Re: How do you do a standalone restore in a virtual tape enviroment
yes - virtual tapes wil be duplexed. Question is how to get the starter/driving system up. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How do you do a standalone restore in a virtual tape enviroment
"Jennifer Currell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > yes - virtual tapes wil be duplexed. > Question is how to get the starter/driving system up. > I intended to say in my previous post: You should be able to do from your virtual tapes, similar as you do now from your real tapes. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:17:11 +0200, Albert Klimek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In the past we had a similar situation. The management had decided to remove CA Librarian. I can understand one would want to remove CA; after all, although I have no experience with Librarian, I do have experience with CA. No offence... >I know nothing about SCLM, but we have selected CVS/MVS for our purposes. Again, I have no real experience using either SCLM or CVS, but both only support well the versioning and give you (very) little life cycle (workflow) management. And it is precisely the life cycle management that I feel is important. >The special decision criteria for CVS on MVS: >- low cost solution by using Open Source Don't be fooled by the fact that you do not have to pay $$$ for acquiring the software. The real cost is in implementation, migration, training, etc. >I developed an ISPF-Frontend for ease of use and to control the workflow (test, quality-control, integration, production) You see: that is were your cost will go... > Therefore we are very flexible for future expansions. Sorry, no, you will not. Because you will have to do it all yourself and on your own. In my book you are always better of buying something than building it. My opinion. Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Invite to join nitwits ???
Anyone else get one ??? (I got 3). Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Invite to join nitwits ???
yeah, I got one too and have not bitten yet anyone up for belling the cat? /s/ tuco bonno Graduate, College of Conflict Management University of SouthEast Asia "I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! " -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: Friday, 20 June, 2008 05:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Invite to join nitwits ??? Anyone else get one ??? (I got 3). Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Antwort: Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
< You see: that is were your cost will go... I agree, it's a low cost solution, not for free. I made a simple calculation. If I buy a commercial software I had to pay the purchase price, I had to pay for implementation and then each year for maintenance. With the use of open source software, initially I have much effort, then this is rather low. Therefore my Company save money in the amount of my salary, month per month. Gesendet von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 20.06.2008 11:05 Bitte antworten an IBM Mainframe Discussion List An IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Kopie Thema Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:17:11 +0200, Albert Klimek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In the past we had a similar situation. The management had decided to remove CA Librarian. I can understand one would want to remove CA; after all, although I have no experience with Librarian, I do have experience with CA. No offence... >I know nothing about SCLM, but we have selected CVS/MVS for our purposes. Again, I have no real experience using either SCLM or CVS, but both only support well the versioning and give you (very) little life cycle (workflow) management. And it is precisely the life cycle management that I feel is important. >The special decision criteria for CVS on MVS: >- low cost solution by using Open Source Don't be fooled by the fact that you do not have to pay $$$ for acquiring the software. The real cost is in implementation, migration, training, etc. >I developed an ISPF-Frontend for ease of use and to control the workflow (test, quality-control, integration, production) You see: that is were your cost will go... > Therefore we are very flexible for future expansions. Sorry, no, you will not. Because you will have to do it all yourself and on your own. In my book you are always better of buying something than building it. My opinion. Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html VERLAGSGRUPPE WELTBILD GMBH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Augsburg Handelsregister Augsburg HRB 6035 Ust-ID-Nr: DE 127501299 Geschäftsführung: Carel Halff (Vorsitzender), Dr. Klaus Driever, Werner Ortner, Herbert Zoch Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Dr. Klaus Donaubauer
Re: How do you do a standalone restore in a virtual tape enviroment
Got the answer now. Thanks. see page 324 of the TS7740 Redbook. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247312.html?Open Standalone Mount This allows defined users with the correct authority to instruct a VTS to manually mount a virtual volume on a virtual drive. This function enables you to mount a logical volume on a selected virtual drive. If you have an operating system image written to a logical volume, performing a standalone mount of a logical volume to a virtual drive can allow you to boot from that mounted logical volume. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?
One might look at the product from NICUS at www.nicus.com It accepts many types of inputs to produce the results on a PC. I have not given the product a close look for I only bumped into it at an IT Financial conference a few weeks ago. It even has a toolkit for migrating NeuMics to MXG. jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for consult help getting to 31-bit CICS Cobol
You could also look at MHTRAN2 to do your COBOL conversion. I used it to convert a whole portfolio of COBOL source and copybook code (around 1300 programs and related copybooks). I don't believe it has a "TRACKING" component to help you keep track of what has been converted and what has not. But it did a good job for me getting the code changed and ready for re-compile and re-link. Since I was the only one working on the project, I did not need a sophisticated source code portfolio manager to track what had been changed and converted. I did this conversion over 10 years ago, so my experience with the product is a bit dated. I used SAS to unload the source code libraries, build JCL streams of mass translates and compiles, etc. Prince Software. http://www.princesoftware.com/pages/mhtran2.html Kriss Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] (309) 438-3101 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix
Rob, We tried TRACERTE but there is no problem there, one hop a couple of milliseconds. We will work on traces and thank you for all the tracks you gave. François Paré -Message d'origine- De : IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Rob Schramm Envoyé : 19 juin 2008 17:40 À : IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Objet : Re: Slow FTP transfer from z/OS to Unix François, Honestly, I am not sure what to make of the problem. But for general problem solving, I would ensure that files being transferred are all the same. That the direction is the same. I am always suspicious of files, ftp options, network paths (thru routers, cables and firewalls) and MTU. I have seen or been part of a number of bizarre TCP/IP problems over the years and anything you can do to normalize your testing/verification will help yield tests that will uncover the real culprit. problems... firewall rules gone bad, firewall loose cables, tar pits, packet fragments not being accepted, bad routing, excessive retransmitting, ftp bugs, osa bugs, windows bugs (exhausted windows resource causing the IP stack to report errors) .. I am sure that there are some choice ones I am forgetting... like s0c4 on a vba file ftp, port scanners for security killing boxes. Rob p.s. You might also consider running TRACE on the LINUX box as well. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving from CA-MIM to GRS.
