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Anyone having problems down loading their orders? I can get to the order but can't view it or download it. Good thing our MF up time is better than IBM's or the MF would be rolled out the door. Tks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I got rsu1112 on 09jan12 w/o any problems at all, and then on 12jan12 downloaded a half-dozen individual ptf-s , again w/o any problems /s/ tuco bonno; Graduate, College of Conflict Management; University of SouthEast Asia; I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Thursday, 19 January, 2012 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Shop zseries Anyone having problems down loading their orders? I can get to the order but can't view it or download it. Good thing our MF up time is better than IBM's or the MF would be rolled out the door. Tks Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Anyone having problems down loading their orders? I can get to the order but can't view it or download it. Good thing our MF up time is better than IBM's or the MF would be rolled out the door. We downloaded our z/OS 1.13 order overnight last night. Took about 6 hours; RC = 0. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Thursday, 19 January, 2012 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Shop zseries Anyone having problems down loading their orders? I can get to the order but can't view it or download it. Good thing our MF up time is better than IBM's or the MF would be rolled out the door. The only problem with Shop I have is time of order processing (I mean products, not PTFs). Average time is several months. Of course people are involved in the process. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2012 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.410.984 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
It's all there in the SMP/E manual. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 8:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Hello, I have never used this feature to order selectively. I always used to order full package. Can you please suggest me the way or point any redbook, which can help me to do this task. Regards Saurabh On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.comwrote: I think a lot of us are saying, Aha. R12 fully supports RECEIVEFROMNETWORK, a far superior means of pulling maintenance. RFN sends a bit map of your CSI to Shopz so that he can selectively send you only the fixes that you do not already have on your system. The result should be a far smaller package than you are currently being shipped. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 10/11/2011 08:48 PM Subject:Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Hello Experts, Sorry for Typo maistake. It is actually z/OS 1.12 system . I am trying to downlaod RSU for z/OS 1.12 system only. Regards Saurabh On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:50 PM, saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Experts, I am trying to order z/OS 1.2 RSU package. But somehow its getting rejected with below error. order has been rejected because Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold When we order any RSU, it ask for maximum size of packet , which I have selected 5 GB max. It also ask for Splitting the order into 50MB pieces but after that also I am getting below error. Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold Please re-order w/o requisites or specify an Alternate media Customer BITMAP is being used for this order Package contained 5715 fixes with 10,533,198 Kilo-bytes of data This Package contains PTF(s) with open PE-APAR(s) Can you please help me to reorder the RSU. -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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And here's a hint: look for GIMXSID Ant. Northern Territory Government of Australia -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2011 4:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website It's all there in the SMP/E manual. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 8:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Hello, I have never used this feature to order selectively. I always used to order full package. Can you please suggest me the way or point any redbook, which can help me to do this task. Regards Saurabh On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.comwrote: I think a lot of us are saying, Aha. R12 fully supports RECEIVEFROMNETWORK, a far superior means of pulling maintenance. RFN sends a bit map of your CSI to Shopz so that he can selectively send you only the fixes that you do not already have on your system. The result should be a far smaller package than you are currently being shipped. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 10/11/2011 08:48 PM Subject:Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Hello Experts, Sorry for Typo maistake. It is actually z/OS 1.12 system . I am trying to downlaod RSU for z/OS 1.12 system only. Regards Saurabh On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:50 PM, saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Experts, I am trying to order z/OS 1.2 RSU package. But somehow its getting rejected with below error. order has been rejected because Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold When we order any RSU, it ask for maximum size of packet , which I have selected 5 GB max. It also ask for Splitting the order into 50MB pieces but after that also I am getting below error. Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold Please re-order w/o requisites or specify an Alternate media Customer BITMAP is being used for this order Package contained 5715 fixes with 10,533,198 Kilo-bytes of data This Package contains PTF(s) with open PE-APAR(s) Can you please help me to reorder the RSU. -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal Hello Experts, Sorry for Typo maistake. It is actually z/OS 1.12 system . I am trying to downlaod RSU for z/OS 1.12 system only. In that case, SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER is definitely worthwhile to investigate. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave It's all there in the SMP/E manual. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 8:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Hello, I have never used this feature to order selectively. I always used to order full package. Can you please suggest me the way or point any redbook, which can help me to do this task. Regards Saurabh I can't remember where I found this sample job (it's not in SAMPLIB), but this, together with the SMP/E manuals and a (free) client certificate you first obtain from ShopzSeries, should get you started: // Insert a valid JOB statement here //* //* //* DO NOT TURN CAPS ON. THIS JOB CONTAINS CASE //*SENSITIVE CONTROL CARDS. //* // //* //* //* This job will order the specified content and RECEIVE it from //* the specified IBM server. //* //* Change the JOB statement above as required to match your //* installation's requirements. //* //* SMP/E zone-related files are assumed to be defined in your //* global CSI. See the SMP/E Commands manual for a list of //* the required DDDEF entries. //* //* //* NOTE 1: Change the GLOBAL SMPCSI data set name to match your //* system's GLOBAL SMPCSI data set name. //* //* NOTE 2: Change the SMPNTS directory name to match your system's //* SMPNTS directory name. //* //* NOTE 3: If you are using SMP/E level 34.09 or higher, uncomment //* the SMPJHOME and SMPCPATH DD Statements. If you are at //* SMP/E 3.4, it is recommended you be at least 34.09. //* //* NOTE 4: The CONTENT keyword specifies what to include in the order. //* Specify ALL, APARS, CRITICAL, HOLDDATA, PTFS or RECOMMENDED //* See the SMP/E v3r5 Commands manual for the meanings of each //* //* NOTE 5: If your local host requires firewall navigation in order to //* transfer the CBPDO package, then remove the comment around //* the CLIENT operand on the RECEIVE, and enter your firewall //* information on the CLNTINFO DD statement. See the SMP/E //* Commands manual for details on the CLIENT information. //* //* NOTE 6: At the end of a successful RECEIVE operation, you can tell //* SMP/E to delete the CBPDO package that was just received. //* If you want to delete the package, then remove the comment //* around the DELETEPKG operand on the RECEIVE command. //* //* //SMPER1 EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=0M, // PARM='PROCESS=WAIT' //SMPCSI DD DISP=SHR,DSN=your.smpe.global.csi //SMPNTS DD PATHDISP=KEEP, // PATH='/your/smpnts' === NOTE 2 //SMPJHOME DD PATH='/usr/lpp/java/J6.0/' === NOTE 3 //SMPCPATH DD PATH='/usr/lpp/smp/classes/'=== NOTE 3 //*SMPWKDIR DD PATH='/tmp/smpwrk' === Optional //SMPOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLOG DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLOGA DD SYSOUT=* //SMPRPT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLIST DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Receiving RSU directly to Global zone might be risky. Because while receiving from IBM site, if connection drops, then it might create problem. Please correct me, if my perception is wrong Regards Saurabh On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave It's all there in the SMP/E manual. