Re: Customizing TSOPROC
Any idea or suggestions would be much appreciated. I've noticed that you have a tendency to ask some pretty basic questions. And, it appears that you never crack a manual before asking. IBM-Main is not here to give lessons. Rather, it's here to help those who've done their homework, and/or do not necessarily understand what the manuals state. Everybody here is a volunteer, and some go above and beyond. At the risk of being flamed, I have two suggestions: 1. Read the manuals BEFORE asking, and 2. Consider asking for some training. PS: there is an IBM RedBook called z/OS Basics, or something similar. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Customizing TSOPROC
I agree my mistake for not being effective on homework. Thanks for your suggestion. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Any idea or suggestions would be much appreciated. I've noticed that you have a tendency to ask some pretty basic questions. And, it appears that you never crack a manual before asking. IBM-Main is not here to give lessons. Rather, it's here to help those who've done their homework, and/or do not necessarily understand what the manuals state. Everybody here is a volunteer, and some go above and beyond. At the risk of being flamed, I have two suggestions: 1. Read the manuals BEFORE asking, and 2. Consider asking for some training. PS: there is an IBM RedBook called z/OS Basics, or something similar. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RES: BatchPipes/MVS
we use it very heavily as well on 11 way sysplex.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
MFNetDisk PRO version. More fix and much better performance.
HI, I uploaded new MFNetDisk PRO version today which improves dramatically the MFNetDisk performance. The new MFNetDisk PRO support stacked CCWS, this enable to send many CCW in one TCP request. This reduce the load on TCP and reduce the CPU utilizaion and increase the IO per second by factor of 2 in my computer. MFNetDisk can control now the CPU utilization in the MF by changing the number of tasks running in MF MFNetDisk. The latest version was uploaded today, 30 minutes ago, contain fix to handling the CCW PCI bit specially for sacked CCW. This fix reduce the elapse time in my computer for compression and reading PDS file, by another 33% using together with the Stacked CCW MFNetDisk PRO version. In overall, the MFNetDisk PRO performance is now acceptable in MF from the point of view of performance. To download the standard or PRO version you need to fill CODE_REQ in my site www.mfnetdisk.com. MFNetDisk enables you to emulate tapes and disk in MF and to replicate your real disks (IBM, HDS and other) to PC. MFNetDisk can share disk and tape without distance limitation or without any MF type because it uses TCP. MFNetDisk supports also old MVS OS390 the same as ZOS. Thanks, Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UTC offset for dates in the past?
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:27:34 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Is Shane's suggestion practical? (And John G. frequently suggests this should be in a common service, not reinvented by each individual programmer.) Well, given the fact that I only have one or two timezones to deal with, in this particular case it is. Clearly, if I would have to deal with an arbitrary number of timezones and extended periods in the past, it would be more of a hassle... Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UTC offset for dates in the past?
I forgot to respond to an assertion made on this thread to the effect that operating systems other than Z/OS gets this right. My daughter audits chemical tests where the audit trail requirements are pretty stringent with regard to timing and sequencing. She observed that with their Windows-based instrumentation and processors, the file timestamps on files created before the DST changeover are reported by Windows as one hour off, i.e., as if DST had been in effect at the time of file creation. The IT people tried to tell her that this was an application error. She had to show them several web pages where this problem was discussed and acknowledged, but a fix was declined by Microsoft. Dale Miller -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to verify if Secured FTP is being used
* That is, the process may go on and pick a 'security mechanism'. *Depends on ftpd configuration and what you mean with secure transfer(still talking about ftp and not network tricks) If you need a secure login that is often used for secure transfer you cannot pick a security mechanism after ftpOpen. You can receive a message like:* 530 Have to use explicit SSL/TLS before logging on. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UTC offset for dates in the past?
Windoze runs in time=local. Yep, you read that right ... Causes all sorts of issues in multi-boot systems for folks that aren't aware, and choose to install their Linux systems in the default time=UTC. Every re-boot can cause the (hardware) clock to be reset. And NTP is no help, because the presumption of time base is (always) wrong. Bin there, dun that ... Shane ... On Thu, Jun 16th, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Dale Miller wrote: I forgot to respond to an assertion made on this thread to the effect that operating systems other than Z/OS gets this right. My daughter audits chemical tests where the audit trail requirements are pretty stringent with regard to timing and sequencing. She observed that with their Windows-based instrumentation and processors, the file timestamps on files created before the DST changeover are reported by Windows as one hour off, i.e., as if DST had been in effect at the time of file creation. The IT people tried to tell her that this was an application error. She had to show them several web pages where this problem was discussed and acknowledged, but a fix was declined by Microsoft. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
zMan on 15 June told about two clueless CS PhD's. A few years ago, my friend an I were getting a lot of chuckles out the cluelessness of a CS textbook, but we were reduced to uncontrollable laughter when the author showed an example of doing a payroll using an array, and concluded the exercise with the statement: Of course, in the real world a file might consist of hundreds of records. Dale Miller -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
Regarding my mention of the Anchorage ATC programmers using Fortran and the Commercial Subroutine Package, Tom Simons wrote: That Commercial Subroutine Package must have been IDEAL. Since I've made a few mistakes lately by misremembering things, I checked back with Google and found www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/ 1130/1130_facts4.html which describes the Commercial Subroutine Package for the 1130. CSP may have descended from an IDEAL or vice- versa. The only IDEAL's I can remember were an optional mode in Borland TASM (Intel X86 assembler), and something from CA. Dale Miller -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT
Thanks you for this , I'll use it for the future. In this time for a quick solution I used REXX for building the appropriate steps accordingly to the datasets list. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Frank Yaeger yae...@us.ibm.com wrote: matan cohen on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 06/15/2011 04:59:44 AM: I need to convert this DFSORT function to an older version of DFSORT (FINDREP is not supported) : ... *//SYSIN DD ** * OPTION COPY OUTREC FINDREP=(IN=(X'00',...), OUT=C' ') the problem is that i need to run it in flexible way so it will run the same on different kind of datasets* (FB datasets) , so i tried this :* OPTION COPY ALTSEQ CODE=(0040,0140) OUTREC FIELDS=(1,TRAN=ALTSEQ) ... is there a way to run it without knowing the LRECL of the dataset? There's no built-in equivalent to FINDREP for that, but you can use the following DFSORT/ICETOOL job to do what you asked for. It uses the first FB record to create one VB record with LRECL+4, uses the RDW length-4 to construct an OUTREC statement with the correct LRECL as the length, and then uses the OUTREC statement to change the FB input records. //S1 EXEC PGM=ICETOOL //TOOLMSG DD SYSOUT=* //DFSMSG DD SYSOUT=* //IN DD DSN=... input file (FB/n) //T1 DD DSN=T1,UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(1,1)),DISP=(,PASS) //C3 DD DSN=C3,UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(1,1)),DISP=(,PASS) //OUT DD DSN=... output file (FB/n) //TOOLIN DD * COPY FROM(IN) TO(T1) USING(CTL1) COPY FROM(T1) TO(C3) USING(CTL2) COPY FROM(IN) TO(OUT) USING(CTL3) /* //CTL1CNTL DD * OPTION STOPAFT=1 OUTFIL FTOV /* //CTL2CNTL DD * OUTFIL VTOF,BUILD=(C' OUTREC BUILD=(1,', 1,2,BI,SUB,+4,EDIT=(T),C',TRAN=ALTSEQ)',80:X) /* //CTL3CNTL DD * ALTSEQ CODE=(0040,0140) //DD DSN=*.C3,VOL=REF=*.C3,DISP=(OLD,PASS) Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Chacteristics of HOME ASC mode
What if you Have a ss pc rtn and want to access data and inst from the program that issued the ss pc rtn Home is not where the issuer of a ss pc came from necessarily. Consider if home PC'd to ASID P which then PC's to you. The data from the issuer of your PC is not in home but in P. As has been described, ALET=1 in AR mode works for that case as long as your PC routine is defined properly.. If you need the home space (for example to examine the current TCB), then ALET=2 is appropriate to use. If you were to switch to home ASC mode to look at this, your code would have to be in common storage. Very few documented system services (if any) work in home ASC mode. If they do not say they do, then do not use them in that way Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Sysplex Enabled z/OS Unix File System Question
We're beginning our conversion process to a sysplex enabled file system environment and was wondering if there's any real value in adding the SYSNAME() option to application related file system mount commands in our shared BPXPRMxx member or just accept IBM's recommendation to use the default (in essence to SYSNAME(SYSNAME.)). We're mostly zFS at this point and the remaining HFS file systems should be converted to zFS prior to the migration process. We'll be doing this under zOS 1.12 within the entire sysplex. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Some people are electrifying, they light up a room when they leave. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rocket Software's MXI
Jim, Perhaps Eric was think of the freebie version of MXI. Perhaps not. Regardless, the why question has validity, for the reasons you noted *and* to gain an understanding as to the driving force behind the question. When someone asks me for advice like this, my first question would also be why?. Insight into why Gregg is think of replacing it goes a long way into giving a good recommendation. SHOWZOS, TASID, freebie MXI, CA-SYSVIEW, and Mark Z's IPLINFO are some that come to mind. Not completely comparable, but without an understanding of how you use MXI, that's the best I can recommend. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Petersen, Jim Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Rocket Software's MXI I may get some reaction to this but I don't think you need to know the reason why. The fact that someone has asked for comparable products is the only question which needs to be answered. Normal reasons for why are cost, non-timely support, more bugs that necessary in the product,and probably many more. We found CA SYSVIEW to be a suitable replacement for MXI. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Mendelson Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Rocket Software's MXI Why --Original Message-- From: Gregg Kimbrough Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Rocket Software's MXI Sent: Jun 15, 2011 2:21 PM Hi All: anyone know of a comparable replacement to MXI? Thanks, Gregg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information in this Internet Email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this Email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this Email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing The Home Depot terms of business or client engagement letter. The Home Depot disclaims all responsibility and liability for the accuracy and content of this attachment and for any damages or losses arising from any inaccuracies, errors, viruses, e.g., worms, trojan horses, etc., or other items of a destructive nature, which may be contained in this attachment and shall not be liable for direct, indirect, consequential or special damages in connection with this e-mail message ! or its attachment. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rocket Software's MXI
Thanks Jim. I would like to say it's business and I am the one who justified bringing it into BCBSFL. Thanks, Gregg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rocket Software's MXI
