Re: Seperate Password for OMVS

2015-02-19 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter
 
 Hi Group,
 
 Apology for asking a dummy question. Is it possible to keep a seperate 
 Password for OMVS alone ?

Not out of the box, but so long as RACF supports password and password 
phrase as separate entities, you could design your login interactions such 
that, for example, all of your traditional z/OS applications would use the 
8-character or shorter password, and your OMVS applications would use the 
14-character[1] or longer password phrase.

-jc-

[1] With the ICHPWX11 exit you can decrease the minimum length of a password 
phrase to as few as 9 characters.

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Re: COBOL v5.1 - PTF UI24300

2015-02-17 Thread Chase, John
Seems that UI24300 did not ship an updated SRC member (just the MOD member) for 
IGYCDOPT, so the resolution was to specify both PTFs in the PRE of the USERMOD.

-jc-

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chase, John
 
 Hi, All,
 
 On z/OS 1.13 I tried to re-apply our Installation Options USERMOD (IGYWD51) 
 after APPLYing UI24300 to
 COBOL v5.1, but the re-apply failed because it did not PRE the previous PTF 
 level (!).
 
 Among other fixes, UI24300 adds a new compiler option, so the options module 
 IGYCDOPT gets updated.
 Normally, when IGYCDOPT gets updated, one must first RESTORE any Installation 
 Options USERMOD, then
 update and re-APPLY it with the new PRE level.  APPLY CHECK of UI24300 
 reminded me to RESTORE
 IGYWD51, after which APPLY CHECK and APPLY of UI24300 completed RC = 00.  I 
 then updated the USERMOD
 to increment the REWORK data and specify PRE(UI24300), and the re-APPLY 
 failed because it did not
 PRE(UI23422), which was the previous level of IGYCDOPT.  A quick browse of 
 the CSI via the SMP/E ISPF
 dialog clearly showed the RMID of IGYCDOPT as UI24300.
 
 I've opened a PMR with COBOL support, but now I'm wondering if SMP/E somehow 
 got sick.  I ran the
 whole process twice just to make sure I didn't miss anything.  Oh, I also 
 RESTOREd UI24300 after all
 that.
 
 Anybody else ever seen anything like this?
 
 TIA,
 
 -jc-

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Re: Shipping Culture Is Hurting Us, or what's wrong with I.T. development

2015-02-17 Thread Chase, John
Sounds a lot like Agile.  :-)

But then Steve Jobs made a fortune building things people didn't know they 
wanted.  :-)

-jc-

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown
 
 Too good not to pass to this group.
 
 Preach it, Brother!
 
 quote
 ...
 Quickly getting something in front of the people that will actually use it is 
 a great idea. It means
 you waste less time building something they don’t actually want. But I look 
 around the industry today
 and I get worried.
 Don’t get me wrong – I see brilliant people shipping brilliant, innovative 
 software. But I also see a
 lot of us using half-baked technologies to shove half-assed software out the 
 door.
 ...
 /quote
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com
 Date: Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:20 AM
 Subject: Shipping Culture Is Hurting Us, or what's wrong with I.T.
 development
 To: ib...@listserv.uark.edu
 
 
 A good read, imho:
 
 http://bitbashing.io/2015/02/16/shipping-culture.html
 
 Have a good one, too.
 
 ---
 Dave Jones
 V/Soft Software
 www.vsoft-software.com
 Houston, TX
 281.578.7544
 
 --
 He's about as useful as a wax frying pan.
 
 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone
 
 Maranatha! 
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COBOL v5.1 - PTF UI24300

2015-02-16 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All,

On z/OS 1.13 I tried to re-apply our Installation Options USERMOD (IGYWD51) 
after APPLYing UI24300 to COBOL v5.1, but the re-apply failed because it did 
not PRE the previous PTF level (!).

Among other fixes, UI24300 adds a new compiler option, so the options module 
IGYCDOPT gets updated.  Normally, when IGYCDOPT gets updated, one must first 
RESTORE any Installation Options USERMOD, then update and re-APPLY it with the 
new PRE level.  APPLY CHECK of UI24300 reminded me to RESTORE IGYWD51, after 
which APPLY CHECK and APPLY of UI24300 completed RC = 00.  I then updated the 
USERMOD to increment the REWORK data and specify PRE(UI24300), and the re-APPLY 
failed because it did not PRE(UI23422), which was the previous level of 
IGYCDOPT.  A quick browse of the CSI via the SMP/E ISPF dialog clearly showed 
the RMID of IGYCDOPT as UI24300.

I've opened a PMR with COBOL support, but now I'm wondering if SMP/E somehow 
got sick.  I ran the whole process twice just to make sure I didn't miss 
anything.  Oh, I also RESTOREd UI24300 after all that.

Anybody else ever seen anything like this?

TIA,

-jc-

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Re: How to identify program language from program object

2015-02-13 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ken MacKenzie
 
 In the old days, as far as I remember though I can't prove it, you used to be 
 able to look at a load
 library member, check for a certain string (e.g.
 C2 mm/dd/yy hh:mm:ss) and establish that the module - or even modules had 
 been compiled as COBOL II.
 
 Wit the advent of program objects on PDSEs and Enterprise COBOL we don't 
 appear to have that luxury.
 Does anyone know of any way to identify the language type of modules.  We 
 have File-AID at this site
 and it can identify the CSECTs within a module but it doesn't seem to be able 
 to tell me what COBOL
 version was used
 
 As we prepare to establish Enterprise COBOL 5.1 as the default, I've been 
 asked by developers if it is
 possible to give them a list of what programs were compiled with which 
 compiler and given that our
 load libraries are now almost 100% PDSE it's proving tricky.
 
 Any thoughts?

If you have the object decks, look at the END card. COBOL 5.x is 5655W3200, 
COBOL 4.x is 5655S7100, COBOL 3.x is 5655G5300, etc.  We still have some 
elderly code here; one I looked at shows 5648A2500.  I tried to look it up on 
IBMLink's Product Cross Reference page, but it seems to be broken:  EVERY 
component ID or FMID I enter returns No matches found, even the COBOL 5.x 
ones.

-jc-

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Re: How to identify program language from program object

2015-02-13 Thread Chase, John
CORRECTION:  See below.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chase, John
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ken MacKenzie
 
  In the old days, as far as I remember though I can't prove it, you
  used to be able to look at a load library member, check for a certain 
  string (e.g.
  C2 mm/dd/yy hh:mm:ss) and establish that the module - or even modules had 
  been compiled as COBOL II.
 
  Wit the advent of program objects on PDSEs and Enterprise COBOL we don't 
  appear to have that luxury.
  Does anyone know of any way to identify the language type of modules.
  We have File-AID at this site and it can identify the CSECTs within a
  module but it doesn't seem to be able to tell me what COBOL version
  was used
 
  As we prepare to establish Enterprise COBOL 5.1 as the default, I've
  been asked by developers if it is possible to give them a list of what
  programs were compiled with which compiler and given that our load 
  libraries are now almost 100%
 PDSE it's proving tricky.
 
  Any thoughts?
 
 If you have the object decks, look at the END card. COBOL 5.x is 5655W3200, 
 COBOL 4.x is 5655S7100,
 COBOL 3.x is 5655G5300, etc.  We still have some elderly code here; one I 
 looked at shows 5648A2500.
 I tried to look it up on IBMLink's Product Cross Reference page, but it seems 
 to be broken:  EVERY
 component ID or FMID I enter returns No matches found, even the COBOL 5.x 
 ones.
 
 -jc-

CORRECTION:  COBOL 5.x format has changed to show only the program number 
5655W32, followed by what looks like vvrrdddhhmmssnnn where vvrr is version 
 release and dddhhmmssnnn is Julian compile date/time and 3 digits which 
are all 0 in ours.

  -jc-

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Re: XREF Members of JCL libs and their datasets

2015-02-13 Thread Chase, John
You originally wrote complimentary, which in some contexts does mean free 
(of charge or cost).

Perhaps you meant complEmentary instead?

-jc-

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Mitch
 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:44 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: XREF Members of JCL libs and their datasets
 
 good one.  Love your sense of humor!
 
 
 
 Mitch
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: J R jayare...@hotmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Sent: Fri, Feb 13, 2015 10:31 am
 Subject: Re: XREF Members of JCL libs and their datasets
 
 
 RES Suite is comprised of over 20 complimentary and synergistic products
 
 So, they're free!
 
 ===
 
 
 
  Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:11:07 -0800
  From: charl...@mcn.org
  Subject: Re: XREF Members of JCL libs and their datasets
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
  Someone should tell Tivoli LOL:
  http://www.tivoliassociates.com/education
 
  Charles
 
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Re: a bit of hope? What was old is new again.

2015-02-09 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 
 On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:37:12 +, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com 
 wrote:
 
 We the willing,
 Are doing the impossible,
 
 I remember it as We the willing, led by the unknowing...

Also We the willing, led by the ungrateful, doing the unnecessary for the 
uncaring, .

-jc-

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Re: Strange comment in PTF.

2015-01-28 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 
 On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:31:14 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
 
 I should add that in general in the US and most countries copyright notices 
 are unnecessary. I
 compare them to a Private Property sign on your front lawn: it would still 
 be private property
 without the sign, but the sign warns your neighbors that you might be serious 
 about it.
 
 But beware of adverse possession!
 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_13100029

Difficult to imagine a claim of copyright via adverse possession.

 Under current US copyright law and the Berne Convention, copyright inures to 
 the author of a creative
 work upon the moment s/he fixes the work in a tangible medium (including, 
 by statute, computer
 memory). So if you think up a story and recite it for your friends you do not 
 own a copyright, but as
 soon as you write the story down or key it into your computer you do, notice 
 or no.
 
 Are the airwaves a tangible medium?

I'm inclined to think not, vis. The storyteller speaking a story does not own 
copyright until he commits the story to a tangible medium.  For this 
consideration I'd expect the electromagnetic waves of a broadcast to be similar 
to the sound waves of a speech.

  (I assume tape and disk are).  If a performer broadcasts a
 performance, never having recorded it, may I record it off the air without 
 violating copyright?

Who would know?  Now, if you later attempt to enrich yourself by selling copies 
of such a recording, you might encounter resistance.

-jc-
[ snip ]

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Re: OT: Friday joke :-)

2015-01-23 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown
 
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
 
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sam Siegel
  
   The question of the day is, were the balls fully inflated our not?
 
  Precisely define fully inflated.  Dig me up when everybody's
  satisfied with your definition.  :-)
 
  -jc-
 
 
 ​I am not a football person, but listening on the radio this morning, NFL 
 rules state what the psi of
 the air in the ball is supposed to be. The psi in the ball under discussion 
 was less that what is
 allowed by the NFL rules, and thus the ball was not fully inflated. Or, 
 better stated: the ball did
 not meet NFL inflation standards.​

If there is evidence, then let's go to trial.

-jc-

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Re: OT: Friday joke :-)

2015-01-23 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sam Siegel
 
 The question of the day is, were the balls fully inflated our not?

Precisely define fully inflated.  Dig me up when everybody's satisfied with 
your definition.  :-)

-jc-


 On Jan 23, 2015 6:28 AM, Duffy Nightingale, SS du...@soundsoftware.us
 wrote:
 
  Good one!  Thanks.
 
  Duffy Nightingale
 
   On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:32 AM, George Rodriguez 
  george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org wrote:
  
   lol... Very funny... Thanks for stating my Friday morning with a smile!
  
  
   *George Rodriguez*
   *Specialist II - IT Solutions*
   *IT Enterprise Applications*
   *PX - 47652*
   *(561) 357-7652 (office)*
   *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)*
   *School District of Palm Beach County*
   *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.*
   *Room B-251*
   *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869*
   *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Eight Consecutive Years*
  
   On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
   elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
  
   A pilot has to take about 20 crazy guys from Seattle to New York.
  
   Yes, you guessed correctly, they're micro$oft programmers.
  
