RE : Re: BPXBATCH utility, how to access to PDS member ?

2007-09-11 Thread pat pat
I have add a STDENV in my JCL and i use the BPXBASTL utility 

//RUNSHELL EXEC PGM=BPXBATSL,
//  PARM='PGM /u/zcwk'   
//STDOUT DD PATH='/u/resul', 
// PATHOPTS=(OCREAT,OTRUNC,OWRONLY)  
//STDENV DD *
 _CEE_RUNOPTS=POSIX(ON)  
//SYSPRM DD DSN=ADCDB.PDS.PARMLIB(CMDPRM00),DISP=SHR 
//*  
//SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   

My source code ( C code) to open the member
FILE *fparm;
fparm = fopen(dd:SYSPRM,r); 


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Re: Running with SQA/ESQA 100% CHECK

2007-09-11 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
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om...
 Sam makes a good point. If we report on usage above 100% we should
allow
 you to
 specify a value  100%.
 Regarding Barbara's points about the ASM and XCF checks,, We will
check
 into
 them (again, I presume). The ASM check intentionally is designed on an
 individual data set basis. And that is why adding an additional data
set
 has no
 bearing on the exception. 

Peter,

I had the old HC under SA installed, but found it hardly useful, so I
was happy to read the announcement in 1.7 (I think) that it had been
improved a lot, but now it appears not to be at its final goal, so I
hope user comments will be handled seriously.

About your answer above: why do you check a single PGDS utilization? I
think it hardly hirts when one PGDS is over some limit if the total
configuration is within limit? If I remember correctly what Greg Dyke
explained about PGDS selection queues and groups when discussing PGDSs
on different devicetypes, the overutilized one will not be selected
anymore, because of the smaller chance of finding enough contigious
slots. So if the rest of the pageconfiguration is well behaving, there
is in fact no problem to report on. Besides that, the question is what
we can do about it, as Barbara already mentioned.

And do I understand it correctly that you don't check the utilization of
the entire pageconfiguration? I think that is the most important item. I
just noticed this week that an extra message IRA205I has been added to
notify if the Pageconfiguration is 50% full. ASM is always issuing
messages about the utilization of the total pageconfiguration, so I
assume that is the most important thing to monitor.

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Re: 1401 simulator for OS/360

2007-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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There was, in the conventional sense and on the majority of systems, no
console. 

Of course there was a console; don't confuse a console with a
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Re: DLSw Test Program? (Was OSA-Express2 and SNA Pcomm - loss of connectivity)

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Timothy

Thanks for the information.

Please see my response to Andrew.

Chris Mason

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OS2PING is very handy indeed.  (There's also OS/2's NETPING, which does
much the same for NetBIOS connections.)  You could boot into OS/2 and run
this command.  OS2PING (and NETPING) are not installed automatically, but
you can find them contained in the MPTSAPLT.ZIP file.  This file is located
somewhere within the MPTS (Multiprotocol Transport Services) feature of
OS/2.  Simply unzip what you need.  I would imagine today's modern
eComStation still has this, and conceivably you could make a bootable CD to
run it.

I've found a not-quite-as-handy Linux substitute, described here:

http://www.gcom.com/linux/lis/cmds.html#ldltest

See the second ldltest example for the relevant syntax.  Likewise, you may
be able to use this from a bootable Linux CD and thus make it a
near-universal troubleshooting tool from a particular workstation.

I haven't found a real equivalent for Windows, but perhaps someone else has
an idea.

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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread John Eells

George Dranes wrote:
We just recently installed z/OS 1.8 using ServerPac.  We then applied all of 
the latest RSU maintenance.  I noticed many of the SYS1 datasets on our 
SYSRES apparently were allocated too small by ServerPac jobs.  I know some 
may just need compressed but others such as SYS1.SHASLNKE which is a 
PDSE is also into 5 extents.  My question is, does anyone out there try to get 
these allocated into one extent or do you just leave as is and not worry about 
it because of today's DASD??  It just gets kind of irritating when many of 
these datasets are obviously allocated (in blocks even) too small by the 
ServerPac allocate jobs.

snip

You can and should tell SMP/E to retry after space abends so that it 
will compress the data sets and try again.


Also, you can quickly and easily increase the primary space allocations 
of all the data sets at installation time by using View and Change to 
display a list of all data sets (e.g., display Link List Eligible and 
select both Yes and No) and issuing the CH SPACE command.  Now, of 
course, it's too late, but you might bear this in mind next time.


I always viewed the choice of primary space allocation as one of 
balancing customer complaints about too much with customer complaints 
about not enough.  But some time has gone by since I worked in 
ServerPac-land and perhaps the landscape has changed.  The too much 
group has been pretty quiet, since we have been trying to minimize the 
required space for quite a while, and lately we seem to be hearing more 
from the not enough group.


So...at this point in time, with DASD cost being what it is, volume 
sizes being what they are, and sysprog time being at whatever the 
currently prevailing premium might be, should we:


a) Leave things as they are.  This means that ServerPac allocations will 
continue to be minimized while making sure the libraries will have 
enough space to be loaded plus enough extra space to allow for (some) 
corrective service installation.  This minimizes the DASD space required 
to install z/OS.


b) Increase the primary space allocations.  This will allow for the 
installation of preventive service (and the odd small product or two) 
without requiring data set reallocation.  However, in many cases it will 
require an extra DASD volume or two for initial installation.


No promises that we'll actually change anything, of course, but I'm curious.

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Re: How would you read a report?

2007-09-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:43:53 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote:

I think I'd write a REXX routine and call it from COBOL.

You'd code 10,000 lines of COBOL to emulate what PARSE is capable of doing
off-the-shelf.

10,000 lines?  I don't think so.  I'm sure your ReXX skills far surpass mine, 
but I 
think I could process any report in COBOL in far less than 10,000 lines of code.

The OP specifically asked about doing it in COBOL.  He didn't describe the 
format of the report or why he thought it should be copied to a different 
format.  Thus we can only guess what kind of code would be good to process 
it.  If, for example, the report is in a fixed tabular form, COBOL might be a 
good choice.

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Re: Control Program of OS/360 reel tape

2007-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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   at 09:36 AM, Andreas F. Geissbuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

In 1964 mag tapes had an iron oxide layer on a mylar backing, perhaps 200
or as much as 556 bpi.

ITYM 800 BPI for normal installation, and higher densities for those that
could afford it. Anybody remember when the 800 BPI 729 came out?
 
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Re: DLSw Test Program? (Was OSA-Express2 and SNA Pcomm - loss of connectivity)

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Andrew

Thank you for the kind offer.

I was seeking such a program out because it seemed like such a tool would be 
handy in helping another contributor, Sheila Weissborn, with an apparently 
DLSw problem she was reporting.


Having been reminded that DLSw owes a lot to Cisco, I might expect Cisco to 
offer such a test program.


Chris Mason

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Hi Chris,

There is (was?) a Microsoft utility called DLCPing. I think it was 
included

on the CD-ROM in Microsoft's HIS 2000 Resource Kit (long out of print, and
now very difficult to obtain). DLCPing is also occasionally given to
customers by Microsoft PSS, to use in troubleshooting SNA connectivity
problems. As far as I know, DLCPing is licensed software and not freely
distributable; I suspect some of the code was licensed from a well-known
third party vendor of SNA software (who is not IBM). Otherwise I'd email 
you

a copy. But if you can track down a copy of the old HIS 2000 Resource Kit,
you might find a copy of DLCPing to use.

Regards,

Andrew McLaren
Sydney, Australia


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Re: JES2 Exits and SMP/E

2007-09-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:01:49 -0500, George Dranes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We only use 2 exits in JES2 so I've always just re-assembled these after
maintenance has been applied.  I was wondering if anyone has an easy way of
using SMP/E to apply these if maintenance changes the JES2 macros?  I'm just
not real handy creating usermods.  The 2 exits we use are HASX01B and
HASX15A.  Thanks for any help!


Not really a usermod - UCLIN.   There is a good sample that you used to have
to manually run for SDSF, but these days it comes installed with your 
ServerPac.

See hlq.SISFJCL(ISFZZUCL) 

If you just want to be warned and manually assemble your exits (in case
the are not SMP/E controlled or otherwise), instead of GENASM, just 
add a UMID with UCLIN.  For example:

ADD MAC($JQE)  UMID(UM12345).   

Then when you are warned, run UCLIN to delete the UMID, apply your
maintenance, and then add the UMID back (and of course reassemble
your exits).

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Re: 1401 simulator for OS/360

2007-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
09/10/2007
   at 07:45 AM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Reduced to its essence, a computer is nothing more than a vast array of
switches and a clock.

Clock? We don't need no stinking clock. Google for Philco.
 
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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread Ed Gould

On Sep 10, 2007, at 5:49 PM, George Dranes wrote:

We just recently installed z/OS 1.8 using ServerPac.  We then  
applied all of
the latest RSU maintenance.  I noticed many of the SYS1 datasets on  
our
SYSRES apparently were allocated too small by ServerPac jobs.  I  
know some

may just need compressed but others such as SYS1.SHASLNKE which is a
PDSE is also into 5 extents.  My question is, does anyone out there  
try to get
these allocated into one extent or do you just leave as is and not  
worry about
it because of today's DASD??  It just gets kind of irritating when  
many of
these datasets are obviously allocated (in blocks even) too small  
by the

ServerPac allocate jobs.


George,

This has been a problem area since I started sysproging 25+ years  
ago, so its not necessarily a SERVPAC issue. I run the apply with  
compress(all) and then after all the applies are done I look through  
a fileaid 3.7 and do a sort on extents. Then I reallocate and copy  
any dataset that is in 2 or more extents. Is this needed? Its more or  
less a personal neatness thing. If the library is in the linklst  
IMO it is definitely needed if not probably not but I do it so if  
there is an emergency ptf or apar that needs to go on and I don't  
need an IPL I don't need to schedule one. I like to see extra room in  
almost any dataset that is a heavy hitter when it comes to maint.  
that way I know (or with good amount of certainty ) that an IPL won't  
be needed.


You learn after years what library(ies) will probably be hit most  
often and give those an extra empty space. PDSe libraries are more  
difficult but should be treated no differently, IMO.


You could probably do the above with FDR but I find I have a better  
feel for which libraries need the expansion breathing space.


Ed

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Re: Running with SQA/ESQA 100% CHECK

2007-09-11 Thread Barbara Nitz
Walt,
my racfadmi is very happy with the cc12 of that check! He used to do this 
checking once a month himself and then give out lists on who had to do cleanup. 
So now it comes a lot earlier and he can tell people a lot earlier to clean up.

Peter,
I'll send you a private email to detail a few more points.
XCF: With regard to the check I have mentioned: Either IBM gets the CFSIZER 
that we are supposed to use for sizing the structures to play along the same 
lines as the health checker or IBM gets the health checker to accept the values 
from the cfsizer, but not two different things! I still consider the fact that 
XCF itself changed the structure in such a way that it did NOT support full 
signalling connectivity anymore a definite bug, not something 'within the parms 
of the health checker'. But I have spent too much time already reporting what I 
consider issues to waste even more time on that. These days, I go with what the 
cfsizer tells me is full connectivity, and then I just delete the check.

