Re: HATS support for IND$FILE or ISPF C/S
- Original Message - From: Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 12:24 AM Subject: Re: HATS support for IND$FILE or ISPF C/S The underlying HATS code libraries, which include HACL, at the very least, support IND$FILE (and FTP, SFTP, etc.) My guess is it's unlikely the company you're dealing with exposed those functions in any way in the HATS Web presentation. It is often the case that HATS buyers also bought Host On-Demand (HOD). (That happens when they buy HATS using WebSphere Host Integration Solution part numbers.) You might want to ask them if they offer HOD access in addition to HATS access. Tim, So where's the doc on how to add an IND$FILE button to HATS? I've looked high and low at the HATS doc, but I can't find IND$FILE even mentioned. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFHSM - NO MIGRATE OF DSN
I must not be reading between the lines properly. If the dataset is being modified (or even read) frequently enough, it should not be a candidate for migration regardless of the management class. If it is not being modified, you don't need periodic backups; one will suffice for disaster recovery. Why do you allow a client to decide if data should be backed up? If you lose the dataset for any reason (head crash, JCL error, etc), you better hope he stipulated that in writing. (As a matter of data center policy, all non-page/spool disk datasets should be backed up upon creation and any subsequent modification.) Does the user work for a different company than the client? Shouldn't they coordinate their requirements? If the user just needs an occasional backup, you (or he) could issue the HBACK command at that time. -Original Message- From: esmie moo [mailto:snip] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DFHSM - NO MIGRATE OF DSN Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am in a quandry. A user has asked that a PDS not be migrated because it is a huge file (about 2,500 cylinders). I was able to satisfy his requirement, however, the MANAGEMENT CLASS which governs it has no backup attributes (client didn't want a backup) by DFHSM but the user wants a backup of the dsn. I think my only choice I have is to define the dsn in another MANAGEMENT Class and have DFHSM attributes for a backup done. Could there be another solution to my problem? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
why external CF not internal CF
Hi, Is there any shop using external CF, As I know only for the backup purpose in case one of CPU failed. Is there any performance improvement if using external CF. Why not using internal CPU? Any comment will be appreicated. Many thanks Tommy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to force initiator failure
#2 Short program to invoke CALLRTM for your own address space. ASID=0 is the default. IEF402I INIT FAILED IN ADDRESS SPACE 004E SYSTEM ABEND SBAD IEF402I DSS06ZSD FAILED IN ADDRESS SPACE 004E $HASP310 DSS06ZSD TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY SYSTEM ABEND SBAD $HASP310 INIT TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY Best Regards, Sam Knutson (GEICO) * * KILL MYSELF IN A SPECTACULAR FASHION * PUNCH ' SETCODE AC(1)' MUST BE APF FOR CALLRTM CALLRTM CSECT CALLRTM AMODE 31 CALLRTM RMODE ANY BAKR R14,R0 LRR12,R15 USING CALLRTM,R12 * MODESET KEY=ZERO,MODE=SUP CALLRTM REQ KEY 0 SUPV STATE * * CALLRTM MACRO INVOCATION * A 72 BYTE SAVE AREA IS REQUIRED AND MUST BE POINTED TO REGISTER 13 * LA 13,CALLRTM_SAVEAREA ASID OPTION REQUIRES SAVE AREA IN R13 CALLRTM TYPE=MEMTERM,COMPCOD=X'BAD',STEP=NO * EXIT DS0Y PR, YREGS CALLRTM_SAVEAREA DC18F'0' LTORG , LITERAL POOL GOES HERE CVT DSECT=YES IHAPSA END -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Stark Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How to force initiator failure I am refurbishing some console automation that restarts an initiator if it fails. Two questions: 1. Is there any new facility that does this automatically for a JES2- managed initiator? (WLM-managed initiators handle themselves) 2. Anyone know a good way to get an initiator to abend and terminate? (for testing) I tried running a simple program which gradually getmained all the user storage in a step with REGION=0M, but I got an aux storage shortage before I actually got all the memory. Perhaps I need to add page datasets, or write a more complex authorized program so I can get other subpools and be non-swappable. I'm pretty sure someone has plowed this ground before. This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ALESERV for an address space
