Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-23 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Tom asked off-list whether this problem had been resolved. Alas it has not.
It would appear that we have very old datasets with very small blocksizes which 
were migrated from 3380s.
Our h/w vendor tells us that we cannot re-configure a single volume to 3380 
without configuring an entire array. That is not going to happen.
Fortunately the user has decided to proceed without the data. It was being 
migrated off of the mainframe so it is questionable whether it is actually 
needed.

The suggestion to use daoption(relblk) failed as the data is not FB.
All other options failed due to track capacity exceeded.

We may ask our DR provider to configure a 3380 at our next test and attempt to 
recover this data. 

Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Thanks Tom but no dice, got the following:
ARC1118I reas - 16

16The data set record format must be fixed or fixed-blocked when
  using DAOPTION(RELBLK).

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:18:12 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote:

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current track 
capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is knowledgeable of 
what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.

Continuing with the assumption that the error is caused because the blocksize 
is very
small so that not as many blocks can fit on a track as were on the original 
3380, have
you tried telling HRECALL to recall the data logically, without trying to 
recall track images?
I looked in DFSMShsm Managing Your Own Data and I see DAOPTION(RELBLK) for
non-SMS data sets.  Perhaps that will help.

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Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
A recall of the first dataset listed below results in
ARC1113I I/O ERROR WRITING PRIMARY COPY

Explanation:  While DFSMShsm was writing the primary copy of a data set
during a recall or recovery operation, an I/O error occurred or invalid
data was found. If an I/O error occurred an access method or hardware
error message should precede this message or be found in the DFSMShsm job
log SYSMSG data set.

Message ARC1001I also precedes this message, giving the operation in
process, the name of the data set, and a reason code.

Reascode  Meaning
8 Direct access data records exceed the track capacity of the
  output device.

Attempting to recover the backup with a rename results in

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current track 
capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is knowledgeable of 
what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.

TIA,
Dave O'Brien

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread Staller, Allan
3380/3390 conflict? Might have to define a mod-3 in 3380 compat mode.
Check the ICKDSF manuals

HTH,

snip
A recall of the first dataset listed below results in
ARC1113I I/O ERROR WRITING PRIMARY COPY

Explanation:  While DFSMShsm was writing the primary copy of a data set
during a recall or recovery operation, an I/O error occurred or invalid
data was found. If an I/O error occurred an access method or hardware
error message should precede this message or be found in the DFSMShsm
job
log SYSMSG data set.

Message ARC1001I also precedes this message, giving the operation in
process, the name of the data set, and a reason code.

Reascode  Meaning
8 Direct access data records exceed the track capacity of the
  output device.

Attempting to recover the backup with a rename results in

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current
track capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is
knowledgeable of what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.
/snip

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread Darth Keller
Dave - 

You didn't provide the commands you used, but based on the REAS=0168, I'd 
suggest specifying  the UNIT(unittype) on your command  if necessary, the 
VOLUME(volser) parameter.  If it was migrated from a 3380, the recall  
recover are probably still trying to use that unit type  you need to 
over-ride it.

HTH's
ddk

///


A recall of the first dataset listed below results in
ARC1113I I/O ERROR WRITING PRIMARY COPY

Explanation:  While DFSMShsm was writing the primary copy of a data set
during a recall or recovery operation, an I/O error occurred or invalid
data was found. If an I/O error occurred an access method or hardware
error message should precede this message or be found in the DFSMShsm job
log SYSMSG data set.

Message ARC1001I also precedes this message, giving the operation in
process, the name of the data set, and a reason code.

Reascode  Meaning
8 Direct access data records exceed the track capacity of the
  output device.

Attempting to recover the backup with a rename results in

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current track 
capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is knowledgeable 
of what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.

TIA,
Dave O'Brien

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread Paolo Cacciari
Allan,

probably HSM is trying to restore your dataset into its original VOLUME, 
and this volume is no more active in
your configuration. Try to supply a VOLSER to HSM to relocate the dataset 
on another dasd.