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 8:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Hello, I have never used this feature to order selectively. I always used to order full package. Can you please suggest me the way or point any redbook, which can help me to do this task. Regards Saurabh I can't remember where I found this sample job (it's not in SAMPLIB), but this, together with the SMP/E manuals and a (free) client certificate you first obtain from ShopzSeries, should get you started: // Insert a valid JOB statement here //* //* //* DO NOT TURN CAPS ON. THIS JOB CONTAINS CASE //*SENSITIVE CONTROL CARDS. //* // //* //* //* This job will order the specified content and RECEIVE it from //* the specified IBM server. //* //* Change the JOB statement above as required to match your //* installation's requirements. //* //* SMP/E zone-related files are assumed to be defined in your //* global CSI. See the SMP/E Commands manual for a list of //* the required DDDEF entries. //* //* //* NOTE 1: Change the GLOBAL SMPCSI data set name to match your //* system's GLOBAL SMPCSI data set name. //* //* NOTE 2: Change the SMPNTS directory name to match your system's //* SMPNTS directory name. //* //* NOTE 3: If you are using SMP/E level 34.09 or higher, uncomment //* the SMPJHOME and SMPCPATH DD Statements. If you are at //* SMP/E 3.4, it is recommended you be at least 34.09. //* //* NOTE 4: The CONTENT keyword specifies what to include in the order. //* Specify ALL, APARS, CRITICAL, HOLDDATA, PTFS or RECOMMENDED //* See the SMP/E v3r5 Commands manual for the meanings of each //* //* NOTE 5: If your local host requires firewall navigation in order to //* transfer the CBPDO package, then remove the comment around //* the CLIENT operand on the RECEIVE, and enter your firewall //* information on the CLNTINFO DD statement. See the SMP/E //* Commands manual for details on the CLIENT information. //* //* NOTE 6: At the end of a successful RECEIVE operation, you can tell //* SMP/E to delete the CBPDO package that was just received. //* If you want to delete the package, then remove the comment //* around the DELETEPKG operand on the RECEIVE command. //* //* //SMPER1 EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=0M, // PARM='PROCESS=WAIT' //SMPCSI DD DISP=SHR,DSN=your.smpe.global.csi //SMPNTS DD PATHDISP=KEEP, // PATH='/your/smpnts' === NOTE 2 //SMPJHOME DD PATH='/usr/lpp/java/J6.0/' === NOTE 3 //SMPCPATH DD PATH='/usr/lpp/smp/classes/'=== NOTE 3 //*SMPWKDIR DD PATH='/tmp/smpwrk' === Optional //SMPOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLOG DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLOGA DD SYSOUT=* //SMPRPT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLIST DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPCNTL DD * SET BOUNDARY (GLOBAL) . RECEIVE ORDER( ORDERSERVER(ORDSRVR) CONTENT(RECOMMENDED) === NOTE 4 FORTGTZONES(TGTZONE) /*CLIENT(CLNTINFO) === NOTE 5 */ ) DELETEPKG/* === NOTE 6 */ . /* //* //ORDSRVR DD * ORDERSERVER url=https://eccgw01.boulder.ibm.com/services/projects/ecc/ws/; keyring=USERID/KeyRingName certificate=SMPE Certificate Label /ORDERSERVER /* //CLNTINFO DD * === NOTE 5 CLIENT javadebugoptions=-Dcom.ibm.smp.debug=severe -showversion /CLIENT /* // -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:47:56 +0530, saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote: Receiving RSU directly to Global zone might be risky. Because while receiving from IBM site, if connection drops, then it might create problem. Please correct me, if my perception is wrong Never that I have seen. The package is staged in the SMPNTS and then unwound (pax) in the receive frommnetwork process, so a drop during the initial transfer from the IBM server doesn't affect the zones. From the fine manual: 14.4.3 Restarting RECEIVE FROMNETWORK If errors occur during the transfer of files for a package, it may be necessary to restart the RECEIVE FROMNETWORK operation in order to complete the transfer of the entire package. You can simply rerun the RECEIVE FROMNETWORK command, and SMP/E will determine which files have already been transferred successfully, and which files need to be transferred again or have not yet been transferred. Before transferring a file, RECEIVE processing checks to see if the file already exists in the package directory of the SMPNTS. If it does, the hash value for the existing file is calculated and compared to the hash value supplied in the package attribute file. If they match, the file is used as it exists in the package directory and is not transferred again. If the hash value of the existing file does not match the value supplied in the package attribute file, the file is transferred from the FTP server and replaces the existing file in the package directory. -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal Receiving RSU directly to Global zone might be risky. Because while receiving from IBM site, if connection drops, then it might create problem. Please correct me, if my perception is wrong Your perception is wrong. RECEIVE ORDER first orders the specified service, downloads the entire package to the HFS or ZFS you specified for //SMPNTS, and ONLY THEN commences RECEIVE processing. Thus, if anything goes wrong during the download, nothing is RECEIVEd. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Dropping a connection during RFN is not a problem. SMPE is very good about resuming an interrupted download. The sample JCL provided is a start. However, there are two issues that you must deal with outside of any specific job content. 1. Your job must be able to reach Shopz over the network. That's a mainframe connection. Watch for proxy and firewall issues. Some companies decree that this cannot be done. In other cases some reconfiguration might be required. If you can FTP doc to IBM directly in a mainframe batch job, you will probably be OK. 2. You have to set up a key and keyring in your security product. If you use a third party security product (i.e. not RACF), I can't help you. Otherwise the procedure is fairly well documented. I've done it several times. Still don't understand a bit of it. ;-( . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 10/12/2011 09:24 AM Subject:Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Receiving RSU directly to Global zone might be risky. Because while receiving from IBM site, if connection drops, then it might create problem. Please correct me, if my perception is wrong Regards Saurabh On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave It's all there in the SMP/E manual. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 8:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Hello, I have never used this feature to order selectively. I always used to order full package. Can you please suggest me the way or point any redbook, which can help me to do this task. Regards Saurabh I can't remember where I found this sample job (it's not in SAMPLIB), but this, together with the SMP/E manuals and a (free) client certificate you first obtain from ShopzSeries, should get you started: // Insert a valid JOB statement here //* //* //* DO NOT TURN CAPS ON. THIS JOB CONTAINS CASE //*SENSITIVE CONTROL CARDS. //* // //* //* //* This job will order the specified content and RECEIVE it from //* the specified IBM server. //* //* Change the JOB statement above as required to match your //* installation's requirements. //* //* SMP/E zone-related files are assumed to be defined in your //* global CSI. See the SMP/E Commands manual for a list of //* the required DDDEF entries. //* //* //* NOTE 1: Change the GLOBAL SMPCSI data set name to match your //* system's GLOBAL SMPCSI data set name. //* //* NOTE 2: Change the SMPNTS directory name to match your system's //* SMPNTS directory name. //* //* NOTE 3: If you are using SMP/E level 34.09 or higher, uncomment //* the SMPJHOME and SMPCPATH DD Statements. If you are at //* SMP/E 3.4, it is recommended you be at least 34.09. //* //* NOTE 4: The CONTENT keyword specifies what to include in the order. //* Specify ALL, APARS, CRITICAL, HOLDDATA, PTFS or RECOMMENDED //* See the SMP/E v3r5 Commands manual for the meanings of each //* //* NOTE 5: If your local host requires firewall navigation in order to //* transfer the CBPDO package, then remove the comment around //* the CLIENT operand on the RECEIVE, and enter your firewall //* information on the CLNTINFO DD statement. See the SMP/E //* Commands manual for details on the CLIENT information. //* //* NOTE 6: At the end of a successful RECEIVE operation, you can tell //* SMP/E to delete the CBPDO package that was just received. //* If you want to delete the package, then remove the comment //* around the DELETEPKG operand on the RECEIVE command. //* //* //SMPER1 EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=0M, // PARM='PROCESS=WAIT' //SMPCSI DD DISP=SHR,DSN=your.smpe.global.csi //SMPNTS DD PATHDISP=KEEP, // PATH='/your/smpnts' === NOTE 2 //SMPJHOME DD PATH='/usr/lpp/java/J6.0/' === NOTE 3 //SMPCPATH DD PATH='/usr/lpp/smp/classes/'=== NOTE 3 //*SMPWKDIR DD PATH='/tmp/smpwrk' === Optional //SMPOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLOG DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLOGA DD SYSOUT=* //SMPRPT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLIST DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPCNTL DD * SET BOUNDARY (GLOBAL
RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Hello Experts, I am trying to order z/OS 1.2 RSU package. But somehow its getting rejected with below error. order has been rejected because Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold When we order any RSU, it ask for maximum size of packet , which I have selected 5 GB max. It also ask for Splitting the order into 50MB pieces but after that also I am getting below error. Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold Please re-order w/o requisites or specify an Alternate media Customer BITMAP is being used for this order Package contained 5715 fixes with 10,533,198 Kilo-bytes of data This Package contains PTF(s) with open PE-APAR(s) Can you please help me to reorder the RSU. -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Hi Between the Size limit and Split option is an alternate media selection option which allows you to select Tape or DVD for delivery by post. Gerry order has been rejected because Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold When we order any RSU, it ask for maximum size of packet , which I have selected 5 GB max. It also ask for Splitting the order into 50MB pieces but after that also I am getting below error. Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold Please re-order w/o requisites or specify an Alternate media Customer BITMAP is being used for this order Package contained 5715 fixes with 10,533,198 Kilo-bytes of data This Package contains PTF(s) with open PE-APAR(s) ..For low fares and great deals on hotels, car hire and travel insurance visit http://www.aerlingus.com *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any review, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited.If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the material. *** Aer Lingus Limited Registered in Ireland Company Number 9215 Registered Office at Dublin Airport, Dublin,Ireland. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Thanks for reply . Actually I wanted to avoid the physical media, So i prefer only Internet option. Is there any alternative, usnig that we can get this RSU via internet or any FTP option. Regards Saurabh On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Gerry Tracey gerry.tra...@aerlingus.comwrote: Hi Between the Size limit and Split option is an alternate media selection option which allows you to select Tape or DVD for delivery by post. Gerry order has been rejected because Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold When we order any RSU, it ask for maximum size of packet , which I have selected 5 GB max. It also ask for Splitting the order into 50MB pieces but after that also I am getting below error. Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold Please re-order w/o requisites or specify an Alternate media Customer BITMAP is being used for this order Package contained 5715 fixes with 10,533,198 Kilo-bytes of data This Package contains PTF(s) with open PE-APAR(s) ..For low fares and great deals on hotels, car hire and travel insurance visit http://www.aerlingus.com *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any review, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited.If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the material. *** Aer Lingus Limited Registered in Ireland Company Number 9215 Registered Office at Dublin Airport, Dublin,Ireland. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Hi Saurabh As far as I know the only way to get Internet delivery is to keep the order under 5GB. Gerry Is there any alternative, usnig that we can get this RSU via internet or any FTP option. ..For low fares and great deals on hotels, car hire and travel insurance visit http://www.aerlingus.com *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any review, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited.If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the material. *** Aer Lingus Limited Registered in Ireland Company Number 9215 Registered Office at Dublin Airport, Dublin,Ireland. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Hello Gerry, Is it possible to order older RSU. For example if I am at RSU level 1005 and the current level of RSU which is getting shipped with this order is 1109 and If I want to oder the RSU level 1103. Is it really possible . I am asking this question because 1105 will have small size od dad compare to 1109. So Once I will apply 1105 in my system thne I can reoder the RSU with latest level 1109 and apply it . Regards Saurabh On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Gerry Tracey gerry.tra...@aerlingus.comwrote: Hi Saurabh As far as I know the only way to get Internet delivery is to keep the order under 5GB. Gerry Is there any alternative, usnig that we can get this RSU via internet or any FTP option. ..For low fares and great deals on hotels, car hire and travel insurance visit http://www.aerlingus.com *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any review, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited.If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the material. *** Aer Lingus Limited Registered in Ireland Company Number 9215 Registered Office at Dublin Airport, Dublin,Ireland. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Hi Saurabh Yes you can select older RSU levels and you can also tailor the request by selecting specific products or FMIDs. Gerry Is it possible to order older RSU. For example if I am at RSU level 1005 and the current level of RSU which is getting shipped with this order is 1109 and If I want to oder the RSU level 1103. Is it really possible . ..For low fares and great deals on hotels, car hire and travel insurance visit http://www.aerlingus.com *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any review, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited.If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the material. *** Aer Lingus Limited Registered in Ireland Company Number 9215 Registered Office at Dublin Airport, Dublin,Ireland. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Hello Gerry, But I dont see the option to select older RSU level. Once we order RSU using Sope zSeries website, it just ship us the latest RSU level available. Can you please tell me the procedure to order any specific RSU level. Regards Saurabh On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Gerry Tracey gerry.tra...@aerlingus.comwrote: Hi Saurabh Yes you can select older RSU levels and you can also tailor the request by selecting specific products or FMIDs. Gerry Is it possible to order older RSU. For example if I am at RSU level 1005 and the current level of RSU which is getting shipped with this order is 1109 and If I want to oder the RSU level 1103. Is it really possible . ..For low fares and great deals on hotels, car hire and travel insurance visit http://www.aerlingus.com *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any review, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited.If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the material. *** Aer Lingus Limited Registered in Ireland Company Number 9215 Registered Office at Dublin Airport, Dublin,Ireland. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Hi Saurabh, My apologies you are correct you can only select how far back you want to go. Gerry But I dont see the option to select older RSU level. Once we order RSU using Sope zSeries website, it just ship us the latest RSU level available. ..For low fares and great deals on hotels, car hire and travel insurance visit http://www.aerlingus.com *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any review, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited.If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the material. *** Aer Lingus Limited Registered in Ireland Company Number 9215 Registered Office at Dublin Airport, Dublin,Ireland. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Check out RECEIVE ORDER: RECEIVE SYSMODS HOLDDATA ORDER(ORDERSERVER(ORDSRVR) CONTENT(ALL)) DELETEPKG. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Hello Gerry, But I dont see the option to select older RSU level. Once we order RSU using Sope zSeries website, it just ship us the latest RSU level available. Can you please tell me the procedure to order any specific RSU level. Regards Saurabh On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Gerry Tracey gerry.tra...