-05-31 Thread ecs1749
I just discovered that I can do a ctrl-drag mouse over the preview-globe 
and Hugin would high light the corresponding image button (and in different 
colors).  This is a very useful feature.  Unfortunately, it works great if 
all of the buttons fit on the screen.  Let say you have 60 pictures and the 
1st and the 60th overlaps.  When I do a ctrl-drag over the overlapped area, 
I can only see one of the 2 image buttons.  It gets very frustrating 
because if I scroll the buttons horizontally, the highlight goes away.  I 
am working on a project consists of 144 photos and you can imagine how hard 
it is  to have to jump back and forth in order to use this function.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread ecs1749
I set the number of CPU down to 1, still fails after 6 photos (4948 bit 
wide each).  If I reduce the resolution of each photo to 1600 (268kb file 
size each), I can load 140+ pictures no sweat.  At a resolution of  3200 
bits wide and I was able to load close to 100 photos before it fails.

If anybody wants to try, the pictures are located at:

https://picasaweb.google.com/116295145477369704246/HuginTest?authkey=Gv1sRgCPeHl_-Wmci06QE
 

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:16:27 PM UTC-7, Steeve wrote:

 An error happened while loading image :  caught exception: bad 
  allocation 
 Hasn't this problem already been discussed on this newsgroups? 

 In summary on computers with multiple cores/processors images are 
 being loaded in parallel which consumes too much memory.. The error is 
 not coming from the memory which is currently being used, but from the 
 additional memory it wants to allocate.. You can find a better 
 explanation by search the newsgroup for bad allocation 

 The workaround was to reduce the number of CPUs Hugin uses.. 

 In Hugin look at file-preferences- number of CPUs. On my machine 
 this was set to 4 I had to reduce it to 1. 

 With 4 I'd typically get this error after 10 images (I've got a 
 smaller camera sensor) 
 With 2 I'd still occassionally got this error 
 So I end up having to reduce this to 1. 

 Regards 
 Steve 





 On May 30, 5:01 am, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote: 
  For my case, this is the newly available 64 bit version of Hugin (w new 
  GUI), running under Windows 7, 8G of real memory, plenty of disk space 
 for 
  temp, and the max amount of memory used by Hugin appears to be less than 
  1.5G.  The failure occurs with ramdon set of photos at widths of 4948 
 bits 
  each.  Most cases I tried, the failure occurs after a handful of 
 pictures - 
  around 4 to 5.  The error message simply says  An error happened while 
  loading image : 
   caught exception: bad  allocation.   If I scale the pictures down to 
 1087 
  bits, there is no issue.  I can process over a hundred files no problem. 
   What else info can I provide to help? 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:53:12 PM UTC-7, Bart van Andel wrote: 
  
   It would help if you provide a *detailed* description of when things 
 go 
   wrong instead of just saying Hugin crashes. Which version, which OS, 
 32 
   or 64 bit, amount of RAM, *specific error message*, all of those may 
   matter. Moreover, giving incorrect information (which you did, I guess 
 not 
   purposefully but nonetheless) can steer your fellow group members in 
 the 
   wrong direction. Being precise can save everyone some time - and a 
 little 
   frustration. Please keep that in mind. 
  
   Also, I asked which program crashed a couple replies back. Please do 
 read 
   answers carefully when people are offering you a hand. We are all 
   volunteers here. 
  
   Could you try to see which image the cp generators are crashing on 
   exactly? If you find it, you may want to post it somewhere so we can 
 have a 
   look at it. Maybe one of your images is broken which may cause all 
 kinds of 
   unexpected behavior. 
  
   -- 
   Bart 
  
   On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:02:36 PM UTC+2, ecs1749 wrote: 
  
   Yes, I have done both and still fails.  Incidentally, the failure is 
 not 
   when loading the images.  It's when detecting control points.  I've 
 tried 
   changing detectors and they all fail the same fashion (some sooner 
 than 
   others). 
  
   On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:09:06 AM UTC-7, Stefan wrote: 
  
   On 27.05.2012 20:28, ecs1749 wrote: 
I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load 
 photos 
at full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos before 
running into the dreadful An error happened while loading image : 
caught exception: bad  allocation.  I have plenty of free memory 
 - 
according to the Task Manager. 
  
   Have you tried to increase the image cache memory setting in the 
 Hugin 
   Preferences dialog? Are you sure you have enough free disk space in 
 your 
   TEMP directory? 
  
   With kind regards 
  
   Stefan Peter 
  
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread ecs1749
I am able to go a lot further with this setting.  I am pushing to see how 
many photos I can process - right now it's processing 32 no problem.

On Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:28:09 AM UTC-7, ecs1749 wrote:

 I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load photos at 
 full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos before running into 
 the dreadful An error happened while loading image : caught exception: 
 bad  allocation.  I have plenty of free memory - according to the Task 
 Manager.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread ecs1749
I have the raw file but when Picasa sync with web site, it automatically 
converts them to jpg and strips the EXIF.  I'll see if there's a way to 
include the EXIF.

