Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Jackson, Rob
No one needs clap, Allan.  No one.

Happy Friday, all.


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1) as one other poster inidicated, add clap to IEASYS00
2) Check your load parms on the hmc. In the SYSPARMS parameter yyzz   yy 
has significance as does zz. They may/may not request a prompt depending on the 
value.

MVS SYSTEM COMMANDS (?) has the breakdown. I believe much of the same info is 
duplicated in Init and Tuning.

HTH,

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Subject: 0,clpa

Every time one specific z/os system IPLs, I have to enter:
0,clpa
on the console to get it to continue. I have other machines that do not prompt. 
What can I set to avoid having to enter this response during ipl?
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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
(Once again my proof reader dozed.) 

Friday reverie. I remember when and why we inserted CLPA into IEASYSxx. Mid 
1980s. Up to that time disk was considered to be 'slow enough' as to relegate 
CLPA to specific situations where 'we' (mighty all-knowing sysprogs) knew that 
LPA had changed in some way since the previous IPL. One day we had a system 
crash with no operators around. We had to roll up our sleeves and save the day. 
The chalk board on the wall told us which sysres volume to IPL from. Since it 
was a simple down-and-up situation, no CLPA was needed.

We began getting the weirdest abend reports. We experienced them ourselves. 
After much consternation, we determined that we had IPLed from the wrong 
sysres. Chalk board was wrong. Without CLPA, we were mixing down-level link 
list with newer LPA list. Random mismatches, random kabooms. We reIPLed the 
correct way, all better.

At the next Change Control meeting, we announced that from then on every IPL 
would be CLPA. Skepticism abounded but did NOT prevail. I don't think anyone 
ever actually perceived a difference in IPL time. For sure we never had another 
LINK/LPA mismatch.   

.
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What Skip says Disk hasn't been slow enough to keep the LPA for a long, 
long time...

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:24 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: 0,clpa
> 
> CLPA in IEASYSxx is the answer. Been that way for decades. Long before 
> aich em cee. This is apart from any other operator prompting that 
> might be requested or allowed.
> 
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> 323-715-0595 Mobile
> 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
> robin...@sce.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Allan Staller
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: 0,clpa
> 
> 1) as one other poster inidicated, add clap to IEASYS00
> 2) Check your load parms on the hmc. In the SYSPARMS parameter 
> yyzz yy has significance as does zz. They may/may not request a 
> prompt depending on the value.
> 
> MVS SYSTEM COMMANDS (?) has the breakdown. I believe much of the same 
> info is duplicated in Init and Tuning.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> Sent: 24 August 2018 15:01
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: 0,clpa
> 
> Every time one specific z/os system IPLs, I have to enter:
> 0,clpa
> on the console to get it to continue. I have other machines that do 
> not prompt. What can I set to avoid having to enter this response during ipl?
> --
> Tony Thigpen


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Re: Encryption keys and EM waves

2018-08-24 Thread Phil Smith III
As JC Ewing notes, this requires pretty well complete control, including being 
able to force an operation and knowing when that happens. Just having the phone 
isn't going to do you any good. Remember that these wee devices are doing a lot 
all the time-I'd be unsurprised to learn that you also need to not have any 
other apps running. For example, my HTC 10 has 8 cores, several of which are 
doing *something* at any given instant. So this is like sniffing a single 
whispered syllable in a crowded room: you likely need to be near the person and 
get everyone else to shut up, and know when the speaker is going to utter it.

 

Like most such attacks, it's far too theoretical to worry about IMHO.

 

.phsiii

 

 


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Re: SHARE handouts

2018-08-24 Thread John Eells
Perhaps incorrectly, I thought everything uploaded by any presenter was 
available for the most recent conference, but prior ones were available 
to SHARE members only.


That said, if anyone wants any of mine, just send me a note.

R.S. wrote:

Is there any repository for SHARE conference materials?
Sometimes it's possible to download the PDF file and sometimes not.
I guess SHARE is not interested in sharing that outside the organisation 
(at least not just in time of conference), however many presentations 
are available.

What are the rules? What are the links for download? Are there any rules?

BTW: From copyright point of view, as far as I understand the 
presentation is owned by the author and usually author is willing to 
*share* it...





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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Friday reverie. I remember when and why we inserted CLPA into IEASYSxx. Mid 
1980s. Up to that time disk was considered to be 'slow enough' as to relegate 
CLPA to specific situations where 'we' (mighty all-knowing sysprogs) knew that 
LPA had changed in some way since the previous IPL. One day we had a system 
crash with no operators around. We had to roll up our sleeves and save the day. 
The chalk board on the wall told us which sysres volume to IPL from. Since it 
was a simple down-and-up situation, no CLPA was needed.

We began getting the weirdest abend reports. We experienced them ourselves. 
After much consternation, we determined that we had IPLed from the wrong 
sysres. Chalk board was wrong. Without CLPA, we were mixing down-level link 
list with newer LPA list. Random mismatches, random kabooms. We reIPLed the 
correct way, all better.

At the next Change Control meeting, we announced that from then on every IPL 
would be CLPA. Skepticism abounded but did prevail. I don't think anyone ever 
actually perceived a difference in IPL time. For sure we never had another 
LINK/LPA mismatch.   

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com


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Of Gibney, Dave
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:31 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: 0,clpa

What Skip says Disk hasn't been slow enough to keep the LPA for a long, 
long time...