-Original Message- From: Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: vrijdag 20 juni 2008 8:30 To: 'IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU' Subject: Re: Moving from CA-MIM to GRS. "Peter X. DeFabritus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > I found a Techdoc as a possibility: > > http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD103317 > > -- Thanks, I will study it, it looks useful at first glance. Kees. At a second glance, it is mostly a list of reasons why the conversion is not easy to accomplish and why it is advisable to hire IBM to do it. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Remote Tape Backup
Hi, Senior management has this vision of moving our Data Center to a new location and having the tape processing in another. Don't ask me why or how come because I have no idea. Does anyone else do this ? What kind of technology would you need ? Dark fiber keeps coming up in conversation. Any info, white papers, opinions would be greatly appreciated. TIA Dean Dean Montevago Sr. Systems Specialist Visiting Nurse Service of New York (212) 609 - 9608 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LISTDSI alternative?
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:34:08 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >How was the temp panel data set allocated? Perhaps by a profile >or by JCL, or by a DYNALLOC in a Rexx exec? If the last, the >RTDDN operand of BPXWDYN returns the DDNAME to you. > Finding the DDNAME wasn't the problem. I generate a random DDNAME [1] I use TSO ALLOCATE. The problem was I needed to know the exact data set name allocated so I could do a 2nd ALLOCATE of the temp PDS with member name included to write the panel PDS member with EXECIO. When the data set was allocated to VIO I could not find the DSN using LISTDSI in order to do the 2nd allocate. Using all the proper LM* ISPF services is a little slower, but it is the correct way to handle it and it always works. Current code: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsfiles/iplinfo.txt look for "BROWSE_ISPF:" [1] IPLINFO history: The ddname was was also part of the DSN going back to when I allocated a non-temp dsn for the panel lib and output of IPLINFO. That way there would not be a duplicate dsn if you executed IPLINFO multiple times recursively (or in other logical sessions), were blown off TSO or something failed in the exec or if you But that would leave an orphan data set under your userid HLQ - similar to what could happen with ISPF list/log dsns. Which why I wanted to change it all to temp dsns. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How do you do a standalone restore in a virtual tape enviroment
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:43:08 -0500, Jennifer Currell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >yes - virtual tapes wil be duplexed. >Question is how to get the starter/driving system up. > Need more details. Do you use a recovery vendor? If so, don't they have a floor / starter system? If not (or is) and you have your own DASD, you can keep a one or 2 pack rescue system around (examples to build one on my web site). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving from CA-MIM to GRS.
Kees, I believe that IBM has specialized teams to perform this - people who know both GRS and MIM in-depth. Getting the RNL's wrong could be disastrous - and may not even surface for a while. Afterall, this is your production data at risk here - and if I was in your shoes, I would give these guys a call... Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: 20 June 2008 14:13 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Moving from CA-MIM to GRS. -Original Message- From: Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: vrijdag 20 juni 2008 8:30 To: 'IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU' Subject: Re: Moving from CA-MIM to GRS. "Peter X. DeFabritus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > I found a Techdoc as a possibility: > > http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD103317 > > -- Thanks, I will study it, it looks useful at first glance. Kees. At a second glance, it is mostly a list of reasons why the conversion is not easy to accomplish and why it is advisable to hire IBM to do it. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?
Perl got mentioned. I suspect the problem - if there IS a problem - is going to be VBS records. But then I don't know Perl. I have a side interest in "seeing modern stuff demonstrated on z/OS" and a German colleague whose whole "day job" appears to be the same. Maybe I should work with HIM to demo Perl going against SMF. Note: Perl would have to cope well with things like triplets. Any other languages need to be demo'ed against SMF? Or similar truculent data? :-) Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Twitter: MartinPacker Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question Edward Jaffe asks (rhetorically?): >A Linux_for_z LPAR has the ability to "steer" the hardware TOD clock? Not to my knowledge, no. Assume that all functions of Linux are implemented (outside of I/O specific) on a z box. With time functions being part of that, wouldn't Linux for z/Series systems be able to update the TOD? Assuming that this is true, what effect would this have on other LPARs in that CEC? So, if the effect is not deleterious, then is this not an "OPEN" source and cheap way of doing this without having to pay IBM for STP code? Since I do not have a CEC to play with, I don't have the ability to test this. But it seems to me that if one could get standalone time, it could be quickly tested. Regards, Steve Thompson -- All opinions expressed by me are my own and may not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports?
