Re: What is a PC Call?

2012-05-31 Thread Bob Shannon
The presentation was done 14 years ago. Please check the current publications 
to insure accuracy.

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Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-07 Thread Bob Shannon
I asked for some of you ESP people who gave the initial feedback (or anyone 
else) for your real life numbers as to what you considered clutter.  I 
haven't seen any responses yet.  See the last paragraph of this post:

Well, I agree with Mark. I think it's helpful, particularly as we have a lot of 
people who aren't that familiar with z/OS, and the cost is minimal. 

We installed 1.13 in production (such as it is here) in October 2011, and had 
an early version running 10-11 months before that.

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Re: Java PTF Packaging Error Deletes the Java SDK With RC=0! (See APAR IV05507)

2012-05-02 Thread Bob Shannon
I'm not saying you, Ed or anyone else shouldn't install Java using
SMP/E.   I'm just saying I personally don't see a benefit. 

We support all of the supported Java versions and addressing modes. We just 
download the code from IBM and don't bother installing with SMPE. For 
everything else I'm a believer in SMPE, but for Java in our environment it 
isn't worth the effort

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Re: Have you ever done this using FTP?

2012-04-27 Thread Bob Shannon
lcd 'local pdsname'
cd 'foreign pdsname'
MPUT *

This works for text.

 I typically either use TRSMAIN, TSO XMIT, or DFDSS to dump the PDS to a seq 
 file, then do the FTP.

If it is, use the technique above as described by Lizette Koehler.

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Re: Have you ever done this using FTP?

2012-04-27 Thread Bob Shannon
 TRSMAIN is still available AFAIK.

TRSMAIN is an alias of AMATERSE.   

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Re: Why does Enterprise COBOL V4.1 optimization complain about a PERFORM loop?

2012-04-23 Thread Bob Shannon
 Can anyone explain to me why I get Enterprise COBOL V4.1 informational 
 message IGYOP3094-W in the do-nothing program listed below?

I haven't written in COBOL in over 30 years, but I suspect it's because 
SUB-PARA-2 sits in between SUB-PARA-1 and PARA-EXIT.

44SUB-PARA-1.   
 
  45IF WS-SUB  6   
   
  46  1MOVE 0 TO WS-SUB 
   
  47  1GO TO PARA-EXIT. 
   
  48
   
  49SUB-PARA-2. 
   
  50DISPLAY WS-SUB. 
   
  51
   
  52PARA-EXIT.  
   
  53EXIT.   

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Re: DESERV for HFS Folders?

2012-04-20 Thread Bob Shannon
 I need to be able to process for input all members of a PDS, PDSE, or 
 HFS folder.

Refer to UNIX System Services File System Interface Reference SA22-7808.

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Re: Modernizing the BCP code ?

2012-04-13 Thread Bob Shannon
 What us users of z/Pdt ?

Well, everything I know came from the SOD. I have no inside information. Having 
said that I can't imagine IBM not supporting 2.1 on a zPDT. Send a note to Bill 
Ogden for a definitive answer.

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Re: z/OS every two years (Official announcment)

2012-04-12 Thread Bob Shannon
 Bookreader? Really??

Like a number of other people, I prefer PDF when printing and Bookmanager when 
searching. The elimination of Bookmanager is unfortunate but not surprising.

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Re: Modernizing the BCP code ?

2012-04-12 Thread Bob Shannon
 and seems to me the code is  not very modern

First, there are structures in the BCP code that are 40 years old. They haven't 
changed and are extremely difficult to change. 

Second, z/OS 1.13 will IPL on a z900/z800. This means the BCP can only use 
instructions supported by those processors.

Third, according to yesterday's SOD, z/OS 2.1 requires at least a z9 processor. 
This implies the BCP in 2.1 can use instructions introduced on those processors.

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Re: Modernizing the BCP code ?

2012-04-12 Thread Bob Shannon
 What about folks not running  Z9 for z/os 2.1 ?

2.1 requires an architectural level set.

If you are running a z9 or higher (i.e., z10, z196 or z114), then you will be 
fine.

If you are running a processor prior to a z9 (i.e., z800/z900, z890/z990) then 
you need a new processor if you want to run 2.1. Of course, with the extended 
support periods there is certainly need to rush into this.


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Re: Modernizing the BCP code ?

2012-04-12 Thread Bob Shannon
 So, I suspect it was political decision whether to support z/990 and z9.

