Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/23/2005
   at 02:13 PM, Richard Verville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I am attempting to LOAD a program which resides in a concatenation of
>a ddname. I coded the DCB paramater to route the load accordingly.
>For some reason, if the library is first on the concatenation it
>works fine, underwise I can a not found condition, and the same
>happens with the BLDL macro. Is this problem related to my DCB coding
>?

That sounds like a bad directory in one of the other libraries.
 
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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/23/2005
   at 01:48 PM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Interestingly enough, IBM fixed that several years ago: BPAM now uses
>the longest BLKSIZE, rather than the first.  (But does CS use BPAM?)

No. Nor does it use BLKSIZE ;-)
 
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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Charles Mills 
Thanks. I missed that. I knew it had not burned me in about 10 years.
That must be why. 

Charles

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>if the subsequent concatenations
had BLKSIZEs greater than the first. You could try coding
BLKSIZE= on the
first DD. ...

That has NOT been required since ESA 3.1.0e

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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL 
>if the subsequent concatenations
had BLKSIZEs greater than the first. You could try coding
BLKSIZE= on the
first DD.
...

That has NOT been required since ESA 3.1.0e


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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Richard Verville 
DSORG=PO did the job. Thanks everyone for your time on this one. Richard

Paul Gilmartin wrote:

> In a recent note, Charles Mills said:
>
> > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:32:28 -0700
> >
> > Perhaps someone else knows for sure: there are or were some issues with
> > concatenations (for regular QSAM GET) if the subsequent concatenations
> > had BLKSIZEs greater than the first. You could try coding
> > BLKSIZE= on the
> > first DD.
> >
> Interestingly enough, IBM fixed that several years ago: BPAM
> now uses the longest BLKSIZE, rather than the first.  (But does
> CS use BPAM?)  Of course, there's always the possibility that
> someone later wrote to the library, overriding with a BLKSIZE
> less than the size of some block actually present in the
> library.  But even that should result in an I/O error.  (Unless
> the library is VIO.)
>
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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin 
In a recent note, Charles Mills said:

> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 11:32:28 -0700
> 
> Perhaps someone else knows for sure: there are or were some issues with
> concatenations (for regular QSAM GET) if the subsequent concatenations
> had BLKSIZEs greater than the first. You could try coding
> BLKSIZE= on the
> first DD.
> 
Interestingly enough, IBM fixed that several years ago: BPAM
now uses the longest BLKSIZE, rather than the first.  (But does
CS use BPAM?)  Of course, there's always the possibility that
someone later wrote to the library, overriding with a BLKSIZE
less than the size of some block actually present in the
library.  But even that should result in an I/O error.  (Unless
the library is VIO.)

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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Richard Verville 
Oups, it has PS not PO Richard

Binyamin Dissen wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:19:34 -0400 Richard Verville
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :>The BLDL returns retcode=4,reason=0... If the libraries are in the steplib 
> ...
> :>it works ... It's when they are not in the steplib but pointed to another
> :>ddname (pgmlist in my case) and the DCB parm is coded in the LOAD macro and
> :>the BLDL points to the PGMLIST DCB it does not get the programs if they 
> reside
> :>in the 2nd, 3rd dsname  Richard
>
> Very interesting.
>
> What does the DCB macro look like?
>
> DSORG=PO?
>
> :>Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>
> :>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:13:32 -0400 Richard Verville
> :>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :>> :>I am attempting to LOAD a program which resides in a concatenation of a
> :>> :>ddname. I coded the DCB paramater to route the load accordingly. For
> :>> :>some reason, if the library is first on the concatenation it works fine,
> :>> :>underwise I can a not found condition, and the same happens with the
> :>> :>BLDL macro. Is this problem related to my DCB coding ?
>
> :>> Unlikely.
>
> :>> What return codes are you getting from the load and BLDL?
>
> :>> Try with EXEC PGM= and the libraries as a steplib.
>
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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Richard Verville 
The ddname is opened ... I can get the load & bldl to work if the pgm resides
in the first library on the ddname... I don't know if they are pds/pdse, there
are a lot of them, until I can verify that I would it's a mix... Richard

Tom Schmidt wrote:

> Richard,
>
> The file was open before the LOAD, right?  Was the concatenation a mix of
> PDS and PDS/Es?  Or was it pure PDS (or pure PDSE)?
>
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> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:41:42 -0400, Richard Verville wrote:
> >The jcl is correct. I caused an 0C1 dump and see in the output the concat
> >addresses. If I direct the load towards the steplib (I moved the libraries
> >there) it works fine. Richard
> >
> >Charles Mills wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds unlikely to me to be the DCB.
> >>
> >> Are you sure the JCL is correct? Are you sure the load module is there?
> >> 
> >>
> >> Perhaps someone else knows for sure: there are or were some issues with
> >> concatenations (for regular QSAM GET) if the subsequent concatenations
> >> had BLKSIZEs greater than the first. You could try coding
> >> BLKSIZE= on the
> >> first DD.
> >>
> >> Charles
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richard Verville
> >>
> >> I am attempting to LOAD a program which resides in a concatenation of a
> >> ddname. I coded the DCB paramater to route the load accordingly. For
> >> some reason, if the library is first on the concatenation it works fine,
> >> underwise I can a not found condition, and the same happens with the
> >> BLDL macro. Is this problem related to my DCB coding ? Richard
>
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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen 
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:19:34 -0400 Richard Verville
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:>The BLDL returns retcode=4,reason=0... If the libraries are in the steplib ...
:>it works ... It's when they are not in the steplib but pointed to another
:>ddname (pgmlist in my case) and the DCB parm is coded in the LOAD macro and
:>the BLDL points to the PGMLIST DCB it does not get the programs if they reside
:>in the 2nd, 3rd dsname  Richard

Very interesting.