Yes, you are also right. I'm trying to be tactful and polite. This is just for a possible replacement. We also have the freebies in house, ShOWMVS, TASID AND IPLINFO. Which I generally use MXI and IPLINFO. We have a license to use MXI and looking at my options. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dale Miller zMan on 15 June told about two clueless CS PhD's. A few years ago, my friend an I were getting a lot of chuckles out the cluelessness of a CS textbook, but we were reduced to uncontrollable laughter when the author showed an example of doing a payroll using an array, and concluded the exercise with the statement: Of course, in the real world a file might consist of hundreds of records. What, you haven't seen small files on big computers before? :-) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sysplex Enabled z/OS Unix File System Question
snip We're beginning our conversion process to a sysplex enabled file system environment and was wondering if there's any real value in adding the SYSNAME() option to application related file system mount commands in our shared BPXPRMxx member or just accept IBM's recommendation to use the default (in essence to SYSNAME(SYSNAME.)). /snip In the original shared file system concept, the owning system actually performed all IO to the Physical File System (PFS). XCF was used to function ship IO requests to the owning system. I have not had time to research all of the details, but with z/OS 1.11 and higher (PTF avail for 1.9 and above), I believe this is no longer the case. Each system will perform its own IO (?). I believe the SYSNAME on the mount command is used to designate the owning system. Given that the owning system is no longer required to perform all IO, I would not bother to assign a owning system to the PFS. If it is truly a shared PFS, the AUTOMOVE attribute should be adequate for your purposes. The $SYSNAME parameter in BPXPRMxx is actually used in the construction of the logical structure of the SYSPLEX ROOT and the SYSTEM ROOT and is used to separate system specific work (/tmp /var,) from system specific ($VERSION) and application shared PFS's. In my own implementation, I do not use SYSNAME() on the mount commands. I do use $SYSNAME in BPXPRMxx. Of course, I may have misunderstood the SYSNAME reference for the mount command. If so, I am sure to be corrected. Check Setting up A SYSPLEX (SA22-7625-xx) and MERGING SYSTEMS into a SYSPLEX(SG24-6818-xx) . HTH, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
A long time ago a friend of mine told me that the mental abilities to do computer programming, music, and foreign languages are probably linked genetically. Since then I have noticed a lot of anecdotal evidence to support this theory, including myself. But I have also found a lot of people who are strong in only one of those three possibly interrelated skills. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: An upbeat story Thats interesting did a lot of Sysprog/Network Engineer consul Todd, Thats interesting did a lot of Sysprog/Network Engineer consulting and found a lot of the 'crew' I worked with were either musical or very creative. Interesting, I am into photography, etc before I was into 'systems'...makes you think Scott J Ford From: Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) z...@cdc.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 5:18:07 PM Subject: Re: An upbeat story The main thing I have found that makes a good sysprog is the ability and drive to not let a problem or issue beat you - that I will find the damn answer drive that makes you always try and solve a problem. And you need to have excellent problem solving skills. I've found that good operators can make good sysprogs and programmers if they want to make that move. However, one of the best DBA's I ever worked with had a Music degree in college. He liked music, but he had excellent drive and problem solving skills. And IT paid a lot better than being a music teacher. C. Todd Burrell PMP, MCSE 2003:Security MCITP:Enterprise Administrator Security+, Network+ ITIL V3 Foundations CSC Lead z/OS Systems Programmer ITSO (404) 723-2017 (Cell) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: An upbeat story I came up through the ranks: Operations - Systems Programming - Network Engineering - Development Been a joy almost the entire route, had bumps buts thats life. IMHO its very subjective to ask if Non-IT ppl make better programmers or not. I feel/think there are a lot of variables to consider. Aptitude is a big one ..ability to learn ...self-starter... Scott J Ford From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 3:22:09 PM Subject: Re: An upbeat story -snip-- The non-IT thing is interesting. At my company we have many application developers that started elsewhere at the company. Me, for one. I personally had previous IT skills, and some schooling in programming, but most of the others I believe did not. Do non-IT people make better COBOL programmers? Why might that be? -unsnip-- I started college in a General Engineering program. I think that was useful as I had exposure to different types of problems from Mechanical, Civil (What's a CIVIL Engineer? A polite one?), Electrical, Chemical and Mining situations. It helped me learn to take a broader look at problems and implement solutions that crossed the so-called boundaries between the various engineering disciplines. So I would guess that non-IT people might have a better grasp of the types of problems that others areas of the company might encounter. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the
Re: An upbeat story
bi...@mainstar.com (Bill Fairchild) writes: A long time ago a friend of mine told me that the mental abilities to do computer programming, music, and foreign languages are probably linked genetically. Since then I have noticed a lot of anecdotal evidence to support this theory, including myself. But I have also found a lot of people who are strong in only one of those three possibly interrelated skills. a least one of the scenarios is whether a person becomes as fluent in a computer language as in their native language ... one of the supposed traits of fluency is actually thinking dreaming in a language (as opposed to constantly translating between the language they are working in and some other language that they think in). anecdotal stories are people that have had dreams in a computer language. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Antwort: Sysplex Enabled z/OS Unix File System Question
One point is, that all access to the physical file system has to be coordinated by the owning system. So when the task is executing on the owning system then no problem. But when it execs on another system, then there will be some overhead in communicating (literature reads about function shipping). The actual I/O will be done by the owning system. So when you know the majority of tasks is running on one system, give this system the ownership. This is valid for all types of physical file systems and available for years in sysplex shared HFS (I think z/OS was called OS/390 that time). This type of ownership is called the Unix Owner. The physical file systems do not need to know about whether they are running in a sysplex or not. With z/OS V1R11 there is one more layer available for zFS, the zFS Owner. This just indicates, the physical file system is now sysplex aware and z/OS Unix doesn't need to care any more. So, the function is directly given from z/OS Unix to zFS and then may be shipped to another zFS (typically running in another MVS). On first view no vast difference. But zFS is able to move zFS Owner to that image with most usage dynamically. And that's the point: at mount time zFS Owner equals Unix owner. During run time, dynamic move of zFS Owner may happen when zFS finds out how to reduce function shipping (based on I/O activity). For me it is not clear what you mean by sysplex enabled? Sysplex shared HFS (with typically various types of PFS like zFS, by the way: since z/OS V1R10 you can (at last) dynamically change the sysplex root and therefore really sysplex enable this part of HFS) or sysplex aware zFS (forming the HFS)? Hint: HFS = Hierarchical Files System -- that's the entire tree or a sub-tree or a set of sub-trees. PFS = Physical File System -- various types are available, for example HFS (accessing HFS data sets similar to PO data sets), zFS Colony Address Space (accessing VSAM linear data sets) or TFS Colony Address Space (accessing data spaces in memory). So, speaking of sysplex aware zFS, I would say it doesn't really matter what you are coding to SYSNAME parameter. Instead, speaking of sysplex shared HFS (especially with not sysplex aware zFS) it is quite important. Cheers Michael Von:Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com An: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Datum: 2011-06-16 14:06 Betreff:Sysplex Enabled z/OS Unix File System Question Gesendet von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu We're beginning our conversion process to a sysplex enabled file system environment and was wondering if there's any real value in adding the SYSNAME() option to application related file system mount commands in our shared BPXPRMxx member or just accept IBM's recommendation to use the default (in essence to SYSNAME(SYSNAME.)). We're mostly zFS at this point and the remaining HFS file systems should be converted to zFS prior to the migration process. We'll be doing this under zOS 1.12 within the entire sysplex. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Some people are electrifying, they light up a room when they leave. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Sysplex Enabled z/OS Unix File System Question
One point is, that all access to the physical file system has to be coordinated by the owning system. So when the task is executing on the owning system then no problem. But when it execs on another system, then there will be some overhead in communicating (literature reads about function shipping). The actual I/O will be done by the owning system. So when you know the majority of tasks is running on one system, give this system the ownership. This is valid for all types of physical file systems and available for years in sysplex shared HFS (I think z/OS was called OS/390 that time). This type of ownership is called the Unix Owner. The physical file systems do not need to know about whether they are running in a sysplex or not. One thing not mentioned above and in the prior post (this applies to HFS and zFS): If the file system is mounted read only, then the I/O can be done by the local system and does not have to be function shipped. So only mount file systems R/W if you have to. I have found that many people outside of the MVS team don't realize this and request BPXPRMxx updates or mount product root file systems R/W when they only need to be R/O. The SMP/E controlled product root is all that needs to be R/W. -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Sysplex Enabled z/OS Unix File System Question
I am planning to mount the version (and sysplex root) file systems as read only as per IBM's recommendations. I was curious about the expected benefits on assigning read/write application related file systems to specific systems or just accept the default and let the system reassign ownership based on file system performance characteristics. Mark Jacobs On 06/16/11 09:44, Mark Zelden wrote: One point is, that all access to the physical file system has to be coordinated by the owning system. So when the task is executing on the owning system then no problem. But when it execs on another system, then there will be some overhead in communicating (literature reads about function shipping). The actual I/O will be done by the owning system. So when you know the majority of tasks is running on one system, give this system the ownership. This is valid for all types of physical file systems and available for years in sysplex shared HFS (I think z/OS was called OS/390 that time). This type of ownership is called the Unix Owner. The physical file systems do not need to know about whether they are running in a sysplex or not. One thing not mentioned above and in the prior post (this applies to HFS and zFS): If the file system is mounted read only, then the I/O can be done by the local system and does not have to be function shipped. So only mount file systems R/W if you have to. I have found that many people outside of the MVS team don't realize this and request BPXPRMxx updates or mount product root file systems R/W when they only need to be R/O. The SMP/E controlled product root is all that needs to be R/W. -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Some people are electrifying, they light up a room when they leave. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UTC offset for dates in the past?