I think supporting the older processors this long was a marketing decision. 
Sooner or later they had to drop off and now they have. zVM V6 requires a z10 
processor or higher, so it's somewhat surprising that z9s are still supported 
by z/OS 2.1.

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Re: Modernizing the BCP code ?

2012-04-12 Thread Bob Shannon
 Yes, but z/VM 5.4 is still supported and marketed.

zVM 5.4 was withdrawn from marketing December 12, 2011. It goes out of service 
September 20, 2013.

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Re: z/os every two years

2012-03-28 Thread Bob Shannon
 A good guess, but until there's an official notification I can't plan on 
 supposition.

Then you will be wrong. In this case plan on supposition.

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Re: z/os every two years

2012-03-28 Thread Bob Shannon
I attended SHARE. I looked at the positions the speakers have at IBM and 
concluded it's a done deal. Too much horsepower to be sending the wrong message.

Bob

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Methinks you have inside information :-)


On 03/28/12 07:58, Bob Shannon wrote:
 A good guess, but until there's an official notification I can't plan on 
 supposition.
  
 Then you will be wrong. In this case plan on supposition.

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Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-09 Thread Bob Shannon
Q1) Any idea why TSOLIB ACTIVATE DDNAME(IPCSLIBS) appears to work at z/OS 
1.11 but not at 1.13?

No idea.

Q2) Am I wasting my time here. Should the latest version of IPCS work with all 
older dumps?

No, what you are trying to do is necessary. IPCS is not backwards compatible.

Q3) If the answer to 2) is no then how do other people do this?

We copy the IPCS stuff to datasets with a different HLQ. As a vendor we receive 
dumps from a lot of back level systems so we keep the IPCS datasets forever.

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Re: LAE instruction

2012-03-07 Thread Bob Shannon
 I don't know why the OP had difficulty finding that information.

One has to look first.

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Re: IBM Announcement Letters

2012-03-06 Thread Bob Shannon
I received an announcement letter this morning, but it was almost content free.

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Re: Program FLIH backdoor - This is a criminal breach of security!

2012-03-05 Thread Bob Shannon
I wrote an SE hardware emulator that would run on Ups, APs, and MPs and while 
you got a 15% performance increase with the hardware upgrade and MVS/SE we 
still got around 12% with my PCFLIH hardware emulator and we were able to 
move to MVS/SE 3 years sooner that we could have had we all had to wait until 
all the 168s were replaced.

That's exactly what Amdahl's SE and SP Assist did. 

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Re: where do you store your tcpip configs

2012-02-27 Thread Bob Shannon
On Sysplexed systems we use sysplex.tcpparms. On standalone systems we use 
sysid.tcpparms.

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Re: Hiper Dispatching

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Shannon
 Does anyone know if turning on Hiper Dispatching on a single book box machine 
 would make a difference in performance?

The answer is yes, but I believe with your configuration the answer is no. 
Hiper Dispatch tries to dispatch the work on a subset of logical processors. 
Since you only have 4 CPs those are the only ones you can be dispatched on 
anyway so you get the effect of Hiper Dispatch by default.
 
If you had more processors you'd see a benefit in using Hiper Dispatch. OTOH it 
probably won't hurt to turn it on to try it.

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Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-13 Thread Bob Shannon
 One of my favorite SHARE sessions was in San Diego 2007 when Jan Green 
 presented 
Space Shuttle Usage of z/OS.

That was a really good session. I shared it with my then boss who had been a 
NASA flight controller.

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Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-09 Thread Bob Shannon
I do not. Sorry. Check the past SHARE Proceedings, particularly for Kath 
Walsh's sessions. Although I know of nothing specific, she has talked about 
topics such as this in the past.

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Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-08 Thread Bob Shannon
Our workload is entirely for development. Since we can't predict where demand 
will come from we share all of the CPs so that capacity will float to where 
it's needed. One disadvantage is that this is bad for the cache(s). In our 
environment the cost is acceptable. I wouldn't do this if we ran a production 
workload.

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Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-08 Thread Bob Shannon
 Why would this be bad for cache?

Since multiple LPAR are isong the CP, because multiple LPARs are causing cache 
updates. If you have production LPARs it's best to limit cache updates to a 
single LPAR so that your cache hit ratio will be better. Dedicating CPs will do 
that. 

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Re: Very Lage Page Datasets (was ASM and HiperPAV)

2012-02-03 Thread Bob Shannon
 At around 50%, SVC dump will fail with 'ASM shortage'.