As for the number of IPLs, a few had to do with XCF and the stupid counting 
mechanisms that trigger the checks, and once I got one cleaned up to satisfy 
the numbers, another check pops up that was quiet before. In one case one of 
the RSM checks (one of those governed by a parm in ieasys - rsu or v=r or 
something only changeable via IPL) tripped or rather was seen for the first 
time. The colleague who saw it didn't realize that this was 'just' a health 
check message and would not impact the running system at all. He got called at 
oh:drak:30, didn't know what to do and did not change the ieasys parm. He just 
ordered an IPL done. Of course, the problem was still there afterwards. (Oh 
yes, this was a production system.) I had a devil of a time explaining what had 
happened, and of course, another IPL was needed to do the final cleanup that 
may have been done during a normal, planned IPL. All this because the health 
checker spit out a message.

You said Therefore I conclude that you did agree with the messages, and 
however many IPLs it took you was what it took for you to get your system to 
the state it needed to be. I don't agree with that. As I said, I wanted to 
take advantage of a few checks (you call that Deleting or deactivating a check 
is less desirable than having it remain active, but active while checking for 
your case (which has the side benefit of alerting you if your case is 
unintentionally changed)., but I am unable to get them to work at all (so that 
I can take advantage of them) in our environment. And I do NOT think that we 
don't follow 'best practises', we just don't do it in the rigid confines the 
health checker demands.

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Re: The future of IBM Mainframes [just thinking]

2007-09-11 Thread Jon Brock
Here's one that I remember reading a while back:
http://www.cio.com/article/131500/Eight_of_the_Worst_Spreadsheet_Blunder
s

The article itself even has an amusing error in blunder #3, entitled
Fannie Mae Discovers $1.3 Billion Honest Mistake.  They quote from PC
World:

'Fannie Mae, which finances home mortgages, stated in a news release of
third-quarter financials that it had discovered a $1.136 billion error
in total shareholder equity. Jayne Shontell, Fannie Mae senior vice
president for investor relations, explained in a written statement,
There were honest mistakes made in a spreadsheet used in the
implementation of a new accounting standard.'

1.136 = 1.3?

Jon


snip
I've seen many a non-programming type (secretaries, VP's, accountants,
and other usual suspects) build spreadsheets and assume, that because
they typed it in, the figures were accurate.

Not learning any programming discipline, they never learned to check for
boundary conditions, cross-checking of rows vs columns, etc.

I've seen corporate reports with tables with !#DIV/0 in the final
product.

I wish I could still find a copy of an article, from last year, that
stated most re-statements of earnings were due to people without the
discipline just dumping data into a spread sheet (without checking).
/snip

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SMS vs. GDG Model DSCB

2007-09-11 Thread Rugen, Len
We have had selective TMM implemented for a few years, now I've ran into
a job where I can't seem to get the datasets redirected away from tape
to the TMM pool.  The error is the infamous IEF344I / IGD17045I space
not specified.  The ACS test works, but one thing is bugging me, I can't
find how to feed the model DSCB for the gdg into the test.  Someone ages
ago setup a model GDG that almost everything uses, but this job uses a
different one.  I've found references on Google that say that the model
DSCB can't be on sms disk, but both my working and failing ones are on
SMS volumes.  The do have slightly different SMS values.  

 

Is it possible that a model DSCB's management class is being passed on
to the new allocation?  I think that would break my TMM flow in the ACS
routines?  

 

 


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Re: CICS Priority Question

2007-09-11 Thread Rugen, Len
There are no easy answers.  Priority doesn't matter as much as resource 
consumption.  If the high priority task isn't using resources, the it isn't the 
problem.  
 
However, without checking, I think that is a web server.  Is it a CICS web 
frontend?  If so, then it is essential to your CICS transactions.  Is it an 
efficient frontend?  We can't answer that.  
 
Several years ago, even though we had some CICS response time problems and not 
enough capacity, I converted to WLM and response time goals.  I set some pretty 
aggressive goals, again without checking, I think 95% of all transactions under 
.5 seconds.  Even then, we were meeting those goals.  We have 80% trivial 
transactions and 20% that are resource intensive.  Everything is the same 
transid, so I can't determine before hand which transaztions are loved ones 
and which aren't.  
 
My actual dispatching priority of the CICS regions went DOWN under WLM, but the 
goals were being met.  When the huge transactions run for 60-90 seconds so be 
it.  I presnt the cost of the upgrades needed to resolve the issue and let the 
business case support itself.  
 
I have limited resources, WLM lets me set goals and importance.  If management 
says everything is important, then they are supporting unlimited upgrades.  
They can't have it both ways.  
 
Management always thought CPU was the solution.  Even our huge, 90 second 
transactions used a trivial amount of CPU.  I argued that even if the CPU 
component was 0 they wouldn't like the response time.  The solution?  Better 
DASD, (Shark ESS), more RAM for IMS DBCTL buffers and offloading TN3270 SSL.  
 
Sounds like you have one of those opportunities that can be painful.  



From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Sergio Lima
Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 7:41 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: CICS Priority Question



Hello,
  Last week, We have some problems here with our environment.
We have here a lot of transaction ONline, and have a STC here that have more 
priority than CICS.
We don't understand very well, but this STC execute a BPXTCAFF, and a IMWHTTPD  
program, and looks like a OMVS System.
This STC have a high priority under CICS, but the question are, It's really 
necessary ?
We understand, that CICS must have a good priority, and for this reason, We 
need know, if someone know about this, and if no problem, give to CICS more 
priority.
  Thanks for now !
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Caixa Economica Federal
Sao Paulo - Brazil

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Tr: RE : Re: BPXBATCH utility, how to access to PDS member ?

2007-09-11 Thread pat pat
pat pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:38:34 +0200 
(CEST)
De: pat pat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet: RE : Re: BPXBATCH utility, how to access to PDS member ?
À: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

 I have add a STDENV in my JCL and i use the BPXBASTL utility 

//RUNSHELL EXEC PGM=BPXBATSL,
//  PARM='PGM /u/zcwk'   
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Re: meaasge OPS3731E

2007-09-11 Thread James Robinson
That is a CA/OPS-MVS message indicating a missing resource. 

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Re: meaasge OPS3731E

2007-09-11 Thread Patrick . Falcone
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Re: meaasge OPS3731E

2007-09-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
I don't know the manual title, but it sure looks like an OPS/MVS-II
message to me.

Regards,
Steve Thompson 

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Re: COMMAND SHELL PROGRAMMING.

2007-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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Most of the emulators I used IND$FILE with had no problem functioning 
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I vaguely recall that there were profile issues. Like others on this list,
IND$FILE is pretty much of a last resort for me; I'll use FTP or WSA
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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:49:56 -0500, George Dranes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We just recently installed z/OS 1.8 using ServerPac.  We then applied all of
the latest RSU maintenance.  I noticed many of the SYS1 datasets on our
SYSRES apparently were allocated too small by ServerPac jobs.  I know some
may just need compressed but others such as SYS1.SHASLNKE which is a
PDSE is also into 5 extents.  My question is, does anyone out there try to get
these allocated into one extent or do you just leave as is and not worry about
it because of today's DASD??  It just gets kind of irritating when many of
these datasets are obviously allocated (in blocks even) too small by the
ServerPac allocate jobs.



The extents aren't a performance issue, but they do matter for the LNKLST
extent limit.  In the case if SHASLNKE it is no concern at all since PDSE
counts as one extent.  

It bothered me a little the first couple of times I did maintenance for 1.8
(and previous ServerPacs) but its a minor irritation.  It's a fine line for IBM
trying to keep the sysres to fit on a 3390-3 (not including HFS  - because many 
shops still don't have mod-9) and leaving some extra space.  Also, I would
guess based on some of my own experience with some of the libraries I ran
into problems with, that even if they left say 20% free space, the link of a 
large module that is part of that library/product from a single PTF causes
a problem.  So I guess IBM could do a little better job at looking at that and
for those exceptions leave more free space as distributed.  Just look at the
size of ISFVTBL in SISFLOAD (a library I always end up expanding after
my first round of maintenance).

Another thing you can do easily now is filter the data sets by LNKLST eligible
and set all of them to no secondary space.

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Re: JES-APPL

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Ron

Just going on the message sequence

IST663I  INIT OTHER REQUEST   FAILED  , SENSE=083A0002
IST664I  REAL  OLU=AGFNET.AGFEIREAL  DLU=AGFNET.N02TCE20
IST889I  SID = EE93F7C97FD4F39D
IST264I  REQUIRED RESOURCE  N02TCE20 DISABLED
IST314I  END

it is very clear that a link connection has been successfully established. 
Then there has been a session initiation request - which can only happen 
over an available session path - this isn't any of your flaky IP, folks! The 
session initiation request has failed because the destination and secondary 
LU is not in an enabled state. The LU has been activated but the ACTLU 
response has a code which indicates disabled state.


One reasonable explanation might be that the program running the NJE 
function in the AS/400 hasn't completed starting up.


-

The explanation of the sense code 083A0002 is as follows:

quote

Sense code 083A

LU not enabled: At the time an LU-LU session initiation request is received 
at the SSCP, at least one of the two LUs, though having an active session 
with its SSCP, is not ready to accept CINIT or BIND requests.


Bytes 2 and 3 following the sense code contain sense-code-specific 
information.


...
0002 The SLU is not enabled.

/quote

-

Just to be complete, I even checked the JES2 message. Here are the results - 
it's the last of the 15 £HASP094 messages by the way and LookAt! just gives 
you the first which is useless:


17 - it's an OPNDST request, in other words, a session setup is being 
attempted
14 - means that JES2 is trying, in its words, not VTAM's, a connection 
sequence

1002 - is the RTNCD-FDBK2 combination

short explanation: Logical unit inhibited for sessions
longer explanation: You attempted to initiate a session and one of the 
logical units in the requested session is inhibited.


The remaining codes are of no particular interest, except the LU name at the 
end, of course.


Now this discussion started by claiming that an LU name needed changing. How 
might that relate to the disabled secondary LU?


Incidentally it would be quite incorrect to say there is nothing wrong with 
the switched definition but it works so what is wrong with it[1] is 
incidental to the reported problem.


Looking over a bit of confusion in previous posts - I hope I'll be excused 
characterising them so - I can make the following comments:


1. Unless the NJE application on the AS/400 has consistently been caught in 
the middle of being activated in some way - highly unlikely I would expect - 
this is not a timing problem.


2. Since the connection is necessarily in place, there is no problem with 
the connection - just in case a modem is involved - which, given a 
switched definition is used, is not impossible, but unlikely.


3. I'm not sure what online might mean. The messages tell us that the 
secondary LU is *active*, only it is not *enabled*.


4. Which side a connection is started affects the types of definitions used 
for the connection, strictly the definition of the adjacent link station, in 
the two platforms. However, since it is clear from the messages that a 
connection has been established, this is a red herring.


5. The recollection of multiple LUs may have been RJE rather than NJE. For 
example, if the AS/400 running RJE emulated a 3776 or 3777 MLU model, 
multiple LUs would have been involved. An NJE connection between JES2 and 
JES2, RSCS and RSCS and JES2 and RSCS required only one LU at either side. 
Although I'm not familiar with the AS/400 implementation of NJE, I would not 
expect the requirement to be different.


