Re: Dasd Consumption Report

2014-11-12 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
We run DCOLLECT, process it with MXG and store the relevant variables in a SAS 
database.
You have DCOLLECT, you can use different tools to process and store the info.

Kees.

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Subject: Dasd Consumption Report

Hi Group,

We have three different Storage Boxes in our Data Center. I would like to 
understand the practice or procedure that you are following in your Shop to 
capture everyday Dasd Consumption report.(Like how much is used or How much is 
free), Based on the Boxes.

Are there any ways(Tools or any Product) to generate a report for this 
requirement ?

Jake

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Re: Big data - Google wants *all* of you

2014-11-12 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
This company more and more looks like the old science fiction books, where one 
computer controls the whole world to provide the best for humanity, whether 
humanity agrees or not.

Kees.

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 Indeed. If a hospital uploads my genome code, will it be as anonymous, or 
 will I be spammed (real medicine, quackery medicine, experimental medicine, 
 etc) on what I have in my genome code?
Let's hope that I could veto having my personal data (mis)used that way! Do we 
even get told if a doctor uploads such data?

 But there is not a word on how safe the stored data it will be! (cr)apple 
 cloud has been cracked, google cloud is next.
Exactly.

Barbara

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Re: Processing SMF using Java - new product

2014-11-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
2 things that pop up in mind:
- will it run on zIIP, so it will reduce SMF processing costs?
- what can I use it for? Will its functionality be comparable to MXG?

Kees.

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I have been working on a Java API for processing SMF data, based on experience 
gained developing EasySMF.

Some key features are:

* Methods convert the different SMF fields to Java datatypes.
* Times representing a duration e.g. CPU time, connect time are converted to 
floating point values expressed in seconds from the multitude of different 
units that you find in SMF.
* Dates and times of day are converted to Joda-Time 
http://www.joda.org/joda-time/ classes, which makes manipulation of time 
zones etc. possible.
* SMF record classes provide functions to return the SMF subsections.

For testing purposes it currently covers type 30 and most RMF records.

This will become a new product from Black Hill Software.

I am looking for people interested in trying it out and making comments on 
usability, performance, any problems etc. You can read details, see some sample 
programs and download the current beta here:
http://www.blackhillsoftware.com/news/2014/11/04/processing-smf-using-java/

Please feel free to download it and try it, or sign up to the mailing list if 
you want to receive updates about the progress.

I welcome any feedback and comments either directly, or in the comments area of 
the website.

Thanks

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Re: Exposing USS Messages to z/OS SYSLOG

2014-11-05 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Dave,

We can get /dev/operlog working, is the new in 2.1? 
/dev/syslog seems to be accepted, but does not go to syslog. Is this a valid 
device?

Kees.

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Not exactly sure, but check out the manual for syslog.conf   there are specific 
special files called /dev/operlog and /dev/console

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I have requirement of exposing Mainframe USS messages appearing in WAS Started 
tasks on z/OS (For eg. BBOO0221W ) to Mainframe SYSLOG.

Is there any way to achieve this ?

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Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-27 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
The 30% rule is a performance rule, not a capacity rule: 
1. you should have enough space to accommodate a large page-out burst, when I 
occurs. 
2. you should not fill this space over 30% to keep good performance on your 
page-outs. Although I think this rule is more important in a constantly paging 
system and less important for a one time page-out burst.

Kees.


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Subject: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

As long as he doesn't exceed 30% usage, he should be fine.  Maybe automatically 
issue the command hourly to find the peak?

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:
 Just because you are not paging due to lots of real/flash isn't a reason to 
 not have sufficient page datasets in case you need them for dumping of some 
 runaway memory gobbler.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:38 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

 Peter Hunkeler wrote:

 It seems, we've got enough real storage and enough Flash Memory. 
 There is
 hardly any paging. We've got two local page data sets mainly because 
 VIO paging will not go to Flash Memory.

 We're starting to see local page data set usage at ~30%. I conclude 
 that this
 must be VIO data being paged out.

 What let you arrive at that conclusion? Just curious if you don't mind 
 please.


 I'm not very fluent in using neither RMF, nor MAINVIEW. I'd like to 
 find out
 which AS is causing this AUX usage. Not that I'd currently think, 
 we're in touble. Just curious. Does anyone have some hints where to start?

 Do you want 'snapshot' (with RMF II), interactive monitoring (RMF 
 III) or some post-processing? Depending on what you want to do, you 
 can use RMF batch using SMF records, RMF II or RMF III or RMF Spreadsheet 
 Reporter.

 (Or you can go Martin Packer's entertaining way... :-D )


 Groete / Greetings
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Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-27 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Rereading your answer, I wonder what it is that 'we should not get anywhere 
near'? 

Kees.

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We should throw the 30% rule in the bin IM(NS)HO. Only relates to Continuous 
Slot Allocation Algorithm break down and we shouldn't get anywhere near it; 
The economics of memory (and a fortiori with Flash) make this near obsolete.