anyone have dealing with JMON's setup...parm lists?? ENVIRON's -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ALESERV for an address space
Some of my trouble may have been due to an overlay. At any rate, this I do not understand: I cannot ALESERV ADD them unless I specify CHKEAX=NO. Yet I can immediately used the returned ALET to access the storage, thus proving that I do have EAX authority (which I should have, since I am running with AX=1). Why is CHKEAX=NO required? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:48:09 -0400, John Eells wrote: What Run Time Library license encumbrances are you talking about? I have a historic view. Once, long ago, we chose not to implement a product in PL/I because IBM took the position that each one of our customers would have been required to deal with IBM to obtain a PL/I license to use the RTL. IBM would not allow us to remarket the PL/I RTL bundled with our product. We found that unpalatable and chose another implementation language. Of course, LE relieved that problem, decades too late for us. Now, I see that METAL C is LE independent. But, I surmised, to be POSIX compliant it must have some RTL (well, I suppose it could all be done with macros, expanded at compile time. Unlikely.) So, I wondered whether this new RTL would come with new license requirements. Other plies in this thread have said, No. As for POSIX compliance, on the page Brian P. cited: http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/metalc/ ... I read: ... A starter set of functions for a system environment includes functions to test and manipulate memory and strings (like memcpy() and strcmp() ), to classify characters (such as isalpha() and islowerj() ), and to process text strings (using the printf() and sscanf() family of functions). ... ... Sounds encouraging. But reading further: ... Normal input-output functionality is not provided, but functions like sprintf() are. You can still enjoy the convenience of %-substitution in the format string; and you can emit the resulting string in a buffer, and then print this buffer using, for example, WTO. ... feels like a bait-and-switch. The printf() and sscanf() family of functions might not be fully implemented. ALGOL 60 failed in large part because of its lack of [n]ormal input-output functionality. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
Paul Gilmartin wrote: snip LE-independent, I see. Would it likewise be independent of Run Time Library license encumbrances, so ISVs could distribute compiled code to customers without the compiler licensed, and free of prelinker entanglements so the full facility of SMP/E maintenance with fine granularity could be exploited? snip Paul, What Run Time Library license encumbrances are you talking about? -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
On 1 Nov 2007 16:22:25 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) wrote: FSVO better, I guess. I assume XL C/C++ is better than PL/X like C/C++ is better than PL/I. And Windows is better than OS/2. I *liked* PL/I. Oh, well. C++ can't be as good as B-. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: why external CF not internal CF
Is there any shop using external CF Before system-managed duplexing, if you lost a physical CEC with an MVS and a CF on it, you would lose the entire SYSPLEX -- COLD START required. Now, it's not as much of an issue. But, some still feel more comfortable with external CF's. And, some have them because they had them separate back then and just kept it that way. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COPYMARK when using PSF printing on an Infoprint 65000
I believe the tool you need is Page Printer Formatting Aids (PPFA). -Original Message- From: Sheldon Davis [mailto:snip] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 7:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: COPYMARK when using PSF printing on an Infoprint 65000 Thanks for your response. How did you create the formdef? I am using the supplied forms and can't find the correct tool to do this. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ALESERV for an address space
