Re: Issues while trying to install COD

2014-05-15 Thread Subscribe (IBM-MAIN) Nallasivam.V
Hi,

I have tried initiating IPL step 3 times. But in each time, the Operating 
systems messages panel shows the message interface unavailable  message only. 
No other messages displaying in the screen. 

In the Guide,
Under Restore topic, the below line is mentioned as a note.

  Depending on the version of ICKDSF you used, you may need to IPL the 
tape drive to get to the
   correct location of the DFDSS program

They just mentioned the ICKDSF version in the highlighted manner. But they 
didnt specify the link between the Version and IPL process particularly. I mean 
whether its related to count(no of ipl) or something else(thru some command etc)

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Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL/ICEMAN: Grouping records

2014-05-15 Thread Toni Cecil
Many thx Kolusu, got it.


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Sri h Kolusu skol...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 Toni Cecil,

 It is quite easy to split the records into multiple files. You need to use
 OUTFIL processing.  Since you are dealing with dataset names, I believe
 that your VOLSER name starts after 44 bytes as DSName can be a max of 44
 bytes. So I assumed that the VOLSER starts at position 50.

 //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
 //SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=*
 //SORTIN   DD *
 +1+2+3+4+5+6+
 DSN1 CART1
 DSN2 CART1
 DSN3 CART1
 DSN4 CART1
 DSN5 CART2
 DSN6 CART2
 DSN7 CART3
 DSN8 CART3
 DSN9 CART3
 //CART1DD SYSOUT=*
 //CART2DD SYSOUT=*
 //CART3DD SYSOUT=*
 //SYSINDD *
   OPTION COPY
   INREC BUILD=(C'HSEND WAIT RECALL ',1,44,81:50,8)

   OUTFIL FNAMES=CART1,INCLUDE=(81,5,CH,EQ,C'CART1'),BUILD=(1,80)
   OUTFIL FNAMES=CART2,INCLUDE=(81,5,CH,EQ,C'CART2'),BUILD=(1,80)
   OUTFIL FNAMES=CART3,INCLUDE=(81,5,CH,EQ,C'CART3'),BUILD=(1,80)
 //*

 or alternatively you can use the following control cards too if you need
 to build the output differently for each output file.

 //SYSINDD *
   OPTION COPY

   OUTFIL FNAMES=CART1,INCLUDE=(50,5,CH,EQ,C'CART1'),
   BUILD=(C'HSEND WAIT RECALL ',1,44,80:X)

   OUTFIL FNAMES=CART2,INCLUDE=(50,5,CH,EQ,C'CART2'),
   BUILD=(C'HSEND WAIT RECALL ',1,44,80:X)

   OUTFIL FNAMES=CART3,INCLUDE=(50,5,CH,EQ,C'CART3'),
   BUILD=(C'HSEND WAIT RECALL ',1,44,80:X)
 //*

 Further if you have any questions please let me know

 Thanks,
 Kolusu
 DFSORT Development



 From:   Toni Cecil acbi...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
 Date:   05/14/2014 02:25 AM
 Subject:DFSORT/ICETOOL/ICEMAN: Grouping records
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 Hello,
 can you pls give me an hint about how to use DFSORT to perform the
 following?

 input dsn: FB-80 with:
 dsn tape volser
 ---
  1
 1234567890123456
 dsn1 cart1
 dsn2 cart1
 dsn3 cart1
 dsn4 cart1
 dsn5 cart2
 dsn6 cart2
 dsn7 cart3
 dsn8 cart3
 dsn9 cart3

 I want to an outfile grouped by tape volser like this:

 outfile for cart1 with:
 HSEND WAIT RECALL dsn1
 HSEND WAIT RECALL dsn2
 HSEND WAIT RECALL dsn3
 HSEND WAIT RECALL dsn4

 outfile for cart2 with:
 HSEND WAIT RECALL dsn5
 HSEND WAIT RECALL dsn6

 I've seached on Smart DFSORT Tricks manual and on DFSORT Application
 Programming Guide but so far I didn't find the way.


 Many thx, A.Cecilio

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Re: Issues while trying to install COD

2014-05-15 Thread John Eells

Please open a PMR.

(Repost to list server...sorry for the double post.)

Subscribe Nallasivam.V , IBM-MAIN wrote:

Hi,

I have tried initiating IPL step 3 times. But in each time, the Operating systems 
messages panel shows the message interface unavailable  message only. No 
other messages displaying in the screen.

In the Guide,
Under Restore topic, the below line is mentioned as a note.

   Depending on the version of ICKDSF you used, you may need to IPL 
the tape drive to get to the
correct location of the DFDSS program

They just mentioned the ICKDSF version in the highlighted manner. But they 
didnt specify the link between the Version and IPL process particularly. I mean 
whether its related to count(no of ipl) or something else(thru some command etc)



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Re: supervisor state vs. problem state

2014-05-15 Thread Peter Relson
Could having a logical processor to physical processor ratio of 
greater than 2 (e.g. 8 logicals in a 3 CP cec) be bad?

I'd say yes. 

What is it that you think you are gaining by having so many logical 
processors defined to an LPAR?
Hiperdispatch, for example, parks processors that are viewed as extra. 

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: IFASMFR

2014-05-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 14 May 2014 17:07:00 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:

By having a
dummy macro under the Operating System FMID (and supplying a SUPing
copy of the Macro in the Component) ...

It is possible to do that, not with SUP, but with VERSION. Doing so leads to 
other complications. It only works if DB2 is installed in the same target zone. 
That in turn requires that DB2 be reinstalled with each new version of the 
operating system.

There are different complications when DB2 is installed in a different target 
zone than z/OS. If both products install the macro in SYS1.MACLIB, the 
effect is that the macro is updated outside of SMP/E with respect to the 
z/OS target zone. It gets worse if there are two versions of DB2 installed.

If DB2 installs it in a different target library, care must be taken by all 
users 
of the macro to concatenate the DB2 MACLIB ahead of the z/OS MACLIB. 

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Somewhat OT: Another way to send messages to Android / iPhone / Desktop

2014-05-15 Thread John McKown
I realize that most of the people here are not likely to be interested. But
if, like me, you sometimes have problems getting timely SMS text messages
from a z/OS (or other) system, this free product might be of some interest.

https://pushover.net/

The major problem is that all the messages go through _their_ server(s).
So, of course, this means don't use it for proprietary information or other
restricted information. It appears that you cannot host your own server to
do this.

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Re: supervisor state vs. problem state

2014-05-15 Thread Staller, Allan
In my previous response I took this to mean 8 lp/3 pp spread over several 
lpars. 
I agree that on a single lpar this would be *BAD*.


snip
Could having a logical processor to physical processor ratio of greater 
than 2 (e.g. 8 logicals in a 3 CP cec) be bad?

I'd say yes. 

What is it that you think you are gaining by having so many logical processors 
defined to an LPAR?
Hiperdispatch, for example, parks processors that are viewed as extra. 

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
/snip

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Re: Somewhat OT: Another way to send messages to Android / iPhone / Desktop

2014-05-15 Thread John McKown
Sorry, it is free to send messages. But the client, installed on the
device, costs money (one time charge). For a company, they do have a bulk
rate.

If I had seen that, I would not have posted the message. I ask forgiveness.


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:25 AM, John McKown
john.archie.mck...@gmail.comwrote:

 I realize that most of the people here are not likely to be interested.
 But if, like me, you sometimes have problems getting timely SMS text
 messages from a z/OS (or other) system, this free product might be of some
 interest.

 https://pushover.net/

 The major problem is that all the messages go through _their_ server(s).
 So, of course, this means don't use it for proprietary information or other
 restricted information. It appears that you cannot host your own server to
 do this.

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 Maranatha! 
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FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread John Dawes
G'Day,

I am trying to find the CLUSTER name of the VSAM components.  We have a daily 
diagnose job run on the volumes and it picked up the DATA  INDEX components.  

IDC3302I  ACTION ERROR ON SYS1.ICFCAT.APPLIC  
IDC3351I ** VSAM I/O RETURN CODE IS 16  - RPLFDBWD = X'93080010'   
IDC21364I ERROR DETECTED BY DIAGNOSE:  
  VVDS ENTRY: HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA (Z)  
  RECORD: X'0002C9AB'  
  OFFSET: X'0002'  
  REASON: 19 - CATLG ENTRY NOT FOUND   
IDC21365I VVDS RECORD DISPLAY: 
  RECORD: X'0002C9AB'   

I do not want to delete them because I do not know who is the owner also, I do 
not know the impact it could cause.  I would like to recatalog the CLUSTER 
however I do not know how I should go about finding the name.

Can anybody suggest something that could help me track down the CLUSTER name?

Thanks.

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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread Staller, Allan
LISTC ENT(' HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA') ALL 

The cluster name will be in the specified in the output.
The most likely name is ' HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE'

snip
I am trying to find the CLUSTER name of the VSAM components.  We have a daily 
diagnose job run on the volumes and it picked up the DATA  INDEX components.  