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:00:04 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:

 Is it just me, or is there really no way to get the original images with 
 EXIF intact?
 Also I do not want to download 100 images one by one.

 Jan

 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:48 PM, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I set the number of CPU down to 1, still fails after 6 photos (4948 bit 
 wide each).  If I reduce the resolution of each photo to 1600 (268kb file 
 size each), I can load 140+ pictures no sweat.  At a resolution of  3200 
 bits wide and I was able to load close to 100 photos before it fails.

 If anybody wants to try, the pictures are located at:


 https://picasaweb.google.com/116295145477369704246/HuginTest?authkey=Gv1sRgCPeHl_-Wmci06QE
  


 On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:16:27 PM UTC-7, Steeve wrote:

 An error happened while loading image :  caught exception: bad 
  allocation 
 Hasn't this problem already been discussed on this newsgroups? 

 In summary on computers with multiple cores/processors images are 
 being loaded in parallel which consumes too much memory.. The error is 
 not coming from the memory which is currently being used, but from the 
 additional memory it wants to allocate.. You can find a better 
 explanation by search the newsgroup for bad allocation 

 The workaround was to reduce the number of CPUs Hugin uses.. 

 In Hugin look at file-preferences- number of CPUs. On my machine 
 this was set to 4 I had to reduce it to 1. 

 With 4 I'd typically get this error after 10 images (I've got a 
 smaller camera sensor) 
 With 2 I'd still occassionally got this error 
 So I end up having to reduce this to 1. 

 Regards 
 Steve 





 On May 30, 5:01 am, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote: 
  For my case, this is the newly available 64 bit version of Hugin (w 
 new 
  GUI), running under Windows 7, 8G of real memory, plenty of disk space 
 for 
  temp, and the max amount of memory used by Hugin appears to be less 
 than 
  1.5G.  The failure occurs with ramdon set of photos at widths of 4948 
 bits 
  each.  Most cases I tried, the failure occurs after a handful of 
 pictures - 
  around 4 to 5.  The error message simply says  An error happened 
 while 
  loading image : 
   caught exception: bad  allocation.   If I scale the pictures down to 
 1087 
  bits, there is no issue.  I can process over a hundred files no 
 problem. 
   What else info can I provide to help? 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:53:12 PM UTC-7, Bart van Andel wrote: 
  
   It would help if you provide a *detailed* description of when things 
 go 
   wrong instead of just saying Hugin crashes. Which version, which 
 OS, 32 
   or 64 bit, amount of RAM, *specific error message*, all of those may 
   matter. Moreover, giving incorrect information (which you did, I 
 guess not 
   purposefully but nonetheless) can steer your fellow group members in 
 the 
   wrong direction. Being precise can save everyone some time - and a 
 little 
   frustration. Please keep that in mind. 
  
   Also, I asked which program crashed a couple replies back. Please do 
 read 
   answers carefully when people are offering you a hand. We are all 
   volunteers here. 
  
   Could you try to see which image the cp generators are crashing on 
   exactly? If you find it, you may want to post it somewhere so we can 
 have a 
   look at it. Maybe one of your images is broken which may cause all 
 kinds of 
   unexpected behavior. 
  
   -- 
   Bart 
  
   On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:02:36 PM UTC+2, ecs1749 wrote: 
  
   Yes, I have done both and still fails.  Incidentally, the failure 
 is not 
   when loading the images.  It's when detecting control points.  I've 
 tried 
   changing detectors and they all fail the same fashion (some sooner 
 than 
   others). 
  
   On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:09:06 AM UTC-7, Stefan wrote: 
  
   On 27.05.2012 20:28, ecs1749 wrote: 
I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load 
 photos 
at full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos 
 before 
running into the dreadful An error happened while loading image 
 : 
caught exception: bad  allocation.  I have plenty of free 
 memory - 
according to the Task Manager. 
  
   Have you tried to increase the image cache memory setting in the 
 Hugin 
   Preferences dialog? Are you sure you have enough free disk space 
 in your 
   TEMP directory? 
  
   With kind regards 
  
   Stefan Peter 
  
   -- 
   In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In 
   practice there is.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread ecs1749
Yes, this procedure solves the problem.  I loaded 128 photos with this 
setting and it went through.

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:58:55 AM UTC-7, ecs1749 wrote:

 I am able to go a lot further with this setting.  I am pushing to see how 
 many photos I can process - right now it's processing 32 no problem.

 On Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:28:09 AM UTC-7, ecs1749 wrote:

 I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load photos at 
 full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos before running into 
 the dreadful An error happened while loading image : caught exception: 
 bad  allocation.  I have plenty of free memory - according to the Task 
 Manager.



