Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-13 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
(I seem to vaguely remember that some PFS types have got 
some dependency on that name in never releases. I know the
above worked in earlier OS/390 releases; I tried)

For the records: I've been searching my old notes and found 
that

- ZFS must be ZFS. You'll get a message from ZFS when
  you try to start it with some other name.

- Automount needs to be called AUTOMNT. You'll get a 
  message when running /usr/sbin/automount if the name
  is not correct.

- HFS, TFS and INET can be started with different names.
  (I don't mean to say anyone should do this. It was just
  part of prove myself I understand how this works :-)


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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-10 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
There seems to be quite some confusion here; mainly about
the parameters on the mount statement.

The string inside the parenthesis after FILESYSTEM is
passed to the physical file system program code (PFS for
short hereafter) that you point to with the TYPE parameter.

It is the up to that program code to use that string
for whatever is was designed to.

HFS PFS: It's the DSN to mount.
ZFS PFS: It's the DSN to mount.
TFS PFS: It's just a name with no relation to anything
 physical like a DSN, etc. 
 A name is required so that you can unmount the
 file system if needed.

And remember that the name you code with the TYPE
parameter is again just a string.

The ENTRYPOINT parameter on the FYILESYSTYPE statement
determines what PFS program code is loaded and associacted
with the name given by the TYPE parameter.

Thereafter you send a mount command to any of the loaded
PFSs by specifying the corresponding name on the TYPE 
parameter of the mount command.

So, basically this would work:

   FILESYSTYPE TYPE(RAM) ENTRYPOINT(BPXTFS)

   MOUNT FILESYSTEM('JUST_A_NAME_FOR_THE_BOOKKEEPING')
 TYPE(RAM) 
 MOUNTPOINT('/tmp')   
 PARM('-s 10')   

(I seem to vaguely remember that some PFS types have got 
some dependency on that name in never releases. I know the
above worked in earlier OS/390 releases; I tried)

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Our /tmp is a zfs file with secondary extents assigned and not sms managed, the 
volume contains over 1800 free cyls. I got a msg that the file was full, since 
this is a sand box system I just unmounted and remounted to clear this up.

Why wouldn't this zfs file automatically grow? Tks Matt 

MOUNT FILESYSTEM('SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP')  
  MOUNTPOINT('/tmp')   
 TYPE(TFS)   
 MODE(RDWR)  

SYS1.PARMLIB(IOEPRM00) contains aggrgrow=on



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Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:46 PM
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Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

That's peculiar.  Your display seems to indicate otherwise.  In addition to the 
mentioned D OMVS are you looking at the right members?  See D PARMLIB for your 
particular concatenation.  I cannot imagine this, but do you have something 
like /usr/sbin/mount -t ZFS -f OMVS.SYSA.TMP automated somewhere?

Maybe D IPLINFO and D OMVS,F,N=VSAM.ZFS.OACT.TMP to glean the timing, etc.

Regards,

Kevin

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Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

I do not have a mount of /tmp in my active BPXPRMxx member.  Actually there is 
no mounts at all in the member.  I do have OMVS. Datasets for all the old 
reliables... var, etc/ tmp

# df -v /tmp
Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
/SYSTEM/tmp(OMVS.SYSA.TMP)   28518/576004294967265 Available
ZFS, Read/Write, Device:3, ACLS=Y
Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
Aggregate Name : OMVS.SYSA.TMP



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Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

Tracy,

If you do not have a mount point for /tmp in your BPXPRMxx parmlib 
member(s), then that means you have it under the root which is not a good 
idea at all.  You can issue the MVS command D OMVS to validate what active 
BPXPRMxx member(s) you are running off of.  Then from there you can see if 
you have a mount point MOUNTPOINT('/tmp') for your /tmp directory and 
determine what type it is, if there.  If not there, I would create a mount 
point for /tmp and I would recommand a TFS since it does clean itself up 
automatically.


Thanks,

Craig Pace





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Thanks all.  The ISHELL process allowed me to extend the directory to 
resolve the problem.  When the day is quiet I will try the unmounting and 
mounting trick to see if the space gets cleaned up.  The confighfs command 
returns that it is not mounted as HFS and there are no entries in the 
parmlib so I would conclude that it probably is a TFS filesystem.

Thanks again for your quick responses! 

PS For additional reading on the topic I recommend the ABCs volume 9 
manual :-)

 
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Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

Tracy,

Did you do a 'ls -la /tmp' to make sure also hidden files (ie. starting 
with a '.') are shown?
We use TFS for /tmp and doing umount / remount normally works perfectly to 
clean it up...

Regards,

Erik.

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Onderwerp: /tmp space is full



First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the 
basic set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch 
it.  Now we are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a 
long time that provides and consumes Web Services.

Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is 
taking the space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in 
there and they are smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are 
allocated.  The syslog file is there also but when I cat that there only 
is a hand full of records in there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A. 
How do tell what is allocated that space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp 
larger on the fly?

TIA,

Tracy

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Rob Schramm
What does a LISTCAT of the ZFS data set say?

Our /tmp is a zfs file with secondary extents assigned and not sms managed,
the volume contains over 1800 free cyls. I got a msg that the file was full,
since this is a sand box system I just unmounted and remounted to clear this
up.

Why wouldn't this zfs file automatically grow? Tks Matt 

MOUNT FILESYSTEM('SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP')  
  MOUNTPOINT('/tmp')   
 TYPE(TFS)   
 MODE(RDWR)  

SYS1.PARMLIB(IOEPRM00) contains aggrgrow=on

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Lutz Hamann
Matt,

and why did you specifiy TYPE(TFS) in your MOUNT-statement ? That means an
in-storage filesystem in a colony-address space ...