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:24 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: 0,clpa
> 
> CLPA in IEASYSxx is the answer. Been that way for decades. Long before 
> aich em cee. This is apart from any other operator prompting that 
> might be requested or allowed.
> 
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> 323-715-0595 Mobile
> 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
> robin...@sce.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Allan Staller
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: 0,clpa
> 
> 1) as one other poster inidicated, add clap to IEASYS00
> 2) Check your load parms on the hmc. In the SYSPARMS parameter 
> yyzz yy has significance as does zz. They may/may not request a 
> prompt depending on the value.
> 
> MVS SYSTEM COMMANDS (?) has the breakdown. I believe much of the same 
> info is duplicated in Init and Tuning.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> Sent: 24 August 2018 15:01
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: 0,clpa
> 
> Every time one specific z/os system IPLs, I have to enter:
> 0,clpa
> on the console to get it to continue. I have other machines that do 
> not prompt. What can I set to avoid having to enter this response during ipl?
> --
> Tony Thigpen


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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Gibney, Dave
What Skip says Disk hasn't been slow enough to keep the LPA for a long, 
long time...

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:24 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: 0,clpa
> 
> CLPA in IEASYSxx is the answer. Been that way for decades. Long before aich
> em cee. This is apart from any other operator prompting that might be
> requested or allowed.
> 
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> 323-715-0595 Mobile
> 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
> robin...@sce.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Allan Staller
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: 0,clpa
> 
> 1) as one other poster inidicated, add clap to IEASYS00
> 2) Check your load parms on the hmc. In the SYSPARMS parameter yyzz
> yy has significance as does zz. They may/may not request a prompt
> depending on the value.
> 
> MVS SYSTEM COMMANDS (?) has the breakdown. I believe much of the same
> info is duplicated in Init and Tuning.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> Sent: 24 August 2018 15:01
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: 0,clpa
> 
> Every time one specific z/os system IPLs, I have to enter:
> 0,clpa
> on the console to get it to continue. I have other machines that do not
> prompt. What can I set to avoid having to enter this response during ipl?
> --
> Tony Thigpen
> 
> 
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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Keith Smith
It is int the IEASYSxx member

CLPA Causes NIP to load the link pack area with the modules contained in
the LPALST concatenation. Also, CLPA purges VIO data set pages that were
used in the previously initialized system. Thus, CLPA implies CVIO.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 5:22 PM Nims,Alva John (Al)  wrote:

> Hmm, it should not prompt then, because "M" is what we use also and we do
> not get prompts.
>
> Have you checked your SYSLOG during the IPL to see if it is complaining
> about an error in your IEASYSxx or other referenced members from
> SYS1.PARMLIB?
> Look for message ID: IEA371I
> That, I believe is a good place to start.
> Messages: IEA247I & IEE252I indicate which IEASYSxx member is being used
> and which data set it was found in.
>
> Al Nims
> Systems Admin/Programmer III
> UF Information Technology
> East Campus
> P.O. Box 112050
> Gainesville, FL. 32611
> (e) ajn...@ufl.edu
> (p) (352) 273-1298
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:59 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: 0,clpa
>
> the value is "M".
>
> Tony Thigpen
>
> Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote on 08/24/2018 04:53 PM:
> > Have you checked your HMC's Load parameter value?
> >
> >>From the "z/OS V2R2 MVS System Commands" Page 4 & 5 for the
> >>"Explanation of the A=INITIALIZE SYSTEM CONTROL PROGRAM,
> > A2 Field"
> >
> > 1. The first four characters (characters 1 through 4 of the LOAD
> parameter) specify the hexadecimal device number for the device that
> contains the I/O definition file (IODF) VSAM data set.
> >
> > 2. The next two characters (characters 5 and 6 of the LOAD parameter)
> specify the suffix of the LOADxx parmlib member that the system is to use.
> >
> > 3. The next character (character 7 of the LOAD parameter) specifies the
> prompting and message suppression characteristics that the system is to use
> at IPL.
> >
> > #3 above is what I am referring to and you do need a copy of the manual
> to understand that character.  There are 8 different characters used and
> each one sets 3 different options uniquely:
> >   Display  Info   Prompt for Master   Prompt for System
> > Character MessagesCatalog Parameters
> >   --
> ---
> > Period or
> >No  No  No
> > A Yes Yes Yes
> > C No  Yes No
> > D Yes Yes No
> > M Yes No  No
> > P No  Yes Yes
> > S No  No  Yes
> > T Yes No  Yes
> >
> > Al Nims
> > Systems Admin/Programmer III
> > UF Information Technology
> > East Campus
> > P.O. Box 112050
> > Gainesville, FL. 32611
> > (e) ajn...@ufl.edu
> > (p) (352) 273-1298
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:01 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: 0,clpa
> >
> > Every time one specific z/os system IPLs, I have to enter:
> > 0,clpa
> > on the console to get it to continue. I have other machines that do not
> prompt. What can I set to avoid having to enter this response during ipl?
> > --
> > Tony Thigpen
> >
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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
CLPA in IEASYSxx is the answer. Been that way for decades. Long before aich em 
cee. This is apart from any other operator prompting that might be requested or 
allowed. 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Allan Staller
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: 0,clpa

1) as one other poster inidicated, add clap to IEASYS00
2) Check your load parms on the hmc. In the SYSPARMS parameter yyzz   yy 
has significance as does zz. They may/may not request a prompt depending on the 
value.

MVS SYSTEM COMMANDS (?) has the breakdown. I believe much of the same info is 
duplicated in Init and Tuning.

HTH,

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Tony Thigpen
Sent: 24 August 2018 15:01
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: 0,clpa

Every time one specific z/os system IPLs, I have to enter:
0,clpa
on the console to get it to continue. I have other machines that do not prompt. 
What can I set to avoid having to enter this response during ipl?
--
Tony Thigpen


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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Hmm, it should not prompt then, because "M" is what we use also and we do not 
get prompts.

Have you checked your SYSLOG during the IPL to see if it is complaining about 
an error in your IEASYSxx or other referenced members from SYS1.PARMLIB?
Look for message ID: IEA371I
That, I believe is a good place to start.
Messages: IEA247I & IEE252I indicate which IEASYSxx member is being used and 
which data set it was found in.

Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer III
UF Information Technology
East Campus 
P.O. Box 112050
Gainesville, FL. 32611
(e) ajn...@ufl.edu 
(p) (352) 273-1298


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: 0,clpa

the value is "M".

