Re: How Many OMEGAMON ICATs Can Run At The Same Time?.

[Vernooij, CP - SPLXM]

Here, I (from the z/OS department) have the honour to do all installs.
It is quite technical, z/OS related and complicated, so having one
person get ICAT under control was decided enough effort and the various
product specialists provide the required information and assistance when
needed.

Kees.

"George Henke"  wrote in message
news:...
> So how do you allow DBAs and CICS SAs work on ICAT at the same time or
is
> this something they should not be doing anyway?  Something that should
be
> centrally managed?
> 
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Stephen Hall
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> > >Date:Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:59:39 +0100
> > >From:"Vernooij, CP - SPLXM" 
> > >Subject: Re: How Many OMEGAMON ICATs Can Run At The Same Time?.
> > >
> > >"George Henke"  wrote in message
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>news:...
> > >> Is anyone able to run more than one ICAT (formerly CICAT) at the
same
> > >>time,
> > >> eg ICAT for CICS, ICAT for DB2, etc.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > > George Henke
> > >
> > >You mean: several users configuring Omegamon components
simultaneously?
> > >I think they will collide regularly, because they are configuring
the same
> > RTE.
> > >The only way should be to separate them right from the beginning to
their
> > own RTEs and datasets.
> > >
> > >Kees.
> >
> > Yes, that would be the only way to do it, but not what I would
recommend,
> > as it would lead to a lot of duplication,
> > as well as increased overhead in applying maintenance etc.
> >
> > My suggestion would be to nominate an ICAT / Omegamon Installation
owner
> > who manages the installation and
> > configuration on behalf of all teams. Depending on the number of
LPARS /
> > RTES you have I would also recommend
> > looking at the batch ICAT Process, or even the new PARMLIB
installation
> > process. I have 9 LPARS configured
> > with most Omegamon components and use the batch process, I can
regenerate a
> > new RTE in about 30 minutes depending
> > on the number of DB2 and IMS regions in the RTE.
> >
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > -
> > Stephen Hall
> > Mainframe Platform Manager
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Re: How Many OMEGAMON ICATs Can Run At The Same Time?.

[Bruce Hewson]

Hi George,

Multiple RTE's with multiple products in a single ICAT would be normal.

Only one user may use ICAT at any time.

With the link up of TEMS across products, having separate ICATs per product 
may not work.

Centralised control!!!

Regards
Bruce Hewson

ps: 

I have separate ICATs per Sysres Set...part of of versioning technique.
and have to only run an ICAT on the matching Sysres!

9 Products
20 RTEs

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Re: ISPF 3.4: Migrate to Level 2?

[Bruce Hewson]

Larry,

you know the command string to enter in ISPF 3.4 dataset list to command 
migrate to ML2see previous posts..


but for that to work...the dataset must first be backed up

so quite often you need to do 2 commands...

HBACKDS 

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HMIG / ML2

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Re: Filename in lowercase

[Walter Marguccio]

I'm afraid so, too. The only alternatat
> I think you are out of luck.

I'm afraid so, too. The only alternatative I found is what Don suggested in his 
later post.
Instead of doing with Rexx, I simply passed the output of a LISTC to DFSORT, 
and let him generate a 'put a.b.c.fred' for every single dataset found under 
A.B.C.

Thanks for your and Don's answer.

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Relayng all WTORs to my cell phone via SMS

[McKown, John]

I know how to send an SMS cell phone message using an email to sms gateway. 
What I'm trying to figure out is a relatively simple and CPU efficient way to 
do it. We have CA-OPS/MVS 11.5 installed. I could use it, but since I don't 
know every possible WTOR message id which might occur, it appears that I need 
to trap every z/OS message and look at each one individually. Yuck! This is not 
CPU efficient. I could write an IEAVMXIT in assembler to trap all messages and 
process the WTORs. This is probably more CPU efficient, but not simple. 
Especially since I would likely need to queue the WTORs to another address 
space to actually process. I could write a program to set up an EMCS console. 
But this seems neither simple nor CPU efficient, although perhaps more so than 
CA-OPS.

What have I overlooked?

What do I want to accomplish? We run with no people other than "on call" people 
on the weekends and holidays. This means that a batch job or some other process 
could hang on a WTOR because we don't currently have a way to notify anybody 
that they need to take a look. The on-call person is basically forced to work 
overtime to periodically logon to the system and use TSO and use SDSF to check 
out the system, or use an SMCS VTAM console to look and issue commands. TSO and 
SDSF is usually easier. How does a total "lights out" operation do this?

John McKown
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IT

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Re: Relayng all WTORs to my cell phone via SMS

[Binyamin Dissen]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:09:07 -0600 "McKown, John"
 wrote:

:>I know how to send an SMS cell phone message using an email to sms gateway. 
What I'm trying to figure out is a relatively simple and CPU efficient way to 
do it. We have CA-OPS/MVS 11.5 installed. I could use it, but since I don't 
know every possible WTOR message id which might occur, it appears that I need 
to trap every z/OS message and look at each one individually. Yuck! This is not 
CPU efficient. I could write an IEAVMXIT in assembler to trap all messages and 
process the WTORs. This is probably more CPU efficient, but not simple. 
Especially since I would likely need to queue the WTORs to another address 
space to actually process. I could write a program to set up an EMCS console. 
But this seems neither simple nor CPU efficient, although perhaps more so than 
CA-OPS.

I would not think that it would cost that much to have OPS check every message
- it already traps them anyway.

Other options - OPSMVS )TOD rule to check for outstanding WTORs, screen
scraper on a PC console, .

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Re: Relayng all WTORs to my cell phone via SMS

[Miklos Szigetvari]

Hi

D R;R ?

On 11/24/2010 11:09 AM, McKown, John wrote:

I know how to send an SMS cell phone message using an email to sms gateway. 
What I'm trying to figure out is a relatively simple and CPU efficient way to 
do it. We have CA-OPS/MVS 11.5 installed. I could use it, but since I don't 
know every possible WTOR message id which might occur, it appears that I need 
to trap every z/OS message and look at each one individually. Yuck! This is not 
CPU efficient. I could write an IEAVMXIT in assembler to trap all messages and 
process the WTORs. This is probably more CPU efficient, but not simple. 
Especially since I would likely need to queue the WTORs to another address 
space to actually process. I could write a program to set up an EMCS console. 
But this seems neither simple nor CPU efficient, although perhaps more so than 
CA-OPS.

What have I overlooked?