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:41:31 +1000, Shane Ginnane wrote: Windoze runs in time=local. Yep, you read that right ... Oh, heck. I would be only slightly surprised if even some z/OS sites did that. It's a shortcut taken by developers in the early versions of a new OS. Usually they intend to provide time conversion by GA. Often schedule pressure precludes. Mac OS ran that way until (I believe) OS X. Causes all sorts of issues in multi-boot systems for folks that aren't aware, and choose to install their Linux systems in the default time=UTC. Every re-boot can cause the (hardware) clock to be reset. And NTP is no help, because the presumption of time base is (always) wrong. Bin there, dun that ... I know. A few years ago, a Solaris x86 system was delivered to me here in Colorado. IT had set TZ=America/Arizona in hope of facilitating dual boot. On Thu, Jun 16th, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Dale Miller wrote: I forgot to respond to an assertion made on this thread to the effect that operating systems other than Z/OS gets this right. My daughter I said _nearly_ [emphasis added] every OS except z/OS. And I cited and and excerpted an article which (conspicuously?) omitted mention of Windows. audits chemical tests where the audit trail requirements are pretty stringent with regard to timing and sequencing. She observed that with their Windows-based instrumentation and processors, the file timestamps on files created before the DST changeover are reported by Windows Why do you even think of using Windows as a standard for comparison? (See recent upbeat thread started by Steve C.) as one hour off, i.e., as if DST had been in effect at the time of file creation. The IT people tried to tell her that this was an application error. She had to show them several web pages where this problem was discussed and acknowledged, but a fix was declined by Microsoft. Sauce for the goose. In the recent DCBE thread, several contributors (particularly IBM employees) lauded z/OS for steadfastly maintaining compatibility with previous incorrect behavior. Apply the same standard when judging Windows and z/OS. The Twinsun page avers that Cygwin uses the zoneinfo data base; I only hope correctly; I haven't tried it. VM/CMS SENDFILE commits the same offense for files sent before the DST change and received after. I haven't tried the experiment with TSO TRANSMIT. (Does TRANSMIT preserve time stamps?) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
I think everyone's observations are very true on the subject of what makes good sysprog etc. I wanted to pass on something else interesting. People with ADD and ADHD hyperfocus ..sort like locking in on a problem until solved and cant see anything else. The ability to hyperfocus makes a person with a wonderful ability to solve problems. GF works with all sorts of the learning disabled. The other kicker is that most of the ADD/ADHD are extremely intelligent.. Scott J Ford From: Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 9:10:51 AM Subject: Re: An upbeat story A long time ago a friend of mine told me that the mental abilities to do computer programming, music, and foreign languages are probably linked genetically. Since then I have noticed a lot of anecdotal evidence to support this theory, including myself. But I have also found a lot of people who are strong in only one of those three possibly interrelated skills. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: An upbeat story Thats interesting did a lot of Sysprog/Network Engineer consul Todd, Thats interesting did a lot of Sysprog/Network Engineer consulting and found a lot of the 'crew' I worked with were either musical or very creative. Interesting, I am into photography, etc before I was into 'systems'...makes you think Scott J Ford From: Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) z...@cdc.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 5:18:07 PM Subject: Re: An upbeat story The main thing I have found that makes a good sysprog is the ability and drive to not let a problem or issue beat you - that I will find the damn answer drive that makes you always try and solve a problem. And you need to have excellent problem solving skills. I've found that good operators can make good sysprogs and programmers if they want to make that move. However, one of the best DBA's I ever worked with had a Music degree in college. He liked music, but he had excellent drive and problem solving skills. And IT paid a lot better than being a music teacher. C. Todd Burrell PMP, MCSE 2003:Security MCITP:Enterprise Administrator Security+, Network+ ITIL V3 Foundations CSC Lead z/OS Systems Programmer ITSO (404) 723-2017 (Cell) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: An upbeat story I came up through the ranks: Operations - Systems Programming - Network Engineering - Development Been a joy almost the entire route, had bumps buts thats life. IMHO its very subjective to ask if Non-IT ppl make better programmers or not. I feel/think there are a lot of variables to consider. Aptitude is a big one ..ability to learn ...self-starter... Scott J Ford From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 3:22:09 PM Subject: Re: An upbeat story -snip-- The non-IT thing is interesting. At my company we have many application developers that started elsewhere at the company. Me, for one. I personally had previous IT skills, and some schooling in programming, but most of the others I believe did not. Do non-IT people make better COBOL programmers? Why might that be? -unsnip-- I started college in a General Engineering program. I think that was useful as I had exposure to different types of problems from Mechanical, Civil (What's a CIVIL Engineer? A polite one?), Electrical, Chemical and Mining situations. It helped me learn to take a broader look at problems and implement solutions that crossed the so-called boundaries between the various engineering disciplines. So I would guess that non-IT people might have a better grasp of the types of problems that others areas of the company might encounter. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff
RACF and TSS in the Parallel Sysplex
Good day: We are running a 3 system parallel sysplex secured with TSS. We want to introduce a 4th machine into the plex which will essentially be a DB2 server. In order to keep costs manageable we will be running our IBM software using the zNALC license model including RACF. Has anyone done this with success? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
I resemble that remark. Being one of the afflicted, I can tell you that there are several attributes of ADD/ADHD that can be a real advantage in this profession. However, there are several different flavors of ADD/ADHD, so it is not universal by any means. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: I think everyone's observations are very true on the subject of what makes good sysprog etc. I wanted to pass on something else interesting. People with ADD and ADHD hyperfocus ..sort like locking in on a problem until solved and cant see anything else. The ability to hyperfocus makes a person with a wonderful ability to solve problems. GF works with all sorts of the learning disabled. The other kicker is that most of the ADD/ADHD are extremely intelligent.. Scott J Ford From: Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 9:10:51 AM Subject: Re: An upbeat story A long time ago a friend of mine told me that the mental abilities to do computer programming, music, and foreign languages are probably linked genetically. Since then I have noticed a lot of anecdotal evidence to support this theory, including myself. But I have also found a lot of people who are strong in only one of those three possibly interrelated skills. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: An upbeat story Thats interesting did a lot of Sysprog/Network Engineer consul Todd, Thats interesting did a lot of Sysprog/Network Engineer consulting and found a lot of the 'crew' I worked with were either musical or very creative. Interesting, I am into photography, etc before I was into 'systems'...makes you think Scott J Ford From: Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) z...@cdc.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 5:18:07 PM Subject: Re: An upbeat story The main thing I have found that makes a good sysprog is the ability and drive to not let a problem or issue beat you - that I will find the damn answer drive that makes you always try and solve a problem. And you need to have excellent problem solving skills. I've found that good operators can make good sysprogs and programmers if they want to make that move.However, one of the best DBA's I ever worked with had a Music degree in college. He liked music, but he had excellent drive and problem solving skills. And IT paid a lot better than being a music teacher. C. Todd Burrell PMP, MCSE 2003:Security MCITP:Enterprise Administrator Security+, Network+ ITIL V3 Foundations CSC Lead z/OS Systems Programmer ITSO (404) 723-2017 (Cell) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: An upbeat story I came up through the ranks: Operations - Systems Programming - Network Engineering - Development Been a joy almost the entire route, had bumps buts thats life. IMHO its very subjective to ask if Non-IT ppl make better programmers or not. I feel/think there are a lot of variables to consider. Aptitude is a big one ..ability to learn ...self-starter... Scott J Ford From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 3:22:09 PM Subject: Re: An upbeat story -snip-- The non-IT thing is interesting. At my company we have many application developers that started elsewhere at the company. Me, for one. I personally had previous IT skills, and some schooling in programming, but most of the others I believe did not. Do non-IT people make better COBOL programmers? Why might that be? -unsnip-- I started college in a General Engineering program. I think that was useful as I had exposure to different types of problems from Mechanical, Civil (What's a CIVIL Engineer? A polite one?), Electrical, Chemical and Mining situations. It helped me learn to take a broader look at problems and implement solutions that crossed the so-called boundaries between the various engineering disciplines. So I would guess that non-IT people might have a better grasp of the types of problems that others areas of the company might encounter. Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at
Re: RACF and TSS in the Parallel Sysplex
I know there is an issue with console security in a sysplex with mixed security products. I think it can be manageable, but you have to understand it fully to be sure you avoid exposures. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Perry Mayes perry.ma...@rcmp-grc.gc.cawrote: Good day: We are running a 3 system parallel sysplex secured with TSS. We want to introduce a 4th machine into the plex which will essentially be a DB2 server. In order to keep costs manageable we will be running our IBM software using the zNALC license model including RACF. Has anyone done this with success? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
I have it too, she thinks. Your right Scott J Ford Scott, I have it too, she thinks. Your right Scott J Ford From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 10:49:23 AM Subject: Re: An upbeat story I resemble that remark. Being one of the afflicted, I can tell you that there are several attributes of ADD/ADHD that can be a real advantage in this profession. However, there are several different flavors of ADD/ADHD, so it is not universal by any means. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: I think everyone's observations are very true on the subject of what makes good sysprog etc. I wanted to pass on something else interesting. People with ADD and ADHD hyperfocus ..sort like locking in on a problem until solved and cant see anything else. The ability to hyperfocus makes a person with a wonderful ability to solve problems. GF works with all sorts of the learning disabled. The other kicker is that most of the ADD/ADHD are extremely intelligent.. Scott J Ford From: Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 9:10:51 AM Subject: Re: An upbeat story A long time ago a friend of mine told me that the mental abilities to do computer programming, music, and foreign languages are probably linked genetically. Since then I have noticed a lot of anecdotal evidence to support this theory, including myself. But I have also found a lot of people who are strong in only one of those three possibly interrelated skills. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: An upbeat story Thats interesting did a lot of Sysprog/Network Engineer consul Todd, Thats interesting did a lot of Sysprog/Network Engineer consulting and found a lot of the 'crew' I worked with were either musical or very creative. Interesting, I am into photography, etc before I was into 'systems'...makes you think Scott J Ford From: Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) z...@cdc.