Tony Thigpen

Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote on 08/24/2018 04:53 PM:
> Have you checked your HMC's Load parameter value?
> 
>>From the "z/OS V2R2 MVS System Commands" Page 4 & 5 for the 
>>"Explanation of the A=INITIALIZE SYSTEM CONTROL PROGRAM,
> A2 Field"
> 
> 1. The first four characters (characters 1 through 4 of the LOAD parameter) 
> specify the hexadecimal device number for the device that contains the I/O 
> definition file (IODF) VSAM data set.
> 
> 2. The next two characters (characters 5 and 6 of the LOAD parameter) specify 
> the suffix of the LOADxx parmlib member that the system is to use.
> 
> 3. The next character (character 7 of the LOAD parameter) specifies the 
> prompting and message suppression characteristics that the system is to use 
> at IPL.
> 
> #3 above is what I am referring to and you do need a copy of the manual to 
> understand that character.  There are 8 different characters used and each 
> one sets 3 different options uniquely:
>   Display  Info   Prompt for Master   Prompt for System
> Character MessagesCatalog Parameters
>   --  
> ---
> Period or
>No  No  No
> A Yes Yes Yes
> C No  Yes No
> D Yes Yes No
> M Yes No  No
> P No  Yes Yes
> S No  No  Yes
> T Yes No  Yes
> 
> Al Nims
> Systems Admin/Programmer III
> UF Information Technology
> East Campus
> P.O. Box 112050
> Gainesville, FL. 32611
> (e) ajn...@ufl.edu
> (p) (352) 273-1298
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:01 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: 0,clpa
> 
> Every time one specific z/os system IPLs, I have to enter:
> 0,clpa
> on the console to get it to continue. I have other machines that do not 
> prompt. What can I set to avoid having to enter this response during ipl?
> --
> Tony Thigpen
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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Allan Staller
1) as one other poster inidicated, add clap to IEASYS00
2) Check your load parms on the hmc. In the SYSPARMS parameter yyzz   yy 
has significance as does zz. They may/may not request a prompt depending on the 
value.

MVS SYSTEM COMMANDS (?) has the breakdown. I believe much of the same info is 
duplicated in Init and Tuning.

HTH,

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Tony Thigpen
Sent: 24 August 2018 15:01
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: 0,clpa

Every time one specific z/os system IPLs, I have to enter:
0,clpa
on the console to get it to continue. I have other machines that do not
prompt. What can I set to avoid having to enter this response during ipl?
--
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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Tony Thigpen

the value is "M".

Tony Thigpen

Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote on 08/24/2018 04:53 PM:

Have you checked your HMC's Load parameter value?


From the "z/OS V2R2 MVS System Commands" Page 4 & 5 for the "Explanation of the 
A=INITIALIZE SYSTEM CONTROL PROGRAM,

A2 Field"

1. The first four characters (characters 1 through 4 of the LOAD parameter) 
specify the hexadecimal device number for the device that contains the I/O 
definition file (IODF) VSAM data set.

2. The next two characters (characters 5 and 6 of the LOAD parameter) specify 
the suffix of the LOADxx parmlib member that the system is to use.

3. The next character (character 7 of the LOAD parameter) specifies the 
prompting and message suppression characteristics that the system is to use at 
IPL.

#3 above is what I am referring to and you do need a copy of the manual to 
understand that character.  There are 8 different characters used and each one 
sets 3 different options uniquely:
Display  Info   Prompt for Master   Prompt for System
Character   MessagesCatalog Parameters
--  
---
Period or
   No  No  No
A   Yes Yes Yes
C   No  Yes No
D   Yes Yes No
M   Yes No  No
P   No  Yes Yes
S   No  No  Yes
T   Yes No  Yes

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Every time one specific z/os system IPLs, I have to enter:
0,clpa
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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Have you checked your HMC's Load parameter value?

>From the "z/OS V2R2 MVS System Commands" Page 4 & 5 for the "Explanation of 
>the A=INITIALIZE SYSTEM CONTROL PROGRAM,
A2 Field"

1. The first four characters (characters 1 through 4 of the LOAD parameter) 
specify the hexadecimal device number for the device that contains the I/O 
definition file (IODF) VSAM data set.

2. The next two characters (characters 5 and 6 of the LOAD parameter) specify 
the suffix of the LOADxx parmlib member that the system is to use. 

3. The next character (character 7 of the LOAD parameter) specifies the 
prompting and message suppression characteristics that the system is to use at 
IPL.

#3 above is what I am referring to and you do need a copy of the manual to 
understand that character.  There are 8 different characters used and each one 
sets 3 different options uniquely:
Display  Info   Prompt for Master   Prompt for System
Character   MessagesCatalog Parameters
--  
---
Period or 
 No  No  No
A   Yes Yes Yes
C   No  Yes No
D   Yes Yes No
M   Yes No  No
P   No  Yes Yes
S   No  No  Yes
T   Yes No  Yes

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Re: Encryption keys and EM waves

2018-08-24 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 03:40:35PM -0400, Mark Regan wrote:
> I wonder if tempest shielding <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename)> will now become a
> necessity?

For a so called normal user? No way, I guess. It would have increased
price. Besides, certain types of hardware are probably impossible to
shield, given that their work is based on actually doing those radio
emissions (phones and some more).

Perhaps it could be done with a phone, but the price and mass would
have been big. For example, two batteries, one for antenna, second for
processor, with optical separation in between. Something like this. I
really have no idea if this is the right way to do it, so I am
guessing. Maybe even three batteries. That is no pocket device - a
suitcase phone.

Much easier would be to simply not have anything important on a phone,
however smart.