   He is worried that they will cause trouble, so he asked an IBM
   engineer
  to
   watch them in the plane.
  
   After a few minutes the plane is shaking heavily. Up, down, banking
   left and right, etc.
  
   He asked his co-pilot to take over and rushed back.
  
   Hey, engineer! what are they doing?
  
   Oh, they're playing rugby.
  
   Just stop them please!
  
   The plane flew without problems and the pilot is getting worried
   that it is very silent back.
  
   He handed the plane to his co-pilot and went back.
  
   Engineer? Where are those programmers?
  
   Oh, I asked them to play outside!
  
   :-D
  
   Groete / Greetings
   Elardus Engelbrecht
  
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Re: OT: Friday joke :-)

2015-01-23 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schmeelk, Gregory
 P.
 Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 9:15 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: OT: Friday joke :-)
 
 At the point it bursts, it is fully inflated.

ITYM was fully inflated.

   -jc-

 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu] On 
 Behalf Of Chase, John
 Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 9:53 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: OT: Friday joke :-)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sam Siegel
 
  The question of the day is, were the balls fully inflated our not?
 
 Precisely define fully inflated.  Dig me up when everybody's satisfied with 
 your definition.  :-)
 
 -jc-
 
 
  On Jan 23, 2015 6:28 AM, Duffy Nightingale, SS
  du...@soundsoftware.us
  wrote:
 
   Good one!  Thanks.
  
   Duffy Nightingale
  
On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:32 AM, George Rodriguez 
   george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org wrote:
   
lol... Very funny... Thanks for stating my Friday morning with a smile!
   
   
*George Rodriguez*
*Specialist II - IT Solutions*
*IT Enterprise Applications*
*PX - 47652*
*(561) 357-7652 (office)*
*(561) 707-3496 (mobile)*
*School District of Palm Beach County*
*3348 Forest Hill Blvd.*
*Room B-251*
*West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869*
*Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Eight Consecutive
Years*
   
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
   
A pilot has to take about 20 crazy guys from Seattle to New York.
   
Yes, you guessed correctly, they're micro$oft programmers.
   
He is worried that they will cause trouble, so he asked an IBM
engineer
   to
watch them in the plane.
   
After a few minutes the plane is shaking heavily. Up, down,
banking left and right, etc.
   
He asked his co-pilot to take over and rushed back.
   
Hey, engineer! what are they doing?
   
Oh, they're playing rugby.
   
Just stop them please!
   
The plane flew without problems and the pilot is getting worried
that it is very silent back.
   
He handed the plane to his co-pilot and went back.
   
Engineer? Where are those programmers?
   
Oh, I asked them to play outside!
   
:-D
   
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
   
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Re: Overlaid VCON in load module

2015-01-22 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 
 On 2015-01-21 15:12, Greg Dyck wrote:
 
  Normal (non-directed) LOAD processing serializes fetch processing for a 
  module and only performs
 relocation of ACONs/VCONs once when the module is fetched.  The only way I 
 could see what you describe
 happen is if there were two RLD entries for the same VCON and it would happen 
 with one load or 20.
 
 Does CICS still do its own implementation of LOAD as I understand it used to 
 in order to circumvent
 such serialization  Program Objects would present a challenge.

There is still a CICS Loader which is used to load stuff from //DFHRPL.

-jc-

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Re: SMF RDW

2015-01-19 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler
 Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:33 AM
 
 I just want to understand ?how?.
  Why?
 
 
 I genrally say there is no stupid question, but this one is an exception. 
 There is no use in asking
 why someone wants to understand how something works. The OP stated that he 
 would like to get a deeper
 understanding. That should suffice to provide information if available 
 instead tring trying to get
 justification on the why.
 
 
 No offence intended, Elardus, but you just did answer in a similar way to my 
 query yesterday. I
 clearly stated that I'm curious to understand how OPEN works. I'm a curious 
 guy.

I can think of no detriment to anybody who seeks to understand how, or even 
why, something does as it does.  Discerning the how should not be 
inordinately difficult, but sometimes the why might be best answered with 
Spock's At the time, it seemed the logical thing to do.

-jc-

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Re: z13 unanswered question.

2015-01-15 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown
 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 10:41 AM
 
 [ snip ]
 
 How fast could a fully enabled machine mint bitcoins or other cryptocurrency? 
 How much power would
 such a machine use while doing so?
 Inquiring minds want to know!

Any speculations on what the z13 Jr will be called?  The z9, z10 and z12 had 
EC and BC models, but the z196 had the z114 as its junior machine.

Maybe z11 ?

-jc-

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Re: z13 new(?) characteristics from RedBook

2015-01-15 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown
 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 1:49 PM
 
 I'm reading the Redbook mentioned by Timothy Stipples on the z13. Some 
 interesting things, to me.
 
 [ snip ]
 10) Curious statement:
 quote
 If only Linux on z Systems is to be run under z/VM, then a z/VM mode LPAR is 
 not required, and we
 suggest that a Linux-only LPAR be used instead.
 /quote

I believe that's because z/VM is significantly cheaper if run in an IFL-only 
LPAR.

-jc-

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Re: Another z13 questions

2015-01-15 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S.
 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 1:32 PM
 
 W dniu 2015-01-15 o 20:08, zMan pisze:
  The other 5 LPARs are used by the NSA.
 
 
 Do you mean No Such Agency or I missed yet another overloaded acronym used 
 here in mainframe context?

 'Nonymous Spooks Agency   (think Edward Snowden).  :-)

-jc-

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Re: z13 unanswered question.

2015-01-15 Thread Chase, John
Context plus smiley suggest he meant there is no BitCoin machine.

   -jc-

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 Subject: Re: z13 unanswered question.
 
 There never is when to big one is announced. Are you implying knowledge 
 that there won't be a future
 BC z13?
 
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  There is no BC machine... :-)
 
 
 
  Cheers, Martin
 
 
 
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  From:   John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
 
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
  Date:   15/01/2015 16:40
 
  Subject:z13 unanswered question.
 
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  I have really enjoyed reading about the z13 and some of the new nifties.
 
  And, of course, eventually IBM will give out some harder performance
 
  number. But I'll bet there is one geek question which will not be
 
  answered.
 
 
 
  How fast could a fully enabled machine mint bitcoins or other
 
  cryptocurrency? How much power would such a machine use while doing so?
 
  Inquiring minds want to know!
 
 
 
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Re: Boston - what a place

2015-01-13 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony's Basement Computer
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:26 AM
 
 The entry for Congerville, IL is incorrect.  A farmer called it in using the 
 C scale.  I drove right
 by that morning and laughed at the radio.

BFD:  -36C = -32.8F, which is still frigid.

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Re: Boston - what a place

2015-01-12 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Shannon
 Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:04 AM
 
  When I was in Boston in August and walked up to Fenway, it was bloody hot. 
  I mean seriously hot. And
 the footy was just played in sub-zero.
 
 I live outside of Boston and am used to it (and the sub-zero would have 
 been wind chill, not
 temperature). When we lived in Minnesota in the mid-1990s my mother visited 
 twice. The first time it
 was -15F and the second time +95F. That's a 110 degree difference. She 
 couldn't believe it.

Dad got assigned to Ladd AFB, Fairbanks, Alaska in the early 1950s.  We arrived 
Fairbanks on July 4, 1953, and the temp was over +90F.  Six months later, in 
January 1954 (don't remember exact date) it was -62F.  I was in second grade 
and had to walk to school in the dark and walk home after school in the dark on 
that (and many another, similar) day.  :-)

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Re: [IBMTCP-L] Logmode Setting - Screen Size for 3270

2015-01-08 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:27 AM
 
 Cross Posted to IBM main
 
 Hello,
 
 I am using QWS emulator to connect mainframes. One of our LPAR i am able to 
 logon using IBM DYNAMIC
 with the screen size 46x133(Model3) but for the other lpars I use the same 
 terminal type but I get
 43x80(Model4).
 
 Is there a VTAM definition which controls the the screen size for a 
 particular LPAR session ?
 
 Is there anything from the VTAM side to modify so that I can pick the IBM 
 DYNAMIC terminal type screen
 model3 ?

With today's 3270 emulators almost universally supporting the 3270 Extended 
Data Stream (and thereby the QUERY structured field), you can use IBM-supplied 
logmode D4C32XX3 for everything.  I have mine configured as a 3290 (62x160) 
on z/OS and as Mod3 (32x80) or Mod4 (43x80) on z/VM.

Ensure that your TN3270 configuration includes a line like TELNETDEVICE DYNAMIC 
D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3; otherwise you'll need to specify LOGMODE(D4C32XX3) at LOGON 
time

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Re: [IBMTCP-L] Logmode Setting - Screen Size for 3270

2015-01-08 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:38 AM
 
 My connection does not uses the TELNET service but I use Session managers to 
 access the LPARS. So the
 effected LPAR connections are purely VTAM.

So how do you connect to the session managers?

   -jc-

 
 On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
 
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter
   Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:27 AM
  
   Cross Posted to IBM main
  
   Hello,
  
   I am using QWS emulator to connect mainframes. One of our LPAR i am
   able
  to logon using IBM DYNAMIC
   with the screen size 46x133(Model3) but for the other lpars I use
   the
  same terminal type but I get
   43x80(Model4).
  
   Is there a VTAM definition which controls the the screen size for a
  particular LPAR session ?
  
   Is there anything from the VTAM side to modify so that I can pick
   the
  IBM DYNAMIC terminal type screen
   model3 ?
 
  With today's 3270 emulators almost universally supporting the 3270
  Extended Data Stream (and thereby the QUERY structured field), you can
  use IBM-supplied logmode D4C32XX3 for everything.  I have mine
  configured as a 3290 (62x160) on z/OS and as Mod3 (32x80) or Mod4 (43x80) 
  on z/VM.
 
  Ensure that your TN3270 configuration includes a line like
  TELNETDEVICE DYNAMIC D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3; otherwise you'll need to
  specify
  LOGMODE(D4C32XX3) at LOGON time
 
  -jc-
 
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Re: I want to add data of 30 VSAM files to one PS flat file.

2014-12-18 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Butler
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:19 AM
 
 I'd like to state that even after 30 years of MVS, I still use the term 
 file when referring to
 mainframe datasets.  In fact, if you look at the IBM COBOL manual, you will 
 see File Organization,
 not Dataset Organization; PL/I refers to FILE Attributes, etc.  And I 
 think I can safely say I
 have never seen a DD NULLDATASET command  ;-))
 
 Don't be too hard on people just trying to learn.

Q:  What's the structural difference between a DB2 Table and a VSAM KSDS?

A:  The DB2 Table contains rows and columns.  The VSAM KSDS contains 
records and fields.

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Re: I want to add data of 30 VSAM files to one PS flat file.

2014-12-18 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM
 
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
 
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Butler
   Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:19 AM
  
   I'd like to state that even after 30 years of MVS, I still use the
   term
  file when referring to
   mainframe datasets.  In fact, if you look at the IBM COBOL manual,
   you
  will see File Organization,
   not Dataset Organization; PL/I refers to FILE Attributes, etc.
   And
  I think I can safely say I
   have never seen a DD NULLDATASET command  ;-))
  
   Don't be too hard on people just trying to learn.
 
  Q:  What's the structural difference between a DB2 Table and a VSAM KSDS?
 
  A:  The DB2 Table contains rows and columns.  The VSAM KSDS
  contains records and fields.
 
 
 Hum, I might go a bit further. A VSAM KSDS is a disk data set which contains 
 records. A KSDS does
 not contain fields known to the access method. Therefore a VSAM KSDS does 
 not have any fields in
 it. The fields within a KSDS record are imposed by the program reading the 
 data set by overlaying
 the buffer contain the record with a template (COBOL FD or equivalent). VSAM 
 itself does not know
 anything about them. At most, VSAM knows the location and length of the key 
 data. This key data could
 be a single field or a composite of multiple fields in some application.
 