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 5:18:07 PM Subject: Re: An upbeat story The main thing I have found that makes a good sysprog is the ability and drive to not let a problem or issue beat you - that I will find the damn answer drive that makes you always try and solve a problem. And you need to have excellent problem solving skills. I've found that good operators can make good sysprogs and programmers if they want to make that move. However, one of the best DBA's I ever worked with had a Music degree in college. He liked music, but he had excellent drive and problem solving skills. And IT paid a lot better than being a music teacher. C. Todd Burrell PMP, MCSE 2003:Security MCITP:Enterprise Administrator Security+, Network+ ITIL V3 Foundations CSC Lead z/OS Systems Programmer ITSO (404) 723-2017 (Cell) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: An upbeat story I came up through the ranks: Operations - Systems Programming - Network Engineering - Development Been a joy almost the entire route, had bumps buts thats life. IMHO its very subjective to ask if Non-IT ppl make better programmers or not. I feel/think there are a lot of variables to consider. Aptitude is a big one ..ability to learn ...self-starter... Scott J Ford From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 3:22:09 PM Subject: Re: An upbeat story -snip-- - The non-IT thing is interesting. At my company we have many application developers that started elsewhere at the company. Me, for one. I personally had previous IT skills, and some schooling in programming, but most of the others I believe did not. Do non-IT people make better COBOL programmers? Why might that be? -unsnip-- I started college in a General Engineering program. I think that was useful as I had exposure to different types of problems from Mechanical, Civil (What's a CIVIL Engineer? A polite one?), Electrical, Chemical and Mining situations. It helped me learn to take a broader look at problems and implement solutions that crossed the so-called boundaries between the various engineering disciplines. So I would guess that non-IT people might have a better grasp of the types of problems that others areas of the
Shark configuration
I'm looking for some help configuring some storage on an F20 model ESS box. We have just been given a substantial amount of disk space in one of our sharks. The storage had previously been configured as open system storage. Now we want to convert it to S/390 storage and use it for our z/OS system. When I view the storage allocation, I can see that the storage shows up as mostly unassigned (some fragments are unallocated). What I am trying to do is create a few LCUs to which I can assign the space as 3390-9 volumes. However, in the LCU table, only the 4 LCUs that address the S/390 storage presently in the box appear. No table entries appear for un-configured LCUs. I can't find any mechanism that permits me to add an LCU, even though the documentation says that I can have as many as 16 LCUs. Has anyone with experience with shark configuration point me in the right direction? Am I going to have to use the batch configurator to do this? If so, where do I find documentation and how do I access it? Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital -- The contents of this e-mail (and any attachments) are confidential, may be privileged and may contain copyright material. You may only reproduce or distribute material if you are expressly authorized by us to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email (and any attachments) is unauthorized. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and immediately delete this e-mail and any copies of it from your system. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
XCF storage available
Hi, I am trying to make some adjustements to the Coupling Facility based on some recent performance issues, but have a concern that I cannot seem to find a display to provide me with the total storage available. I can get a lot of information about the various structures, but I would like to know how much physical storage is available for use. It's possible I'm looking right at it on one or more displays, but it's not clear to me where that information is displayed. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to how I can determine the actual storage in a given CF? Thanks.Ken Hynes -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RACF and TSS in the Parallel Sysplex
Define 'success' :-) I'd be very concerned about the administration of such a multi headed beast. If there is shared DASD, then all would have to be kept in sync, a near impossibility. And, oh my, the passwords. You'd want some sort of common password management scheme or your users may form lynch mobs. I have two separate RACF environments (no shared DASD) to manage and it is a royal PITA. I'd ask CA to either play ball or strike out. To management I'd suggest that the TCO of such a beast might outweigh any difference in just software costs. But perhaps the real issue is that a knowledgeable auditor will burn you but good. They'd argue that shared dasd needs to be protected by a shared security database. The good news is that the two are close enough that conversion from TSS to RACF is not that bad. IMNSHO: pick one. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Perry Mayes Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: RACF and TSS in the Parallel Sysplex Good day: We are running a 3 system parallel sysplex secured with TSS. We want to introduce a 4th machine into the plex which will essentially be a DB2 server. In order to keep costs manageable we will be running our IBM software using the zNALC license model including RACF. Has anyone done this with success? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
I'm not sure I remember correctly (it's been a long time), but I seem to recall that the LCU is defined in the IOCDS/IODF. That is, you define the logical construct in the host, and then create units and assign space in the Shark to match the IOCDS/IODF. IIRC, defining/assigning space was easy enough, but deleting/reassigning was difficult. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Myers Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Shark configuration I'm looking for some help configuring some storage on an F20 model ESS box. We have just been given a substantial amount of disk space in one of our sharks. The storage had previously been configured as open system storage. Now we want to convert it to S/390 storage and use it for our z/OS system. When I view the storage allocation, I can see that the storage shows up as mostly unassigned (some fragments are unallocated). What I am trying to do is create a few LCUs to which I can assign the space as 3390-9 volumes. However, in the LCU table, only the 4 LCUs that address the S/390 storage presently in the box appear. No table entries appear for un-configured LCUs. I can't find any mechanism that permits me to add an LCU, even though the documentation says that I can have as many as 16 LCUs. Has anyone with experience with shark configuration point me in the right direction? Am I going to have to use the batch configurator to do this? If so, where do I find documentation and how do I access it? Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital -- The contents of this e-mail (and any attachments) are confidential, may be privileged and may contain copyright material. You may only reproduce or distribute material if you are expressly authorized by us to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email (and any attachments) is unauthorized. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and immediately delete this e-mail and any copies of it from your system. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: XCF storage available
The RMF SYSRPTS(CF) report will have that information. On 06/16/11 11:32, Ken Hynes wrote: Hi, I am trying to make some adjustements to the Coupling Facility based on some recent performance issues, but have a concern that I cannot seem to find a display to provide me with the total storage available. I can get a lot of information about the various structures, but I would like to know how much physical storage is available for use. It's possible I'm looking right at it on one or more displays, but it's not clear to me where that information is displayed. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to how I can determine the actual storage in a given CF? Thanks.Ken Hynes -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Some people are electrifying, they light up a room when they leave. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: XCF storage available
Ken, Console command D CF,CFNAME=xx to see total defined structures and free space within your CF. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Hynes Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: XCF storage available Hi, I am trying to make some adjustements to the Coupling Facility based on some recent performance issues, but have a concern that I cannot seem to find a display to provide me with the total storage available. I can get a lot of information about the various structures, but I would like to know how much physical storage is available for use. It's possible I'm looking right at it on one or more displays, but it's not clear to me where that information is displayed. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to how I can determine the actual storage in a given CF? Thanks.Ken Hynes -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: XCF storage available
Try a /D CF command. Here's one of ours: COUPLING FACILITY SPACE UTILIZ ALLOCATED SPACE STRUCTURES:2520 M DUMP SPACE: 32 M FREE SPACE: 5199 M TOTAL SPACE: 7751 M -- This CF is defined with 8192M in the hardware. Can you log on opt the HMC? You can also see the storage assigned to the CF lpar there too. Alan Hi, I am trying to make some adjustements to the Coupling Facility based on some recent performance issues, but have a concern that I cannot seem to find a display to provide me with the total storage available. I can get a lot of information about the various structures, but I would like to know how much physical storage is available for use. It's possible I'm looking right at it on one or more displays, but it's not clear to me where that information is displayed. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to how I can determine the actual storage in a given CF? Thanks.Ken Hynes -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RACF and TSS in the Parallel Sysplex
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:33:48 -0400, Perry Mayes PERRY.MAYES@RCMP- GRC.GC.CA wrote: Has anyone done this with success? Thanks I worked with a previous installation that had a mixture of RACF and TSS systems in a sysplex with no problems. Granted, this was a 'Bronzeplex' by IBM's definition, so there was a minimum of datasharing going on (Logger and GRS star). As far as I know this is still operating this way today. Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RACF and TSS in the Parallel Sysplex
Hal, I think I would both respectively disagree and agree. Dang there I go hanging out on both sides of the fence. As a general matter of keeping things simple, sure going with just one security product would be a good idea. But in this case, the zNALC is going to have a very limited user base and the data set security layout should be able to be duplicated with some basic work (unless it is a mess ... in which case it represents an opportunity to clean things up and standardize). In the light of opportunity, it is a clear opportunity to beat CA over the head to fix licensing costs. It is always better to hold up the proverbial loaded gun when negotiating. Having RACF in-house give the opportunity to generally explore, compare, and gain some experience with RACF. Also, with all the conversion experts out there.. there are some tools to generally convert Top Secret into RACF without completing the rest of the conversion for the other LPARs. If there is a user provisioning product, it may be able to handle the added product as well. Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group LLC w: 513.305.6224 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:33:48 -0400, Perry Mayes PERRY.MAYES@RCMP- GRC.GC.CA wrote: Has anyone done this with success? Thanks I worked with a previous installation that had a mixture of RACF and TSS systems in a sysplex with no problems. Granted, this was a 'Bronzeplex' by IBM's definition, so there was a minimum of datasharing going on (Logger and GRS star). As far as I know this is still operating this way today. Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM 100th today - a thank you
Hi, Today we're celebrating IBM's 100th anniversary. The Endicott celebration for IBMers/IBM retirees is at Binghamton University Events center. Going over there shortly. But before I go, I just wanted to say THANK YOU to you to IBM customers --- for without you, we would not be celebrating this milestone. Here's the IBM 100 web site in case you'd like to look at the icons of progress. One of my favorites is the I heart Tux, but I really think we should have an I heart VM-bear. http://www.ibm.com/ibm100/us/en/ Regards, Pam C -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM turns 100.