@aerlingus.comwrote: Hi Saurabh Yes you can select older RSU levels and you can also tailor the request by selecting specific products or FMIDs. Gerry Is it possible to order older RSU. For example if I am at RSU level 1005 and the current level of RSU which is getting shipped with this order is 1109 and If I want to oder the RSU level 1103. Is it really possible . ..For low fares and great deals on hotels, car hire and travel insurance visit http://www.aerlingus.com ** * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any review, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited.If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the material. ** * Aer Lingus Limited Registered in Ireland Company Number 9215 Registered Office at Dublin Airport, Dublin,Ireland. ** * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Hi Saurabh, I suggest that you have a look at using the consolodated inventory report. There are instructions and JCL on the Shopz site for it. Run the report, and upload it to Shopz. So, first sign in to Shopz, create new order, select service, RSU service, continue, select what RSU maint you want (individual products, FMIDs, all installed products, or all licensed products), continue. On the screen Step 2 of 5 Report installed software, on the right side there is a box with a link - Tip - Learn how to create installed software reports. Click that link and it should give you all you need to cerate and use the report. My guess is that Shopz is enforcing the size limit on the download package size so that you don't run into a prolem I hit in July. I downloaded a RSU order that was 7.3GB. The download worked fine, but JAVA could not handle a package that big . I opened a PMR and IBM posted an informational APAR II14233 on July 15, 2011. Fix is still not available. I ordered tape. If you really want electronic delivery, I suggest that you order RSU for one or two of your large products separately. Put that on, run and upload another report, and try your RSU order again. Personally, I would just order tape. Hope that helps, Linda - Original Message - From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:02:13 AM Subject: Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Hello Gerry, But I dont see the option to select older RSU level. Once we order RSU using Sope zSeries website, it just ship us the latest RSU level available. Can you please tell me the procedure to order any specific RSU level. Regards Saurabh On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Gerry Tracey gerry.tra...@aerlingus.comwrote: Hi Saurabh Yes you can select older RSU levels and you can also tailor the request by selecting specific products or FMIDs. Gerry Is it possible to order older RSU. For example if I am at RSU level 1005 and the current level of RSU which is getting shipped with this order is 1109 and If I want to oder the RSU level 1103. Is it really possible . ..For low fares and great deals on hotels, car hire and travel insurance visit http://www.aerlingus.com *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any review, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited.If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the material. *** Aer Lingus Limited Registered in Ireland Company Number 9215 Registered Office at Dublin Airport, Dublin,Ireland. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Check out RECEIVE ORDER: RECEIVE SYSMODS HOLDDATA ORDER(ORDERSERVER(ORDSRVR) CONTENT(ALL)) DELETEPKG. I was going to suggest that, too, but best I can recall RECEIVE ORDER was not available in the SMP/E release that comes with z/OS 1.2. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Check out RECEIVE ORDER: RECEIVE SYSMODS HOLDDATA ORDER(ORDERSERVER(ORDSRVR) CONTENT(ALL)) DELETEPKG. I was going to suggest that, too, but best I can recall RECEIVE ORDER was not available in the SMP/E release that comes with z/OS 1.2. I'm sorry, if I missed attempts at back level maintenance, but I am surprised Shopz is taking orders at z/OS 1.2 :) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Hello Experts, Sorry for Typo maistake. It is actually z/OS 1.12 system . I am trying to downlaod RSU for z/OS 1.12 system only. Regards Saurabh On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:50 PM, saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Experts, I am trying to order z/OS 1.2 RSU package. But somehow its getting rejected with below error. order has been rejected because Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold When we order any RSU, it ask for maximum size of packet , which I have selected 5 GB max. It also ask for Splitting the order into 50MB pieces but after that also I am getting below error. Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold Please re-order w/o requisites or specify an Alternate media Customer BITMAP is being used for this order Package contained 5715 fixes with 10,533,198 Kilo-bytes of data This Package contains PTF(s) with open PE-APAR(s) Can you please help me to reorder the RSU. -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
I think a lot of us are saying, Aha. R12 fully supports RECEIVEFROMNETWORK, a far superior means of pulling maintenance. RFN sends a bit map of your CSI to Shopz so that he can selectively send you only the fixes that you do not already have on your system. The result should be a far smaller package than you are currently being shipped. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 10/11/2011 08:48 PM Subject:Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Hello Experts, Sorry for Typo maistake. It is actually z/OS 1.12 system . I am trying to downlaod RSU for z/OS 1.12 system only. Regards Saurabh On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:50 PM, saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Experts, I am trying to order z/OS 1.2 RSU package. But somehow its getting rejected with below error. order has been rejected because Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold When we order any RSU, it ask for maximum size of packet , which I have selected 5 GB max. It also ask for Splitting the order into 50MB pieces but after that also I am getting below error. Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold Please re-order w/o requisites or specify an Alternate media Customer BITMAP is being used for this order Package contained 5715 fixes with 10,533,198 Kilo-bytes of data This Package contains PTF(s) with open PE-APAR(s) Can you please help me to reorder the RSU. -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website
Hello, I have never used this feature to order selectively. I always used to order full package. Can you please suggest me the way or point any redbook, which can help me to do this task. Regards Saurabh On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.comwrote: I think a lot of us are saying, Aha. R12 fully supports RECEIVEFROMNETWORK, a far superior means of pulling maintenance. RFN sends a bit map of your CSI to Shopz so that he can selectively send you only the fixes that you do not already have on your system. The result should be a far smaller package than you are currently being shipped. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 10/11/2011 08:48 PM Subject:Re: RSU Order using Shop zSeries Website Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Hello Experts, Sorry for Typo maistake. It is actually z/OS 1.12 system . I am trying to downlaod RSU for z/OS 1.12 system only. Regards Saurabh On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:50 PM, saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Experts, I am trying to order z/OS 1.2 RSU package. But somehow its getting rejected with below error. order has been rejected because Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold When we order any RSU, it ask for maximum size of packet , which I have selected 5 GB max. It also ask for Splitting the order into 50MB pieces but after that also I am getting below error. Package size exceeded the Electronic threshold Please re-order w/o requisites or specify an Alternate media Customer BITMAP is being used for this order Package contained 5715 fixes with 10,533,198 Kilo-bytes of data This Package contains PTF(s) with open PE-APAR(s) Can you please help me to reorder the RSU. -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ?
Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ?
no its not down .. we get the same error and just click the RELOAD-button from the browser and the page will be displayed. Maybe a timing-problem??? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ?
I have the same problem. It happens after when you try to sign in. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bernard Coeytaux Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ? Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ?