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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Andrew Arentsen
In my IEASYS00, I have a line:
CLPA,


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Maybe, 

ISREDDE2   SP9149.USER.PARMLIB(IEASYS00) - 01.22 
Command ===> 
23 OPI=NO, DO NOT ALLOW OPERATOR OVERRIDE

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Re: 0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Maybe, 

ISREDDE2   SP9149.USER.PARMLIB(IEASYS00) - 01.22  
Command ===>  
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0,clpa

2018-08-24 Thread Tony Thigpen

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0,clpa
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Re: Anyone here exprerienced in JSON parser (assembler)

2018-08-24 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Oh, that's easy to answer. I do Assembler as I don't speak the other
languages...

ITschak

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 3:33 PM Jerry Callen  wrote:

> So I can't help but wonder: what's the big picture here? WHY is it
> necessary to parse JSON from assembler? There is presumably a good reason
> that assembler is in the driver's seat here, instead of, say, C, C++, or
> Python (all viable languages on z/OS).
>
> Yes, it's certainly possible to write recursive assembler code, and
> possible to do it efficiently with a stack, but WHY? It would be easier in
> Metal C (if the environment dictates that), and VERY easy from LE C/C++ or
> Python. And for the bash scripters out there, there's a nifty little
> command line tool (the "jq" command) that will parse JSON and deliver it in
> a convenient form to a shell script. (Rocket has it ported to z/OS
> internally, but not yet available for download.)
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Re: Encryption keys and EM waves

2018-08-24 Thread Mark Regan
I wonder if tempest shielding <
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename)> will now become a
necessity?


On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 2:23 PM Tomasz Rola  wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:25:53AM -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
> > On 08/22/2018 05:09 PM, Rob Schramm wrote:
> > > While the keys that are processed in the Crypto Express cards should be
> > > safe.. I am less sure about anything else.
> > >
> > >
> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-attack-recovers-rsa-encryption-keys-from-em-waves-within-seconds/
> > >
> > > Rob Schramm
> >
> > It actually sounds like a fairly restrictive attack.   Requires close
> > physical proximity (lack of physical security), but more importantly the
>
> The "bank" they want to rob is a cellphone in one's pocket. No
> physical security for this, I am afraid. The phone could be (a) stolen,
> then miraculuously "found" and (b) returned to the proper
> owner. Between (a) and (b) anything can happen to the said phone,
> including most diabolical cloning schemes imaginable.
>
> Or the phone could happen to be placed close to the listening device
> without the owner realising it, like example given in the article -
> publicly available charger.
>
> > speed of decryption is apparently dependent on knowledge of the specific
> > code used by the OpenSSL Project (since a code mitigation was suggested
> > to OpenSSL) and the knowledge that the emanated EM signals from the
> > device occur "during a single decryption operation".  How on earth does
> > an EM observer know a time interval that a single decryption is
> > occurring on the device unless they already have near total control over
> > the device?
>
> As far as I understand they do not have to know anything like this.
>
> The attack had been demonstrated against one method from well known
> open source library. The only thing that stopped researchers from
> demonstrating it for all of the library was their lack of time, but
> this is not going to stop a thief.
>
> As of "knowing when", I suppose one just has to record
> everything. Then matching consecutive portions of the recording
> against the algorithm, if no break get next portion, loop. At some
> level this is as trivial as finding people talking about security on
> this list - grab the archive, look for matching phrases, no need to
> know when the said talk took place - if it is there, it will be
> found, if not, then searching next mailing list can deliver.
>
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RES: SHARE handouts

2018-08-24 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
After some research at SHARE site I discover that I can register without 
payment and get access to presentations of last Share.

Carlos Bodra
IBM System Certified System z
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Assunto: Re: SHARE handouts

On 8/24/2018 9:14 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> SHARE has no control over submission other than putting in place a mechanism 
> facilitate it. It's up to the presenter to make it happen.

It should also be noted that access to the proceedings is a SHARE member 
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they can make it publicly or privately available any time they like (as I 
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Re: SHARE handouts

2018-08-24 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 8/24/2018 9:14 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

SHARE has no control over submission other than putting in place a mechanism 
facilitate it. It's up to the presenter to make it happen.


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Re: Encryption keys and EM waves

2018-08-24 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:25:53AM -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
> On 08/22/2018 05:09 PM, Rob Schramm wrote:
> > While the keys that are processed in the Crypto Express cards should be
> > safe.. I am less sure about anything else.
> >
> > https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-attack-recovers-rsa-encryption-keys-from-em-waves-within-seconds/
> >
> > Rob Schramm
> 
> It actually sounds like a fairly restrictive attack.   Requires close
> physical proximity (lack of physical security), but more importantly the

The "bank" they want to rob is a cellphone in one's pocket. No
physical security for this, I am afraid. The phone could be (a) stolen,
then miraculuously "found" and (b) returned to the proper
owner. Between (a) and (b) anything can happen to the said phone,
including most diabolical cloning schemes imaginable.

Or the phone could happen to be placed close to the listening device
without the owner realising it, like example given in the article -
publicly available charger.

> speed of decryption is apparently dependent on knowledge of the specific
> code used by the OpenSSL Project (since a code mitigation was suggested
> to OpenSSL) and the knowledge that the emanated EM signals from the
> device occur "during a single decryption operation".  How on earth does
> an EM observer know a time interval that a single decryption is
> occurring on the device unless they already have near total control over
> the device?

As far as I understand they do not have to know anything like this.

The attack had been demonstrated against one method from well known
open source library. The only thing that stopped researchers from
demonstrating it for all of the library was their lack of time, but
this is not going to stop a thief.

As of "knowing when", I suppose one just has to record
everything. Then matching consecutive portions of the recording
against the algorithm, if no break get next portion, loop. At some
level this is as trivial as finding people talking about security on
this list - grab the archive, look for matching phrases, no need to
know when the said talk took place - if it is there, it will be
found, if not, then searching next mailing list can deliver.