I think at some point, maybe 1.13, AUXMGMT=YES became the default which 
prevented taking dumps at a lower aux storage percentage. You can return to the 
previous default threshold by issuing this command:

CD SET,SDUMP,AUXMGMT=OFF

Reference OA30726

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Re: C program and LE/IMS option

2012-02-03 Thread Bob Shannon
 I am delighted to learn that SPC is alive and apparently not even moribund.

I believe SPC has been stabilized, officially or unofficially, for a long time. 
Metal C seems to be the intended replacement. 

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Re: IBM Research z196 Papers

2012-01-31 Thread Bob Shannon
Charging for the Research Journal publication is one of the worst decisions IBM 
has made. Maybe AD Cycle was worse, but that's debatable. Think about it. They 
decided to write great articles about their state of the art technology, and 
then insured that many people who want to read the articles cannot. Talk about 
penny wise pound foolish.

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Re: ISPF Workstation Agent for Windows 7?

2012-01-27 Thread Bob Shannon
 z/OSMF is the way to go if you really want multiple windows in the same ISPF 
 session.

I respect Tom's opinion, but IMO the z/OSMF interface, while clever, is a 
kludge. Each window requires a separate TSO session. Five windows requires 
five TSO sessions. I think it was written only to provide a TSO capability for 
z/OSMF, not for normal TSO use.

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Re: PDSE

2012-01-20 Thread Bob Shannon
Try running an IEBCopy compress against the data set (option z against

I believe compress is skipped for a PDSE.

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Re: Peculiar issue related to TSO logons

2012-01-10 Thread Bob Shannon
I'd look for a spool problem or resource contention. Issue a D GRS,C. A 
seriously over loaded CPU can also show these symptoms.

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Re: TSO on z/OS 1.12 with LOGONHERE and multisystem logon

2011-12-09 Thread Bob Shannon
Same answer as Jon. Used it since beta. No problem. 

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Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Bob Shannon
I believe that the TCP/IP for VM product which was ported to become the 
TCP/IP for MVS product which became incorporated into the Communications 
Server product as the IP component follows what is described as the Berkeley 
Software Distribution (BSD flavour of an implementation of the Internet 
Protocol and related protocols such as TCP and UDP and so on. 

However, TCP/IP was re-written for z/OS 1.5. I don't know how much of the 
original port remains.

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Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Bob Shannon
Actually, it was OS/390 1.5, not z/OS 1.5. Too long ago.

Bob

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Bob

Would you care to supply some evidence for your contention? I find no trace of 
such an upheaval in the z/OS V1R5 Communications Server IP Migration and 
Exploitation manual:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B130/

On the other hand, while there are still components of the system which require 
the functions associated with Step 3, Configure VMCF and TNF, of the 
configuration tasks. related to the dreaded Pascal API, you know you are still 
in the grip of the original ivory tower authors!

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B3B0/1.2.21.5

Chris Mason

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:07:22 +, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com 
wrote:

I believe that the TCP/IP for VM product which was ported to become the 
TCP/IP for MVS product which became incorporated into the Communications 
Server product as the IP component follows what is described as the 
Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD flavour of an implementation of the 
Internet Protocol and related protocols such as TCP and UDP and so on.

However, TCP/IP was re-written for z/OS 1.5. I don't know how much of the 
original port remains.

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Re: Data Areas?

2011-11-11 Thread Bob Shannon
OCO: Object Code Only. It means that not all of the control blocks are 
externalized. (That means they are not documented).

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Re: IBMLINK

2011-11-02 Thread Bob Shannon
Works for me Jon.

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Re: ShopZ Down?

2011-11-02 Thread Bob Shannon
 I have had problems with Shopz all week

I had an order just sit there Monday. I opened an ETR as critical. No 
response a day later. I resubmitted the order and it worked. 

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Re: Please Help IBM Fix 'Broken' PDSE Problems

2011-10-29 Thread Bob Shannon
In Ed's case, he is doing legal sharing with PDSESHARING(EXTENDED) and running 
into problems because of (alleged?) broken IBM code.

We're a heavy PDSE user and we see these abends too. I don't think alleged 
applies to this problem.

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Re: A little bit more about Gilbert Saint-flour

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Shannon
My daughter, who lives in Paris, found the death notice. Gilbert was 61. The 
obituary is not available online.

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Re: BPXWDYN documentation without FTP

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Shannon
My company stubbornly blocks all FTP access outside of our intranet.  Does 
anyone here know
where I can obtain the BPXWDYN documentation other than via FTP?