HTH


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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Thanks Darth,

I had tried unit volume parameters with the same result.

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Dave - 

You didn't provide the commands you used, but based on the REAS=0168, I'd 
suggest specifying  the UNIT(unittype) on your command  if necessary, the 
VOLUME(volser) parameter.  If it was migrated from a 3380, the recall  
recover are probably still trying to use that unit type  you need to 
over-ride it.

HTH's
ddk

///


A recall of the first dataset listed below results in
ARC1113I I/O ERROR WRITING PRIMARY COPY

Explanation:  While DFSMShsm was writing the primary copy of a data set
during a recall or recovery operation, an I/O error occurred or invalid
data was found. If an I/O error occurred an access method or hardware
error message should precede this message or be found in the DFSMShsm job
log SYSMSG data set.

Message ARC1001I also precedes this message, giving the operation in
process, the name of the data set, and a reason code.

Reascode  Meaning
8 Direct access data records exceed the track capacity of the
  output device.

Attempting to recover the backup with a rename results in

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current track 
capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is knowledgeable 
of what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.

TIA,
Dave O'Brien

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Thanks Allan,

I'll look into the possible 3390 compatibility issue.

I had discounted it since the devtype that shows up in listcat is the same as 
for recalls that are working.

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Subject: Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

3380/3390 conflict? Might have to define a mod-3 in 3380 compat mode.
Check the ICKDSF manuals

HTH,

snip
A recall of the first dataset listed below results in
ARC1113I I/O ERROR WRITING PRIMARY COPY

Explanation:  While DFSMShsm was writing the primary copy of a data set
during a recall or recovery operation, an I/O error occurred or invalid
data was found. If an I/O error occurred an access method or hardware
error message should precede this message or be found in the DFSMShsm
job
log SYSMSG data set.

Message ARC1001I also precedes this message, giving the operation in
process, the name of the data set, and a reason code.

Reascode  Meaning
8 Direct access data records exceed the track capacity of the
  output device.

Attempting to recover the backup with a rename results in

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current
track capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is
knowledgeable of what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.
/snip

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:18:12 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote:

Message ARC1001I also precedes this message, giving the operation in
process, the name of the data set, and a reason code.

Reascode  Meaning
8 Direct access data records exceed the track capacity of the
  output device.

Attempting to recover the backup with a rename results in

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current track 
capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is knowledgeable of 
what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.

If the data set originally resided on a 3380 and it has a very small blocksize, 
you might see this.  For example, if it has a blocksize of 80, a 3380 track 
will hold 83 blocks but a 3390 will only hold 78.

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Tom, Allan,

I'm getting the following trying to test your suggestions:

INSTALL UNIT(1091) VFY(NW1091) SETMODE(3380)
ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 1091 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:   
  PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 
  STORAGE CONTROLLER = 2105  
  STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E8
  DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A 
  ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 4A35   
  TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339   
ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE 
ICK00091I 1091 NED=002105.   .HTC.65.00045342
ICK03091I EXISTING VOLUME SERIAL READ = NW1091   
ICK31054I DEVICE NOT SUPPORTED FOR THE SPECIFIED FUNCTION
ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  
  11:12:5709/20/11   

Am I missing something or is this a no-go given my hardware?

The address 1091 is currently a 3390 mod-3 on a HDS 9990V marketed by 
Oracle/Sun/STK.

Thanks,
Dave O'Brien

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From: Tom Marchant [mailto:m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:18:12 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote:

Message ARC1001I also precedes this message, giving the operation in
process, the name of the data set, and a reason code.

Reascode  Meaning
8 Direct access data records exceed the track capacity of the
  output device.

Attempting to recover the backup with a rename results in

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current track 
capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is knowledgeable of 
what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.

If the data set originally resided on a 3380 and it has a very small blocksize, 
you might see this.  For example, if it has a blocksize of 80, a 3380 track 
will hold 83 blocks but a 3390 will only hold 78.