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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Listc listing,

CLUSTER --- SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP   
  IN-CAT --- CATALOG.OSMCAT  
  HISTORY
DATASET-OWNER-(NULL) CREATION2011.024
RELEASE2 EXPIRATION--.000   
EATTR-(NULL)
BWO STATUS(NULL) BWO TIMESTAMP-(NULL)   
BWO---(NULL)
  PROTECTION-PSWD-(NULL) RACF(NO)   
  ASSOCIATIONS  
DATA-SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP.DATA 
DATA --- SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP.DATA 
  IN-CAT --- CATALOG.OSMCAT 
  HISTORY   
DATASET-OWNER-(NULL) CREATION2011.024   
RELEASE2 EXPIRATION--.000   
ACCOUNT-INFO---(NULL)   
  PROTECTION-PSWD-(NULL) RACF(NO)   
  ASSOCIATIONS  
CLUSTER--SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP  
  ATTRIBUTES
KEYLEN-0 AVGLRECL---0 BUFSPACE--
--8192 CISIZE--4096 
RKP0 MAXLRECL---0 EXCPEXIT--
(NULL) CI/CA180 
SHROPTNS(3,3)   RECOVERY UNIQUE   NOERASE LINEAR
NOWRITECHK NOIMBED   NOREPLICAT 
 UNORDEREDNOREUSE NONSPANNED   ZFS   
   STATISTICS
 REC-TOTAL--0 SPLITS-CI--0 EXCPS-
--0  
 REC-DELETED0 SPLITS-CA--0 EXTENTS---
--1  
 REC-INSERTED---0 FREESPACE-%CI--0 SYSTEM-TIMESTA
 
 REC-UPDATED0 FREESPACE-%CA--0  X'000
00'  
 REC-RETRIEVED--0 FREESPC0   
   ALLOCATION
 SPACE-TYPE--CYLINDER HI-A-RBA36864000   
 SPACE-PRI-50 HI-U-RBA36864000   
 SPACE-SEC-50
   VOLUME
 VOLSEROMVST1 PHYREC-SIZE-4096 HI-A-RBA--
6864000 EXTENT-NUMBER--1 
 DEVTYPE--X'3010200F' PHYRECS/TRK---12 HI-U-RBA--
6864000 EXTENT-TYPEX'40' 
 VOLFLAGPRIME TRACKS/CA-15   
 EXTENTS:
 LOW-CCHH-X'1FF2' LOW-RBA0 TRACKS   
  
---750   
   HIGH-CCHHX'2023000E' HIGH-RBA36863999 
***  

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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

What does a LISTCAT of the ZFS data set say?

Our /tmp is a zfs file with secondary extents assigned and not sms managed,
the volume contains over 1800 free cyls. I got a msg that the file was full,
since this is a sand box system I just unmounted and remounted to clear this
up.

Why wouldn't this zfs file automatically grow? Tks Matt 

MOUNT FILESYSTEM('SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP')  
  MOUNTPOINT('/tmp')   
 TYPE(TFS)   
 MODE(RDWR)  

SYS1.PARMLIB(IOEPRM00) contains aggrgrow=on

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Shaffer, Terri E
I didn't think TYPE(TFS) used a hardcoded filename.  What does a mount table 
look like for that /tmp directory?  If you do ISHELL and U beside /tmp, what 
does it say?

Thanks

Ms. Terri E. Shaffer 
terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com
Engineer
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Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

Listc listing,

CLUSTER --- SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP   
  IN-CAT --- CATALOG.OSMCAT  
  HISTORY
DATASET-OWNER-(NULL) CREATION2011.024
RELEASE2 EXPIRATION--.000   
EATTR-(NULL)
BWO STATUS(NULL) BWO TIMESTAMP-(NULL)   
BWO---(NULL)
  PROTECTION-PSWD-(NULL) RACF(NO)   
  ASSOCIATIONS  
DATA-SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP.DATA 
DATA --- SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP.DATA 
  IN-CAT --- CATALOG.OSMCAT 
  HISTORY   
DATASET-OWNER-(NULL) CREATION2011.024   
RELEASE2 EXPIRATION--.000   
ACCOUNT-INFO---(NULL)   
  PROTECTION-PSWD-(NULL) RACF(NO)   
  ASSOCIATIONS  
CLUSTER--SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP  
  ATTRIBUTES
KEYLEN-0 AVGLRECL---0 BUFSPACE--
--8192 CISIZE--4096 
RKP0 MAXLRECL---0 EXCPEXIT--
(NULL) CI/CA180 
SHROPTNS(3,3)   RECOVERY UNIQUE   NOERASE LINEAR
NOWRITECHK NOIMBED   NOREPLICAT 
 UNORDEREDNOREUSE NONSPANNED   ZFS   
   STATISTICS
 REC-TOTAL--0 SPLITS-CI--0 EXCPS-
--0  
 REC-DELETED0 SPLITS-CA--0 EXTENTS---
--1  
 REC-INSERTED---0 FREESPACE-%CI--0 SYSTEM-TIMESTA
 
 REC-UPDATED0 FREESPACE-%CA--0  X'000
00'  
 REC-RETRIEVED--0 FREESPC0   
   ALLOCATION
 SPACE-TYPE--CYLINDER HI-A-RBA36864000   
 SPACE-PRI-50 HI-U-RBA36864000   
 SPACE-SEC-50
   VOLUME
 VOLSEROMVST1 PHYREC-SIZE-4096 HI-A-RBA--
6864000 EXTENT-NUMBER--1 
 DEVTYPE--X'3010200F' PHYRECS/TRK---12 HI-U-RBA--
6864000 EXTENT-TYPEX'40' 
 VOLFLAGPRIME TRACKS/CA-15   
 EXTENTS:
 LOW-CCHH-X'1FF2' LOW-RBA0 TRACKS   
  
---750   
   HIGH-CCHHX'2023000E' HIGH-RBA36863999 
***  

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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

What does a LISTCAT of the ZFS data set say?

Our /tmp is a zfs file

Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread McKown, John
TFS means you are using storage, not a zFS or HFS physical file. It won't grow. 
With TYPE(TFS), the dataset name is not really used. It is a logical name, 
not really the name of a physical file.

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 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:17 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 Our /tmp is a zfs file with secondary extents assigned and 
 not sms managed, the volume contains over 1800 free cyls. I 
 got a msg that the file was full, since this is a sand box 
 system I just unmounted and remounted to clear this up.
 