Today IBM is celebrating its 100th Anniversary. To celebrate I have created a page where you can let IBM know how it influenced your life, the world and what IBM should do to last another 100 years. http://www.cicsworld.com/node/3978 Ian http://www.cicsworld.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
I've played guitar since I've been a sophomore in high school. I once was at an event in Chicago, and at lunch playing an instrument came up. I think everyone except maybe one played an instrument, if not then, in the past. At least 2 of them still played in bands. I havent' played in a band for a long time, but I played in blues jams almost every week, at least until I now live in Dubuque during the week. I had an unusual experience just last week with my guitar. I play a lot of old guitar instrumentals and back them with my laptop playing the rest of the music with midi music. We had a cruise on the Mississippi River as an employee event right after work, so I played for about an hour on the cruise. It was a lot of fun. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote: A long time ago a friend of mine told me that the mental abilities to do computer programming, music, and foreign languages are probably linked genetically. Since then I have noticed a lot of anecdotal evidence to support this theory, including myself. But I have also found a lot of people who are strong in only one of those three possibly interrelated skills. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
I think we're getting pretty OT here, but I'll throw my hat in the ring too. I was a German linguist with the USArmy for about 5 years in a past life. And I've sung in choirs pretty much my whole life. Currently I sing in a S.Gospel quartet and a couple of choirs. Although I took some piano lessons as a child, I would not claim to play any instrument. ddk A long time ago a friend of mine told me that the mental abilities to do computer programming, music, and foreign languages are probably linked genetically. Since then I have noticed a lot of anecdotal evidence to support this theory, including myself. But I have also found a lot of people who are strong in only one of those three possibly interrelated skills. Bill Fairchild Rocket Softwa This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
I think they did not delete the volumes on the Open System side. Click on the Storage button on the left. Click on the Open system button at the bottom. You have to go through and set the disk groups back to undefined to delete the volumes / raid arrays. It then takes quite a while to format the volumes. 2 hours for 72GB drives, a little less for smaller drives (but not half the time because they are slower). After the formatting is done, click on the Storage button on the left and you should be able able to see undefined 8-packs. Once you click on an 8 pack on the S/390 side, you can assign it to one of two LCUs. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Mike Myers mike.my...@pcmh.com wrote: I'm looking for some help configuring some storage on an F20 model ESS box. We have just been given a substantial amount of disk space in one of our sharks. The storage had previously been configured as open system storage. Now we want to convert it to S/390 storage and use it for our z/OS system. When I view the storage allocation, I can see that the storage shows up as mostly unassigned (some fragments are unallocated). What I am trying to do is create a few LCUs to which I can assign the space as 3390-9 volumes. However, in the LCU table, only the 4 LCUs that address the S/390 storage presently in the box appear. No table entries appear for un-configured LCUs. I can't find any mechanism that permits me to add an LCU, even though the documentation says that I can have as many as 16 LCUs. Has anyone with experience with shark configuration point me in the right direction? Am I going to have to use the batch configurator to do this? If so, where do I find documentation and how do I access it? Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital -- The contents of this e-mail (and any attachments) are confidential, may be privileged and may contain copyright material. You may only reproduce or distribute material if you are expressly authorized by us to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email (and any attachments) is unauthorized. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and immediately delete this e-mail and any copies of it from your system. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RACF and TSS in the Parallel Sysplex
We used the Vanguard Corporation to help with a project to convert one site's CA-TSS security to RACF. We also used the same corporation to convert another site from CA-ACF2 to RACF. We also use the Vanguard Security Administration and Reporting products to enhance the RACF security administration capabilities. We do not use the RACF SDSF panels for administration. These projects were initiated by the Ahold Corporation to support the security support for the companies it was providing computer support. These project eliminated the need to have expertise in all three mainframe security products. These projects were not initiated by HP. Regards Otto Schumacher HP Enterprise Services Infrastructure Specialist Ahold Account CICS Capacity Technical Support P.O. Box 6462 2000 Wade Hampton Blvd. LC1-302 Greenville, South Carolina, 29606 Cell: 864 569--5338 Tel: 864 987-1417 Fax: 864 987-4500 E-mail: otto.schumac...@hp.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: RACF and TSS in the Parallel Sysplex Hal, I think I would both respectively disagree and agree. Dang there I go hanging out on both sides of the fence. As a general matter of keeping things simple, sure going with just one security product would be a good idea. But in this case, the zNALC is going to have a very limited user base and the data set security layout should be able to be duplicated with some basic work (unless it is a mess ... in which case it represents an opportunity to clean things up and standardize). In the light of opportunity, it is a clear opportunity to beat CA over the head to fix licensing costs. It is always better to hold up the proverbial loaded gun when negotiating. Having RACF in-house give the opportunity to generally explore, compare, and gain some experience with RACF. Also, with all the conversion experts out there.. there are some tools to generally convert Top Secret into RACF without completing the rest of the conversion for the other LPARs. If there is a user provisioning product, it may be able to handle the added product as well. Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group LLC w: 513.305.6224 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:33:48 -0400, Perry Mayes PERRY.MAYES@RCMP- GRC.GC.CA wrote: Has anyone done this with success? Thanks I worked with a previous installation that had a mixture of RACF and TSS systems in a sysplex with no problems. Granted, this was a 'Bronzeplex' by IBM's definition, so there was a minimum of datasharing going on (Logger and GRS star). As far as I know this is still operating this way today. Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Happy 100th Birthday to IBM
Honk if you use computer technology... zNorman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
http://www.aspergerresources.com/famous_people_with_aspergers.html Issac Newton, Albert Einstein, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Henry Ford, Alexander Grahm Bell, Thomas Alva Edison, They forgot Nikola Telsa. Beat Edison's short range DC power with long range AC power. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: I think everyone's observations are very true on the subject of what makes good sysprog etc. I wanted to pass on something else interesting. People with ADD and ADHD hyperfocus ..sort like locking in on a problem until solved and cant see anything else. The ability to hyperfocus makes a person with a wonderful ability to solve problems. GF works with all sorts of the learning disabled. The other kicker is that most of the ADD/ADHD are extremely intelligent.. Scott J Ford -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
Mike: That did get rid of the disk groups and volumes. Thank you very much. Now comes part 2, which is to configure the disk groups as CKD and to assign volumes and PAVs. The one problem I am seeing now is that there still seems to be no mechanism for creating a new LCU. I am only seeing the 4 that were there previously. When I go to try to configure a storage group on the S/390 side, I am told I have to select an LCU from the list provided. I want instead to add 4-6 new LCUs and then assign these storage groups to them. I know that LCUs get defined in the HCD process for the IOCDS and IODF, but to make that a requirement for configuring the shark doesn't make much sense, unless a POR would push those definitions to the shark. It seems much more rational to me that the LCU definitions would be first made in the shark and then connect to the host after a POR. Any ideas? Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital Greenville, NC Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com 6/16/2011 1:02 PM I think they did not delete the volumes on the Open System side. Click on the Storage button on the left. Click on the Open system button at the bottom. You have to go through and set the disk groups back to undefined to delete the volumes / raid arrays. It then takes quite a while to format the volumes. 2 hours for 72GB drives, a little less for smaller drives (but not half the time because they are slower). After the formatting is done, click on the Storage button on the left and you should be able able to see undefined 8-packs. Once you click on an 8 pack on the S/390 side, you can assign it to one of two LCUs. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Mike Myers mike.my...@pcmh.com wrote: I'm looking for some help configuring some storage on an F20 model ESS box. We have just been given a substantial amount of disk space in one of our sharks. The storage had previously been configured as open system storage. Now we want to convert it to S/390 storage and use it for our z/OS system. When I view the storage allocation, I can see that the storage shows up as mostly unassigned (some fragments are unallocated). What I am trying to do is create a few LCUs to which I can assign the space as 3390-9 volumes. However, in the LCU table, only the 4 LCUs that address the S/390 storage presently in the box appear. No table entries appear for un-configured LCUs. I can't find any mechanism that permits me to add an LCU, even though the documentation says that I can have as many as 16 LCUs. Has anyone with experience with shark configuration point me in the right direction? Am I going to have to use the batch configurator to do this? If so, where do I find documentation and how do I access it? Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital -- The contents of this e-mail (and any attachments) are confidential, may be privileged and may contain copyright material. You may only reproduce or distribute material if you are expressly authorized by us to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email (and any attachments) is unauthorized. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and immediately delete this e-mail and any copies of it from your system. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
