Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-16 Thread Linda Mooney
Great tip!  



Thanks, 



Linda 
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For a given folder, select VIEW/CHOOSE DETAILS... from the toolbar and 
check the TITLE box. 

Regards, 
John K 

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 04/15/2009 
07:37:25 AM: 

> Can you explain this a little more? I am feeling especially dense today. 
:) 
> 
> Don Johnson 
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> 
> In Windows Explorer I add 'Title' to the Explorer windows property. 
Every 
> book I've downloaded had the correct Title already defined. 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tom Marchant 
wrote: 
> 
> > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote: 
> > 
> > >Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go 
> > >to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested 
> > >in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them 
> > >somewhat meaningful names like "zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf" 
> > >instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do? 
> > > 
> > >I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you 
> > >can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found 
> > >a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the 
> > >titles by the file names.  See this web page I created: 
> > > 
> > >  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html 
> > > 
> > >I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started 
> > >searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a 
> > >directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions? 
> > 
> > This has been discussed here several times before. 
> > 
> > What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the 
> > extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy 
> > Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read. 
> > 
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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-16 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Subject: Downloading IBM manuals

Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go to the IBM
library page and download each manual I'm interested in (i.e. most in
the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them somewhat meaningful names
like "zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf" instead of iea2e291.pdf for
example.  What do you do?   



I do the same thing, but I leave the "IBM" name as the first characters.
I have asked, and was roundly shot down by someone at IBM, that perhaps
there should be some way to make this friendly.

The thinking is, there are links in the manuals to other of IBM's
manuals, and renaming breaks those. If Acrobat and IBM could get things
to come together, the link would search for the first 8 characters...

[Since I was out of the office yesterday, you watch that someone else
has already posted something similar...]

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:11:27 -0700, David Alcock wrote:
>
>I wish IBM would make it easier to download by bookshelf.

Have you tried using the Softcopy Librarian?

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Hal Merritt
They did. The Softcopy Librarian product that Tom spoke about is about as 
painless as it gets. A couple of keystrokes, and go home while gigabytes of 
books congest the company network.  

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>   http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html 
>

If you tried to go to that link and it failed, try again.  My web provider 
looks to have changed owners and possibly data centers.   There's nothing 
terribly exciting there.  I think I'll try Bruno's method tonight. 

I wish IBM would make it easier to download by bookshelf.  

 

 
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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Gibney, Dave
   As below, Softcopy Librarian. Just get'em all. I even brought the
VSE's down last time just in case some cost saving idea needs refuting
or support?

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University

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> Behalf Of Tom Marchant
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:26 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Downloading IBM manuals
> 
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote:
> 
> >Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go
> >to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested
> >in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them
> >somewhat meaningful names like "zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf"
> >instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?
> >
> >I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you
> >can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found
> >a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the
> >titles by the file names.  See this web page I created:
> >
> >  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html
> >
> >I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
> >searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
> >directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?
> 
> This has been discussed here several times before.
> 
> What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the
> extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy
> Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read.
> 
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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread David Alcock
>   http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html 
>

If you tried to go to that link and it failed, try again.  My web provider 
looks to have changed owners and possibly data centers.   There's nothing 
terribly exciting there.  I think I'll try Bruno's method tonight. 

I wish IBM would make it easier to download by bookshelf.  

 

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Wilkins, Mike
I do basically the same as Bruno.

I save the r9pdf.htm page, replace the hyperlinks with the dir path
containing the manuals, then download all manuals into the same dir
keeping the original name.  Works great, AND, you can search the entire
(r9pdf.html) page to look for what you want.
Also, depending on the version of Adobe, you can also search within all
manuals looking for what you want (in extreme cases).

Mike Wilkins 
Accenture 

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Behalf Of David Alcock
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Downloading IBM manuals

Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go to the IBM
library page and download each manual I'm interested in (i.e. most in
the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them somewhat meaningful names
like "zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf" instead of iea2e291.pdf for
example.  What do you do?   

I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you can
easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found a PDF
library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the titles by
the file names.  See this web page I created: 

  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html

I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions? 

 

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Wow! Thanks John very much for that excellent tidbit. Sure never occurred to 
me...

Robert

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> For a given folder, select VIEW/CHOOSE DETAILS... from the toolbar and
> check the TITLE box.
> 
> Regards,
> John K
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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread John P Kalinich
For a given folder, select VIEW/CHOOSE DETAILS... from the toolbar and 
check the TITLE box.