 Why wouldn't this zfs file automatically grow? Tks Matt 
 
 MOUNT FILESYSTEM('SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP')  
   MOUNTPOINT('/tmp')   
  TYPE(TFS)   
  MODE(RDWR)  
 
 SYS1.PARMLIB(IOEPRM00) contains aggrgrow=on
 
 
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Neubert, Kevin
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:46 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 That's peculiar.  Your display seems to indicate otherwise.  
 In addition to the mentioned D OMVS are you looking at the 
 right members?  See D PARMLIB for your particular 
 concatenation.  I cannot imagine this, but do you have 
 something like /usr/sbin/mount -t ZFS -f OMVS.SYSA.TMP 
 automated somewhere?
 
 Maybe D IPLINFO and D OMVS,F,N=VSAM.ZFS.OACT.TMP to glean the 
 timing, etc.
 
 Regards,
 
 Kevin
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:11 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 I do not have a mount of /tmp in my active BPXPRMxx member.  
 Actually there is no mounts at all in the member.  I do have 
 OMVS. Datasets for all the old reliables... var, etc/ tmp
 
 # df -v /tmp
 Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles 
  Status
 /SYSTEM/tmp(OMVS.SYSA.TMP)   28518/57600
 4294967265 Available
 ZFS, Read/Write, Device:3, ACLS=Y
 Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
 Aggregate Name : OMVS.SYSA.TMP
 
 
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Craig Pace
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:07 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 Tracy,
 
 If you do not have a mount point for /tmp in your BPXPRMxx parmlib 
 member(s), then that means you have it under the root which 
 is not a good 
 idea at all.  You can issue the MVS command D OMVS to 
 validate what active 
 BPXPRMxx member(s) you are running off of.  Then from there 
 you can see if 
 you have a mount point MOUNTPOINT('/tmp') for your /tmp 
 directory and 
 determine what type it is, if there.  If not there, I would 
 create a mount 
 point for /tmp and I would recommand a TFS since it does 
 clean itself up 
 automatically.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Craig Pace
 
 
 
 
 
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 Subject
 Re: /tmp space is full
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 Thanks all.  The ISHELL process allowed me to extend the directory to 
 resolve the problem.  When the day is quiet I will try the 
 unmounting and 
 mounting trick to see if the space gets cleaned up.  The 
 confighfs command 
 returns that it is not mounted as HFS and there are no entries in the 
 parmlib so I would conclude that it probably is a TFS filesystem.
 
 Thanks again for your quick responses! 
 
 PS For additional reading on the topic I recommend the ABCs volume 9 
 manual :-)
 
  
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On 
 Behalf Of Erik Janssen
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:24 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 Tracy,
 
 Did you do a 'ls -la /tmp' to make sure also hidden files 
 (ie. starting 
 with a '.') are shown?
 We use TFS for /tmp and doing umount / remount normally works 
 perfectly

Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Using TFS removes the need to manually clean up the /tmp directory since it 
gets cleaned up when you IPL. If there are any files you need to keep over an 
IPL then they must go somewhere else.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:31 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

Matt,

and why did you specifiy TYPE(TFS) in your MOUNT-statement ? That means an 
in-storage filesystem in a colony-address space ...


ciao   Lutz

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Dazzo, Matt
I thought that if I kept it as type TFS the zfs file system would get cleaned 
up at ipl time. So if I change to type ZFS then I have clean up manually or 
create some script to clean up?  

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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:36 AM
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Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

TFS means you are using storage, not a zFS or HFS physical file. It won't grow. 
With TYPE(TFS), the dataset name is not really used. It is a logical name, 
not really the name of a physical file.

--
John McKown 
Systems Engineer IV
IT

Administrative Services Group

HealthMarkets(r)

9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
(817) 255-3225 phone * 
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt
 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:17 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 Our /tmp is a zfs file with secondary extents assigned and 
 not sms managed, the volume contains over 1800 free cyls. I 
 got a msg that the file was full, since this is a sand box 
 system I just unmounted and remounted to clear this up.
 
 Why wouldn't this zfs file automatically grow? Tks Matt 
 
 MOUNT FILESYSTEM('SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP')  
   MOUNTPOINT('/tmp')   
  TYPE(TFS)   
  MODE(RDWR)  
 
 SYS1.PARMLIB(IOEPRM00) contains aggrgrow=on
 
 
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Neubert, Kevin
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:46 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 That's peculiar.  Your display seems to indicate otherwise.  
 In addition to the mentioned D OMVS are you looking at the 
 right members?  See D PARMLIB for your particular 
 concatenation.  I cannot imagine this, but do you have 
 something like /usr/sbin/mount -t ZFS -f OMVS.SYSA.TMP 
 automated somewhere?
 
 Maybe D IPLINFO and D OMVS,F,N=VSAM.ZFS.OACT.TMP to glean the 
 timing, etc.
 
 Regards,
 
 Kevin
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:11 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 I do not have a mount of /tmp in my active BPXPRMxx member.  
 Actually there is no mounts at all in the member.  I do have 
 OMVS. Datasets for all the old reliables... var, etc/ tmp
 
 # df -v /tmp
 Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles 
  Status
 /SYSTEM/tmp(OMVS.SYSA.TMP)   28518/57600
 4294967265 Available
 ZFS, Read/Write, Device:3, ACLS=Y
 Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
 Aggregate Name : OMVS.SYSA.TMP
 
 
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Craig Pace
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:07 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 Tracy,
 
 If you do not have a mount point for /tmp in your BPXPRMxx parmlib 
 member(s), then that means you have it under the root which 
 is not a good 
 idea at all.  You can issue the MVS command D OMVS to 
 validate what active 
 BPXPRMxx member(s) you are running off of.  Then from there 
 you can see if 
 you have a mount point MOUNTPOINT('/tmp') for your /tmp 
 directory and 
 determine what type it is, if there.  If not there, I would 
 create a mount 
 point for /tmp and I would recommand a TFS since it does 
 clean itself up 
 automatically.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Craig Pace
 
 
 
 
 
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 Thanks all.  The ISHELL process allowed me to extend the directory to 
 resolve the problem.  When the day is quiet I will try the 
 unmounting and 
 mounting trick to see if the space gets cleaned up.  The 
 confighfs command 
 returns that it is not mounted as HFS and there are no entries in the 
 parmlib so I would conclude that it probably is a TFS filesystem.
 
 Thanks again for your quick responses! 
 
 PS For additional reading on the topic I recommend the ABCs volume 9 
 manual

Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread McKown, John
True on all counts.

