Re: SNA name of the CPC

2011-09-02 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

On 9/1/2011 10:05 PM, Steve Warren wrote:

If you have z/OS BCPii installed on your system, you can code HWILIST 
ListType=HWI_LIST_LOCALCPC in a simple authorized application to get the SNA 
name of the CPC you are running on.  To get a list of all CPCs that are 
connected to your CPC, simply do a ListType = HWI_LIST_CPCS and you will 
receive the SNA names for every CPC.

Steve Warren
z/OS BCPii Design and Development

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Hi Steve

(I have got a link to your  BCPii presentation)
I can't start HWI address space, got a security setup message(HWI014I) , 
and to define the HWI for

RACF I would need the SNA name.
Now I have it , but I have to reboot the HMC , and seems I can do only 
locally, not via browser interface.


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Re: Is there a reason to set S99CNENQ in dynamic allocation?

2011-09-02 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Hi,

I have no answer to your question.
However, this newsgroup is a mirror of a listserver and that is where
the majority of the z/OS experts read the posts. See the information
attached automatically.

Kees.


hobbitt druidl...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:4084b66b-2ec2-4ca2-beca-6e6d9f6da37f@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroup
s.com...
Hi, everyone.  We have an ancient assembler application that issues
DYNALLOC.  The parameter list it passes has the S99CNENQ flag set
(conditional SYSZTIOT ENQ).  Occasionally we will get RC=4 RSN=0254 from
the DYNALLOC request, which says the ENQ failed.  The suggested action
is to wait a bit and retry (which this application does not) or to
remove the flag.

The module is probably 20 years old and as you might guess there are no
extant implementation or design notes for it.

This is a pretty bog-standard use of DYNALLOC, no weird environments.  I
lean toward removing the flag, but I'd like to have an idea why you
might set this flag to start with; the Auth Assembler Manual doesn't say
much about it.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Dumps with no useful memory

2011-09-02 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote in message
news:of2c17f9fe.d50c79f6-on852578fe.006b1dee-852578fe.006d1...@us.ibm.c
om...
  Talking about 'incomplete dumps' triggered me: I currently have a
  problem outstanding with IBM, where they also complain that my dump
is
  incomplete. Investigating the cause showed that we did an IPCS
COPYDUMP
  from the original dump dataset to a GDG and that GDG dump was
  incomplete. IPCS COPYDUMP issued message 2 extraneous records not
  copied. IBM is now investigating wheter this could be the cause of
the
  'incomplete dump'.
  
  Kees. 
 
   I have looked at the dump in question.  It was complete,
 and the COPYDUMP copy was also complete.  The data which 
 IBM thought was missing was actually not requested to be dumped. 
 
 
 Jim Mulder   z/OS Dump Whisperer  IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY
 

Thanks Jim. 
I did not see an update in my PMR with this information yet, can you
inform the people investigating this?

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Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-09-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6533006138111618.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
09/01/2011
   at 09:40 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

About half.

For large values of half.  

IEBUPDTE will load a PDS

IEBUPDTE input has been used as a distibution medium for source code
for decades, but it is *not* a PDS load utility and it is not possible
to construct an IEBUPDTE input stream to build an arbitrary PDS, even
an arbitrary RECFM=FB,LRECL=80 PDS.

Next, I'd like to see TRANSMIT and RECEIVE liberated from TSO so I
could use them in EXECs, perhaps even under OMVS.

Does address TSO XMIT work in a Unix session?
 
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Re: adding a user to TSO..HELP

2011-09-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 110654F1DB9042739C92C69EEACB9306@bernard9161cc2, on 09/01/2011
   at 09:50 PM, bernardhines bernardhi...@comcast.net said:

Rick does the 7 character limit still hold in? 

There are TSO control blocks with 7 byte fields for userid and for
prefix. It can be done, but it won't happen unless they see a business
case for it.
 
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Re: Is there a reason to set S99CNENQ in dynamic allocation?

2011-09-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1eef...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net,
on 09/02/2011
   at 09:47 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said:

Occasionally we will get RC=4 RSN=0254 from the DYNALLOC request,
which says the ENQ failed.  The suggested action is to wait a bit 
and retry (which this application does not)

And yet you write

This is a pretty bog-standard use of DYNALLOC, 

It's a supported use, it's hardly standard to ignore the documented
suggestion.