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Packer > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:30 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: replacing SAS for SMF reports? > > Perl got mentioned. I suspect the problem - if there IS a > problem - is > going to be VBS records. But then I don't know Perl. Can Perl read z/OS datasets? Or only UNIX files? If the latter, then you'd need to either copy the SMF data to a UNIX file, or maybe use Dovetail's "fromdsn" to pipe the dataset contents to the Perl script. In either case, Perl is only going to see a stream of bytes. Which could be a problem unless that stream includes the RDW (which fromdsn can do) so that Perl will know how long each record is. I don't know if it is possible to "reconstruct" SMF records into individual records if the RDW is missing. I would also be a bit concerned with easy use of SMF/RMF timestamps. That is the main reason that I love SAS for SMF/RMF processing. > > I have a side interest in "seeing modern stuff demonstrated > on z/OS" and a > German colleague whose whole "day job" appears to be the > same. Maybe I > should work with HIM to demo Perl going against SMF. Note: > Perl would have > to cope well with things like triplets. I think Perl could do this using the "substr" function, along with the "unpack" function. That's what I do in REXX. > > Any other languages need to be demo'ed against SMF? Or > similar truculent > data? :-) I did some work using Java, but a combination of lack of time and a decrease in interest (it is difficult!) put the kabosh on that project. > > Martin > > Martin Packer -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Problems that occur in production
Hello, I'm looking for information about problems that could occur in production with Cobol programs and that could generate abend. I would like to find a description and how to prevent them before they occur. For instance, I think that it could be interesting to avoid moving alphanumeric variables into numeric variable without checking them by using a IF NUMERIC or moving data into another that is shorter or avoid closing file or never check array boundaries... Do you see other important cases related to performance or robustness? Thanks in advance. Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Executing multiple console commands in different job steps
Hello, I have the need to execute multiple console commands in a batch job. I have used the "// COMMAND 'command operand'" JCL statement as well as an IEFBR14 with the command in the IEFBR14 job but everything I have tried gets executed immediately. I have not been able to come up with a way to execute console commands in separate steps of a batch job when the step runs, they all execute immediately. I'd like a very simple solution to this if anyone has one? Thanks, Kurt __ The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Network Time Protocol (NTP) client support question
An OS running in an LPAR cannot change the hardware clock, it can only modify it's own view of time, which is maintained (IIRC) as an offset to the true hardware clock. >>> "Thompson, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/20/2008 9:49 AM >>> Assume that all functions of Linux are implemented (outside of I/O specific) on a z box. With time functions being part of that, wouldn't Linux for z/Series systems be able to update the TOD? Assuming that this is true, what effect would this have on other LPARs in that CEC? So, if the effect is not deleterious, then is this not an "OPEN" source and cheap way of doing this without having to pay IBM for STP code? Since I do not have a CEC to play with, I don't have the ability to test this. But it seems to me that if one could get standalone time, it could be quickly tested. Regards, Steve Thompson -- All opinions expressed by me are my own and may not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -- Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Executing multiple console commands in different job steps
If your site is controlling the console command and you have authority to do so, try adding the batch TSO JCL & doing something like: //DISPLAY EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * CONSOLE NAME(JDDISLAY) D A,L END /* -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timmerman, Kurt Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Executing multiple console commands in different job steps Hello, I have the need to execute multiple console commands in a batch job. I have used the "// COMMAND 'command operand'" JCL statement as well as an IEFBR14 with the command in the IEFBR14 job but everything I have tried gets executed immediately. I have not been able to come up with a way to execute console commands in separate steps of a batch job when the step runs, they all execute immediately. I'd like a very simple solution to this if anyone has one? Thanks, Kurt __ The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Executing multiple console commands in different job steps
Timmerman, Kurt wrote: > Hello, > > > > I have the need to execute multiple console commands in a batch job. I > have used the "// COMMAND 'command operand'" JCL statement as well as an > IEFBR14 with the command in the IEFBR14 job but everything I have tried > gets executed immediately. I have not been able to come up with a way to > execute console commands in separate steps of a batch job when the step > runs, they all execute immediately. I'd like a very simple solution to > this if anyone has one? > > > > Thanks, > > Kurt > > > > > Take a look at File 246: Issue Console Commands from Batch on the CBT Tape (WWW.CBTTAPE.ORG) -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out. Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Executing multiple console commands in different job steps
i have a program that uses the svc 34 interface to issue commands - i can send it to you if you want. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Executing multiple console commands in different job steps Timmerman, Kurt wrote: > Hello, > > > > I have the need to execute multiple console commands in a batch job. I > have used the "// COMMAND 'command operand'" JCL statement as well as an > IEFBR14 with the command in the IEFBR14 job but everything I have tried > gets executed immediately. I have not been able to come up with a way to > execute console commands in separate steps of a batch job when the step > runs, they all execute immediately. I'd like a very simple solution to > this if anyone has one? > > > > Thanks, > > Kurt > > > > > Take a look at File 246: Issue Console Commands from Batch on the CBT Tape (WWW.CBTTAPE.ORG) -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out. Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892-1984) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Invite to join nitwits ???