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread ecs1749
I followed the steps you posted and was able to process 100 or so photos.   
Here's a repost of your procedure:

If your problem is with the CP detecors, there seems to be a solution at 
least for CPFind. Can you please give this a try: 

o Open the Preferences dialog of Hugin 
o Select the Control Point Detectors tab 
o Press the Load defaults button in the lower left corner. 
o Select the entry named Hugins CPFind (Default) from the list of CP 
  detectors available. 
o Press the Edit ... button on the right. You will be presented 
  with the Parameters for Control Point Detectors dialog. 
o Add --ncores 1 to the Arguments entry. It should read now 
  --ncores 1 --multirow -o %o %s 
o Leave this screen by pressing OK 
o Use the Apply button to apply your changes. 
o Redo your panorama 
o Let us know how it went.  


On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:18:02 PM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:

 Dear ecs1749 

 On 30.05.2012 16:58, ecs1749 wrote: 
  I am able to go a lot further with this setting.  I am pushing to see 
  how many photos I can process - right now it's processing 32 no problem. 

 What setting are you talking about? Please bear in mind that all these 
 emails will be preserved for eternity and a gazillion Hugin users may 
 search for a solution to the the exact same problem you had. Wouldn't it 
 be nice for them to get a solution? Something in the way of I did this 
 and this, and now it works? Not to mention the fact that in order to 
 solve these problems in Hugin, the developers and contributors to the 
 project are eager to know what to do to fix the problems found by their 
 users. 
 So, please, what did you do _exactly_ in order to be able to create your 
 pano? 

 WKR 

 Stefan Peter 



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-30 Thread ecs1749
Hugin;s CPFind + Celeste
Autopano-SIFT-C
Autopano
Panomatic
Align Image stack
CPFind (multirow/stacked)
Autopano-SIFT-C (multirow/stack)
Vertical lines

I tried them all.  Some I get a .exe file not found.  Others fail the same 
way.  I will provide more information once I finish with the pano I've been 
working on.

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:57:24 PM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:

 Dear ecs1749 

 On 30.05.2012 21:59, ecs1749 wrote: 
  I followed the steps you posted and was able to process 100 or so 
  photos.   Here's a repost of your procedure: 

 Thank you very much for confirming that this has helped wit CPFind. If I 
 recall correctly, this issue has been fixed already in the current 
 development version, so it should not resurface in any Hugin version  
 2011.04. However, the situation for CP detectors other than CPFind has 
 to be reevaluated because you mentioned that these have failed you. too. 
 Can you, by any chance, remember what other CPDs you tried without 
 success? 


 With kind regards 

 Stefan Peter 


  
  If your problem is with the CP detecors, there seems to be a solution at 
  least for CPFind. Can you please give this a try: 
  
  o Open the Preferences dialog of Hugin 
  o Select the Control Point Detectors tab 
  o Press the Load defaults button in the lower left corner. 
  o Select the entry named Hugins CPFind (Default) from the list of CP 
detectors available. 
  o Press the Edit ... button on the right. You will be presented 
with the Parameters for Control Point Detectors dialog. 
  o Add --ncores 1 to the Arguments entry. It should read now 
--ncores 1 --multirow -o %o %s 
  o Leave this screen by pressing OK 
  o Use the Apply button to apply your changes. 
  o Redo your panorama 
  o Let us know how it went.   
  
  
  On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:18:02 PM UTC-7, Stefan wrote: 
  
  Dear ecs1749 
  
  On 30.05.2012 16:58, ecs1749 wrote: 
   I am able to go a lot further with this setting.  I am pushing to 
 see 
   how many photos I can process - right now it's processing 32 no 
  problem. 
  
  What setting are you talking about? Please bear in mind that all 
 these 
  emails will be preserved for eternity and a gazillion Hugin users 
 may 
  search for a solution to the the exact same problem you had. 
  Wouldn't it 
  be nice for them to get a solution? Something in the way of I did 
 this 
  and this, and now it works? Not to mention the fact that in order 
 to 
  solve these problems in Hugin, the developers and contributors to 
 the 
  project are eager to know what to do to fix the problems found by 
 their 
  users. 
  So, please, what did you do _exactly_ in order to be able to create 
  your 
  pano? 
  
  WKR 
  
  Stefan Peter 
  
  
  
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  need to be solved, using a tool that is not meant to solve it, 
 without 
  understanding what is causing your problems and without knowing how 
  the tool actually works in the first place :) 
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[hugin-ptx] white image was not identified as redundant

2012-05-30 Thread ecs1749
I am getting this message during stitching:

enblend: warning: failed to detect any seam
enblend: mask is entirely black, but white image was not identified as 
redundant

and the process stopped.

What does that message mean?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-29 Thread ecs1749
Yes, I have done both and still fails.  Incidentally, the failure is not 
when loading the images.  It's when detecting control points.  I've tried 
changing detectors and they all fail the same fashion (some sooner than 
others).

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:09:06 AM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:

 On 27.05.2012 20:28, ecs1749 wrote: 
  I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load photos 
  at full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos before 
  running into the dreadful An error happened while loading image : 
  caught exception: bad  allocation.  I have plenty of free memory - 
  according to the Task Manager. 

 Have you tried to increase the image cache memory setting in the Hugin 
 Preferences dialog? Are you sure you have enough free disk space in your 
 TEMP directory? 