I lean toward removing the flag,

You obviously have a multitasking application. What are the
consequences of an extended delay during DYNALLOC?

but I'd like to have an idea why you
might set this flag to start with;

You set the flag when you can't afford to wait. The important question
is why the application isn't using the flag properly, e.g., retrying
periodically.
 
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Re: IBM-MAIN INFO

2011-09-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
 
 John Eels' problem _ nessage This server does not have any file by the
name IBM-
 MAIN INFO  was experienced by me a couple of weeks ago.
 I mentioned it in a note to the IBM-MAIN group, but got no response.
 John is not alone - I just tried it again with the same error. Perhaps a
note to Darren
 would be in order.
 Dale Miller



The key is using INFO IBM-MAIN rather than IBM-MAIN INFO

Lizette

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Re: zFS files and SMS setup

2011-09-02 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-09-01 22:22, Staller, Allan pisze:

Your welcome,

Check the manual reference in my prior response. That is the book on
ZFS.


I should RTFM, but I'll ask:
1. Can ZFS LDS be striped?
2. Can ZFS LDS be extent-infinite (a VSAM feature which arrived with 
z/OS 1.7)?
3. Are there any constraints for ROOT ZFS, i.e. non-EAS (upper part of 
EAV volume), etc?


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Re: zFS files and SMS setup

2011-09-02 Thread Staller, Allan
1) Don't Know. I've never had a need to investigate.
2) Don't Know. My ZFS's have all been 1 volume (3390-3) or less.
3) Don't Know. I've never had an EAV volume to worry about.

A ZFS is just a linear VSAM dataset (to MVS). The only difference is the
method of accessing the data by Unix System Services.
AFAIK, anything that can be done to a non-ZFS linear VSAM dataset can
also be done to a ZFS.

snip
I should RTFM, but I'll ask:
1. Can ZFS LDS be striped?
2. Can ZFS LDS be extent-infinite (a VSAM feature which arrived with 
z/OS 1.7)?
3. Are there any constraints for ROOT ZFS, i.e. non-EAS (upper part of

EAV volume), etc?
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why did i just need to sign in to gmail, just to view ibm-main? is it proprietary now?

2011-09-02 Thread Chris Mason
This query appeared only in Google Groups and not in the IBM-MAIN archive.

post

Geo

Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 23:06:05 -0700 (PDT)

why did i just need to sign in to gmail, just to view ibm-main? is it 
proprietary now?

/post

Geo

I'm not sure I understand what your problem is.

I access IBM-MAIN by checking the archives when I want to get up-to-date. I 
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The URL I use to access the archives is the following:

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This presents a list of months.

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- If I use Internet Explorer, I get into the relatively recently introduced 
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- If I use Firefox, I get asked to log in using an e-mail address and 
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Incidentally I've forgotten how I set up receiving the Google Groups digests. I 
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-

What has been an interesting challenge is to construct your e-mail address!

Google Groups offers me the following:

geol...@gmail.com

and don't try to get any further because Google will just add insult to injury!

But, but, but, obscurity has two faces!

If you now try to search for the Subject line - rather a long one this time, 
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http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/bit.listserv.ibm-main/2011-09/msg00085.html

The way this service operates when wanting to keep e-mail addresses away from 
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geolewi@x

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INFO IBM-MAIN

2011-09-02 Thread Roberto Halais
INFO IBM-MAIN

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Re: ISMF QUESTION

2011-09-02 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
I checked the dsns, and they all have Management Classes assigned to them.  
Thanks 

From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 3:15:49 PM
Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTION

 
 I did exactly what you suggested however I do not receive any error
message as you
 had described.  The MC Name line still has --.


Is it possible that when the dataset was created it did not have an Mgmtclas
assigned?

To test it, create a similar file that will go through your ACS code the
same way.  Then go into ISMF and see if the mgmtclass is defined.

Lizette

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Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-09-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:33:50 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

IEBUPDTE input has been used as a distibution medium for source code
for decades, but it is *not* a PDS load utility and it is not possible
to construct an IEBUPDTE input stream to build an arbitrary PDS, even
an arbitrary RECFM=FB,LRECL=80 PDS.
 