IDC3302I  ACTION ERROR ON SYS1.ICFCAT.APPLIC  
IDC3351I ** VSAM I/O RETURN CODE IS 16  - RPLFDBWD = X'93080010'   
IDC21364I ERROR DETECTED BY DIAGNOSE:  
  VVDS ENTRY: HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA (Z)  
  RECORD: X'0002C9AB'  
  OFFSET: X'0002'  
  REASON: 19 - CATLG ENTRY NOT FOUND   
IDC21365I VVDS RECORD DISPLAY: 
  RECORD: X'0002C9AB'   

I do not want to delete them because I do not know who is the owner also, I do 
not know the impact it could cause.  I would like to recatalog the CLUSTER 
however I do not know how I should go about finding the name.

Can anybody suggest something that could help me track down the CLUSTER name?
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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread John Dawes
Allan,

I tried out your suggestion however it didn't work :

 LISTC ENT('HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA') ALL 
IDC3012I ENTRY HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA NOT FOUND  
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 8 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEG-42
IDC1566I ** HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA NOT LISTED
IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES   


On Thu, 15/5/14, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, 15 May, 2014, 11:42 PM
 
 LISTC ENT('
 HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA') ALL 
 
 The cluster name will be in the specified in
 the output.
 The most likely name is '
 HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE'
 
 snip
 I am trying to find the
 CLUSTER name of the VSAM components.  We have a daily
 diagnose job run on the volumes and it picked up the DATA
  INDEX components.  
 
 IDC3302I  ACTION ERROR ON SYS1.ICFCAT.APPLIC 
                             
 IDC3351I ** VSAM I/O RETURN CODE IS 16  -
 RPLFDBWD = X'93080010'           
 IDC21364I ERROR DETECTED BY DIAGNOSE:     
                                 
   VVDS ENTRY: HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA (Z)   
                               
   RECORD: X'0002C9AB'           
                                        
   
   OFFSET: X'0002'         
                                        
         
   REASON: 19 - CATLG ENTRY NOT
 FOUND                                   
    
 IDC21365I VVDS RECORD
 DISPLAY:                                 
            
   RECORD:
 X'0002C9AB'           
 
 I do not want to delete them
 because I do not know who is the owner also, I do not know
 the impact it could cause.  I would like to recatalog the
 CLUSTER however I do not know how I should go about finding
 the name.
 
 Can anybody
 suggest something that could help me track down the CLUSTER
 name?
 /snip
 
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TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread MichealButz
Hi,

 

I am doing TSO TPUT’s in Full screen mode I copied some code from the
following URL www.tommysprinkle.com/mvs/P3270/sbaxlate.com

 

Which has code to translate a ROW and COLUMN into a sba (screen buffer
address) 

 

I have 10 lines which I try to TPUT in lines 1 – 10 using the following
codes X’11XXYY1DF8’ where XX and YY is the screen buffer address. I do fine
till row 5

 

After which my TSO terminal emulater gives me error invald buffer address
2260 as I have a 24 x 80 screen wih 1.920 postions the sba code is E3 D4

 

Listed below ithe code used to translate the the row and column 

 

 

Thanks

 

SET_BUF  DS   0H   

 ST   XLNK,SAVE_BUF

 L R0,ROW  

 L R1,COL  

 BCTR  R0,0

 BCTR  R1,0

 MHR0,=H'80'   

 ARR1,R0   

 SLL   R1,2

 STCM  R1,B'0010',SBACMD   

 SRL   R1,2

 STCM  R1,B'0001',SBACMD+1 

 NCSBACMD(2),=X'3F3F'  

 TRSBACMD(2),TABLE 

 L XLNK,SAVE_BUF   

 BRXLNK 

 

 

TABLEDCX'40C1C2C3C4C5C6C7C8C94A4B4C4D4E4F'   ABCDEFGHI¢.(+|  

 DCX'50D1D2D3D4D5D6D7D8D95A5B5C5D5E5F'  JKLMNOPQR!$*);¬  

 DCX'6061E2E3E4E5E6E7E8E96A6B6C6D6E6F'  -/STUVWXYZ¦,%_?  

 DCX'F0F1F2F3F4F5F6F7F8F97A7B7C7D7E7F'  0123456789:#@'=



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Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread Greg Price
I agree that decimal location 2260 could be addressed by using the 3270 
order x'11E3D4' in 12-bit addressing mode.


For a 24 by 80 screen, column 1 of row 5 means decimal location 4 x 80 
which is 320.  For this location I would expect the order x'11C540'.


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V2.1 TCPIP Obey SYNTAXCHECK Coexistence

2014-05-15 Thread Patrick Lyon
Hi All.  Posting here and on the TCPIP list.

In doing some dynamic VIPA changes with an associate, the coded OBEY member had 
some syntax issues.

I went searching for a syntax type check that can be done prior and found in 
V2.1 of z/OS they added the SYNTAXCHECK parameter.

I've done extensive googling and the like and cannot find if this is rolled 
back to V1.13 via coexistence maintenance or not?

Any knowledge would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread Staller, Allan
Looking back at the OP, it seems that a) someone has issued a DEL NSCR on the 
cluster, or b) someone wiped out a volume without properly deleting the data.

I would try DEF CL(HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE) VOL(XX) RECATALOG). There are a 
number of caveats here. There are a fair number of attributes that must be 
present on the DEF RECAT request and these must match the attributes of the 
original cluster. E.g. If the original cluster was a KSDS, the INDEXED keyword 
must be added to the DEF RECAT request. 
If something is missing or incorrectly specified, the IDC3009I message will 
indicate the possibilities. There are too many to cover in a brief email.

Try to find a recent catalog listing if possible. Otherwise guess, correct, 
retry. Repeat until successful.
Is a backup/dump available? If so, delete the cluster components and recover 
from backup/dump (see below).
Is it possible the cluster has been redefined somewhere else? (after the DEL 
NSCR)

If all else fails, there is no risk in deleting the component(s), since no one 
can access the data.

To delete the component, use IDCAMS in batch:

DEL HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA VVR FILE(DD1) 

Where DD1 points to the volume in question.

HTH,

snip
I tried out your suggestion however it didn't work :

 LISTC ENT('HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA') ALL 
IDC3012I ENTRY HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA NOT FOUND  
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 8 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEG-42
IDC1566I ** HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA NOT LISTED
IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES   


On Thu, 15/5/14, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, 15 May, 2014, 11:42 PM
 
 LISTC ENT('
 HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA') ALL 
 
 The cluster name will be in the specified in  the output.
 The most likely name is '
 HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE'
 
 snip
 I am trying to find the
 CLUSTER name of the VSAM components.  We have a daily  diagnose job run on the 
volumes and it picked up the DATA   INDEX components.  
 
 IDC3302I  ACTION ERROR ON SYS1.ICFCAT.APPLIC 
                             
 IDC3351I ** VSAM I/O RETURN CODE IS 16  -  RPLFDBWD = X'93080010'  IDC21364I 
ERROR DETECTED BY DIAGNOSE:     
                                 
   VVDS ENTRY: HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA (Z)   
                               
   RECORD: X'0002C9AB'           
                                        
   
   OFFSET: X'0002'         
                                        
         
   REASON: 19 - CATLG ENTRY NOT
 FOUND                                   
    
 IDC21365I VVDS RECORD
 DISPLAY:                                 
            
   RECORD:
 X'0002C9AB'           
 
 I do not want to delete them
 because I do not know who is the owner also, I do not know  the impact it 
could cause.  I would like to recatalog the  CLUSTER however I do not know how 
I should go about finding  the name.
 
 Can anybody
 suggest something that could help me track down the CLUSTER  name?
 /snip
 
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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread Greg Price

On 15/05/2014 11:42 PM, Staller, Allan wrote:

LISTC ENT(' HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA') ALL

The cluster name will be in the specified in the output.
The most likely name is ' HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE'


What Allan said

Of course, the catalog entry may not exist, hence the problem.
Also check for non-VSAM entries of the same name pointing to DFHSM 
migrated data sets (if you run DFHSM, of course).


If you would like proof of the cluster name without relying on the 
odds-on likelihood that the cluster name is the data component name with 
the trailing .DATA chopped off, then you could browse the contents of 
the VVDS where the names should appear in plain text.


I have not done so for years, but to browse VVDS - and BCS for that 
matter - files I used to use an APF authorized alias of the public 
domain REVIEW command. REVIEW contains no MODESET macros - the system 
lets normal VSAM OPEN process BCS and VVDS files (for INPUT, anyway) if 
the environment is APF authorized. At least, it did a few years back, 
and I have not heard of any changes in this area.


And I should also say that for every other use of REVIEW (available from 
the CBT tape) it is best to not run it APF authorized. For one thing, 
as a rule ISPF does not like its services being invoked in an APF 
authorized environment.