The possibility that there might be a suitable redbook was mentioned - 
thanks, Mark.


Going to the redbook site and searching with AS/400 and NJE gets 3 hits. 
The first AS/400 VM/MVS Bridge Configuration and Operations, GG24-4382-00, 
is the best since it involves MVS although NJE does not actually appear in 
the title. The second does have NJE in the title but involves POWER. Both 
redbooks are quite small and download in a jiffy.


Given the extensive definitions present - a little bit woolly on the VTAM 
side and involving antique configuration features such as NCP, 
nevertheless - this should be adequate.


I happened to notice that the Start QSNADS Subsystem (STRSBS QSNADS) 
command on the AS/400 side causes a NOTIFY request to flow from the 
secondary LU to the SSCP with the information that the secondary LU has 
entered the *enabled* state. Perhaps it is this command which needs to be 
entered.


Incidentally, I see that vary on is an AS/400 thing in the context of 
SNA entities so maybe Ed wasn't all that far off the mark - hum, no pun 
intended. g


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[1] C02TCED PU IDBLK=056,
  IDNUM=ADAF0,
  IRETRY=YES,
  MAXDATA=4105,
  MAXPATH=1,
  ISTATUS=ACTIVE,
  MAXOUT=7,
  PASSLIM=7,
  PUTYPE=2,
  DISCNT=NO,
  MODETAB=LOGMLU62,DLOGMOD=LOGMLU62,
  

meaasge OPS3731E

2007-09-11 Thread Jim McAlpine
Anyone recognise the above message and could provide the explanation from
whatever FM it emanates from.

Jim McAlpine

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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread Ken Porowski
There is a way in the ServerPac dialogs to globally alter the space
allocations.  I usually add 25-50% to the allocations.  After my initial
load of the datasets I compress all then reallocate as needed to minimum
50% free in a single extent.  This is probably not needed but I like all
my system datasets and anything in LINKLIST or LPALIST to be at least
50% free in one extent.  I do not really worry if they are allocated
with secondary as long as I'm not using it although for OEM LINKLIST I
will allocate zero secondary.

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-Original Message-
George Dranes

We just recently installed z/OS 1.8 using ServerPac.  We then applied
all of the latest RSU maintenance.  I noticed many of the SYS1 datasets
on our SYSRES apparently were allocated too small by ServerPac jobs.  I
know some may just need compressed but others such as SYS1.SHASLNKE
which is a PDSE is also into 5 extents.  My question is, does anyone out
there try to get these allocated into one extent or do you just leave as
is and not worry about it because of today's DASD??  It just gets kind
of irritating when many of these datasets are obviously allocated (in
blocks even) too small by the ServerPac allocate jobs.

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Re: meaasge OPS3731E

2007-09-11 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 9/11/07, James Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That is a CA/OPS-MVS message indicating a missing resource.


Are you able to supply the message description/text from the manual.

Jim McAlpine

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Java and classic MVS files

2007-09-11 Thread Steven Conway
One of our developers is asking me if he can run Java programs with 
classic MVS files (sequential and VSAM) as input and output.  To date, our 
programmers have written files to the file system, manipulated them, 
written back to classic MVS file structures.

I tried searching the group history via Google groups, and got either way 
too many hits on a generic search or nothing on a specific search. 
Obviously, my Google-foo is weak.

I'm buried in hardware planning and would appreciate a reference, if 
anyone knows this is doable.  Or a reference if you know it is not. 

Thanks.


Cheers,,,Steve

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Re: meaasge OPS3731E

2007-09-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:45:42 +0100 Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:Anyone recognise the above message and could provide the explanation from
:whatever FM it emanates from.

OPS/MVS.

Currently owned by CA, Superior Software by Acquisition.

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Re: Java and classic MVS files

2007-09-11 Thread McKown, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:58 AM
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 Subject: Java and classic MVS files
 
 
 One of our developers is asking me if he can run Java programs with 
 classic MVS files (sequential and VSAM) as input and output.  
 To date, our 
 programmers have written files to the file system, manipulated them, 
 written back to classic MVS file structures.
 
 I tried searching the group history via Google groups, and 
 got either way 
 too many hits on a generic search or nothing on a specific search. 
 Obviously, my Google-foo is weak.
 
 I'm buried in hardware planning and would appreciate a reference, if 
 anyone knows this is doable.  Or a reference if you know it is not. 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Cheers,,,Steve
 

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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Dranes
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 5:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

We just recently installed z/OS 1.8 using ServerPac.  We then applied
all of the latest RSU maintenance.  I noticed many of the SYS1 datasets
on our SYSRES apparently were allocated too small by ServerPac jobs.  I
know some may just need compressed but others such as SYS1.SHASLNKE
which is a PDSE is also into 5 extents.  My question is, does anyone out
there try to get these allocated into one extent or do you just leave as
is and not worry about it because of today's DASD??  It just gets kind
of irritating when many of these datasets are obviously allocated (in
blocks even) too small by the ServerPac allocate jobs.
SNIP

It is my opinion that the ServerPac building people are using older
logic and have not updated it. After all, it ain't broke, so it won't
get fixed. This is why when I do ServerPac installs, I spend time on the
allocations. Which is also how I found errors in their logic -- they
assumed volumes would be SMS managed using the first two characters of
the VOLSER!!

So, no you are not alone.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: meaasge OPS3731E

2007-09-11 Thread McKown, John
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 Anyone recognise the above message and could provide the 
 explanation from
 whatever FM it emanates from.
 
 Jim McAlpine
 

CA-OPS/MVS 

quote
OPS3731E  table.name NOT FOUND

   Modifiable:  NO 

   Explanation:  A STATESET command specified a table name and/or
resource name that could not be found in an RDF table.

   Action:, Verify that the table name and resource name are valid using
OPSQL commands or the RDF table editor. If only a resource name was
specified, then verify that the table name appears in the resource
directory table for System State Manager. Use STATETBL to add the
table, if necessary.

The variable fields of the message text are:

   table   The resource table name 

   nameThe resource row name
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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread John Eells

(Re-post to the list.  For NNTP users, sorry for the duplicate.)

Thompson, Steve wrote:

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of George Dranes
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 5:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

We just recently installed z/OS 1.8 using ServerPac.  We then applied
all of the latest RSU maintenance.  I noticed many of the SYS1 datasets
on our SYSRES apparently were allocated too small by ServerPac jobs.  I
know some may just need compressed but others such as SYS1.SHASLNKE
which is a PDSE is also into 5 extents.  My question is, does anyone out
there try to get these allocated into one extent or do you just leave as
is and not worry about it because of today's DASD??  It just gets kind
of irritating when many of these datasets are obviously allocated (in
blocks even) too small by the ServerPac allocate jobs.
SNIP

It is my opinion that the ServerPac building people are using older
logic and have not updated it. After all, it ain't broke, so it won't
get fixed. This is why when I do ServerPac installs, I spend time on the
allocations. Which is also how I found errors in their logic -- they
assumed volumes would be SMS managed using the first two characters of
the VOLSER!!

snip

The data set space allocations are not the result of a logic problem. 
The logic is WAD (or BAD, if you prefer).  As I said before, the 
allocations are intended to make sure the RESTORE job runs and that the 
resulting data sets have *some* free space.


Also, the installation dialog does not assume that volumes are 
SMS-managed based on volume serial.  Instead, it uses a logical volume 
serial (not to be confused with the actual physical volume serial) to 
identify SMS-managed and non-SMS-managed data sets.  Logical volumes are 
really just tags to identify groups of data sets.


I always wanted to get rid of logical volumes (or at least their 
displays) but there wasn't an opportunity to do so while I was there, 
and as you can see we haven't gotten to it yet.  Since the term confuses 
so many people, if I could go back in time, I'd name them something else 
(data set group name, perhaps).


Last, if you are spending a lot of time on data set allocation 
adjustments, you should look at using the CH SPACE command in the View 
and Change option of Modify System Layout.


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Re: CICS Priority Question

2007-09-11 Thread Sergio Lima
Len,
   
  First, thanks for your help.
  You are correct, the task that was mentioned, is a web server, but,
  We don't use this for CICS Web frontend.
  The problem, sound like, the users do something, that acess the DB2 directly, 
and sometime, We can see one, two, three user's doing it.
  In this moment, the task of Web Server have more use of CPU% like show on D A 
command, and in this time, our command DA show CPU with 100% of utilization, 
and start problem to CICS transaction.
  I'm not expert under WLM, but will try speak with this people here.
   
  Thanks very much
   
  Sergio
Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  There are no easy answers. Priority doesn't matter as much as resource 
consumption. If the high priority task isn't using resources, the it isn't the 
problem. 

However, without checking, I think that is a web server. Is it a CICS web 
frontend? If so, then it is essential to your CICS transactions. Is it an 
efficient frontend? We can't answer that. 

Several years ago, even though we had some CICS response time problems and not 
enough capacity, I converted to WLM and response time goals. I set some pretty 
aggressive goals, again without checking, I think 95% of all transactions under 
.5 seconds. Even then, we were meeting those goals. We have 80% trivial 
transactions and 20% that are resource intensive. Everything is the same 
transid, so I can't determine before hand which transaztions are loved ones 
and which aren't. 

My actual dispatching priority of the CICS regions went DOWN under WLM, but the 
goals were being met. When the huge transactions run for 60-90 seconds so be 
it. I presnt the cost of the upgrades needed to resolve the issue and let the 
business case support itself. 

I have limited resources, WLM lets me set goals and importance. If management 
says everything is important, then they are supporting unlimited upgrades. 
They can't have it both ways. 

Management always thought CPU was the solution. Even our huge, 90 second 
transactions used a trivial amount of CPU. I argued that even if the CPU 
component was 0 they wouldn't like the response time. The solution? Better 
DASD, (Shark ESS), more RAM for IMS DBCTL buffers and offloading TN3270 SSL. 

Sounds like you have one of those opportunities that can be painful. 



From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Sergio Lima
Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 7:41 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: CICS Priority Question



Hello,
Last week, We have some problems here with our environment.
We have here a lot of transaction ONline, and have a STC here that have more 
priority than CICS.
We don't understand very well, but this STC execute a BPXTCAFF, and a IMWHTTPD 
program, and looks like a OMVS System.
This STC have a high priority under CICS, but the question are, It's really 
necessary ?
We understand, that CICS must have a good priority, and for this reason, We 
need know, if someone know about this, and if no problem, give to CICS more 
priority.
Thanks for now !
Sergio Lima Costa
Caixa Economica Federal
Sao Paulo - Brazil

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Re: SMS vs. GDG Model DSCB

2007-09-11 Thread John Kington
Len,

 We have had selective TMM implemented for a few years, now I've ran into
 a job where I can't seem to get the datasets redirected away from tape
 to the TMM pool.  The error is the infamous IEF344I / IGD17045I space
 not specified.  The ACS test works, but one thing is bugging me, I can't
 find how to feed the model DSCB for the gdg into the test.  Someone ages
 ago setup a model GDG that almost everything uses, but this job uses a
 different one.  I've found references on Google that say that the model
 DSCB can't be on sms disk, but both my working and failing ones are on
 SMS volumes.  The do have slightly different SMS values.