I don't believe an AX of 1 is the same thing as EAX authority to an address space. At least that's my reading of the Extended Addressability Guide. - Original Message - From: Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: ALESERV for an address space Some of my trouble may have been due to an overlay. At any rate, this I do not understand: I cannot ALESERV ADD them unless I specify CHKEAX=NO. Yet I can immediately used the returned ALET to access the storage, thus proving that I do have EAX authority (which I should have, since I am running with AX=1). Why is CHKEAX=NO required? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
How to force initiator failure
I am refurbishing some console automation that restarts an initiator if it fails. Two questions: 1. Is there any new facility that does this automatically for a JES2- managed initiator? (WLM-managed initiators handle themselves) 2. Anyone know a good way to get an initiator to abend and terminate? (for testing) I tried running a simple program which gradually getmained all the user storage in a step with REGION=0M, but I got an aux storage shortage before I actually got all the memory. Perhaps I need to add page datasets, or write a more complex authorized program so I can get other subpools and be non-swappable. I'm pretty sure someone has plowed this ground before. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 Features summary
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:51:11 -0700, Steve Comstock wrote: If you omit the BLOCK CONTAINS clause, the default is BLOCK CONTAINS 1 RECORDS. (talk about not making semantic sense). It isn't even syntactically correct. Well, it is syntactically correct as far as the COBOL language goes. The syntax here only allows the plural form of RECORDS, regardless of the count. [snip] -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JMON
Any one that can help...we think it is a RACF issue but??? Getting following in JMON stc ..log when issued purge of a job from wbse on PC.. .Purge command got bad authorization for JOB07064 followed manual on RACF setup...but ??? z/OS1.7 WBSE 2.7 on windows XP -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to force initiator failure
Just to add... If the reason you are testing this is for VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS, that support restarts JES2 controlled initiators as well as WLM controlled. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:46:41 -0400, Knutson, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #2 Short program to invoke CALLRTM for your own address space. ASID=0 is the default. IEF402I INIT FAILED IN ADDRESS SPACE 004E SYSTEM ABEND SBAD IEF402I DSS06ZSD FAILED IN ADDRESS SPACE 004E $HASP310 DSS06ZSD TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY SYSTEM ABEND SBAD $HASP310 INIT TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY Best Regards, Sam Knutson (GEICO) * * KILL MYSELF IN A SPECTACULAR FASHION * PUNCH ' SETCODE AC(1)' MUST BE APF FOR CALLRTM CALLRTM CSECT CALLRTM AMODE 31 CALLRTM RMODE ANY BAKR R14,R0 LRR12,R15 USING CALLRTM,R12 * MODESET KEY=ZERO,MODE=SUP CALLRTM REQ KEY 0 SUPV STATE * * CALLRTM MACRO INVOCATION * A 72 BYTE SAVE AREA IS REQUIRED AND MUST BE POINTED TO REGISTER 13 * LA 13,CALLRTM_SAVEAREA ASID OPTION REQUIRES SAVE AREA IN R13 CALLRTM TYPE=MEMTERM,COMPCOD=X'BAD',STEP=NO * EXIT DS0Y PR, YREGS CALLRTM_SAVEAREA DC18F'0' LTORG , LITERAL POOL GOES HERE CVT DSECT=YES IHAPSA END -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Stark Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How to force initiator failure I am refurbishing some console automation that restarts an initiator if it fails. Two questions: 1. Is there any new facility that does this automatically for a JES2- managed initiator? (WLM-managed initiators handle themselves) 2. Anyone know a good way to get an initiator to abend and terminate? (for testing) I tried running a simple program which gradually getmained all the user storage in a step with REGION=0M, but I got an aux storage shortage before I actually got all the memory. Perhaps I need to add page datasets, or write a more complex authorized program so I can get other subpools and be non-swappable. I'm pretty sure someone has plowed this ground before. This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Metal C (was Re: PL/S ??)