 BTW, have you been reading some of Joe Celko's SQL books? That, in general, 
 is one thing he is
 constantly emphasizing about the difference between files (he doesn't use 
 data set) and
 databases. As he keeps drumming:
 A table IS NOT a file! A row is not a record. And a column is not a 
 field.

Yabbut

The structure of a DB2 table is imposed by the table definition, just like 
the structure of a KSDS is imposed by the DSECT (or HLL equivalent).  The 
access method in both cases is still VSAM (ignoring the difference between 
CI access for the LDS used by DB2 and the logical record access normally 
used for a KSDS); SQL is the API for DB2, while RYO applies for KSDS.

At the lowest level, on DASD both are just strings of ones and zeroes.  :-)

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Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=32767?

2014-12-16 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 
 [ snip ]
 My question is, why should there be a limit of 32761?  I understand the 
 signed halfword format imposes
 a limit of 32767.  I see no reason for any smaller limit.

In a VSAM Control Interval (CI), the CIDF is 4 bytes (think BDW) but the RDF 
is three bytes (think RDW).  So, with VSAM you get an extra byte of space.  
:-)

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Re: Regular Expressions in ISREDIT z/OS 2.01

2014-12-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Alan Watthey
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:45 PM
 
 David,
 
 Yes, this function works perfectly for me.  You need to use R or RC in front 
 of what you are finding
 or changing (first parameter).
 
 You have to learn regular expressions of course which can be a bit mind 
 blowing but knowing PERL helps
 in my case. Although everyone seems to implement regular expressions 
 differently enough to make you
 have to think.
 
 I love this new feature because I can now change lower case to lower case and 
 upper case to upper case
 separately in files.

Having a brain cramp  If you change lower case to lower case, what gets 
changed?  Same question for upper case to upper case.

   -jc-

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SLIP SET vs DISPLAY SLIP

2014-12-11 Thread Chase, John
Hi, List,

I set a SLIP IF trap that included DATA=(0R,EQ,0,AND,12R,EQ,25BD8),ID=ID01.

The response to a D SLIP=ID01 command shows 
DATA=0,0R,EQ,,AND,12R,EQ,00025BD8 .

Where did that leading zero immediately after the DATA= come from?  I deleted 
and reset the SLIP, and the leading zero is still there on a D SLIP command.

TIA,

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Re: SLIP SET vs DISPLAY SLIP

2014-12-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Chase, John
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:29 PM
 
 Hi, List,
 
 I set a SLIP IF trap that included DATA=(0R,EQ,0,AND,12R,EQ,25BD8),ID=ID01.
 
 The response to a D SLIP=ID01 command shows 
 DATA=0,0R,EQ,,AND,12R,EQ,00025BD8 .
 
 Where did that leading zero immediately after the DATA= come from?  I 
 deleted and reset the SLIP,
 and the leading zero is still there on a D SLIP command.
 
 TIA,
 
 -jc-

Sorry; it's on z/OS 1.13.

  -jc-

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Re: Regular Expressions in ISREDIT z/OS 2.01

2014-12-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:08 PM
 
 On 12/12/2014 11:38 AM, David Speake wrote:
  I did a double DUH! when I saw the missing R reply. It wasn't quite that 
  bad.I cannot cut/paste the
 brackets  []
  from/to or to/from my Reflections for IBM 3270 emulator session. Had to FTP 
  them into my TSO/PDS and
 ofcourse key them into the question. The Find 
 command in the macro did
 have the brackets. I still cannot find that C runtime that the Help facility 
 says that I MUST have.
 Cross Posting to ISPF-L at Notre Dame.
 
 
 The non-XPLINK C runtime (/CEEEV003//)/ can be found in CEE.SCEERUN. At most 
 sites that's in the
 linklist.

It's also delivered in CEE.SCEELPA (z/OS 1.13), so it might be in the LPA also.

-jc-

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Re: I want to add data of 30 VSAM files to one PS flat file.

2014-12-10 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of MURALI KANNAN
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:13 AM
 
 I would sort the VSAM files using a key and then copy the data to flat file, 
 to avoid duplication or
 merging of data.
 Correct me if I am wrong.

The OP did not specify what type of VSAM datasets are involved.  If KSDS, they 
are already sorted on a key value, and might be amenable to a MERGE operation 
(but what about duplicate keys?).  Other considerations:  1)  Are all the VSAM 
datasets the same type?  2) Do they all have the same RECFM and LRECL?  3)  are 
there any alternate indices in the set?

Based on the limited information given originally, the simplest means seems to 
be IDCAMS REPRO from each VSAM dataset in turn, to a VB flat file coded with 
DISP=MOD.  Whether that output VB flat file might be useful is a separate 
problem.

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Re: Ancient IEFUSI

2014-12-09 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:54 PM
 
 On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 06:03:50 -0500, Mitch wrote:
 
  ... but why check when a job is submitted?  Why not check before ...
 
 Wheww - tuff requirements.
 I've done some exits in my time, but none that get inside users head(s) - not 
 real sure I want to go
 there.

Does this mean you're giving up on the DWIM macro?  :-)

-jc-

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Re: RSU UNZIP space issue.

2014-12-09 Thread Chase, John
We have a full-volume zfs on a Mod-9 set aside for this kind of situation.  
Gives us about 8 GiB.  Just hang it on a convenient mount point and point 
//SMPWKDIR at it, and away we go.

-jc-

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:20 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU UNZIP space issue.
 
 So the statement
 
 originalsize=5085091600  or 5,085,091,600 bytes.
 
 That is probably how big the file should be.  However I would make it larger.
 
 What is the current size?
 
 
 Lizette
 
 
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  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
  Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 7:08 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: RSU UNZIP space issue.
 
  Hello Kurt,
Thanks for response. I just checked this
  /u/SLE/RSU1410/GIMPAF.XML file and found below entry.
 
  ARCHDEF
  name=SMPPTFIN/S0001.SHOPZ.S2654303.SMPMCS.pax.Z
  type=SMPPTFIN
  originalsize=5085091600
  size=2760339456
  hash=1C69AA496915DB08EF19DBC53C0A0221D6EC7D39
  /ARCHDEF
 
  By looking at this, can you please suggest, what should be the size of
  /u/SLE/RSU1410/temp for SMPWKDIR DD.
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Kurt Quackenbush ku...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 
   But my unzip still getting failed, with below error. I tried enough
   ways by
   having larger size but same issue.
  
  
   The space error occurs during the unpax operation.  Therefore, the
   directory identified on the SMPWKDIR DD statement is where you need
   free space.  In your case that is /u/SLE/RSU1410/temp.  I suggest
   you check out file /u/SLE/RSU1410/GIMPAF.XML and look for the
   ARCHDEF statement that describes the SMPMCS file.  On that
   statement is an originalsize attribute that identifies, in bytes,
   how big the uncompressed original SMPMCS file is.  You will need at
   least this much free
  space in the SMPWKDIR directory.
  
   Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
  
 
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Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Ten Eyck
 Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:10 AM
 
 Sorry for the confusion... these LPARs are in a Parallel Sysplex (using CF), 
 but not utilizing many of
 the Parallel Sysplex features. Reading through the documentation... I guess 
 it might fall under the
 description of BronzePlex.

Ahh...  Just enough sysplexing to qualify for PSLC.  :-)

-jc-

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Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Chu
 Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:10 PM
 
 Hi Doug,
 
 Ok, so I need to make the z2.1 dasd volumes that contains the datasets to be 
 mounted available to the
 zOS 1.13 system.  How would I catalog the
 z2.1 datasets in zOS1.13?  I haven't found a way to catalog those zFS 
 datasets.
 
 Any ideas?

Shared catalog?

-jc-

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Re: Death of spinning disk?

2014-12-01 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
 Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 2:14 AM
 
 [ snip ]
 
 - smoke/vapor-based recording;
 I use the word recording here quite consciously. These recording systems 
 could not be played back
 when they were invented and used. They were simply used for studying the 
 general behavior and
 characteristics of sound waves.
 Now, thanks to digital processing -- high resolution digital scans of the 
 smoke imprints combined with
 computer-based reconstruction of the audio that produced the imprints -- the 
 information they contain
 can be recovered. That's how the world's oldest sound recordings are now 
 being retrieved.
 Unfortunately Abraham Lincoln probably didn't speak into such a mechanism, or 
 at least his recording
 was lost, so it's extremely unlikely a recording of his voice will ever be 
 recoverable and playable.

Might have been fun to hear Chopin and Liszt play Dueling Pianos  :-)

[ snip ]

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Re: Archive search problems

2014-11-26 Thread Chase, John
Google 'bit.listserv'.


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt
 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:21 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Archive search problems
 
 Dave, thanks that's awesome. Is there an index in google for all the listserv 
 groups?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Jousma, David
 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:03 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Archive search problems
 
 In the absence of that, you can see everything here:
 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/bit.listserv.ibm-main
 
 I actually find it easier to use this than the archives.
 _
 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 
 616.653.2717
 
 
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:00 AM
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 I am unable to search the archives because listserv.ua.edu keeps telling me 
 to sign in, even though I
 am already signed in. I even changed my pw and confirmed it. But when I go to 
 the archives and try to
 search I get the sign in screen and my pw is not accepted. The results are 
 the same with Chrome and
 IE. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: No surprise: Bloomberg report on no shortage of tech workers

2014-11-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown
 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:01 AM
 
 Just a shortage of LOW COST workers who can do the job.
 quote
 The real issue, say Salzman and others, is the industry’s desire for 
 lower-wage,more-exploitable guest
 workers, not a lack of available American staff. “It seems pretty clear that 
 the industry just wants
 lower-cost labor,” Dean Baker, the co-director of the Center for Economic and 
 Policy Research, wrote
 in an e-mail.
 /quote
 
 http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-11-24/the-tech-worker-shortage-doesnt-really-exist

yawn
So, when has an industry or business ever sought out higher-priced labor when 
qualified, competent lower-priced labor was available?  Or was I asleep at 
the time?

-jc-

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Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:14 AM
 
 Peter Ten Eyck wrote:
 
 LE runtime is TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96)
 
 Ok. I will bite. I see in LE book, this:
 
 Under non-CICS, if the appropriate DD statement is used, you will get a 
 system dump of your user
 address space.
 
 A$$suming you're not running CICS, did you used that DD statement?
 
 (Even after some RTFM, I think it is CEEDUMP, yes, I know you wrote you used 
 CEEDUMP, but now I'm
 wondering?)

I believe, but am not inclined to look it up at this moment, it is //SYSUDUMP 
or //SYSMDUMP, depending on whether you want a formatted dump or one you can 
examine with IPCS.

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Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:42 AM
 
 Lizette Koehler wrote:
 
 Also these share presentations may be helpful
 http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/lang_environment/confer
 ence/share.html
 
 Ah, yes. I remember now. Thanks Lizette!
 
 Peter Ten Eyck, are you using a SLIP? According to that presentation, you 
 should not use a SLIP on
 S0Cx abends. Please review your SLIP settings.
 
 Also I see there: 'LE environment has already been cleaned-up and therefore a 
 dump at this point is
 useless.'
 
 Hmmm, very interesting.

Indeed.  We're currently working a PMR in which, to get an SVCDUMP of a S0C4 
before LE's condition handlers got hold of it, we coded an LE override 
'TRAP(OFF,NOSPIE)' in the PROC and set a SLIP trap for the 31 jobs (we used the 
default MATCHLIM=1 because we needed only one dump).  We also had to disable 
Fault Analyzer's dump intercept with //IDIOFF DD DUMMY in the PROC.

We also concurrently had a SLIP SA trap recording a GTF trace on the same 31 
jobs.

IBM Support now has all that doc; hopefully it will reveal the culprit.

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Re: SOC1 and SYSUDUMP and CEEDUMP

2014-11-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:46 AM
 
 On 11/25/2014 8:19 AM, Chase, John wrote:
 [ snip ]
 
  Indeed.  We're currently working a PMR in which, to get an SVCDUMP of a 
  S0C4 before LE's condition
 handlers got hold of it, we coded an LE override 'TRAP(OFF,NOSPIE)' in the 
 PROC and set a SLIP trap
 for the 31 jobs (we used the default MATCHLIM=1 because we needed only one 
 dump).  We also had to
 disable Fault Analyzer's dump intercept with //IDIOFF DD DUMMY in the PROC.
 