If FTP is forbidden, then presumably someone has made the publications 
available on your network. It's hard to believe that there is no available 
documentation.

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Re: F8/F9 DSCB Mapping

2011-10-10 Thread Bob Shannon
 Where are there macros

SYS1.MODGEN(IECSDSL1)

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Re: zVM V4 on zEnterprize

2011-10-09 Thread Bob Shannon
We still run VM 2.4 as a second-level guest on a z196. A V4 system is new 
compared to that.

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Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Bob Shannon
Download Dave Cole's Scheduler from the Cole Software website. It's free and 
works well.

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Pax/Unpax Question

2011-09-02 Thread Bob Shannon
Posting for a colleague:


I am attempting to pax/unpax an HFS but cannot keep owner/group settings, they 
change to mine in the target HFS.



This is what I am using:

pax -pe -x os390 -wzf //'MVS.pax.dataset.Z' .

pax -pe -x os390 -rf  //'MVS.pax.dataset.Z' .



Can anybody point me to an example to preserve ownership and other settings 
when pax/unpax'ing?

TIA



Bob Shannon

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Replace 3590 With 3592

2011-08-31 Thread Bob Shannon
We are considering replacing the 4 3590 drives in our ATL with 4 3592 drives. 
Given the increased tape capacity, we are concerned with the seek time of the 
3592s, i.e., will they noticeably delay recalls?  I'd appreciate comments from 
those with experience in this area. TIA.

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Re: Roll your own USS

2011-08-29 Thread Bob Shannon
Did we have to start this again?

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Re: CSA and SQA problem

2011-08-25 Thread Bob Shannon
 Was z/OS 1.8 *ever* supported on z/10?

Yes. 1.8 is also supported on a z196.

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Re: iasxwr00

2011-08-23 Thread Bob Shannon
 You can't seem to get that information without paying for it..

The code that was mentioned may be proprietary, but the SAPI API is publically 
documented in SA22-7642 Using The Subsystem Interface. Sample code (written 
by Dave Danner) can be found on File 790 of the CBTTAPE. 

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Re: batch job as non-swappable

2011-08-10 Thread Bob Shannon
It also has to be authorised.
 

No, you are incorrect sir.

It has to reside in an authorized library. Otherwise one sees message:

IEF188I PROBLEM PROGRAM ATTRIBUTES ASSIGNED


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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Bob Shannon
IBM did actually release PL/X (or maybe it was called PL/370 back
then?)

Are you thinking perhaps of PL/C, the WATFIV-like PL/1 processor from Cornell 
U. ??

IBM made PL/X available to ISVs in the mid-1990s. After about 18 months it was 
withdrawn.

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Re: S/A Dump issue

2011-08-03 Thread Bob Shannon
No CVT is often a sign that the SA Dump is no good.

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Re: Programmer-Name in SDSF?

2011-08-02 Thread Bob Shannon
FLDENT COLUMN(PNAME),TITLE(PROGRAMMER-NAME),WIDTH(D)

If you can update parmlib you should be able to change this.

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Re: z/OS 1.12 data areas

2011-07-21 Thread Bob Shannon
Barbara - You can download the .boo pubs (including the 1.12 data areas) from 
the IBM website http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/

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Re: Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

2011-07-18 Thread Bob Shannon
He did not say the PC instruction will not work above the bar

The Entry Table Entry for a PC routine has not been expanded to 64 bits. Until 
it is, a PC routine cannot be above the Bar. It appears that Amode 64 is 
supported (but not documented) but the PC routine cannot reside above the Bar

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Re: Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

2011-07-05 Thread Bob Shannon
I've heard it referred to as the dead zone since it exists but can't be used 
by mortals.

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Re: Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

2011-07-05 Thread Bob Shannon
AFAIK the only fella that grabs storage from the 2G-4G area is Java via an 
IBM-internal API

IIRC, the Private Area above the bar begins at 16Gb. Everything below that is 
reserved for Java. This change was implemented via PTF.

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Re: Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

2011-07-05 Thread Bob Shannon
Java uses memory in the bar?

Java uses the area for compressed pointers. It doesn't execute there.

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Re: RMM ?

2011-06-03 Thread Bob Shannon
IIRC, EXPDT=98000 on the LABEL parameter is the keyword for foreign tapes.