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:28:49 -0500, Scott Fagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The runtime environment is only required if you make use of the services provided by the runtime environment. It also doesn't change the fact that HLASM is what is emitted. It is not like 'regular' C which cannot execute without an LE environment and the LE RTL linked with your program. Let's not forget the System Programming C (SPC) option, which has been around for many years. This was sold early on as a facility for writing exits and the like, and indeed it can be used for just about environment-free programming. It comes with a smaller-than-LE RTL, and you can provide your own heap and stack management routines. But it emits object code rather than HLASM statements, so you can't include inline assembler. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to force initiator failure
Mark, My reason for testing is that my automation code is trapping some messages which allegedly are issued during an initiator failure, determining the failing initiator number from stored data, and restarting the failed initiator once it leaves the planet. I want to do it a different way, so as to not have to store and maintain all of that data, but I still need to determine the ASID to INIT # mapping. Without an actual test, I'm sure that I'll get it wrong. I like Sam's spectacular suicide program with the CALLRTM. Looks fun! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
I could differ with your statement ...and Windows is better than OS/2. I had an OS/2 system that supported a P/370 card that ran VM/ESA which supported local and dial-in lines on a 3174 that went over 2-1/2 years before it had a scheduled re-boot... Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PL/S ?? On 1 Nov 2007 16:22:25 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) wrote: FSVO better, I guess. I assume XL C/C++ is better than PL/X like C/C++ is better than PL/I. And Windows is better than OS/2. I *liked* PL/I. Oh, well. C++ can't be as good as B-. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CDE chain for LPA
Peter, Thanks for your notes. This one, plus your old post from 1999, has delivered a good description for LPA. Concerning your question, I feel it hard to answer. Actually I'm not in the process of doing any 'meaningful' task. I don't know whether 'curiosity' could be a reasonable explanation. I apologize for my not making it clear at the very beginning. On 11/1/07, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you trying to accomplish or find out? CSVQUERY will locate information about an LPA module. CSVINFO can run through all the LPA modules given your exit routine control for each. Those are the intended interfaces made available by z/OS. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- Best Regards, Johnny Luo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to force initiator failure
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 11/02/2007 12:43:46 PM: My reason for testing is that my automation code is trapping some messages which allegedly are issued during an initiator failure, determining the failing initiator number from stored data, and restarting the failed initiator once it leaves the planet. I want to do it a different way, so as to not have to store and maintain all of that data, but I still need to determine the ASID to INIT # mapping. Without an actual test, I'm sure that I'll get it wrong. I believe that JES2 will automatically restart a JES2-managed initiator which terminates for any reason other than a $PI command, so no automation should be required. I think you can demonstrate this by stopping or cancelling an initiator: P INIT,A=asid C INIT,A=asid Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Metal C (was Re: PL/S ??)
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 01:24:13 -0500, Bruce Hewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does say! You can use the METAL C option to generate code that does not have Language Environment runtime dependencies. And it also says! Metal C Runtime Library The Metal C Runtime Library is a new base element of z/OS and is completely independent of Language Environment. The library modules are made available in the link pack area (LPA) during IPL. Both AMODE 31 and 64 are supported, as long as you are calling the functions in primary address space control (ASC) mode. The library functions make use of the default linkage provided by the compilers METAL option, which requires a small contiguous stack that uses the standard save area convention that z/OS assembler programmers are familiar with. The runtime environment is only required if you make use of the services provided by the runtime environment. It also doesn't change the fact that HLASM is what is emitted. It is not like 'regular' C which cannot execute without an LE environment and the LE RTL linked with your program. Scott Fagen Enterprise Systems Management -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