  We also concurrently had a SLIP SA trap recording a GTF trace on the same 
  31 jobs.
 
  IBM Support now has all that doc; hopefully it will reveal the culprit.
 
   -jc-
 
 
 
 If you want to see the environment before clean up, look at these LE runtime 
 options for TERMTHDACT:
 UADUMP, UAONLY, UATRACE, UAIMM.

Tried UAIMM; it dumped too late for the problem we're having.  Thus the 
'TRAP(OFF,NOSPIE)' and a SLIP trap.

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Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM in batch?)

2014-11-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:25 PM
 
 I was told that System Programming would be reduced to PARMLIB updates. Circa 
 1981.
 And..

In a previous job as a CSR for an ISV, we got a new boss.  In his first intro 
meeting, he explained that our job was, essentially, to try to work ourselves 
out of a job.

But fear not:  New releases always introduced new bugs^H^H^H^Hfeatures.  :-)

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Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ??? ?? ???
 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:55 AM
 
 Hi,
 
 Is it possible to use RECEIVE ORDER for a specific FMID?
 
 I am running SMP/E 36.11 on z/OS 1.13.

Yes, but only if the specific FMID is the only FMID in a specified Target Zone, 
or you specify CONTENT(PTFS(list_of_ptfs_applicable_to_specific_FMID)).

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Re: Getting ptfs for a specific FMID

2014-11-24 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:01 AM
 
 On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07:41:14 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
 
 http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21225816
 
  You can order maintenance in the following ways:
 
 individual PTFs
 PTFs for individual APARs
 service for individual installed FMIDs   
  ---
 -
 service for individual installed products (requires SMP/E 3.2)
 service for all installed products in one or more SMP/E zones
 service for all licensed products in one or more SRELs (new and
  improved - not a service only CBPDO)
 
 But consider: you might also need:
 
 o PTFs for cross-FMID (IF ...) REQs
 
 o Cross-FMID PTFs resolving HOLD ERRORs
 
 sort of a RECEIVE ORDER GROUPEXTEND.

GROUPEXTEND seems to be in force when the IFREQ FMID(s) exist(s) in (one of) 
the target zone(s) specified on RECEIVE ORDER.  I have ordered specific PTFs 
for (e.g.) the COBOL v5.1 compiler (HADB510), and IFREQ PTF(s) for Language 
Environment (LE) were also RECEIVEd when I specified 
FORTGTZONES(CBL510T,MVST100).  We have LE (HLE7780) in the MVST100 zone

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Re: Tail of MVS SYSLOG

2014-11-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:08 AM
 
 One solution I saw was using a Screen Scrapper process.
 
 Have a PC setup that only has SYSLOG streaming to it. Then have the screen 
 scrapper monitor.

I'm pretty sure you meant scraper rather than scrapper.  A bit of 
difference between the two, and chell specker won't catch it.  :-)

-jc-

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Re: RDz v9.0 and DIAGxx VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO)

2014-11-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of nitz-...@gmx.net
 
  Is anybody out there running the RSE server on z/OS (1.13) with 
  USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) successfully?
 Anybody have any other idea why today the developers cannot authenticate to 
 the RSE server as they did
 before the most recent IPL of the DEV lpar?
 
 We are running RSED8.5 with USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) successfully. [ snip ]
 
 As for the second question: What else was changed with that IPL?

Nothing.  The USEZOSV1R9RULES(N0) was supposed to have been included in the 
previous weekend's IPL of RSU1409 maintenance (plus HIPERs, PE fixes, SECINTs 
and all available PTFs for COBOL compilers and LE) but got overlooked.  
Thus, a catch-up IPL was scheduled when normally we IPL that lpar monthly, on 
a maintenance weekend.

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Re: SMP/E APPLY output capture question

2014-11-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hardee, Chuck
 
 No, at least not intentionally.
 When I run my usermod using no changes to the CSI and/or JCL, the output is 
 directed, via the MSGCLASS
 parm on the JOB statement to class X, which is a hold queue. When I modify 
 the output requirements to
 go to another class, class F in this case, it, too, is a held class that our 
 Production Control
 personnel receive output in that has to be reviewed and then, if it passes 
 muster, is filed into their
 source control system.
 
 In the off chance that that was the case, I added HOLD=YES on the DD 
 statement for SYSPRINT, but
 whether that worked or not, I can't say as I never received any output on 
 that DD when I ran my APPLY,
 which is another issue I had pointed out in previous replies.
 
 Frankly I am confused as to what is happening since what I am wanting to do 
 should be very straight
 forward.

Indeed, JCL overrides just work.

Assuming you have DDDEFs for all required datasets, your APPLY job that works 
could be as simple as:

//jobname  JOB acctg.info,MSGCLASS=X,...
//stepname EXEC PGM=GIMSMP[,REGION=0M[,...]]
//SMPCSI   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=my.smp.global.csi
//SMPCNTL  DD *
  SET BDY(tgtzone) .
  APPLY S(usermod) ASSEM REDO .
/*

Based on your descriptions, you get your //SYSPRINT output in class X.

To get your //SYSPRINT output into class F, you need only add one JCL statement:

//jobname  JOB acctg.info,MSGCLASS=X,...
//stepname EXEC PGM=GIMSMP[,REGION=0M[,...]]
//SMPCSI   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=my.smp.global.csi
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=F  === add this statement
//SMPCNTL  DD *
  SET BDY(tgtzone) .
  APPLY S(usermod) ASSEM REDO .
/*

It really is that simple.

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Re: SMP/E APPLY output capture question

2014-11-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hardee, Chuck
 
 See, that's the rub.
 As I understand SMP/E, if there is no DD in the JCL, then SMP/E will allocate 
 based on the DDDEFs.
 If there is a DD in the JCL, then SMP/E will use it.
 
 The first attempt at capturing the output was to do exactly as you indicated.
 That didn't work for whatever reason, and I say it that way because not only 
 did I get no output on
 SYSPRINT, I did not get any errors reported on the JES log, SYSMSGs, SMPOUT 
 or SMPRPT.
 
 And, I'm using a usermod that APPLYs with a return code of 0 and an assembly 
 listing as well as a link
 map.

Are you perhaps trying to re-capture the //SYSPRINT by doing APPLY CHECK?  
With CHECK, you won't get any assembly or link-edit output.

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Re: SMP/E APPLY output capture question

2014-11-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hardee, Chuck
 
 No, I have an APPLY CHECK step executing separately, ahead of, my APPLY.
 It's the APPLY step I'm trying to capture.

To the extent you can do so without divulging any proprietary information, 
could you copy / paste the actual job you're running in its entirety?  
Something is obviously amiss.

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RDz v9.0 and DIAGxx VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO)

2014-11-10 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All,

This past weekend we IPLed our DEV lpar with VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) for the 
first time.  After a brief period (on Sunday), it was noticed that one 
subsystem failed to start (an ancient Oracle API of some kind).  A fresh 
DIAGxx containing USEZOSV1R9R7LES(YES) was dynamically activated, and the 
recalcitrant subsystem started normally.

Today, application developers using RDz are unable to authenticate to the host 
RSE (Remote System Explorer) server, getting error RSEC1002 Invalid password 
or User ID.  On the off chance that the USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) at IPL might have 
munged something, I bounced the RSE server on the host, but to no avail.

Is anybody out there running the RSE server on z/OS (1.13) with 
USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) successfully?  Anybody have any other idea why today the 
developers cannot authenticate to the RSE server as they did before the most 
recent IPL of the DEV lpar?

TIA,

-jc-

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Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-27 Thread Chase, John
Reaching 100% might make you SAD.  :-\

   -jc-

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Vernooij, CP
 (SPLXM) - KLM
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:28 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?
 
 Rereading your answer, I wonder what it is that 'we should not get anywhere 
 near'?
 
 Kees.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Martin Packer
 Sent: 27 October, 2014 9:57
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?
 
 We should throw the 30% rule in the bin IM(NS)HO. Only relates to Continuous 
 Slot Allocation Algorithm
 break down and we shouldn't get anywhere near it; The economics of memory 
 (and a fortiori with
 Flash) make this near obsolete.
 
 Cheers, Martin
 
 Martin Packer,
 zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of 
 Excellence, IBM
 
 +44-7802-245-584
 
 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
 
 Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
 Blog:
 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
 
 
 
 From:   Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date:   27/10/2014 08:11
 Subject:Re: What address space is using AUX slots?
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 
 
 The 30% rule is a performance rule, not a capacity rule:
 1. you should have enough space to accommodate a large page-out burst, when I 
 occurs.
 2. you should not fill this space over 30% to keep good performance on your 
 page-outs. Although I
 think this rule is more important in a constantly paging system and less 
 important for a one time
 page-out burst.
 
 Kees.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Mike Schwab
 Sent: 25 October, 2014 0:08
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?
 
 As long as he doesn't exceed 30% usage, he should be fine.  Maybe 
 automatically issue the command
 hourly to find the peak?
 
 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:
  Just because you are not paging due to lots of real/flash isn't a
  reason
 to not have sufficient page datasets in case you need them for dumping of 
 some runaway memory gobbler.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:38 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?
 
  Peter Hunkeler wrote:
 
  It seems, we've got enough real storage and enough Flash Memory.
  There is
  hardly any paging. We've got two local page data sets mainly because
  VIO paging will not go to Flash Memory.
 
  We're starting to see local page data set usage at ~30%. I conclude
  that this
  must be VIO data being paged out.
 
  What let you arrive at that conclusion? Just curious if you don't
  mind
 please.
 
 
  I'm not very fluent in using neither RMF, nor MAINVIEW. I'd like to
  find out
  which AS is causing this AUX usage. Not that I'd currently think,
  we're in touble. Just curious. Does anyone have some hints where to
 start?
 
  Do you want 'snapshot' (with RMF II), interactive monitoring (RMF
  III) or some post-processing? Depending on what you want to do, you
  can use RMF batch using SMF records, RMF II or RMF III or RMF
 Spreadsheet Reporter.
 
  (Or you can go Martin Packer's entertaining way... :-D )
 
 
  Groete / Greetings
  Elardus Engelbrecht
 
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Re: [ANN] Lua4z: the Lua programming language on z/OS, with batteries

2014-10-24 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford
 
 On 24/10/2014 6:50 AM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
  Doesn't the example in the benchmark show performance problems in
  EXECIO instead of REXX? EXECIO, IMO, is not part of the REXX
  interpreter, but instead it is a vehicle (an external function) to do
  I/O from REXX on z/OS.
  Other REXX implementations
  (for example, on Linux or Windows) don't use EXECIO etc.; I/O there is
  done with native REXX functions.
 
 
 I don't want to be too disparaging about REXX but I've profiled it
 extensively and it is not an effecient implementation. The variable
 access routines are where it spends a lot of time so any address SUBCOM
 interface is slow
 when compared to fast scripting languages.  Compiled REXX has a serious
 flaw in it's memory management. I profiled it using IBM APA and it
 appears to do a GETMAIN every time it wants a new stem varaible element.
 It could be dramatically improved just be using a better storage
 manager. I would want my money back if I paid for the REXX compiler.
 
  So to be fair, the REXX interpreter functions should be compared with Lua
  interpreter functions, for example: some loop control or arithmetic.
  Compiled languages like C will always outperform interpreted languages
  in this area, so such comparisons are only of academic interest.
 
 
 Lua is written in C and the majority of it's libraries are too. In some
 cases there is only 10% overhead for the Lua VM. I've got an SQL
 bench-test where Lua is not too far off C. And much easier to code and
 maintain.
 
 OK, let's try simple matrix multiplication which should test both array
 access and math.
 