 With kind regards 

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Feature request: Bring image to top when Move/Drag

2012-05-29 Thread ecs1749
I still don't know what good is the move/drag feature.  It doesn't affect 
the control  points at all.  So, what do you use it for?

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:31:21 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:

 Hi all,

 when moving an image in the Fast Panorama preview it is often hidden by 
 the other images.

 I wonder if someone is willing to implement this:
 Have an automatic to bring the image grabbed with the mouse forward so one 
 can place it more easily?
 Same when clicking an images number, so one can then grab it easily with 
 the mouse.

 What do you think?

 P.S.: 
 Also I still have not found a way to do Move up / Move down in the 
 Photos tab with the new GUI?


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Feature request: Bring image to top when Move/Drag

2012-05-29 Thread ecs1749
I did read that section. It tells me what it does - not what it's for.  
Using this tool you can recentre the panorama interactively . So, do I do 
this to make it easier to view the globe, or does it actually affect the 
way the output image is created?

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:57:27 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Fast_Preview_window#Move.2FDrag_tab


On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote:

I still don't know what good is the move/drag feature. It doesn't affect 
the control points at all. So, what do you use it for?



On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:31:21 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:
Hi all,

when moving an image in the Fast Panorama preview it is often hidden by the 
other images.

I wonder if someone is willing to implement this:
Have an automatic to bring the image grabbed with the mouse forward so one 
can place it more easily?
Same when clicking an images number, so one can then grab it easily with 
the mouse.

What do you think?

P.S.: 
Also I still have not found a way to do Move up / Move down in the Photos 
tab with the new GUI?


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Feature request: Bring image to top when Move/Drag

2012-05-29 Thread ecs1749
Thanks.  Now that's clear.

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:46:57 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:

 The image alway shows what the output image will look like. (For speed 
 reasons it is not perfect.)
 So if you move it  (or parts of it) it does affect the output image.

 You can move the globe with the mouse. You need to grab beside the globe, 
 not the globe itself.
 Moving the globe does not affect the output image.

 We really need some screen video for hugin.

 Jan

 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:37 PM, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I did read that section. It tells me what it does - not what it's for.  
 Using this tool you can recentre the panorama interactively . So, do I do 
 this to make it easier to view the globe, or does it actually affect the 
 way the output image is created?


 On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:57:27 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:
 http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Fast_Preview_window#Move.2FDrag_tab


 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:06 PM, ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I still don't know what good is the move/drag feature. It doesn't affect 
 the control points at all. So, what do you use it for?



 On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:31:21 AM UTC-7, Jan Martin wrote:
 Hi all,

 when moving an image in the Fast Panorama preview it is often hidden by 
 the other images.

 I wonder if someone is willing to implement this:
 Have an automatic to bring the image grabbed with the mouse forward so 
 one can place it more easily?
 Same when clicking an images number, so one can then grab it easily with 
 the mouse.

 What do you think?

 P.S.: 
 Also I still have not found a way to do Move up / Move down in the 
 Photos tab with the new GUI?


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-29 Thread ecs1749
At the time of my first post, I didn't realize that the default setting was 
set to create control points at loading time.   That's why I thought the 
error occurs at loading time.  Upon further investigation, the error occurs 
at control points detection time.  So I reported it with a clarification. 
 See Riz Thon's message below.  I am getting the exact same messages 
reported by Riz.

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:13:53 PM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:

 On 29.05.2012 18:02, ecs1749 wrote: 
  Yes, I have done both and still fails.  Incidentally, the failure is not 
  when loading the images.  It's when detecting control points.  I've 
  tried changing detectors and they all fail the same fashion (some sooner 
  than others). 

 You are aware of the fact that you have claimed that the problem arises 
 upon the loading of the images in your opening mail, don't you? 

 Do you have an error message or, even better, a log file, in order to 
 prove your statement this time? 


 With kind regards 

 Stefan Peter 


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-29 Thread ecs1749
For my case, this is the newly available 64 bit version of Hugin (w new 
GUI), running under Windows 7, 8G of real memory, plenty of disk space for 
temp, and the max amount of memory used by Hugin appears to be less than 
1.5G.  The failure occurs with ramdon set of photos at widths of 4948 bits 
each.  Most cases I tried, the failure occurs after a handful of pictures - 
around 4 to 5.  The error message simply says  An error happened while 
loading image : 
 caught exception: bad  allocation.   If I scale the pictures down to 1087 
bits, there is no issue.  I can process over a hundred files no problem. 
 What else info can I provide to help?

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:53:12 PM UTC-7, Bart van Andel wrote:

 It would help if you provide a *detailed* description of when things go 
 wrong instead of just saying Hugin crashes. Which version, which OS, 32 
 or 64 bit, amount of RAM, *specific error message*, all of those may 
 matter. Moreover, giving incorrect information (which you did, I guess not 
 purposefully but nonetheless) can steer your fellow group members in the 
 wrong direction. Being precise can save everyone some time - and a little 
 frustration. Please keep that in mind.