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Re: APF Authorization

2011-06-01 Thread Bob Shannon
Just guessing, but APF is simply a list of libraries and volsers etc. If you 
call the library by another name it won't match what's in the list. The a 
simple test is to add the alias name to the APF list and retest your job.

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Re: Problems with TSO TEST

2011-05-24 Thread Bob Shannon
On a 1.12 system I get:

l +0  
   +0  1BFF07FE  
TEST  
l +0 I
   +0SR  R15,R15
 
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ShopZ

2011-05-23 Thread Bob Shannon
ShopZ was down all day yesterday and is still unavailable this morning. It 
looks like it will be a while:


ShopzSeries is temporarily unavailable for maintenance.

ShopzSeries is scheduled to resume normal operations by Saturday, October 24th 
at 12:00 AM MDT / 06:00 GMT.

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Re: EDC4052

2011-05-16 Thread Bob Shannon
EDC4052W Module name 1 chosen for generated IMPORT control statements.

 Explanation:  The prelinker has assigned the default name TEMPNAME to the  
 module in the Definition Side-Deck.

 Programmer Response:  Include a NAME control statement in the prelinker
 input or specify the output object module of the prelinker to be a PDS 
 member so that the prelinker will use that as the module name in generated 
 IMPORT control statements. 

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Re: Leaving IBM-MAIN

2011-05-06 Thread Bob Shannon
 I'm sorry - but if you are going to leave the list,  just leave - no reason 
 to throw daggers on your way out the door

He expressed the feelings of a lot of people. Where is Darren when we need him?

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Re: DB2 V9 Vs V10

2011-04-19 Thread Bob Shannon
we are into delema whether to go V8 to V9 upgrade or skip V9 
and go directly to V10 from V8. Please,let me know what can be the possible 
issues or pros n cons if this skip of V9? 

From my DB2 guy:

There three ways to look at this:  1) Migration paths, 2) code quality, 3) COO 
(Cost of Ownership).

Migration Paths:  My experience with the two migration paths is that the skip 
level path (V8 - V10) is not appreciably more difficult than the traditional 
path (V8- V9).  In fact, when you factor in the subsequent migration from V9 to 
V10 (after doing V8 - V9), one could argue that the V8 - V10 migration path is 
in fact the easiest.  I would review the preparation doc and run the 
preparation jobs for both migration paths, and unless something specific 
materialized to make me think otherwise, the skip level path is clearly the 
most desirable.

Code Quality:  One need only look at the number of PTF's which came out in the 
first 12 months for V9, as compared to the number of PTF's after V9 had been 
allowed to mature, to understand the potential ramifications.  The first 12 
months of any new version will produce the greatest number of issues/problems, 
and V10 will certainly be no exception.  If you cannot tolerate this 
maturation process, and if you cannot wait until V10 has been GA for at least 
12 months, then the V8 - V9 path is the most desirable.  V9 is fairly stable 
code right now.  I am not saying that V10 is not stable, but certainly not as 
stable as V9, for obvious reasons.

COO:  This is the easy one ... if you can save the cost of V9 with the skip 
level migration, obviously the V8- V10 path is your most desirable choice.

Without knowing more about the specifics of your DB2 environment (e.g. is there 
something in V10 you really need in-house NOW?) ... this is the best feedback I 
can provide. 

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Re: AC (authorization code) change

2011-04-12 Thread Bob Shannon
 What seems to have been missed in this whole discussion is that the module
 in question isn't even the job step task program, it does not need AC=1, and
 should not have the it's attributes changed.

Scott is correct. DSNUTILS does not need to be link edited AC(1). Look 
elsewhere to solve the authorization problem. 

I agree that every systems programmer should know how to relink a module, and 
that in this case it's the wrong thing to do.

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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-29 Thread Bob Shannon
I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console 
is actually being used by z/OS customers:

1)  How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last 
resort?

 Yes we did

2)  How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles?

 NO we have not. And I hope we won't.

3)  How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System 
Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles 
(or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)?

 NO we have local consoles defined

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Re: zIIPs and zAAPs

2011-03-18 Thread Bob Shannon
I would buy zIIPs instead of zAAPs, however, AFAIK zAAP on zIIP doesn't work if 
any zAAPs are available. 

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-Original Message-
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Subject: zIIPs and zAAPs

Is there any downside to running zAAP on zIIPs versus all zAAPs *if* there is 
no current appreciable zIIP workload present?