What does the DCB macro look like?

DSORG=PO?

:>Binyamin Dissen wrote:

:>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:13:32 -0400 Richard Verville
:>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:>> :>I am attempting to LOAD a program which resides in a concatenation of a
:>> :>ddname. I coded the DCB paramater to route the load accordingly. For
:>> :>some reason, if the library is first on the concatenation it works fine,
:>> :>underwise I can a not found condition, and the same happens with the
:>> :>BLDL macro. Is this problem related to my DCB coding ?

:>> Unlikely.

:>> What return codes are you getting from the load and BLDL?

:>> Try with EXEC PGM= and the libraries as a steplib.

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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Tom Schmidt 
Richard,

The file was open before the LOAD, right?  Was the concatenation a mix of
PDS and PDS/Es?  Or was it pure PDS (or pure PDSE)?

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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:41:42 -0400, Richard Verville wrote:
>The jcl is correct. I caused an 0C1 dump and see in the output the concat
>addresses. If I direct the load towards the steplib (I moved the libraries
>there) it works fine. Richard
>
>Charles Mills wrote:
>
>> Sounds unlikely to me to be the DCB.
>>
>> Are you sure the JCL is correct? Are you sure the load module is there?
>> 
>>
>> Perhaps someone else knows for sure: there are or were some issues with
>> concatenations (for regular QSAM GET) if the subsequent concatenations
>> had BLKSIZEs greater than the first. You could try coding
>> BLKSIZE= on the
>> first DD.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richard Verville
>>
>> I am attempting to LOAD a program which resides in a concatenation of a
>> ddname. I coded the DCB paramater to route the load accordingly. For
>> some reason, if the library is first on the concatenation it works fine,
>> underwise I can a not found condition, and the same happens with the
>> BLDL macro. Is this problem related to my DCB coding ? Richard

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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Richard Verville 
The BLDL returns retcode=4,reason=0... If the libraries are in the steplib ...
it works ... It's when they are not in the steplib but pointed to another
ddname (pgmlist in my case) and the DCB parm is coded in the LOAD macro and
the BLDL points to the PGMLIST DCB it does not get the programs if they reside
in the 2nd, 3rd dsname  Richard

Binyamin Dissen wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:13:32 -0400 Richard Verville
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :>I am attempting to LOAD a program which resides in a concatenation of a
> :>ddname. I coded the DCB paramater to route the load accordingly. For
> :>some reason, if the library is first on the concatenation it works fine,
> :>underwise I can a not found condition, and the same happens with the
> :>BLDL macro. Is this problem related to my DCB coding ?
>
> Unlikely.
>
> What return codes are you getting from the load and BLDL?
>
> Try with EXEC PGM= and the libraries as a steplib.
>
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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen 
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:13:32 -0400 Richard Verville
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:>I am attempting to LOAD a program which resides in a concatenation of a
:>ddname. I coded the DCB paramater to route the load accordingly. For
:>some reason, if the library is first on the concatenation it works fine,
:>underwise I can a not found condition, and the same happens with the
:>BLDL macro. Is this problem related to my DCB coding ?

Unlikely.

What return codes are you getting from the load and BLDL?

Try with EXEC PGM= and the libraries as a steplib.

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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Richard Verville 
The jcl is correct. I caused an 0C1 dump and see in the output the concat
addresses. If I direct the load towards the steplib (I moved the libraries
there) it works fine. Richard

Charles Mills wrote:

> Sounds unlikely to me to be the DCB.
>
> Are you sure the JCL is correct? Are you sure the load module is there?
> 
>
> Perhaps someone else knows for sure: there are or were some issues with
> concatenations (for regular QSAM GET) if the subsequent concatenations
> had BLKSIZEs greater than the first. You could try coding
> BLKSIZE= on the
> first DD.
>
> Charles
>
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> Behalf Of Richard Verville
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> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: LOAD & BLDL
>
> I am attempting to LOAD a program which resides in a concatenation of a
> ddname. I coded the DCB paramater to route the load accordingly. For
> some reason, if the library is first on the concatenation it works fine,
> underwise I can a not found condition, and the same happens with the
> BLDL macro. Is this problem related to my DCB coding ? Richard
>
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Re: LOAD & BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Charles Mills 
Sounds unlikely to me to be the DCB.

Are you sure the JCL is correct? Are you sure the load module is there?


Perhaps someone else knows for sure: there are or were some issues with
concatenations (for regular QSAM GET) if the subsequent concatenations
had BLKSIZEs greater than the first. You could try coding
BLKSIZE= on the
first DD.

Charles

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Subject: LOAD & BLDL

I am attempting to LOAD a program which resides in a concatenation of a
ddname. I coded the DCB paramater to route the load accordingly. For
some reason, if the library is first on the concatenation it works fine,
underwise I can a not found condition, and the same happens with the
BLDL macro. Is this problem related to my DCB coding ? Richard

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