 Also, I asked which program crashed a couple replies back. Please do read 
 answers carefully when people are offering you a hand. We are all 
 volunteers here.

 Could you try to see which image the cp generators are crashing on 
 exactly? If you find it, you may want to post it somewhere so we can have a 
 look at it. Maybe one of your images is broken which may cause all kinds of 
 unexpected behavior.

 --
 Bart

 On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:02:36 PM UTC+2, ecs1749 wrote:

 Yes, I have done both and still fails.  Incidentally, the failure is not 
 when loading the images.  It's when detecting control points.  I've tried 
 changing detectors and they all fail the same fashion (some sooner than 
 others).

 On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:09:06 AM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:

 On 27.05.2012 20:28, ecs1749 wrote: 
  I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load photos 
  at full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos before 
  running into the dreadful An error happened while loading image : 
  caught exception: bad  allocation.  I have plenty of free memory - 
  according to the Task Manager. 

 Have you tried to increase the image cache memory setting in the Hugin 
 Preferences dialog? Are you sure you have enough free disk space in your 
 TEMP directory? 

 With kind regards 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-29 Thread ecs1749
As I indicated, I tried everyone of the detectors, and for the ones that 
runs, they all fails - some quicker than others (meaning some fails after 2 
to 4 photos, others fails after loading 4 to 5 pictures.  Some detectors 
don't run at all (not found) but that's a different issue.  I am uploading 
some test pictures for others to try.  Will post the link once they become 
available.

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:53:12 PM UTC-7, Bart van Andel wrote:

 It would help if you provide a *detailed* description of when things go 
 wrong instead of just saying Hugin crashes. Which version, which OS, 32 
 or 64 bit, amount of RAM, *specific error message*, all of those may 
 matter. Moreover, giving incorrect information (which you did, I guess not 
 purposefully but nonetheless) can steer your fellow group members in the 
 wrong direction. Being precise can save everyone some time - and a little 
 frustration. Please keep that in mind.

 Also, I asked which program crashed a couple replies back. Please do read 
 answers carefully when people are offering you a hand. We are all 
 volunteers here.

 Could you try to see which image the cp generators are crashing on 
 exactly? If you find it, you may want to post it somewhere so we can have a 
 look at it. Maybe one of your images is broken which may cause all kinds of 
 unexpected behavior.

 --
 Bart

 On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:02:36 PM UTC+2, ecs1749 wrote:

 Yes, I have done both and still fails.  Incidentally, the failure is not 
 when loading the images.  It's when detecting control points.  I've tried 
 changing detectors and they all fail the same fashion (some sooner than 
 others).

 On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:09:06 AM UTC-7, Stefan wrote:

 On 27.05.2012 20:28, ecs1749 wrote: 
  I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load photos 
  at full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos before 
  running into the dreadful An error happened while loading image : 
  caught exception: bad  allocation.  I have plenty of free memory - 
  according to the Task Manager. 

 Have you tried to increase the image cache memory setting in the Hugin 
 Preferences dialog? Are you sure you have enough free disk space in your 
 TEMP directory? 

 With kind regards 

 Stefan Peter 


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-28 Thread ecs1749
Most I've seen is only 1.5G.  I have 8G memory.  This is during loading.

On Monday, May 28, 2012 5:41:22 AM UTC-7, Bart van Andel wrote:

 How much memory is Hugin using when the error occurs? Are you talking 
 about loading images inside Hugin itself or during stitching? In other 
 words which program is failing?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-28 Thread ecs1749
Actually, less than that.  May be only 1.2G, even less then the 32 bit 
version which uses as high as 1.6G before failing.  Incidentally, if I 
scale down each picture to 1600bits wide, I can load over a hundred 
pictures and process them no problem.

On Monday, May 28, 2012 6:18:45 AM UTC-7, ecs1749 wrote:

 Most I've seen is only 1.5G.  I have 8G memory.  This is during loading.

 On Monday, May 28, 2012 5:41:22 AM UTC-7, Bart van Andel wrote:

 How much memory is Hugin using when the error occurs? Are you talking 
 about loading images inside Hugin itself or during stitching? In other 
 words which program is failing?

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[hugin-ptx] Displayed Image buttons still blocked (partially) by the horizontal scroll bar

2012-05-28 Thread ecs1749
Under Windows 7, using the new GUI 64 bit build, the Displayed Image 
buttons still being blocked (partially) by the horizontal scroll bar. 
 Since there are spaces on top of these buttons, why not move them up?

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[hugin-ptx] Memory allocation issue still not resolved w 64 bit version

2012-05-27 Thread ecs1749
I downloaded the 64 bit version for Windows 7 and tried to load photos at 
full resolutions (width 4948) .  Can only load 4 photos before running into 
the dreadful An error happened while loading image : caught exception: 
bad  allocation.  I have plenty of free memory - according to the Task 
Manager.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Move/Drag and Control Points

2012-05-26 Thread ecs1749


On Friday, May 25, 2012 2:35:46 PM UTC-7, Cartola wrote:

 No, but it uses control points. If the image you are dragging is 
 connected, the others will go together. To fill the sky with the extra 
 images don't make any control points on it before dragging.