Agreed.  Arbitrary is the key word here.

Does address TSO XMIT work in a Unix session?

I believe TRANSMIT works; RECEIVE doesn't because I've never been
able to reply to the prompt.  (IIRC; haven't tried recently.)  I could
probably do address TSO EXEC some EXEC that stacks the reply
then issues the RECEIVE command.  But that's unpleasantly
convoluted.

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Re: IBM-MAIN INFO

2011-09-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:37:18 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote:

The key is using INFO IBM-MAIN rather than IBM-MAIN INFO

I don't think so.  Sending GET INFO IBM-MAIN results in:

This server does not have any file by the name INFO IBM-MAIN.

And sending just INFO IBM-MAIN results in:

There is no information file for the IBM-MAIN list

Regardless, the message at the end of every email says to use
GET IBM-MAIN INFO

This seems to be something that Darren needs to fix.
Ed F says that he already let Darren know.

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Pax/Unpax Question

2011-09-02 Thread Bob Shannon
Posting for a colleague:


I am attempting to pax/unpax an HFS but cannot keep owner/group settings, they 
change to mine in the target HFS.



This is what I am using:

pax -pe -x os390 -wzf //'MVS.pax.dataset.Z' .

pax -pe -x os390 -rf  //'MVS.pax.dataset.Z' .



Can anybody point me to an example to preserve ownership and other settings 
when pax/unpax'ing?

TIA



Bob Shannon

Rocket Software



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z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa

2011-09-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld
There are 2 z/OS Systems Programmer jobs open working for IBM in Dubuque, Iowa. 
 You can apply using the web site at the following location:

  https://jobs3.netmedia1.com/cp/find.ibm.jobs/location/USA/IA/

Click on Dubuque.  You probably have to register to actually apply, but you can 
look at the postings without registering.  If you have any questions, email me. 
 I check my IBM-Main email 3 or 4 times a day.

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Re: Pax/Unpax Question

2011-09-02 Thread McKown, John
You can only preserve the attributes such as owner and group if the id doing 
the unwind operation has super user privileges. I know that UID==0 can do it. 

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/BPXZA590/SHCMDDES.PAX.6
quote
On the z/OS system, superuser privileges or read access to the appropriate 
FACILITY class resources are required to create character special files, 
restore user and group names, and to set certain extended attributes (read 
access to the corresponding FACILITY class resources). 
/quote

It doesn't say which. I would guess BPX.SUPERUSER. If nothing else, with 
BPX.SUPERUSER, the person can do a:

su -

to which to UID==0 followed by the pax -rf -pe, then back to normal via exit.

su -
pe -pe -rvf ...
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 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon
 Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:26 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Pax/Unpax Question
 
 Posting for a colleague:
 
 
 I am attempting to pax/unpax an HFS but cannot keep 
 owner/group settings, they change to mine in the target HFS.
 
 
 
 This is what I am using:
 
 pax -pe -x os390 -wzf //'MVS.pax.dataset.Z' .
 
 pax -pe -x os390 -rf  //'MVS.pax.dataset.Z' .
 
 
 
 Can anybody point me to an example to preserve ownership and 
 other settings when pax/unpax'ing?
 
 TIA
 
 
 
 Bob Shannon
 
 Rocket Software
 
 
 
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Re: SNA name of the CPC

2011-09-02 Thread Steve Warren
A couple of points to bring out.

1) You can start BCPii without knowing the SNA name of the CPC.  If you didn't 
know it, you could make a temporary generic profile in the security product 
that would allow the SNMP community name defined in BCPii to be the same for 
all CPCs that BCPii would attempt to commmunicate with.  As long as you have 
the right community name for the local CPC, the address space would come up.   
For example, RDEF FACILITY HWI.TARGET.** UACC(NONE) APPLDATA('commname').   
Once the address space comes up, a simple HWILIST HWI_LIST_LOCALCPC call could 
allow you to learn the SNA name.  Then you could either modify or delete the 
generic profile you created above and change it to be the specific local CPC 
name.

2) Regarding rebooting the SE, you are correct.   There are some changes that 
require the SE to be rebooted and I don't know of any way to do that other than 
being at the physical machine.  Wish I had an easier answer for you  regarding 
this.