Topic drifting ever so slightly, time was when BSAM could read VSAM 
components. Around 1986 it even seemed to bypass RACF, but the RACF hole 
was soon plugged. DFP V2R4 introduced the requirement that DCB (input 
only) access to VSAM required APF authorization, but that only worked 
when the VSAM component being opened did not have more than 16 extents. 
Ah, good times...

:)

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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread John Dawes
Thanks Allan for your help.

On Fri, 16/5/14, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Friday, 16 May, 2014, 12:10 AM
 
 Looking back at the OP,
 it seems that a) someone has issued a DEL NSCR on the
 cluster, or b) someone wiped out a volume without properly
 deleting the data.
 
 I would
 try DEF CL(HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE) VOL(XX) RECATALOG). There
 are a number of caveats here. There are a fair number of
 attributes that must be present on the DEF RECAT request and
 these must match the attributes of the original cluster.
 E.g. If the original cluster was a KSDS, the INDEXED keyword
 must be added to the DEF RECAT request. 
 If
 something is missing or incorrectly specified, the IDC3009I
 message will indicate the possibilities. There are too many
 to cover in a brief email.
 
 Try to find a recent catalog listing if
 possible. Otherwise guess, correct, retry. Repeat until
 successful.
 Is a backup/dump available? If
 so, delete the cluster components and recover from
 backup/dump (see below).
 Is it possible the
 cluster has been redefined somewhere else? (after the DEL
 NSCR)
 
 If all else fails,
 there is no risk in deleting the component(s), since no one
 can access the data.
 
 To
 delete the component, use IDCAMS in batch:
 
 DEL HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA
 VVR FILE(DD1) 
 
 Where DD1
 points to the volume in question.
 
 HTH,
 
 snip
 I tried out your
 suggestion however it didn't work :
 
  LISTC ENT('HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA')
 ALL                             
 IDC3012I ENTRY HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA NOT
 FOUND                      
 IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 8 -
 REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEG-42
 IDC1566I **
 HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA NOT LISTED                 
       
 IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES   
    
 
 
 On Thu, 15/5/14, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re:
 FINDING CLUSTER NAME
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Received: Thursday, 15 May, 2014, 11:42 PM
  
  LISTC ENT('
  HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA') ALL 
  
  The cluster name will be in
 the specified in  the output.
  The most
 likely name is '
 
 HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE'
  
 
 snip
  I am trying to find the
  CLUSTER name of the VSAM components.  We have
 a daily  diagnose job run on the volumes and it picked up
 the DATA   INDEX components.  
  
  IDC3302I  ACTION ERROR ON
 SYS1.ICFCAT.APPLIC 
               
               
  IDC3351I ** VSAM I/O
 RETURN CODE IS 16  -  RPLFDBWD = X'93080010' 
 IDC21364I ERROR DETECTED BY DIAGNOSE:     
                               
   
    VVDS ENTRY: HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA
 (Z)   
                       
         
    RECORD:
 X'0002C9AB'           
     
                                    
    
    OFFSET:
 X'0002'         
         
                                
          
    REASON: 19 -
 CATLG ENTRY NOT
  FOUND             
                      
     
  IDC21365I VVDS RECORD
 
 DISPLAY:                               
  
             
   
 RECORD:
  X'0002C9AB'       
    
  
  I do not want to
 delete them
  because I do not know who is
 the owner also, I do not know  the impact it could cause. 
 I would like to recatalog the  CLUSTER however I do not
 know how I should go about finding  the name.
  
  Can anybody
 
 suggest something that could help me track down the
 CLUSTER  name?
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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread Pommier, Rex
What Allan and Greg said

Of course, if you want the proof of the cluster name and you don't have REVIEW 
installed, you can simply do an IDCAMS PRINT against the VVDS dataset on the 
volume where the .DATA resides to find the associated cluster name.  I did 
this last week.  :-)

Rex

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Subject: Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

On 15/05/2014 11:42 PM, Staller, Allan wrote:
 LISTC ENT(' HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA') ALL

 The cluster name will be in the specified in the output.
 The most likely name is ' HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE'

What Allan said

Of course, the catalog entry may not exist, hence the problem.
Also check for non-VSAM entries of the same name pointing to DFHSM 
migrated data sets (if you run DFHSM, of course).

If you would like proof of the cluster name without relying on the 
odds-on likelihood that the cluster name is the data component name with 
the trailing .DATA chopped off, then you could browse the contents of 
the VVDS where the names should appear in plain text.

I have not done so for years, but to browse VVDS - and BCS for that 
matter - files I used to use an APF authorized alias of the public 
domain REVIEW command. REVIEW contains no MODESET macros - the system 
lets normal VSAM OPEN process BCS and VVDS files (for INPUT, anyway) if 
the environment is APF authorized. At least, it did a few years back, 
and I have not heard of any changes in this area.

And I should also say that for every other use of REVIEW (available from 
the CBT tape) it is best to not run it APF authorized. For one thing, 
as a rule ISPF does not like its services being invoked in an APF 
authorized environment.

Topic drifting ever so slightly, time was when BSAM could read VSAM 
components. Around 1986 it even seemed to bypass RACF, but the RACF hole 
was soon plugged. DFP V2R4 introduced the requirement that DCB (input 
only) access to VSAM required APF authorization, but that only worked 
when the VSAM component being opened did not have more than 16 extents. 
Ah, good times...
:)

Cheers,
Greg

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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread Jon Perryman
The VVDS will also show the catalog name where it should be cataloged.

Jon Perryman


On Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:39 AM, Pommier, Rex rpomm...@sfgmembers.com 
wrote:
 
What Allan and Greg said

Of course, if you want the proof of the cluster name and you don't have REVIEW 
installed, you can simply do an IDCAMS PRINT against the VVDS dataset on the 
volume where the .DATA resides to find the associated cluster name.  I did 
this last week.  :-)


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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread Pommier, Rex
Good point, Jon.  I had thought of mentioning a potentially mis-cataloged 
dataset earlier but had forgotten that when I posted my note.

Rex

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The VVDS will also show the catalog name where it should be cataloged.

Jon Perryman


On Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:39 AM, Pommier, Rex rpomm...@sfgmembers.com 
wrote:
 
What Allan and Greg said

Of course, if you want the proof of the cluster name and you don't have REVIEW 
installed, you can simply do an IDCAMS PRINT against the VVDS dataset on the 
volume where the .DATA resides to find the associated cluster name.  I did 
this last week.  :-)


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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread John Clifford
John,

  If you issue a listcat on the DATA or INDEX it should show the
CLUSTER---x  name unless the cluster was 'deleted noscratch' which
removes the name from the catalog and leaves the data/index files on dasd.
Is this what you are encountering ???


John Clifford
IBM Consultant



On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:36 AM, John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au wrote:

 G'Day,

 I am trying to find the CLUSTER name of the VSAM components.  We have a
 daily diagnose job run on the volumes and it picked up the DATA  INDEX
 components.

 IDC3302I  ACTION ERROR ON SYS1.ICFCAT.APPLIC
 IDC3351I ** VSAM I/O RETURN CODE IS 16  - RPLFDBWD = X'93080010'
 IDC21364I ERROR DETECTED BY DIAGNOSE:
   VVDS ENTRY: HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DATA (Z)
   RECORD: X'0002C9AB'
   OFFSET: X'0002'
   REASON: 19 - CATLG ENTRY NOT FOUND
 IDC21365I VVDS RECORD DISPLAY:
   RECORD: X'0002C9AB'

 I do not want to delete them because I do not know who is the owner also,
 I do not know the impact it could cause.  I would like to recatalog the
 CLUSTER however I do not know how I should go about finding the name.

 Can anybody suggest something that could help me track down the CLUSTER
 name?

 Thanks.

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IBM still looking at more challenges than opportunities

2014-05-15 Thread Dave Jones
I think this article is of interest to a lot of the list
readership..this might no be a good time to get into the IT business.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/ibm-still-looking-at-more-challenges-than-opportunities-141439978.html

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Is there an SMP/E list somewhere out there?

2014-05-15 Thread Hardee, Chuck
I have some SMP/E questions and I am curious if there is an SMP/E list floating 
about somewhere.
If any knows of one, would you kindly point me to it?
Thanks,
Chuck

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CCG Information Technology
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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread Jon Perryman
Listcat for the data / index will not always work. The HLQ of the data / index 
is not necessarily pointing to the correct catalog. E.g. ALTER  'AAA.BBB.DATA') 
NEWNAME('DDD.EEE.DATA'). 

Jon Perryman. 


On Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:31 AM, John Clifford johnrcl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
If you issue a listcat on the DATA or INDEX it should show the
CLUSTER---x  name unless the cluster was 'deleted noscratch' which
removes the name from the catalog and leaves the data/index files on dasd.
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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread John Dawes
Jon,

I ran the IDCAM PRINT of the VVDS and this is what it shows:

*...)Z..HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DA*
*TA..HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE..SYS1.ICF*
*CAT.APPLIC.HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE..*
*.. {...*
**
*..{.*
*..STANDARDINTMOIN...*
*.-..*
*-. *
**
**
*.. .*
*... *
  
*...;Z..HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.IN*
*DEX..HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE..SYS1.IC*
*FCAT.APPLIC.Z8002D.TEST.DEFINE.*
**

Just to confirm that I am looking in the right place for the CLUSTER is it 
found after the SYS1.ICFCAT.APPLI or is listed after the .DATA..?
 