 Cheers,

 Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
 http://cartola.org/360
 http://cartola.org/panoforum



 2012/5/25 Jan Martin janmar...@diy-streetview.org

 No.



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 Does Move/Drag on the Hugin Fast Review window has any effect on Control 
 Points? 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Inverted cone view

2012-05-25 Thread ecs1749
Thanks.  That is indeed the problem.  Dealing with the sky continues to be 
a headache.

On Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:18:50 PM UTC-7, RizThon wrote:

 You're image is obviously not a 360x180, you're missing both zenith 
 and nadir. If you give this image to PanoCube, it will simply tell you 
 that the ratio is incorrect (should be 2x1). 
 Just add data up and down so that you have the correct ratio (usually 
 if I'm missing some sky I just choose some blue for the top, and 
 usually some dark colour for the bottom). Then run again PanoCube or 
 Pano2QTVR. 

 2012/5/25 ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com: 
  I used Hugin and stitched using Equirectangular - not Cylindrical. 
  
  
  On Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:23:46 PM UTC-7, ecs1749 wrote: 
  
  In Hugin, I clicked Calculate and it gave me the values of HFOV 360 
 and 
  VFOV of 180. 
  
  On Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:20:29 AM UTC-7, Luís Henrique Camargo 
 Quiroz 
  wrote: 
  
  
Hi ecs1749! 
  
 Have you checked the vfov (vertical field of view) of the image? 
  Perhaps the interactive viewer is set with a wrong value. 
  
Luís Henrique 
  
  
  2012/5/24 Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) cartol...@gmail.com 
  
  Have you tried one of those viewers to see the jpg directly? 
  
  Cheers, 
  
  Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola) 
  http://cartola.org/360 
  http://cartola.org/panoforum 
  
  
  
  
  2012/5/24 ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com 
  
  For some unknown reason, after correcting a number of issues, the 
  Quicktime VR movie I created becomes like an inverted cone view 
 (imagine 
  standing at the bottom of an inverted cone looking up): 
  
  
  
 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0177Final_fused800.mov
  
  
  as oppose to the far more pleasant street view: 
  
  
  
 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0114-1.mov 
  
  I have no clue what I did to cause this. The jpg was created by 
 using 
  Hugin, and the Quicktime conversion was created using Pano2QTVR. 
  The jpeg 
  appears to be normal: 
  
  
  
 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0177Final_fused.jpg
  
  
  So, I am assuming I selected something when stitching that caused 
 this. 
   Anybody? 
  
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[hugin-ptx] Move/Drag and Control Points

2012-05-25 Thread ecs1749
Does Move/Drag on the Hugin Fast Review window has any effect on Control 
Points?

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[hugin-ptx] Inverted cone view

2012-05-24 Thread ecs1749
For some unknown reason, after correcting a number of issues, the Quicktime 
VR movie I created becomes like an inverted cone view (imagine standing at 
the bottom of an inverted cone looking up):

http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0177Final_fused800.mov

as oppose to the far more pleasant street view:

http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0114-1.mov

I have no clue what I did to cause this. The jpg was created by using 
Hugin, and the Quicktime conversion was created using Pano2QTVR.  The jpeg 
appears to be normal:

http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0177Final_fused.jpg

So, I am assuming I selected something when stitching that caused this. 
 Anybody?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Inverted cone view

2012-05-24 Thread ecs1749
I wonder if this is caused by missing nadir...but shouldn't that be just a 
patch of black area?

On Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:14:32 AM UTC-7, ecs1749 wrote:

 For some unknown reason, after correcting a number of issues, the 
 Quicktime VR movie I created becomes like an inverted cone view (imagine 
 standing at the bottom of an inverted cone looking up):


 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0177Final_fused800.mov

 as oppose to the far more pleasant street view:

 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0114-1.mov

 I have no clue what I did to cause this. The jpg was created by using 
 Hugin, and the Quicktime conversion was created using Pano2QTVR.  The jpeg 
 appears to be normal:


 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0177Final_fused.jpg

 So, I am assuming I selected something when stitching that caused this. 
  Anybody?


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Inverted cone view

2012-05-24 Thread ecs1749
In Hugin, I clicked Calculate and it gave me the values of HFOV 360 and 
VFOV of 180.

On Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:20:29 AM UTC-7, Luís Henrique Camargo Quiroz 
wrote:


   Hi ecs1749!

Have you checked the vfov (vertical field of view) of the image? 
 Perhaps the interactive viewer is set with a wrong value.

   Luís Henrique


 2012/5/24 Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) cartol...@gmail.com

 Have you tried one of those viewers to see the jpg directly?