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 I thought that if I kept it as type TFS the zfs file system 
 would get cleaned up at ipl time. So if I change to type ZFS 
 then I have clean up manually or create some script to clean up?  
 
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 TFS means you are using storage, not a zFS or HFS physical 
 file. It won't grow. With TYPE(TFS), the dataset name is 
 not really used. It is a logical name, not really the name of 
 a physical file.
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt
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  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
  
  Our /tmp is a zfs file with secondary extents assigned and 
  not sms managed, the volume contains over 1800 free cyls. I 
  got a msg that the file was full, since this is a sand box 
  system I just unmounted and remounted to clear this up.
  
  Why wouldn't this zfs file automatically grow? Tks Matt 
  
  MOUNT FILESYSTEM('SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP')  
MOUNTPOINT('/tmp')   
   TYPE(TFS)   
   MODE(RDWR)  
  
  SYS1.PARMLIB(IOEPRM00) contains aggrgrow=on
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Neubert, Kevin
  Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:46 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
  
  That's peculiar.  Your display seems to indicate otherwise.  
  In addition to the mentioned D OMVS are you looking at the 
  right members?  See D PARMLIB for your particular 
  concatenation.  I cannot imagine this, but do you have 
  something like /usr/sbin/mount -t ZFS -f OMVS.SYSA.TMP 
  automated somewhere?
  
  Maybe D IPLINFO and D OMVS,F,N=VSAM.ZFS.OACT.TMP to glean the 
  timing, etc.
  
  Regards,
  
  Kevin
  
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  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy
  Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:11 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
  
  I do not have a mount of /tmp in my active BPXPRMxx member.  
  Actually there is no mounts at all in the member.  I do have 
  OMVS. Datasets for all the old reliables... var, etc/ tmp
  
  # df -v /tmp
  Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles 
   Status
  /SYSTEM/tmp(OMVS.SYSA.TMP)   28518/57600
  4294967265 Available
  ZFS, Read/Write, Device:3, ACLS=Y
  Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
  Aggregate Name : OMVS.SYSA.TMP
  
  
  
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  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Craig Pace
  Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:07 AM
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  Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
  
  Tracy,
  
  If you do not have a mount point for /tmp in your BPXPRMxx parmlib 
  member(s), then that means you have it under the root which 
  is not a good 
  idea at all.  You can issue the MVS command D OMVS to 
  validate what active 
  BPXPRMxx member(s

Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Lutz Hamann
Yes of course, Jon.

But the question was in conjunction with a zFS filesystem and why the next 
extent wasn't allocated.

And therefore I was pointing to TYPE(TFS) which includes that the mentioned
zFS filesystem is not mounted at all.


   ciao  Lutz

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Yes, that is one of the problems with using a TFS. There is no way to expand if 
you size it too small.

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Yes of course, Jon.

But the question was in conjunction with a zFS filesystem and why the next 
extent wasn't allocated.

And therefore I was pointing to TYPE(TFS) which includes that the mentioned zFS 
filesystem is not mounted at all.


   ciao  Lutz

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
John,

Are you sure about the true on all counts?  I was under the impression that 
if I had the filesystem mounted as a TFS, then it wouldn't even look at a ZFS 
dataset.  The way I read Matt's comment, I got the idea he was thinking that if 
he had it defined as a TFS, the system would automatically somehow pick an 
appropriate ZFS and clear it out at IPL time.  The IPL would clear out the /tmp 
directory tree within OMVS, but it won't touch any ZFS VSAM cluster.

Or maybe the cold this morning froze what few brain cells I had left.  (-20 F 
w/o windchill)

Rex

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Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

True on all counts.

John McKown

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt
 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:04 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

 I thought that if I kept it as type TFS the zfs file system
 would get cleaned up at ipl time. So if I change to type ZFS
 then I have clean up manually or create some script to clean up?

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 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John
 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:36 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

 TFS means you are using storage, not a zFS or HFS physical
 file. It won't grow. With TYPE(TFS), the dataset name is
 not really used. It is a logical name, not really the name of
 a physical file.

 --
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  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt
  Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:17 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
  Our /tmp is a zfs file with secondary extents assigned and
  not sms managed, the volume contains over 1800 free cyls. I
  got a msg that the file was full, since this is a sand box
  system I just unmounted and remounted to clear this up.
 
  Why wouldn't this zfs file automatically grow? Tks Matt
 
  MOUNT FILESYSTEM('SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP')
MOUNTPOINT('/tmp')
   TYPE(TFS)
   MODE(RDWR)
 
  SYS1.PARMLIB(IOEPRM00) contains aggrgrow=on
 
 
 
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  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Neubert, Kevin
  Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:46 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
  That's peculiar.  Your display seems to indicate otherwise.
  In addition to the mentioned D OMVS are you looking at the
  right members?  See D PARMLIB for your particular
  concatenation.  I cannot imagine this, but do you have
  something like /usr/sbin/mount -t ZFS -f OMVS.SYSA.TMP
  automated somewhere?
 
  Maybe D IPLINFO and D OMVS,F,N=VSAM.ZFS.OACT.TMP to glean the
  timing, etc.
 
  Regards,
 
  Kevin
 
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  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy
  Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:11 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
  I do not have a mount of /tmp in my active BPXPRMxx member.
  Actually there is no mounts at all in the member.  I do have
  OMVS. Datasets for all the old reliables... var, etc/ tmp
 
  # df -v /tmp
  Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles
   Status
  /SYSTEM/tmp(OMVS.SYSA.TMP)   28518/57600
  4294967265 Available
  ZFS, Read/Write, Device:3, ACLS=Y
  Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
  Aggregate Name : OMVS.SYSA.TMP
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Craig Pace
  Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:07 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
  Tracy,
 
  If you do not have a mount point for /tmp in your BPXPRMxx parmlib
  member(s), then that means you have it under the root which
  is not a good
  idea at all.  You can issue the MVS command D OMVS to
  validate what active
  BPXPRMxx

Re: /tmp space is full

2011-02-08 Thread Bond, Dick (DIS)
   MOUNT FILESYSTEM('SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP')
 MOUNTPOINT('/tmp')
TYPE(TFS)
MODE(RDWR)

When you say TYPE(TFS) in a mount statement it is referring to a 'FILESYSTYPE' 
statement - not the type of file that you are mounting there.   If you want to 
mount a ZFS at '/tmp' then you need to say TYPE(ZFS) which will point the MOUNT 
to the FILESYSTYPE TYPE(ZFS).