OMPROUTE help please
So, I set up and started OMPROUTE in my sandbox. OSPF_INTERFACE IP_address = 134.121.143.7 Name = ETH3 Subnet_mask = 255.255.255.0 MTU = 65535; OSPF_INTERFACE IP_address = 134.121.1.58 Name = ETH1 Subnet_mask = 255.255.248.0 MTU = 65535; OSPF_INTERFACE IP_address = 192.168.1.1 Name = HIPERLFF Subnet_mask = 255.255.255.0 MTU = 65535; In TCPIP.ETC.OMPROUTE.CONF And: DEVICE WSUOSA MPCIPA NONROUTER AUTORESTART LINKETH1IPAQENET WSUOSA VLANID 100 ; DEVICE WSUSRV MPCIPA NONROUTER AUTORESTART LINKETH3IPAQENET WSUSRV VLANID 73 ; DEVICE IUTIQDFFMPCIPA LINKHIPERLFFIPAQIDIO IUTIQDFF ; ; HOME 134.121.1.58 ETH1 134.121.143.7 ETH3 192.168.1.1HIPERLFF In the TCPIP profile. I had connectivity via the 1.58 and not via 143.7 I went home as the network guy I wanted to talk to was gone. 4 and a half hours later I get a call. It seems that I had declared my sandbox to be the gateway for the 143.xxx subnet. This was not well received. What did I do wrong ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:08:02 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, I see that METAL C is LE independent. But, I surmised, to be POSIX compliant it must have some RTL (well, I suppose it could all be done with macros, expanded at compile time. Unlikely.) So, I wondered whether this new RTL would come with new license requirements. Other plies in this thread have said, No. Ok, let's not let the train go too far off the tracks. This thread diverged on the discussion of PL/(S, AS, X) vs. Metal C. The PL/... variants: - ARE NOT Posix compliant - DO NOT have a runtime library - DO NOT have standard services for input and output - DO NOT have built in heap/stack/storage management (other than a primitive to simply GETMAIN/STORAGE (OBTAIN) an area to accomodate the savearea and variables declared by the module - ARE insufficient for general purpose programming in many other ways, just like assembler Then, what good is PL/...? System level programming, which implies a fundamental binding to the underlying operating system and the hardware (and in many cases, oddball environments - think SRB, system locks...). Other than the fact that it is a 3GL, it really doesn't purport to be a general purpose language for anything. This is role that Metal C chooses to play for us unwashed masses. It is for systems level activities on a particular class of system. That being said, it's up to the programmer to deal with the above problems in their own way. Do I get input from SYSIN? Open a DCB. Do I use an operator REPLY for input? Issue a WTOR. Do I use MODIFY? Extract the CIB. Just like assembler. Additionally, I'd suspect that I could find a bright C programmer and get them useful on METAL C faster than PL/X. IBM doesn't do anything without some level of informed self interest. Perhaps they are having trouble locating good PL/X programmers themselves? Bait and switch? I don't think so. Unrealistic expectations? More likely. Scott Fagen Enterprise Systems Management -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: why external CF not internal CF
External CFs come in handy when doing power-on-resets. You can move your persistent structures out to it before the P-O-R, and then back again when done. Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: why external CF not internal CF Hi, Is there any shop using external CF, As I know only for the backup purpose in case one of CPU failed. Is there any performance improvement if using external CF. Why not using internal CPU? Any comment will be appreicated. Many thanks Tommy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html == Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/en/disclaimer_email_ib.html == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:38:32 -0500, Kammer, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could differ with your statement ...and Windows is better than OS/2. ... Oh, my. and you think _I_ don't difffer with that statement? If you thought I meant that Windows is better than OS/2 then you missed the whole point of my (not very significant) statement. Sorry. I don't know the emoticon for sarcasm. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to force initiator failure
-Original Message- From: Bob Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:19 am Subject: How to force initiator failure Anyone know a good way to get an initiator to abend and terminate? (for testing) You can do this with TMON/MVS if you have the product.? Display job names active, select the initiator you want to blow away, display the menu of what to do with that address space, and select terminate with extreme prejudice (not exactly what it's called).? The code issues a CALLRTM against the selected address space. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Metal C (was Re: PL/S ??)
