Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Yuval Levy]

On November 23, 2010 03:26:51 pm Erik Krause wrote:
> What wiki instructions?

http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Trackers#Claim_an_Imported_SourceForge_Account


> If you have a wiki article discribing all this in more detail, please
> provide a link instead of giving incomplete instructions here...

it's all work in progress, no claim to be complete.  Still being adapted from 
the old instructions from the old tracker.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Bart van Andel]

On 23 nov, 20:45, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> On November 23, 2010 07:55:08 am Bart van Andel wrote:
> > 4. enter SF handle, e.g. "blabla...@users.sf.net"
>
> finds nearly nothing here.  when I enter only "@users.sourceforge.net" it 
> finds
> i-root-42 (which I guess was generated by the import process and the i stands
> for import)

My account is really someth...@users.sf.net, not
@users.sourceforge.net, but if I just use "@users.sf.net" (without
anything in front of the @), it does not find me. Ah, you know, it's
not that much of a problem. I know how to work around the issue, which
is by finding my own bug report.

> > "There's no person with the name or email address 'blablabla'."
>
> I get blablabla into the reporter field as well, and I see the error you mean.
>
> My guess is that the error message means that there is no LP account by that
> name.

I guess.

> > So, first it finds me, than it doesn't find me. This is not expected
> > behavior, is it? Or is it the result of the Hugin import from SF,
> > where handles are only partly copied? It reeks of a bug to me.
>
> I have not been even able to find you.  If this bugs you, you can file a bug
> report with LP, but for that you'll need an account :)

Hehheh. Indeed :)

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Erik Krause]

Am 23.11.2010 21:00, schrieb Yuval Levy:


If this was not clear enough from my wiki instructions, please update them.


What wiki instructions? I refer to your posting here. You write "Log on 
to the [https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin Hugin bug tracker]."


This could indeed indicate that I need a launchpad account, however, it 
was not stated explicitly. If it is self-evident nowadays to have a 
launchpad account I beg your pardon that I'm out of date.


If you have a wiki article discribing all this in more detail, please 
provide a link instead of giving incomplete instructions here...


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Yuval Levy]

On November 23, 2010 02:46:16 pm Erik Krause wrote:
> > Perhaps you were not logged in to launchpad?
> 
> Of course not. I wanted to claim my SF account. I thought this means
> that my SF account data is automatically transferred to LP and I simply
> need to confirm it using the outlined procedure...

you need to be logged on as an "LP person" to claim a "non LP person" account.  
Else LP does not know into which account to merge the non-account data.

If this was not clear enough from my wiki instructions, please update them.

Thanks
Yuv


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Erik Krause]

Am 23.11.2010 20:16, schrieb Andreas Metzler:

>>  * You will land on a pre-filled Merge LP accounts form. Hit the Continue
>>  button.

>  ...but the Merge LP account form isn't pre-filled. What does this mean?

Perhaps you were not logged in to launchpad?


Of course not. I wanted to claim my SF account. I thought this means 
that my SF account data is automatically transferred to LP and I simply 
need to confirm it using the outlined procedure...


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Yuval Levy]

On November 23, 2010 07:55:08 am Bart van Andel wrote:
> Ok, I'll clarify.
> 
> 1. go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin
> 2. enter "advanced search"
> 3. click "choose" next to the "reporter" field
> 4. enter SF handle, e.g. "blabla...@users.sf.net"

finds nearly nothing here.  when I enter only "@users.sourceforge.net" it finds 
i-root-42 (which I guess was generated by the import process and the i stands 
for import)

> 5. click the search icon
> 6. select the appropriate result by clicking it (if any)
> 7. the "reporter" field is now filled with a value, e.g. "blablabla"
> 8. now, hit the search button (or enter in any field)
> 
> You'd expect some results to show up, of maybe nothing at all, but I
> got this error below the "reporter" field:
> "There's no person with the name or email address 'blablabla'."

I get blablabla into the reporter field as well, and I see the error you mean.

My guess is that the error message means that there is no LP account by that 
name.  When browsing the tracker you can see the difference between the name of 
an LP account and an imported name in the (subtle) difference of the icon next 
to the name:  in full color for LP accounts and grayed out for imported "non-
persons".

 
> So, first it finds me, than it doesn't find me. This is not expected
> behavior, is it? Or is it the result of the Hugin import from SF,
> where handles are only partly copied? It reeks of a bug to me.

I have not been even able to find you.  If this bugs you, you can file a bug 
report with LP, but for that you'll need an account :)

Yuv


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Andreas Metzler]

Erik Krause  wrote:
> Am 22.11.2010 17:55, schrieb Yuval Levy:
>> * Make sure your SF account is in good standing and that you are receiving
>> emails at it.
>> * Log on to the [https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin  Hugin bug tracker].
>> * Find a ticket or comment that you filed in the old tracker (unfortunately
>> entering your old user handle in the search form does not seem to work).
>> * On the ticket page you should see your SF user name, clickable. Click on 
>> it.
>> * A standard page will display, saying that the user does not use LP and that
>> the page was created when importing bugs for Hugin.  There is a link on the
>> page asking if you are the user.  Hit the link.