If you mount a file with a TYPE(TFS) it will assume the properties of your 
FILESYSTYPE for TFS (an in-memory physical file system that supports in-storage 
mountable file systems) which usually says something like this:

FILESYSTYPE TYPE(TFS)  
ENTRYPOINT(BPXTFS) 
ASNAME(TFS,'SUB=MSTR')

If you mount a file with a TYPE(ZFS) it will assume the properties of your 
FILESYSTYPE for ZFS which usually says something like this:

FILESYSTYPE TYPE(ZFS) 
   ENTRYPOINT(IOEFSCM)
   ASNAME(ZFS,'SUB=MSTR') 
   PARM('PRM=(00)')   

In other words, the TYPE parameter in a MOUNT statement points to a TYPE of 
FILESYSTEM which dictates the type of file mounted there.  I'm afraid that your 
specification of 
FILESYSTEM('SYS1.OMVS.MVSTECH.PCH.TMP') in your MOUNT statement is being 
ignored and as someone said, just treated as a logical name for the mount.   
You are defaulting to an in-storage file system of 1MB.

Also, the real type used is dependent upon which type of file is found.   See 
GA22-7800, Unix System Services Planning, Customizing the BPXPRMxx member of 
SYS1.PARMLIB,  the section titled Defining File Systems.

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 Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R.
 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:24 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 John,
 
 Are you sure about the true on all counts?  I was under the impression
 that if I had the filesystem mounted as a TFS, then it wouldn't even look at
 a ZFS dataset.  The way I read Matt's comment, I got the idea he was
 thinking that if he had it defined as a TFS, the system would automatically
 somehow pick an appropriate ZFS and clear it out at IPL time.  The IPL
 would clear out the /tmp directory tree within OMVS, but it won't touch
 any ZFS VSAM cluster.
 
 Or maybe the cold this morning froze what few brain cells I had left.  (-20
 F w/o windchill)
 
 Rex
 
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 Behalf Of McKown, John
 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:07 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 True on all counts.
 
 John McKown
 
 Systems Engineer IV
 
 IT
 
 
 
 Administrative Services Group
 
 
 
 HealthMarkets(r)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt
  Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:04 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
  I thought that if I kept it as type TFS the zfs file system
  would get cleaned up at ipl time. So if I change to type ZFS
  then I have clean up manually or create some script to clean up?
 
  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John
  Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:36 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
  TFS means you are using storage, not a zFS or HFS physical
  file. It won't grow. With TYPE(TFS), the dataset name is
  not really used. It is a logical name, not really the name of
  a physical file.
 
  --
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  IT
 
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/tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Adams, Tracy
 
First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the basic 
set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch it.  Now we 
are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a long time that 
provides and consumes Web Services.  

Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is taking the 
space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in there and they are 
smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are allocated.  The syslog file 
is there also but when I cat that there only is a hand full of records in 
there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A.  How do tell what is allocated that 
space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp larger on the fly?

TIA,

Tracy

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Craig Pace
One of the easiers way for the size is from ISH.  Once you are in ISH, go 
to the Options Tab, select option 1 (Directory List) and press enter. Make 
sure you select (slash) File size and then press enter.  Then for your 
path, you can type /tmp/ and press enter.  It should show you file size 
along with each file.

As for increasing, please let us know the following:

How is your /tmp allocated?  HFS, zFS or TFS?  This makes a difference and 
how it can be maintained.

Just as a recommendation, if you are going to be using Web Services more, 
I would recommend making sure both your Web Log files and SYSLOG files are 
NOT in the root or tmp address space.  I would create customer directories 
and set up your configuration files to move this data to the newly created 
directories.  This could save you trouble down the road of everything 
filling up in OMVS.



Thanks,

Craig Pace






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First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the 
basic set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch 
it.  Now we are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a 
long time that provides and consumes Web Services. 

Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is 
taking the space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in 
there and they are smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are 
allocated.  The syslog file is there also but when I cat that there only 
is a hand full of records in there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A. 
How do tell what is allocated that space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp 
larger on the fly?

TIA,

Tracy

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Staller, Allan
If the file system is a TFS, you are pretty much out of luck, You will
possibly need to restart OMVS after modifying BPXPRMxx for the mount
point /TMP. Check the fine manuals. There is a parameter on the TFS
mount command the defines the VS allocated to /TMP. A remount of the
file system *MAY* work here. Much less disruptive than an OMVS restart.

If the physical file system is a HFS, you are in better shape. An OMVS
restart is probably not needed. You will need allocate/define a new HFS
and then UNMOUNT the original and mount the new one.

If the physical file system is a ZFS, you can use the zfsadm  grow
command. See z/OS xx Distributed File Service zFS Administration
SC24-5989-xx.
Select the appropriate manual for your release.

HTH,


snip
First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the
basic set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch
it.  Now we are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a
long time that provides and consumes Web Services.  

Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is
taking the space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in
there and they are smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are
allocated.  The syslog file is there also but when I cat that there only
is a hand full of records in there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A.
How do tell what is allocated that space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp
larger on the fly?
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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Lutz Hamann
And if your /tmp directory is located in a HFS-Filesystem please 
check also whether all extents could be allocated (123).

If not, probably your appropr. 3390 is full. After freeing some space you
could give it try oncee gain or allocate a new extent using the confighfs
command.  


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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread McKown, John
If /tmp is on HFS, then use confighfs to expand it, like:

confighfs -x 10C /tmp

to add 10Cylinders to /tmp on the current volume

confighfs -xn 10C /tmp

to add 10Cylinders to /tmp on a new volume (HFS in this case must be SMS 
managed!)

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/BPXZA590/SHCMDDES.CONFIGHFS.1

If /tmp is zFS, then use zfsadmim

zfsadmin grow -aggregate dsn.containing.tmp.filesystem -size new.max.size.in.k

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/FCXD5A80/ZFSADMGROW


If /tmp is TFS, you are in deep doo and I don't know how to help.