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:55:08 -0500, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's not forget the System Programming C (SPC) option, which has been around for many years. This was sold early on as a facility for writing exits and the like, and indeed it can be used for just about environment-free programming. It comes with a smaller-than-LE RTL, and you can provide your own heap and stack management routines. But it emits object code rather than HLASM statements, so you can't include inline assembler. Actually, I _do_ try to forget that g, as you needed to manage and connect up your own runtime environments to the routines as they got control. Not particularly friendly for code that might have high reentrancy requirements or could execute in any address space (like system exits). With all due apologies to Anuja, Scott Fagen Enterprise Systems Management -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading from a z890 to a z9 BC
The z9 requires a high-level of the HMC program. IMHO, the easiest way to get this new level is to get a new HMC. In our case, we upgraded from a 7060-H30 to a z9 BC. The existing 7060 HMC could not be upgraded to control a z9 and as far as I know the HMC version shipped with a z9 can't be used to control a G5/G6 processor. As you are running z-series, it is possible that you can use your existing HMCs, but you will almost certainly have to upgrade the level of the HMC code to do so. Check with IBM. Nigel Salway -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:20:36 -0500, Scott Fagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Ok, let's not let the train go too far off the tracks. This thread diverged on the discussion of PL/(S, AS, X) vs. Metal C. ... Then, what good is PL/...? System level programming, ... ... This is role that Metal C chooses to play for us unwashed masses. ... ... us ...??? As in _you_? If IBM started using Metal C then the arguments against making PL/x available would apply to METAL C, too. Are you (plural) going have to switch to some super Metal C, or am I reading too much into one little word? Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OMPROUTE help please
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:53:49 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: It seems that I had declared my sandbox to be the gateway for the 143.xxx subnet. Something similar happened to us, some years ago. As a result, we make sure that z/OS routing information is mostly ignored by the first router we connect to. The only thing they accept from z/OS is our host routes. They ignore our default route or any other routing data coming from z/OS OMPROUTE. This is done using routing filter commands in the router. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Metal C (was Re: PL/S ??)
Tony Harminc wrote: Let's not forget the System Programming C (SPC) option, which has been around for many years. This was sold early on as a facility for writing exits and the like, and indeed it can be used for just about environment-free programming. It comes with a smaller-than-LE RTL, and you can provide your own heap and stack management routines. But it emits object code rather than HLASM statements, so you can't include inline assembler. We use SPC to support products that run in z/OS, z/VSE, and CMS. We have our own run-time library. METAL C looks good, but I haven't seen any SOD about providing its LPA-resident library functions in other (non-z/OS) environments. That seems to imply we will be stuck with SPC for the foreseeable future. Hopefully, IBM won't do something stupid like desupport it. They've already de-emphasized its development to the point where we've had to start policing them to be sure they don't mess things up when people work on it that don't understand the big picture. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
Patrick O'Keefe wrote: ... us ...??? As in _you_? If IBM started using Metal C then the arguments against making PL/x available would apply to METAL C, too. Are you (plural) going have to switch to some super Metal C, or am I reading too much into one little word? AFAIK, Computer Associates (Scott Fagen's employer) does not use PL/X. It is strictly for use inside IBM. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: why external CF not internal CF
Tommy Tsui wrote: Hi, Is there any shop using external CF, As I know only for the backup purpose in case one of CPU failed. Is there any performance improvement if using external CF. Why not using internal CPU? Any comment will be appreicated. There are no more real external CFs. For the discussion I define external CF as a CF LPAR located on CPC (more precisely: CEC) which doesn't host any z/OS LPAR from *the same* sysplex. To simplify no z/OS and CF reside on same machine - this is external CF. To have or not to have external CF. That is the question. YES, HAVE EXTERNAL CF. Machine with both CF and z/OS is SPOF (Single Point Of Failure). If it fails, you loose data. You don't want it, do you ? This is the point. If you want to accept this risk, no, not want: HAVE TO ACCEPT IT DUE TO BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, then don't buy another CPC for CF purposes. However from redundancy point of view you should have at least 3 boxes: z/OS 1, z/OS 2 and external CF. Note: you should have at least another CF, but it can be located with z/OS. You treat it as a backup for CF1. SMCFSD (System Managed CF Structure Duplexing). You can have structures duplexed (it is done at structure level, not CF level). It relieves requirement for external CF, because CF content (structures) is duplexed. However it costs you more CPU cycles. Your bill for z/OS will be higher, assuming similar performance. What is cheaper - software or another CF ? I don't know, I'm sure YMMV. My $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2007 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci opacony) wynosi 118.064.140 z. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchwa XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: why external CF not internal CF