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M3000 parts

2018-08-24 Thread W Mainframe
Guys,
Does anyone in Brazil is still running (or not) a Multiprise 3000 7060-Hxx?
Thank youDan

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Re: SHARE handouts

2018-08-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
As Ed Jaffe said, SHARE works hard to make all *submitted* handouts available 
ASAP after each meeting. While every presenter is encouraged to submit handouts 
early in the process--even before a session takes place--some arrive tardily, 
and a few are never submitted for 'legal reasons'. One veteran presenter and 
IBM-Main contributor, for example, stated that he could not upload his handouts 
for legal reasons but would email them directly to anyone who asked. If you 
were not in the room at that time, you would have missed that message. Ah, 500 
lawyers at the bottom of the ocean. ;-)

SHARE has no control over submission other than putting in place a mechanism 
facilitate it. It's up to the presenter to make it happen. 

.
.
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SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 6:55 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: SHARE handouts

From what I understand, the share presentations will be available on the Share 
website.  It may take some time for that to happen.  Those that attend the 
conference get them sooner.

But they should be there for any share paying member in time.

I will let the Share governing body have the final say, but that is what I 
remember from past Share events.  Time is needed for them to be available.

Lizette


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> Behalf Of R.S.
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:45 AM
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> Subject: SHARE handouts
> 
> Is there any repository for SHARE conference materials?
> Sometimes it's possible to download the PDF file and sometimes not.
> I guess SHARE is not interested in sharing that outside the 
> organisation (at least not just in time of conference), however many 
> presentations are available.
> What are the rules? What are the links for download? Are there any rules?
> 
> BTW: From copyright point of view, as far as I understand the 
> presentation is owned by the author and usually author is willing to
> *share* it...
> 
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Re: Zowe for systems programmer ?

2018-08-24 Thread Matt Hogstrom
The current implementation of file access uses two sets of APIs.  The first is 
the Explorer APIs so that we can use web-based editors (context sensitive) in 
order to access the data.  So for example, JCL, COBOL, Java grammar assists are 
available.  The Explorer APIs allow us to deliver a stable user interface.  
Currently the project is using the z/OSMF APIs for file access.  So, 
Authentication is SAF based, Authorization is SAF based.  The question about 
serialization is up to the consumer of the REST interface.  For instance, if 
editing a dataset the caller can request that the ENQ on the dataset be held to 
keep others from editing the file.

Here is a reference to the current REST APIs for data set access in z/OSMF.  
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.izua700/IZUHPINFO_API_GetReadDataSet.htm
 


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> On Aug 24, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Bruce Armstrong  wrote:
> 
> Tom - I don't know - I will find an answer. In the examples of using web 
> ui and cli, it has been limited to the files owned by a given user. 
> 
> Zowe is using z/OS services thru z/OSMF REST APIs...if you are 
> invoking a command or service that does an ENQ then I would say "yes". If 
> Zowe is invoking a command/service that does not do ENQ then "no". 
> 
> 
> 
> Bruce Armstrong 
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> 
> 
> 
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> From:   Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date:   08/24/2018 10:25 AM
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> 
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:10:45 -0400, Bruce Armstrong wrote:
> 
>> Zowe (either cli or web ui) is still using your SAF access controls via 
>> the z/OSMF REST APIs so I will say no there is not magic file sharing 
>> logic in Zowe itself. 
> 
> That doesn't answer the question that I asked. SAF determines 
> whether I can access the data set. ENQ ensures that no one else 
> can have it while I am updating it.
> 
> Does Zowe cause an appropriate ENQ to be issued?
> 
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>> From:   Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Date:   08/24/2018 08:21 AM
>> 
>> Will it do so while providing integrity so that two users can't edit the 
>> same data 
>> set (or member) at the same time, whether using Zowe or ISPF?
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Re: Zowe for systems programmer ?

2018-08-24 Thread Bruce Armstrong
Tom - I don't know - I will find an answer. In the examples of using web 
ui and cli, it has been limited to the files owned by a given user. 

 Zowe is using z/OS services thru z/OSMF REST APIs...if you are 
invoking a command or service that does an ENQ then I would say "yes". If 
Zowe is invoking a command/service that does not do ENQ then "no". 


 
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:10:45 -0400, Bruce Armstrong wrote:

>Zowe (either cli or web ui) is still using your SAF access controls via 
>the z/OSMF REST APIs so I will say no there is not magic file sharing 
>logic in Zowe itself. 

That doesn't answer the question that I asked. SAF determines 
whether I can access the data set. ENQ ensures that no one else 
can have it while I am updating it.

Does Zowe cause an appropriate ENQ to be issued?

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>
>Will it do so while providing integrity so that two users can't edit the 
>same data 
>set (or member) at the same time, whether using Zowe or ISPF?

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Re: Zowe for systems programmer ?

2018-08-24 Thread Bruce Armstrong
We (the Zowe project) understand the need to have z/OS open sandboxes to 
encourage developing, testing, innovation. 

 
Bruce Armstrong 
IBM System Z Offering Manager- zowe.org 
4205 S MIAMI BLVD, DURHAM NC 27703-9141
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'Open Mainframe Project for sharing of code much like the smart phones 
have
today '

I don't think it works like anyother open-source project ? The person who
contributes or finds a solution for a bug needs to have a Mainframe, So 
the
number of contributor will be restricted to only those who have mainframe
access and which ofcourse he/she has to use her own facility ?

On Fri 24 Aug, 2018, 6:24 PM Tom Marchant, <
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:10:45 -0400, Bruce Armstrong wrote:
>
> >Zowe (either cli or web ui) is still using your SAF access controls via
> >the z/OSMF REST APIs so I will say no there is not magic file sharing
> >logic in Zowe itself.
>
> That doesn't answer the question that I asked. SAF determines
> whether I can access the data set. ENQ ensures that no one else
> can have it while I am updating it.
>
> Does Zowe cause an appropriate ENQ to be issued?
>
> --
> Tom Marchant
>
> >From:   Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >Date:   08/24/2018 08:21 AM
> >
> >Will it do so while providing integrity so that two users can't edit 
the
> >same data
> >set (or member) at the same time, whether using Zowe or ISPF?
>
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Re: Zowe for systems programmer ?