You are really using model dataset(s) instead of model DSCBs. You should
be able to assign a dataclass to the dataset with space allocation amounts
that you need if the different model does not have any primary or secondary
space allocation amounts.

 Is it possible that a model DSCB's management class is being passed on
 to the new allocation?  I think that would break my TMM flow in the ACS
 routines?

Management class would not impact space allocation amounts. It is possible
that you are getting a dataclas from the model dataset. You can check the
dataclas on the failing model dataset to see if there are any default
space allocation amounts.
Regards,
John

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Re: Java and classic MVS files

2007-09-11 Thread Schramm, Rob
JZOS Alphaworks home

http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/zosjavabatchtk

Dovetail jzos documentation

http://www.dovetail.com/docs/jzos/index.html

jzos forum at dovetail.. although there is one at the alphaworks as
well.

http://www.dovetail.com/forum/

There are some coding examples here about using mvs files in java.

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/eserver/library/es-java-batchz.html


There is also JRIO.. but I think you'll find everything you need in
JZOS.

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Re: Java and classic MVS files

2007-09-11 Thread Jay Howard
One of our developers is asking me if he can run Java programs with 
classic MVS files (sequential and VSAM) as input and output.  To date, 
our 
programmers have written files to the file system, manipulated them, 
written back to classic MVS file structures.

I tried searching the group history via Google groups, and got either way 

too many hits on a generic search or nothing on a specific search. 
Obviously, my Google-foo is weak.

Steve, 

There is a Redbook that explains this JAVA Stand-alone Applications on 
z/OS Vol1

URL -  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247177.pdf

Thanks, 
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Re: Java and classic MVS files

2007-09-11 Thread Barkow, Eileen
JZOS provides classes for accessing VSAM and other types of MVS files.

It comes with the IBM jdk and the new release is available at:

http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/zosjavabatchtk

 

 

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One of our developers is asking me if he can run Java programs with 

classic MVS files (sequential and VSAM) as input and output.  To date, 

our 

programmers have written files to the file system, manipulated them, 

written back to classic MVS file structures.

 

I tried searching the group history via Google groups, and got either
way 

 

too many hits on a generic search or nothing on a specific search. 

Obviously, my Google-foo is weak.

 

Steve, 

 

There is a Redbook that explains this JAVA Stand-alone Applications on 

z/OS Vol1

 

URL -  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247177.pdf

 

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Re: meaasge OPS3731E

2007-09-11 Thread James Robinson
Don't have a manual, but from Quickref:

 OPS3731E rdftbl.rsrce NOT FOUND

 

 Modifiable: NO

 

 Explanation: A STATESET command specified a table name, resource name,
or 
 both that could not be found in an RDF table.

 

 Action: Verify that the table name and resource name are valid using
OPSQL
 commands or the RDF table editor. If only a resource name is specified,
then  
 verify that the table name appears in the resource directory table for

 System State Manager. Use STATETBL to add the table, if necessary.

 

 The variable fields of the message text are:

 

 rdftbl The resource table name

 

 rsrce The resource row name


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 That is a CA/OPS-MVS message indicating a missing resource.


Are you able to supply the message description/text from the manual.

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Re: JES-APPL

2007-09-11 Thread Ron Wells
Chris
How do you get this out of pending state ??

NODE(5)   NAME=S02ICE00,STATUS=(PENDING/S02ICE00-M001),

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Re: CICS Priority Question

2007-09-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:12:37 -0300, Sergio Lima wrote:

  The problem, sound like, the users do something, that acess the DB2 
directly, and sometime, We can see one, two, three user's doing it.

Are you using response time goals for CICS?  If you are, WLM should be 
controlling DB2 as well as CICS to manage response time.

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Re: JES-APPL

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Ron

I assume this means you saw my earlier post - finally - after 10 hours or 
so.


If it's VTAM, there's a chance I can help. If its JES2, I'm not much use, 
I'm afraid.


Did the command I found in the redbook help you with the disabled status 
for the AS/400 NJE LU?


Chris Mason

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How do you get this out of pending state ??

NODE(5)   NAME=S02ICE00,STATUS=(PENDING/S02ICE00-M001),


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Re: JES-APPL

2007-09-11 Thread Ron Wells
Chris...

Having as400 guy do more research on the nje product he installed
he is not familiar with it nor has worked with it before...saying that I 
think I'll wait to see what he finds out...

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Re: Java and classic MVS files

2007-09-11 Thread Steven Conway
John, Jay, Rob and Eileen: Thank you very much for the info and 
-especially- for the references.  This is exactly what I'm looking for!


Cheers,,,Steve

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Re: DFDSS

2007-09-11 Thread Bruce Black
I hate to gloat, but  in FDR you can simply specify  NEWI=+TARGSYS to 
prepend TARGSYS to all the dataset names.


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Re: CA to IBM TCP conversion

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Robert

This whole discussion should really have been started in the IBMTCP-L 
list[1] rather than the IBM-MAIN list. As far as the IP component of 
Communications Server (CS) is concerned, in IBMTCP-L scintillate the 
brightest stars.


In your original post you asked whether or not it was possible to run both 
the IP component of CS and the Interlink program together. I suppose it is 
possible that one or the other could take possession of a common piece of 
storage that both will reference in order to prevent more than one program 
to run and behave as an IP node. However since you have both running 
together, that presumably does not happen.


If the interfaces controlled by one IP node connect to the same intranet as 
the interfaces controlled by the other IP node - or both connect to the 
Internet - then you need to control the inbound routing appropriately. 
Otherwise there cannot be a problem. What the software does in the privacy 
of its own address space is entirely its business and that of nobody else!


If I've missed something important here I hope to be corrected.

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In an earlier post which I have not retained in my inbox, you were concerned 
about different interpretations of the socket API. That flavour of the 
socket API used with the transport protocols which sit on top of the IP 
layer is quite well-defined. In any case, what little I know/knew of 
Interlink was that they set themselves up as a competitive alternative to 
TCP/IP for MVS - as the IP component of CS used to be named. Thus any APIs 
*ought* to be identical.


Also from an earlier post, I suppose I should be glad you happened to 
mention CINET. You have set up CINET presumably because you imagined that 
you had multiple instances of the IP component of CS - which, of course, you 
don't. Please reread what I just said and the following which I found as the 
first hit searching the CS IP Configuration Guide:


quote

Common INET physical file system (CINET PFS)

If you wish to run multiple z/OS Communications Server TCP/IP stacks 
concurrently, you must use the Common INET (CINET) configuration. In this 
configuration, up to a maximum of eight TCP/IP stacks can be active at any 
time.


/quote

You may be sure that IBM means just the IBM-supplied software for creating 
the appearance of an IP node and absolutely not software from any other Tom, 
Dick or Harry!


The point is that z/OS has features which specifically allow for multiple 
instances of CS IP. These show up in the BPXPRMxx member of SYS1.PARMLIB. In 
place of a single set of INET statements such as


FILESYSTYPE TYPE(INET) ENTRYPOINT(EZBPFINI)
NETWORK DOMAINNAME(AF_INET) DOMAINNUMBER(2) MAXSOCKETS(1)
   TYPE(INET)

I expect you have something like (taken from a study I did some years back 
on CINET)


FILESYSTYPE TYPE(CINET) ENTRYPOINT(BPXTCINT)
NETWORK DOMAINNAME(AF_INET)
   DOMAINNUMBER(2)
   INADDRANYPORT(61000)
   INADDRANYCOUNT(4000)
   MAXSOCKETS(64498)
   TYPE(CINET)
SUBFILESYSTYPE NAME(TCPIP)
  TYPE(CINET)
  ENTRYPOINT(EZBPFINI)
  DEFAULT
SUBFILESYSTYPE NAME(TCPIPC)
  TYPE(CINET)
  ENTRYPOINT(EZBPFINI)

Since I can't see the Interlink logic participating in this CINET scheme, I 
can't see any role for setting up your CINET environment.


-

Now I can get to the points that arise from this post.

Assigning the same IP address to two different interfaces is possible only 
when the interfaces connect to two completely independent intranets. Is that 
your situation? I suspect it is not and so what you are proposing is 
forbidden.


It is possible for two different LPARs to share a port on an OSA feature and 
a program supporting the behaviour of an IP node running in the LPAR can 
allocate the channel address representing the OSA port. However the OSA 
feature logic in the shape of the OSA address table (OAT) presumes, in 
effect, that the IP nodes connect to the same intranet (or the Internet) and 
requires different IP addresses - for the simple reason that the routing of 
an inbound IP packet to a particular LPAR depends on the destination IP 
address.


This has nothing whatsoever to do with VIPAs - although you can complicate 
what I have just said by adding VIPAs into the mix!


As for the host name, again it is the view of your systems from the 
outside world which matters. You can use the same host name only if, when 
it is represented in a name server, it is qualified with a different suffix.


It is a standard feature of the name server system that a name can map to 
multiple IP addresses. You need only examine the gethostbyname() socket call 
which is the call most used to access the name server system I expect. Here 
the returned structure is a list of IP addresses. A well-written client 
socket program, having used the 

Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
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SNIP

The data set space allocations are not the result of a logic problem. 
The logic is WAD (or BAD, if you prefer).  As I said before, the
allocations are intended to make sure the RESTORE job runs and that the
resulting data sets have *some* free space.
SNIP

Then why was an APAR taken? 

Mind you, that was at z/OS 1.4. Wish I were still at that customer site
so that I could give you the APAR numbers.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: CA to IBM TCP Conversion

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Sheila

You should check you understanding of names and IP addresses. The IP address 
is the entity that really matters, each one associated with one interface - 
even if some interfaces are virtual. There is an official host name but 
its usage is whatever you like to make of it - in conjunction with the name 
server system if used.


If a name is to be associated with a node and the node has multiple 
interfaces, necessarily the name, indirectly, is associated with the 
multiple IP addresses, each one of which is primarily associated with an 
interface.


You've probably noticed we've been flogging the OSA/VIPA topic to death 
recently!


I'm not sure Robert is quite ready for dynamic VIPAS just yet! Maybe after 
he has performed his conversion. Also we need to assume he has multiple 
LPARs ready to benefit from the wandering dynamic VIPA. I've a suspicion 
that when he talked about sharing an OSA between two programs behaving as IP 
nodes, both programs were running in the same LPAR.


Because it's really a different topic, I am responding to your gethostid() 
point in a separate thread.


Chris Mason

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Robert,

I noticed you had posted some additional questions.  I hope the following is
helpful.

Can you configure 2 tcp stacks to use the same IP address and/or OSA?

An OSA can  be shared by multiple TCPIP stacks.  An IP address can be
moved between TCPIP stacks, but can only be assigned to one stack at a
time.

There is a redbook that has some good information on different possible
configurations - SG24-5948-04 OSA-Express Implementation Guide.

Can you/should you configure one host name that has multiple IP addresses
assigned to it?

A host name should be associated with only one IP address.  However, one
can have multiple IP address/host name pairs associated with one TCPIP
stack.  The decison on using multiple IP addresses would depend on what
requirements there are for separating traffic and moving applications.  For
instance, VIPA separates the IP address from the hardware.  Two OSAs each
with their own IP address could provide redundant paths to the same VIPA on
a single TCPIP stack.