 /* REXX */
 arg count
 if count =  then count = 100
 start = sysvar(SYSCPU)
 do i = 1 to count
a.i = i * i
 end
 say 'CPU time = 'sysvar(SYSCPU) - start
 
 CPU time = 3.57
 
 local t = require(timer)()
 local count = arg[1]  or 100
 local a = {}
 for i = 1, count do a[i]  = a[i] * i end
 t:print_elapsed()
 
 elapsed time: 0.131965
 
 
 That's a huge difference, two orders of magnitude.

But remember that IBM also sells hardware..  :-)

  -jc-

 
  Kind regards
 
  Bernd
 
 
 
  Am 24.10.2014 00:24, schrieb Shane Ginnane:
  Good one Dave, glad you were able to convince your powers that be
  to get this out the door.
  Let's hope it gets some acceptance.
 
  Now you have Lua installed why don't you bench-test it against REXX and
  report if you get similar results to what I get on my machine
  Now don't you go training everybody out there as to what a slug REXX
  really is ...  ;-)
 
  Shane ...
 
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Re: ShopzSeries down?

2014-10-24 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B.
 
 I get the same 'null'. I am trying to get a Security Integrity APAR (SIA) PTF 
 for MQ. :-(

Have you not configured a RECEIVE ORDER job for obtaining PTFs?

Greatest thing since sliced bread.  :-)

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Re: ShopzSeries down?

2014-10-24 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Beesley, Paul
 
 Oh for a mainframe with an internet connection ... sadly, not... customers 
 say no.
 A RECEIVE ORDER capability here would be welcomed...

Our sandbox system is allowed client only external access, and only to IBM 
and our ISVs.

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Re: Question about Enterprise COBOL 5.1 LE compatible level.

2014-10-23 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Yuhas
 
 I have been asked to install Enterprise COBOL 5.1 which went GA in October of 
 2013.
 
 We are currently running z/OS 1.13 with a current RSU Level of 1404.  We have 
 Enterprise COBOL 4.2 and
 the corresponding LE level that came with z/OS 1.3 in February of 2012.
 
 Correct me if  I am wrong, but, I don't think our current level of LE can 
 support COBOL 5.1.  Is there
 some maintenance that will upgrade our LE level to be compatible with COBOL 
 5.1?

There are a few PTFs for LE that are required to support Enterprise COBOL 
v5.1.  The minimum are listed in the COBOL v5.1 Program Directory, but several 
more have been issued since then.

The have been several PTFs issued for COBOL 5.1 as well, including a few 
roll-up PTFs you probably should consider essential.  Each of those 
roll-ups, most recently issued in March, May, July and September 2014, 
addresses a dozen or more APARs.

You might also consider a recent COBOL 4.2 PTF that introduces a new 
compile-time option FLAGMIG4, intended to identify existing source statements 
and compile-time options that might be unsupported or handled differently in 
COBOL 5.1.

Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the PTFs handy at the moment.

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Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED

2014-10-22 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells
 
  What is the maximum number of cyclinders that can be used to define a dsn 
  that is not VSAM EXTENDED.
 I think it is 4400 cylinders.  I was trying to allocate a dsn at 4500 4500 
 but I kept on abending with
 IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES
 
  Finally I was able to allocate the dsn at CYL(4350 4350).
 
 z/OS DFSMS Using Data Sets documents maximum data set sizes, including limits 
 for both extended format
 and nonextended format VSAM data sets, in Topic 1.3.2.3. It says that 
 nonextended VSAM data sets have
 a limit of 4GB*.
 
 (4GB* / 56664 / 15) = 5,053 cylinders (approximately)
 
 [ snip ]
 
 * I believe that is most likely GiB for the pedantic among us.

IIRC, DASD capacities are expressed in decimal, rather than binary, quantities:

4KB = 4,000 bytes;
4MB = 4,000,000 bytes;
4GB = 4,000,000,000 bytes;
Etc.

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Re: 64bit

2014-10-21 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 
 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:36:38 -0400, Don Poitras wrote:
 
 I guess it depends what you mean by I would like to use 64bit storage
 for some functions from Cobol. If the Cobol part is never going to
 directly use the memory, then there's no problem in a called program in
 another language using above the bar storage. Just remember to SAM 31
 before you return to Cobol (unless you use one of the calls
 that automatically returns you in the correct amode.)
 
 If you have an assembler called program, you don't need to issue SAM31 before 
 returning as long as you
 were called with one of BASSM, BASR or BALR. In all of these cases the return 
 register (R14) contains
 sufficient information so that BSM will return correctly.

But see APAR PI17184 for an instance when BSM did not return correctly.

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Re: 64bit

2014-10-21 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
 
 Chase, John wrote:
 
 But see APAR PI17184 for an instance when BSM did not return correctly.
 
 Curious PER, hmmm. Is that only for COBOL 5.1 programs running under CICS?

That was the situation when I opened the PMR for which the APAR was opened.  
Presumably it could have occurred in a batch program as well.
 
 With what LE version is that APAR?

z/OS 1.13 (HLE7780)

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Re: HSM Recall process

2014-10-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 
 z/OS V1.12 - Yes I know.
 
 
 Okay, I am sure this is in a very easy to locate part of the HSM Admin 
 manual, but I just am not
 seeing it.
 
 This should be an easy question.  I want to recall 5000 datasets.  Do I still 
 need to
 1) List all datasets from an HLIST
 2) Sort that list on the Migrate Volser
 3) Send in the recalls based on the collection of datasets based on which 
 migrate volume they are on?
 
 Or can I enter all of the requests and HSM is smart enough to know to recall 
 all of the datasets from
 the same tape and not mount tapes as it reads the DSNs in FIFO?
 
 
 The helpful manual is not really helping.

Our HSM guru cites this:

Found this in the HSM Admin for Z/OS 1.11 -

An exception to the order of processing is when doing recalls from tape, where 
DFSMShsm reduces the number of mounts by doing several recalls from a given 
tape while the tape is continuously mounted. If a recall task has just 
completed a recall from a tape, it processes the highest-priority request that 
is currently on the queue for that same tape, no matter where the request is 
positioned on the queue.
DFSMShsm continues to process only recalls from this single tape for a duration 
of time that is specified by the TAPERECALLLIMITS parameter. After the time 
specified by the TAPERECALLLIMITS parameter is reached, DFSMShsm determines 
whether a higher-priority recall request that needs this tape exists on another 
DFSMShsm host. If so, it ends the recall processing on the tape by the current 
DFSMShsm host, freeing the tape for use by other hosts. If no higher-priority 
request exists, DFSMShsm continues to process any recalls requested from the 
tape. DFSMShsm checks after every recall for a higher-priority recall request 
from other hosts.

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Re: Performance in S9(08) COMP

2014-10-16 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Arellanes
 
 You might want to read the COBOL Performance Tuning paper (for Enterprise 
 COBOL 4.2) at:
 http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203q=7018287uid=swg27018287
 to see the performance implications of various compiler options, run-time 
 options, data types, and
 other factors.

Interesting.

Is an update for Enterprise COBOL v5.1 planned, or in the works?  Would such 
an update include data on the effects of the different ARCH(n) levels?

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Re: Performance in S9(08) COMP

2014-10-15 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ron Thomas
 Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:47 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Performance in S9(08) COMP
 
 Hi .
 
 In our cobol programs we have the variables declared as s9(09) COMP,  now one 
 of the experts in our
 area is proposing to use s9(08) COMP as this would give better performace . 
 Could some one please let
 us know  whether the change is going to provide good performance ?

It depends.  See the following two links (Enterprise COBOL v4.2, but probably 
valid back to VS COBOL II):

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SS6SG3_4.2.0/com.ibm.entcobol.doc_4.2/PGandLR/ref/rlddecom.htm

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SS6SG3_4.2.0/com.ibm.entcobol.doc_4.2/PGandLR/ui/up4060.htm

   -jc-

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Re: Upgrade to Enterprise COBOL v5.1

2014-10-12 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bernd Oppolzer
 
 I only had similar problems once in 2008 ca., but then subtasking was 
 involved and APL etc., and there
 was some sort of race condition where one subtask ran too fast and the 
 POST/WAIT protocol dit not work
 ... ABEND S201, IIRC ...
 the error was in IBM code, not in ours.
 
 The problem occured only on newer hardware with many processors, only every
 5 hours or so, and only when there was heavy load by other concurrent jobs.
 IBM maintenance was not able to reproduce the error, because our machines 
 were faster than theirs.
 
 Very hard to find ...
 
 I don't think that such problems may be involved here ...

I'm inclined to think not, as well.  GTF trace (we captured the last 15 seconds 
or so before dump invocation) showed that each alteration of the monitored 
storage was caused by the same LE module, and the only two values observed were 
x'' and the same non-zero value every time it was non-zero.

 another idea that comes to mind: areas of storage that are normally zero, but 
 now due to opsys release
 changes etc. are non-zero, and the application (which by error doesn't 
 initialize some automatic
 variables properly) now fails.
 That is: a programming error that was there all the time, but now shows up 
 for the first time.

Certainly possible, but we think very unlikely.  The same source code, compiled 
with COBOL 4.2, runs without problem every time.  The application program 
itself was first written in 1996, when we were using OS/VS COBOL and VS COBOL 
II.

And we still run z/OS with VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES=YES defaulted in DIAGxx.

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Re: Upgrade to Enterprise COBOL v5.1

2014-10-10 Thread Chase, John
It appears that we captured relevant problem data via GTF tonight, so we shall 
see what we shall see, when we see it.

-jc-


 -Original Message-
 From: Chase, John
 Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:44 PM
 To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Upgrade to Enterprise COBOL v5.1
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Keith Smith
 
  Cut-n-past to the list maybe?
 
 I s'pose:
 
 something like
 SLIP
 SET,SA,RA=(25DCC,25DCF),ASIDSA=('JOBNA*'),A=TRACE,TD=(STD,REGS,25DCC,25DCF
 ),ID=OVLY,END
 
 And I would go with a MODE=INT  GTF trace, with SD=10M.
 The SLIP dump of the U4087 abend should contain the most recent 10MB of GTF 
 trace.
 
 The specific addresses in the SLIP are where the job has allocated the 
 storage that holds the pointer
 that got corrupted in each previous dump, so we're gambling on it being at 
 the same virtual address
 in each job next time we try to trap the corrupter.  Note the generic job 
 name in ASIDSA.
 
-jc-
 
 
  On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
 
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder
   
 [ snip ]
   
  I reviewed your PMR and dumps, and made some suggestions in the PMR.
   
Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY
  
   Thank you, Sir.  We'll run it by Change Control, and possibly try
   your suggestions tonight.
  
   -jc-
  
   
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Re: Upgrade to Enterprise COBOL v5.1

2014-10-09 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder
 
  [ snip ]
 
   I reviewed your PMR and dumps, and made some suggestions in the PMR.
 
 Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

Thank you, Sir.  We'll run it by Change Control, and possibly try your 
suggestions tonight.

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Re: Question on PER-SLIP and PRCNTLIM.

2014-10-09 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler
 
 Jim, Peter
 Thanks a lot. I understand it is not some precise measurement. I understand 
 this as a means to keep a
 badly written SLIP from negatively impacting the system.
 
 Out of curiosity: When SLIP SLIH code is active for a SLIP, what happens if 
 another SLIP is triggered
 on another CP? Is the system in a non-dispatchable state? Is SPIN SLIH code 
 serialized?
 --Peter Hunkeler

Found this note in the doc for SLIP SET parameters:

Between the instant matchlim is reached and when the trap is actually 
disabled, a small amount of time elapses. It is possible for the trap to match 
on another CPU during this small time interval. If this occurs, matchlim will 
actually be exceeded, with unexpected results. Therefore, use caution in 
setting a trap in a heavily used module as, for example, the dispatcher.

Not sure if this would apply generally, though.

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Re: Upgrade to Enterprise COBOL v5.1

2014-10-09 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Keith Smith
 
 Cut-n-past to the list maybe?