2018-08-24 Thread Jake Anderson
'Open Mainframe Project for sharing of code much like the smart phones have
today '

I don't think it works like anyother open-source project ? The person who
contributes or finds a solution for a bug needs to have a Mainframe, So the
number of contributor will be restricted to only those who have mainframe
access and which ofcourse he/she has to use her own facility ?

On Fri 24 Aug, 2018, 6:24 PM Tom Marchant, <
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:10:45 -0400, Bruce Armstrong wrote:
>
> >Zowe (either cli or web ui) is still using your SAF access controls via
> >the z/OSMF REST APIs so I will say no there is not magic file sharing
> >logic in Zowe itself.
>
> That doesn't answer the question that I asked. SAF determines
> whether I can access the data set. ENQ ensures that no one else
> can have it while I am updating it.
>
> Does Zowe cause an appropriate ENQ to be issued?
>
> --
> Tom Marchant
>
> >From:   Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >Date:   08/24/2018 08:21 AM
> >
> >Will it do so while providing integrity so that two users can't edit the
> >same data
> >set (or member) at the same time, whether using Zowe or ISPF?
>
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Re: Zowe for systems programmer ?

2018-08-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 10:10:45 -0400, Bruce Armstrong wrote:

>Zowe (either cli or web ui) is still using your SAF access controls via 
>the z/OSMF REST APIs so I will say no there is not magic file sharing 
>logic in Zowe itself. 

That doesn't answer the question that I asked. SAF determines 
whether I can access the data set. ENQ ensures that no one else 
can have it while I am updating it.

Does Zowe cause an appropriate ENQ to be issued?

-- 
Tom Marchant

>From:   Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Date:   08/24/2018 08:21 AM
>
>Will it do so while providing integrity so that two users can't edit the 
>same data 
>set (or member) at the same time, whether using Zowe or ISPF?

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Re: Zowe for systems programmer ?

2018-08-24 Thread Bruce Armstrong
Tom - If you like ISPF stay with ISPF - there is no forced march 
here...by the way Zowe web ui includes a 3270 emulator so you can do 
ISPF through the browser. One of the demo we have shown is right mouse 
click from 3270 to involve another web app. 

Zowe (either cli or web ui) is still using your SAF access controls via 
the z/OSMF REST APIs so I will say no there is not magic file sharing 
logic in Zowe itself. 

 
Bruce Armstrong 
IBM System Z Offering Manager- zowe.org 
4205 S MIAMI BLVD, DURHAM NC 27703-9141
Email: armst...@us.ibm.com
Tel: 919-254-8773
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From:   Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 06:35:41 -0400, Bruce Armstrong wrote:

>You may 
>have your favorite editor on your laptop for editing files and you don't 
>like having to switch to ISPF to edit something on z/OS..

Assuming that your favorite editor is not the ISPF editor.

>via the Zowe 
>command line you can stay in the laptop context and Zowe will fetch a 
data 
>set behind the scene, allow it to be edited by your favorite editor and 
>save back to z/OS transparently.

Will it do so while providing integrity so that two users can't edit the 
same data 
set (or member) at the same time, whether using Zowe or ISPF?

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Re: [EXTERNAL] RES: SHARE handouts

2018-08-24 Thread Richards, Robert B.
For Sacramento, they provided a fantastic exe called 
"SHARESacramento2018Proceedings" that included an index html and multiple 
folders containing the various presentations. 

IMHO, the best method of delivery and usage that I have seen thus far.

I hope to see it RSN! :-)

Bob

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I found the presentations from the last share here: 
https://events.share.org/Summer2018/Public/sessions.aspx

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] RES: SHARE handouts

I guess that SHARE allows download of presentations only for members or who 
participate of conference in target;

I support your opinion about make presentations available to everyone after 
conference has ended. 

Carlos Bodra
IBM System Certified System z
São Paulo - Brazil

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Enviada em: sexta-feira, 24 de agosto de 2018 06:45
Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Assunto: SHARE handouts

Is there any repository for SHARE conference materials?
Sometimes it's possible to download the PDF file and sometimes not.
I guess SHARE is not interested in sharing that outside the organisation (at 
least not just in time of conference), however many presentations are available.
What are the rules? What are the links for download? Are there any rules?

BTW: From copyright point of view, as far as I understand the presentation is 
owned by the author and usually author is willing to
*share* it...

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Re: SHARE handouts

2018-08-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
>From what I understand, the share presentations will be available on the Share
website.  It may take some time for that to happen.  Those that attend the
conference get them sooner.

But they should be there for any share paying member in time.

I will let the Share governing body have the final say, but that is what I
remember from past Share events.  Time is needed for them to be available.

Lizette


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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: SHARE handouts
> 
> Is there any repository for SHARE conference materials?
> Sometimes it's possible to download the PDF file and sometimes not.
> I guess SHARE is not interested in sharing that outside the organisation (at
> least not just in time of conference), however many presentations are
> available.
> What are the rules? What are the links for download? Are there any rules?
> 
> BTW: From copyright point of view, as far as I understand the presentation is
> owned by the author and usually author is willing to
> *share* it...
> 
> --
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> Lodz, Poland
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia
> (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza
> prawo i może podlegać karze.
> 
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> Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237,
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Re: SYSREXX PDS size

2018-08-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
To enhance the information provided.  This is under AXR function in the 
Operating system.