> Works perfectly up to here...

>> * You will land on a pre-filled Merge LP accounts form. Hit the Continue
>> button.

> ...but the Merge LP account form isn't pre-filled. What does this mean?

Perhaps you were not logged in to launchpad?

cu and- worked for me -reas

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Erik Krause]

Am 22.11.2010 17:55, schrieb Yuval Levy:

* Make sure your SF account is in good standing and that you are receiving
emails at it.
* Log on to the [https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin  Hugin bug tracker].
* Find a ticket or comment that you filed in the old tracker (unfortunately
entering your old user handle in the search form does not seem to work).
* On the ticket page you should see your SF user name, clickable. Click on it.
* A standard page will display, saying that the user does not use LP and that
the page was created when importing bugs for Hugin.  There is a link on the
page asking if you are the user.  Hit the link.


Works perfectly up to here...


* You will land on a pre-filled Merge LP accounts form. Hit the Continue
button.


...but the Merge LP account form isn't pre-filled. What does this mean?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Bart van Andel]

> > Yes. Well this is quite strange. Actually in the advanced search page
> > there is a field for "reporter". I am able to find myself there using
> > the built-in search facility. The page shows my sf account name
> > (@users.sf.net) but it also says that no account using this name/
> > email can be found. However there *does* exist 1 bug with me as
> > reporter, and I have tracked it down. Weird. LP Bug?
>
> not sure that I understand your description, but it sounds more like a
> misunderstanding than a Bug.  LP has an icon next to the user / account name. 
>  
> Is it grayed out?  "no account using this name" means no *LP* account using
> this name.  The moment you'll claim this as your account, the icon will be
> colored and there will be an LP account using this name (or this name will be
> gone and will be merged with the name of the LP account you've merged into).
>
> I think the reason why searching for reporter does not work is because it
> search for an LP handle, not for an SF handle, and the imported SF
> "personalities" probably have some cryptic string as handle (which is
> different from the visible name) to avoid duplicates.

Ok, I'll clarify.

1. go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin
2. enter "advanced search"
3. click "choose" next to the "reporter" field
4. enter SF handle, e.g. "blabla...@users.sf.net"
5. click the search icon
6. select the appropriate result by clicking it (if any)
7. the "reporter" field is now filled with a value, e.g. "blablabla"
8. now, hit the search button (or enter in any field)

You'd expect some results to show up, of maybe nothing at all, but I
got this error below the "reporter" field:
"There's no person with the name or email address 'blablabla'."

So, first it finds me, than it doesn't find me. This is not expected
behavior, is it? Or is it the result of the Hugin import from SF,
where handles are only partly copied? It reeks of a bug to me.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[michael crane]

On Mon, November 22, 2010 10:44 pm, Yuval Levy wrote:
> On November 22, 2010 03:55:40 pm Bart van Andel wrote:
>> It's really a shame that Launchpad only implements the "provider" part
>> of the OpenID protocol, and not the "consumer" (relying party) part.
>
> yes.  I know from other sources that they are reviewing their whole
> sign-up /
> log-on architecture.  Since it is critical they don't want to make
> mistakes.
>
> Think for example of a spammer setting up an OpenID provider (plain
> simple,
> takes less than 10 minutes) and using it to generate tons of
> spam-accounts.
>
> They are experimenting with things and collecting data / observations of
> how
> users interact.  With such a large platform, they can't be as nimble as
> they
> would like to.
>
>
>> As long as I don't need the account, I'll wait
>
> Waiting is fine.  You'll need an account if you want to use the tracker,
> including voting for that issue to get fixed by hitting the "this bug
> affects
> me too" button ;-)
>
> Well, strictly speaking, the Hugin PPA team (binary builders, not to be
> confused with the development team, even if some people may be part of
> both)
> is using Launchpad and its build infrastructure (Soyuz) to build packages
> for
> Ubuntu Linux.  This is currently unfinished / incomplete job.
>
> There is a feature of that infrastructure which I would like to tap to
> produce
> "nightlies".  When everything works as advertised, LP can import the
> latest
> code from external repositories.  Provided with a "recipe" it can bake
> binaries automatically.  Think of it as on-demand builds of the bleeding
> edge.
> No manual intervention.  RAWstudio makes use of it and I get my nightlies
> as
> regular as the commit mails from heir (self hosted) SVN repo.
>
> I have two objectives for the Hugin PPA:
> 1. provide subscribers with the latest stable releases for all currently
> supported versions of Ubuntu;
> 2. and with the latest bleeding edge nightlies.
>
> Currently (1) is only partially implemented thanks to Philipp Seidel.
> Although there is a report that dependencies have not been specified too
> well

what is all this ?
are there maintainers for each distribution ? I guess they have some
headaches
"yum install hugin"

ah! cool it works
can somebody get a grip on this project so that people [2] can work with it ?