I s'pose:

something like  
SLIP
SET,SA,RA=(25DCC,25DCF),ASIDSA=('JOBNA*'),A=TRACE,TD=(STD,REGS,25DCC,25DCF
),ID=OVLY,END

And I would go with a MODE=INT  GTF trace, with SD=10M.
The SLIP dump of the U4087 abend should contain the most recent 10MB of 
GTF trace.

The specific addresses in the SLIP are where the job has allocated the storage 
that holds the pointer that got corrupted in each previous dump, so we're 
gambling on it being at the same virtual address in each job next time we try 
to trap the corrupter.  Note the generic job name in ASIDSA.

   -jc-

 
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   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder
  
[ snip ]
  
 I reviewed your PMR and dumps, and made some suggestions in the PMR.
  
   Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY
 
  Thank you, Sir.  We'll run it by Change Control, and possibly try your
  suggestions tonight.
 
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Re: Upgrade to Enterprise COBOL v5.1

2014-10-09 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Keith Smith
 
 Thank you! We are about to start looking at V5.1 for production and I am 
 accumulating a quick list for
 reference if we run into anything. We have had success so far with the 
 limited testing we have
 completed.

We've had only one problem with COBOL v5.1 in DEV/Test:  An XML converter 
program for a CICS Web Service, generated by RDz v9.0.1.2 and compiled with 
COBOL v5.1, does not run; instead returning error message IRZS Failed to 
retrieve the text of a Language Environment runtime message. Verify that the 
Language Environment runtime message module
for facility IRZ is installed in DFHRPL or STEPLIB.  The same source deck 
compiled with COBOL v4.2 runs fine.

RDz Support is currently working a PMR for that.

   -jc-

 
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   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Keith Smith
  
   Cut-n-past to the list maybe?
 
  I s'pose:
 
  something like
  SLIP
  SET,SA,RA=(25DCC,25DCF),ASIDSA=('JOBNA*'),A=TRACE,TD=(STD,REGS,25DCC,2
  5DCF
  ),ID=OVLY,END
 
  And I would go with a MODE=INT  GTF trace, with SD=10M.
  The SLIP dump of the U4087 abend should contain the most recent 10MB
  of GTF trace.
 
  The specific addresses in the SLIP are where the job has allocated the
  storage that holds the pointer that got corrupted in each previous
  dump, so we're gambling on it being at the same virtual address in
  each job next time we try to trap the corrupter.  Note the generic job name 
  in ASIDSA.
 
 -jc-
 
  
   On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
  
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder

  [ snip ]

   I reviewed your PMR and dumps, and made some suggestions in
 the
  PMR.

 Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY
   
Thank you, Sir.  We'll run it by Change Control, and possibly try
your suggestions tonight.
   
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Re: RACF sysplex communication

2014-10-09 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Ten Eyck
 
 How do I tell if a given LPAR has RACF sysplex communication enabled?

Console command RVARY LIST:

. . .
MEMBER smfid   IS SYSPLEX COMMUNICATIONS ENABLED  IN DATA SHARING

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Re: IODF for OSA Exp3 Port 1

2014-10-07 Thread Chase, John
Hmmm..  Are you perhaps confusing this Chris Mason with the late SNA expert 
of the same name?

-jc-

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Shane Ginnane
 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 8:40 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IODF for OSA Exp3 Port 1
 
 On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 08:15:56 -0400, Christopher Mason wrote:
 
 Been a little quiet of late Chris - fallen back into the rabbit hole ? ...  
 ;-)
 
 Shane ...
 
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Re: SMP/E Misleading Error Message

2014-10-03 Thread Chase, John
Having installed HCTG900 (CICS Transaction Gateway v9.0) into our CICS TS 5.1 
GLOBAL CSI according to the instructions in its Program Directory, I cannot 
explain how HCTG900 was missing from the Global zone's FMID list, but it wasn't 
there.  Adding HCTG900 to the Global zone's list allowed the RECEIVE ORDER job 
to complete successfully.

I've sent a RCF suggesting changes to both the message text of GIM69213S and 
its explanation in the SMP/E Messages, Codes, and Diagnosis manual to indicate 
that a FMID must appear in both the target zone and the global zone.

-jc-

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kathryn A. Pinto
 
 Hi John,
 
 Please list the GZONE entry from the global zone of SMP.CICSTS51.GLOBAL.CSI 
 to see if HCTG900 appears
 in the FMID subentry list.
 
 SET BDY(GLOBAL).
 LIST GZONE.
 
 You should get a result like:
 
 GLOBALUPGLEVEL   = SMP/E 36.59
 OPTIONS = GOPT
 ZONEINDEX = CTG900D  DLIB PINTO.RECORD.VSAM.CSI
CTG900T  TARGET   
 PINTO.RECORD.VSAM.CSI
 SREL= C150
   === FMID= HCTG900
 
 If HCTG900 is not in the FMID list, SMP/E will not consider it during RECEIVE 
 ORDER processing.
 
 There are times when the Global zone index list may identify a target zone 
 that is managed by a
 different global zone.  This might be the case for crosszone processing 
 purposes.   Since this target
 zone is managed by a different global zone, the FMIDs installed in this zone 
 may not appear in the
 Global zone FMID list for the current global zone that is being processed by 
 the RECEIVE ORDER
 command.  If the FMID is not in the GZONE FMID list, the PTFs obtained for 
 these FMIDs cannot be
 RECEIVEd into this global zone.   Therefore, RECEIVE ORDER will not attempt 
 to obtain PTFs for FMIDs
 that do not appear in the GZONE FMID list.
 
 Kathy Pinto
 SMP/E Development
 

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Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 Implemented?

2014-10-02 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills
 
 Well, I suppose it is possible that it is removing the *code* but not the 
 literal.
 
 Does COBOL 5.1 have a show me the pseudo-assembler listing option? That 
 would provide a better test
 IMHO.

MAP

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SMP/E Misleading Error Message

2014-10-02 Thread Chase, John
OK, puzzle me this:

  RECEIVE    
ORDER(   
  ORDERSERVER(ORDSRVR)   
  CONTENT(ALL)   
  FORTGTZONES(CTG900T)   
  CLIENT(CLNTINFO)   
  )      
DELETEPKG    
   . 
 
GIM69213S ** A PTF ORDER WAS NOT SENT TO THE SERVER BECAUSE NO PTFS WILL BE  
 APPLICABLE TO THE SPECIFIED ZONES. AT LEAST ONE FUNCTION SYSMOD 
 MUST BE FOUND IN THE SPECIFIED ZONES BEFORE A PTF ORDER CAN BE  
 SENT.   
GIM20501I    RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 12.

But a browse of the CICS Global CSI shows:

NAME TYPE  CSI DATA SET   
CICD510  DLIB  SMP.CICSTS51.DLIB.CSI  
CICT510  TARGET    SMP.CICS.TARGET.CSI    
CTG900D  DLIB  SMP.CTG900.DLIB.CSI    
CTG900T  TARGET    SMP.CTG900.TARGET.CSI  
GLOBAL   GLOBAL    SMP.CICSTS51.GLOBAL.CSI
** Bottom of data

And within CTG900T:

NAME    
HCTG600 
HCTG610 
HCTG700 
HCTG710 
HCTG720 
HCTG800 
HCTG810 
HCTG900  = CICS Transaction Gateway v9.0

Inside HCTG900:

Entry Type:  SYSMOD  Zone Name: CTG900T   
 Entry Name:  HCTG900 Zone Type: TARGET    
 Description: CICS Transaction Gateway for z/OS    
   
   Type:    FUNCTION  Status: APP  
   FMID:    HCTG900    JCLIN   
   Date/Time: 13.302   13:26:34   APP   REWORK   2012318   
   
   
   
       
SUP  HCTG600  HCTG610  HCTG700  HCTG710  HCTG720  HCTG800  HCTG810 
DEL  HCTG600  HCTG610  HCTG700  HCTG710  HCTG720  HCTG800  HCTG810 
   
FEATURE  ICTGB900  
REWORK   2012318   
MOD  CTGARM   CTGBATCH CTGGCONC CTGGTOKC CTGINIT  CTGRESBC CTGSACOC
 CTGSOCOC CTGSTDIC CTGSTLOC CTGSTPIC CTGSTQUC  
MAC  CTGSMFA   
DATA CTGACCPT CTGALLOC CTGAPPLY CTGDDDEF CTGISMKD CTGIZFS0 CTGIZFS1
 CTGMKDIR CTGRECV  CTGRECVE CTGSMF   CTGSMPSU CTGSTATS CTGSTDAT
   
SAMP CTGASIS  CTGCONF  CTGCONV  CTGENV   CTGJOB   CTGPROC  CTGSMFB 
 CTGSMFR  CTGSMFRD CTGSSLPW CTGSTAT1 CTGSTJOB CTGS01A1 CTGS02A1
 CTGS03A1 CTGS03A2 CTGS04A1 CTGS05NV CTGS08A1 CTGTESTL CTGTESTR
   
HFS  CTGT0194 CTGT0195 CTGT0443 CTGT0444 CTGT0449 CTGT0452 CTGT0453
 CTGT0454 CTGT0455 CTGT0456 CTGT0457 CTGT0458 CTGT0459 CTGT0460
 CTGT0461 CTGT0462 CTGT0463 CTGT0467 CTGT0469 CTGT0556 CTGT0557
 CTGT0562 CTGT0564 CTGT0595 CTGT0596 CTGT0597 CTGT0598 CTGT0599
 CTGT0600 CTGT0601 CTGT0602 CTGT0603 CTGT0604 CTGT0605 CTGT0606
 CTGT0607 CTGT0608 CTGT0612 CTGT0613 CTGT0616 CTGT0617 CTGT0618
 CTGT0619 CTGT0620 CTGT0621 CTGT0622 CTGT0625 CTGT0626 CTGT0639
 CTGT0641 CTGT0642 CTGT0643 CTGT0645 CTGT0647 CTGT0652 CTG00196
 CTG00197 CTG00199 CTG00200 CTG00201 CTG00204 CTG00470 CTG00471
 CTG00472 CTG00473 CTG00474 CTG00475 CTG00476 CTG00477 CTG00478
 CTG00479 CTG00480 CTG00481 CTG00482 CTG00483 CTG00485 CTG00486
 CTG00487 CTG00488 CTG00489 CTG00490 CTG00491 CTG00522 CTG00524
     CTG00526 CTG00528 CTG00530 CTG00533 CTG00535 CTG00537 CTG00540
 CTG00552 CTG00553 CTG00554 CTG00555 CTG00560 CTG00565 CTG00567
 CTG00568 CTG00570 CTG00584 CTG00586 CTG00587 CTG00588 CTG00589
 CTG00590 CTG00591 CTG00592 CTG00594 CTG00623 CTG00624 CTG00628
 CTG00629 CTG00638 CTG00644 CTG00651 CTG00653  

Note there aren't any PTFs in the CTG900T zone

Same bogus error with explicitly specified PTFs:

RECEIVE  
  ORDER( 

Enterprise COBOL v5.1 Implemented?

2014-10-01 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All,

Has anyone implemented COBOL 5.1 to the point that you have measured the 
promised performance improvements in application code over the same code 
compiled with earlier COBOL compilers?  Any hiccups or other glitches or 
gotchas you'd care to mention with COBOL v5.1?

TIA,

  -jc-

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Re: COBOL 5 compile options

2014-09-29 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
 
 On 9/26/2014 2:25 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
  Hey Steve,
 
  Your recommendation for defining binary data items and using
  TRUNC(OPT) does not make the following truncate with COBOL standard
  rules:
 
 I didn't say it did: only TRUNC(STD) is guaranteed to truncate with COBOL 
 standard rules. But the
 COBOL standard rules are not very useful, I think.
 
 Of course, in either case, you still have to know your data, and define your 
 fields appropriately. If
 I'm going to be moving 123451 to a binary field (or if a calculation could 
 possibly result in such a
 value), I need to plan for my target to be a fullword, pic s9(9).
 