This shows some code snippets:   
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieaa800/rxxfction.htm
 



System REXX is a z/OS® component that allows REXX execs to be executed outside 
of conventional TSO/E and Batch environments. REXX has long been considered one 
of the fastest development languages for system exit and utilities work on 
z/OS. The possibilities for exploiting REXX code through the use of System REXX 
are vast, whether to provide operator assists or to provide an easy way to 
process files and strings. The System REXX environment provides a function 
package that allows a REXX exec to invoke system commands and to return results 
back to the invoker in a variety of ways. System REXX execs may be initiated 
through an assembler macro interface called AXREXX or through an operator 
command.
There are two different System REXX environments supported:

TSO=NO
TSO=YES

In both environments, the exec runs in problem state, key 8, in an APF 
authorized address space. Any modules that are loaded, linked or attached from 
the exec, must reside in an APF authorized library; otherwise, a X'306' abend 
occurs. In both cases, the REXX exec runs under the enclave of the AXREXX 
invoker when the invoker can be classified; otherwise, the exec runs under the 
enclave of AXR.

There can be up to 64 REXX worker tasks running TSO=NO execs and up to 8 TSO 
server address spaces running TSO=YES execs. If a worker task is not available 
for an inbound TSO=NO request, or if a TSO server address space is not 
available for a TSO=YES request, the request is queued and the requestor is 
suspended if SYNC=YES is specified. The order in which System REXX processes 
queued requests may not be in the same order that the requests have been 
submitted. AXREXX invokers that use SYNC=YES should consider the potentially 
long wait time.

Lizette

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> 
> "System Rexx" Came in about z/OS 1.9 IIRC. A set of rexx api's and
> environments that allow for things like issuing commands, retrieving command
> output, etc.
> 
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> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:02 AM
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> 
> Could I ask what 'SYSREXX' means? At first I thought this referred simply to
> the standard common set of REXX execs that users allocate at logon. Is it
> something else?
> 
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> 323-715-0595 Mobile
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> 
> It all depends on the concatenation
> 
> Start ISRDDN and see how it reacts
> 
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> 
> our system rexx library is a library PDS-E, VB 255, I think the guy who set
> it up said FB 80 would not work,checking the fine manual he was correct, VB
> 255 is required
> 
> 
> 
> Carmen Vitullo
> 
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> 
> From: "Carmen Vitullo" 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> Subject: Re: SYSREXX PDS size
> 
> let me check, from what I recall sysrexx pds must be vb 255 :(
> 
> 
> Carmen Vitullo
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> Our SYSREXX PDS is currently defined as VB 255. We had a system problem this
> week that one Sysprog thinks that the the VB 255 aggravated the problem and
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Re: [EXTERNAL] RES: SHARE handouts

2018-08-24 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
I found the presentations from the last share here: 
https://events.share.org/Summer2018/Public/sessions.aspx

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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:23 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RES: SHARE handouts

I guess that SHARE allows download of presentations only for members or who 
participate of conference in target;

I support your opinion about make presentations available to everyone after 
conference has ended. 

Carlos Bodra
IBM System Certified System z
São Paulo - Brazil

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De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Em nome de R.S.
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 24 de agosto de 2018 06:45
Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Assunto: SHARE handouts

Is there any repository for SHARE conference materials?
Sometimes it's possible to download the PDF file and sometimes not.
I guess SHARE is not interested in sharing that outside the organisation (at 
least not just in time of conference), however many presentations are available.
What are the rules? What are the links for download? Are there any rules?

BTW: From copyright point of view, as far as I understand the presentation is 
owned by the author and usually author is willing to
*share* it...

--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland




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RES: SHARE handouts

2018-08-24 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
I guess that SHARE allows download of presentations only for members or who 
participate of conference in target;

I support your opinion about make presentations available to everyone after 
conference has ended. 

Carlos Bodra
IBM System Certified System z
São Paulo - Brazil

-Mensagem original-
De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Em nome de R.S.
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 24 de agosto de 2018 06:45
Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Assunto: SHARE handouts

Is there any repository for SHARE conference materials?
Sometimes it's possible to download the PDF file and sometimes not.
I guess SHARE is not interested in sharing that outside the organisation (at 
least not just in time of conference), however many presentations are available.
What are the rules? What are the links for download? Are there any rules?

BTW: From copyright point of view, as far as I understand the presentation is 
owned by the author and usually author is willing to
*share* it...

--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland




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Re: Zowe for systems programmer ?

2018-08-24 Thread Jerry Callen
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 07:20:24 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:

>> via the Zowe command line you can stay in the laptop context
>> and Zowe will fetch a data set behind the scene, allow it to
>> be edited by your favorite editor and save back to z/OS
>> transparently.

> Will it do so while providing integrity so that two users can't
> edit the same data set (or member) at the same time, whether
> using Zowe or ISPF?

I would argue that shared files that might be updated by multiple
users simultaneously should be in a source control system anyway. If
the files MUST wind up in a PDS (parmlib members, anyone?), that
staging should happen in a controlled manner.

So - keep your text files in the Unix file system under the control of
git. ISPF will happily edit USS files -- no need to copy them to a
PDS.  You can keep your parmlib members in an off-mainframe server
(like an on-premises github or bitbucket server), have your changes
code-reviewed by your fellow sysprogs, committed, and pushed to the
parmlib via a deployment mechanism like Jenkins. All that stuff is
accessed via the browser.

You think that's crazy? It's how the off-mainframe world has been
working for the past decade, at least. With the proper tools, and the
willingness to learn to use them well, it improves productivity and
reduces errors.

IMO, it's time to start treating the mainframe like the complex,
mission-critical embedded system that it is, and use modern tools
to manage it.

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Re: Anyone here exprerienced in JSON parser (assembler)

2018-08-24 Thread Jerry Callen
So I can't help but wonder: what's the big picture here? WHY is it necessary to 
parse JSON from assembler? There is presumably a good reason that assembler is 
in the driver's seat here, instead of, say, C, C++, or Python (all viable 
languages on z/OS). 

Yes, it's certainly possible to write recursive assembler code, and possible to 
do it efficiently with a stack, but WHY? It would be easier in Metal C (if the 
environment dictates that), and VERY easy from LE C/C++ or Python. And for the 
bash scripters out there, there's a nifty little command line tool (the "jq" 
command) that will parse JSON and deliver it in a convenient form to a shell 
script. (Rocket has it ported to z/OS internally, but not yet available for 
download.)