Good luck!

Steve Warren
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Re: IBM-MAIN INFO

2011-09-02 Thread Walt Farrell
Lizette meant that the proper command is INFO IBM-MAIN not GET IBM-MAIN 
INFO as the footer of messages from IBM-MAIN indicates. Yes, I think this is 
something Darren or someone else at bama needs to fix (unless it's something 
the folks who provide the Listserv software need to fix).

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Re: Pax/Unpax Question

2011-09-02 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
In case you want to be more granular: 
SUPERUSER.FILESYS.CHOWN -- lets you CHOWN the owner of any file, not just ones 
you own.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
McKown, John
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:43 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Pax/Unpax Question

You can only preserve the attributes such as owner and group if the id doing 
the unwind operation has super user privileges. I know that UID==0 can do it. 

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/BPXZA590/SHCMDDES.PAX.6
quote
On the z/OS system, superuser privileges or read access to the appropriate 
FACILITY class resources are required to create character special files, 
restore user and group names, and to set certain extended attributes (read 
access to the corresponding FACILITY class resources). 
/quote

It doesn't say which. I would guess BPX.SUPERUSER. If nothing else, with 
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su -

to which to UID==0 followed by the pax -rf -pe, then back to normal via exit.

su -
pe -pe -rvf ...
exit

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 I am attempting to pax/unpax an HFS but cannot keep owner/group 
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 This is what I am using:
 
 pax -pe -x os390 -wzf //'MVS.pax.dataset.Z' .
 
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Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa

2011-09-02 Thread Ed Gould
Eric:

I passed this info on to a friend who is currently seeking a job. The quote I 
got back (I xxx'd) out some information that is personal).


I actually went there for an interview just prior to interviewing here in .
It's a sweat shop.  Someone I know when there and took almost a 50% pay cut.


Ed




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There are 2 z/OS Systems Programmer jobs open working for IBM in Dubuque, 
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  https://jobs3.netmedia1.com/cp/find.ibm.jobs/location/USA/IA/

Click on Dubuque.  You probably have to register to actually apply, but you can 
look at the postings without registering.  If you have any questions, email 
me.  I check my IBM-Main email 3 or 4 times a day.

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Re: why did i just need to sign in to gmail, just to view ibm-main? is it proprietary now?

2011-09-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Chris Mason wrote:

The URL I use to access the archives is the following:
http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Presumably cookies are at work here.

Tough cookie! Cookies are NEEDED if you wish that your browsing session is not 
to expire during your browsing session. After expiring, you need to re-type in 
you id and password. 

Cookies are also needed if you have specific preferences for your browsing 
sessions and other subscription settings. 

See 'Preferences' in the right top corner of your web-page.

Groete / Greetings
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IBM-MAIN INFO

2011-09-02 Thread john gilmore
Lizette and Walt have made the necessary points.  It is clear that the IBM-MAIN 
message-footer text needs amendment, and this is easy to accomplish.
 
Still, . . .
 
If this confusion had arisen on the LSERV-managed Italian-language EGITTOLOGIA 
list to which I subscribe, I should have been more forgiving; egyptologists, 
mostly Italian-speaking ones, cannot reasonably be expected to know muich about 
command-language processing software; but we presumably are computer 
professionals.  INFO, SUBSCRIBE, etc. are [English-language] LSERV command 
keywords, usable wherever LSERV software is in use; and anyone, of us a least, 
who uses a list like this one should be familiar with the rudiments of how it 
is managed.

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Re: IBM-MAIN INFO

2011-09-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
john gilmore wrote:

Lizette and Walt have made the necessary points.

Agreed, but see below my comment ...

INFO, SUBSCRIBE, etc. are [English-language] LSERV command keywords, usable 
wherever LSERV software is in use; and anyone, of us a least, who uses a list 
like this one should be familiar with the rudiments of how it is managed.

I used them in the past without problems and I tried them out here again to see.

There IS a problem there regarding acceptance of commands by the LSERV software.

Groete / Greetngs
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Re: why did i just need to sign in to gmail, just to view ibm-main? is it proprietary now?