Planning for a z196 and the thought is why not get zIIPs now and if zIIP 
activity starts to affect zAAP workloads, pay IBM and convert some of the zIIPs 
to zAAPS.

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Re: zOS 1.8 and z196s

2011-03-18 Thread Bob Shannon
Yes. There are PTFs available for 1.8 and 1.9.

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Re: Does R OUND datas et allocat ion mean c ylinder bo undary?‏

2011-02-02 Thread Bob Shannon
Greg Dyck changed IEWFETCH to use ECKD in z/OS 1.7, which remedied the 
situation for fetching load modules from PDSes. He moved to DB2 Development 
several years ago, so I doubt that he follows IBM-MAIN any more.

Pity. He is a really good guy to work with. Our loss, DB2's gain.

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Re: Long-running jobs, PDS, and DISP=SHR

2011-01-25 Thread Bob Shannon
then how can we be sure that TWO people won't try to update it at the same 
time DISP=SHR?

I believe that concurrent updates to a PDS result in an S213-30 abend.

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Re: digitize old hardcopy manuals

2011-01-19 Thread Bob Shannon
 But there is still one question: Do you need OCR or just an image per page?

I scanned roughly the same amount that you require. I used a regular copier 
that can scan to PDFs. It was a 1 to 1 conversion i.e., one page of hardcopy to 
one page of softcopy. It was tedious. The PDFs aren't searchable, but at least 
the hardcopy has been digitized. Frankly, given the age of your material I 
don't think having a searchable PDF is necessary.  Due to the size of the 
manuals, you will probably require the version of Adobe that allows PDFs to be 
combined (Adobe Professional?). I assume that you don't want to pay a copying 
service to perform this work.

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Re: speculation: z/OS enhancments

2011-01-12 Thread Bob Shannon
If you really want any of this stuff, build a business case and submit it to 
IBM. Sending a wish list to IBM-MAIN won't get it done. Frankly, I'd like code 
that did what I meant and not what I said, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

For example, what business problem will jobnames GT 8 characters solve? What's 
the benefit to your organization? What's the business justification to do it? 
Will you convert to UNIX if the jobname restriction isn't changed? If it is 
changed, will it improve your profitability or productivity? Will it improve 
IBM's profitability or sell more copies of z/OS? 

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Re: $HASP395 JOB ENDED - 12/31/11 - 09.45.10 MAXCC=0000

2011-01-03 Thread Bob Shannon
Have you modified the message? I don't think the vanilla message contains the 
date.

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Re: 64 bit mode disabled

2010-12-01 Thread Bob Shannon
 So 64 bit mode is like a Dataspace

The immediate problem addressed by amode 64 was to move data above the bar. 
Hence the current similarity to dataspaces. However, the architecture supports 
64 bit execution; the problem is that the operating system doesn't. As Chris 
Craddock pointed out, many of the control blocks used to manage execution (and 
recovery) need to be changed to support execution above the bar. It's still a 
work in progress.

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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-11-30 Thread Bob Shannon
1. NJE over TCP would result in one hop (assuming IP connectivity between the 
two MASs)
2. If it's a one-time exercise, can you do a spool unload/reload?

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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-11-30 Thread Bob Shannon
 Doesn't NJE over IP have the same restrictions as standard NJE of
connecting two nodes of the same name?

I overlooked that detail. You should be able to use a node number as long as 
they are different.

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Re: Mac Emulator

2010-11-13 Thread Bob Shannon
Since I started this thread, I would appreciate the hijackers renaming it to 
something else.

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Mac Emulator

2010-11-09 Thread Bob Shannon
Can anyone recommend a 3270 emulator for a Mac? (Asked on behalf of a 
co-worker). TIA.

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Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-11-01 Thread Bob Shannon
 Of course they're not documented

But they are listed in SYS1.MODGEN(IGVDGNB).

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1.12 SDSF Problem

2010-10-26 Thread Bob Shannon
This one bit us today. We saw very bad performance looking at jobs on other 
systems in a MAS from a 1.12 system. It turns out all down-level JES2 systems 
must be warm-started with USE_XCFGRPNM=YES specified in JES2PARMs. To make 
matters worse, if you code USE_XCFGRPNM=YES on the 1.12 system JES2 doesn't 
recognize the parameter and prompts the operator for a response. It's described 
(sort of) in APAR OA34164.

As one of my guys pointed out, (E)JES had no such problem.

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Re: Shopzseries down?