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread Staller, Allan
Looks like you need to use the INSTALL command, not the INIT command.

See  2.1.1.3 Setting an IBM 3390 to 3380 track compatibility mode in
GC35-0033-25 (ICKDSF R17 dated 12-14-02)

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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

Tom, Allan,

I'm getting the following trying to test your suggestions:

INSTALL UNIT(1091) VFY(NW1091) SETMODE(3380)
ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 1091 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:   
  PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 
  STORAGE CONTROLLER = 2105  
  STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E8
  DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A 
  ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 4A35   
  TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339   
ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE 
ICK00091I 1091 NED=002105.   .HTC.65.00045342
ICK03091I EXISTING VOLUME SERIAL READ = NW1091   
ICK31054I DEVICE NOT SUPPORTED FOR THE SPECIFIED FUNCTION
ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  
  11:12:5709/20/11   

Am I missing something or is this a no-go given my hardware?

The address 1091 is currently a 3390 mod-3 on a HDS 9990V marketed by
Oracle/Sun/STK.

Thanks,
Dave O'Brien

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From: Tom Marchant [mailto:m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:18:12 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
wrote:

Message ARC1001I also precedes this message, giving the operation in
process, the name of the data set, and a reason code.

Reascode  Meaning
8 Direct access data records exceed the track capacity of the
  output device.

Attempting to recover the backup with a rename results in

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current
track capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is
knowledgeable of what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.

If the data set originally resided on a 3380 and it has a very small
blocksize, you might see this.  For example, if it has a blocksize of
80, a 3380 track will hold 83 blocks but a 3390 will only hold 78.

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread Matthew Stitt
Tom, Allan,

I'm getting the following trying to test your suggestions:

INSTALL UNIT(1091) VFY(NW1091) SETMODE(3380)
I would say you need to reconfigure the volume in the HDS 9990V as a 3380 
first, then initialize it.

-
ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 1091 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:   
  PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 
  STORAGE CONTROLLER = 2105  
  STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E8
  DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A 
  ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 4A35   
  TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339   
ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE 
ICK00091I 1091 NED=002105.   .HTC.65.00045342
ICK03091I EXISTING VOLUME SERIAL READ = NW1091   
ICK31054I DEVICE NOT SUPPORTED FOR THE SPECIFIED FUNCTION
ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  
  11:12:5709/20/11   

Am I missing something or is this a no-go given my hardware?

The address 1091 is currently a 3390 mod-3 on a HDS 9990V marketed by 
Oracle/Sun/STK.

Thanks,
Dave O'Brien

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Allan,

I did use the Install command, see first line of output.

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Subject: Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

Looks like you need to use the INSTALL command, not the INIT command.

See  2.1.1.3 Setting an IBM 3390 to 3380 track compatibility mode in
GC35-0033-25 (ICKDSF R17 dated 12-14-02)

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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

Tom, Allan,

I'm getting the following trying to test your suggestions:

INSTALL UNIT(1091) VFY(NW1091) SETMODE(3380)
ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 1091 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:   
  PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 
  STORAGE CONTROLLER = 2105  
  STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E8
  DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A 
  ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 4A35   
  TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339   
ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE 
ICK00091I 1091 NED=002105.   .HTC.65.00045342
ICK03091I EXISTING VOLUME SERIAL READ = NW1091   
ICK31054I DEVICE NOT SUPPORTED FOR THE SPECIFIED FUNCTION
ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  
  11:12:5709/20/11   

Am I missing something or is this a no-go given my hardware?

The address 1091 is currently a 3390 mod-3 on a HDS 9990V marketed by
Oracle/Sun/STK.

Thanks,
Dave O'Brien

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From: Tom Marchant [mailto:m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:18:12 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
wrote:

Message ARC1001I also precedes this message, giving the operation in
process, the name of the data set, and a reason code.

Reascode  Meaning
8 Direct access data records exceed the track capacity of the
  output device.

Attempting to recover the backup with a rename results in

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current
track capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is
knowledgeable of what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.