thanks

mimmik


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>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Yuval Levy]

On November 22, 2010 03:55:40 pm Bart van Andel wrote:
> It's really a shame that Launchpad only implements the "provider" part
> of the OpenID protocol, and not the "consumer" (relying party) part.

yes.  I know from other sources that they are reviewing their whole sign-up / 
log-on architecture.  Since it is critical they don't want to make mistakes.

Think for example of a spammer setting up an OpenID provider (plain simple, 
takes less than 10 minutes) and using it to generate tons of spam-accounts.

They are experimenting with things and collecting data / observations of how 
users interact.  With such a large platform, they can't be as nimble as they 
would like to.


> As long as I don't need the account, I'll wait

Waiting is fine.  You'll need an account if you want to use the tracker, 
including voting for that issue to get fixed by hitting the "this bug affects 
me too" button ;-)

Well, strictly speaking, the Hugin PPA team (binary builders, not to be 
confused with the development team, even if some people may be part of both) 
is using Launchpad and its build infrastructure (Soyuz) to build packages for 
Ubuntu Linux.  This is currently unfinished / incomplete job.

There is a feature of that infrastructure which I would like to tap to produce 
"nightlies".  When everything works as advertised, LP can import the latest 
code from external repositories.  Provided with a "recipe" it can bake 
binaries automatically.  Think of it as on-demand builds of the bleeding edge.  
No manual intervention.  RAWstudio makes use of it and I get my nightlies as 
regular as the commit mails from heir (self hosted) SVN repo.

I have two objectives for the Hugin PPA:
1. provide subscribers with the latest stable releases for all currently 
supported versions of Ubuntu;
2. and with the latest bleeding edge nightlies.

Currently (1) is only partially implemented thanks to Philipp Seidel.  
Although there is a report that dependencies have not been specified too well 
in the packages; and only Lucid and Maverick are currently supported.

The nightly requires the import from external SCM to work.  I've never seen an 
import of a Mercurial repo working and  recently the SVN import broke.  You 
can see the status of that bug at [0].  Once it is fixed, I'll look at writing 
the "recipe" for making use of it to produce binaries on a regular basis.

Lukas suggested also that we have a look at the OpenSuse build infrastructure.  
They may have something similar.  Anybody familiar with OpenSuse here cares to 
look?


> > * Find a ticket or comment that you filed in the old tracker
> > (unfortunately entering your old user handle in the search form does not
> > seem to work).
> 
> Yes. Well this is quite strange. Actually in the advanced search page
> there is a field for "reporter". I am able to find myself

see, I am not an advanced user :-)  I stuck with the simple search on the main 
page.  Will add the advanced search hint to the instructions.


> there using
> the built-in search facility. The page shows my sf account name
> (@users.sf.net) but it also says that no account using this name/
> email can be found. However there *does* exist 1 bug with me as
> reporter, and I have tracked it down. Weird. LP Bug?

not sure that I understand your description, but it sounds more like a 
misunderstanding than a Bug.  LP has an icon next to the user / account name.  
Is it grayed out?  "no account using this name" means no *LP* account using 
this name.  The moment you'll claim this as your account, the icon will be 
colored and there will be an LP account using this name (or this name will be 
gone and will be merged with the name of the LP account you've merged into).

I think the reason why searching for reporter does not work is because it 
search for an LP handle, not for an SF handle, and the imported SF 
"personalities" probably have some cryptic string as handle (which is 
different from the visible name) to avoid duplicates.

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Claiming an SF account in LP

[Bart van Andel]

It's really a shame that Launchpad only implements the "provider" part
of the OpenID protocol, and not the "consumer" (relying party) part.
As long as I don't need the account, I'll wait for a reply to the
thread concerning this issue at LP [0], which has been hanging around
since April 2008. Yuv has already replied to this thread expressing
his concerns about it, thanks for that. Let's hope something is on the
way.

On 22 nov, 17:55, Yuval Levy  wrote:
[...]
> * Find a ticket or comment that you filed in the old tracker (unfortunately
> entering your old user handle in the search form does not seem to work).

Yes. Well this is quite strange. Actually in the advanced search page
there is a field for "reporter". I am able to find myself there using
the built-in search facility. The page shows my sf account name
(@users.sf.net) but it also says that no account using this name/
email can be found. However there *does* exist 1 bug with me as
reporter, and I have tracked it down. Weird. LP Bug?

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