2011-09-02 Thread Chris Mason
Elardus

On the new IBM-MAIN web page with which I am presented, I see a Preferences 
prompt - the first time it has been brought to my attention - some way down 
the right-hand side - hardly the top corner!

Selecting it I find a Login Cookie Expiration prompt and I discover that, 
among the values available, I have somehow managed to set/inherit No 
Expiration. Note that this is the first time I have had anything whatsoever to 
do with this whole Preferences page.

The point about my mentioning cookies in the previous post is that, whatever 
cookie has logged that I have entered an e-mail address and password to 
Internet Explorer, is unprepared to grant the same access privileges to 
Firefox. That's the mystery - although to say I was losing sleep over it would 
be an exaggeration!

Chris Mason

On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:39:10 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

Chris Mason wrote:

The URL I use to access the archives is the following:
http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Presumably cookies are at work here.

Tough cookie! Cookies are NEEDED if you wish that your browsing session is not 
to expire during your browsing session. After expiring, you need to re-type in 
you id and password.

Cookies are also needed if you have specific preferences for your browsing 
sessions and other subscription settings.

See 'Preferences' in the right top corner of your web-page.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: IBM-MAIN INFO

2011-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The key is using INFO IBM-MAIN rather than IBM-MAIN INFO


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Not according to the auto-footer.
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Re: IBM-MAIN INFO

2011-09-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
The key is using INFO IBM-MAIN rather than IBM-MAIN INFO


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Not according to the auto-footer.
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Yes we know, Ted.  We need to get Darren to change the footer to to INFO 
IBM-MAIN and not have GET IBM-MAIN INFO.

Lizette

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Re: IBM-MAIN INFO

2011-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Yes we know, Ted.  We need to get Darren to change the footer to INFO IBM-MAIN 
and not have GET IBM-MAIN INFO.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound pedantic.
I haven't had to use the functions for years.
Even NOMAIL, since I use a BlackBerry, as I always have access.
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Re: why did i just need to sign in to gmail, just to view ibm-main? is it proprietary now?

2011-09-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Chris Mason wrote:

On the new IBM-MAIN web page with which I am presented, I see a Preferences 
prompt - the first time it has been brought to my attention - some way down 
the right-hand side - hardly the top corner!

There are TWO places for 'Preferences':

1. The banner part with the word LISTSERV on the left and on the right the 
'Prefences' and 'Log Out' clickable phrases.
2. In the right part of the page, under Options, which you have observed.

Some web pages are really somewhat difficult to navigate unless you took time 
to read everything.

The point about my mentioning cookies in the previous post is that, whatever 
cookie has logged that I have entered an e-mail address and password to 
Internet Explorer, is unprepared to grant the same access privileges to 
Firefox. 

Agreed. Not everyone is prepared to surrend his/her PC/Laptop to a web server, 
by way of speaking.

That's the mystery - although to say I was losing sleep over it would be an 
exaggeration!

hehehehe... sleep tigh on this one! :-D

Groete / Greetings
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Re: IBM-MAIN INFO

2011-09-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:04:40 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote:

We need to get Darren to change the footer to to INFO IBM-MAIN and not have 
GET IBM-MAIN INFO.

And to put the information file on the server.  INFO IBM-MAIN returns only the 
list header.

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Re: why did i just need to sign in to gmail, just to view ibm-main? is it proprietary now?

2011-09-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
Strangely enough, my use of IBM-MAIN has not needed to change for years. Of 
course I am subscribed directly to the list and receive each message.

No need to adapt to changes gratuitous or otherwise to any fancy webby 
interface :)

Dave Gibney
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Re: SNA name of the CPC

2011-09-02 Thread Roy Hewitt
You can reboot the SE remotely, I did this last week on one of our z10s. You just need to use the 
Reboot SE option from the HMC. If you try to reboot from a single object session you get the message 
cannot be done remotely.


Also you can easily find the SNA names of all CPCs on the same HMC network from within HCD.. option 
2.11 springs to mind.


Cheers

Roy
Steve Warren wrote:

A couple of points to bring out.