Hi Mike, The field engineer released the prior open configuration and set up the new configuration based on the volume sizes and and device address ranges that I wanted to use. He set that that up at the hardware. It took quite a while for the hardware processes to run. That was all done prior to IPLing (we don't do dynamic here) with the new IODF I built . We do share the box with open systems. I don't know if I could have done the hardware configuration or not, but it seemed like a good thing to leave to the field engineer, especially with other production systems already up and running on it. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Mike Myers mike.my...@pcmh.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:09:46 AM Subject: Re: Shark configuration Mike: That did get rid of the disk groups and volumes. Thank you very much. Now comes part 2, which is to configure the disk groups as CKD and to assign volumes and PAVs. The one problem I am seeing now is that there still seems to be no mechanism for creating a new LCU. I am only seeing the 4 that were there previously. When I go to try to configure a storage group on the S/390 side, I am told I have to select an LCU from the list provided. I want instead to add 4-6 new LCUs and then assign these storage groups to them. I know that LCUs get defined in the HCD process for the IOCDS and IODF, but to make that a requirement for configuring the shark doesn't make much sense, unless a POR would push those definitions to the shark. It seems much more rational to me that the LCU definitions would be first made in the shark and then connect to the host after a POR. Any ideas? Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital Greenville, NC Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com 6/16/2011 1:02 PM I think they did not delete the volumes on the Open System side. Click on the Storage button on the left. Click on the Open system button at the bottom. You have to go through and set the disk groups back to undefined to delete the volumes / raid arrays. It then takes quite a while to format the volumes. 2 hours for 72GB drives, a little less for smaller drives (but not half the time because they are slower). After the formatting is done, click on the Storage button on the left and you should be able able to see undefined 8-packs. Once you click on an 8 pack on the S/390 side, you can assign it to one of two LCUs. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Mike Myers mike.my...@pcmh.com wrote: I'm looking for some help configuring some storage on an F20 model ESS box. We have just been given a substantial amount of disk space in one of our sharks. The storage had previously been configured as open system storage. Now we want to convert it to S/390 storage and use it for our z/OS system. When I view the storage allocation, I can see that the storage shows up as mostly unassigned (some fragments are unallocated). What I am trying to do is create a few LCUs to which I can assign the space as 3390-9 volumes. However, in the LCU table, only the 4 LCUs that address the S/390 storage presently in the box appear. No table entries appear for un-configured LCUs. I can't find any mechanism that permits me to add an LCU, even though the documentation says that I can have as many as 16 LCUs. Has anyone with experience with shark configuration point me in the right direction? Am I going to have to use the batch configurator to do this? If so, where do I find documentation and how do I access it? Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital -- The contents of this e-mail (and any attachments) are confidential, may be privileged and may contain copyright material. You may only reproduce or distribute material if you are expressly authorized by us to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email (and any attachments) is unauthorized. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and immediately delete this e-mail and any copies of it from your system. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
we don't do dynamic here Out of curiosity, why not? We implemented it as soon as we could, after it came along. As a 7/24, we found another way to reduce IPL. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Customizing TSOPROC
jagadishan perumal wrote: I agree my mistake for not being effective on homework. Thanks for your suggestion. You don't need to apologize, because asking questions is the only way to learn. And only wise guys ask questions, mind you! :-) Ted is a very nice and experienced guy with nearly a thousand years of experience about nearly everything under the sun! :-) And he has very good reasons for his posts. Trust him and ask him for help. IBM-MAIN is followed by persons who have free time to response and are NOT paid to give answers. You only get free (and very basic) advices here... There is a kind guy here who is posting a lot of good posts here every few days. Perhaps he is really too busy to check on posts every few seconds... :-) About training, there is a kind and nice trainer very active on this very IBM- MAIN list. Just ask for training and perhaps he will help you. I will see if I can get you some manuals in IBM's own web-pages to get you starting to get a solution with your questions. I don't have now any access to my favourite system to see what I can do for you. I will research your questions on Friday and come back to you. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Happy 100th Birthday to IBM
Honk Honk Paid my bills for 40 yrs Scott J Ford From: Norman Hollander on DesertWiz norman.hollan...@desertwiz.biz To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 1:20:29 PM Subject: Happy 100th Birthday to IBM Honk if you use computer technology... zNorman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
It takes HOURS for the individual DDMs to be erased. Have you waited the required HOURS? Once the DDMs are erased, they should become visible through the S/390 screen, not until then. I did a session where I took very terse notes on every click and key stroke. Oh, and wait for the boxes to go away and make sure your displays get refreshed before proceeding with the next step. 3. LCU (LOGICAL CONTROL UNITS) THIS IS THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN CHOOSE TO ADD A 8-PACK TO AN EXISTING LOGICAL CONTROL UNIT OR CREATE A NEW LCU REVIEW LIST CLICK ON LINE UNDER SSID WITH BLANKS TO ADD LCU *OR* CLICK ON LINE WITH PAV DISABLED TO ADD PAV CLICK ON CONFIGURE LCU SELECT EMULATION MODE (3390-6) TYPE SUBSYSTEM ID (EXAMPLE A200, A300, A400, ...) SELECT PAV ENABLED SELECT HIGHEST PAV ADDRESS BASED ON NUMBER OF REAL UCBS (NUMBER SHOULD BE AT LEAST 1 PAV PER UCB) CLICK ON PERFORM CONFIGURATION UPDATE 4. DISK GROUP SELECT LINES UNDER STORAGE SUMMARY WITH DISK GROUP AVAILABLE AND WITH A SS ID THAT IS NOT BLANKS CLICK ON CONFIGURE DISK GROUPS SELECT LINES UNDER TRACK FORMAT WITH BLANKS SELECT STORAGE TYPE RAID-5 SELECT TRACK TYPE 3390 (3390 MODE) CLICK ON CONFIGURATION UPDATE 5. ADD VOLUMES (CAUTION: CHANGE, DELETE IS VERY HARD) (18GB 6/8-PACKS = 12 3390-9 + 2058 = 122,275 CYLINDERS) (36GB 6/8-PACKS = 24 3390-9 + 4158 = 244,591 CYLINDERS) (72GB 6/8-PACKS = 48 3390-9 + 8352 = 489,217 CYLINDERS) (72GB 7/8-PACKS = 56 3390-9 + 9727 = 570,735 CYLINDERS) SELECT LINES WITH FREE SPACE HAVING MOVE THAN 0 CYLINDERS AVAILABLE CLICK ON ADD VOLUMES SELECT LINE RAID-5 3390 32760 CYLINDERS IS MOD 27 (29.4 * MOD 1) 10017 CYLINDERS IS MOD 9 (9 * MOD 1) 3339 CYLINDERS IS MOD 3 (3 * MOD 1) PUT IN NUMBER VOLUMES TO ADD CLICK ON ADD TO CHANGE LIST REPEAT FOR MORE VOLUMES AS NEEDED CLICK PERFORM CONFIG UPDATE TO POST NEW VOLUMES (TO DELETE THESE CHANGES, DELETE LCU WHICH WILL DELETE ALL VOLUMES ON THIS LCU) 6. PAV PARALLEL ACCESS VOLUMES SELECT LINES WITH DEVICE COUNTS NOT MATCHING THE BASE AND ALIAS COUNT DESIRED FOR LCU CLICK ON CONFIGURE PAV SELECT VOLUMES MOST CYLINDERS TO LEAST CYLINDERS SELECT UNTIL DESIRED PAV COUNT REACHED OR 1 PER BASE REACHED. CLICK ON PERFORM CONFIGURATION UPDATE. REPEAT IF CHANGES TO PAV COUNT DESIRED. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Mike Myers mike.my...@pcmh.com wrote: Mike: That did get rid of the disk groups and volumes. Thank you very much. Now comes part 2, which is to configure the disk groups as CKD and to assign volumes and PAVs. The one problem I am seeing now is that there still seems to be no mechanism for creating a new LCU. I am only seeing the 4 that were there previously. When I go to try to configure a storage group on the S/390 side, I am told I have to select an LCU from the list provided. I want instead to add 4-6 new LCUs and then assign these storage groups to them. I know that LCUs get defined in the HCD process for the IOCDS and IODF, but to make that a requirement for configuring the shark doesn't make much sense, unless a POR would push those definitions to the shark. It seems much more rational to me that the LCU definitions would be first made in the shark and then connect to the host after a POR. Any ideas? Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital Greenville, NC Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com 6/16/2011 1:02 PM I think they did not delete the volumes on the Open System side. Click on the Storage button on the left. Click on the Open system button at the bottom. You have to go through and set the disk groups back to undefined to delete the volumes / raid arrays. It then takes quite a while to format the volumes. 2 hours for 72GB drives, a little less for smaller drives (but not half the time because they are slower). After the formatting is done, click on the Storage button on the left and you should be able able to see undefined 8-packs. Once you click on an 8 pack on the S/390 side, you can assign it to one of two LCUs. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Mike Myers mike.my...@pcmh.com wrote: I'm looking for some help configuring some storage on an F20 model ESS box. We have just been given a substantial amount of disk space in one of our sharks. The storage had previously been configured as open system storage. Now we want to convert it to S/390 storage and use it for our z/OS system. When I view the storage allocation, I can see that the storage shows up as mostly unassigned (some fragments are unallocated). What I am trying to do is create a few LCUs to which I can assign the space as 3390-9 volumes. However, in the LCU table, only the 4 LCUs that address the S/390 storage presently in the box appear. No table entries appear for un-configured LCUs. I can't find any mechanism that permits me to add an LCU, even though the