There are various scenarios for moving IP addresses to alternate systems 
with

dynamic VIPA and DVIPA.  A good resource is the redbook SG24-7341-00
Communications Server for z/OS V1R8 TCP/IP Implementation Volume 3: High
Availability, Scalability and Performance.  The OSA-Express Implementation
Guide has an Appendix on ARP takeover which I found helpful.  ARP takeover 
is

what we implemented here.

The configuration used is based on the hardware configuration and the
business requirements at your site.

...

Sheila Weissborn
Ohio Casualty Insurance

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Gethostid() and DB2 (was CA to IBM TCP conversion)

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Sheila

You raise the matter of the use of the gethostid() call by DB2. I have an 
ancient scar associated with gethostid() - and DB2 may have been the 
reason - may because my memory is failing not because the complaining 
software wasn't identified.


In another thread recently I suggested that gethostid() is an UNIX thing 
which doesn't fit well into MVS. Since the matter has arisen again so 
shortly I thought I should take another look at the conclusions I reached 14 
years ago when I put together my socket programming presentation.


The description of gethostid() I found by Googling is quite consistent. It 
seems I paid attention to the first sentence which defined what gethostid() 
was supposed to be but insufficient to the second. Perhaps the manual from 
which I took my notes didn't bother to include the second!


quote

DESCRIPTION

The sethostid() function establishes a 32-bit identifier for the current 
processor that is intended to be unique among all UNIX systems in existence. 
This is normally a DARPA Internet address for the local machine.


This call is allowed only to the super-user and is normally performed at 
boot time.


The gethostid() function returns the 32-bit identifier for the current 
processor.


This function has been deprecated.

/quote

The last sentence is clarified a little later as follows:

quote

BUGS

32 bits for the identifier is too small.

HISTORY

The gethostid() and sethostid() syscalls appeared in 4.2BSD and were dropped 
in 4.4BSD.


/quote

Note that this is taken from a page identified as Mac OS X Man Pages but 
is framed by BSD Library Functions Manual and June 2, 1993.


It seems that it is intended that the value returned by gethostid() is 
indeed one of the IP addresses associated with the IP node. Trawling the 
Communications Server (CS) manuals for references to the gethostid() call 
does rather indicate that the rationale for the PRIMARYINTERFACE statement 
in the PROFILE data set is in order to provide a value for the gethostid() 
call to return - and nothing else.


The second thoughts that Berkeley System Distribution (BSD) folk had 
about this function happened *after* it was taken up by TCP/IP for VM, the 
predecessor product for TCP/IP for MVS, now the IP component of CS. If there 
was an user council overseeing changes to BSD and if there was an IBM 
representative on it, he or she must have been asleep when the voting on 
ditching gethostid took place.


However I believe the support for use of IP by DB2 may have been implemented 
*after* 1993 and, had the developers been sufficiently diligent, they should 
have noticed that they were thinking of using a deprecated function and 
stayed well away from it.


You said finding an explanation of the use of the gethostid() call in DB2 
was difficult but I get the impression you found it. Would you please 
provide an URL where I can read about this?


For now, I'm picking up your comment The IP address assigned to this link 
in the HOME statement is used to get the host name. This indicates that 
perhaps that DB2 needs to get a name for the IP node on which it is running. 
In order to do this it uses the gethostid() call and is provided with the IP 
address which is identified by the PRIMARYINTERFACE statement. Then it uses 
the gethostbyaddr() call and the returned structure points to an official 
host name - and, in fact, also a pointer to a list of aliases. Possibly 
it is in order to get at this official host name that DB2 - thinks it - 
needs to use the gethostid() call.


I added the thinks it because - having checked my sockets presentation - 
wouldn't you know it? - on that same page as I describe gethostid() I find 
gethostname()!


But I may have an explanation. What the gethostname() call does is extract 
the local version of the host name. What a gethostbysomething() call 
does is is launch a request into the resolver system. This can result in 
looking up the local data set which associates names and address or it can 
result in a request into the name server system. Definitely in the latter 
case, the name returned will be more official than the local version of 
the host name.


On review of this post I realised something else - rather obvious really 
although that DB2 error message is plain misleading and completely puts one 
off the scent! It is quite impossible for the gethostid() call to fail if 
you have just one interface defined correctly. Just one interface 
necessarily provides a default for the PRIMARYINTERFACE statement and so 
provides a value for the gethostid() call to return. I even checked the CS 
IP Sockets Application Programming Interface Guide and Reference manual and, 
as I suspected, there are no error returns possible.


However, it is possible that the *gethostbyaddr()* call could fail and it is 
a failure of this call which is documented by the gethostid failed I very 
strongly suspect. This ties in with your report that you needed to be sure 
that your name 

Re: CA to IBM TCP Conversion

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Robert

I thought I'd dig further into this IUCV point and I found a reference in 
the IP Configuration Guide. It appears that IUCV, VMCF and TNF stuff is 
still available, you just don't necessarily need it. It would appear to have 
become an *optional* bit of preparation for the use of the Communications 
Server (CS) IP component from being *required* as it was when I used to 
teach TCP/IP for MVS.


It is described in the CS IP Configuration Guide under Chapter 2. 
Configuration overview, Required steps before starting TCP/IP as Step 3: 
Configure VMCF and TNF on page 111 of the z/OS 1.8 manual. It appears that 
the section headers are logically incorrect since, as far as I can tell, it 
really is an *optional* step and depends on whether or not the Pascal API is 
used or not. The clearest indication that this step really is optional is 
... therefore, some installations will require setting up VMCF and TNF. at 
the end of the first paragraph.


I then found Dana Mitchell's post where he/she said something of the same as 
above.


Chris Mason

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...

In Dana Mitchell's post:
At the time there were some functions that were supported on one stack but
not the other, that caused us problems (IUCV perhaps?)

I read that IBM TCP/IP versions later than 3.2 do not support IUCV. I have 
an
old print product that uses IUCV to connect to TSO for printer 
administration

functions. The actual prints work ok (port 515) but I haven't been able to
make the Admin panels work. I'm just out of luck on that one, right?

Thanks,
Robert

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Re: CA to IBM TCP Conversion

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Sheila

According to my reading of the Communications Server IP Configuration 
Reference, the TCPCONFIG default for RESTRICTLOWPORTS or UNRESTRICTLOWPORTS 
is the latter - which is as expected since this was the behaviour before 
this pair of parameters was introduced. It is, in general, good practice to 
specify RESTRICTLOWPORTS since this ensures that only by use of the PORT 
statement (or PORTRANGE I guess but that's unlikely) can you authorise use 
of a particular port in the 1 to 1023 range - under TCP - and you tie it to 
a particular job name.


It used to be recommended that you retain all the PORT statement elements as 
specified in the provided file since that way nobody could inadvertently set 
up a program which used one of those ports, get away with it, maybe get it 
established as a vital feature of the production environment and then you 
discover later that you need it for the intended service function - all a 
bit far-fetched anyhow! In case this highly unlikely scenario seemed 
possible, you can now specify RESTRICTLOWPORTS, and ensure that your PORT 
statement specifies only the services you actually want to run today. This 
way you can get rid of all the unnecessary and unhelpful garbage in the PORT 
statement list - and you can see the trees in the wood about which you 
actually care!


Exactly the same - substituting UDP for TCP - can be said for the same pair 
of parameters on the UDPCONFIG statement.


It is a convention for TCP and UDP that ports 1 to 1023 are assigned to 
well-known server functions such as you will find listed in the equivalent 
of what on my PC is the C\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\services file.


Chris Mason

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...

Speaking of port usage, here is another tip.  In the TCPIP profile, 
TCPCONFIG

and UDPCONFIG default to restricting usage of ports 1 through 1023.  So a
port must be reserved for any application using anything in this range or 
the

profile needs to have UNRESTRICTLOWPORTS coded on TCPCONFIG and
UDPCONFIG.  Normally this range is used by standard applications like ftp
which are included in the sample profile.

Sheila Weissborn
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ISPF Data Set List Exit Questions

2007-09-11 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
The ISPF Data Set List Exit gets invoked once after the Data Set List
Utility Panel is filled in and then again for each data set that is
about to be displayed in the list.

The first invocation provides an opportunity for the exit to change the
data set name and/or the volume.

The subsequent invocations allow the exit to decide if the candidate
data set should actually be displayed.  The parameter list for this
invocation contains five parameters.  The second and third are the data
set name and volume as specified on the 3.4 panel.

My questions are:

The process stops scanning the input data set name for a match
at the first blank, eliminating the need to blank out the rest of the
field.  When the name is passed to the exit on the first invocation, is
it the entire input field or just the part that is used to perform the
match?

On the subsequent invocations, are the second and third
parameters really as specified on the panel or do they reflect any
changes made during the first invocation?

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Re: CA to IBM TCP Conversion

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Robert

I've send you a file which summarises the search order issue.

You'll see from the end of the document that not everything was clear but 
this is par for the course in regard to CS IP documentation.


-

I have a tentative recommendation which goes as follows:

- Set up a resolver procedure.

You necessarily have a resolver procedure running and, if you haven't 
created your own, it uses a well-hidden procedure called not RESOLVER, as 
you might be sure it must be, but IEESYSAS, a general purpose procedure 
which can be used whenever a DD-statement need not be added to the EXEC 
statement.


- Be sure to specify COMMONSEARCH in your resolver, SETUP, file.

If you are using a local file for name to address translation, you can use 
the sensible format as defined in the CS IP Configuration Guide. section 
1.5.4.4, Creating ETC.IPNODES and /etc/ipnodes.


- I am assuming you don't want to be too complicated for the moment so 
define a client[1] data set using the GLOBALTCPIPDATA statement in your 
resolver, SETUP, file.


Note that, when you use the GLOBALTCPIPDATA statement, all parameters which 
relate to using a name server necessarily reside in the specified file. This 
becomes important only when you start getting clever and try to concatenate 
this data set with another data set.


- Similarly assuming you don't want to be too complicated for the moment and 
that you are defining name to address relationships in a local file rather 
than using the name server system - and you have specified COMMONSEARCH as I 
suggested above, you should define the name to address data set using the 
GLOBALIPNODES statement in your resolver, SETUP, file.


You may have noticed that Sheila mentions using the DEFAULTIPNODES statement 
in an earlier post. This is similar to the GLOBALIPNODES statement but comes 
last in the search order rather than first.


-

That deals with the Base resolver configuration file and the Local host 
table.


In order to keep the remaining files as simple as possible, given that you 
are unlikely to need to change the supplied files, simply create 
TCPIP.ETC.PROTO and TCPIP.ETC.SERVICES files so that they can be dynamically 
allocated by file name - one of the features of Communications Server (CS) 
IP which reveals its VM heritage.


You can probably simply use the internal version of the translate table.

Chris Mason

[1] Client here refers to the relationship of CS IP-related address 
spaces, the client address spaces, which rely on the main CS IP address 
space, the server address space. The file is otherwise referred to as the 
TCPIP.DATA file which again reflects the VM heritage.


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All these APIs and search orders and such make my head spin!

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Re: JES-APPL

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mason

Ron

Tell him to download the redbook. It's quite small and to the point. It's 
designed mainly for the AS/400 person as far as I can tell - which perhaps 
explains why it's a bit weak in the VTAM area!


http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/gg244382.html

Chris Mason

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Chris...