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Re: Zowe for systems programmer ?

2018-08-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 06:35:41 -0400, Bruce Armstrong wrote:

>You may 
>have your favorite editor on your laptop for editing files and you don't 
>like having to switch to ISPF to edit something on z/OS..

Assuming that your favorite editor is not the ISPF editor.

>via the Zowe 
>command line you can stay in the laptop context and Zowe will fetch a data 
>set behind the scene, allow it to be edited by your favorite editor and 
>save back to z/OS transparently.

Will it do so while providing integrity so that two users can't edit the same 
data 
set (or member) at the same time, whether using Zowe or ISPF?

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Re: SYSREXX PDS size

2018-08-24 Thread Allan Staller
"System Rexx" Came in about z/OS 1.9 IIRC. A set of rexx api's and environments 
that allow for things like issuing commands, retrieving command output, etc.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SYSREXX PDS size

Could I ask what 'SYSREXX' means? At first I thought this referred simply to 
the standard common set of REXX execs that users allocate at logon. Is it 
something else?

.
.
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Southern California Edison Company
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Steve Beaver
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 8:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: SYSREXX PDS size

It all depends on the concatenation

Start ISRDDN and see how it reacts

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:56 AM
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our system rexx library is a library PDS-E, VB 255, I think the guy who set it 
up said FB 80 would not work,checking the fine manual he was correct, VB 255 is 
required



Carmen Vitullo

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From: "Carmen Vitullo" 
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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:53:47 AM
Subject: Re: SYSREXX PDS size

let me check, from what I recall sysrexx pds must be vb 255 :(


Carmen Vitullo

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From: "Tony Thigpen" 
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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:42:52 AM
Subject: SYSREXX PDS size

Our SYSREXX PDS is currently defined as VB 255. We had a system problem this 
week that one Sysprog thinks that the the VB 255 aggravated the problem and is 
insisting that we change it to FB 80. I disagree, but I thought I would though 
it out to the list for views.

Views?

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Re: Zowe for systems programmer ?

2018-08-24 Thread Bruce Armstrong
Hey Jake - let me try to explain some different ways Zowe is intended to 
help a system programmer. "Is it going to act like a GUI to perform all 
the system related activities?" - short answer is yes over time but don't 
think of just GUI as the way to interact with z/OS. 

The web user interface is intended to be a new platform for better 
visualization of z/OS resources. You likely use web technology for 
interacting with so many other systems in your life - email, bank, cloud, 
etc. - why not use same technology for z/OS? Browser skills are pervasive 
- they don't require additional software installed on your laptop/desktop. 
Web provides better use of graphics, more "right click" capabilities, and 
more end to end views can be written with fast path to system details. 
Over the years z/OS based products have generally been built as silos or 
swim lanes of expertise and not enough cross product sharing of data. One 
aspect of the web UI is "app to app" communication in the web meaning one 
app can invoke another, feed data to another to provide new ways of 
linking applications. 

System programmer productivity is another aspect. For example using the 
new Zowe command line. There are many different use cases here for a power 
user that wants to quickly edit a data set, submit a job, etc. You may 
have your favorite editor on your laptop for editing files and you don't 
like having to switch to ISPF to edit something on z/OS..via the Zowe 
command line you can stay in the laptop context and Zowe will fetch a data 
set behind the scene, allow it to be edited by your favorite editor and 
save back to z/OS transparently. The "real" power of the command line is 
being able to script commands to perform a set of actions on z/OS - using 
the script language of your choice. A common use case for script is Devops 
pipelines where z/OS can participate like any other platform in your 
environment. 

There are many other aspects that I won't ramble on about but just mention 
- increase the use of today's z/OS REST APIs, extend those APIs in new 
ways, encourage z/OS product teams to provide APIs as the way to interact 
with their, provide a catalog of the z/OS APIs, make z/OS resources more 
discoverable, .

Part of the reason for Zowe being open source is to pool the skills of 
system programmers across the industry and share both the pain points for 
z/OS administration and operation plus find ways to address the issues by 
sharing expertise, code and experience. If someone uses the command line 
to script a common task on z/OS we what to have that contributed for 
others to use. If someone has written web app that links two products 
together in an innovative way we hope they will contribute to the Zowe 
code base. We hope to have a Zowe "app store" in 2019 with the help of the 
Open Mainframe Project for sharing of code much like the smart phones have 
today - yes there are issues to be worked out on knowing the apps are safe 
and trusted but the point is Zowe is not just technology - it is the 
community to cause innovation. 

Sorry for long post ...hope this helps 

 
Bruce Armstrong 
IBM System Z Offering Manager- zowe.org 
4205 S MIAMI BLVD, DURHAM NC 27703-9141
Email: armst...@us.ibm.com
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From:   Jake Anderson 
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Date:   08/24/2018 03:17 AM
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Hi Group

I have got a novice questions about zowe.

I am still trying to understand how zowe is going to help the system
programmer and does anyone have any idea or any insight.

Is it going to act like a GUI to perform all the system related activities
?

Jake

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SHARE handouts

2018-08-24 Thread R.S.

Is there any repository for SHARE conference materials?
Sometimes it's possible to download the PDF file and sometimes not.
I guess SHARE is not interested in sharing that outside the organisation 
(at least not just in time of conference), however many presentations 
are available.

What are the rules? What are the links for download? Are there any rules?

BTW: From copyright point of view, as far as I understand the 
presentation is owned by the author and usually author is willing to 
*share* it...


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Zowe for systems programmer ?

2018-08-24 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi Group

I have got a novice questions about zowe.

I am still trying to understand how zowe is going to help the system
programmer and does anyone have any idea or any insight.

Is it going to act like a GUI to perform all the system related activities
?

Jake

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