What do I want to accomplish? We run with no people other than "on call" people on the 
weekends and holidays. This means that a batch job or some other process could hang on a WTOR 
because we don't currently have a way to notify anybody that they need to take a look. The on-call 
person is basically forced to work overtime to periodically logon to the system and use TSO and use 
SDSF to check out the system, or use an SMCS VTAM console to look and issue commands. TSO and SDSF 
is usually easier. How does a total "lights out" operation do this?

John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
IT

Administrative Services Group

HealthMarkets(r)

9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
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Re: How Many OMEGAMON ICATs Can Run At The Same Time?.

[Stephen Hall]

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>Date:Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:46:39 -0500
>From:George Henke 
>Subject: Re: How Many OMEGAMON ICATs Can Run At The Same Time?.
>
>So how do you allow DBAs and CICS SAs work on ICAT at the same time or is
>this something they should not be doing anyway?  Something that should be
>centrally managed?

Hi George,

That's my view, I don't let anybody else touch ICAT, it's mine to manage alone. 
If CICS or DBAs want something changed they come to me, that way I know it's 
done centrally, correctly and implemented across all LPARS as necessary.

I document my environment up to a point, so that someone can take over if 
necessary, but nobody wants it, so it's all down to me.


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Re: Relayng all WTORs to my cell phone via SMS

[Roberto Halais]

John:
Maybe you could have a Rexx that wakes up every x minutes and does a D R,R
to process outstanding messages. This script will then email/sms you the
WTOR.



On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:09 AM, McKown, John  wrote:

> I know how to send an SMS cell phone message using an email to sms gateway.
> What I'm trying to figure out is a relatively simple and CPU efficient way
> to do it. We have CA-OPS/MVS 11.5 installed. I could use it, but since I
> don't know every possible WTOR message id which might occur, it appears that
> I need to trap every z/OS message and look at each one individually. Yuck!
> This is not CPU efficient. I could write an IEAVMXIT in assembler to trap
> all messages and process the WTORs. This is probably more CPU efficient, but
> not simple. Especially since I would likely need to queue the WTORs to
> another address space to actually process. I could write a program to set up
> an EMCS console. But this seems neither simple nor CPU efficient, although
> perhaps more so than CA-OPS.
>
> What have I overlooked?
>
> What do I want to accomplish? We run with no people other than "on call"
> people on the weekends and holidays. This means that a batch job or some
> other process could hang on a WTOR because we don't currently have a way to
> notify anybody that they need to take a look. The on-call person is
> basically forced to work overtime to periodically logon to the system and
> use TSO and use SDSF to check out the system, or use an SMCS VTAM console to
> look and issue commands. TSO and SDSF is usually easier. How does a total
> "lights out" operation do this?
>
> John McKown
> Systems Engineer IV
> IT
>
> Administrative Services Group
>
> HealthMarkets(r)
>
> 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
> (817) 255-3225 phone *
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Re: Relayng all WTORs to my cell phone via SMS

[Roger Lowe]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:09:07 -0600, McKown, John
 wrote:

>I know how to send an SMS cell phone message using an email to sms gateway.
What I'm trying to figure out is a relatively simple and CPU efficient way
to do it. We have CA-OPS/MVS 11.5 installed. I could use it, but since I
don't know every possible WTOR message id which might occur, it appears that
I need to trap every z/OS message and look at each one individually. Yuck!
This is not CPU efficient. I could write an IEAVMXIT in assembler to trap
all messages and process the WTORs. This is probably more CPU efficient, but
not simple. Especially since I would likely need to queue the WTORs to
another address space to actually process. I could write a program to set up
an EMCS console. But this seems neither simple nor CPU efficient, although
perhaps more so than CA-OPS.
>
>What have I overlooked?
>
>What do I want to accomplish? We run with no people other than "on call"
people on the weekends and holidays. This means that a batch job or some
other process could hang on a WTOR because we don't currently have a way to
notify anybody that they need to take a look. The on-call person is
basically forced to work overtime to periodically logon to the system and
use TSO and use SDSF to check out the system, or use an SMCS VTAM console to
look and issue commands. TSO and SDSF is usually easier. How does a total
"lights out" operation do this?
>
John,
   have you looked at the AUTOR function that is available with z/OS 1.12?
.
This might go some way to achieving what you are after
.
Roger

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Re: Relayng all WTORs to my cell phone via SMS

[McKown, John]

We're stuck on z/OS 1.10 until 3Q2011 at the earliest. But I'll look at it to 
see how it compares to CA-OPS.

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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Lowe
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:25 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Relayng all WTORs to my cell phone via SMS
> 
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:09:07 -0600, McKown, John
>  wrote:
> 
> >I know how to send an SMS cell phone message using an email 
> to sms gateway.
> What I'm trying to figure out is a relatively simple and CPU 
> efficient way
> to do it. We have CA-OPS/MVS 11.5 installed. I could use it, 
> but since I
> don't know every possible WTOR message id which might occur, 
> it appears that
> I need to trap every z/OS message and look at each one 
> individually. Yuck!
> This is not CPU efficient. I could write an IEAVMXIT in 
> assembler to trap
> all messages and process the WTORs. This is probably more CPU 
> efficient, but
> not simple. Especially since I would likely need to queue the WTORs to
> another address space to actually process. I could write a 
> program to set up
> an EMCS console. But this seems neither simple nor CPU 
> efficient, although
> perhaps more so than CA-OPS.
> >
> >What have I overlooked?
> >
> >What do I want to accomplish? We run with no people other 
> than "on call"
> people on the weekends and holidays. This means that a batch 
> job or some
> other process could hang on a WTOR because we don't currently 
> have a way to
> notify anybody that they need to take a look. The on-call person is
> basically forced to work overtime to periodically logon to 
> the system and
> use TSO and use SDSF to check out the system, or use an SMCS 
> VTAM console to
> look and issue commands. TSO and SDSF is usually easier. How 
> does a total
> "lights out" operation do this?
> >
> John,
>have you looked at the AUTOR function that is 
> available with z/OS 1.12?
> .
> This might go some way to achieving what you are after
> .
> Roger
> 
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Re: Relayng all WTORs to my cell phone via SMS

[McKown, John]

Sounds doable. And I could just use a CA-OPS/MVS TOD rule to do it. Someone has 
pointed out that CA-OPS/MVS is already trapping all console messages and doing 
a match against the MSG rules, followed by a dispatch of any REXX MSG rule(s) 
which match the message id. So putting in a well coded REXX CA-OPS MSG rule may 
not add that much overhead. The plus of a MSG rule is that I don't need to keep 
track of whether I have already dispatched the WTOR out via an SMS message.