On Fri, 16/5/14, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Subject: Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Friday, 16 May, 2014, 1:10 AM
 
 The VVDS will also show the catalog
 name where it should be cataloged.
 
 Jon Perryman
 
 
 On Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:39 AM, Pommier, Rex rpomm...@sfgmembers.com
 wrote:
  
 What Allan and Greg said
 
 Of course, if you want the proof of the cluster name and
 you don't have REVIEW installed, you can simply do an IDCAMS
 PRINT against the VVDS dataset on the volume where the
 .DATA resides to find the associated cluster name.  I did
 this last week.  :-)
 
 
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Re: Is there an SMP/E list somewhere out there?

2014-05-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
You can post on IBMMAIN.  We know a lot (collectively) about SMP/E

Lizette


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 Subject: Is there an SMP/E list somewhere out there?
 
 I have some SMP/E questions and I am curious if there is an SMP/E list
floating
 about somewhere.
 If any knows of one, would you kindly point me to it?
 Thanks,
 Chuck
 
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Re: Is there an SMP/E list somewhere out there?

2014-05-15 Thread Hardee, Chuck
I was going to initially but some many get chastised for posting questions here 
when there is another list available I thought I would ask first.


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You can post on IBMMAIN.  We know a lot (collectively) about SMP/E

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 Subject: Is there an SMP/E list somewhere out there?
 
 I have some SMP/E questions and I am curious if there is an SMP/E list
floating
 about somewhere.
 If any knows of one, would you kindly point me to it?
 Thanks,
 Chuck
 
 Charles (Chuck) Hardee
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SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Hardee, Chuck
I have a vendor product that provides for a customization of the product via a 
load module.
The load module is a table of exits that are called at certain points in the 
product to allow the user to make decision, perform additional functions, etc.

At our site, this module had been set up to take advantage of 5 different exit 
points.
I have created the 5 different exit modules and successfully set them up in 
SMP/E as usermods.
I have also created the vendor's required table module defining the 5 
different modules as a usermod and have successfully created the final load 
module.

All looks as it should, however, if I change the source of one of the exit 
modules and perform an APPLY REDO, the exit is assembled and saved, but the 
table module is not linked.

The table module's linked command includes an INCLUDE for each of the 
required exit modules, which I thought was how SMP/E knew to monitor those 
modules for change and perform the relink should any one of them change.

I am a bit rusty on creating SMP/E from scratch so I believe I am missing 
something.

Any ideas of what I may have missed in the usermod(s)?

Thanks,
Chuck

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Re: IBM still looking at more challenges than opportunities

2014-05-15 Thread zMan
Tsk, computers are a passing fad.


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.comwrote:

 I think this article is of interest to a lot of the list
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Re: Is there an SMP/E list somewhere out there?

2014-05-15 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Chuck,
80% of most people here is smp (tx to ibm reducing z/os version cycle ;-)
). No better plave to ask smp questions!

ITschak
בתאריך 15 במאי 2014 19:20, Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com
כתב:

 I was going to initially but some many get chastised for posting questions
 here when there is another list available I thought I would ask first.


 Charles (Chuck) Hardee
 Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
 CCG Information Technology
 Thermo Fisher Scientific
 300 Industry Drive
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 Direct: 724-517-2633
 FAX: 412-490-9230
 chuck.har...@thermofisher.com

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:15 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Is there an SMP/E list somewhere out there?

 You can post on IBMMAIN.  We know a lot (collectively) about SMP/E

 Lizette


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  Behalf Of Hardee, Chuck
  Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:01 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Is there an SMP/E list somewhere out there?
 
  I have some SMP/E questions and I am curious if there is an SMP/E list
 floating
  about somewhere.
  If any knows of one, would you kindly point me to it?
  Thanks,
  Chuck
 
  Charles (Chuck) Hardee
  Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration CCG Information
 Technology
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Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread CM Poncelet
If your APPLY REDO was for the usermod only, I would suggest that you do 
another APPLY REDO for the table module and/or for the final load 
module too if you created your final load module via SMP/E. Failing 
that, have you tried an APPLY REDO GROUP for your usermod?


Hardee, Chuck wrote:


I have a vendor product that provides for a customization of the product via a 
load module.
The load module is a table of exits that are called at certain points in the 
product to allow the user to make decision, perform additional functions, etc.

At our site, this module had been set up to take advantage of 5 different exit 
points.
I have created the 5 different exit modules and successfully set them up in 
SMP/E as usermods.
I have also created the vendor's required table module defining the 5 
different modules as a usermod and have successfully created the final load module.

All looks as it should, however, if I change the source of one of the exit modules and 
perform an APPLY REDO, the exit is assembled and saved, but the table module 
is not linked.

The table module's linked command includes an INCLUDE for each of the 
required exit modules, which I thought was how SMP/E knew to monitor those modules for 
change and perform the relink should any one of them change.

I am a bit rusty on creating SMP/E from scratch so I believe I am missing 
something.

Any ideas of what I may have missed in the usermod(s)?

Thanks,
Chuck

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Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Itschak Mugzach
​It look like the problem is related to the binder and not to SMP. You
should review all messages starting with IEW in smp/e SYSPRINT dataset to
ensure that binder was called and if so, what is the error.

ITschak ​


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:46 PM, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk wrote:

 If your APPLY REDO was for the usermod only, I would suggest that you do
 another APPLY REDO for the table module and/or for the final load module
 too if you created your final load module via SMP/E. Failing that, have you
 tried an APPLY REDO GROUP for your usermod?

 Hardee, Chuck wrote:

  I have a vendor product that provides for a customization of the product
 via a load module.
 The load module is a table of exits that are called at certain points
 in the product to allow the user to make decision, perform additional
 functions, etc.

 At our site, this module had been set up to take advantage of 5 different
 exit points.
 I have created the 5 different exit modules and successfully set them up
 in SMP/E as usermods.
 I have also created the vendor's required table module defining the 5
 different modules as a usermod and have successfully created the final load
 module.

 All looks as it should, however, if I change the source of one of the
 exit modules and perform an APPLY REDO, the exit is assembled and saved,
 but the table module is not linked.

 The table module's linked command includes an INCLUDE for each of the
 required exit modules, which I thought was how SMP/E knew to monitor those
 modules for change and perform the relink should any one of them change.

 I am a bit rusty on creating SMP/E from scratch so I believe I am missing
 something.

 Any ideas of what I may have missed in the usermod(s)?

 Thanks,
 Chuck

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 CCG Information Technology
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Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Hardee, Chuck
Thanks!
I added GROUP to one of the APPLY REDOs for one of the exit usermods and now 
the user mod gets assembled and the table module gets relinked.
Exactly what I wanted.

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Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module 
with maintenance

If your APPLY REDO was for the usermod only, I would suggest that you do 
another APPLY REDO for the table module and/or for the final load 
module too if you created your final load module via SMP/E. Failing 
that, have you tried an APPLY REDO GROUP for your usermod?

Hardee, Chuck wrote:

I have a vendor product that provides for a customization of the product via a 
load module.
The load module is a table of exits that are called at certain points in the 
product to allow the user to make decision, perform additional functions, etc.

At our site, this module had been set up to take advantage of 5 different exit 
points.
I have created the 5 different exit modules and successfully set them up in 
SMP/E as usermods.
I have also created the vendor's required table module defining the 5 
different modules as a usermod and have successfully created the final load 
module.

All looks as it should, however, if I change the source of one of the exit 
modules and perform an APPLY REDO, the exit is assembled and saved, but the 
table module is not linked.

The table module's linked command includes an INCLUDE for each of the 
required exit modules, which I thought was how SMP/E knew to monitor those 
modules for change and perform the relink should any one of them change.

I am a bit rusty on creating SMP/E from scratch so I believe I am missing 
something.

Any ideas of what I may have missed in the usermod(s)?

Thanks,
Chuck

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
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Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Skip Robinson
Here's how we handle our usermod for SMF exit IEEACTRT. The usermod also 
marks the corresponding SAMPLIB member so as to cause a regression message 
if IBM's version changes. REWORK documents the date of last APPLY. This 
job assembles our source and links everything together. 