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Shop zSeries Ordering
Just wondering if anyone else was having a problem ordering on shop zseries. When ordering maintenance I get to 'Step 4 of 5 Specify delivery options' where you use the drop down menu for 'preferred media', I usually select internet. The drop down menu yesterday and today is empty so I cannot select an option and thus can't go any further. Anyone else finding this? Thanks Matt Oh, I called the shop zseries support number and the person answering the phone was not familiar with what shop zseries was. No comment... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering
Matt, I just ordered 7 PTFs without difficulty. Try clearing your cache, try Firefox or IE (whichever you are not currently using) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Shop zSeries Ordering Just wondering if anyone else was having a problem ordering on shop zseries. When ordering maintenance I get to 'Step 4 of 5 Specify delivery options' where you use the drop down menu for 'preferred media', I usually select internet. The drop down menu yesterday and today is empty so I cannot select an option and thus can't go any further. Anyone else finding this? Thanks Matt Oh, I called the shop zseries support number and the person answering the phone was not familiar with what shop zseries was. No comment... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering
I had numerous problems with IBM.COM yesterday. I was searching for information on the products added to SCRT V18 and could not find them. For example 5655-V60 is WebSphere Message Broker for z/OS V71 (actually only V7, not 71) and the only hit on IBM.COM is the SCRT What's New Page. Fortunately a google search was able to find the announcement letter so I could gather the other information I need. I've always been able to find announcement letters via the IBM search box. The search doesn't work today either. Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Call Save Money on IBM System z Software Charges Consulting Expertise on Capacity Planning, Performance Tuning, WLC, LPARs, IRD and LCS Software Seminars on IBM SW Pricing, LPARs, and IRD Voice: +1 414 332-3062 Web: www.sherkow.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Jon Brock wrote: Thanks for the tip. I have avoided FROMNETWORK in the past since we haven't configured cryptographic services, but I may give it a shot next time. Crypto services (ICSF) takes half an hour to establish. Fine print Assumed you have crypto HW enabled Planning not included Learning not included Tax not included g YMMV /fine print -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Strange, I could have sworn you were one of the vocal dissenters when IBM did away with JOBCAT and STEPCAT. Not all progress is in the forward direction. I think that was Ed Gould -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues On Mon, 5 May 2008 11:27:41 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: I don't object to z/OS including Unix. I do object to being forced to use it for completely unrelated functions. One uses the most convenient tools available. c all /Unix/VSAM/ ... in your tirade and reset your clock a couple decades. History repeats itself. -- gil I still despise VSAM at times. Like right now due to not being able to share an open VSAM file across z/OS images. Granted, this is a documented restriction. But our programmers don't really care, they just want VSAM to work the way that __they__ want it to work, not the way it was designed. 1. VSAM RLS (free, but specialized programming needed). 2. DFSMStvs (Transactional VSAM; extra-cost product). -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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TSO line edit? XEDIT? snip Just out of curiosity, which editor supports that syntax. I know ISPF would use c all Unix VSAM and I have a vague recollection of vi or some Unix editor using s/Unix/VSAM but I've never seen the two mixed before. . . . One uses the most convenient tools available. c all /Unix/VSAM/ /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues I still despise VSAM at times. Like right now due to not being able to share an open VSAM file across z/OS images. Granted, this is a documented restriction. But our programmers don't really care, they just want VSAM to work the way that __they__ want it to work, not the way it was designed. 1. VSAM RLS (free, but specialized programming needed). 2. DFSMStvs (Transactional VSAM; extra-cost product). -jc- No CF. Management screamed at the cost of an ICF engine. And besides the mainframe is going away!. So nobody really seems to care about doing good fixes. Just ad hoc, minimal get it running type fixes. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues On Mon, 5 May 2008 11:27:41 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: I don't object to z/OS including Unix. I do object to being forced to use it for completely unrelated functions. One uses the most convenient tools available. c all /Unix/VSAM/ ... in your tirade and reset your clock a couple decades. History repeats itself. -- gil I still despise VSAM at times. Like right now due to not being able to share an open VSAM file across z/OS images. Granted, this is a documented restriction. But our programmers don't really care, they just want VSAM to work the way that __they__ want it to work, not the way it was designed. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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snip- I still despise VSAM at times. Like right now due to not being able to share an open VSAM file across z/OS images. Granted, this is a documented restriction. But our programmers don't really care, they just want VSAM to work the way that __they__ want it to work, not the way it was designed. -unsnip Do they *want* their SUV's to fly as well? We all have to live with some limitations, however unreasonable we might feel those limitations. I can think of a few people that seriously need killing, but I can't do it. We learn to adapt; so can those programmers. Slap them up-side the head and teach them about VSAM buffers in storage, index updating, etc. Then maybe, just maybe, they'll understand why they can't always get what they want. :-) (Also, remind them how bad ISAM was; that ought to get their attention.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Does the Internet receive still require cryptographic services? Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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No it doesn't, but check back thru the archives for the past 6 months. I had an issue where I don't have crypto, either in hardware or in the appropriate level of JAVA, and hit some snags due to incorrect DDDEF entries in my receive job. You can contact me offlist if you want me to dig back thru my notes on it. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Does the Internet receive still require cryptographic services? Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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My tapes didn't require crytographic or JAVA interference. G Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/06/2008 01:35:40 PM: -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues --- No it doesn't, but check back thru the archives for the past 6 months. I had an issue where I don't have crypto, either in hardware or in the appropriate level of JAVA, and hit some snags due to incorrect DDDEF entries in my receive job. You can contact me offlist if you want me to dig back thru my notes on it. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Does the Internet receive still require cryptographic services? Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Thanks for the tip. I have avoided FROMNETWORK in the past since we haven't configured cryptographic services, but I may give it a shot next time. Thanks, Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues No it doesn't, but check back thru the archives for the past 6 months. I had an issue where I don't have crypto, either in hardware or in the appropriate level of JAVA, and hit some snags due to incorrect DDDEF entries in my receive job. You can contact me offlist if you want me to dig back thru my notes on it. Rex -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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My adventure with ShopzSeries: I ordered JAVA SDK for z/OS. It is free product/ I can dowlnload it from IBM webpage without any paperwork. However web-downloadable form is non-SMP/E. SMP/E package is only from ShopZ - but it's still free of charge. But not free of paperwork. It took several weeks (!) to get ...no, not the software - I've got the papers to sign up. After the signup and sending the papers to IBM I'll MAYBE get my order. BTW: I also downloaded XML Toolkit for z/OS. This is available for download in SMP/E form. Why not JAVA SDK ? BTW2: XML Toolkit is free of service, so later I downloaded a bunch of PTFs for that product. BTW3: I didn't want XML Toolkit. But this is required for CICS TS 3.2 installation. However *no of the IBM systems* informed me about it. I ordered z/OS and CICS via ShopZ - no notification about prerequisite. I processed ServerPac Installation Dialog - no information about missing prerequisite. I found it hard way - CALLLIBS failed. Then found small font notification that I need XML Toolkit. BTW4: When I ordered JAVA SDK for z/OS - the ShopZ wizard gently informed me that I also need prerequsite: z/OS. vbg While the prerequisite for JAVA seems to me quite obvious, the prereq. for CICS wasn't. And wasn't notified by IBM systems. OK, time for my pills... -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 11:24 +0200, R.S. wrote: OK, time for my pills... Be sure to wash them down with a dark rum ... ;0) Shane ... (apparently makes the pills work better) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Snipped: why would anyone bother with tapes anymore? yuck! Not all of us like messing around with the convoluted USS path, that's why. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Daniel McLaughlin wrote: Snipped: why would anyone bother with tapes anymore? yuck! Not all of us like messing around with the convoluted USS path, that's why. Time to learn new tricks ? vbg But seriously, it is not only matter of big HFS and managing (long) pathnames. It is also (unclear) unpacking hfs files into MVS datasets using GIMUNZIP. BTW: I downloaded XML Toolkit. Approx. 