I'm not sure that system managed duplexing costs significantly more in MVS cycles. With this kind of duplexing, the CFs talk directly to each other as well as to their respective MVS LPARs. Applications do not themselves mirror structures, and some of the overhead of duplexing is handled by ICF engines. I'm pretty sure that two CECs with ICF LPARs and system managed duplexing would be cheaper than the cost associated with maintaining a third CEC that had no other purpose than XCF services. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] LTIBANK.COM.PLTo Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: why external CF not internal CF 11/02/2007 12:56 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Tommy Tsui wrote: Hi, Is there any shop using external CF, As I know only for the backup purpose in case one of CPU failed. Is there any performance improvement if using external CF. Why not using internal CPU? Any comment will be appreicated. snip SMCFSD (System Managed CF Structure Duplexing). You can have structures duplexed (it is done at structure level, not CF level). It relieves requirement for external CF, because CF content (structures) is duplexed. However it costs you more CPU cycles. Your bill for z/OS will be higher, assuming similar performance. What is cheaper - software or another CF ? I don't know, I'm sure YMMV. My $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JMON
Almost all RACF authorization failures have an ICH408 message in the system log. Does this? -Original Message- From: Ron Wells [mailto:snip] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JMON Any one that can help...we think it is a RACF issue but??? Getting following in JMON stc ..log when issued purge of a job from wbse on PC.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CSA 'above the bar'
Hello: Am I correct in believing that the method to obtain the equivalent of CSA above the bar is to use macro IARV64 with the REQUEST=GETSHARED option? Thank you. Paul -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to force initiator failure
Bob: Jim's right. See below P INIT,A=22 IEF404I INIT - ENDED - TIME=17.26.07 $HASP395 INIT ENDED S INIT.INIT,,,JES2,SUB=JES2 $HASP250 INIT PURGED -- (JOB KEY WAS C13EA1E6) IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED. JOBNAME=*UNAVAIL, ASID=0022. $HASP100 INIT ON STCINRDR IEF196I IGD100I VIO ALLOCATED TO DDNAME SYS3 DATACLAS () IEF695I START INIT WITH JOBNAME INIT IS ASSIGNED TO USER START2 , GROUP SYS1 $HASP373 INIT STARTED IEF403I INIT - STARTED - TIME=17.26.10 $HASP309 INIT 1INACTIVE C=AH Adam - Original Message - From: Bob Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: How to force initiator failure Mark, My reason for testing is that my automation code is trapping some messages which allegedly are issued during an initiator failure, determining the failing initiator number from stored data, and restarting the failed initiator once it leaves the planet. I want to do it a different way, so as to not have to store and maintain all of that data, but I still need to determine the ASID to INIT # mapping. Without an actual test, I'm sure that I'll get it wrong. I like Sam's spectacular suicide program with the CALLRTM. Looks fun! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JMON
No RACF error... What we see is JMON syslog error... Purge command got bad authorization for JOB07064 Nothing in jes syslog.. We can PURGE output from same owner ID as logged into system.. But that user can not delete another's user sysout...and we have given authority for them to do so...as they currently do in SDSF.. followed manual on RACF but ??? -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:33:22 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... AFAIK, Computer Associates (Scott Fagen's employer) does not use PL/X. It is strictly for use inside IBM. ... Oops. Are there 2 Scott Fagens, or did I miss a job change in the last couple years? In either case, I should be more careful. Sorry. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
Patrick O'Keefe wrote: Oops. Are there 2 Scott Fagens, or did I miss a job change in the last couple years? In either case, I should be more careful. Sorry. In our business, there is most certainly only one, true Scott Fagen! And, his charming wife, Nicole, is a regular SHARE presenter! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:59:48 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... In our business, there is most certainly only one, true Scott Fagen! And, his charming wife, Nicole, is a regular SHARE presenter! ... Well, a little Googling tells me I'm only a couple months out of date. That's pretty good for me.Scott's 21 years midst the clean vs. a couple months among the unwashed masses. That was too fast a change for me. I never could cope with change. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
On Nov 2, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:33:22 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... AFAIK, Computer Associates (Scott Fagen's employer) does not use PL/X. It is strictly for use inside IBM. ... Oops. Are there 2 Scott Fagens, or did I miss a job change in the last couple years? In either case, I should be more careful. Sorry. Pat O'Keefe Pat, I was wondering the same thing. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Now I am going to have to look at email address's a lot more carefully. I respected the IBM Scott. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PL/S ??