Having as400 guy do more research on the nje product he installed
he is not familiar with it nor has worked with it before...saying that I
think I'll wait to see what he finds out...


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Re: CA to IBM TCP Conversion

2007-09-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler

Chris Mason wrote:

Robert

I thought I'd dig further into this IUCV point and I found a reference 
in the IP Configuration Guide. It appears that IUCV, VMCF and TNF 
stuff is still available, you just don't necessarily need it. It would 
appear to have become an *optional* bit of preparation for the use of 
the Communications Server (CS) IP component from being *required* as it 
was when I used to teach TCP/IP for MVS.


It is described in the CS IP Configuration Guide under Chapter 2. 
Configuration overview, Required steps before starting TCP/IP as 
Step 3: Configure VMCF and TNF on page 111 of the z/OS 1.8 manual. It 
appears that the section headers are logically incorrect since, as far 
as I can tell, it really is an *optional* step and depends on whether or 
not the Pascal API is used or not. The clearest indication that this 
step really is optional is ... therefore, some installations will 
require setting up VMCF and TNF. at the end of the first paragraph.


I then found Dana Mitchell's post where he/she said something of the 
same as above.


Chris Mason


the original tcp/ip implementation was done in vs/pascal on vm370 
(20 yrs ago) ... but there were some number of implementation bottlenecks 
... such that it got about 44kbyte/sec aggregate thruput consuming a 
3090 processor. i then did rfc1044 support for the product and in some 
tuning tests at cray research (between 4341 clone and a cray machine) 
was getting 4341 channel media speed thruput using only a modest amount of 
the 4341 clone.

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044

for some topic drift, recent post mentioning vs/pascal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#61 (Newbie question)How does the modern 
high-end processor been designed?

which is slightly related to topic in this newsgroup since the los gatos
vlsi tools group was responsible for the 370 pascal implementation
as well as the LSM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#67 1401 simulator for OS/360

somewhat drifting back to the topic, a port of the implementation was 
then done for mvs ... by doing a (vm370) vmcf/iucv emulator for 
mvs systems.


for other background ... internally there was something called 
spm that was originally implemented on cp67 (precursor to vm370

that ran on 360/67s) which was a superset of the later vmcf and
iucv implementations. there was somewhat internal dissension
leading up to the initial vmcf release ... since spm had been
around for much longer period and had so much more function. 
Later, iucv was released to cover some additional function (also

covered by spm) that was handled by vmcf.

some old email with spm reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#email851017

misc. old posts mentioning spm:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#31 2 questions: diag 68 and calling 
convention
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#20 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC 
software?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#45 Digital ID
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#51 other cp/cms history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#47 To RISC or not to RISC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#8 Why these original FORTRAN quirks?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#12 more secure communication over the 
network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#16 intersection between autolog command 
and cmsback (more history)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#52 IBM sues maker of Intel-based 
Mainframe clones

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SYSMDUMP in DB2 SP WLM

2007-09-11 Thread Don Imbriale
We need to collect a SYSMDUMP from a DB2 SP WLM task.  The SYSMDUMP 
DD needs to point to a disk data set.  There can be multiple instances of the 
DB2 SP WLM task running concurrently, so there is a need to uniquely name 
the data set for the SYSMDUMP.  GDGs don't work because there is an 
enqueue on the GDG base, so started tasks after the first wait.  We've 
thought of using system symbols (since this is a started task), but there isn't 
enough granularity in the values of the symbols to assure uniqueness.

Any thoughts on how to accomplish this?

Don Imbriale

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Wikiscanner

2007-09-11 Thread Ed Finnell
_http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20070910/NEWS/709100325/0/FRONTPAGE_ 
(http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20070910/NEWS/709100325/0/FRONTPAGE) 
 
Shows to go ya...



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Re: SYSMDUMP in DB2 SP WLM

2007-09-11 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Search the archives for some details from Ed Jaffe regarding pointing
the SYSMDUMP DD to a SYSOUT dataset, and then saving it to a dataset if
and only if you need it.

Wayne Driscoll
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NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.



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We need to collect a SYSMDUMP from a DB2 SP WLM task.  The SYSMDUMP 
DD needs to point to a disk data set.  There can be multiple instances
of the 
DB2 SP WLM task running concurrently, so there is a need to uniquely
name 
the data set for the SYSMDUMP.  GDGs don't work because there is an 
enqueue on the GDG base, so started tasks after the first wait.  We've 
thought of using system symbols (since this is a started task), but
there isn't 
enough granularity in the values of the symbols to assure uniqueness.

Any thoughts on how to accomplish this?

Don Imbriale

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Re: SYSMDUMP in DB2 SP WLM

2007-09-11 Thread Imbriale, Donald
Thanks Wayne.  I had searched the archives.  My tests show that SYSMDUMP
directed to SYSOUT, then copied to a dataset (via SDSF for example),
results in a partially corrupted SYSMDUMP.

Don Imbriale

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Search the archives for some details from Ed Jaffe regarding pointing
the SYSMDUMP DD to a SYSOUT dataset, and then saving it to a dataset if
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Re: SYSMDUMP in DB2 SP WLM

2007-09-11 Thread Edward Jaffe

Wayne Driscoll wrote:

Search the archives for some details from Ed Jaffe regarding pointing
the SYSMDUMP DD to a SYSOUT dataset, and then saving it to a dataset if
and only if you need it.
  


SYSMDUMP to sysout. The only way to fly! (Or, at least, the only way I 
fly.) ;-)


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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread George D Dranes
I'm assuming if I go the re-allocate and copy direction I can use IEBCOPY with 
the COPY parm (don't really want to use COPYMOD since it will re-link 
everything) for PDSs and COPYGRP for the PDSEs? 

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There is a way in the ServerPac dialogs to globally alter the space 
allocations.  I usually add 25-50% to the allocations.  After my initial 
load of the datasets I compress all then reallocate as needed to minimum 
50% free in a single extent.  This is probably not needed but I like all 
my system datasets and anything in LINKLIST or LPALIST to be at least 
50% free in one extent.  I do not really worry if they are allocated 
with secondary as long as I'm not using it although for OEM LINKLIST I 
will allocate zero secondary. 

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-Original Message- 
George Dranes 

We just recently installed z/OS 1.8 using ServerPac.  We then applied 
all of the latest RSU maintenance.  I noticed many of the SYS1 datasets 
on our SYSRES apparently were allocated too small by ServerPac jobs.  I 
know some may just need compressed but others such as SYS1.SHASLNKE 
which is a PDSE is also into 5 extents.  My question is, does anyone out 
there try to get these allocated into one extent or do you just leave as 
is and not worry about it because of today's DASD??  It just gets kind 
of irritating when many of these datasets are obviously allocated (in 
blocks even) too small by the ServerPac allocate jobs. 

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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread John Eells

Thompson, Steve wrote:

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SNIP

The data set space allocations are not the result of a logic problem. 
The logic is WAD (or BAD, if you prefer).  As I said before, the

allocations are intended to make sure the RESTORE job runs and that the
resulting data sets have *some* free space.
SNIP

Then why was an APAR taken? 


Mind you, that was at z/OS 1.4. Wish I were still at that customer site
so that I could give you the APAR numbers.


Without the APAR numbers, it's a bit hard to say (smile), but in any 
case, I was talking about the current code, not history.


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Re: JES-APPL

2007-09-11 Thread Ron Wells
yephe got itsomething in his setup...working now.thanks for 
your help...

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Re: SYSMDUMP in DB2 SP WLM

2007-09-11 Thread Edward Jaffe

Imbriale, Donald wrote:

Thanks Wayne.  I had searched the archives.  My tests show that SYSMDUMP
directed to SYSOUT, then copied to a dataset (via SDSF for example),
results in a partially corrupted SYSMDUMP.
  


I look at many such dumps and have never experienced any corruption 
using this technique. The dump on spool will be byte-for-byte exactly 
correct. When copying to DASD for IPCS use, you need to use a tool that 
will not change the contents of the data. And, you must copy it to a 
RECFM=FBS data set.


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Re: SYSMDUMP in DB2 SP WLM

2007-09-11 Thread Don Imbriale
After further research I see that the 'corruption' is the insertion of carriage 
control characters.  This is being done by SDSF when using line command 
XDC, even if the correct data set attributes are specified for the output data 
set.

Instead, I created an appropriate data set, allocated it to some DD in my TSO 
session, then used SDSF's XFC line command and pointed to that DD.  This 
copies it as is, without carriage control characters.  Now it is usable.

Thanks Wayne and Ed.

Don Imbriale

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Imbriale, Donald wrote:
 Thanks Wayne.  I had searched the archives.  My tests show that 
SYSMDUMP
 directed to SYSOUT, then copied to a dataset (via SDSF for example),
 results in a partially corrupted SYSMDUMP.


I look at many such dumps and have never experienced any corruption
using this technique. The dump on spool will be byte-for-byte exactly
correct. When copying to DASD for IPCS use, you need to use a tool that
will not change the contents of the data. And, you must copy it to a
RECFM=FBS data set.

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IEF195I

2007-09-11 Thread Duane Shields
Our database group is trying to do a unload/reload of a database to increase 
the size.  While running a job to do this, they received the following error:

IEF195I MIC105GJ PS030 DD1 - MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DEVICES FOR DD 
EXCEEDED

Explanation:  The number of units requested by the specified DD statement 
is greater than the maximum of 59 units allowed for a DD statement.   

Does anyone have a way to get around this?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Duane Shields

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Re: IEF195I

2007-09-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Duane,
 
Could you post the dd statement for DD1?



Subject: IEF195I
Our database group is trying to do a unload/reload of a database to increase
the size.  While running a job to do this, they received the following error:

IEF195I MIC105GJ PS030 DD1 - MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DEVICES FOR DD
EXCEEDED

Explanation:  The number of units requested by the specified DD statement
is greater than the maximum of 59 units allowed for a DD statement.  

Does anyone have a way to get around this?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Duane Shields



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Re: IEF195I

2007-09-11 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Duane,
How big's the database?
What's the JCL for //DD1 look like and how much space are you asking for?
How much space is available on the volumes that you're writing to?
Looks to me like you are asking for insufficient space to begin with.

As an alternative for space-constrained disk, you could go to tape with up
to 256 volumes.


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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Our database group is trying to do a unload/reload of a database to increase

the size.  While running a job to do this, they received the following
error:

IEF195I MIC105GJ PS030 DD1 - MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DEVICES FOR DD 
EXCEEDED

Explanation:  The number of units requested by the specified DD statement 
is greater than the maximum of 59 units allowed for a DD statement.   

Does anyone have a way to get around this?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Duane Shields

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Re: SYSMDUMP in DB2 SP WLM

2007-09-11 Thread Ray Mullins
(off-list to hide my ignorance)

Hello Ed,

Out of curiosity, in a situation where multiple abends occurred, how does
SYSMDUMP processing handle this?  Does it write multiple dumps to the
dataset? (I'm guessing yes because of the nature of SYSOUT storage.)

We just had a situation where, in a multi-TCB address space, the customer
had only SYSUDUMP.  The problem was SP 0 fragmentation below the line, and
unfortunately we only got SP 0 storage associated with the two TCBs that RTM
decided to dump, which you can guess made things difficult for me to track
down.  Luckily a couple of days ago we got another dump, from another
customer, with the same below-the-line storage issues, but luckily the
dumped SP 0 had a lot more info.  A SYSMDUMP would have come in very handy
in those environments.