650MB. First step was to unpax it into HFS files - at least another 650MB. Then GIMUNZIP it into MVS datasets. Another 650MB! Then perform SMP/E RECEIVE - from MVS datasets on dasd to SMP/E relfiles - that means another MVS datasets on DASD. So, you need *FOUR TIMES* more than package size (assuming no compression and no deletes during the process). It *could* be simpler, but it would be against SMP/E policy: to keep things as complex as possible. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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convoluted USS path? I guess, I've never considered USS convoluted, depends on how you have your shop set up. I'll take download anyday over having to deal with tapes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. My adventure with ShopzSeries: I ordered JAVA SDK for z/OS. It is free product/ I can dowlnload it from IBM webpage without any paperwork. However web-downloadable form is non-SMP/E. SMP/E package is only from ShopZ - but it's still free of charge. But not free of paperwork. It took several weeks (!) to get ...no, not the software - I've got the papers to sign up. After the signup and sending the papers to IBM I'll MAYBE get my order. You didn't mention how long you've been registered with Shopz, or how long Shopz has been available in Europe. But I had a similar experience when I ordered the z/OS UNIX Ported Tools, after it was no longer available as a free download. Took about 10 days to process the additional license (no physical paperwork involved), but within a couple hours after I received email notification that the paperwork had been completed, my Shopz order magically changed from manufacturing to ready for download. Later, we ordered the z/OS 1.9 Serverpac, and when it was delivered we saw that it included the z/OS UNIX Ported Tools. BTW: I also downloaded XML Toolkit for z/OS. This is available for download in SMP/E form. Why not JAVA SDK ? BTW2: XML Toolkit is free of service, so later I downloaded a bunch of PTFs for that product. BTW3: I didn't want XML Toolkit. But this is required for CICS TS 3.2 installation. However *no of the IBM systems* informed me about it. I ordered z/OS and CICS via ShopZ - no notification about prerequisite. I processed ServerPac Installation Dialog - no information about missing prerequisite. I found it hard way - CALLLIBS failed. Then found small font notification that I need XML Toolkit. Welcome to the club. :-) We learned about that prerequisite the same way, before the fine print about it appeared (CTS 3.2 was our first bleeding edge software product in a long time). -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Chase, John wrote: [...] You didn't mention how long you've been registered with Shopz, or how long Shopz has been available in Europe. It has been available for quite long time, but limited to service. Now it's available for product ordering as well. But I had a similar experience when I ordered the z/OS UNIX Ported Tools, after it was no longer available as a free download. Took about 10 days to process the additional license (no physical paperwork involved), [...] Ten days is express service! g It took 3 months and paperwork to order products through ShopzSeries. Is it long ? Well, it's better than traditional way. Last time it took ...over 5 months (!) to deliver *wrong* package and next 6 months to fix it. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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When federal legal restrictions (not company policy) prohibit connection, age and popularity become somewhat irrelevant. -Original Message- From: Bobbie Justice [mailto:snip] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues I guess, your company might find it interesting to know that ftp and the internet has been around for a few months now, some of us are actually using it. . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I don't object to z/OS including Unix. I do object to being forced to use it for completely unrelated functions. -Original Message- From: Timothy Sipples [mailto:snip] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Barry Schwarz writes: If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. You did. :-) z/OS includes UNIX(TM). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I don't object to z/OS including Unix. I do object to being forced to use it for completely unrelated functions.Have to agree with Barry on this one! Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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We ran MVT without USS and we LIKED it! Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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And it was completely optional whether I activated it or not. And then it became mandatory to activate it but you could do so with a minimal dummy configuration. Now I don't even have that choice. Over the years, more and more functionality has been moved across the fence, frequently with inadequate consideration to the impact. (It wasn't that long ago this group discussed a multitude of BPXSTOP REXXs because OMVS wouldn't let JES2 shutdown CLEANLY.) Right now, file and file systems are simulated in MVS datasets. If the current trend continues, how long before datasets will be simulated in file systems? -Original Message- From: Bobbie Justice [mailto:snip] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues exactly, and it has included Unix for quite awhile now, O/E first showed up with MVS V4 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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AMEN! Jerry Fuchs Senior Systems Engineer Wendy's International Inc. One Dave Thomas Blvd. Dublin, Ohio 43017 (614) 764-3594 Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 05/05/2008 02:29 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues I don't object to z/OS including Unix. I do object to being forced to use it for completely unrelated functions. -Original Message- From: Timothy Sipples [mailto:snip] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Barry Schwarz writes: If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. You did. :-) z/OS includes UNIX(TM). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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All of you are starting to show your age Something you setup once, and forget. This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David All of you are starting to show your age Something you setup once, and forget. Indeed. If you don't occasionally learn some new tricks, your audience will get bored and wander off... -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I really have to question whether reading or writing a file is that much easier than dealing with a dataset. In fact, one of the selling points used to be that DD names made your program device independent. A sequential file could be stand-alone or a member of a PDS. It could be on cards, tape, disk, drum, cell, display terminal/keyboard, and now file system. Why would compressing a file be that much different than compressing a dataset? -Original Message- From: Paul Gilmartin [mailto:snip] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:13:43 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: And while we are on the subject, why does an internet download have to go to a Unix file? Is there some reason SMP/E couldn't handle a normal dataset? If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. Because UNIX is simpler, easier to use, and allowed implementation of the function with only base z/OS software. I was not privy to the design considerations, but I imagine the designers wanted an archive scheme that was available with base z/OS; and could be used with a non-z/OS-peculiar server. Compression is also desirable. What are the options?: o TSO TRANSMIT? Widely used, but requires TSO TMP. I suppose a requirement to run SMP/E under TSO or vice-versa was unattractive. And the format is not compressed, but quite the opposite with a high overhead. o AMATERSE? Not in base z/OS at the time the facility was developed. o ADRDSSU? Don't know. Is it Internet-friendly? And I lately discovered that there's a rule that to unpack an ADRDSSU archive the user must have read access in the profile governing the original data set name, even when unpacking to a different name; a clear impediment to portability. I understand the rationale for this rule, but it could have been relaxed somewhat and still achieved its objective. I suppose the first scheme they found that met the criteria was the pax.Z format common in UNIX. But why didn't they abandon relative files and put everything inline with GIMDTS, compressed with GIMCPTS? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Daniel McLaughlin wrote: We ran MVT without USS and we LIKED it! Daniel McLaughlin Oh, sure. And I fought it tooth and nail for a while, too. But I've come to find out it can be kinda' fun. And on no other platform can you do all the ol' fun stuff and the new fun stuff at the same time. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Check out the Trainer's Friend Store to purchase z/OS == == application developer toolkits. Sample code in four== == programming languages, JCL to Assemble or compile, == == bind and test. == == http://www.trainersfriend.com/TTFStore/index.html== -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Oh, sure. And I fought it tooth and nail for a while, too. But I've come to find out it can be kinda' fun. And on no other platform can you do all the ol' fun stuff and the new fun stuff at the same time. I've used UNIX since 1976, so I was always pleased that IBM introduced USS to MVS. I have found that if you write code exploiting both MVS and UNIX features you can end up with something greater than the sum of its parts. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Mon, 5 May 2008 12:06:22 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: I really have to question whether reading or writing a file is that much easier than dealing with a dataset. In fact, one of the selling points used to be that DD names made your program device independent. A At one time, that was pretty much true. I'd conclude it was part of the original design philosophy of OS/360. Well, you couldn't have a PDS on a card reader. But such restrictions were rationally motivated. sequential file could be stand-alone or a member of a PDS. It could be on cards, tape, disk, drum, cell, display terminal/keyboard, and now file system. Nowadays, there are numerous unnecessary restrictions in both directions. Consider AMATERSE. AMATERSE won't accept a DD name referring to a UNIX file as its archive data set, notwithstanding that many customers promptly copy the Terse archive to a UNIX file (or Windows file) for transmission to tech support. And, why does ISPF require me to copy a UNIX file to a Legacy (sic!) data set in order to LMDEF that for input to LMCOPY? And I can cheat a UNIX directory as a member of my SYSEXEC concatenation, but not if it's the first catenand. Using Data Sets documents it; Rexx support says it's not supported. Where did we lose device independence? I understand that resource constraints may preclude DFSMS providing device drivers for all functions for all device types. I'm far less sympathetic to higher layers that don't perform conventional I/O (at least as a fallback) to devices that DFSMS supports. Why would compressing a file be that much different than compressing a dataset? Out-of-band record boundaries. AMATERSE knows how to deal with them; pax.Z doesn't. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Mon, 5 May 2008 11:27:41 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: I don't object to z/OS including Unix. I do object to being forced to use it for completely unrelated functions. One uses the most convenient tools available. c all /Unix/VSAM/ ... in your tirade and reset your clock a couple decades. History repeats itself. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Strange, I could have sworn you were one of the vocal dissenters when IBM did away with JOBCAT and STEPCAT. Not all progress is in the forward direction. I find it a tad inconsistent that IBM provides a Linux for those who don't want to bother with z/OS but those of us who do must deal with Unix anyway. Just out of curiosity, which editor supports that syntax. I know ISPF would use c all Unix VSAM and I have a vague recollection of vi or some Unix editor using s/Unix/VSAM but I've never seen the two mixed before. -Original Message- From: Paul Gilmartin [mailto:snip] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues One uses the most convenient tools available. c all /Unix/VSAM/ ... in your tirade and reset your clock a couple decades. History repeats itself. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Yes it's great if you are allowed to connect your system to the internet. For the rest (few?) of us who cannot, we still need maintenance. And while we are on the subject, why does an internet download have to go to a Unix file? Is there some reason SMP/E couldn't handle a normal dataset? If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. If you bought z/OS, you _DID_ buy a Unix system. :-) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:13:43 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Yes it's great if you are allowed to connect your system to the internet. For the rest (few?) of us who cannot, we still need maintenance. Get a laptop running Solaris, OS X, Linux, or Windows. Step A: - Connect the laptop to the Internet (you were able to post to this list, weren't you?) - Download the package contents to the laptop. See: Linkname: Requirements for a workstation, if used as an intermediate node URL: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/EPD1UG14/3.3 Step B: - Disconnect the laptop from the Internet, carry it into the computer room, and connect it to the LAN there. - Start an FTP server on the laptop. - Use SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNETWORK to receive the package from the laptop. I've performed Step B for all the systems mentioned except Linux, for which I nonetheless have high confidence. And while we are on the subject, why does an internet download have to go to a Unix file? Is there some reason SMP/E couldn't handle a normal dataset? If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. Because UNIX is simpler, easier to use, and allowed implementation of the function with only base z/OS software. I was not privy to the design considerations, but I imagine the designers wanted an archive scheme that was available with base z/OS; and could be used with a non-z/OS-peculiar server. Compression is also desirable. What are the options?: o TSO TRANSMIT? Widely used, but requires TSO TMP. I suppose a requirement to run SMP/E under TSO or vice-versa was unattractive. And the format is not compressed, but quite the opposite with a high overhead. o AMATERSE? Not in base z/OS at the time the facility was developed. o ADRDSSU? Don't know. Is it Internet-friendly? And I lately discovered that there's a rule that to unpack an ADRDSSU archive the user must have read access in the profile governing the original data set name, even when unpacking to a different name; a clear impediment to portability. I understand the rationale for this rule, but it could have been relaxed somewhat and still achieved its objective. I suppose the first scheme they found that met the criteria was the pax.Z format common in UNIX. But why didn't they abandon relative files and put everything inline with GIMDTS, compressed with GIMCPTS? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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exactly, and it has included Unix for quite awhile now, O/E first showed up with MVS V4 - Original Message - From: Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 1:21 AM Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Barry Schwarz writes: If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. You did. :-) z/OS includes UNIX(TM). - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Yes it's great if you are allowed to connect your system to the internet. For the rest (few?) of us who cannot, we still need maintenance. And while we are on the subject, why does an internet download have to go to a Unix file? Is there some reason SMP/E couldn't handle a normal dataset? If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. You did buy one! z/OS is UNIX, ... and more! You get two clickclick two clickclick two systems in one! (pardons to the Doublemint Gum people) -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1.9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I had some issues with the system, but not like you are talking about. Oh, and when you re-order it might ALL come in again! I had to order twice and got two shipments. I also opened an issue and got just the tapes. BTW, we got ours on two 3590 compressed tapes. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/02/2008 01:48:02 PM: -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues --- Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1. 9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I have even worst horror stories with shopZ. I have 2 new processors. But shopz shows 1 new processor and 2 old ones that we no longer have. I have been on the phone with Shopz and IBM to clear this up. I hope I can get my z/OS v1r9 order before long because I have it planned to be implemented before Sept this year. Edouard A. Myers Senior Information Technology Specialist Office of the Chief Technology Officer DC Government 222 Massachusetts Ave, NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20001 Phone : 202-727-4017 Fax: 202-727-3880 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.octo.dc.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1.9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Haven't had that particular issue. ordered z/OS 1.8 from Shopzseries in October 2006 and it did the download just fine, no license issues. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I think it's a pain in the rear end. I'm going to be doing a serverpac for 1.9 in a couple of months; plan to order it on tape by phone to bypass all that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, 02 May, 2008 01:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1.9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Lizette, I ran into this when I ordered 1.7, but I had uploaded a fresh (and complete) consolidated inventory report, so it just caused a minor delay and a phone call to get the process moving again. When I ordered 1.8 (just under the wire time wise), I had to order without a consolidated inventory report because my 1.7 wasn't installed yet. I did the same thing you did for a couple of products, also not realizing how painful that would be. Anyway, while I was a Share in Tampa, (Feb 07) this issue came up in one of the sessions. Apparently, there have been quite a few folks who have tried to slip in a few extra products, causing lots of upset too. After the first sign in page for Shop zSeries there is a link for My Licensed Software. You get the report immediately and it includes all the info you might need to verify with an invoice, including dates for all of the software that Shop zSeries has you licensed for. I have found that report most helpful in that if anything is not as it should be, it is much easier to correct before you do your Shop zSeries order. Depending on the products, you might not have to resubmit your order. My understanding is that dynamic activation products ship with every order, so you could turn then on later with the parmlib update. Have you tried internet delivery for your ServerPac? I have done it and I like it. It's much faster. Linda Mooney -- Original message -- From: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1.9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