In a message dated 6/20/2008 5:20:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for belling the cat? >> Report SPAM ought to suffice... **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Reallocating temp dsn (was: LISTDSI alternative?)
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:20:07 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: > >I use TSO ALLOCATE. The problem was I needed to know the exact data >set name allocated so I could do a 2nd ALLOCATE of the temp PDS with >member name included to write the panel PDS member with EXECIO. >When the data set was allocated to VIO I could not find the DSN using >LISTDSI in order to do the 2nd allocate. Using all the proper LM* ISPF >services is a little slower, but it is the correct way to handle it and it >always works. > >Current code: > http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsfiles/iplinfo.txt >look for "BROWSE_ISPF:" > Thanks. Uh, yah. Been there; couldn't do that (but I didn't try LM*). If I use BPXWDYN( 'alloc RTDDN(DD) RTVOL(V) RTDSN(DS) ...' ) to allocate it to DASD, I can process it with EXECIO using the returned DDNAME, and later reallocate it to a different DDNAME using the returned volume and dsn. But if I allocate it to VIO, the returned volume and dsn are insufficient to reallocate it. Circumventions: o I don't use VIO. o I pass the returned ddname to the utility in an alternate ddname parameter. o I allocate to the DDNAME I intend to use later. This can look bizarre: call BPXWDYN( 'alloc dd(SYSIN) unit(VIO) ...' ) 'EXECIO' stem.0 'DISKW SYSIN (stem stem.' As someone suggested earlier, who needs VIO nowadays? But the academic question remains: Is it possible to dynamically reallocate a VIO data set to a different DDNAME? Rexx? Otherwise (other than JCL referback)? How does JCL do it? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Reallocating temp dsn (was: LISTDSI alternative?)
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:52:09 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Circumventions: > >o I don't use VIO. Can't control what other shops use or do in SMS code. > >o I pass the returned ddname to the utility in an alternate ddname parameter. > >o I allocate to the DDNAME I intend to use later. This can look bizarre: > >call BPXWDYN( 'alloc dd(SYSIN) unit(VIO) ...' ) >'EXECIO' stem.0 'DISKW SYSIN (stem stem.' Again, I needed to do the EXECIO to a PDS member. > >As someone suggested earlier, who needs VIO nowadays? Can't control what other shops use or do in SMS code. >But the academic >question remains: Is it possible to dynamically reallocate a VIO data >set to a different DDNAME? Rexx? Otherwise (other than JCL referback)? >How does JCL do it? > -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving from CA-MIM to GRS.
I've done a MIM to GRS Star conversion at two different shops, and I thought it was pretty easy. Its easy IF: SYS-plex = GRS-plex = SMS-plex = TAPE-DEVICE-SHARING-plex It is NOT easy if you HAVE to share dasd beyond the boundary of a sysplex. In my case, I fixed that first, and then once the Sysplex boundary was the same as the shared-dasd boundary, then the project was easy. My opinion. Brian On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:12:37 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote: >"Peter X. DeFabritus" wrote in message >> I found a Techdoc as a possibility: >> >> http://www- 03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD103317 >> >> -- > >Thanks, > >I will study it, it looks useful at first glance. > >Kees. > > >At a second glance, it is mostly a list of reasons why the conversion is >not easy to accomplish and why it is advisable to hire IBM to do it. > >Kees. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Problems that occur in production
In a message dated 6/20/2008 8:58:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a IF NUMERIC or moving data into another that is shorter or avoid closing file or never check array boundaries... Do you see other important cases related to performance or robustness? Thanks in advance. >> Regression testing is a long time science. There are tools and methodologies for just about every facet of IT. Google for Regression testing software. One that looked promising and get a triple buzzword bingo pretty rapidly: _http://www.rttsweb.com/services/?_kk=regression%20testing&_kt=80adb2a4-6141-4 804-8056-9a508e440316&gclid=CNDYh5-qg5QCFRGHQAodEyedVw_ (http://www.rttsweb.com/services/?_kk=regression%20testing&_kt=80adb2a4-6141-4804-8056-9a508e440316&; gclid=CNDYh5-qg5QCFRGHQAodEyedVw) **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Stupid Question of the day.
I am going to do a migration from OS/390 2.10 to zOS 1.9. The mainframe was supposed to go away six years ago, however some of the applications have been migrated off, but other still remain. Change in management decision to keep the mainframe as a viable platform and upgrade it with new hardware and software. However that is not my question, we run a shared JES2 spool between multiple LPARS a programmer wants to logon to TSO several times using the same user id. Today we can not do it , you get a jcl error. Has this changed with the newer releases of the operating systems? I thought I would ask before I started digging into it. Thanks for any help. Frank W Sabo Jr. SR. Systems Administrator Giant Eagle Inc. Phone: 412 967-3764 Fax:412 967-6120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving from CA-MIM to GRS.
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:29:10 -0500, Brian Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've done a MIM to GRS Star conversion at two different shops, and I thought >it was pretty easy. > >Its easy IF: > >SYS-plex = GRS-plex = SMS-plex = TAPE-DEVICE-SHARING-plex > >It is NOT easy if you HAVE to share dasd beyond the boundary of a sysplex. >In my case, I fixed that first, and then once the Sysplex boundary was the >same as the shared-dasd boundary, then the project was easy. > >My opinion. > Ditto. MIM displays help a lot. ATS star can also handle foreign tapes if you can't make sysplex = TAPE-DEVICE-SHARING-plex (but MIA is still an option on its own as is IBM ATAM (Automated Tape Allocation Manager). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Stupid Question of the day.