(Now I'm fighting an internal battle between SYSMDUMP and SYSABEND. One of
our support reps has some REXX programs he's written to parse
SYSUDUMP/ABEND, and I'm trying to bring them into the late 1990s with IPCS
and re-writing the REXX programs to do the same thing.)

Also, I'll ask just because, but does Phoenix have any openings?  I like
what I'm doing, but there are some issues within the company that are making
me wonder if it was a good thing to take this position so quickly.  

Thanks and best regards,
Ray Mullins

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 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 September, 2007 09:36
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: SYSMDUMP in DB2 SP WLM
 
 Wayne Driscoll wrote:
  Search the archives for some details from Ed Jaffe regarding pointing
  the SYSMDUMP DD to a SYSOUT dataset, and then saving it to a dataset
 if
  and only if you need it.
 
 
 SYSMDUMP to sysout. The only way to fly! (Or, at least, the only way I
 fly.) ;-)
 
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RES: IEF195I

2007-09-11 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
I don't think there is a way to circunvent it.
You can see with your storage administrator to change this database to
a Dataclass with compression.

It will short the database size, but you still have the 59 volumes limit.
You have to evaluate the performance too. 


Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos

Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
Banco Bradesco S/A 
4254/DPCD Alphaville 
Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes 
 
Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 


-Mensagem original-
De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Duane 
Shields
Enviada em: terça-feira, 11 de setembro de 2007 13:52
Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Assunto: IEF195I

Our database group is trying to do a unload/reload of a database to increase 
the size.  While running a job to do this, they received the following error:

IEF195I MIC105GJ PS030 DD1 - MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DEVICES FOR DD EXCEEDED

Explanation:  The number of units requested by the specified DD statement 
is greater than the maximum of 59 units allowed for a DD statement.   

Does anyone have a way to get around this?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Duane Shields

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Re: The future of IBM Mainframes [just thinking]

2007-09-11 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Howard,

That is the funny thing... The customers is in Europa and sadly, they
are unhappy too, not because the mainframe is moving to the US, but
because the salesman is fluent Nordic / Polish / English / Spanish, but
the moment he has to phone the helpdesk for support on his credit card
machine... he could get someone from any of those languages on the line,
and it might not match his language, he might be asked to repeat / spell
his name 3 times during the conversation... So in the end he leaves,
enticed by the next sales-man, ends up in a similar situation as
before... and the wheel keeps on turning...

Sorry, just had to wine a bit...

Herbie
Elavon Financial Services Limited
Registered in Ireland: Number 418442
Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, 
Co. Dublin, Ireland
Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins,  Terrance Dolan (USA),  Pamela 
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Re: IEF195I

2007-09-11 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duane Shields
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:52 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: IEF195I
 
 
 Our database group is trying to do a unload/reload of a 
 database to increase 
 the size.  While running a job to do this, they received the 
 following error:
 
 IEF195I MIC105GJ PS030 DD1 - MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DEVICES FOR DD 
 EXCEEDED
 
 Explanation:  The number of units requested by the specified 
 DD statement 
 is greater than the maximum of 59 units allowed for a DD 
 statement.   
 
 Does anyone have a way to get around this?
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
 Duane Shields

That message, in and of itself, is not a problem, just a bother. We get
it quite often and the job runs fine. However, if you mean how can you
exceed 59 volumes for a DASD resident data set, you cannot. That is
another hard coded limit that you simply cannot get around. The
solution (which I don't like) is to go to larger volume sizes and use
the large dataset ability ( 64K tracks per volume) of z/OS 1.8. Or,
depending on the data compressibility, use a DATACLAS with SMS
compression enabled.

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[no subject]

2007-09-11 Thread Ray Mullins
Oh.

That is totally embarrassing.

I completely apologize for that last part of the e-mail.  That was, of
course, supposed to be private.  And I have embarrassed myself, and probably
have screwed myself big-time.

Looks like I have a lot of explaining to do

Regards,
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Re: (no subject)

2007-09-11 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 9/11/2007 12:21:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

course,  supposed to be private.  And I have embarrassed myself, and  probably
have screwed myself big-time.

Looks like I have a lot of  explaining to do




It's OK, hire a lawyer, a publicist, take it all back and run for public  
office!



** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Can't find Page Volume

2007-09-11 Thread Mike Feeley
I'm changing the paging volumes and dataset names on out tech (z/OS 1.8) 
lpar.  When I try to IPL, I get an IEA924D message.  The text says, iea924d 
volume mbgpg1 needed for page data set was not mounted; new plpa data 
set may be requested; reply 'go' or 'ignore'.  I can't find what is wrong.  
There are only 2 page volumes, one for a 1 cylinder PLPA and a huge 
COMMON, and one for a LOCAL (full 3390-3 volume).  I am reusing the same 2 
page volumes (UCB's), just different volser name.  Volumes were created from 
scratch.  The master catalog page dataset entries look good.  We reply GO 
to the message and the message reappears.  The message is telling me that it 
can't find the volume.  The UCB's are in the HCD as being online.  We 
deactivate and reactivated the lpar without any different outcome.  Any 
idedas?

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Re: (no subject)

2007-09-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell
  
 course,  supposed to be private.  And I have embarrassed 
 myself, and  probably have screwed myself big-time.
 
 Looks like I have a lot of  explaining to do
 
 
 It's OK, hire a lawyer, a publicist, take it all back and run 
 for public office!

Yeah; rumor has it that a Senate seat may soon be available from
Idaho.

-jc-

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[no subject]

2007-09-11 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Mullins
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:21 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: 
 
 
 Oh.
 
 That is totally embarrassing.
 
 I completely apologize for that last part of the e-mail.  That was, of
 course, supposed to be private.  And I have embarrassed 
 myself, and probably
 have screwed myself big-time.
 
 Looks like I have a lot of explaining to do
 
 Regards,
 Ray Mullins
 
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Nonsense! The extra text was automatically added by Microsoft Exchange
in an attempt to cause problems in the IBM community. Likely done by
your Exchange admins in an attempt to get you in trouble. (just kidding)
Yet another attack on the poor, helpless mainframe by the Evil Empire
(pat. pending). GRIN.

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Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS

2007-09-11 Thread John Norgauer
Hello -

Does anyone have a set of JCL's I can use to copy a sequebntial file to my
HFS environment.

Thanks.

John Norgauer
University of California Davis Medical Center
2315 Stockton Blvd
ASB 1300
Sacramento, Ca 95817
916-734-0536

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Re: Can't find Page Volume

2007-09-11 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Feeley
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:33 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Can't find Page Volume
 
 
 I'm changing the paging volumes and dataset names on out tech 
 (z/OS 1.8) 
 lpar.  When I try to IPL, I get an IEA924D message.  The text 
 says, iea924d 
 volume mbgpg1 needed for page data set was not mounted; new plpa data 
 set may be requested; reply 'go' or 'ignore'.  I can't find 
 what is wrong.  
 There are only 2 page volumes, one for a 1 cylinder PLPA and a huge 
 COMMON, and one for a LOCAL (full 3390-3 volume).  I am 
 reusing the same 2 
 page volumes (UCB's), just different volser name.  Volumes 
 were created from 
 scratch.  The master catalog page dataset entries look good.  
 We reply GO 
 to the message and the message reappears.  The message is 
 telling me that it 
 can't find the volume.  The UCB's are in the HCD as being online.  We 
 deactivate and reactivated the lpar without any different 
 outcome.  Any 
 idedas?

The actual volser is MBGPG1? That's what z/OS is looking for and cannot
find. That is where the PLPA exists, according to the catalog. Are you
pointing to the correct master catalog? I've done that in the past and
been very confused!

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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread Eric Bielefeld

Mark,

Do you really get your whole Sysres on one 3390-3?  I had to go to 2 volumes 
back at OS/390 2.8, and maybe even 2.5.  I know I usually spent a lot of 
time going over allocations and making sure there was enough space for most 
maintenance to go on without putting any datasets in multiple extents.


As one other person suggested, I also sorted the dataset list on my Sysres 
packs by extents.  I then compressed the datasets, and released the free 
extents.  If data was actually in extents after compressing, I reallocated 
the dataset with more primary space.


I used to run an FDR job occasionally.  FDR allows you to specify the 
sequence of the datasets on a restore job.  I put the heavily hit loadlibs 
such as SYS1.LINKLIB on one side of the VTOC, and the ISPF libraries on the 
other side of the VTOC.  With todays heavily cached dasd, that probably will 
buy you very little anymore.


Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It bothered me a little the first couple of times I did maintenance for 
1.8
(and previous ServerPacs) but its a minor irritation.  It's a fine line 
for IBM
trying to keep the sysres to fit on a 3390-3 (not including HFS  - because 
many

shops still don't have mod-9) and leaving some extra space.   Mark
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Re: Can't find Page Volume

2007-09-11 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
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Have you checked VATLSTxx to make sure they are mounted correctly?

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Mike Feeley wrote:
I'm changing the paging volumes and dataset names on out tech (z/OS 1.8)

lpar.  When I try to IPL, I get an IEA924D message.  The text says,
iea924d 
volume mbgpg1 needed for page data set was not mounted; new plpa data 
set may be requested; reply 'go' or 'ignore'.  I can't find what is
wrong.  
There are only 2 page volumes, one for a 1 cylinder PLPA and a huge 
COMMON, and one for a LOCAL (full 3390-3 volume).  I am reusing the same
2 
page volumes (UCB's), just different volser name.  Volumes were created
from 
scratch.  The master catalog page dataset entries look good.  We reply
GO 
to the message and the message reappears.  The message is telling me
that it 
can't find the volume.  The UCB's are in the HCD as being online.  We 
deactivate and reactivated the lpar without any different outcome.  Any 
idedas?

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Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-09-11 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Arthur wrote:
 I've seen users 
accidentally bring a system to its knees

Back in the 90's someone that was logging on to a system using a TPX
type product, kept on taking VTAM down. The command she was supposed to
enter was logon applid=tso instead she typed logon applis=tso... and
when she claimed that she caused it, The senior sysprog told her that
she could not possibly have the authority in the system to do such a
thing, she was adamant, called him over and showed him... Sadly she got
a bit of a brushing over that... to this day, I still cannot imagine
what on earth could have been the cause of this problem with VTAM on
OS390 1.3

Regards

Herbie
Elavon Financial Services Limited
Registered in Ireland: Number 418442
Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, 
Co. Dublin, Ireland
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Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS

2007-09-11 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Norgauer
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:33 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS
 
 
 Hello -
 
 Does anyone have a set of JCL's I can use to copy a 
 sequebntial file to my
 HFS environment.
 
 Thanks.
 
 John Norgauer

//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1 DD DSN=my.input.dsn,DISP=OLD
//SYSUT2 PATH='/where/my/UNIX/file/is/my.input.dsn',
// FILEDATA=TEXT,PATHOPTH=(OCREAT,OWRONLY,OEXCL),
// PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),PATHMODE=(SIRUSR,SIWUSR)

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Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS

2007-09-11 Thread Gary Green
This is what I use.