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> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:01 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Relayng all WTORs to my cell phone via SMS
> 
> John:
> Maybe you could have a Rexx that wakes up every x minutes and 
> does a D R,R
> to process outstanding messages. This script will then 
> email/sms you the
> WTOR.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:09 AM, McKown, John 
>  > wrote:
> 
> > I know how to send an SMS cell phone message using an email 
> to sms gateway.
> > What I'm trying to figure out is a relatively simple and 
> CPU efficient way
> > to do it. We have CA-OPS/MVS 11.5 installed. I could use 
> it, but since I
> > don't know every possible WTOR message id which might 
> occur, it appears that
> > I need to trap every z/OS message and look at each one 
> individually. Yuck!
> > This is not CPU efficient. I could write an IEAVMXIT in 
> assembler to trap
> > all messages and process the WTORs. This is probably more 
> CPU efficient, but
> > not simple. Especially since I would likely need to queue 
> the WTORs to
> > another address space to actually process. I could write a 
> program to set up
> > an EMCS console. But this seems neither simple nor CPU 
> efficient, although
> > perhaps more so than CA-OPS.
> >
> > What have I overlooked?
> >
> > What do I want to accomplish? We run with no people other 
> than "on call"
> > people on the weekends and holidays. This means that a 
> batch job or some
> > other process could hang on a WTOR because we don't 
> currently have a way to
> > notify anybody that they need to take a look. The on-call person is
> > basically forced to work overtime to periodically logon to 
> the system and
> > use TSO and use SDSF to check out the system, or use an 
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VLAN Tagging

[Roberto Halais]

Listers:

Can I have VLAN tagging with an OSA console device (OSAC)?

I have RTFM'ed but cannot find any reference to tagging OSAC.

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Re: ISPF 3.4: Migrate to Level 2?

[Joel C. Ewing]

Prior backup is only required for datasets with a management class 
enabled for auto-backup; otherwise, there is no check for a backup copy 
on migrate to ML2.  We find HSM auto-backup for many application-level 
datasets to be almost useless because they are unsynchronized with any 
known recovery point for the application, and thus we have few 
management classes that are set for auto-backup.

   JC Ewing

On 11/24/2010 03:32 AM, Bruce Hewson wrote:

Larry,

you know the command string to enter in ISPF 3.4 dataset list to command
migrate to ML2see previous posts..


but for that to work...the dataset must first be backed up

so quite often you need to do 2 commands...

HBACKDS

then wait till completed (allwo to be async process lets you go off and do
othewr work)

HMIG / ML2

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Re: Relayng all WTORs to my cell phone via SMS

[David Andrews]

On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 05:09 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
> it appears that I need to trap every z/OS message and look at each one
> individually. Yuck! This is not CPU efficient.

I have a console monitor written in REXX that runs 'round the clock, and
which has used 600 CPU seconds in the last 17 days (my last IPL).  I
know you're CPU-constrained, but five minutes of CPU spread over two
weeks doesn't break the bank here.

In REXX it's easy to screen all console traffic and watch for e.g.
messages with MDBGHOLD set - nondeletable messages.

GETMSG_RC = GETMSG('CONSMSG.'WAIT_TIME)
IF GETMSG_RC > 4 THEN DO /* GETMSG ERROR, SNO */
  SAY 'GETMSG return code =' GETMSG_RC
  EXIT GETMSG_RC 
END
IF GETMSG_RC = 4 THEN DO /* PROBABLE TIMEOUT */
  ITERATE
END
IF CONSMSG.0 > 0 THEN DO
  ... parse CONSMSG.nn for message content, or
  IF (CONSMSG.MDBGHOLD = 'YES') THEN DO
  ...
  END
END
ELSE DO
  ... no message text means this might be a DOM
  IF CONSMSG.MDBGDOM = "YES" THEN DO
... handle deleted messages

> What do I want to accomplish? We run with no people other than "on
> call" people on the weekends and holidays.

We too.  I watch mostly for nondeletable console messages and parse
message lines for exceptions (IDMS has an open WTOR all day long for
example) so we don't get bugged about routine stuff.  I got fancy and
implemented an escalation schedule - a list of people are paged one at a
time, at intervals - until the trigger message is DOM-ed or one of the
paged individuals hit 'reply' on their blackberries.

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Re: Extended addressability for zFS ROOT

[Arthur Gutowski]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:16:04, Guy Gardoit  wrote:

>No, the rename is done after the copy.
>
>We never IPL the staging volumes either and the clone process are
>full-volumes dumps, using FDR of course, from the staging to the alternate
>resvols.   Hence, I need to rename any zFS files that are copied by
>replacing the "STAGING" qualifier to a alternate resvol name.   [...]

OK, I misread or missed something your earlier post.  Same approach here, 
though I won't say we "never" IPL the staging volumes (first IPL of a new 
z/OS release in our sandbox).

>I just like to leave any "system" related zFS on one of our non-SMS staging
>volumes, and ultimately, on a second resvol, so the Storage Group doesn't
>have to get involved.  [...]  I don't see any reason for treating data sets 
>related to OMVS any differently from the rest of the z/OS libraries.

FWIW, agreed, wholeheartedly.

Sorry to have hijacked the thread into a cloning discussion.

Regards,
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Ford Motor Company

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Re: Indirect Catalogging OS zFS Files (was Re: Extended addressability for zFS ROOT)

[Arthur Gutowski]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:48:09, Mark Zelden  wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:01:58, Arthur Gutowski  
wrote:
>> Guess I'm "old school", and I just don't see the need for these R/O FS.
>
>Times change...   adapt or become extinct.  :-)

I get that.  We (Ford) almost did go the way of the dodo.  That's still fresh.

We just had a discussion over the zFS default for ServerPac (we're installing 
1.12), and the real reason came out.  This introduces a big change to our 
cloning process, and we're not confident we can absorb it during the upgrade.

>Is anyone using the new support in z/OS 1.12 for VSAM indirect cataloging
>yet for cloning?
>
>I haven't ordered 1.12 yet, missed SHARE, and haven't looked at the
>implementation details yet.

It looks like a non-starter.  I don't see any support for VOLUME specification 
in 
the BPXPRMxx MOUNT statement, the TSO/E nor Unix command, nor in 
automount.  Without that, I can't see how it makes my cloning process any 
easier.  I still have to maintain unique DSNames for my maintenance FS'.  
Hence, a rename is still required during a clone, even if all our systems take 
advantage of it for IPL volumes.  All it seems to buy me is I can take 
&SYSR1. 
out of the FILESYSTEM parm of the MOUNT statements.  BFD.