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:29:33 -0400, Sabo, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am going to do a migration from OS/390 2.10 to zOS 1.9. The mainframe was supposed to go away six years ago, however some of the applications have been migrated off, but other still remain. Change in management decision to keep the mainframe as a viable platform and upgrade it with new hardware and software. However that is not my question, we run a shared JES2 spool between multiple LPARS a programmer wants to logon to TSO several times using the same user id. Today we can not do it , you get a jcl error. Has this changed with the newer releases of the operating systems? I thought I would ask before I started digging into it. > Look for $SNGLTSO on CBT file 434 or the JOBs/Doc section of my web site (URL below). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Stupid Question of the day.
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:38:09 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:29:33 -0400, Sabo, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >>I am going to do a migration from OS/390 2.10 to zOS 1.9. The mainframe was >supposed to go away six years ago, however some of the applications have >been migrated off, but other still remain. Change in management decision to >keep the mainframe as a viable platform and upgrade it with new hardware and >software. However that is not my question, we run a shared JES2 spool >between multiple LPARS a programmer wants to logon to TSO several times >using the same user id. Today we can not do it , you get a jcl error. Has JCL error? Which? I'd more expect the additional LOGON attempts to hang on ENQ. >this changed with the newer releases of the operating systems? I thought I >would ask before I started digging into it. > We've long accomplished this by configuring MIM not to propagate a certain ENQ. No one complains. The last session to LOGOFF owns the updates to the ISPF profile. I've heard of no complaints; I've heard of no data set corruptions (the window is tiny); backups are available; and it's not Shmuel's dog. >Look for $SNGLTSO on CBT file 434 or the JOBs/Doc section of my web >site (URL below). > >z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ >Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Executing multiple console commands in different job steps
Checkout ALEXCMDS on the share tape. You can do that by setting timers. Edouard A. Myers Senior Information Technology Specialist Office of the Chief Technology Officer DC Government 222 Massachusetts Ave, NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20001 Phone : 202-727-4017 Fax: 202-727-3880 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.octo.dc.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timmerman, Kurt Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Executing multiple console commands in different job steps Hello, I have the need to execute multiple console commands in a batch job. I have used the "// COMMAND 'command operand'" JCL statement as well as an IEFBR14 with the command in the IEFBR14 job but everything I have tried gets executed immediately. I have not been able to come up with a way to execute console commands in separate steps of a batch job when the step runs, they all execute immediately. I'd like a very simple solution to this if anyone has one? Thanks, Kurt __ The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Problems that occur in production
J. Chiampi wrote: Hello, I'm looking for information about problems that could occur in production with Cobol programs and that could generate abend. I would like to find a description and how to prevent them before they occur. For instance, I think that it could be interesting to avoid moving alphanumeric variables into numeric variable without checking them by using a IF NUMERIC or moving data into another that is shorter or avoid closing file or never check array boundaries... Do you see other important cases related to performance or robustness? Thanks in advance. Regards You could use LE condition handling to trap errors and handle them in some installation-specified standard way. In our course "Enterprise COBOL Update I: Essentials" we have a lab that builds and uses a condition handler to intercept most errors; the classroom version just lets the program continue; in real life, of course, you would take more severe actions. But at least we demo how to intercept and analyze conditions that arise. Check out http://www.trainersfriend.com/COBOL_Courses/d704descr.htm Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques ==> Check out the Trainer's Friend Store to purchase z/OS <== ==> application developer toolkits. Sample code in four<== ==> programming languages, JCL to Assemble or compile, <== ==> bind and test. <== ==> http://www.trainersfriend.com/TTFStore/index.html<== -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Remote Tape Backup
Dean Montevago wrote: Hi, Senior management has this vision of moving our Data Center to a new location and having the tape processing in another. Don't ask me why or how come because I have no idea. Does anyone else do this ? What kind of technology would you need ? Dark fiber keeps coming up in conversation. Any info, white papers, opinions would be greatly appreciated. Yes, there people who do it (i.e. me). So, it is feasible. Technology, links, cost - all those depends on your needs. Simple scenario: IBM library (3494) connected using FICON links, moderate distance. You need dark fiber *or* free lamba's on your DWDM. It works like local library. For STK solution you will need TCP/IP connectivity as well (can be transmitted over the same fiber). If you can't afford dark fiber, you can consider some TCP/IP based solutions. HTH -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Invite to join nitwits ???