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:26:10 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:59:48 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... In our business, there is most certainly only one, true Scott Fagen! And, his charming wife, Nicole, is a regular SHARE presenter! ... Well, a little Googling tells me I'm only a couple months out of date. That's pretty good for me.Scott's 21 years midst the clean vs. a couple months among the unwashed masses. That was too fast a change for me. I never could cope with change. A little Googling is a dangerous thing...especially when prompted by the one, true, notorious Ed Jaffe. Or is that the infamous? I keep forgetting. Well, I guess I have to be a little nice, he did indicate that my wife was charming. Thank you, Ed - Nicole Scott Fagen Enterprise Systems Management (and drifting way off topic) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: why external CF not internal CF
Skip Robinson wrote: I'm not sure that system managed duplexing costs significantly more in MVS cycles. With this kind of duplexing, the CFs talk directly to each other as well as to their respective MVS LPARs. Applications do not themselves mirror structures, and some of the overhead of duplexing is handled by ICF engines. Every write is approx. 3 times longer. During this time z/OS waits for response (assuming synchronous CF request). For the user it means more CPU (GP) usage. It is a cost in terms of GP purchase and WLC license. I'm pretty sure that two CECs with ICF LPARs and system managed duplexing would be cheaper than the cost associated with maintaining a third CEC that had no other purpose than XCF services. I think so. However one can have more sysplex members, even more sysplexes. In that case one can have rolling sysplex: CPC-01 CPC-02 CPC-03 MVS-A1 MVS-A2 CF--A1 MVS-B2 CF--B1 MVS--B1 CF--B2 CF--A2 3 machines: 01,02,03 2 sysplexes: A, B Each sysplex consist of 2 MVS and 2 CFs. CF-x1 is primary, CF-x2 is spare. We have two sysplexes on 3 machines. Both sysplexes are fault tolerant. If the configuration above contains many PUs enabled, then cost of third box (and ISC/ICB cards) is not so big when compared to total cost of z/System hardware. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2007 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci opacony) wynosi 118.064.140 z. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchwa XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: why external CF not internal CF
Dear all, Thanks all your comment. Actually, We have two physical cpu located in our local site and one cpu in DR site. Our local site CPU are connected with internal ICF and 9037 timer. IBM suggest to buy a external timer in order to implement the RLS. I don't think it is necessary. I dont' see any performance gain after using external CF execpt for redundancy. Our DR site almost 35km away from local site. How can we connect the CF to remote site with distance 35km...is this a point to using external CF??? thanks for help On 11/2/07, Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that system managed duplexing costs significantly more in MVS cycles. With this kind of duplexing, the CFs talk directly to each other as well as to their respective MVS LPARs. Applications do not themselves mirror structures, and some of the overhead of duplexing is handled by ICF engines. I'm pretty sure that two CECs with ICF LPARs and system managed duplexing would be cheaper than the cost associated with maintaining a third CEC that had no other purpose than XCF services. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] LTIBANK.COM.PLTo Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: why external CF not internal CF 11/02/2007 12:56 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Tommy Tsui wrote: Hi, Is there any shop using external CF, As I know only for the backup purpose in case one of CPU failed. Is there any performance improvement if using external CF. Why not using internal CPU? Any comment will be appreicated. snip SMCFSD (System Managed CF Structure Duplexing). You can have structures duplexed (it is done at structure level, not CF level). It relieves requirement for external CF, because CF content (structures) is duplexed. However it costs you more CPU cycles. Your bill for z/OS will be higher, assuming similar performance. What is cheaper - software or another CF ? I don't know, I'm sure YMMV. My $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CSA 'above the bar'
Paul Schuster wrote: Am I correct in believing that the method to obtain the equivalent of CSA above the bar is to use macro IARV64 with the REQUEST=GETSHARED option? That's the only common storage currently available above 2G. However, unlike CSA, it must be explicitly shared. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