===

Why can't you find the file causing the problem? This is a common problem in 
UNIX. Without going into detail which I'm not qualified to explain, it is 
possible to delete (unlink() or rm) a file which is currently open in a 
process. This removes the directory entry, but does not release the space! In 
fact, the file can continue to grow. The space will be released with the last 
process which has it open does a close on it. You can see this by running a 
shell script similar to the following. 

#!/bin/sh
cd /tmp2 #/tmp2 is on its own filesystem!
exec 3some.file #open fd3 to some.file
rm some.file #remove the directory entry
while true;do #forever
ls -l / 3 #add onto what was some.file
ls -l
df .
sleep 1s
done

This script will run until you interrupt it. On each iteration the amount of 
space in /tmp2 will decrease. But you will never see some.file listed. As 
soon as you interrupt the script, do a df . and you will see all the space in 
/tmp2 come back. That's because interrupting the script closes the inode which 
is then deleted and its space freed.

Many utilities to this type of thing to have file work area without worrying 
about something else being able to mess with it. Most weird to us z/OS types.

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 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 7:34 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: /tmp space is full
 
  
 First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than 
 using the basic set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we 
 have never had to touch it.  Now we are developing an app 
 that may keep the mainframe around a long time that provides 
 and consumes Web Services.  
 
 Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out 
 what is taking the space.  Using the LS command there are 
 only about 5 files in there and they are smal 30-50 blocks(?) 
 apiece of the 28000 that are allocated.  The syslog file is 
 there also but when I cat that there only is a hand full of 
 records in there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A.  How do 
 tell what is allocated that space and/or 2 how can I make 
 /tmp larger on the fly?
 
 TIA,
 
 Tracy
 
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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

On 1/21/2011 2:33 PM, Adams, Tracy wrote:


First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the basic 
set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch it.  Now we 
are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a long time that 
provides and consumes Web Services.

Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is taking the 
space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in there and they are 
smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are allocated.  The syslog file 
is there also but when I cat that there only is a hand full of records in 
there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A.  How do tell what is allocated that 
space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp larger on the fly?

TIA,

Tracy

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Hi

Would suggest maybe the fuser command to see, who is using the tmp and 
why


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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Erik Janssen
Tracy,

Did you do a 'ls -la /tmp' to make sure also hidden files (ie. starting with a 
'.') are shown?
We use TFS for /tmp and doing umount / remount normally works perfectly to 
clean it up...

Regards,

Erik.

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Onderwerp: /tmp space is full



First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the basic 
set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch it.  Now we 
are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a long time that 
provides and consumes Web Services.

Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is taking the 
space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in there and they are 
smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are allocated.  The syslog file 
is there also but when I cat that there only is a hand full of records in 
there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A.  How do tell what is allocated that 
space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp larger on the fly?

TIA,

Tracy

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Adams, Tracy
 
Thanks all.  The ISHELL process allowed me to extend the directory to resolve 
the problem.  When the day is quiet I will try the unmounting and mounting 
trick to see if the space gets cleaned up.  The confighfs command returns that 
it is not mounted as HFS and there are no entries in the parmlib so I would 
conclude that it probably is a TFS filesystem.

Thanks again for your quick responses!  

PS For additional reading on the topic I recommend the ABCs volume 9 manual :-)

 
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Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:24 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

Tracy,

Did you do a 'ls -la /tmp' to make sure also hidden files (ie. starting with a 
'.') are shown?
We use TFS for /tmp and doing umount / remount normally works perfectly to 
clean it up...

Regards,

Erik.

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Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Namens Adams, 
Tracy
Verzonden: vrijdag 21 januari 2011 14:34
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Onderwerp: /tmp space is full



First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the basic 
set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch it.  Now we 
are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a long time that 
provides and consumes Web Services.

Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is taking the 
space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in there and they are 
smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are allocated.  The syslog file 
is there also but when I cat that there only is a hand full of records in 
there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A.  How do tell what is allocated that 
space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp larger on the fly?

TIA,

Tracy

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread McKown, John
If you're curious, use df -v /tmp to find out if it is TFS. Ours is.

df -v /tmp/
Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
/SYSTEM/tmp(/tmp)177416/204800  22177  Available
TFS, Read/Write, Device:2, ACLS=Y
-s 100
Filetag : T=off   codeset=0

===

df -v /home/tsh009
Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
/home/tsh009   (TSSPV.HOME.LIH1.TSH009.ZFS) 116210/820800  4294963302 Available
ZFS, Read/Write, Device:73, ACLS=Y, No SUID
FSFULL(70,10)
Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
Aggregate Name : TSSPV.HOME.LIH1.TSH009.ZFS

===

df -v /etc/
Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
/SYSTEM/etc(OMVS.I16RS1.LIH1.ETC)912/6912   4294967007 Available
HFS, Read/Write, Device:5, ACLS=Y
Filetag : T=off   codeset=0

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
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 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:56 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
  
 Thanks all.  The ISHELL process allowed me to extend the 
 directory to resolve the problem.  When the day is quiet I 
 will try the unmounting and mounting trick to see if the 
 space gets cleaned up.  The confighfs command returns that it 
 is not mounted as HFS and there are no entries in the parmlib 
 so I would conclude that it probably is a TFS filesystem.
 
 Thanks again for your quick responses!  
 
 PS For additional reading on the topic I recommend the ABCs 
 volume 9 manual :-)
 
  
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 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 Tracy,
 
 Did you do a 'ls -la /tmp' to make sure also hidden files 
 (ie. starting with a '.') are shown?
 We use TFS for /tmp and doing umount / remount normally works 
 perfectly to clean it up...
 
 Regards,
 
 Erik.
 
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 Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Namens Adams, Tracy
 Verzonden: vrijdag 21 januari 2011 14:34
 Aan: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Onderwerp: /tmp space is full
 
 
 
 First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than 
 using the basic set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we 
 have never had to touch it.  Now we are developing an app 
 that may keep the mainframe around a long time that provides 
 and consumes Web Services.
 
 Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out 
 what is taking the space.  Using the LS command there are 
 only about 5 files in there and they are smal 30-50 blocks(?) 
 apiece of the 28000 that are allocated.  The syslog file is 
 there also but when I cat that there only is a hand full of 
 records in there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A.  How do 
 tell what is allocated that space and/or 2 how can I make 
 /tmp larger on the fly?
 