If I missed something, I'll be receptive to some illumination.

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company

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IBM Link has been corrected for COMMENT INVALID issue

[Lizette Koehler]

Cross Posted to IBMMAIN, IMS, CICS

Here is the answer from IBM

A fix for the problem has now been deployed to the production servers.  
During this past weekend's fix pack deployment, enhanced security   
requirements were put in place across all of our applications (including
ETR) which caused the problems you had reported.
After receiving user feedback on this issue, our application owners 
agreed to revise the security requirements to restore satisfactory  
service to our customers and so a fix was deployed. Again, we deeply
apologize for the inconvenience caused by this issue. Please let me know
if you have any further questions or concerns. Thanks!  

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Re: IBM Link has been corrected for COMMENT INVALID issue

[Scott Rowe]

Security?  I didn't know special characters were inherently insecure. ;-)

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Lizette Koehler
wrote:

> Cross Posted to IBMMAIN, IMS, CICS
>
> Here is the answer from IBM
>
> A fix for the problem has now been deployed to the production servers.
> During this past weekend's fix pack deployment, enhanced security
> requirements were put in place across all of our applications (including
> ETR) which caused the problems you had reported.
> After receiving user feedback on this issue, our application owners
> agreed to revise the security requirements to restore satisfactory
> service to our customers and so a fix was deployed. Again, we deeply
> apologize for the inconvenience caused by this issue. Please let me know
> if you have any further questions or concerns. Thanks!
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Re: Indirect Catalogging OS zFS Files (was Re: Extended addressability for zFS ROOT)

[Mark Zelden]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:27:55 -0600, Arthur Gutowski  wrote:

>It looks like a non-starter.  I don't see any support for VOLUME
specification in
>the BPXPRMxx MOUNT statement, the TSO/E nor Unix command, nor in
>automount.  Without that, I can't see how it makes my cloning process any
>easier.  I still have to maintain unique DSNames for my maintenance FS'.
>Hence, a rename is still required during a clone, even if all our systems take
>advantage of it for IPL volumes.  All it seems to buy me is I can take
&SYSR1.
>out of the FILESYSTEM parm of the MOUNT statements.  BFD.
>
>If I missed something, I'll be receptive to some illumination.
>

Right.  Even when I was using HFS and had the root on my 1 & only IPL volume,
the maintenance version didn't live on the maintenance sysres because it
had to have a different name to mount it at the service mount point in
order to apply maintenance.  It then was logically copied to the IPL volume
in the cloning process after the full volume copy.   Going way back to 
pre OS/390 2.6 support for non-SMS HFS, being on a separate volume
and cataloged was an HFS requirement anyway.

So until you can mount an uncataloged HFS or zFS, the maintenance version
will always need to have a different name, regardless of indirect 
cataloging of the run-time version.

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smf reporting

[Tim Brown]

What are all the options these days for reporting via smf records.
Isnt there an RMF pc base reporting tool ?


Thanks

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Re: smf reporting

[Williamson, James R]

The RMF Spreadsheet Reporter from IBM. 
 
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/rmf/tools/ 
  

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What are all the options these days for reporting via smf records.
Isnt there an RMF pc base reporting tool ?
 

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Re: IBM Link has been corrected for COMMENT INVALID issue

[Chase, John]

Lessons from TSA?

-jc-

> -Original Message-
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> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: IBM Link has been corrected for COMMENT INVALID issue
> 
> Security?  I didn't know special characters were inherently insecure.
;-)
> 
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Lizette Koehler
> wrote:
> 
> > Cross Posted to IBMMAIN, IMS, CICS
> >
> > Here is the answer from IBM
> >
> > A fix for the problem has now been deployed to the production
servers.
> > During this past weekend's fix pack deployment, enhanced security
> > requirements were put in place across all of our applications
(including
> > ETR) which caused the problems you had reported.
> > After receiving user feedback on this issue, our application owners
> > agreed to revise the security requirements to restore satisfactory
> > service to our customers and so a fix was deployed. Again, we deeply
> > apologize for the inconvenience caused by this issue. Please let me
know
> > if you have any further questions or concerns. Thanks!
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Re: DFHSM MIGRATE MYSTERY

[willie bunter]

Joel,
 
I did a manual BACKDS command of the dsn.  Next I did a LISTCAT of the dsn and 
it shows LBACKUP ---2010.328.0643.  I did a HMIG dsn ML2 . I did a LISTCAT 
again and it shows LBACKUP ---.XXX.
However when I do HLIST of the dsn it shows the backup 10/11/24 06:43:55
I am not sure why this is happening.  I also noted that if I issue the HMIG dsn 
ML2 the MANAGEMENT CLASS Migration Attributes is being ignored even though I 
have specified
the following:
Primary Days Non-usage  . : 3 
Level 1 Days Date/Days  . : 2 
Command or Auto Migrate . : BOTH 

As an earlier poster had mentioned that if a manual Migrate ML2 command 
is issued to migrate the dsn, it overrides the Migration attributes.  This 
storage group is exempt from Auto Migrate but it does have Auto Backup turned 
on.  I noticed that the Auto Backup is working.  The dataset in question was 
not backed up because it was created after the Auto Backup had run.


--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Joel C. Ewing  wrote:


From: Joel C. Ewing 
Subject: Re: DFHSM MIGRATE MYSTERY
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 4:04 PM


Did you display the LBACKUP date while the file was migrated?  On z/OS 
1.10 I only see the actual last Backup date displayed if the dataset is 
on a primary volume.  If on ML1 or ML2 neither ISMF no LISTC will 
display the backup date.

Did you do a
"HMIG  dsnamefilter"
(which is a request to migrate to ML1) or
"HMIG dsnamefilter ML2"?

If I try to migrate a dsn with an autobackup management class to ML2 and 
there is no backup yet, it fails with "ARC1280I MIGRATION FAILED - DATA 
SET IS IN NEED OF BACKUP".  If I try to migrate the same dataset to ML1 
("ML2" parm omitted), migration succeeds.  I think this is because DFHSM 
can still do an autobackup from ML1.  Or If I then attempt to force a 
migrate from ML1 to ML2 with "HMIG dsname ML2" before there is a backup, 
I also get the ARC1280I failure.