//STEP1 EXEC SMPR13 
//SYSIN DD * 
 SET  BDY (GLOBAL) . 
  RECEIVE SYSMODS . 
 SET  BDY (MVST100) . 
  APPLY S(SMFACT2) REDO . 
 UCLIN . 
   REP SAMP(IEEACTRT) RMID(SMFACT2) /* IN CASE SAMPLE CHANGES */ . 
 ENDUCL . 
//SMPPTFIN DD   DATA,DLM=$$ 
++USERMOD (SMFACT2) REWORK(20133432) . 
++VER (Z038)  FMID (HBB7780) . 
++JCLIN . 
//SMFACT2  EXEC LINKS,PARM='XREF,LIST,LET,NCAL,RENT' 
//SYSLMOD  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.LINKLIB 
//AOSB3DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.AOSB3 
//SYSLIN   DD * 
  ORDER SCEACTMS 
  INCLUDE AOSB3(SCEACTMS) 
  INCLUDE AOSB3(IEFTB724) /* CONTAINS IEFYS */ 
  ENTRY SCEACTMS 
  MODE AMODE(31) RMODE(ANY) 
  NAME SCEACTMS(R) 
++SRC(SCEACTMS) DISTLIB(ASAMPLIB) . 
Our modification of SAMPLIB source
$$

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From:   Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   05/15/2014 10:08 AM
Subject:Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a 
load module with maintenance
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Thanks!
I added GROUP to one of the APPLY REDOs for one of the exit usermods and 
now the user mod gets assembled and the table module gets relinked.
Exactly what I wanted.

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
300 Industry Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
Direct: 724-517-2633
FAX: 412-490-9230
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
Behalf Of CM Poncelet
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load 
module with maintenance

If your APPLY REDO was for the usermod only, I would suggest that you do 
another APPLY REDO for the table module and/or for the final load 
module too if you created your final load module via SMP/E. Failing 
that, have you tried an APPLY REDO GROUP for your usermod?

Hardee, Chuck wrote:

I have a vendor product that provides for a customization of the product 
via a load module.
The load module is a table of exits that are called at certain points 
in the product to allow the user to make decision, perform additional 
functions, etc.

At our site, this module had been set up to take advantage of 5 different 
exit points.
I have created the 5 different exit modules and successfully set them up 
in SMP/E as usermods.
I have also created the vendor's required table module defining the 5 
different modules as a usermod and have successfully created the final 
load module.

All looks as it should, however, if I change the source of one of the 
exit modules and perform an APPLY REDO, the exit is assembled and saved, 
but the table module is not linked.

The table module's linked command includes an INCLUDE for each of the 
required exit modules, which I thought was how SMP/E knew to monitor those 
modules for change and perform the relink should any one of them change.

I am a bit rusty on creating SMP/E from scratch so I believe I am missing 
something.

Any ideas of what I may have missed in the usermod(s)?

Thanks,
Chuck

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
300 Industry Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
Direct: 724-517-2633
FAX: 412-490-9230
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com



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Re: FINDING CLUSTER NAME

2014-05-15 Thread Jon Perryman
Since the VVR layout is OCO, you will have to make a best guess. I personally 
would have thought it followed the data. Since it matches the value after the 
catalog, then it's a safe bet that is the cluster name.

The INDEX looks suspicious because it has Z8002D.TEST.DEFINE after the catalog 
name. You could run DIAGNOSE VVDS to see what it says . I've never run into the 
situation where they don't match. If diagnose doesn't report a problem, then 
you should try listcat on this cluster name. 

Jon Perryman


On Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:11 AM, John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 

*...)Z..HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.DA*
*TA..HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE..SYS1.ICF*
*CAT.APPLIC.HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE..*
                                  
*...;Z..HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE.IN*
*DEX..HESP.BALFWD.DEFINE..SYS1.IC*
*FCAT.APPLIC.Z8002D.TEST.DEFINE.*
**

Just to confirm that I am looking in the right place for the CLUSTER is it 
found after the SYS1.ICFCAT.APPLI or is listed after the .DATA..?


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Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Hardee, Chuck
Thanks Skip, I'll look it over and compare it to mine.
Mine's working now but your process may be easier than what I've set up.

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
300 Industry Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
Direct: 724-517-2633
FAX: 412-490-9230
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Skip Robinson
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:53 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module 
with maintenance

Here's how we handle our usermod for SMF exit IEEACTRT. The usermod also 
marks the corresponding SAMPLIB member so as to cause a regression message 
if IBM's version changes. REWORK documents the date of last APPLY. This 
job assembles our source and links everything together. 


//STEP1 EXEC SMPR13 
//SYSIN DD * 
 SET  BDY (GLOBAL) . 
  RECEIVE SYSMODS . 
 SET  BDY (MVST100) . 
  APPLY S(SMFACT2) REDO . 
 UCLIN . 
   REP SAMP(IEEACTRT) RMID(SMFACT2) /* IN CASE SAMPLE CHANGES */ . 
 ENDUCL . 
//SMPPTFIN DD   DATA,DLM=$$ 
++USERMOD (SMFACT2) REWORK(20133432) . 
++VER (Z038)  FMID (HBB7780) . 
++JCLIN . 
//SMFACT2  EXEC LINKS,PARM='XREF,LIST,LET,NCAL,RENT' 
//SYSLMOD  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.LINKLIB 
//AOSB3DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.AOSB3 
//SYSLIN   DD * 
  ORDER SCEACTMS 
  INCLUDE AOSB3(SCEACTMS) 
  INCLUDE AOSB3(IEFTB724) /* CONTAINS IEFYS */ 
  ENTRY SCEACTMS 
  MODE AMODE(31) RMODE(ANY) 
  NAME SCEACTMS(R) 
++SRC(SCEACTMS) DISTLIB(ASAMPLIB) . 
Our modification of SAMPLIB source
$$

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
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626-302-7535 Office
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From:   Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   05/15/2014 10:08 AM
Subject:Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a 
load module with maintenance
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



Thanks!
I added GROUP to one of the APPLY REDOs for one of the exit usermods and 
now the user mod gets assembled and the table module gets relinked.
Exactly what I wanted.

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
300 Industry Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
Direct: 724-517-2633
FAX: 412-490-9230
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
Behalf Of CM Poncelet
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load 
module with maintenance

If your APPLY REDO was for the usermod only, I would suggest that you do 
another APPLY REDO for the table module and/or for the final load 
module too if you created your final load module via SMP/E. Failing 
that, have you tried an APPLY REDO GROUP for your usermod?

Hardee, Chuck wrote:

I have a vendor product that provides for a customization of the product 
via a load module.
The load module is a table of exits that are called at certain points 
in the product to allow the user to make decision, perform additional 
functions, etc.

At our site, this module had been set up to take advantage of 5 different 
exit points.
I have created the 5 different exit modules and successfully set them up 
in SMP/E as usermods.
I have also created the vendor's required table module defining the 5 
different modules as a usermod and have successfully created the final 
load module.

All looks as it should, however, if I change the source of one of the 
exit modules and perform an APPLY REDO, the exit is assembled and saved, 
but the table module is not linked.

The table module's linked command includes an INCLUDE for each of the 
required exit modules, which I thought was how SMP/E knew to monitor those 
modules for change and perform the relink should any one of them change.

I am a bit rusty on creating SMP/E from scratch so I believe I am missing 
something.

Any ideas of what I may have missed in the usermod(s)?

Thanks,
Chuck

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
300 Industry Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
Direct: 724-517-2633
FAX: 412-490-9230
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com



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Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Skip Robinson
Clarification on REWORK. Besides documenting the APPLY date (which SMPE 
shows anyway), it obviates the need to first RESTORE/REJECT the usermod 
before re-RECEIVE/APPLY, a hassle I don't see the point of for a usermod 
whose sysmod structure never changes. For re-RECEIVE to work, REWORK must 
be 'higher' than the previous value. Current date in DDD format is 
obviously higher each day. The final digit is for multiple retries in a 
single day. ROT: if you've tried 10 times and still haven't got it right, 
it's time to knock off for the day and try again tomorrow. ;-) 

.
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Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
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From:   Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   05/15/2014 11:07 AM
Subject:Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a 
load module with maintenance
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



Thanks Skip, I'll look it over and compare it to mine.
Mine's working now but your process may be easier than what I've set up.

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
300 Industry Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
Direct: 724-517-2633
FAX: 412-490-9230
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
Behalf Of Skip Robinson
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:53 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load 
module with maintenance

Here's how we handle our usermod for SMF exit IEEACTRT. The usermod also 
marks the corresponding SAMPLIB member so as to cause a regression message 

if IBM's version changes. REWORK documents the date of last APPLY. This 
job assembles our source and links everything together. 


//STEP1 EXEC SMPR13 
//SYSIN DD * 
 SET  BDY (GLOBAL) . 
  RECEIVE SYSMODS . 
 SET  BDY (MVST100) . 
  APPLY S(SMFACT2) REDO . 
 UCLIN . 
   REP SAMP(IEEACTRT) RMID(SMFACT2) /* IN CASE SAMPLE CHANGES */ . 
 ENDUCL . 
//SMPPTFIN DD   DATA,DLM=$$ 
++USERMOD (SMFACT2) REWORK(20133432) . 
++VER (Z038)  FMID (HBB7780) . 
++JCLIN . 
//SMFACT2  EXEC LINKS,PARM='XREF,LIST,LET,NCAL,RENT' 
//SYSLMOD  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.LINKLIB 
//AOSB3DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.AOSB3 
//SYSLIN   DD * 
  ORDER SCEACTMS 
  INCLUDE AOSB3(SCEACTMS) 
  INCLUDE AOSB3(IEFTB724) /* CONTAINS IEFYS */ 
  ENTRY SCEACTMS 
  MODE AMODE(31) RMODE(ANY) 
  NAME SCEACTMS(R) 
++SRC(SCEACTMS) DISTLIB(ASAMPLIB) . 
Our modification of SAMPLIB source
$$

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
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From:   Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   05/15/2014 10:08 AM
Subject:Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a 
load module with maintenance
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



Thanks!
I added GROUP to one of the APPLY REDOs for one of the exit usermods and 
now the user mod gets assembled and the table module gets relinked.
Exactly what I wanted.

Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
300 Industry Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
Direct: 724-517-2633
FAX: 412-490-9230
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
Behalf Of CM Poncelet
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load 
module with maintenance

If your APPLY REDO was for the usermod only, I would suggest that you do 
another APPLY REDO for the table module and/or for the final load 
module too if you created your final load module via SMP/E. Failing 
that, have you tried an APPLY REDO GROUP for your usermod?

Hardee, Chuck wrote:

I have a vendor product that provides for a customization of the product 
via a load module.
The load module is a table of exits that are called at certain points 
in the product to allow the user to make decision, perform additional 
functions, etc.

At our site, this module had been set up to take advantage of 5 different 

exit points.
I have created the 5 different exit modules and successfully set them up 
in SMP/E as usermods.
I have also created the vendor's required table module defining the 5 
different modules as a usermod and have successfully created the final 
load module.

All looks as it should, however, if I change the source of one of the 
exit modules and perform an APPLY REDO, the exit is assembled and saved, 
but the table module is not linked.

The table module's linked command includes an INCLUDE 

Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 5/15/2014 9:41 AM, MichealButz wrote:

After which my TSO terminal emulater gives me error invald buffer address
2260 as I have a 24 x 80 screen wih 1.920 postions the sba code is E3 D4
Listed below ithe code used to translate the the row and column


Have you actually dumped the buffer when you got the error? Perhaps 
storage got clobbered? Your code should work, but is horribly 
inefficient.  Try:


SET_BUFFL R0,ROW

  L R1,COL
  BCTR  R0,0
  BCTR  R1,0
  MHR0,=H'80'
  ARR0,R1
  SRDL  R0,6
  SRL   R1,2
  SRDL  R0,6

   SRL   R1,2

  STCM  R1,B'1100',SBACMD (or STH)
  TRSBACMD(2),TABLE
  BRXLNK


Also I would replace the =H'80' by a variable, allowing you to use the 
code for different geometries (e.g., 27*132)


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, Vermont

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Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread Micheal Butz
Yes I have as I was running under TESTAUTH 

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 15, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerha...@charter.net wrote:
 
 On 5/15/2014 9:41 AM, MichealButz wrote:
 After which my TSO terminal emulater gives me error invald buffer address
 2260 as I have a 24 x 80 screen wih 1.920 postions the sba code is E3 D4
 Listed below ithe code used to translate the the row and column
 
 Have you actually dumped the buffer when you got the error? Perhaps storage 
 got clobbered? Your code should work, but is horribly inefficient.  Try:
 
 SET_BUFFL R0,ROW
  L R1,COL
  BCTR  R0,0
  BCTR  R1,0
  MHR0,=H'80'
  ARR0,R1
  SRDL  R0,6
  SRL   R1,2
  SRDL  R0,6
SRL   R1,2
  STCM  R1,B'1100',SBACMD (or STH)
  TRSBACMD(2),TABLE
  BRXLNK
 
 Also I would replace the =H'80' by a variable, allowing you to use the code 
 for different geometries (e.g., 27*132)
 
 Gerhard Postpischil
 Bradford, Vermont
 
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Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 5/15/2014 2:33 PM, Micheal Butz wrote:

Yes I have as I was running under TESTAUTH


E3D4 gives me row 29 column 21, not what you wanted.
Row 5 column 1 is C540

So either your conversion doesn't work, or your buffer is getting 
clobbered.



Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, Vermont

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Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread Micheal Butz
Can anyone give me an idea of how to make sense of the table

E.G pos 1 or O is X'40'

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 15, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerha...@charter.net wrote:
 
 On 5/15/2014 2:33 PM, Micheal Butz wrote:
 Yes I have as I was running under TESTAUTH
 
 E3D4 gives me row 29 column 21, not what you wanted.
 Row 5 column 1 is C540
 
 So either your conversion doesn't work, or your buffer is getting clobbered.
 
 
 Gerhard Postpischil
 Bradford, Vermont
 
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Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread Alan Field
Perhaps this will help:

/*rexx*/ 
/* Generate 3270 codes for cursor positioning   */ 
arg row column scrwidth 
if scrwidth = '' then scrwidth = 80 
codes  = 40 C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6 C7 C8 C9 4A 4B 4C 4D 4E 4F, 
 50 D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6 D7 D8 D9 5A 5B 5C 5D 5E 5F, 
 60 61 E2 E3 E4 E5 E6 E7 E8 E9 6A 6B 6C 6D 6E 6F, 
 F0 F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 7A 7B 7C 7D 7E 7F 
sba = (row*scrwidth)+(column)-(scrwidth+1) 
sba = d2x(sba,4) 
sba = x2b(sba) 
sba1 = x2d(b2x(substr(sba,5,6)))+1 
sba2 = x2d(b2x(substr(sba,11,6)))+1 
sba1 = word(codes,sba1) 
sba2 = word(codes,sba2) 
say DCX'11,sba1,sba2' 

Alan Field
Technical Engineer Principal
BCBS Minnesota

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From:   Micheal Butz michealb...@comcast.net
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Date:   05/15/2014 13:59
Subject:Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question
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Can anyone give me an idea of how to make sense of the table

E.G pos 1 or O is X'40'

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 15, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerha...@charter.net 
wrote:
 
 On 5/15/2014 2:33 PM, Micheal Butz wrote:
 Yes I have as I was running under TESTAUTH
 
 E3D4 gives me row 29 column 21, not what you wanted.
 Row 5 column 1 is C540
 
 So either your conversion doesn't work, or your buffer is getting 
clobbered.
 
 
 Gerhard Postpischil
 Bradford, Vermont
 
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Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 15 May 2014 11:30:19 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote:

Clarification on REWORK. Besides documenting the APPLY date (which SMPE
shows anyway), it obviates the need to first RESTORE/REJECT the usermod
before re-RECEIVE/APPLY, a hassle I don't see the point of for a usermod
whose sysmod structure never changes. For re-RECEIVE to work, REWORK must
be 'higher' than the previous value. Current date in DDD format is
obviously higher each day. The final digit is for multiple retries in a
single day. ROT: if you've tried 10 times and still haven't got it right,
it's time to knock off for the day and try again tomorrow. ;-)
  
will changing the REWORK and re-RECEIVEing cause the SYSMOD to be
selected on APPLY, absent REDO?  Even if all the objects appear current
in the target zone?  Based on what entries in the target CSI?

Also (topic drift) The SMP/E manuals say that if the SYSMOD is absent
from the SMPPTS, RECEIVE will re-RECEIVE it even if the REWORK is
unchanged.  But be careful: In our development we may make radical
changes in the structure of a PTF (we never send two such versions
to field).  I have observed that merely deleting from the SMPPTS and
re-RECEIVEing leaves tramp entries in the GLOBAL zone.  I don't know
whether changing REWORK causes such entries to be cleaned up.  I
rely on REJECT.

-- gil

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Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 15 May 2014 14:03:00 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Also (topic drift) The SMP/E manuals say that if the SYSMOD is absent
from the SMPPTS, RECEIVE will re-RECEIVE it even if the REWORK is
unchanged.

I would not assume that I could leave SMP/E in a correct state by 
deleting a PTF from SMPPTS. I always use REJECT for that purpose.

But be careful: In our development we may make radical
changes in the structure of a PTF (we never send two such versions
to field).

IMO, in this case, the correct approach is to
1. RESTORE the PTF from all target zones to which it has been applied.
2. REJECT the PTF
3. RECEIVE the updated PTF
4. Apply the updated PTF (REDO is not needed)

I have observed that merely deleting from the SMPPTS and
re-RECEIVEing leaves tramp entries in the GLOBAL zone. 

I'm not surprised. Do it correctly. I wouldn't be surprised if Kurt Q. 
knows how to clean it up correctly without using REJECT, but I 
would be surprised if he bothers. I know that I don't know how to 
do it correctly.

I don't know
whether changing REWORK causes such entries to be cleaned up.  I
rely on REJECT.

And you should, IMO. If the REWORK is anything more complicated 
than a code change (e.g. different elements, or a different number 
of elements), the PTF should be RESTORED before it is REJECTED.

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Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Jon Perryman
There is an error in your usermod. Using group temporarily corrected your 
problem but you still have a problem. If you change this exit again, you may 
not get the expected results from APPLY GROUP REDO. Without specifics, we can 
only guess at the error. For example, if this module was auto linked with the 
load module instead of SMP/E replacing the module within the load module.In 
this case, the first APPLY would have assembled the module. The second apply 
with GROUP would have linked it. If this is the problem, then SMP/e won't 
specify REPLACE for the binder.