 TIA,
 
 Tracy
 
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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Craig Pace
Tracy,

If you do not have a mount point for /tmp in your BPXPRMxx parmlib 
member(s), then that means you have it under the root which is not a good 
idea at all.  You can issue the MVS command D OMVS to validate what active 
BPXPRMxx member(s) you are running off of.  Then from there you can see if 
you have a mount point MOUNTPOINT('/tmp') for your /tmp directory and 
determine what type it is, if there.  If not there, I would create a mount 
point for /tmp and I would recommand a TFS since it does clean itself up 
automatically.


Thanks,

Craig Pace





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Thanks all.  The ISHELL process allowed me to extend the directory to 
resolve the problem.  When the day is quiet I will try the unmounting and 
mounting trick to see if the space gets cleaned up.  The confighfs command 
returns that it is not mounted as HFS and there are no entries in the 
parmlib so I would conclude that it probably is a TFS filesystem.

Thanks again for your quick responses! 

PS For additional reading on the topic I recommend the ABCs volume 9 
manual :-)

 
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Behalf Of Erik Janssen
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:24 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

Tracy,

Did you do a 'ls -la /tmp' to make sure also hidden files (ie. starting 
with a '.') are shown?
We use TFS for /tmp and doing umount / remount normally works perfectly to 
clean it up...

Regards,

Erik.

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Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Namens 
Adams, Tracy
Verzonden: vrijdag 21 januari 2011 14:34
Aan: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Onderwerp: /tmp space is full



First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the 
basic set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch 
it.  Now we are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a 
long time that provides and consumes Web Services.

Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is 
taking the space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in 
there and they are smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are 
allocated.  The syslog file is there also but when I cat that there only 
is a hand full of records in there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A. 
How do tell what is allocated that space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp 
larger on the fly?

TIA,

Tracy

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Adams, Tracy
Here is the out put of the command:

# df -v /tmp
Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
/SYSTEM/tmp(OMVS.SYSA.TMP)   28518/576004294967265 Available
ZFS, Read/Write, Device:3, ACLS=Y
Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
Aggregate Name : OMVS.SYSA.TMP 



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If you're curious, use df -v /tmp to find out if it is TFS. Ours is.

df -v /tmp/
Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
/SYSTEM/tmp(/tmp)177416/204800  22177  Available
TFS, Read/Write, Device:2, ACLS=Y
-s 100
Filetag : T=off   codeset=0

===

df -v /home/tsh009
Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
/home/tsh009   (TSSPV.HOME.LIH1.TSH009.ZFS) 116210/820800  4294963302 Available
ZFS, Read/Write, Device:73, ACLS=Y, No SUID
FSFULL(70,10)
Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
Aggregate Name : TSSPV.HOME.LIH1.TSH009.ZFS

===

df -v /etc/
Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
/SYSTEM/etc(OMVS.I16RS1.LIH1.ETC)912/6912   4294967007 Available
HFS, Read/Write, Device:5, ACLS=Y
Filetag : T=off   codeset=0

===

First is TFS, second is zFS, third is HFS.

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 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:56 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
  
 Thanks all.  The ISHELL process allowed me to extend the 
 directory to resolve the problem.  When the day is quiet I 
 will try the unmounting and mounting trick to see if the 
 space gets cleaned up.  The confighfs command returns that it 
 is not mounted as HFS and there are no entries in the parmlib 
 so I would conclude that it probably is a TFS filesystem.
 
 Thanks again for your quick responses!  
 
 PS For additional reading on the topic I recommend the ABCs 
 volume 9 manual :-)
 
  
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Erik Janssen
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:24 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full
 
 Tracy,
 
 Did you do a 'ls -la /tmp' to make sure also hidden files 
 (ie. starting with a '.') are shown?
 We use TFS for /tmp and doing umount / remount normally works 
 perfectly to clean it up...
 
 Regards,
 
 Erik.
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Namens Adams, Tracy
 Verzonden: vrijdag 21 januari 2011 14:34
 Aan: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Onderwerp: /tmp space is full
 
 
 
 First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than 
 using the basic set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we 
 have never had to touch it.  Now we are developing an app 
 that may keep the mainframe around a long time that provides 
 and consumes Web Services.
 
 Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out 
 what is taking the space.  Using the LS command there are 
 only about 5 files in there and they are smal 30-50 blocks(?) 
 apiece of the 28000 that are allocated.  The syslog file is 
 there also but when I cat that there only is a hand full of 
 records in there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A.  How do 
 tell what is allocated that space and/or 2 how can I make 
 /tmp larger on the fly?
 
 TIA,
 
 Tracy
 
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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Adams, Tracy
I do not have a mount of /tmp in my active BPXPRMxx member.  Actually there is 
no mounts at all in the member.  I do have OMVS. Datasets for all the old 
reliables... var, etc/ tmp

# df -v /tmp
Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
/SYSTEM/tmp(OMVS.SYSA.TMP)   28518/576004294967265 Available
ZFS, Read/Write, Device:3, ACLS=Y
Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
Aggregate Name : OMVS.SYSA.TMP



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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

Tracy,

If you do not have a mount point for /tmp in your BPXPRMxx parmlib 
member(s), then that means you have it under the root which is not a good 
idea at all.  You can issue the MVS command D OMVS to validate what active 
BPXPRMxx member(s) you are running off of.  Then from there you can see if 
you have a mount point MOUNTPOINT('/tmp') for your /tmp directory and 
determine what type it is, if there.  If not there, I would create a mount 
point for /tmp and I would recommand a TFS since it does clean itself up 
automatically.


Thanks,

Craig Pace





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Thanks all.  The ISHELL process allowed me to extend the directory to 
resolve the problem.  When the day is quiet I will try the unmounting and 
mounting trick to see if the space gets cleaned up.  The confighfs command 
returns that it is not mounted as HFS and there are no entries in the 
parmlib so I would conclude that it probably is a TFS filesystem.

Thanks again for your quick responses! 

PS For additional reading on the topic I recommend the ABCs volume 9 
manual :-)

 
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On 
Behalf Of Erik Janssen
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:24 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

Tracy,

Did you do a 'ls -la /tmp' to make sure also hidden files (ie. starting 
with a '.') are shown?
We use TFS for /tmp and doing umount / remount normally works perfectly to 
clean it up...