 Cheers,

 Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
 http://cartola.org/360
 http://cartola.org/panoforum




 2012/5/24 ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com

 For some unknown reason, after correcting a number of issues, the 
 Quicktime VR movie I created becomes like an inverted cone view (imagine 
 standing at the bottom of an inverted cone looking up):


 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0177Final_fused800.mov

 as oppose to the far more pleasant street view:


 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0114-1.mov

 I have no clue what I did to cause this. The jpg was created by using 
 Hugin, and the Quicktime conversion was created using Pano2QTVR.  The jpeg 
 appears to be normal:


 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0177Final_fused.jpg

 So, I am assuming I selected something when stitching that caused this. 
  Anybody?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Inverted cone view

2012-05-24 Thread ecs1749
I used Hugin and stitched using Equirectangular - not Cylindrical.

On Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:23:46 PM UTC-7, ecs1749 wrote:

 In Hugin, I clicked Calculate and it gave me the values of HFOV 360 and 
 VFOV of 180.

 On Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:20:29 AM UTC-7, Luís Henrique Camargo Quiroz 
 wrote:


   Hi ecs1749!

Have you checked the vfov (vertical field of view) of the image? 
 Perhaps the interactive viewer is set with a wrong value.

   Luís Henrique


 2012/5/24 Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) cartol...@gmail.com

 Have you tried one of those viewers to see the jpg directly?

 Cheers,

 Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
 http://cartola.org/360
 http://cartola.org/panoforum




 2012/5/24 ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com

 For some unknown reason, after correcting a number of issues, the 
 Quicktime VR movie I created becomes like an inverted cone view (imagine 
 standing at the bottom of an inverted cone looking up):


 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0177Final_fused800.mov

 as oppose to the far more pleasant street view:


 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0114-1.mov

 I have no clue what I did to cause this. The jpg was created by using 
 Hugin, and the Quicktime conversion was created using Pano2QTVR.  The jpeg 
 appears to be normal:


 http://www.powersystemadvisors.com/cheungs/Panorama/DSC_0100-DSC_0177Final_fused.jpg

 So, I am assuming I selected something when stitching that caused this. 
  Anybody?

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[hugin-ptx] Why doesn't Hugin create control points vertically (it seems)?

2012-05-23 Thread ecs1749
I took a series of 360 pictures by spinning first horizontally, then tilt 
the camera upwards and take another revolution, with overlaps between the 
two revolutions.  Hugin has no trouble creating control points (plenty of 
them) to the horizontal pictures.  However, there are no control points 
vertically.  I ended up doing it by hand which defeats the whole purpose. 
 Am I missing something?

Thanks,

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[hugin-ptx] Regenerate controls points automatically from the control points window

2012-05-23 Thread ecs1749
In the control points window of Hugin, it would seem there can be a 
function that simply try to create control points automatically using only 
the two photos I am looking at.  Kind of like having the Align button from 
Assistant but have it work only for the two pictures as displayed in the 
control points window.  This would save a lot of time trying to match two 
pictures (when the first pass through the Asistant misses).   I was hoping 
that the fine-tune button would do that but it doesn't.  In fact, I don't 
see that the fine-tune button does anything.

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[hugin-ptx] Is there an easier way to deal with the sky?

2012-05-23 Thread ecs1749
The sky continues to be the troublesome part  to build a complete globe. 
 Is there an easier way to just fill-it with something so the missing 
parts don't come out black?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Is there an easier way to deal with the sky?

2012-05-23 Thread ecs1749
Has anybody compiled this plug-in for Windows?  Thanks.

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:19:54 PM UTC-7, markku...@iki.fi wrote:

 24.5.2012 0:03, ecs1749 kirjoitti: 
  The sky continues to be the troublesome part  to build a complete globe. 
   Is there an easier way to just fill-it with something so the missing 
  parts don't come out black? 

 Use the GIMP resynthesizer plug-in: http://registry.gimp.org/node/25219 
 If you have Photoshop, the context-aware fill may do the same thing but 
 I haven't tested that. 



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Is there an easier way to deal with the sky?

2012-05-23 Thread ecs1749
What does it mean by using Mask to fill-it?

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:11:43 PM UTC-7, Bruno Postle wrote:

 On Wed 23-May-2012 at 14:03 -0700, ecs1749 wrote: 
  The sky continues to be the troublesome part  to build a complete 
  globe.  Is there an easier way to just fill-it with something so 
  the missing parts don't come out black? 

 You can reuse bits of sky from photos in the panorama, see this mini 
 tutorial: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36383814@N00/6327106374 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Is there an easier way to deal with the sky?

2012-05-23 Thread ecs1749
I got it.  I see what you did there.

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:23:41 PM UTC-7, ecs1749 wrote:

 What does it mean by using Mask to fill-it?

 On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:11:43 PM UTC-7, Bruno Postle wrote:

 On Wed 23-May-2012 at 14:03 -0700, ecs1749 wrote: 
  The sky continues to be the troublesome part  to build a complete 
  globe.  Is there an easier way to just fill-it with something so 
  the missing parts don't come out black? 

 You can reuse bits of sky from photos in the panorama, see this mini 
 tutorial: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36383814@N00/6327106374 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Why doesn't Hugin create control points vertically (it seems)?