On 11/22/2010 07:51 AM, willie bunter wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I took your advice and set the MANAGEMENT CLASS AUTO BACKUP=Y.
>
> As a test I created a new dsn using the same HLQ's and Management Class. I 
> tried the MIGRATE command via batch (using wild cards)   it went to ML1 
> instead of ML2 which was NOT happening before I changed the AUTO BACKUP from 
> N to Y.   I did a LISTCAT of the dsn but it  shows that no backup was done. 
> Inspite of this the dsn was sent to ML1.  Not sure why
> LBACKUP ---.000.
>
> If I understand Joel's post correctly in which he says that "Migration 
> Attributes for primary and level 1 only apply to auto migration" then the dsn 
> should not have been sent to ML1 but directly to ML2.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Mike Schwab  wrote:
>
>
> From: Mike Schwab
> Subject: Re: DFHSM MIGRATE MYSTERY
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Received: Friday, November 19, 2010, 10:39 AM
>
>
> You can requre that a successful SMS backup before it allows the
> dataset to be migrated.
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:00 AM, willie bunter  wrote:
> 
>> When the batch job is executed all the dsns (these are all VSAM dsns) are 
>> migrated ML2 - including those that were created this morning before the 
>> migrate was done.  According to the Migration Attributes shouldn't those 
>> dsns which were created today&  yesterday not be migrated?
>> Could someone help me understand where else I should look.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>


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Re: smf reporting

[Scott Barry]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:25:12 -0500, Tim Brown  wrote:

>What are all the options these days for reporting via smf records.
>Isnt there an RMF pc base reporting tool ?
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Tim Brown
>Systems Specialist - Project Leader
>Central Hudson Gas & Electric
>284 South Ave
>Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
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>Phone: 845-486-5643
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>
>
>

Also, you may get some benefit with using DFSORT to do some SMF audit
reporting, as well.  

There are some SMF reporting utilities available on the CBT Tape at
http://cbttape.org.  

If your site has either SAS or WPS (SAS competitor at
http://www.teamwpc.co.uk/products/wps  also runs on zLinux, which SAS does
not support), you likely also have a companion software product MXG
available which has some distributed reporting opportunities as well as
adhoc user-written SAS programming capabilities.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.
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Re: REXX "address" environments

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on
11/19/2010
   at 03:39 PM, Tony Harminc  said:

>An HCE such as the proposed FTP one might well want to add its own
>routines to handle I/O or message processing, but those services are
>unavailable if the REXX environment is integrated into TSO/E. There
>is always the choice of initializing an environment that is not
>integrated (even when running unser TSO/E), but then the TSO/E
>services are not available.

What gives you that idea? It is normal to invoke a REXX script with
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Re: REXX "address" environments

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on 11/19/2010
   at 03:53 PM, Paul Gilmartin  said:

>Is that much different from "address ISREDIT END" or "address ISREDIT
>CANCEL", which I've seen (mis-)used in edit macros.

Those only make sense if you don't try to use any other EDIT
facilities in the macro. Since the normal reason for writing an EDIT
macro is to manipulate the EDIT session, ...

>Or "address TSO LOGOFF" in an EXEC started under a Unix shell.

It's not immediate regardless of who called the REXX code; it takes
effect the next time the TMP is looking for a command to run, which
might be hours.

>Yes.  The CMS version implements the stream I/O instructions. (I
>know those are MFC; are they actually ANSI?)

Yes, STREAM is ANSI, as are the extensions to address.
 
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Re: IEFBR14

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In
,
on 11/19/2010
   at 10:25 PM, "Schumacher, Otto"  said:

>I was not saying that IEFBR14 changed but that when run file
>allocation would do an HDELETE.

That may be what you meant to write, but what you actually wrote was
"the IEFBR14 program using allocation actually does an hdelete".
 
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Re: REXX "address" environments

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <1290208612.27170.70.ca...@mckown5.johnmckown.net>, on 11/19/2010
   at 05:16 PM, John McKown  said:

>Don't I need XEDIT first?

Il va sans dire; that was my way of saying that I want XEDIT under
TSO, preferably under ISPF. 

>XEDIT beats the stuffing out of PDF edit as far as I'm concerned. 

XEDIT only has one kind of shift.

>Although I would be mollified if PDF edit would enhance the FIND, 
>RFIND, CHANGE, and RCHANGE to include POSIX regular expressions.

I want prefix macros, including all of the machinery for SET PENDING.
Why POSIX? I want full Perl regexen.

 
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Re: REXX "address" environments

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <23326c108987498c818a941ac4a05...@ericnbpc>, on 11/19/2010
   at 09:00 PM, Eric Bielefeld  said:

>I've always liked ISPF edit much more than XEDIT.  You said PDF edit
>- I'm  not sure if you mean something different than ISPF edit.

There was a time when IBM split SPF into two products; ISPF and
ISPF/PDF. This was when they renamed it from Interactive Structured
Programing Facility to Interactive System Productivity Facility. EDIT
was in the PDF component of Interactive Structured Programing Facility
but it was all one product.

>My theory is that what you learn to use first is usually what you
>like best. 

026? You can have it. ATS? Ditto.

>I first learned SPF edit back around 1979.  I was the VM systems
>programmer  for 5 or 6 years, but I never liked XEDIT as well. 

I generally preferred XEDIT but I missed having two kinds of shift.
But I'm a tool-building guy and XEDIT had better facilities for
building edit macros than ISPF/PDF EDIT has.
 
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Re: Indirect Catalogging OS zFS Files (was Re: Extended addressability for zFS ROOT)

[Arthur Gutowski]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:09:19 -0600, Mark Zelden  
wrote:

>So until you can mount an uncataloged HFS or zFS, the maintenance version
>will always need to have a different name, regardless of indirect
>cataloging of the run-time version.

And we still have occasion to mount the alternate volume's FS' for 
maintenance, too ("clone and apply" rather than an orderly "migration"), so we 
really can't use zFS indirect cataloging at all without VOLSER support.

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company

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Re: REXX "address" environments

[Tony Harminc]

On 23 November 2010 15:48, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
 wrote:
> In , on
> 11/19/2010 at 03:39 PM, Tony Harminc  said:
>
>>An HCE such as the proposed FTP one might well want to add its own
>>routines to handle I/O or message processing, but those services are
>>unavailable if the REXX environment is integrated into TSO/E. There
>>is always the choice of initializing an environment that is not
>>integrated (even when running unser TSO/E), but then the TSO/E
>>services are not available.
>
> What gives you that idea? It is normal to invoke a REXX script with
> multiple environments available, e.g., for ISPF/PDF EDIT macros.

I think you are confusing REXX environments with REXX Host Command Environments.

Tony H.

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Re: does an UCB include any info on how many systems the given device is online?