Re: Shark configuration
Mike: Many more thanks!!! No, I have not waited hours yet. I asked for a gift of patience, but I got tired of waiting for it. So I will wait the required time and then pick up later. I appreciate your help. Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital Greenville, NC Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com 6/16/2011 3:31 PM It takes HOURS for the individual DDMs to be erased. Have you waited the required HOURS? Once the DDMs are erased, they should become visible through the S/390 screen, not until then. I did a session where I took very terse notes on every click and key stroke. Oh, and wait for the boxes to go away and make sure your displays get refreshed before proceeding with the next step. 3. LCU (LOGICAL CONTROL UNITS) THIS IS THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN CHOOSE TO ADD A 8-PACK TO AN EXISTING LOGICAL CONTROL UNIT OR CREATE A NEW LCU REVIEW LIST CLICK ON LINE UNDER SSID WITH BLANKS TO ADD LCU *OR* CLICK ON LINE WITH PAV DISABLED TO ADD PAV CLICK ON CONFIGURE LCU SELECT EMULATION MODE (3390-6) TYPE SUBSYSTEM ID (EXAMPLE A200, A300, A400, ...) SELECT PAV ENABLED SELECT HIGHEST PAV ADDRESS BASED ON NUMBER OF REAL UCBS (NUMBER SHOULD BE AT LEAST 1 PAV PER UCB) CLICK ON PERFORM CONFIGURATION UPDATE 4. DISK GROUP SELECT LINES UNDER STORAGE SUMMARY WITH DISK GROUP AVAILABLE AND WITH A SS ID THAT IS NOT BLANKS CLICK ON CONFIGURE DISK GROUPS SELECT LINES UNDER TRACK FORMAT WITH BLANKS SELECT STORAGE TYPE RAID-5 SELECT TRACK TYPE 3390 (3390 MODE) CLICK ON CONFIGURATION UPDATE 5. ADD VOLUMES (CAUTION: CHANGE, DELETE IS VERY HARD) (18GB 6/8-PACKS = 12 3390-9 + 2058 = 122,275 CYLINDERS) (36GB 6/8-PACKS = 24 3390-9 + 4158 = 244,591 CYLINDERS) (72GB 6/8-PACKS = 48 3390-9 + 8352 = 489,217 CYLINDERS) (72GB 7/8-PACKS = 56 3390-9 + 9727 = 570,735 CYLINDERS) SELECT LINES WITH FREE SPACE HAVING MOVE THAN 0 CYLINDERS AVAILABLE CLICK ON ADD VOLUMES SELECT LINE RAID-5 3390 32760 CYLINDERS IS MOD 27 (29.4 * MOD 1) 10017 CYLINDERS IS MOD 9 (9 * MOD 1) 3339 CYLINDERS IS MOD 3 (3 * MOD 1) PUT IN NUMBER VOLUMES TO ADD CLICK ON ADD TO CHANGE LIST REPEAT FOR MORE VOLUMES AS NEEDED CLICK PERFORM CONFIG UPDATE TO POST NEW VOLUMES (TO DELETE THESE CHANGES, DELETE LCU WHICH WILL DELETE ALL VOLUMES ON THIS LCU) 6. PAV PARALLEL ACCESS VOLUMES SELECT LINES WITH DEVICE COUNTS NOT MATCHING THE BASE AND ALIAS COUNT DESIRED FOR LCU CLICK ON CONFIGURE PAV SELECT VOLUMES MOST CYLINDERS TO LEAST CYLINDERS SELECT UNTIL DESIRED PAV COUNT REACHED OR 1 PER BASE REACHED. CLICK ON PERFORM CONFIGURATION UPDATE. REPEAT IF CHANGES TO PAV COUNT DESIRED. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Mike Myers mike.my...@pcmh.com wrote: Mike: That did get rid of the disk groups and volumes. Thank you very much. Now comes part 2, which is to configure the disk groups as CKD and to assign volumes and PAVs. The one problem I am seeing now is that there still seems to be no mechanism for creating a new LCU. I am only seeing the 4 that were there previously. When I go to try to configure a storage group on the S/390 side, I am told I have to select an LCU from the list provided. I want instead to add 4-6 new LCUs and then assign these storage groups to them. I know that LCUs get defined in the HCD process for the IOCDS and IODF, but to make that a requirement for configuring the shark doesn't make much sense, unless a POR would push those definitions to the shark. It seems much more rational to me that the LCU definitions would be first made in the shark and then connect to the host after a POR. Any ideas? Mike Myers Pitt County Memorial Hospital Greenville, NC Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com 6/16/2011 1:02 PM I think they did not delete the volumes on the Open System side. Click on the Storage button on the left. Click on the Open system button at the bottom. You have to go through and set the disk groups back to undefined to delete the volumes / raid arrays. It then takes quite a while to format the volumes. 2 hours for 72GB drives, a little less for smaller drives (but not half the time because they are slower). After the formatting is done, click on the Storage button on the left and you should be able able to see undefined 8-packs. Once you click on an 8 pack on the S/390 side, you can assign it to one of two LCUs. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Mike Myers mike.my...@pcmh.com wrote: I'm looking for some help configuring some storage on an F20 model ESS box. We have just been given a substantial amount of disk space in one of our sharks. The storage had previously been configured as open system storage. Now we want to convert it to S/390 storage and use it for our z/OS system. When I view the storage allocation, I can see that the storage shows up as mostly unassigned (some fragments are unallocated).
Re: 1.12 upgrade, required PTFs I missed.
z/OS V1R10.0 MVS Planning Operations SA22-7601-09 z/OS® console support can be operated in one of two modes: shared mode |and distributed mode. | IPL option | IEASYSxx and IPL prompt CON= parameter: | | CON=(...,DISTRIBUTED) to operate in DISTRIBUTED mode | CON=(...,SHARED) to continue to operate in SHARED mode In a future release, the ability to operate in shared mode will be removed. Kenneth Klein John McKown joa...@swbell.net Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 06/14/2011 11:57 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: 1.12 upgrade, required PTFs I missed. never heard of either. where is that specified? On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:18 -0400, Ken Klein wrote: Interesting John, as we are migrating v.10 to v.12 as well. But we are still running con=shared and not con=(distributed,... Did you go to distributed with your consoles? Kenneth Klein kenneth klein tema toyota com John McKown joa...@swbell.net Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 06/13/2011 04:35 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject 1.12 upgrade, required PTFs I missed. Someone asked what PTFs I missed that stopped our 1.10 to 1.12 upgrade. APAR OA32522. PTF ua54267 for 1.12 and ua54265 on 1.10 . I had neither one applied. This is my first sysplex upgrade and I am ignorant. Our test sysplex is a singe image sysplex and my usual tests showed no problems. I really don't much like our basic, 2 image, sysplex. It was forced due to politics. And the programmers still don't have want they argued for: a guaranteed amount of CPU during month end. They used to be in low importance WLM classes in an initiator. Now the initiators in their image are usually all drained to give their CPU to production. The only one who likes it is my manager, for system level testing of z/OS and program products. -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 100th today - a thank you
Pamela Christina wrote: Today we're celebrating IBM's 100th anniversary. Makes me feel young and envious... ;-D Thanks for posting this. Send us some sun here, it is winter here and is getting cool, colder and freezing here... ;-) I like your reporting of the weather... ;-D Be a sunshine and post again here. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
Dale Miller kindly wrote: zMan on 15 June told about two clueless CS PhD's. A few years ago, my friend an I were getting a lot of chuckles out the cluelessness of a CS textbook, but we were reduced to uncontrollable laughter when the author showed an example of doing a payroll using an array, and concluded the exercise with the statement: Of course, in the real world a file might consist of hundreds of records. How many hundreds? 1, thousand, gazillion, 'uncountable many'[1]? :-D John Chase very kindly wrote: What, you haven't seen small files on big computers before? :-) Be a nice sport and define for us 'small file'? ;-D Is it anything bigger than 8 bits (1 byte)? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht [1] - I could not write the mathematical symbol 'lemniscate' (infinity) here... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: An upbeat story
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Dale Miller kindly wrote: zMan on 15 June told about two clueless CS PhD's. A few years ago, my friend an I were getting a lot of chuckles out the cluelessness of a CS textbook, but we were reduced to uncontrollable laughter when the author showed an example of doing a payroll using an array, and concluded the exercise with the statement: Of course, in the real world a file might consist of hundreds of records. How many hundreds? 1, thousand, gazillion, 'uncountable many'[1]? :-D John Chase very kindly wrote: What, you haven't seen small files on big computers before? :-) How about 600,000,000 SSNs for past and current U.S. Citizens, and 200,000,000 each month's contributions or payouts? Be a nice sport and define for us 'small file'? ;-D Is it anything bigger than 8 bits (1 byte)? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht [1] - I could not write the mathematical symbol 'lemniscate' (infinity) here... Tests: (X) () (==) OXO 0X0 oxo 0-0 I don't see a clear drawing of it.. 1/0 might be best. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
Hi Ted, Until fairly recently, we still had some very old equipment with below the line UCBs. Linda - Original Message - From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:17:31 PM Subject: Re: Shark configuration we don't do dynamic here Out of curiosity, why not? We implemented it as soon as we could, after it came along. As a 7/24, we found another way to reduce IPL. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
OK, but that doesn't prevent one from using dynamic. PORs are so last century ;-) On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.netwrote: Hi Ted, Until fairly recently, we still had some very old equipment with below the line UCBs. Linda - Original Message - From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:17:31 PM Subject: Re: Shark configuration we don't do dynamic here Out of curiosity, why not? We implemented it as soon as we could, after it came along. As a 7/24, we found another way to reduce IPL. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UTC offset for dates in the past?