2010-10-25 Thread Bob Shannon
Has anyone been able to get into Shopz today? I'm getting the following 
message:

ShopzSeries is temporarily unavailable for maintenance.
ShopzSeries is scheduled to resume normal operations by Saturday, October 24th 
at 12:00 AM MDT / 06:00 GMT.

I haven't tried today, but IMO ShopZ is very unreliable. A couple of weeks ago 
I opened a problem and they said they had a problem open with the developer. 
Testing doesn't seem to be a priority.

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Re: z/os 1.11 and low private

2010-10-25 Thread Bob Shannon
 Did you mean you need to explicitly request to use the new behavior by coding 
 VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO)

A lot of early 1.10 customers did not complain. By making 1.9 the default, 
customers who want the new behavior will have to code this forever.

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Re: What is the oldest version of zOS that requires use of the Extended-Immediate Facility?

2010-10-20 Thread Bob Shannon
 For example, can z/OS 1.6 run on hardware without it?

Extended immediate instructions were introduced on Freeway (i.e., z800/z900) 
processors. Operating systems prior to 1.6 could run on 9672 processors. 1.6 
requires a Freeway processor. 1.6 went out of service 9/30/2007.


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Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Bob Shannon
 And I'd heard SHARE Collection of Inebriates, Drunkards, and Sots

That's the definition I'd heard, but I don't think anyone really knows what 
SCIDS stands for. 

Q: What does SHARE stand for?
A: SHARE is not an acronym. It stood for sharing information.

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Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Bob Shannon
 I would think it means code that front-ends one of the First Level Interrupt 
 Handlers

That's how Amdahl implemented SE and SP assist years ago. I think IBM did it to 
implement the IEEE floating point instructions so that they would work on 
processors that lacked the hardware. Of course these were not malicious 
implementations.

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Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-13 Thread Bob Shannon
 whether the mainframe has been hacked or not

Well, do you really think either IBM or a customer would admit that a mainframe 
system had been hacked? 

In the old days some shops left the IBMUSER Id active on the system. I'm sure 
that such incompetence still exists. With TCP/IP, USS, Java, and a billion or 
so hackers worldwide, the risks are higher than ever. 

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Re: Batch loop in SYSplex

2010-10-11 Thread Bob Shannon
 Did you open an issue with IBM? That should be step one.

Isn't 1.9 unsupported now?

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Re: Batch loop in SYSplex

2010-10-11 Thread Bob Shannon
 If it's unsupported where did he get the RSU? And is there a more current RSU 
 that he can 
 get from the same source?

One can order maintenance for unsupported releases, one just can't open 
problems.

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Re: What data area contains number of CPU running on a processor

2010-10-06 Thread Bob Shannon
Would anyone know what data area this information is located in 

This I what I found for v1.9:
Title: z/OS V1R9.0 MVS Data Areas, Vol 1 (ABEP-DALT)* *Document Number: 
GA22-7581-11*

Can't anyone do their own research anymore? If someone has looked, couldn't 
find the required information and needs help, that's one thing, but some of 
these requests strike me as being downright lazy.

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Re: Duplicate Volser

2010-10-04 Thread Bob Shannon
 But I have SYSLOG proof that both UCBs are online at the same time, with the 
 same 
VOLSER.

I've never seen this happen, and didn't think it could happen. I'd like to see 
proof that this occurred.

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Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread Bob Shannon
We have two z890s (in addition to a z9 and a z10). They provide cheap MIPS. DB2 
V10 will run on an z/890/z990 (but not on an z800/z900). However, both of the 
older classes of machines are stabilized so far as adding features is 
concerned. 

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Re: TRSMAIN RC=8

2010-08-31 Thread Bob Shannon
So you should find a copy of the new and improved AMATRSE in your shipped 
system from IBM.

He said he's running 1.6, so this isn't an option.

Here's what you can do:

1. XMIT the PDS to a sequential dataset
2. Terse the sequential dataset
3. IND$FILE (binary) the tersed file (presumably to a PC)
4. Upload (IND$FILE) binary to a sequential dataset (same DCB as from Step 2)
5. Unterse the file (Same DCB as in Step 1)
6. RECEIVE the input file to create a PDS

I haven't used IND$FILE in years so I may have missed something.

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Re: Newbie with the Hardware Instrumentation - HIS

2010-08-30 Thread Bob Shannon
I couldn't find any reporting facilities ... In particular the .SMP files look 
binary stuff 

Are there any ? Any help on getting me started ?

There is no reporting facility.