Skip's recommendation is good example. Just be aware that you need to ensure 
the JCLIN matches existing definitions. Your description of the modules and 
load module structure is not clear so you may have additional modules that are 
affected.

Check with the vendor for a sample on how they recommend installing this as a 
usermod.

Jon Perryman


On Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:08 AM, Hardee, Chuck 
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com wrote:
 
I added GROUP to one of the APPLY REDOs for one of the exit usermods and now 
the user mod gets assembled and the table module gets relinked.
Exactly what I wanted.


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Re: 2014 VM Workshop attendee registration is open for all attendee types: regular, student, sponsor, and spouse!

2014-05-15 Thread Mike Walter
Ken:  Yes, you were registered and paid - you reserved a free polo shirt, and 
free banquet dinner, no dorm room reserved.  Unless you want to turn down the 
free $65 Aggie debit card for food purchases in the cafeteria, you might want 
to log back on and add that to your shopping cart, and submit it, too.

Tim: Yes, you were registered and paid - you reserved a free polo shirt, and 
free banquet dinner, a free $65 Aggie debit card for food purchases in the 
cafeteria, and 3 nights in private dorm room.

Tuco:  Yes, you were registered and paid - you reserved a free polo shirt, and 
free banquet dinner, a free $65 Aggie debit card for food purchases in the 
cafeteria, and 3 nights in 2-person dorm room.

Each of you:   Whoever registers an attendee should have received a Paypal 
receipt by e-mail.  If not, please let me know by private e-mail.

If anyone else has questions about their registration, or general workshop 
questions, you can (reducing listserve traffic) reach us from the Contact Us 
link on the web site, or e-mail: webmas...@vmworkshop.org

Best regards,
Mike Walter
2013/2014 VM Workshop chairman

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same-same (== looking for confirmation ) from tuco bonno (aka sonny) and Tim 
Connor ; we're both from/with the South Carolina Budget and Control Board in 
Columba, SC thanks


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types: regular, student, sponsor, and spouse!

Hello Mike,

I registered several weeks ago. Can you confirm that you have my registration?
Ken Barkhau with Hewlett Packard.

Thanks much.
Ken


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Mike Walter 
mike.wal...@aon.commailto:mike.wal...@aon.com wrote:

 Cross-posted to the IBMVM, Linux-390, and IBM-MAIN discussion lists.



 The 2014 VM Workshop, June 26-28 2014 will be conducted at North
 Carolina AT State University, Greensboro NC


 A Guaranteed Registration deadline is hard-coded as 11:59 PM Friday
 May 30, 2014 due to NC AT requirements for dorm room setup and,
 manufacturer Polo Shirt and T-Shirt production deadlines.  All paid
 registrations before that deadline are guaranteed to receive:
 - one no-charge embroidered 2014 VM Polo Shirt (for regular attendees,
 plus any added purchases),
 - one no-charge 2014 VM Workshop T-shirt (for students, plus any added
 purchases),
 - a reserved dorm room (for those who paid for dorm 'nights' - single
 rooms are sold out: you'll be paired up with a roommate of the same
 gender),
 - an Aggie debit card pre-loaded with $65 for convenient FOOD
 purchases in the campus cafeteria,
 - all that above will be available at the VM Workshop registration
 table beginning Thursday morning.
 Registrations will still be accepted after 11:59 PM Friday May 30, but
 after that time no dorm reservations can be accepted, and shirts and
 Aggie debit cards will be available on a best-effort basis after
 Guaranteed Registrations have been processed.





 WHO:

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 WHAT:

 Location, travel, lodging from dorm rooms ($50/night/bed) up to nearby
 hotels, travel hints, sponsor information, and registration details for the
 2013 VM Workshop have all been posted to:   http://www.vmworkshop.org/2014

 Session agenda information will be available on the web site in early
 June, following the close of Session Submissions at 11:59 PM on May 30.



 WHERE:

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 WHEN:

 SESSION DATES: From Thursday morning JUNE 26 until about 3PM (or so)
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 Choose from multiple concurrent presentations packed full of
 up-to-the-minute technical sessions for all expertise levels of z/VM,
 and Linux on System z, and from Hands-On Labs including:

 - z/VM 6.3.0 Installation or Migration (your choice),

 -'Linux on System z' Installation (SLES or Redhat, your choice),

 - z/VM BFS and SFS Administration (Byte File System and Shared File
 System), and

 - more hands-on labs as they are submitted.

 Wednesday June 25 is reserved for VM Workshop Volunteer Committee site
 preparation and lab setup, if you are interested in joining just send
 me an e-mail asking to join.



 WHY:

 Previous VM Workshops have been referred to by the small-minded as: 'a
 large number of system programmers with some limited adult
 supervision' (do you really want to miss this!??).  Expect another
 wonderful up close and personal workshop with great content and
 terrific camaraderie.  Come to meet VM old-timers... and 

Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Skip Robinson
REWORK has no effect on APPLY, only on RECEIVE. Absent a higher REWORK 
value, re-RECEIVE will fail with a very descriptive message to the effect 
that the REWORK value is not higher than the old one.

Re-APPLY will fail without REDO if the sysmod already exists in the target 
zone regardless of whether the latest version of the sysmod differs from 
one previously RECEIVEd. No comparison is done. You have to be careful 
that the new sysmod has the same structure (same combination of elements 
in the same relationship) in order to do what we do. It's our usermod; we 
haven't changed it for years. Occasionally a sysmod will come from IBM 
that explicitly instructs the user to first RESTORE/REJECT a previous 
version of it. Do it. 

If a sysmod is *not* present in the global and/or target zones, it will 
RECEIVE and/or APPLY without REWORK or REDO. If you're uncomfortable with 
REWORK/REDO, then by all means do RESTORE/REJECT first. The key is to get 
the JCLIN right because that's how SMPE knows how to 'fully install' your 
sysmod. 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com



From:   Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   05/15/2014 01:06 PM
Subject:Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a 
load module with maintenance
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



There is an error in your usermod. Using group temporarily corrected your 
problem but you still have a problem. If you change this exit again, you 
may not get the expected results from APPLY GROUP REDO. Without specifics, 
we can only guess at the error. For example, if this module was auto 
linked with the load module instead of SMP/E replacing the module within 
the load module.In this case, the first APPLY would have assembled the 
module. The second apply with GROUP would have linked it. If this is the 
problem, then SMP/e won't specify REPLACE for the binder.

Skip's recommendation is good example. Just be aware that you need to 
ensure the JCLIN matches existing definitions. Your description of the 
modules and load module structure is not clear so you may have additional 
modules that are affected.

Check with the vendor for a sample on how they recommend installing this 
as a usermod.

Jon Perryman


On Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:08 AM, Hardee, Chuck 
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com wrote:
 
I added GROUP to one of the APPLY REDOs for one of the exit usermods and 
now the user mod gets assembled and the table module gets relinked.
Exactly what I wanted.


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Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a load module with maintenance

2014-05-15 Thread Skip Robinson
Corrected. RECEIVEd -- APPLied .

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
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From:   Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   05/15/2014 01:58 PM
Subject:Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a 
load module with maintenance
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



REWORK has no effect on APPLY, only on RECEIVE. Absent a higher REWORK 
value, re-RECEIVE will fail with a very descriptive message to the effect 
that the REWORK value is not higher than the old one.

Re-APPLY will fail without REDO if the sysmod already exists in the target 

zone regardless of whether the latest version of the sysmod differs from 
one previously *APPLied*. No comparison is done. You have to be careful
that the new sysmod has the same structure (same combination of elements 
in the same relationship) in order to do what we do. It's our usermod; we 
haven't changed it for years. Occasionally a sysmod will come from IBM 
that explicitly instructs the user to first RESTORE/REJECT a previous 
version of it. Do it. 

If a sysmod is *not* present in the global and/or target zones, it will 
RECEIVE and/or APPLY without REWORK or REDO. If you're uncomfortable with 
REWORK/REDO, then by all means do RESTORE/REJECT first. The key is to get 
the JCLIN right because that's how SMPE knows how to 'fully install' your 
sysmod. 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com



From:   Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   05/15/2014 01:06 PM
Subject:Re: SMP/E Question regarding automatically relinking a 
load module with maintenance
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



There is an error in your usermod. Using group temporarily corrected your 
problem but you still have a problem. If you change this exit again, you 
may not get the expected results from APPLY GROUP REDO. Without specifics, 

we can only guess at the error. For example, if this module was auto 
linked with the load module instead of SMP/E replacing the module within 
the load module.In this case, the first APPLY would have assembled the 
module. The second apply with GROUP would have linked it. If this is the 
problem, then SMP/e won't specify REPLACE for the binder.

Skip's recommendation is good example. Just be aware that you need to 
ensure the JCLIN matches existing definitions. Your description of the 
modules and load module structure is not clear so you may have additional 
modules that are affected.