Regards,
John K

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 04/15/2009 
07:37:25 AM:

> Can you explain this a little more? I am feeling especially dense today. 
:)
> 
> Don Johnson
> CA
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> Subject: Re: Downloading IBM manuals
> 
> In Windows Explorer I add 'Title' to the Explorer windows property. 
Every
> book I've downloaded had the correct Title already defined.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tom Marchant 
wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote:
> >
> > >Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go
> > >to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested
> > >in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them
> > >somewhat meaningful names like "zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf"
> > >instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?
> > >
> > >I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you
> > >can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found
> > >a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the
> > >titles by the file names.  See this web page I created:
> > >
> > >  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html
> > >
> > >I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
> > >searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
> > >directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?
> >
> > This has been discussed here several times before.
> >
> > What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the
> > extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy
> > Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read.
> >
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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Johnson Jr., Donald E
Can you explain this a little more? I am feeling especially dense today. :)

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Mark Pace
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Downloading IBM manuals

In Windows Explorer I add 'Title' to the Explorer windows property.  Every
book I've downloaded had the correct Title already defined.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote:
>
> >Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go
> >to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested
> >in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them
> >somewhat meaningful names like "zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf"
> >instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?
> >
> >I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you
> >can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found
> >a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the
> >titles by the file names.  See this web page I created:
> >
> >  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html
> >
> >I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
> >searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
> >directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?
>
> This has been discussed here several times before.
>
> What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the
> extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy
> Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read.
>
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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Pace
In Windows Explorer I add 'Title' to the Explorer windows property.  Every
book I've downloaded had the correct Title already defined.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote:
>
> >Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go
> >to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested
> >in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them
> >somewhat meaningful names like "zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf"
> >instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?
> >
> >I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you
> >can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found
> >a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the
> >titles by the file names.  See this web page I created:
> >
> >  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html
> >
> >I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
> >searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
> >directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?
>
> This has been discussed here several times before.
>
> What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the
> extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy
> Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read.
>
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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote:

>Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go 
>to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested 
>in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them 
>somewhat meaningful names like "zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf" 
>instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?
>
>I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you 
>can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found 
>a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the 
>titles by the file names.  See this web page I created:
>
>  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html
>
>I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started 
>searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a 
>directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?

This has been discussed here several times before.

What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the
extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy
Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read.

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 02:18 -0500, Bruno Sugliani wrote:

> What about using the r10pdf.htm provided by IBM ?
> Just modifying the source (replacing http:// etc by the real path on the
> directory )

This can be done from the web as well, and is (effectively) what I do.
I have a (Linux) bash script that I use to pull the index page, and
strip out what I want - the hrefs and the tables. That way I get an
updated index page with sensible manual names without any effort.
Then it diffs my previous index.html, and generates a file that gets fed
into wget to pull new/updated manuals. Unfortunately relies on the dash
level of the manual number to determine updates - and sometimes IBM
don't bother updating the dash level.
Handy to have a script I can just fire off every so often to get updates
automagically.

Shane ...

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Bruno Sugliani
What about using the r10pdf.htm provided by IBM ?
Just modifying the source (replacing http:// etc by the real path on the
directory )
For years we have been copying the CD content with its html index onto a HFS
on 3390 and using SMB to put it online.
This way there is one single copy and you can access from any desktop PC in
your shop or even via VPN from outside if you are called at night.
When new books are coming you just do a copy/paste from the PC where the
download took place.(not even needed to FTP)
Of course the HFS on z/OS is 755 protected and available for write to only a
pair of users.
You can use the same DASD for your lookat book format libraries and your pdf
books.
after all we are the masters of centralised data processing :-))
( the best thing about all that is to always have access to your books from
any location in your company and use the same index pointing to the books).
Bruno Sugliani 
zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr
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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-14 Thread Alan Young
David Alcock wrote:
> I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you
> can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found
> a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the
> titles by the file name.  See this web page I created:
>
>  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html
>
> I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
> searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
> directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?

There's a nifty option in DTA that will do that for you.  Change the
renaming mask from  *name*.*ext*  to  *text* *name*.*ext* and DTA
will put the link description in front of the unhelpful filename.
In the zOS Internet Library, the descriptions are the text in of the
link.  For example, "iea2u100.pdf" becomes  "z/OS V1R9.0 MVS Capacity
Provisioning User's Guide iea2u100.pdf".  The only problem with that
is it breaks the embedded PDF links.  That's fixable on a unix system
with symlinks.  You might be able to fix it on a Windows system with
a NTFS link helper utility, but I haven't tried.

Alan

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Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-14 Thread David Alcock
Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go to the IBM 
library page and download each manual I'm interested in (i.e. most in the MVS 
bookshelf) one at a time and give them somewhat meaningful names like "zos 110 
init and tuning ref.pdf" instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?  
 

I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you can easily 
get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found a PDF library for 
Python that is easy enough to use to display the titles by the file names.  See 
this web page I created: 

  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html

I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started searching for 
some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a directory but have been 
unlucky so far.  Any suggestions? 

 

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