2012-05-23 Thread ecs1749
Ok, that does work better.  Thanks.

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:11:58 PM UTC-7, Bruno Postle wrote:

 On Wed 23-May-2012 at 09:53 -0700, ecs1749 wrote: 
  I took a series of 360 pictures by spinning first horizontally, 
  then tilt the camera upwards and take another revolution, with 
  overlaps between the two revolutions.  Hugin has no trouble 
  creating control points (plenty of them) to the horizontal 
  pictures.  However, there are no control points vertically. 

 The default is for Hugin to use the cpfind --multirow option for 
 control point generation.  Can you edit the Preferences for the 
 default control point detector, remove the '--mutirow' bit and see 
 if this makes any difference for you? 

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[hugin-ptx] What do I do now?

2012-05-22 Thread ecs1749
I took a bunch of pictures for a 360-180 shoot and processed through Hugin. 
 I got a nice looking globe in the Fast Panorama preview window.  Then I 
went through the control points and got the max error or distance to less 
than a 100.  Set projection to Sterescope and click Stitch.   After a 
while, I look at the directory and see a whole mess of files.  But now what 
do I do with all these files so that I can end*up with a Qtime VR of my 
Panorama?  There are a number of references but none of them tells me what 
my next step should be.*
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*Please help.*

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Re: [hugin-ptx] What do I do now?

2012-05-22 Thread ecs1749


On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:44:08 AM UTC-7, markku...@iki.fi wrote:

 22.5.2012 8:20, ecs1749 kirjoitti: 
  Set projection to Sterescope and click Stitch. 

 Do you mean Stereographic? You can't get full 360x180 degree field of 
 view in stereographic projection (the image would become infinite size) 
 and you should use Equirectangular output projection if you want to 
 convert into a Quicktime cube. 


Thanks for the reply.  Yes, I meant Stereographic. 


  After a while, I look at the directory and see a whole mess of 
  files. 

 There should be only one output file. A mess of files indicates that 
 stitching has failed due to some error. 


 I retried using Equirectangular and I ended up with a jpg, a bunch of tif 
files, exr, pgm files, and a message that the process is completed.

Now what do I do? 

 In previous tries, I would feed the jpg to Mathmap and create a projected 
picture of the front of the globe.  But what happened to the rest of the 
pictures (the ones on the back side of the globe)?
 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] What do I do now?

2012-05-22 Thread ecs1749
But once I get the output files, what do I do with them?  
http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/enfuse-360/en.shtml indicates there 
is a enfuse 360 program but I don't see that anywhere...


On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:42:43 PM UTC-7, Cartola wrote:

 You need to know what to choose as output in the Stitcher tab. To have 
 tif, exr and other files beside the equirectangular one you might have 
 checked many output formats. You only need to choose one output. Try one at 
 each time to see what they are. And you probably wont need any Remapped 
 images format by now.

 The default is a TIF file corresponding to the Exposure corrected, low 
 dynamic range. Try to let only this one checked at the Panorama Outputs.

 Cheers,

 Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
 http://cartola.org/360
 http://cartola.org/panoforum



 2012/5/22 ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com



 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:44:08 AM UTC-7, markku...@iki.fi wrote:

 22.5.2012 8:20, ecs1749 kirjoitti: 
  Set projection to Sterescope and click Stitch. 

 Do you mean Stereographic? You can't get full 360x180 degree field of 
 view in stereographic projection (the image would become infinite size) 
 and you should use Equirectangular output projection if you want to 
 convert into a Quicktime cube. 


 Thanks for the reply.  Yes, I meant Stereographic. 


  After a while, I look at the directory and see a whole mess of 
  files. 

 There should be only one output file. A mess of files indicates that 
 stitching has failed due to some error. 


  I retried using Equirectangular and I ended up with a jpg, a bunch of 
 tif files, exr, pgm files, and a message that the process is completed.

 Now what do I do? 

  In previous tries, I would feed the jpg to Mathmap and create a 
 projected picture of the front of the globe.  But what happened to the rest 
 of the pictures (the ones on the back side of the globe)?
  

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Re: [hugin-ptx] What do I do now?

2012-05-22 Thread ecs1749
So, that's the missing link!  I tried panocube and somehow it doesn't work 
for me but I looked around and found Pano2QTVR and that works.  I ran the 
jpg created by Hugin through Pano2QTVR which created a QTVR mov file for 
me.  Opened the mov file w Quicktime and viola!  a VR of my shots.

Thanks,

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:35:33 PM UTC-7, RizThon wrote:

 2012/5/23 ecs1749 ecs1...@gmail.com: 
  But once I get the output files, what do I do with them? 
   http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/enfuse-360/en.shtml indicates 
 there 
  is a enfuse 360 program but I don't see that anywhere... 

 To create QTVR I first create my 360x180 jpg image using hugin (if I 
 have a 360xless than 180 I add the necessary number of pixels at the 
 top and bottom so that the ratio is 2x1), then I use PanoCube 
 http://www.panoshow.com/panocube.htm 


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