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Re: Contents of CVTDCB

2010-08-26 Thread Bob Shannon
 I need to know what the expected setting of the CVTDCB field (CVT + X'74')
is on a z/OS V1R9 system.

Looks like it's been X'9B' for a long time.

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Re: Heads Up: JES2 APAR OA32551 Undiscovered Toleration

2010-08-20 Thread Bob Shannon
In my judgment anyway, the presence of even two and certainly of three 
different levels of JES2 in the same MAS is 1) avoidable and 2) desirably 
avoided without compromising 24/7 availability, etc., etc.

I would prefer to run all JES's at the same level, but agree with Mark that 
unless one slam dunks maintenance and upgrades on all systems simultaneously, 
it's unlikely to happen. At the request of our developers, in a four-way 
Sysplex, we run three systems at N and one at N-1. In six years we haven't seen 
a JES problem due to the release level.

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Re: Anyone Using z10 Large Pages in anger

2010-08-16 Thread Bob Shannon
 Right now because of the bug I wrote about in a previous post, it just 
 takes a lot more
planning than it should have

What was the resolution of the Sev 1? BAD? I can understand something not 
working correctly, but I can't understand it not working correctly forever.

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Re: DB/2 V7 on Z/os V1.11

2010-08-16 Thread Bob Shannon
 I was told that today's obscene software prices goes back to the 
 consolidation timeframe. 
 Many shops were around back then and each paying a separate license fee. 
 Then, huge service bureaus opened up and many shops consolidate to few. 
 And the few then multiplexed their software licenses to all their clients. 
 And the software vendors were badly hurt. So they invented the pay per MIP 
 charging. 

Imagine what MS would __like__ to do (if possible) if Intel came out with a 
128 core processor and data centers collapsed all their servers on a 100:1 
ratio? And wanted to do the same with their MS software licenses. Oh, and in 
addition decided to use Linux desktop which would remote desktop into a 
terminal server arrangement (so the users would still be running their 
normal Windows applications) so that MS got 1 server license instead of 100 
desktop licenses. All of a sudden, MS would demand pay per MIP as well! 
Come to think of it, I think MS uses pay per seat for this arrangement just 
to make it undesirable.

I thought you saved your rants for Fridays.


Bob Shannon

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Re: Where what to do next - Load modules missing from PDS

2010-08-05 Thread Bob Shannon
 I'm at a lost as to where to go next.

It depends on what you want. If you need the modules back, you should be able 
to regenerate them from Endevor. If the library is a PDS then you could use the 
PDS command to look at, and optionally restore, the deleted members (assuming a 
compress wasn't done).
 
If you are more concerned about diagnosing the problem, revue syslog and logrec 
from the previous Wednesday. If the library is a PDS it's possible you have a 
damaged directory block. Run the VERIFY option of PDS. If the library is a 
PDSE, look for APARS.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software 

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Subject: Where what to do next - Load modules missing from PDS

G'day,

We have had a mystery here.  On Wednesday last week all programs were in the 
PDS.  On Thursday there were 7 programs missing.  The 7 programs belong to the 
same development group, and no other group has any thing missing.  Compress is 
done once a month when IMS is down, if not IMS regions abend all over the place 
with programs not found, this has not happened.

We are an Endevor shop and Endevor and a very small number of people have 
access other then read to the data sets.

Endevor shows no deletes, The source is showing that the modules have not been 
generated since 2008  2009.

SMF shows no access of update except for Endevor.

RACF log shows the same as SMF.

I'm at a lost as to where to go next.

All help is greatly appreciate.

Regards,
Herman Stocker

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Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-30 Thread Bob Shannon
 Maybe I have a post-retirement second career path as a sales/marketing person?

Not a chance. You have too much integrity.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: IND$FILE question

2010-07-19 Thread Bob Shannon
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John P. Baker
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 1:38 PM
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Ed,

There were separate products released for MVS, VM, and VSE.  All were
released in 1983.

On MVS, the product number was 5665-311, and the FMID was HFX1112.

John P. Baker

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I vaguely remember  (A LONG TIME AGO mind you) that there was a separately
installable FMID for IND$FILE (bonus points for the year it came out)
Does anyone remember this? As a side question there was a separate help
member in sys1.help (vague recollection here) Does(did?) IBM still ship the
Help member for it? I seemed to remember that it was dropped along the way
and it was never put back. Is this true?
I just vaguely remember creating a usermod to add it back.
Ed

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