[Bill Fairchild]

I study all the fields in the distributed UCB DSECT(s) fairly often, and have 
not seen such an element.  What would be much more useful, IMHO, is a callable 
system service that would return useful information, such as system IDs and 
device numbers on each system, about all the systems on which a given device is 
currently online.  But that's not very likely to be generally available from 
IBM any time soon.  And such information would always be suspect due to its 
possibly having changed on another system before the query ends.  And at what 
overhead cost with all the required inter-system communication?

Bill Fairchild
Rocket Software

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Subject: Re: does an UCB include any info on how many systems the given device 
is online?

I don't think so.  I run a DCOLLECT on all my systems then assign a
column / value from the system id and print out various stats about
the volume.  It does assume the same UCB on all systems.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Dr. Stephen Fedtke
 wrote:
> hi all,
>
> if a particular DASD device is online on several LPARs of a sysplex. does
> the UCB or any other control block include a counter on the number of LPARs
> the particular is currently online?
>
> many thanks for any tipp!
>
> best
> stephen
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can particular PR/SM controls be determined by corresponding status bits of in-memory control blocks?

[Dr. Stephen Fedtke]

hi all,

pr/sm includes the following controls:

* Global performance data control authority
* I/O configuration control authority
* Logical partition isolation

does anybody know whether there are bits in memory to detect the status of
these controls?

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further question: do I understand the following correctly that there is a
maschine instruction to perform these kinds of resets on another lpar?

"Cross-partition authority: This control can limit the capability of the LP
to issue certain control program instructions that affect other LPs. LPs
with cross-partition authority can issue instructions to perform a system
reset of another LP, deactivate any other LP, and provide support for the
automatic reconfiguration facility."



thanks for any info.

best
stephen


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Re: REXX "address" environments

[Eric Bielefeld]

And before the first ISPF, there was SPF - I think it stood for Structured 
Programming Facility.

026?  I remember an 029 and an 024(I think).  But we were talking about editors 
when I made the comment about you like what you first learned.  Of course that 
would depend on the editor.  Some people even call VI an editor!

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 "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"  wrote: 
>> There was a time when IBM split SPF into two products; ISPF and
> ISPF/PDF. This was when they renamed it from Interactive Structured
> Programing Facility to Interactive System Productivity Facility. EDIT
> was in the PDF component of Interactive Structured Programing Facility
> but it was all one product.
> 
> >My theory is that what you learn to use first is usually what you
> >like best. 
> 
> 026? You can have it. ATS? Ditto.

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Re: DFHSM MIGRATE MYSTERY

[Gibney, Dave]

A few things. Last I knew, HMIGRATE didn't have access to ML2, only MIGRATE. 
When the dataset is on primary DASD, the back=up date is kept in the "catalog" 
data (probably the VVDS) and therefore reportable by "catalog" functions 
(IDCAMS LISTCAT). Once migrated, the backup date reported by HLIST is from the 
DFHSM BCDS record.

And I think you are correct, a DS on ML1 can still be backed up, so manual 
migration to ML1 is ok.

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> Subject: Re: DFHSM MIGRATE MYSTERY
> 
> Joel,
> 
> I did a manual BACKDS command of the dsn.  Next I did a LISTCAT of the
> dsn and it shows LBACKUP ---2010.328.0643.  I did a HMIG dsn ML2 . I
> did a LISTCAT again and it shows LBACKUP ---.XXX.
> However when I do HLIST of the dsn it shows the backup 10/11/24
> 06:43:55
> I am not sure why this is happening.  I also noted that if I issue the
> HMIG dsn ML2 the MANAGEMENT CLASS Migration Attributes is being ignored
> even though I have specified
> the following:
> Primary Days Non-usage  . : 3
> Level 1 Days Date/Days  . : 2
> Command or Auto Migrate . : BOTH
> 
> As an earlier poster had mentioned that if a manual Migrate ML2 command
> is issued to migrate the dsn, it overrides the Migration attributes.
> This storage group is exempt from Auto Migrate but it does have Auto
> Backup turned on.  I noticed that the Auto Backup is working.  The
> dataset in question was not backed up because it was created after the
> Auto Backup had run.
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 11/23/10, Joel C. Ewing  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Joel C. Ewing 
> Subject: Re: DFHSM MIGRATE MYSTERY
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Received: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 4:04 PM
> 
> 
> Did you display the LBACKUP date while the file was migrated?  On z/OS
> 1.10 I only see the actual last Backup date displayed if the dataset is
> on a primary volume.  If on ML1 or ML2 neither ISMF no LISTC will
> display the backup date.
> 
> Did you do a
> "HMIG  dsnamefilter"
> (which is a request to migrate to ML1) or
> "HMIG dsnamefilter ML2"?
> 
> If I try to migrate a dsn with an autobackup management class to ML2
> and
> there is no backup yet, it fails with "ARC1280I MIGRATION FAILED - DATA
> SET IS IN NEED OF BACKUP".  If I try to migrate the same dataset to ML1
> ("ML2" parm omitted), migration succeeds.  I think this is because
> DFHSM
> can still do an autobackup from ML1.  Or If I then attempt to force a
> migrate from ML1 to ML2 with "HMIG dsname ML2" before there is a
> backup,
> I also get the ARC1280I failure.
> 
> 
> On 11/22/2010 07:51 AM, willie bunter wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > I took your advice and set the MANAGEMENT CLASS AUTO BACKUP=Y.
> >
> > As a test I created a new dsn using the same HLQ's and Management
> Class. I tried the MIGRATE command via batch (using wild cards)   it
> went to ML1 instead of ML2 which was NOT happening before I changed the
> AUTO BACKUP from N to Y.   I did a LISTCAT of the dsn but it  shows
> that no backup was done. Inspite of this the dsn was sent to ML1.  Not
> sure why
> > LBACKUP ---.000.
> >
> > If I understand Joel's post correctly in which he says that
> "Migration Attributes for primary and level 1 only apply to auto
> migration" then the dsn should not have been sent to ML1 but directly
> to ML2.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Mike Schwab  wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Mike Schwab
> > Subject: Re: DFHSM MIGRATE MYSTERY
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Received: Friday, November 19, 2010, 10:39 AM
> >
> >
> > You can requre that a successful SMS backup before it allows the
> > dataset to be migrated.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:00 AM, willie
> bunter  wrote:
> > 
> >> When the batch job is executed all the dsns (these are all VSAM
> dsns) are migrated ML2 - including those that were created this morning
> before the migrate was done.  According to the Migration Attributes
> shouldn't those dsns which were created today&  yesterday not be
> migrated?
> >> Could someone help me understand where else I should look.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> 
> 
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Re: loop detection by program

[Bill Fairchild]

And be careful to prevent the loop detector from detecting itself (assuming you 
have debugged it perfectly), as it may have to run a long time in trying to 
detect a loop in 1000 other address spaces with 1 tasks each without doing 
any I/O operations until the very end, when it reports that no loops were 
detected.