an old story one day all the mice get together and start to complain about the cat who is preying upon them. one of them finally comes up w/ an idea: "let's get a little bell and put it around his neck; that way, he won't be able to creep up on us any more without making any noise". Everyone thinks this is a great idea and there's a whole lot of hooping and hollering about it. except for old Grandpa mouse, who just sits there, apparently more asleep than awake . finally someone notices and asks Grandpa mouse, "what's the matter grandpa? don't you think that that's a great idea?" And old Grandpa just opens one eye and says, "And just which one of you young Turks is going to be the one to put that bell around the cat's neck?" hence the expression "to bell the cat" --- who is going to undertake the risky behaviour? /s/ tuco bonno Graduate, College of Conflict Management University of SouthEast Asia "I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! " -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Friday, 20 June, 2008 10:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Invite to join nitwits ??? In a message dated 6/20/2008 5:20:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for belling the cat? >> Report SPAM ought to suffice... **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Executing multiple console commands in different job steps
IEBEDIT followed by a "wait" program (just because the command has been submitted doesn't mean it will execute before you issue the next one). If you want a sample, let me know. I used this procedure to roll staging sysres volume to an alternate resvol. Dick HFHS Mainframe Administration >>> "Timmerman, Kurt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/20/2008 10:03:29 AM >>> Hello, I have the need to execute multiple console commands in a batch job. I have used the "// COMMAND 'command operand'" JCL statement as well as an IEFBR14 with the command in the IEFBR14 job but everything I have tried gets executed immediately. I have not been able to come up with a way to execute console commands in separate steps of a batch job when the step runs, they all execute immediately. I'd like a very simple solution to this if anyone has one? Thanks, Kurt __ The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email contains information from the sender that may be CONFIDENTIAL, LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, PROPRIETARY or otherwise protected from disclosure. This email is intended for use only by the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying, distribution, printing, or any action taken in reliance on the contents of this email, is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sending party by reply email, delete the email from your computer system and shred any paper copies. Note to Patients: There are a number of risks you should consider before using e-mail to communicate with us. See our Privacy Policy and Henry Ford My Health at www.henryford.com for more detailed information. If you do not believe that our policy gives you the privacy and security protection you need, do not send e-mail or Internet communications to us. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving from CA-MIM to GRS.
Main reason to have MII/MIA in the first place is so you don't have those restrictions (with due regard to PDSE's): Sysplex NE MIM-plex NE SMS-plex NE MIA-plex Kudos to those who can avoid that in a large, fast-growing shop. (There are other pluses as well.) Dick HFHS Mainframe Administration >>> "Brian Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/20/2008 11:29:10 AM >>> I've done a MIM to GRS Star conversion at two different shops, and I thought it was pretty easy. Its easy IF: SYS-plex = GRS-plex = SMS-plex = TAPE-DEVICE-SHARING-plex It is NOT easy if you HAVE to share dasd beyond the boundary of a sysplex. In my case, I fixed that first, and then once the Sysplex boundary was the same as the shared-dasd boundary, then the project was easy. My opinion. Brian On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:12:37 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote: >"Peter X. DeFabritus" wrote in message >> I found a Techdoc as a possibility: >> >> http://www- 03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD103317 >> >> -- > >Thanks, > >I will study it, it looks useful at first glance. > >Kees. > > >At a second glance, it is mostly a list of reasons why the conversion is >not easy to accomplish and why it is advisable to hire IBM to do it. > >Kees. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email contains information from the sender that may be CONFIDENTIAL, LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, PROPRIETARY or otherwise protected from disclosure. This email is intended for use only by the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying, distribution, printing, or any action taken in reliance on the contents of this email, is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sending party by reply email, delete the email from your computer system and shred any paper copies. Note to Patients: There are a number of risks you should consider before using e-mail to communicate with us. See our Privacy Policy and Henry Ford My Health at www.henryford.com for more detailed information. If you do not believe that our policy gives you the privacy and security protection you need, do not send e-mail or Internet communications to us. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Executing multiple console commands in different job steps
I just downloaded and installed W$$MGCR from the CBT Tape. Assemble and link, life is good. Steve Conway Lead Systems Programmer Information Systems & Services Division Computer & Network Operations Phone: (703) 450-3156 Fax:(703) 450-3197 "Timmerman, Kurt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 06/20/2008 10:03 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Executing multiple console commands in different job steps Hello, I have the need to execute multiple console commands in a batch job. I have used the "// COMMAND 'command operand'" JCL statement as well as an IEFBR14 with the command in the IEFBR14 job but everything I have tried gets executed immediately. I have not been able to come up with a way to execute console commands in separate steps of a batch job when the step runs, they all execute immediately. I'd like a very simple solution to this if anyone has one? Thanks, Kurt __ The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving from CA-MIM to GRS.
I absolutely agree with you regarding the advantages of the MII/MIA products in environments where "beyond the -plex boundary sharing" is required. Further, the MII/MIA products were always of very high quality, in my experience. Brian On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:07:08 -0400, Richard Bond wrote: >Main reason to have MII/MIA in the first place is so you don't have those restrictions (with due regard to PDSE's): > >Sysplex NE MIM-plex NE SMS-plex NE MIA-plex Kudos to those who can avoid that in a large, fast-growing shop. > >(There are other pluses as well.) > >Dick >HFHS >Mainframe Administration > "Brian Peterson" 6/20/2008 11:29:10 AM >>> > >I've done a MIM to GRS Star conversion at two different shops, and I thought >it was pretty easy. > >Its easy IF: > >SYS-plex = GRS-plex = SMS-plex = TAPE-DEVICE-SHARING-plex > >It is NOT easy if you HAVE to share dasd beyond the boundary of a sysplex. >In my case, I fixed that first, and then once the Sysplex boundary was the >same as the shared-dasd boundary, then the project was easy. > >My opinion. > >Brian > >On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:12:37 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote: > >>"Peter X. DeFabritus" wrote in message >>> I found a Techdoc as a possibility: >>> >>> http://www- >03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD103317 >>> >>> -- >> >>Thanks, >> >>I will study it, it looks useful at first glance. >> >>Kees. >> >> >>At a second glance, it is mostly a list of reasons why the conversion is >>not easy to accomplish and why it is advisable to hire IBM to do it. >> >>Kees. >> -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Invite to join nitwits ???