 Programmers still need to be cognizant of the limits of the fields they work 
 with. Too many
 programmers, in my opinion, understand the boundaries of half word and full 
 word (and double word)
 field values.

???

Perhaps you meant to write Too few ...?

 As they say, common sense is not so common.

Indeed, in today's world common sense seems to be a (the?) prototypical 
oxymoron.

-jc-

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Re: SIS?

2014-09-26 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
 
 Well, I'll whine. Where the F,,, is Ibmlink SIS now?

On my ServiceLink page, it's between Product Cross Reference (PCR) and 
Service Request and Delivery (SRD), where it has been since Day One of the 
Webified IBMLink.

-jc-

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Re: SIS?

2014-09-26 Thread Chase, John
Try www.ibm.com/ibmlink

  -jc-

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:49 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: SIS?
 
 And, even now I know where to go, I can't see any way to get there starting 
 from any of the support
 pages from the menus on www.ibm.com, even after signing in.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
  Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:35 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: SIS?
 
  Thank you. For the bloody life of me, I could not find that page. I
  guess I will bookmark it, but I have bad luck bookmarking IBM pages :(
 
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-
  m...@listserv.ua.edu]
   On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen
   Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:27 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: Re: SIS?
  
   https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/servicelink/servicelink.wss?lc=encc
   =U
   S
  
  
  
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   On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
   Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:14 PM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: SIS?
  
  
  
   Well, I'll whine. Where the F,,, is Ibmlink SIS now?
  
  
  
   Dave Gibney
  
   Information Technology Services
  
   Washington State University
  
  
  
  
  
   
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Re: Help finding CICS Application Programming Primer

2014-09-25 Thread Chase, John
GIYF

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
 
 Dear Group,
 
 (Still waiting on the CICS-L Listserv)
 
Back when my hair was a younger color I used to write online CICS 
 programs.  I found a sample CICS
 program shown below.  I found the JCL for Batch compilation for COBOL 
 programs documented in the CICS
 Application Programming Guide (SC34-2844).  I was looking for more 
 information on building a test
 transaction for CICS.  From the infocenter I did find The general insurance 
 application under the
 samples.  Also I could find Batch compilation for COBOL programs documented 
 at the infocenter.
 
The CICS TS for z/OS V5 R1 Application Programming Reference (SC34-2845) 
 describes What you need to
 know to understand this manual on page vii.  It lists the CICS Application 
 Programming Primer.
 Q).   Where is the CICS Application Programming Primer?  I did not find it in 
 the bibliography.  I
 didn't find a link like that at the infocenter.  Just trying to find what 
 information is available and
 where.
 
 
Thanks,  Dave
 
 
 
   IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
   PROGRAM-ID.SAMCICS.
 *
   ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
   DATA DIVISION.
   WORKING-STORAGE DIVISION.
 *
   01  WS-INPUT.
   05 WS-TRAN-ID   PIC  X(4).
  05 WS-MESSAGE-I PIC  X(70).
 *
   01  WS-OUTPUT.
   05 WS-TEXT  PIC  X(8).
   05 WS-MESSAGE-O PIC  X(70).
 *
   01  WS-MSG-LENGTH   PIC  S9(4)  COMP.
 *
   PROCEDURE DIVISION.
 *
 
   MOVE  74TO   WS-MSG-LENGTH.
  *
   EXEC CICS RECEIVE
 INTO(WS-INPUT)
 LENGTH(WS-MSG-LENGTH)
   END-EXEC.
  *
   MOVE WS-MESSAGE-ITO  WS-MESSAGE-O.
   MOVE 'OUTPUT: '  TO  WS-TEXT.
   MOVE 78  TO  WS-MSG-LENGTH.
  *
   EXEC CICS SEND
 FROM(WS-OUTPUT)
 LENGTH(WS-MSG-LENGTH)
 ERASE
   END-EXEC.
 *
   EXEC CICS RETURN
   END-EXEC.
 *
   GOBACK.
 
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Re: SLIP IF Trap?

2014-09-23 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of nitz-...@gmx.net
[ snip ]
 
 So every sysprog should have enough dump reading skills to at least ascertain 
 when someone is giving
 them bullsh.. (Now I dream on.)

You are not alone.  :-)

-jc-

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Re: SLIP IF Trap?

2014-09-19 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Relson
 
 I also recommend MODE=HOME for PVTMOD=
 
 In general, you should try to use ASID and/or JOBNAME if you are going to use 
 MODE=HOME. This avoids
 unnecessary space-switch interrupts (and their processing). Without 
 ASID/JOBNAME, space-switches must
 be monitored for all address spaces.

The IF trap we were given specifies both JOBNAME and MODE=HOME.  Its purpose is 
to enable a SA trap for the same job, which leads to one more question:

The SA trap we were given for the same problem specifies RANGE(12R?+1C4,+1C7), 
but the example in the SLIP doc restates the register in the ending address as 
well.  Is it necessary to restate the register, like RANGE=(12R?+1C4,12R?+1C7)? 
Or will it work correctly as first cited?  (The SA trap also specifies JOBNAME 
but not MODE=HOME.)

The reason for the original IF trap question was that it didn't trip the 
first time we tried it, despite that there is no possible way for the 
instruction at the start address specified to be branched around.

   -jc-

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Re: SLIP IF Trap?

2014-09-19 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chase, John
 
 [ snip ]
 
 The SA trap we were given for the same problem specifies 
 RANGE(12R?+1C4,+1C7), but the example in the
 SLIP doc restates the register in the ending address as well.  Is it 
 necessary to restate the
 register, like RANGE=(12R?+1C4,12R?+1C7)? Or will it work correctly as first 
 cited?  [ snip ]

Never mind; I found the correct page in the manual.  Essentially, either way 
will work.

-jc-

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SLIP IF Trap?

2014-09-18 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All,

IBM Lvl 2 has given us a SLIP IF trap to set for a problem we currently have 
open, but so far the trap has not triggered.  The address range to monitor was 
specified as . . .,PVTMOD=(modname,C4),. . . .  The instruction immediately 
preceding that offset is a STORE, so the instruction at offset C4 necessarily 
gets executed (unless the STORE causes an interrupt, like 0C4) but the IF trap 
never trips.

SLIP doc says:

PVTMOD=(name[,start[, end]])

And If you specify only start, the range consists of that single address.

As you can see above, the spec we were given includes only the start address.  
Is that sufficient for an IF SLIP? Or do we need to specify a range equal to 
the size of the instruction we want to trap?

TIA,

-jc-

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Re: Emptiness (was: z/OS FTP client behavior)

2014-09-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz
 (Seymour J.)
 
 In 7227021730034872.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
 09/16/2014
at 06:20 PM, Paul Gilmartin
 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
 
 But empirically I discover:
 
 o If the first catenand is an empty instream data set, the remaining
 catenands are
   transmitted regardless.
 
 o If the first catenand is an empty UNIX file, the remaining catenands
 are not transmitted.
 
 o Otherwise, catenands following an empty catenand interior are
 transmitted.
 
 Can anyone supply a rationale for these behaviors?
 
 C2H5OH?

C2H5COOH?

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Re: MVS

2014-09-16 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane
 
 On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:25:10 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
 
 Can't we forget MVS (that's *so* 20th Century), and talk instead about
 z/OS, which is the topic of the Redbook (see URL)?
 
 Nope.
 Up to, and including, the (new, you-beaut) 1.12 Info Centre, it was simply 
 MVS for the important
 manuals.
 Now I see z/OS MVS - including 2.1.
 
 Some habits seem to die hard.

z/OS is a package.  MVS is just an operating system that's included in z/OS.

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Re: Bizarre maybe-FTP problem

2014-09-15 Thread Chase, John
Been using Bluezone FTP for more than a decade, and have never encountered that 
sort of error.

-jc-

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Phil Smith
 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:55 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Bizarre maybe-FTP problem
 
 Actually it wasn't me doing the upload, and now I'm told BlueZone was the 
 emulator used, using FTP. So
 maybe this is a BZ buglet.
 
 From: Phil Smith
 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:52 PM
 To: ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Bizarre maybe-FTP problem
 
 After uploading some barely changed source files via FTP to z/OS 1.12 today, 
 I got a ton of assembler
 errors.
 
 Some research revealed that the first line of a macro read:
 STOR membername
 (where membername was the name of the member, doh).
 
 That isn't what it read on the PC side, and looks suspiciously like an FTP 
 command somehow became part
 of the data! Anyone ever seen anything like that? I know it sounds 
 impossible.
 
 Re-FTPing fixed it. But I dislike a mystery like this, especially on a 
 Monday...
 
 ...phsiii
 
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Re: SW XCEL and IBMLINK

2014-09-12 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B.
 
 Our shop was without a Software Xcel contract for a few months due to a 
 contract mix-up. As of this
 morning, we have it back.
 
 My question is what changed in the interim?
 
 I used to be able to initiate TRACK, SIS, SR/PMR, etc. all from one webpage. 
 I no longer see that
 webpage when I login.
 
 Any ideas/suggestions as to what happened? Is there a new webpage I am not 
 aware of?

When mine breaks, I just type in www.ibm.com/ibmlink and it redirects either 
to the sign-in page or the ServiceLink page, depending on the cookie.

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Re: Is there a CPU cost to using key9 storage while running with key8

2014-08-29 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Price
 
 What hardware are you on?
 
 I ask because a z196 has some high CPU costs for certain PSW Key-related 
 instructions.
 
 For example, SPKA (Set PSW Key from Address) on a z196 shows up in CICS CPU 
 figures because it stalls
 the pipeline when changing PSW keys between key 8 and key 9 -- or even when 
 it doesn't change keys
 e.g. it is just 'going' from key 8 to key 8!
 
 SPKA may be executed in CICS more than you think (consider User Exits -- 
 GLUEs and TRUEs -- some of
 which may have been inserted by your monitoring software).

An interesting observation.  I'd have thought that CICS (in particular), in an 
early stage of startup when it runs authorized, would set the 
Storage-Protection-Override Control (bit 39 of CR0) if STGPROT=YES was 
specified as a DFHSIT parm.  See z/Architecture Principles of Operation, 10th 
Edition, at page 3-12 for details of Storage-Protection-Override Control.

This would seem to obviate any need for CICS, post-initialization when running 
unauthorized, to issue SPKA or similar key-related instructions.

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Re: Is there a CPU cost to using key9 storage while running with key8

2014-08-29 Thread Chase, John
Sorry:  ... key-related instructions simply to access key9 storage.

  -jc-

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 Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 7:55 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Is there a CPU cost to using key9 storage while running with key8
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Price
 
  What hardware are you on?
 
  I ask because a z196 has some high CPU costs for certain PSW Key-related 
  instructions.
 
  For example, SPKA (Set PSW Key from Address) on a z196 shows up in
  CICS CPU figures because it stalls the pipeline when changing PSW keys
  between key 8 and key 9 -- or even when it doesn't change keys e.g. it is 
  just 'going' from key 8 to
 key 8!
 
  SPKA may be executed in CICS more than you think (consider User Exits
  -- GLUEs and TRUEs -- some of which may have been inserted by your 
  monitoring software).
 
 An interesting observation.  I'd have thought that CICS (in particular), in 
 an early stage of startup
 when it runs authorized, would set the Storage-Protection-Override Control 
 (bit 39 of CR0) if
 STGPROT=YES was specified as a DFHSIT parm.  See z/Architecture Principles of 
 Operation, 10th Edition,
 at page 3-12 for details of Storage-Protection-Override Control.
 
 This would seem to obviate any need for CICS, post-initialization when 
 running unauthorized, to issue
 SPKA or similar key-related instructions.
 
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Re: Possible method to post large files, for example and such

2014-08-21 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jantje.
 
 [ snip ]
 
 My company (and I guess many others) blocks access to all such file-sharing 
 services, unfortunately.
 
 Maybe you could consider using attachments to the posts?

I believe the listserv is configured to discard attachments before relaying 
posts.