Regards,

Erik.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Namens 
Adams, Tracy
Verzonden: vrijdag 21 januari 2011 14:34
Aan: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Onderwerp: /tmp space is full



First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the 
basic set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch 
it.  Now we are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a 
long time that provides and consumes Web Services.

Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is 
taking the space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in 
there and they are smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are 
allocated.  The syslog file is there also but when I cat that there only 
is a hand full of records in there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A. 
How do tell what is allocated that space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp 
larger on the fly?

TIA,

Tracy

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Rob Schramm
Tracy,

If that is the display for /tmp then it is ZFS, I would go with one of the
prior posters suggestion about zfsadm grow.

Rob Schramm

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Adams, Tracy tad...@cvps.com wrote:

 I do not have a mount of /tmp in my active BPXPRMxx member.  Actually there
 is no mounts at all in the member.  I do have OMVS. Datasets for all the old
 reliables... var, etc/ tmp

 # df -v /tmp
 Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
 /SYSTEM/tmp(OMVS.SYSA.TMP)   28518/576004294967265
 Available
 ZFS, Read/Write, Device:3, ACLS=Y
 Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
 Aggregate Name : OMVS.SYSA.TMP



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 Behalf Of Craig Pace
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:07 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

 Tracy,

 If you do not have a mount point for /tmp in your BPXPRMxx parmlib
 member(s), then that means you have it under the root which is not a good
 idea at all.  You can issue the MVS command D OMVS to validate what active
 BPXPRMxx member(s) you are running off of.  Then from there you can see if
 you have a mount point MOUNTPOINT('/tmp') for your /tmp directory and
 determine what type it is, if there.  If not there, I would create a mount
 point for /tmp and I would recommand a TFS since it does clean itself up
 automatically.


 Thanks,

 Craig Pace





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 Thanks all.  The ISHELL process allowed me to extend the directory to
 resolve the problem.  When the day is quiet I will try the unmounting and
 mounting trick to see if the space gets cleaned up.  The confighfs command
 returns that it is not mounted as HFS and there are no entries in the
 parmlib so I would conclude that it probably is a TFS filesystem.

 Thanks again for your quick responses!

 PS For additional reading on the topic I recommend the ABCs volume 9
 manual :-)


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 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:24 AM
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 Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

 Tracy,

 Did you do a 'ls -la /tmp' to make sure also hidden files (ie. starting
 with a '.') are shown?
 We use TFS for /tmp and doing umount / remount normally works perfectly to
 clean it up...

 Regards,

 Erik.

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 Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Namens
 Adams, Tracy
 Verzonden: vrijdag 21 januari 2011 14:34
 Aan: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Onderwerp: /tmp space is full



 First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the
 basic set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch
 it.  Now we are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a
 long time that provides and consumes Web Services.

 Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is
 taking the space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in
 there and they are smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are
 allocated.  The syslog file is there also but when I cat that there only
 is a hand full of records in there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A.
 How do tell what is allocated that space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp
 larger on the fly?

 TIA,

 Tracy

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Re: /tmp space is full

2011-01-21 Thread Neubert, Kevin
That's peculiar.  Your display seems to indicate otherwise.  In addition to the 
mentioned D OMVS are you looking at the right members?  See D PARMLIB for your 
particular concatenation.  I cannot imagine this, but do you have something 
like /usr/sbin/mount -t ZFS -f OMVS.SYSA.TMP automated somewhere?

Maybe D IPLINFO and D OMVS,F,N=VSAM.ZFS.OACT.TMP to glean the timing, etc.

Regards,

Kevin

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Adams, Tracy
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

I do not have a mount of /tmp in my active BPXPRMxx member.  Actually there is 
no mounts at all in the member.  I do have OMVS. Datasets for all the old 
reliables... var, etc/ tmp

# df -v /tmp
Mounted on FilesystemAvail/TotalFiles  Status
/SYSTEM/tmp(OMVS.SYSA.TMP)   28518/576004294967265 Available
ZFS, Read/Write, Device:3, ACLS=Y
Filetag : T=off   codeset=0
Aggregate Name : OMVS.SYSA.TMP



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Craig Pace
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:07 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

Tracy,

If you do not have a mount point for /tmp in your BPXPRMxx parmlib 
member(s), then that means you have it under the root which is not a good 
idea at all.  You can issue the MVS command D OMVS to validate what active 
BPXPRMxx member(s) you are running off of.  Then from there you can see if 
you have a mount point MOUNTPOINT('/tmp') for your /tmp directory and 
determine what type it is, if there.  If not there, I would create a mount 
point for /tmp and I would recommand a TFS since it does clean itself up 
automatically.


Thanks,

Craig Pace





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Thanks all.  The ISHELL process allowed me to extend the directory to 
resolve the problem.  When the day is quiet I will try the unmounting and 
mounting trick to see if the space gets cleaned up.  The confighfs command 
returns that it is not mounted as HFS and there are no entries in the 
parmlib so I would conclude that it probably is a TFS filesystem.

Thanks again for your quick responses! 

PS For additional reading on the topic I recommend the ABCs volume 9 
manual :-)

 
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On 
Behalf Of Erik Janssen
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:24 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: /tmp space is full

Tracy,

Did you do a 'ls -la /tmp' to make sure also hidden files (ie. starting 
with a '.') are shown?
We use TFS for /tmp and doing umount / remount normally works perfectly to 
clean it up...

Regards,

Erik.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Namens 
Adams, Tracy
Verzonden: vrijdag 21 januari 2011 14:34
Aan: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Onderwerp: /tmp space is full



First of let me apologize for my OMVS ignorance.  Other than using the 
basic set it and forget it parameters of OMVS we have never had to touch 
it.  Now we are developing an app that may keep the mainframe around a 
long time that provides and consumes Web Services.

Long story short, my /tmp file is full and I cant figure out what is 
taking the space.  Using the LS command there are only about 5 files in 
there and they are smal 30-50 blocks(?) apiece of the 28000 that are 
allocated.  The syslog file is there also but when I cat that there only 
is a hand full of records in there.  Other than that I see nothing.  A. 
How do tell what is allocated that space and/or 2 how can I make /tmp 
larger on the fly?

TIA,

Tracy

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