On 6/16/2011 at 10:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:41:31 +1000, Shane Ginnane wrote: Windoze runs in time=local. Yep, you read that right ... Oh, heck. I would be only slightly surprised if even some z/OS sites did that. They do, trust me. I've had to deal with at least one of them. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
Until fairly recently, we still had some very old equipment with below the line UCBs. Our UCBs were below the line, when we implemented dynamic IODF. We did after converting our disk to ESCON. And, that was pressures. IIRC, it was 3990-6. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
Resident San Jose, California... Home of the Sharks... You know, the NHL franchise... Reconfiguration is a must... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Sysplex Enabled z/OS Unix File System Question
I HIGHLY recommend setting romount_recovery=on as per the following link: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r10.e0za100/dfsmroa.htm Otherwise, you can end up in the situation where you're trying to recover a system from a failure and your ZFS filesystems are failing to mount because they can't perform the recovery. Wasted minutes working out why multiple filesystems haven't mounted. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inoperative Path
Since some paths are online, the CHIPID and fiber are working. Do you have cascading FICON switches? That can easily exceed the 256 paths. If you have 4 cables between mainframe and switch, and 4 cables between 2 CPU-fiber-SW1-fiber-SW2-fiber-DASD 4 fiber * 4 fiber * 4 fiber = 64 (all work) 6 fiber * 6 fiber * 6 fiber = 216 (all work) 7 fiber * 7 fiber * 7 fiber = 343 (first 256 paths detected work) 5 fiber * 7 fiber * 7 fiber = 245 (all 256 work) 4 fiber * 8 fiber * 8 fiber = 256 (all 256 work) (since different LPARs could have different CHIPID, the 4 8 8 could be best case) 1 switch usually doesn't have the problem. CPU-fiber-SW1-fiber-DASD 16 fiber * 16 fiber = 256 (all work) On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:46 PM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com wrote: deleted /d m=chp(91) shows : IEE459I 09.09.33 DEVSERV PATHS 740 UNIT DTYPE M CNT VOLSER CHPID=PATH STATUS RTYPE SSID CFW TC DFW PIN DC-STATE CCA DDC ALT CU-TYPE D701,33903 ,A,030,Z18RS2,81=+ 91= 2105 0008 Y YY. YY. N SIMPLEX 01 01 2105 SYMBOL DEFINITIONS A = ALLOCATED + = PATH AVAILABLE = PHYSICALLY UNAVAILABLE -D M=CHP(91) IEE174I 09.10.36 DISPLAY M 174 CHPID 91: TYPE=03, DESC=ESCON POINT TO POINT, ONLINE DEVICE STATUS FOR CHANNEL PATH 91 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F 032 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 033 + + + + + + + + + + + + $ + + + 034 + + + + + $ + + + + + + + + + + 035 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 036 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 037 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 038 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 039 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 03A + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 03B + + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D70 $ $ $ $ $ + + + + $ $ $ $ + + $ D71 * * $ $ $ $ * $ $ * $ $ $ $ $ $ D72 $ + $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ * + * $ $ D73 + $ $ + * $ $ * + $ $ $ $ $ $ $ D74 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + D75 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + D76 + + + + + + + + + + + $ $ $ + + D77 $ $ $ $ + + + $ $ + + * $ $ + $ D78 + + + + $ + + + $ $ $ + $ $ + $ D79 + + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D80 $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ D81 $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ $@ D82 $@ $@ $@ $@ . . . . . . . . . . . . E40 +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ E41 +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ E42 +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ E43 +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ E44 +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ +@ E45 +@ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SWITCH DEVICE NUMBER = NONE PHYSICAL CHANNEL ID = 0171 SYMBOL EXPLANATIONS + ONLINE @ PATH NOT VALIDATED - OFFLINE . DOES NOT EXIST * PHYSICALLY ONLINE $ PATH NOT OPERATIONAL deleted -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
The squawk message about the 3420 type tape drives the last time I tried dynamic is what I remember - it has been a couple of years since the last IODF . We do still have some printers and and a couple of console controllers running on ESCON converters. Linda - Original Message - From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:17:13 PM Subject: Re: Shark configuration Until fairly recently, we still had some very old equipment with below the line UCBs. Our UCBs were below the line, when we implemented dynamic IODF. We did after converting our disk to ESCON. And, that was pressures. IIRC, it was 3990-6. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shark configuration
Some devices can't use dynamic UCBs, and some can't be above the line, but neither of these cases is any reason not to use dynamic reconfiguration. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.netwrote: The squawk message about the 3420 type tape drives the last time I tried dynamic is what I remember - it has been a couple of years since the last IODF . We do still have some printers and and a couple of console controllers running on ESCON converters. Linda - Original Message - From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:17:13 PM Subject: Re: Shark configuration Until fairly recently, we still had some very old equipment with below the line UCBs. Our UCBs were below the line, when we implemented dynamic IODF. We did after converting our disk to ESCON. And, that was pressures. IIRC, it was 3990-6. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Sysplex Enabled z/OS Unix File System Question
On 6/16/2011 1:47 PM, Patrick Loftus wrote: I HIGHLY recommend setting romount_recovery=on as per the following link: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r10.e0za100/dfsmroa.htm Agreed. Of course, this should be the default. :-( -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 100th today - a thank you
On similar vein the birthday is being noted in the new media: http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/technology/1106/gallery.ibm_100/?source=cnn_binhpt=hp_bn3 One of the stories I found interesting. (watch for wrap) On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:43:35 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Pamela Christina wrote: Today we're celebrating IBM's 100th anniversary. Makes me feel young and envious... ;-D Thanks for posting this. Send us some sun here, it is winter here and is getting cool, colder and freezing here... ;-) I like your reporting of the weather... ;-D Be a sunshine and post again here. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CAMLST MACRO question
You might want to consider calling IDCAMS to perform a DELETE. Dan Scott Ford wrote: I have a quick process / CAMLST macro question after readi Hi All: I have a quick process / CAMLST macro question after reading thru the DFHsmsdfp manual. My situation is that I want to find a catalog QSAM file and then delete it..do I assume I do the following in Assembler: 1. CAMLST LOCATE INDAB where INDAB is the CAMLST macro with the dsname and storage area 2. if this macro returns a R15 = 0 , means it was found 3. CAMLST CATALOG REMOVE where REMOVE ponts to CAMLST UNCAT,DSNAME 4 if this macro returns a R15=0 , means it was uncataloged 5. CAMLST SCRATCH ABC where ABC is CAMLST SCRATCH,DSNAME,,VOLIST,,OVRD If this process is correct, how do I know where the dsname 'lives', which volume ? or is that returned in the LOCATE... Any helpful points would be much appreciated. Regards, Scott J Ford -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Sysplex Enabled z/OS Unix File System Question
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:07:21 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 6/16/2011 1:47 PM, Patrick Loftus wrote: I HIGHLY recommend setting romount_recovery=on as per the following link: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp? topic=/com.ibm.zos.r10.e0za100/dfsmroa.htm Agreed. Of course, this should be the default. :-( This is probably a misunderstanding on my part but why would you have a zfs mounted read/write and after a failure mount it read only ? Doug -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
mainframe color-blindness software: a query
I am familiar with the Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop features that permit one to simulate the way a display will look to a color-blind (protanope- or deuteranope-afflicted) viewer, but I don't know of anything analogous to them that is available for screening mainframe-generated displays directly. Have any of you encountered|written such a package? John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Sysplex Enabled z/OS Unix File System Question
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:31:52 -0500, Doug Henry doug_he...@usbank.com wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:07:21 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 6/16/2011 1:47 PM, Patrick Loftus wrote: I HIGHLY recommend setting romount_recovery=on as per the following link: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp? topic=/com.ibm.zos.r10.e0za100/dfsmroa.htm Agreed. Of course, this should be the default. :-( This is probably a misunderstanding on my part but why would you have a zfs mounted read/write and after a failure mount it read only ? You may have had it mounted read/write, but then set it to be mounted read only at IPL via BPXPRMxx. I first ran into this problem when after I migrated to zFS and cloned (logical copy) my SMP/E controlled root (mounted r/w) with FDRCOPY. I thought the HFS=QUIESCE parm applied to zFS and it didn't. It worked most of the time, but one time I guess all the buffers weren't flushed and when I IPLed from the cloned file system the mount failed. Luckily I found out in a sandbox first. I then changed my cloning procedures to add a specific zfsadm quiesce prior to the FDRCOPY of the sysres file systems (z/OS root and other product roots) - and of course an unquiesce after the copy step. Even though probably never need this parm for the MVS root, I specify it because there are other groups (CICS, MQ, DB2, WebSphere) that request my team to add R/O file systems to BPXPRMxx and I know they don't always quiesce SMP/E controlled roots before they copy them for use in production. BTW, DFDSS does the quiesce automatically (for logical copy), but FDR doesn't nor does the HFS=QUIESCE parm work for zFS (see past posts of mine in the archives about this). Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Customizing TSOPROC
Elardus , Danke Schon ! I was able to customize. The changes was just creating a new TSO proc in CPAC.PROCLIB. Creating a new ISPPDF without ISP@MSTR and including only ISPF related CLIST in CPAC.CMDPROC. Now I can make a user to land on to ISPF not in Master application menu. Thanks again, Jags On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: jagadishan perumal wrote: I agree my mistake for not being effective on homework. Thanks for your suggestion. You don't need to apologize, because asking questions is the only way to learn. And only wise guys ask questions, mind you! :-) Ted is a very nice and experienced guy with nearly a thousand years of experience about nearly everything under the sun! :-) And he has very good reasons for his posts. Trust him and ask him for help. IBM-MAIN is followed by persons who have free time to response and are NOT paid to give answers. You only get free (and very basic) advices here... There is a kind guy here who is posting a lot of good posts here every few days. Perhaps he is really too busy to check on posts every few seconds... :-) About training, there is a kind and nice trainer very active on this very IBM- MAIN list. Just ask for training and perhaps he will help you. I will see if I can get you some manuals in IBM's own web-pages to get you starting to get a solution with your questions. I don't have now any access to my favourite system to see what I can do for you. I will research your questions on Friday and come back to you. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UTC offset for dates in the past?
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:04:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Sauce for the goose. In the recent DCBE thread, several contributors (particularly IBM employees) lauded z/OS for steadfastly maintaining compatibility with previous incorrect behavior. Apply the same standard when judging Windows and z/OS. On the matter of misguided compatibility, the relevant analogy is that it's best to peel the adhesive tape briskly; it hurts worse if you hesitate. The Twinsun page avers that Cygwin uses the zoneinfo data base; I only hope correctly; I haven't tried it. Got to Cygwin. Looked at timestamps for a file from last February, mounted via Samba from a Solaris server. Cygwin shows the timestamp correct; 7 hour offset from UTC. Windows Exploder shows it an hour off. Does Samba reflect the timestamp in UTC and Windows corrupts it? There's a parallel disagreement for a native Windows file. But I have no audit trail to determine which is correct. Hmmm. I created one with touch(1) from Cygwin. Windows shows timestamp an hour off. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