why would anyone bother with tapes anymore? yuck! ftp download, MUCH NICER - Original Message - From: Bonno, Tuco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:53 PM Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues I think it's a pain in the rear end. I'm going to be doing a serverpac for 1.9 in a couple of months; plan to order it on tape by phone to bypass all that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, 02 May, 2008 01:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Sorry - I must vent here. Is it just me or is ShopzSeries a poor process. Somehow they lost the fact that we were licensed for a couple of products. So when I placed my order they showed up on ADDITIONAL LICENSES screen. I selected them not knowing the problems that would cause and just blindly thought - a week or two and my z/OS V1.9 system would be available for download via the internet. During this time the website just showed Manufacturing INTERNET. As it does right now. Today 3 boxes of 3480 tapes showed up for my Serverpac. Now I have to resubmit the order after they corrected our account to show we are licensed for those products. Now another week or two before I can begin. Is it just me or does this happen often? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Linda, Yes my shop loves the internet process for serverpac. This came about because our z/OS V1.7 order was incorrectly created and somehow in that process IBM appears to have lost our license for PSF even though it is installed and properly licensed. I will definitely spend some time at the next SHARE I attend with the ShopzSeries group. I find their website is not idiot proof. Lizette []-- Snip I ran into this when I ordered 1.7, but I had uploaded a fresh (and complete) consolidated inventory report, so it just caused a minor delay and a phone call to get the process moving again. When I ordered 1.8 (just under the wire time wise), I had to order without a consolidated inventory report because my 1.7 wasn't installed yet. I did the same thing you did for a couple of products, also not realizing how painful that would be. Anyway, while I was a Share in Tampa, (Feb 07) this issue came up in one of the sessions. Apparently, there have been quite a few folks who have tried to slip in a few extra products, causing lots of upset too. After the first sign in page for Shop zSeries there is a link for My Licensed Software. You get the report immediately and it includes all the info you might need to verify with an invoice, including dates for all of the software that Shop zSeries has you licensed for. I have found that report most helpful in that if anything is not as it should be, it is much easier to correct before you do your Shop zSeries order. Depending on the products, you might not have to resubmit your order. My understanding is that dynamic activation products ship with every order, so you could turn then on later with the parmlib update. Have you tried internet delivery for your ServerPac? I have done it and I like it. It's much faster. [] -- UnSnip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Yes it's great if you are allowed to connect your system to the internet. For the rest (few?) of us who cannot, we still need maintenance. And while we are on the subject, why does an internet download have to go to a Unix file? Is there some reason SMP/E couldn't handle a normal dataset? If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. -Original Message- From: Bobbie Justice [mailto:snip] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues why would anyone bother with tapes anymore? yuck! ftp download, MUCH NICER -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I guess, your company might find it interesting to know that ftp and the internet has been around for a few months now, some of us are actually using it. . We keep a 54GB zfs file mounted at /DownloadDirector for products, serverpacs and maintenance, z/OS team uses it, DB2 team uses it, Network team uses it, CICS team uses it, etc., etc. and we run skulker to clean it up periodically - Original Message - From: Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues Yes it's great if you are allowed to connect your system to the internet. For the rest (few?) of us who cannot, we still need maintenance. And while we are on the subject, why does an internet download have to go to a Unix file? Is there some reason SMP/E couldn't handle a normal dataset? If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. -Original Message- From: Bobbie Justice [mailto:snip] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues why would anyone bother with tapes anymore? yuck! ftp download, MUCH NICER -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues
Barry Schwarz writes: If I wanted a Unix system, I would have bought one. You did. :-) z/OS includes UNIX(TM). - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop Zseries
Oops, just reread your post. My instructions are for receiving 'service'. I have no idea if the process for products is even close to the same. The methods are indeed the same for service and product orders. I don't have the specifics in front of me right now, but I believe on the Download page for the order (where you started download director) there is a link to some doc to explain the Store-and-Forward methods (store the order files on your workstation, then forward them to z/OS). However, I believe Greg's suggestion to use SMB (or NFS) to network mount the workstation files to z/OS is one of the better choices. Note that you can use the SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS command directly to process the order files this way and you don't need a separate GIMUNZIP job to unpack them. This should be explained in the referenced doc. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop Zseries
In a recent note, Shane said: Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:43:52 +1000 I still download via ftp on the host, and feed it into OMVS. The instructions for all steps (including a PC intermediary in need) were on the Shopz site as well as in the jobs themselves. I'm curious: assuming you're running an FTP client on the host to download, can't you simply do a RECEIVE FROMNETWORK? Also, to the OP, in addition to Kurt Q's suggestion of NFS or SAMBA, if you can run an FTP server on the desktop, you might download to the desktop, and point your SERVER control statement there. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop Zseries
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 08:19 -0700, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I'm curious: assuming you're running an FTP client on the host to download, can't you simply do a RECEIVE FROMNETWORK? The choice is not always mine to make. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Shop Zseries
Hi, I ordered a few products with internet delivery via Shop Zseries. I downloaded the orders to my workstation via download director. Where are the instructions to upload unwind the files ? There's a readme file that came with the order but I can't open it. Anybody know what program you need to open it ? I tried word pad, word, notepad. TIA Dean Dean Montevago Sr. Systems Specialist Visiting Nurse Service of New York (212) 609 - 5596 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop Zseries
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 15:38 -0500, Dean Montevago wrote: I ordered a few products with internet delivery via Shop Zseries. I downloaded the orders to my workstation via download director. Where are the instructions to upload unwind the files ? There's a readme file that came with the order but I can't open it. Anybody know what program you need to open it ? I tried word pad, word, notepad. I would have thought it would be on the site. Not necessarily obvious. I still download via ftp on the host, and feed it into OMVS. The instructions for all steps (including a PC intermediary in need) were on the Shopz site as well as in the jobs themselves. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shop Zseries
Since your not getting much I will try to help. When I get the email from IBM it takes me to a site that provides several links (looks something like the following): Download expires on 20 Feb 2007 Packing List for Service Order# View Now (0.045 MB) Service Overview for Order# View Now (0.092 MB) Install Instructions for Order# View Now (0.021 MB) Service Materials for Order# Download package (151 MB) directly to host using JCL job (0.008 MB) Download package (151 MB) directly to host using FTP (0.003 MB) Download to your workstation using IBM Download Director (151 MB) Download to your workstation using FTP Alternate - FTP to your workstation. Click here for details. Once I have the order downloaded (maintaining the names and directory structure from the IBM site) I make the order available to my z/OS system by copying it to an SMB mounted share in my z/OS HFS. On the web page I get, the last line says 'Alternate - FTP to your workstation' and it gives some other choices than SMB on how to make it available to your z/OS system. Pick one you like. I am pretty sure (but not positive) that the order must be placed in a UNIX file system. I seem to remember trying to figure out a way to do this with MVS data sets and gave up rather quickly (the SMB route was already established so I increased the size of the HFS and remounted it). I then use the job provided in the 'Install Instructions for Order# ' (see above as a 0.021 MB) to SMP/E receive the order by executing program GIMUNZIP (you have to change the mount point on the SMPDIR DD to the location in your HFS where you put the package and the directory structure must remain the same). Also, as is alway true in UNIX, size matters so watch the upper and lower case stuff. Here is the job I get when I select that link (minus comments and watch for line wrap): //UNZIPEXEC PGM=GIMUNZIP,PARM='HASH=NO' === NOTE 1 //SYSUT3 DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL, (50,10)) //SYSUT4 DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL, (25,5)) //SMPOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPDIR DD PATH='/u/smpe/smpnts/ORDPFX', === NOTE 2 // PATHDISP=KEEP //SYSINDD DATA,DLM=$$ GIMUNZIP ARCHDEF name=SMPPTFIN/S0001.SHOPZ.S7004159.SMPMCS.pax.Z volume=volser newname=hlq.S7004159.SMPMCS /ARCHDEF ARCHDEF name=SMPHOLD/S0002.SHOPZ.S7004159.SMPHOLD.pax.Z volume=volser newname=hlq.S7004159.SMPHOLD /ARCHDEF /GIMUNZIP $$ //REC EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,COND= (4,LT,UNZIP) //SMPCSI DD DISP=SHR, //DSN=your global csi data set name === NOTE 5 //SMPPTS DD DISP=OLD, //DSN=your SMPPTS data set name === NOTE 6 //SMPOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPRPT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLIST DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLOG DD SYSOUT=* //SMPLOGA DD DUMMY //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(2,1)),DISP= (,DELETE) //SYSUT2 DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(2,1)),DISP= (,DELETE) //SYSUT3 DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(2,1)),DISP= (,DELETE) //SYSUT4 DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(TRK,(2,1)),DISP= (,DELETE) //SMPCNTL DD DATA,DLM=$$ SETBOUNDARY (GLOBAL)
Re: Shop Zseries
Oops, just reread your post. My instructions are for receiving 'service'. I have no idea if the process for products is even close to the same. If not, ignore me, sorry. Sorry, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