Bill Fairchild
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In
<124554529.1289564475547.javamail.ngm...@webmail16.arcor-online.net>,
on 11/12/2010
   at 01:21 PM, Monika Amiss  said:

> I want to examine all Asids every 3 minutes and  
> - if one Address Space appears to be looping - I  
> want to issued a Message to the operator.

Be careful what you ask for - you might get it. Expect operators to
cancel long running jobs "because they were looping." It's easy to
detect that a job is looping, but it's impossible to automatically
distinguish an erroneous loop from a valid loop, and every job more
complicated than IEFBR14 does loop.
 
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Re: Assembler comments

[Bill Fairchild]

And the year (plus some change) after that there will be a 12-12-12 12:12:12.  
And then about 8 days after that there will be no more Mayan calendar.  So all 
mainframes operating with an epoch set to moment 0 of the Mayan calendar will 
have to have their time changed by any operators who survive the universe-wide 
catastrophe.

Bill Fairchild
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No, but next year there will be an 11-11-11 11:11:11  ;-)  

 
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:32:24 -0700
> From: st...@trainersfriend.com
> Subject: Re: Assembler comments
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> 
> On 11/12/2010 9:24 AM, Peter Sylvester wrote:
> > On 11/12/2010 05:14 PM, McKown, John wrote:
> >  snippage
> > Yes, It's friday, and yesterday it was 11/11/11:11:11 :-)
> 
> Arent' you a year ahead of yourself there? 
> 
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Re: REXX "address" environments

[zMan]

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
 wrote:
> XEDIT only has one kind of shift.

Just curious -- what does that mean? I don't know ISPF/PDF well enough
to understand.
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Re: REXX "address" environments

[Steve Comstock]

On 11/24/2010 1:57 PM, zMan wrote:

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
  wrote:

XEDIT only has one kind of shift.


Just curious -- what does that mean? I don't know ISPF/PDF well enough
to understand.


ISPF Edit has data shift and column shift.

Data shift will not let you shift non-blank data
off the line; it also has a little awareness of
language specific comments etc.

Column shift does what you ask, allowing non-blank
data to be lost.


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Re: DITTO Alternative

[Bill Fairchild]

AMASPZAP will show exactly what is on a track, within certain limitations.  
E.g., any block with a data length greater than 32760 will only have the first 
32760 bytes displayed; if there is more than one EOF record in a row, only the 
first EOF record will be displayed; the full 28-byte Home Address will not be 
displayed; only tracks in allocated data sets and/or the VTOC can be displayed; 
and all other limitations which I have forgotten.

Bill Fairchild
Rocket Software

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How about amaspzap? That is free**Ed
** free as in alrerady installed on base Z/os

--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Ken Porowski  wrote:

From: Ken Porowski 
Subject: DITTO Alternative
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 4:12 PM

Anyone know of a free DITTO alternative.

I'm primarily interested in the DB (Disk Browse) function that will show
me exactly what is on a track.

Tape utilities would be nice but I rarely have need for them.

Thanks all.

Ken Porowski
VP Mainframe Administration
CIT Group
 


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Re: REXX "address" environments

[zMan]

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Steve Comstock
 wrote:
> ISPF Edit has data shift and column shift.
>
> Data shift will not let you shift non-blank data
> off the line; it also has a little awareness of
> language specific comments etc.
>
> Column shift does what you ask, allowing non-blank
> data to be lost.

Ah, thanks. Easy enough to implement in XEDIT, of course...
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Regular Expressions (was: REXX "address" environments)

[Dave Salt]

>Although I would be mollified if PDF edit would enhance the FIND, 
>RFIND, CHANGE, and RCHANGE to include POSIX regular expressions.It's not 
>exactly what you want but SimpList has a command called FEX (Find EXpression) 
>that's totally free for anyone to use. It enhances ISPF picture strings by 
>using some of the constructs of regular expressions. For example:

FEX move*var1  Finds (for example) 'MOVE TOTAL TO VAR1-INDEX'
FEX quick*fox*cat  Finds (for example) 'A quick brown fox jumped over a lazy 
cat' 
FEX gr[ae]yFinds 'gray' or 'grey'
FEX [a-h]  Finds any lowercase character between 'a' and 'h'
 
FEX [P-V]  Finds any uppercase character between 'P' and 'V'
 
FEX [j-nJ-N]   Finds any lowercase or uppercase character between 'j' and 
'N'
FEX [a-Z]  Finds any lowercase or uppercase alphabetic character
 
FEX [0-47-9]   Same as FEX [01234789] i.e. finds any number except 5 and 6
FEX <<

Re: IBM Link has been corrected for COMMENT INVALID issue

[John McKown]

In a UNIX based system, a badly coded system could be subject to an
injection attack if a $ is not properly escaped. You could possibly
reference an environment variable.

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On Nov 24, 2010 10:44 AM, "Chase, John"  wrote:

Lessons from TSA?

   -jc-


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Re: free press; was Open Position in Austria

[Bill Fairchild]

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>... New York Times...  editorial justifying why rockets won't work in space 
>"nothing to push against") or an earlier one why bumblebees can't fly.

And the news media in general published reports discrediting the Wright 
Brothers' successful heavier-than-air flight for over two years after the fact: 
 http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm

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Re: Who at IBM thought HATS was at all worthwhile?

[Arthur Gutowski]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:49:47, Timothy Sipples 
 wrote:

>[much of Timothy's Book of Mainframes, Chapter 4 deleted]
>It's *not* IBM's or HOD's fault if your administrator(s) choose to disable
>functions you need!

Apparently, I touched a nerve.  Point well taken.  You are right, this is out 
of 
the vendor's hands as well as it is out of ours (though we're stuck with it).

For their part, our Admins think they are trying to provide what we ask (as 
you suggest we do).  However, I'm not sure they can/will.  Keep in mind, 
many of these folks don't know what a mainframe is or why anyone would 
want to communicate with one.

>[more of Timothy's Book of Mainframes, Chapter 4, Verses 10-12, removed]
>In that case, my best advice is to go get Personal Communications or Host
>On-Demand, install it locally (or on your own private Web server,
>preferably and hopefully also z/OS-based), and allow yourself and your
>similarly situated colleagues to do anything in terms of setting
>preferences.