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Re: revisiting the documentation dilemma

2014-08-19 Thread Chase, John
Not a flame, but I've finally gotten used to the InfoCenter delivery.  But soon 
I'll be forced to accustom to the Knowledge Center delivery.  The 
presentation is somewhat like the InfoCenter, but finding stuff initially is a 
bit more challenging.  For example, to find the doc for the COBOL compilers, 
one must look under the Rational navigation entry.

-jc-

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
 Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 2:31 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: revisiting the documentation dilemma
 
 I haven't read the rest of the thread yet. Let the flames possibly roar, but 
 Softcopy Librarian still
 worked for me to download z/OS 2.1. Unforutantely, is only .pdf's. But it did 
 bring me shelves and the
 Softcopy Reader: Shelf Organizer allows me to find what I want when I need it.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:31 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: revisiting the documentation dilemma
 
  Correct, DVDs are no longer being produced.  I forget what version of
  z/OS they did that.  z/OS V1.13 may be the last - but I am not sure.
 
  I would recommend getting MOZILLA browser and install the addin -
  DOWNTHEMALL.
 
  It is very fast to down load anything from the web.  I use it to
  download all of the IBM Manuals I want.  I think I downloaded 678 PDFs
  from IBM in about 10 mins maybe 20 mins.
 
 
  Lizette
 
 
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  m...@listserv.ua.edu]
   On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex
   Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:25 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: revisiting the documentation dilemma
  
   Hi list,
  
   I've been meandering through the archives and saw several threads
   regarding documentation changes that IBM has been implementing, with
   knowledge centers et al.  So my question is a rather basic one.  We
   just upgraded to 1.13 a couple months ago.  Do the documentation
   DVDs no
  longer exist even in softcopy form?
   On my old 1.11 system I was able to download and install a DVD image
   and have the documentation library locally on my PC.  If I want to
   have a similar functionality with my 1.13 documentation do I need to
   download each manual I want individually and build my own library?
   I spent a couple hours yesterday on IBM's web site(s) and it appears
   that this is my only option.  Could somebody please confirm whether
   this is correct or if there is someplace where I could do a mass
   download of
  books please point me to it.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Rex
  
 
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Re: more about True North integrated circuits

2014-08-18 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing
 
 On 08/16/2014 06:14 AM, Mike Stayton wrote:
  and also
 
  http://www.research.ibm.com/articles/brain-chip.shtml
 
  Mike Stayton
 
 
 
 An interesting development, but if technology ever progresses to the point 
 where we remotely approach
 the cognitive power of the human brain we would need to exercise EXTREME 
 caution, as humans can
 learn and be certain of so many things that simply aren't true including 
 mutually impossible
 facts, be blind to their own ignorance, come to irrational, destructive 
 conclusions, and have mental
 breakdowns.  There is a reason that the computers that we rely on have been 
 designed around
 deterministic architectures.  Science fiction has repeatedly dealt with the 
 dangers of placing
 cognitive machines in control.  I particularly remember one original Star 
 Trek episode (The Ultimate
 Computer) where such a  cognitive computer (M-5) went berserk because its 
 designer patterned its
 memory engrams on his own and he himself turned out to be mentally unstable.

A similar virus affected the HAL 9000 computer in Clarke's _2001: A Space 
Odyssey_.

 Just image the extreme damage potential of an ultra-fast, ultra-efficient 
 cognitive machine in control
 of some critical process or decisions if it were patterned on the memory 
 engrams of a Sarah Palin.

... or Adolf Hitler, or Josef Stalin, or Barack Obama, or Isaac Newton, or 
Albert Einstein, or Thomas Jefferson, or Bobby Fischer, or pick your poison.

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Default TSO Region Size?

2014-08-15 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All,

Many of our TSO users have a 4MB default TSO Region size (Size === 4096 
field on the logon panel), which nowadays is a relic of the 1970s, pretty 
much unusable for many utilities like Fault Analyzer, etc.  I'm looking for 
suggestions on what should be a reasonable and realistic default Size value for 
today's world.  From past experiments I've found that 96M is about the 
minimum for anybody who wants to run Java programs (indeed, I cannot run java 
-version in less than 80M), so I'm leaning toward a default of 128M and a 
MAXSIZE of 2G in the RACF TSO segment.

Comments?  Suggestions?  Caveats?

TIA,

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Re: Happy New Year

2014-08-14 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
 
 [ snip ]
 
 Sigh... I can't win or lose... ;-)
 
 I could just toss up a coin (rare collectable or damaged pick-up): Head - you 
 win. Tail - I lose. ;-)

You can't win.  You can't break even.  You can't even quit the game. 
(Ginsberg's Theorem)

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Re: INITILAIZE COST

2014-08-12 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg
 
 At 20:01 -0700 on 08/11/2014, Duffy Nightingale, SS wrote about Re:
 INITILAIZE COST:
 
 Heavy emphasis on that last sentence.   Just had a customer who
 didn't keep track of the number of entries in his COBOL table while
 adding new ones. Ended up adding entries way beyond the end of his
 table leading to altering the fields following the table to wrong
 values leading to very strange scary looking dumps that seemed to point
 to big problems in unsupported code!  But, nope, simple, his table got
 bigger than the definition.
 
 I thought the code spotted an attempt to go beyond the end of the table by 
 exceeding the OCCURS value
 or am I thinking of PL/I which would catch this error?

Depends on compile-time option SSRANGE / NOSSRANGE.

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SS6SG3_5.1.0/com.ibm.cobol511.ent.doc/custom/igycch257.html?lang=en

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Re: IBM Announcements

2014-08-12 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B.
 
 Can anyone post a good link for IBM Announcements?
 
 I have been through a couple of PCs in the last four months and have lost 
 admin privileges (and
 FIREFOX) in the process. For now, I only have IE and none of my old 
 favorites. One of those was the
 requested link. Help anyone?  :)

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss?request_locale=en

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Re: Rational Development and Test (RDT) aka z/OS on a PC

2014-08-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 
 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:04:21 -0500, Norbert Friemel wrote:
 
 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:45:36 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote:
 
 //SYSUT2   DD DISP=(,KEEP),DSN=SYS1.SIEALNKE.N,DSNTYPE=LIBRARY,
 // SPACE=(TRK,(4000,0,0)),UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=TGT001
 //SYSINDD  *
  COPY INDD=SYSUT1,OUTDD=SYSUT2
 
 This JCL results in IEBCOPY 'unloading' SYS1.SIEALNKE into arecfm=VS data 
 set (but ending with RC=0)
 ...
 
 When I fully specify the output DCB, the copy operation works. ...
 
 It's not specific to z1090. Change the SPACE-Paramter from 
 SPACE=(TRK,(4000,0,0)) to
 SPACE=(TRK,(4000,0,1)).
 
 Somewhat irritatingly, IEBCOPY exhibits this behavior even when I specify 
 such as:
 
 SPACE=(TRK,(4000,0)),DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
 
 I think I should get a syntax error, rather, when a utility attempts to 
 create a PS data set when
 DSNTYPE=LIBRARY has been specified.  (Specifying DSORG=PO likewise avoids the 
 problem.)

This behavior should be APAR-able, IMO.

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HIPER PTF SUP'd by non-HIPER?

2014-08-11 Thread Chase, John
It seems logical to me that a PTF which supersedes a HIPER PTF should itself be 
ASSIGNed the HIPER SOURCEID flag, but in one current instance (UI19849, which 
supersedes UI18382 whose APAR is flagged HIPER and DATALOSS) the superseding 
PTF is not flagged HIPER.

Is that perhaps an oversight by the team that created UI19849?  It is presumed 
that the fix in UI18382 is present in UI19849.

TIA,

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Re: Rational Development and Test (RDT) aka z/OS on a PC

2014-08-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Norbert Friemel
 
 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:24:00 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:04:21 -0500, Norbert Friemel wrote:
 
 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:45:36 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote:
 
 //SYSUT2   DD DISP=(,KEEP),DSN=SYS1.SIEALNKE.N,DSNTYPE=LIBRARY,
 // SPACE=(TRK,(4000,0,0)),UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=TGT001
 //SYSINDD  *
  COPY INDD=SYSUT1,OUTDD=SYSUT2
 
 This JCL results in IEBCOPY 'unloading' SYS1.SIEALNKE into arecfm=VS data 
 set (but ending with
 RC=0) ...
 
 When I fully specify the output DCB, the copy operation works. ...
 
 It's not specific to z1090. Change the SPACE-Paramter from 
 SPACE=(TRK,(4000,0,0)) to
 SPACE=(TRK,(4000,0,1)).
 
 Somewhat irritatingly, IEBCOPY exhibits this behavior even when I specify 
 such as:
 
 SPACE=(TRK,(4000,0)),DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
 
 I think I should get a syntax error, rather, when a utility attempts to
 create a PS data set when DSNTYPE=LIBRARY has been specified.
 (Specifying DSORG=PO likewise avoids the problem.)
 
 
 The required parameters are in DFSMS Using Data Sets: 
 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
 bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2d4a0/3.8.5
 The following parameters are both required to allocate a PDSE:
 - Specify DIR space (greater than zero) or DSORG=PO (partitioned 
 organization) in the JCL, in the
 DYNALLOC macro, in the data class, or in the TSO ALLOCATE command.
 - Specify DSNTYPE=LIBRARY in the JCL, in the data class, in the TSO ALLOCATE 
 command, using the LIKE
 keyword, or as the installation default specified in SYS1.PARMLIB.

Hmmm  I guess that makes the behavior non-APAR-able after all.

 There's a Guideline that says the allocation fails without DIR space:
 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2d4a0/3.8.4  
 That's not the case in z/OS
 1.13

Or not.

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Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-04 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg
 
 At 09:30 -0400 on 08/03/2014, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about
 Re: LE APAR PM99349:
 
 In 2830304844335286.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu, on
 08/03/2014
 at 06:52 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au said:
 
 Security through obfuscation has never worked.
 Might appear to for a while,
 
 As long as it works long enough to develop a fix and get it installed,
 it's worth doing.
 
 That assumes that once a problem is spotted that the creation of the fix is 
 started and that the fix
 actually gets distributed and installed. Too many times, since the problem 
 description is not revealed
 the creation of a fix is not regarded as necessary. IOW: By not saying what 
 the problem is (or even
 that there is a problem) there is a tendency to not see a need to actually 
 fix it.

Best I can tell, the SECINT SOURCEID is available only via the SECINT.ASSIGNS 
file, available only through the Security Portal.  I've never seen a SECINT PTF 
in any RECEIVE ORDER with CONTENT(RECOMMENDED) (but that doesn't mean there 
aren't any).  Thus, it appears that one is expected to subscribe to the 
Security Portal and to its notification process to learn when a 
security/integrity problem has been identified and fixed.

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LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-01 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All,

One newly-available PTF for LE, UI18450, fixes APAR PM99349, but a search for 
PM99349 on IBMLink fails with a not found error.  Am I to ass.u.me that 
it's a security / integrity APAR and just apply the PTF?

TIA,

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Re: LE APAR PM99349

2014-08-01 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dennis Trojak
 
 Yes it is a security/integrity APAR. If you subscribe to the Security Portal 
 you can review it.
 Description: This issue may pertain to users of Language Environment for z/OS 
 with FMID HLE7770,
 HLE7780 and HLE7790.

Thanks.  I had not noticed those details before; normally just download the 
latest SECINT assigns and holddata.

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RECEIVE ORDER server problems?

2014-08-01 Thread Chase, John
Anybody else having long delay times on SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER?  I have a job for 
one PTF that's been waiting 30 minutes so far:

GIM693ISMP/E HAS BEEN WAITING 15 MINUTES FOR ORDER ORDn. SMP/E WILL 
WAIT A MAXIMUM OF 120 MINUTES.
GIM693ISMP/E HAS BEEN WAITING 30 MINUTES FOR ORDER ORDn. SMP/E WILL 
WAIT A MAXIMUM OF 120 MINUTES.

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