1) You can start BCPii without knowing the SNA name of the CPC.  If you didn't 
know it, you could make a temporary generic profile in the security product 
that would allow the SNMP community name defined in BCPii to be the same for 
all CPCs that BCPii would attempt to commmunicate with.  As long as you have 
the right community name for the local CPC, the address space would come up.   
For example, RDEF FACILITY HWI.TARGET.** UACC(NONE) APPLDATA('commname').   
Once the address space comes up, a simple HWILIST HWI_LIST_LOCALCPC call could 
allow you to learn the SNA name.  Then you could either modify or delete the 
generic profile you created above and change it to be the specific local CPC 
name.

2) Regarding rebooting the SE, you are correct.   There are some changes that 
require the SE to be rebooted and I don't know of any way to do that other than 
being at the physical machine.  Wish I had an easier answer for you  regarding 
this.

Good luck!

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Re: why did i just need to sign in to gmail, just to view ibm-main? is it proprietary now?

2011-09-02 Thread Walt Farrell
Given that the OP's question did not appear on the mailing list, it was 
presumably posted via Google Groups. And I believe that Google Groups will 
periodically have you sign in again; at least Google Reader does that.

As regards cookies, they are specific to the browser you're using when the site 
sets them, and it's possible that you've configured Firefox not to remember 
them.

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Re: why did i just need to sign in to gmail, just to view ibm-main? is it proprietary now?

2011-09-02 Thread Chris Mason
Walt

This started as the smallest of all possible molehills and the mountain it has 
become appears still to be growing!!!

 Given that the OP's question did not appear on the mailing list, it was 
 presumably posted via Google Groups.

Indeed that fact that the post appeared in the Google Groups digest and could 
be accessed by following the URL in the Google Groups digest:

http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/browse_thread/thread/182289280036bbe9?hl=en

but did *not* appear in the regular archive which I use as my normal means to 
access IBM-MAIN does bear out this presumption.

In case there is any doubt over the matter, I am *not* - repeat *not* - 
actually myself personally asking for any help whatsoever at all. I am merely 
trying to assist poor Geo in the matter of presenting posts in IBM-MAIN 
should he - or she - want to and have them seen by the IBM-MAIN community. I do 
hope that is now abundantly clear for insert your own favourite phrase for 
this sort of circumstance!

 And I believe that Google Groups will periodically have you sign in again; at 
 least Google Reader does that.

I deal with this sort of post from time to time - out of what I try to imagine 
is the goodness of my heart - others may have another opinion, but I am not 
aware of any sign-in requirements for Google Groups and cannot recall ever 
being asked for any, let alone periodically enter any. Now if I ever actually 
wanted to post using Google Groups that may be another matter.

... ... just to view ibm-main? ...

But note that the OP was talking about viewing.

 As regards cookies, they are specific to the browser you're using when the 
 site sets them, and it's possible that you've configured Firefox not to 
 remember them.

I mentioned different experiences regarding browsers as a way of divining that 
cookies were involved in case that just might contribute to a resolution of 
the OP's problem. Paraphrasing the UK politician who got a reputation as the 
Prince of Darkness, I am entirely relaxed about not being able to use 
Firefox for the purposes of accessing the IBM-MAIN archive.

Chris Mason

On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:51:59 -0500, Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com wrote:

Given that the OP's question did not appear on the mailing list, it was 
presumably posted via Google Groups. And I believe that Google Groups will 
periodically have you sign in again; at least Google Reader does that.

As regards cookies, they are specific to the browser you're using when the 
site sets them, and it's possible that you've configured Firefox not to 
remember them.

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Re: adding a user to TSO..HELP

2011-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
As far as I know, yes. It's not a question of the security software but 
rather a limitqation imposed by TSO.


Rick
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I am having a heck of a time adding a user to tso.
I have my notes and I have a help page up but to no avail.
Here is what I am doing and the failed results:
add (test1ljm * * ikjaccnt) jcl oper noacct size(4098)  
IKJ56702I INVALID NODELIST-USERID, TEST1LJM
IKJ56703A REENTER THIS OPERAND -   


I have looked the messages up and they are no help.


   


unsnip

Based on the command you're using, I'd say you're adding this user to 
SYS1.UADS. In that case, a USERID longer than 7 characters is illegal.


You really should be using the AU (ADDUSER) command of RACF, still 
limiting the USERID to 7 characters. Dare I say Time to crack a RACF 
manual??


Rick

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