Oh that we could.  We tried - hard.  I apologize that part of my rant was 
misdirected at the product instead of the admins, as from my perspective, I 
can't readily distinguish product inadeqacy from internal knee-breaking.

>That said, if you think most users (internal and external) are like you,
>well, look around. :-) The Web is not exactly new. If *your* mainframe is
>not Web-savvy, that's a problem. (*The* mainframe has been Web-savvy 
>longer than anything else in Silicon Valley. Check the Web's history on that.) 
>HOD and HATS are extremely well suited to not only keeping pace with the
>exceptional "power users" but also quickly and easily making your mainframe
>Web-savvy. (There are many other ways also.) That's why they exist, that's
>why they've been so successful, and that's why HOD (for example) is now on
>its 11th major version -- just like IMS! :-) Although maybe IMS isn't quite
>ready for prime time yet :-) :-)

Tim, I worked for your fine employer for 5+ years, too.  I know.  I advocate 
new uses for z/OS.  I've tried to get more web serving on the mainframe, but 
the Standards League in the infinite wisdom even forced our internal 
(departmental) site onto a SharePoint server.  "Extermely" is a bit overstated, 
at least in my experience.  Perhaps more successful than Domino/390...   
(I worked on a few ESPs.)  I saw HoD in its realtive infancy, too.  F'ugly.  It 
has improved, perhaps, but IMHO, PComm still beats it hands-down.  And I'm 
told, there are even better emulators out there :-)

>This whole thread reminds me of the debate 25+ years ago when certain
>people complained that the newfangled PCs didn't make great 3270 terminals.
>Actually they did (if you wanted/bothered, such as ordering the right
>keyboard with the real PF keys), but I think that debate has been well
>settled by now. :-)

Yeah, well I'm not 100% convinced of that, either!  Actually, I'm reasonably 
content with PComm 5.9 and my ability to customize it how I see fit.  It's our 
OSA/ICC consoles that are giving me fits at the moment.  "But, that's another 
story."  FWIW, I was one of those guys that refused to let go of his coax-
attached 3270 "dumb" terminal because Windows kept crashing prompting me 
to call down to the command center to have my ID canceled so I could logon 
again once my PC rebooted!  (LOGON RECONNECT didn't always work, 
depending on how the connection terminated.)

Oh, and I did I miss a retort for my assertion that Java is a pig?  Though I 
understand, that too, is out of HoD's control (except that it's written in 
Java).
I can't wait for my 8GB laptop so I can run all the sessions I need to 
concurrently (with Outlook and IE no less).  Ah, great... knocked over my Kool-
Aid... 

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company

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Re: IBM Link has been corrected for COMMENT INVALID issue

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:50:26 -0500, John McKown wrote:

>In a UNIX based system, a badly coded system could be subject to an
>injection attack if a $ is not properly escaped. You could possibly
>reference an environment variable.
>
Which is the reason that HTML, etc. define character entities:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_and_HTML_character_entity_references

(which happen to include euro and yen (yuan), but not dollar).  And
the customary encoding employs '&' and ';'.  So if the authors need
to embed commands in a HTML document, they should employ lead-out
sequences with characters which can be encoded when they otherwise
appear, avoiding '&' and ';' and (e.g.) '$'.  Since code points
128 to 255 are used in the increasingly pervasive UTF-8, it's a
good idea to avoid these in embedded commands.

After referring earlier to xkcd/327, I searched the archives but
failed to find it.  It was likely in TSO-REXX, in the perennial
INTERPRET thread.  Same need for prudence.

-- gil

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Re: REXX "address" environments

[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz  , Seymour J.) writes:
> I generally preferred XEDIT but I missed having two kinds of shift.
> But I'm a tool-building guy and XEDIT had better facilities for
> building edit macros than ISPF/PDF EDIT has.

there were several internally developed 3270/fullscreen editors prior to
& more mature than xedit (internal developed heavily ran on virtual
machine based offerring regardless of the platform that the development
was for).

when xedit was selected for the product release ... there was some
clamor about there were much better alternatives.  In one "truth is
greater than fiction" there was a response that effectively said that
one of the other editors being better & more mature than xedit ... was
the fault of the author of the other editor ... and therefor it was his
responsibility to improve xedit to fix the deficiencies (almost totally
orthogonal to selecting one of the alternatives for product release, in
place of xedit).

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Re: IBM z/196 and AS/400

[Phil Smith]

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Tom Duerbusch  
wrote:
> Ok, I've reread the announcement letter.

> I see my confusion...

> The z/196 supports Power Blades.

> And Power Blades support i5 (the operating system formerly known as i5.OS or
> OS/400).

> It doesn't mean that z/196 has the support for the i5 OS.

> Which is kind of strange.

> Is this a licensing issue where IBM couldn't get a license for i5 to run on
> the z/196?  Different divisions have their own chiefs

> Or is it that there is some emulation involved with running i5 on POWER that
> isn't available on the z/196?

> Or is it that there are some device drivers, performance metrics that can't
> be obtained, or something, that means i5 isn't available for production, at
> this time?

> Oh well
> I guess that is why there hasn't been any chatter on the forums about this.

I doubt very much that it's any of these, and I don't actually find it strange. 
The big wins are Linux and Windows, not i. This is the first release, and 
nobody really knows whether zBX will take off or what. The worst possible 
result would be that zBX were to wind up with one i customer (or only a few): 
the support costs etc. would be a disaster (ObAnecdote: a vendor I worked for 
had a product with ONE customer. Every call was a fire-drill; they probably 
lost money on that one in the end.)

So doing the dev etc. for i on zBX makes no sense until zBX is self-supporting. 
And certainly not until after Windows is supported.

P.S. "z196". It's hardware, no slash.
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p...@voltage.com
Voltage Security, Inc.
www.voltage.com


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IPCS Control Block Failed Acroynm check

[michealbutz]

Hi,

 I have a control block formatted by BLSQMDEF and BLSQMDEF which is being 
formatted
correctly in all areas 

Of a dump with the exception of one area 

The Acroynm looks right but I get message that it failed the acronym test

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Re: ISPF 3.4: Migrate to Level 2?

[Larry Burch]

Thanks for the assistance.  And fortunately the " / ml2" parms are 
perpetuated to "=" line commands on subsequent lines.  (E. g., in Steve's 
illustration, entering an equal sign on the line for "SCOMSTO.TR.UTF16" 
would auto-add the " / ml2" for it, too.)  And all of these will be 
processed in sequence, and can be served by the same tape mount.

And the datasets are HBacked-up, so I'm okay there.

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