All right - I'll bite. What is the invite to join the nitwits about? I don't think I ever heard the expression "to bell the cat". Thats a good story, although like this posting, totally off topic. Ah, but its Friday. I almost forgot. Being unemployed does have some benefits! Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: "Bonno, Tuco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Invite to join nitwits ??? an old story one day all the mice get together and start to complain about the cat who is preying upon them. one of them finally comes up w/ an idea: "let's get a little bell and put it around his neck; that way, he won't be able to creep up on us any more without making any noise". Everyone thinks this is a great idea and there's a whole lot of hooping and hollering about it. except for old Grandpa mouse, who just sits there, apparently more asleep than awake . finally someone notices and asks Grandpa mouse, "what's the matter grandpa? don't you think that that's a great idea?" And old Grandpa just opens one eye and says, "And just which one of you young Turks is going to be the one to put that bell around the cat's neck?" hence the expression "to bell the cat" --- who is going to undertake the risky behaviour? /s/ tuco bonno Graduate, College of Conflict Management University of SouthEast Asia "I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! " -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Friday, 20 June, 2008 10:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Invite to join nitwits ??? In a message dated 6/20/2008 5:20:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for belling the cat? Report SPAM ought to suffice... **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release 6.1 of IBMLink - AST
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:34:23 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:57:33 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I will open a PMR. > >I just received an update from my feedback: > > >Mark, we are aware of this problem and it is being looked into by >development. At this time, I don't have any estimate as to when it will >get fixed. >ServiceLink Support > > Latest update from IBM: "this week a fix was scheduled for the July fixpack, to deploy on the evening of July 11." -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Stupid Question of the day.
I think the reason for the JCL error is that your exec or clist that allocates your ISPF profile dataset is probably allocating the same dataset name on both systems. If you have a sysplex, the enque is propagated to the other system, hence the JCL error. I know when I was working at Land's End, we had a sysplex. I wondered why my ISPF profile dataset was different, and the other sysprog there explained to me about the enque, which for the profile DS is DISP=OLD. You have to write the logon exec or clist to take into account the system it is on, and allocate a name that's different on each system. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: "Sabo, Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: Stupid Question of the day. I am going to do a migration from OS/390 2.10 to zOS 1.9. The mainframe was supposed to go away six years ago, however some of the applications have been migrated off, but other still remain. Change in management decision to keep the mainframe as a viable platform and upgrade it with new hardware and software. However that is not my question, we run a shared JES2 spool between multiple LPARS a programmer wants to logon to TSO several times using the same user id. Today we can not do it , you get a jcl error. Has this changed with the newer releases of the operating systems? I thought I would ask before I started digging into it. Thanks for any help. Frank W Sabo Jr. SR. Systems Administrator Giant Eagle Inc. Phone: 412 967-3764 Fax:412 967-6120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Invite to join nitwits ???
Eric, There was an invite to some "alleged" tech list. It (all 3 copies) was dumped in my spam folder automatically, so it may be in yours. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Invite to join nitwits ??? All right - I'll bite. What is the invite to join the nitwits about? I don't think I ever heard the expression "to bell the cat". Thats a good story, although like this posting, totally off topic. Ah, but its Friday. I almost forgot. Being unemployed does have some benefits! Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: "Bonno, Tuco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Invite to join nitwits ??? > an old story one day all the mice get together and start to complain > about the cat who is preying upon them. one of them finally comes up w/ > an idea: "let's get a little bell and put it around his neck; that way, > he won't be able to creep up on us any more without making any noise". > Everyone thinks this is a great idea and there's a whole lot of hooping > and hollering about it. except for old Grandpa mouse, who just sits > there, apparently more asleep than awake . finally someone notices and > asks Grandpa mouse, "what's the matter grandpa? don't you think that > that's a great idea?" And old Grandpa just opens one eye and says, "And > just which one of you young Turks is going to be the one to put that bell > around the cat's neck?" > hence the expression "to bell the cat" --- who is going to undertake the > risky behaviour? > > > /s/ tuco bonno > Graduate, College of Conflict Management > University of SouthEast Asia > "I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! " > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Ed Finnell > Sent: Friday, 20 June, 2008 10:29 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Invite to join nitwits ??? > > > In a message dated 6/20/2008 5:20:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > for belling the cat? > > >>> > Report SPAM ought to suffice... > > > > > > > > > **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Invite to join nitwits ???
On 20 Jun 2008 12:57:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Bielefeld) wrote: >All right - I'll bite. What is the invite to join the nitwits about? I didn't recognize this so I marked it as spam. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Stupid Question of the day.