Check with the vendor for a sample on how they recommend installing this 
as a usermod.

Jon Perryman


On Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:08 AM, Hardee, Chuck 
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com wrote:
 
I added GROUP to one of the APPLY REDOs for one of the exit usermods and 
now the user mod gets assembled and the table module gets relinked.
Exactly what I wanted.


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Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 5/15/2014 2:58 PM, Micheal Butz wrote:

Can anyone give me an idea of how to make sense of the table
E.G pos 1 or O is X'40'


Conventionally we use column and row numbers beginning at 1, but 3270 
addresses are relative to zero. So 0,0 is 4040.


As you should see from your code, the binary address (up to twelve bits) 
is split into two six bit values, and each of those is translated by the 
table into printable EBCDIC characters.


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, Vermont

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Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape - FIXED

2014-05-15 Thread Karl Severson
The system is finally up and running. The customer opened a ticket with IBM 
after getting one of those ACTZ messages and I guess it really just comes down 
to who happens to be available on any particular day because the customer was 
instructed to log into the DS6800 system with a special CE code and after some 
commands were entered the system was able to IPL from the OS volume. I don't 
have the exact keystrokes used but I will make sure that we have a copy saved 
somewhere for future use if necessary. It's quite likely that this may have 
been the problem that plagued us back in 2012. I do not know if this was an 
oversite during the initial configuration process or not but given the problems 
we've had - they seem so un IBM like - I wouldn't be surprised if it was. 
Thanks again for all of the help and suggestions!
Karl Severson
Raytheon Company

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Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape - FIXED

2014-05-15 Thread Skip Robinson
Well, you're welcome for the SWAGs, but I don't think anyone here came 
close. Except maybe Bob Shannon, who suggested that your DASD subsystem 
was broken. Easy fix, at least. 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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From:   Karl Severson karl_j_sever...@raytheon.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   05/15/2014 02:42 PM
Subject:Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape - FIXED
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



The system is finally up and running. The customer opened a ticket with 
IBM after getting one of those ACTZ messages and I guess it really just 
comes down to who happens to be available on any particular day because 
the customer was instructed to log into the DS6800 system with a special 
CE code and after some commands were entered the system was able to IPL 
from the OS volume. I don't have the exact keystrokes used but I will make 
sure that we have a copy saved somewhere for future use if necessary. It's 
quite likely that this may have been the problem that plagued us back in 
2012. I do not know if this was an oversite during the initial 
configuration process or not but given the problems we've had - they seem 
so un IBM like - I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Thanks again for all 
of the help and suggestions!
Karl Severson
Raytheon Company

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Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread Micheal Butz
Yes but why these printable ebcdic codes

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 15, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Alan Field alan_c_fi...@bluecrossmn.com wrote:
 
 Perhaps this will help:
 
 /*rexx*/ 
 /* Generate 3270 codes for cursor positioning   */ 
 arg row column scrwidth 
 if scrwidth = '' then scrwidth = 80 
 codes  = 40 C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6 C7 C8 C9 4A 4B 4C 4D 4E 4F, 
 50 D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6 D7 D8 D9 5A 5B 5C 5D 5E 5F, 
 60 61 E2 E3 E4 E5 E6 E7 E8 E9 6A 6B 6C 6D 6E 6F, 
 F0 F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 7A 7B 7C 7D 7E 7F 
 sba = (row*scrwidth)+(column)-(scrwidth+1) 
 sba = d2x(sba,4) 
 sba = x2b(sba) 
 sba1 = x2d(b2x(substr(sba,5,6)))+1 
 sba2 = x2d(b2x(substr(sba,11,6)))+1 
 sba1 = word(codes,sba1) 
 sba2 = word(codes,sba2) 
 say DCX'11,sba1,sba2' 
 
 Alan Field
 Technical Engineer Principal
 BCBS Minnesota
 
 Phone: 651.662.3546  Mobile:  651.428.8826
 
 
 
 
 
 From:   Micheal Butz michealb...@comcast.net
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
 Date:   05/15/2014 13:59
 Subject:Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 
 
 Can anyone give me an idea of how to make sense of the table
 
 E.G pos 1 or O is X'40'
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerha...@charter.net
 wrote:
 
 On 5/15/2014 2:33 PM, Micheal Butz wrote:
 Yes I have as I was running under TESTAUTH
 
 E3D4 gives me row 29 column 21, not what you wanted.
 Row 5 column 1 is C540
 
 So either your conversion doesn't work, or your buffer is getting
 clobbered.
 
 
 Gerhard Postpischil
 Bradford, Vermont
 
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Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Those are the EBCDIC equivalents of the BCD 64-character printable characters 
standard on IBM hardware of the time before EBCDIC.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Micheal Butz
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:53 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

Yes but why these printable ebcdic codes

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 15, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Alan Field alan_c_fi...@bluecrossmn.com wrote:
 
 Perhaps this will help:
 
 /*rexx*/ 
 /* Generate 3270 codes for cursor positioning   */ 
 arg row column scrwidth 
 if scrwidth = '' then scrwidth = 80 
 codes  = 40 C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6 C7 C8 C9 4A 4B 4C 4D 4E 4F, 
 50 D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6 D7 D8 D9 5A 5B 5C 5D 5E 5F, 
 60 61 E2 E3 E4 E5 E6 E7 E8 E9 6A 6B 6C 6D 6E 6F, 
 F0 F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 7A 7B 7C 7D 7E 7F 
 sba = (row*scrwidth)+(column)-(scrwidth+1) 
 sba = d2x(sba,4) 
 sba = x2b(sba) 
 sba1 = x2d(b2x(substr(sba,5,6)))+1 
 sba2 = x2d(b2x(substr(sba,11,6)))+1 
 sba1 = word(codes,sba1) 
 sba2 = word(codes,sba2) 
 say DCX'11,sba1,sba2' 
 
 Alan Field
 Technical Engineer Principal
 BCBS Minnesota
 
 Phone: 651.662.3546  Mobile:  651.428.8826
 
 
 
 
 
 From:   Micheal Butz michealb...@comcast.net
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
 Date:   05/15/2014 13:59
 Subject:Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 
 
 Can anyone give me an idea of how to make sense of the table
 
 E.G pos 1 or O is X'40'
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerha...@charter.net
 wrote:
 
 On 5/15/2014 2:33 PM, Micheal Butz wrote:
 Yes I have as I was running under TESTAUTH
 
 E3D4 gives me row 29 column 21, not what you wanted.
 Row 5 column 1 is C540
 
 So either your conversion doesn't work, or your buffer is getting
 clobbered.
 
 
 Gerhard Postpischil
 Bradford, Vermont
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Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape - FIXED

2014-05-15 Thread Ed Finnell
Almost sounds like it was in CE mode!
 
 
In a message dated 5/15/2014 4:47:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com writes:

Except  maybe Bob Shannon, who suggested that your DASD subsystem 
was broken. Easy  fix, at least. 

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Re: TSO 3270 Data Stream question

2014-05-15 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 5/15/2014 5:52 PM, Micheal Butz wrote:

Yes but why these printable ebcdic codes


Six bits for a portion of the address leave two bits available. When the 
3270 family was introduced, all printable characters had the x'40' bit 
on. The x'80' bit is set on or off to produce a printable character (see 
the 360 or 370 reference card for the then extant characters). Modern, 
extended data stream devices assign special meaning to the x'40' bit, 
but they also don't support ASCII any more.


For example, a bit value of 0A would first get x'40' ORed in, producing 
x'4A', which is printable. But a value of 16, turned into 56 is not, so 
x'80' is ORed to produce D6.


If your question is why use EBCDIC code, that may be due to early 
modems, that recognized a few  line control characters, and expected 
printable characters for the data. Also the remote 3270 came in both an 
EBCDIC and ASCII variety, and ASCII support required printable 
characters for conversion (IBM 3272/3277 shows remote controls; even 
those were translated to ASCII printables).





Gerhard Postpischil
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Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape - FIXED

2014-05-15 Thread Ed Gould

Karl:

From what little I have been following this discussion. I think you  
should get a better handle on what is you *VALID* IOCP (put it on a  
tape or other media that can always be reachable). Also have the  
standalone utilities in standalone form on a media that is always  
available.


Ed

On May 15, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Karl Severson wrote:

The system is finally up and running. The customer opened a ticket  
with IBM after getting one of those ACTZ messages and I guess it  
really just comes down to who happens to be available on any  
particular day because the customer was instructed to log into the  
DS6800 system with a special CE code and after some commands were  
entered the system was able to IPL from the OS volume. I don't have  
the exact keystrokes used but I will make sure that we have a copy  
saved somewhere for future use if necessary. It's quite likely that  
this may have been the problem that plagued us back in 2012. I do  
not know if this was an oversite during the initial configuration  
process or not but given the problems we've had - they seem so un  
IBM like - I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Thanks again for all  
of the help and suggestions!

Karl Severson
Raytheon Company

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