//OCPY2LAN EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,COND=(00,LT) 
//*NMVS DD DISP=SHR,DSN=OSS05.TEST.JCL(CMPL3) 
//INMVS DD DISP=SHR,DSN=OSS05.REPORT.OUTLIST 
//OUTHFS DD PATHOPTS=(OCREAT,OWRONLY,OTRUNC), 
// PATHMODE=SIRWXU,FILEDATA=TEXT, 
// PATH='/mfgroup/web/ReportOutlist.txt' 
//* PATH='/mfgroup/web/RPF-CMPL3.txt' 
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN DD * 
OCOPY INDD(INMVS) OUTDD(OUTHFS) TEXT CONVERT(YES) PATHOPTS(USE) 
/* 




On Tue Sep 11 10:33 , John Norgauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]sent:

Hello -
Does anyone have a set of JCL's I can use to copy a sequebntial file to my
HFS environment.
Thanks.
John Norgauer
University of California Davis Medical Center
2315 Stockton Blvd
ASB 1300
Sacramento, Ca 95817
916-734-0536
 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !!  JN 2004

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Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS

2007-09-11 Thread John Norgauer
Thanks John,

However, got this error:

 // FILEDATA=TEXT,PATHOPTH=(OCREAT,OWRONLY,OEXCL),
 // PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),PATHMODE=(SIRUSR,SIWUSR)
 //* SUT2 DD SYSOUT=*
 //* SUT2 DD SYSOUT=L,DEST=U45
STMT NO. MESSAGE
   6 IEFC630I UNIDENTIFIED KEYWORD PATHOPTH



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Re: Wikiscanner

2007-09-11 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Thats why I never go to Wikipedia to look something up.  If anyone can 
change it, how can you trust any of it?


Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434

- Original Message - 
From: Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:16 AM
Subject: Wikiscanner



_http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20070910/NEWS/709100325/0/FRONTPAGE_
(http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20070910/NEWS/709100325/0/FRONTPAGE)

Shows to go ya...


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Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS

2007-09-11 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Norgauer
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:00 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS
 
 
 Thanks John,
 
 However, got this error:
 
  // FILEDATA=TEXT,PATHOPTH=(OCREAT,OWRONLY,OEXCL),
  // PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),PATHMODE=(SIRUSR,SIWUSR)
  //* SUT2 DD SYSOUT=*
  //* SUT2 DD SYSOUT=L,DEST=U45
 STMT NO. MESSAGE
6 IEFC630I UNIDENTIFIED KEYWORD PATHOPTH
 
 
 
 John Norgauer

Bad arthritis. PATHOPT= instead. And I forgot the //SYSIN DD DUMMY as
well.

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Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS

2007-09-11 Thread John Norgauer
Got it to work John. Thanks

Is there also a batch jcl I can use to delete the HFS file which I just
created?


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Re: Wikiscanner

2007-09-11 Thread Dean Kent
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 Thats why I never go to Wikipedia to look something up.  If anyone can
 change it, how can you trust any of it?

I'm reminded of a conversation I had with a fellow sysprog, who hailed from
Europe, about some event in history that I now forget.   What I do remember
was after we compared notes, we both sat completely puzzled about how the
same event could have been taught two completely different ways.But I
did learn that history really isn't set in stone - it changes as much as the
future does!!!

Regards,
   Dean

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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
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SNIP

Without the APAR numbers, it's a bit hard to say (smile), but in any
case, I was talking about the current code, not history.
SNIP

;-) RETAIN is your friend.

The keywords, severpac volser [and/or] sms, return some interesting
PUBLIC APARs. I wonder if it will return the internal development
APARs to you, being you are internal. 

Oh, and being a developer, I have found that history has a strange way
of repeating itself. Or is it that Rod Sirling still lives?

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Can't find Page Volume

2007-09-11 Thread Matthew Stitt
Actually, I was wondering if he did a CLPA at the IPL.  Without it, the
system would look for everything as it was the last time it was running.

Of course, if it cannot find any of the page datasets anywhere, then it
should ask the operator to specify them.  That should force the CLPA option
if the new ones are truly empty.

So at this time, I would pull a LISTCAT of the page data set entries in the
catalog and see what they say.  Also make sure the catalog being used is the
one you want to use.

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Have you checked VATLSTxx to make sure they are mounted correctly?

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Mike Feeley wrote:
I'm changing the paging volumes and dataset names on out tech (z/OS 1.8)

lpar.  When I try to IPL, I get an IEA924D message.  The text says,
iea924d
volume mbgpg1 needed for page data set was not mounted; new plpa data
set may be requested; reply 'go' or 'ignore'.  I can't find what is
wrong.
There are only 2 page volumes, one for a 1 cylinder PLPA and a huge
COMMON, and one for a LOCAL (full 3390-3 volume).  I am reusing the same
2
page volumes (UCB's), just different volser name.  Volumes were created
from
scratch.  The master catalog page dataset entries look good.  We reply
GO
to the message and the message reappears.  The message is telling me
that it
can't find the volume.  The UCB's are in the HCD as being online.  We
deactivate and reactivated the lpar without any different outcome.  Any
idedas?


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Re: Can't find Page Volume

2007-09-11 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
I'd recommend re-checking the volume definitions for the master catalog
your are trying to use, just to verify that everything looks good with
the PAGE datasets.  Then re-verify your correct LOAD parm address and
LOADxx member, and be sure you're not using a different SYSx.IPLPARM
than you think you are.  After this, I would recheck your IODF file, and
make sure you are using the one you think you are.  This probably is the
issue (wrong IODF)...  

Also check you are using the correct master catalog in your LOADxx
member.  You can change your LOADPARM to give more messages (don't
remember which letter), and this might give more diagnostic info.   

Also, you might try putting CLPA in your IEASYSxx member and give it a
shot.  This should not correct this issue, but it might be worth a try.


Normally when I recreate a system I create the page datasets with
different first two qualifiers (say PAGE.TST1) on our production system,
and then I MERGECAT these entries over to my target test system master
using MERGECAT LEVEL.  This usually insures that I have the page
datasets created correctly.  I know when I've tried to muck with PAGE
datasets in the past using STEPCAT, etc..., I've run into quirky issues
like this, and it's cleaner to define and then move the catalog entries.


C. Todd Burrell 
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer
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Subject: Can't find Page Volume

I'm changing the paging volumes and dataset names on out tech (z/OS 1.8)
lpar.  When I try to IPL, I get an IEA924D message.  The text says,
iea924d volume mbgpg1 needed for page data set was not mounted; new
plpa data set may be requested; reply 'go' or 'ignore'.  I can't find
what is wrong.  
There are only 2 page volumes, one for a 1 cylinder PLPA and a huge
COMMON, and one for a LOCAL (full 3390-3 volume).  I am reusing the same
2 page volumes (UCB's), just different volser name.  Volumes were
created from scratch.  The master catalog page dataset entries look
good.  We reply GO 
to the message and the message reappears.  The message is telling me
that it can't find the volume.  The UCB's are in the HCD as being
online.  We deactivate and reactivated the lpar without any different
outcome.  Any idedas?

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Re: Wikiscanner

2007-09-11 Thread Jon Brock
Which reminds me:
Wikipedia Celebrates 750 Years of American Independence!

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50902


It's a classic.

Jon


snip
Thats why I never go to Wikipedia to look something up.  If anyone can 
change it, how can you trust any of it?
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Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS

2007-09-11 Thread McKown, John
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:12 PM
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 Subject: Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS
 
 
 Got it to work John. Thanks
 
 Is there also a batch jcl I can use to delete the HFS file 
 which I just
 created?
 
 
 John Norgauer

I haven't tried, but:

//DELETE EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//DD1 DD PATH='/file/to/delete',PATHDISP=(DELETE,DELETE)

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Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS

2007-09-11 Thread Gary Green
He probably did that from memory or had a finger-check while typing.  PATHOPTH 
should be PATHOPTS'


 On Tue Sep 11 11:00 , John Norgauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Thanks John,

However, got this error:

 // FILEDATA=TEXT,PATHOPTH=(OCREAT,OWRONLY,OEXCL),
 // PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),PATHMODE=(SIRUSR,SIWUSR)
 //* SUT2 DD SYSOUT=*
 //* SUT2 DD SYSOUT=L,DEST=U45
STMT NO. MESSAGE
   6 IEFC630I UNIDENTIFIED KEYWORD PATHOPTH



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msgIGD17279I SMS reject becasue of 'exclude list'

2007-09-11 Thread Jack Kelly
I'm use to seeing IGD17279I for diabale volumes, storage groups,DADSM
failure, etc but have one for being on the 'exclude list'.

IGD17279I 3 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY WERE ON THE EXCLUDE LIST

Msg  Codes says
THEY WERE ON THE EXCLUDE LIST The volumes were already in use by this data
set.

The Storage Group has 16 volumes, 8 volumes were rejected because of space,
5 were rejected because of duplicate DSN (which is yet another question),
and 3 volumes were rejected because they were on the exclude list. The DSN
is currently allocated on parts of 3 volumes with 6 candidate entries.



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Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS

2007-09-11 Thread John Norgauer
Thanks again John. Delete worked


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Re: Need JCL's to copy MVS file to HFS

2007-09-11 Thread Steve Comstock

John Norgauer wrote:

Got it to work John. Thanks

Is there also a batch jcl I can use to delete the HFS file which I just
created?


John Norgauer


John,

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Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-11 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
COPYMOD will reblock if necessary but I don't think it relinks.  In any
case, if the BLKSIZE of the target PDS is at least as large as the
source PDS, then COPY will work and you don't need COPYMOD.

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I'm assuming if I go the re-allocate and copy direction I can use
IEBCOPY with the COPY parm (don't really want to use COPYMOD since it
will re-link everything) for PDSs and COPYGRP for the PDSEs?

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Re: Can't find Page Volume

2007-09-11 Thread Jack Kelly
snip
I'm changing the paging volumes and dataset names on out tech (z/OS 1.8)
lpar.
snip
Hope that this is germaine.
I ran into this problem using our 1.4 page dsn on 1.7. I ended up
recreating the page dsn with  a HLQ alias in the driver to the target's
master cat and then the IPL went OK. Any kind of cat(...) or recatalogue
wouldn't work.



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Using gskkyman to utilize a real CA

2007-09-11 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
I have a very good documented process for using gskkyman to create a
self signed certificate which out TN3270 and FTP servers use.  We
haven't had problems with it until we wanted to use TLS to transfer a
file from one mainframe to another.  Most FTP clients have an option
telling them what to do if they can't validate the certificate, and we
have to set to use it anyway.   However, the mainframe FTP client
doesn't have that option, so it won't transfer the files.  Hence, I am
going to try a real certificate from verisign.

I went into gskkyman and created a new database, and a certificate
request.  I sent that request to verisign and received a cert.  I loaded
that cert into the HFS but can't get it loaded into the key ring.  I get
messages like: 

Unable to import certificate.
Status 0x03353024 - Issuer certificate not found.

Or

Label is not unique in request and key databases.

When I try the various options.

I am so close, but wondering what steps I missed.

Dennis

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Not that it wouldn't happen here...

2007-09-11 Thread Gary Green
I know it's not Friday but it's another case of foreign workers stealing 
information.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9035278source=NLT_VVRnlid=37

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