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:20:09 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >we had a sysplex. I wondered why >my ISPF profile dataset was different, and the other sysprog there explained >to me about the enque, which for the profile DS is DISP=OLD. You have to >write the logon exec or clist to take into account the system it is on, and >allocate a name that's different on each system. One of the enhancements with z/OS 1.9 is " Users are able to share ISPF profiles across different systems in the same sysplex". Doug -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Invite to join nitwits ???
OK - Thanks. I logged on to my Roadrunner account through webmail, and there wasn't anything in my spam folder. I did have an email by Mr. Bond through IBM-Main. I don't quite understand why it put it there. My regular email account gets 20 to 30 emails in spam every day, but this account gets one or two a week. I noticed one thing bad about this list though. Since Darren took his exits, or whatever you call them on this platform out, people don't delete the last 3 lines. I think I deleted about 4 sets of them. I think before if there was already 1 or 2 of them there, it sent your post back until you deleted them. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: "Wayne Driscoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Invite to join nitwits ??? Eric, There was an invite to some "alleged" tech list. It (all 3 copies) was dumped in my spam folder automatically, so it may be in yours. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
UA Listserv outage on Monday 6-23-2008
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Re: Stupid Question of the day.
One impediment to multiple logon is the enqueue on QNAME(SYSIKJUA). You can enable multi-system logon by blocking propagation of that enqueue to other members of a sysplex. I don't see how you could block recognition of that enqueue on a single system. This enqueue represents the individual TSO user instance and has nothing to do with data set allocation. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED] K.COM> To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: Stupid Question of the day. 06/20/2008 01:53 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:20:09 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >we had a sysplex. I wondered why >my ISPF profile dataset was different, and the other sysprog there explained >to me about the enque, which for the profile DS is DISP=OLD. You have to >write the logon exec or clist to take into account the system it is on, and >allocate a name that's different on each system. One of the enhancements with z/OS 1.9 is " Users are able to share ISPF profiles across different systems in the same sysplex". Doug -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Stupid Question of the day.
>One impediment to multiple logon is the enqueue on QNAME(SYSIKJUA). You can >enable multi-system logon by blocking propagation of that enqueue to other members of a sysplex. It's a simple parm under JES2. You don't have to worry about ENQ's for the SYSIkJUA, rather just with the allocated DSNs. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Remote Tape Backup
Dean, You have a couple of options. Virtual-tape offerings are probably the best bet (no need for channel-extenders). Both the IBM offering and CA-Vtape allow you to use TCP/IP to connect. EMC has also has a Virtual-tape offering that I believe (not 100% sure) uses TCP/IP as well; the difference is the both IBM and CA's offering backup their virtual-tape cache to physical tape (on-site and/or off-site) while EMC is cache only. The STK/VSM option is also available, but is not yet TCP/IP available (it requires a channel-extender). Russell Witt CA -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dean Montevago Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Remote Tape Backup Hi, Senior management has this vision of moving our Data Center to a new location and having the tape processing in another. Don't ask me why or how come because I have no idea. Does anyone else do this ? What kind of technology would you need ? Dark fiber keeps coming up in conversation. Any info, white papers, opinions would be greatly appreciated. TIA Dean Dean Montevago Sr. Systems Specialist Visiting Nurse Service of New York (212) 609 - 9608 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Stupid Question of the day.
Well, it's Friday night and I'm trying to watch Burn Notice. On one member of my 1.9 sandbox sysplex, I see this: ISG343I 18.52.17 GRS STATUS FRAME LAST F E SYS=B0 S=SYSTEM SYSIKJUA ROBINSS SYSNAMEJOBNAME ASID TCBADDR EXC/SHRSTATUS B0 0090 00AFFB00 EXCLUSIVEOWN Because we exclude--or rather don't include--SYSIKJUA in the conversion to SYSTEMS scope, I can logon to other members of this sysplex with the same userid. We also tell JES2 to allow multiple TSO logon, but the whole solution requires both GRS and JES2 changes. Plus accommodations for conflicting data sets. If I'm wrong, I owe Ted a drink at SCIDS--from the CASH bar!!! Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED] CA>To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU> Re: Stupid Question of the day. 06/20/2008 04:52 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU> >One impediment to multiple logon is the enqueue on QNAME(SYSIKJUA). You can enable multi-system logon by blocking propagation of that enqueue to other members of a sysplex. It's a simple parm under JES2. You don't have to worry about ENQ's for the SYSIkJUA, rather just with the allocated DSNs. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Stupid Question of the day.
>Because we exclude--or rather don't include--SYSIKJUA in the conversion to >SYSTEMS scope, I can logon to other members of this sysplex with the same userid. We also tell JES2 to allow multiple TSO logon, but the whole solution requires both GRS and JES2 changes. Plus accommodations for conflicting data sets. We changed nothing when we upgraded from 2.10 to 1.4. It jest grew. I was the first to find it out, with an ISPPROF ENQ issue. >If I'm wrong, I owe Ted a drink at SCIDS--from the CASH bar!!! Find me a job, and I'll be happier. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Stupid Question of the day.
In Canada or the States? Tom Moulder Find me a job, and I'll be happier. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