If the data set originally resided on a 3380 and it has a very small
blocksize, you might see this.  For example, if it has a blocksize of
80, a 3380 track will hold 83 blocks but a 3390 will only hold 78.

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread Staller, Allan
The message text for ICK31054I DEVICE NOT SUPPORTED FOR THE SPECIFIED
FUNCTION 

 

Will refer you to 1.1.4 Devices supported by ICKDSF

Which indicates in table 12 that the INSTALL command is not supported on
CU type 2105

 

You might try INIT UNIT(1091) VFY(NW1091)  ..DEVTYPE(3380)..
Not sure if this will work, but it's worth a try

 

After that I would go to IBM and/or Oracle...

 

HTH,

 

snip

I'm getting the following trying to test your suggestions:

 

INSTALL UNIT(1091) VFY(NW1091) SETMODE(3380)

ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 1091 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:   

  PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 

  STORAGE CONTROLLER = 2105  

  STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E8

  DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A 

  ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 4A35   

  TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339   

ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE 

ICK00091I 1091 NED=002105.   .HTC.65.00045342

ICK03091I EXISTING VOLUME SERIAL READ = NW1091   

ICK31054I DEVICE NOT SUPPORTED FOR THE SPECIFIED FUNCTION

ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  

  11:12:5709/20/11  

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Allan,

Specifying devtype seems to have worked. Thank You.
Now I'll see if I can recall the datasets.

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From: Staller, Allan [mailto:allan.stal...@kbmg.com] 
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The message text for ICK31054I DEVICE NOT SUPPORTED FOR THE SPECIFIED
FUNCTION 

 

Will refer you to 1.1.4 Devices supported by ICKDSF

Which indicates in table 12 that the INSTALL command is not supported on
CU type 2105

 

You might try INIT UNIT(1091) VFY(NW1091)  ..DEVTYPE(3380)..
Not sure if this will work, but it's worth a try

 

After that I would go to IBM and/or Oracle...

 

HTH,

 

snip

I'm getting the following trying to test your suggestions:

 

INSTALL UNIT(1091) VFY(NW1091) SETMODE(3380)

ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 1091 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:   

  PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 

  STORAGE CONTROLLER = 2105  

  STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E8

  DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A 

  ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 4A35   

  TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 3339   

ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE 

ICK00091I 1091 NED=002105.   .HTC.65.00045342

ICK03091I EXISTING VOLUME SERIAL READ = NW1091   

ICK31054I DEVICE NOT SUPPORTED FOR THE SPECIFIED FUNCTION

ICK30003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  

  11:12:5709/20/11  

/snip

 


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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:18:12 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote:

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current track 
capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is knowledgeable of 
what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.

Continuing with the assumption that the error is caused because the blocksize 
is very 
small so that not as many blocks can fit on a track as were on the original 
3380, have 
you tried telling HRECALL to recall the data logically, without trying to 
recall track images?  
I looked in DFSMShsm Managing Your Own Data and I see DAOPTION(RELBLK) for 
non-SMS data sets.  Perhaps that will help.

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Re: Problem with HSM Recalls

2011-09-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Thanks Tom but no dice, got the following:
ARC1118I reas - 16

16The data set record format must be fixed or fixed-blocked when
  using DAOPTION(RELBLK).   

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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:51 PM
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:18:12 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote:

ARC1001I SYSMGT.D93132.N001606 RECOVER FAILED, RC=0008, REAS=0168
ARC1108I ERROR CATALOGING DATA SET

The data was migrated in the early 90's, I don't see how the current track 
capacity could be exceeded. Of course no one is here who is knowledgeable of 
what was done.
I'm open to suggestions.

Continuing with the assumption that the error is caused because the blocksize 
is very 
small so that not as many blocks can fit on a track as were on the original 
3380, have 
you tried telling HRECALL to recall the data logically, without trying to 
recall track images?  
I looked in DFSMShsm Managing Your Own Data and I see DAOPTION(RELBLK) for 
non-SMS data sets.  Perhaps that will help.

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