Cheers, Martin

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Date:   27/10/2014 08:11
Subject:Re: What address space is using AUX slots?
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The 30% rule is a performance rule, not a capacity rule: 
1. you should have enough space to accommodate a large page-out burst, when I 
occurs. 
2. you should not fill this space over 30% to keep good performance on your 
page-outs. Although I think this rule is more important in a constantly paging 
system and less important for a one time page-out burst.

Kees.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Mike Schwab
Sent: 25 October, 2014 0:08
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

As long as he doesn't exceed 30% usage, he should be fine.  Maybe automatically 
issue the command hourly to find the peak?

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:
 Just because you are not paging due to lots of real/flash isn't a 
 reason
to not have sufficient page datasets in case you need them for dumping of some 
runaway memory gobbler.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:38 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

 Peter Hunkeler wrote:

 It seems, we've got enough real storage and enough Flash Memory. 
 There is
 hardly any paging. We've got two local page data sets mainly because 
 VIO paging will not go to Flash Memory.

 We're starting to see local page data set usage at ~30%. I conclude 
 that this
 must be VIO data being paged out.

 What let you arrive at that conclusion? Just curious if you don't 
 mind
please.


 I'm not very fluent in using neither RMF, nor MAINVIEW. I'd like to 
 find out
 which AS is causing this AUX usage. Not that I'd currently think, 
 we're in touble. Just curious. Does anyone have some hints where to
start?

 Do you want 'snapshot' (with RMF II), interactive monitoring (RMF
 III) or some post-processing? Depending on what you want to do, you 
 can use RMF batch using SMF records, RMF II or RMF III or RMF
Spreadsheet Reporter.

 (Or you can go Martin Packer's entertaining way... :-D )


 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
We don't have Flash, so I have no experience there, but you have history 
available. Maybe online in Mainview for some period, if Mainview has been 
configured so. Otherwise in the RMF records (produced by CMF).

Kees.

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 Start it, select 'Z', select '1', enter 'JSTOR' and you will see the ASM Slot 
 usage under the column Avg Slots, next to it are Avg Vio and Avg NVio. 

Thanks! Found it. I was starting with PGDSTAT. 

The JSTOR view doesn't tell which AUX slots are Flash and which are page DS 
slots. It's the sum of both. 
To my surprise, I can't see any job using VIO AUX slots. My previous assumption 
was wrong, it seems.

What are reasons for SRM/AUX to page out to DASD instead of Flash, when Flash 
usage is low (below 10%)? I guess, none,are there?

So, my current assumption is that we have had some peak on storage usage some 
time back which caused massive page out to Flash which also caused migration 
from Flash to AUX. Does this sound reasonable?

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Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
If you have mainview, try:
F pasname,*asm,total

For more details: F pasname,*HELP ASM

Kees.


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Of Peter Hunkeler
Sent: 23 October, 2014 8:44
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: What address space is using AUX slots?

It seems, we've got enough real storage and enough Flash Memory. There is 
hardly any paging. We've got two local page data sets mainly because VIO paging 
will not go to Flash Memory.



We're starting to see local page data set usage at ~30%. I conclude that this 
must be VIO data being paged out.


I'm not very fluent in using neither RMF, nor MAINVIEW. I'd like to find out 
which AS is causing this AUX usage. Not that I'd currently think, we're in 
touble. Just curious. Does anyone have some hints where to start?

 

--
Peter Hunkeler

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Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

2014-10-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
This is a console command, use SDSF: 
/F ...

Do you have access to the mainview ispf interface? 
Start it, select 'Z', select '1', enter 'JSTOR' and you will see the ASM Slot 
usage under the column Avg Slots, next to it are Avg Vio and Avg NVio. 
Put 'SO D' after command, put your cursor on the Avg Slots column, press Enter 
and the display will be sorted on Asm Slot usage

Kees.

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Of Peter Hunkeler
Sent: 23 October, 2014 13:25
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Subject: AW: Re: What address space is using AUX slots?

 If you have mainview, try:  F pasname,*asm,total  For more details: 
 F pasname,*HELP ASM

We do have MAINVIEW, but I'm just a beginner in finding my way around, so 
please bear with me. Where would I enter these commands? MAINVIEW ISPF rejects 
F

--Peter Hunkeler


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Re: Question on WRITE statements in ACS and Automation

2014-10-21 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
David,

I think the problem with the ACS WRITE statements is, that the output does not 
travel the route that can be intercepted by your solution. It goes directly to 
the JES2 Message file of the job. I have been looking too for a way to collect 
these message and have them emailed to me, but AFAIK, it is not possible. Any 
change in this would be welcome.

Kees.

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Hi Lizette,

Just cleaning up some mails, and I came across this.

There is a message revision table in Netview that could be used. I have used it 
in a temporary way when I issue a command from system automation that only 
generates ouput in a joblog - in my case the revision table is:

UPON ( JOBNAME = 'DFSKERN' )
  REVISE(Y AUTOMATE)   

Then I activate a message table that triggers an exec to write each message it 
sees from the jobname to a global variable stem (incrementing an index), and 
asynchronously pick up the output later. 

Of course in your case, the message table processing could be much simpler, and 
permanent (I only do the set-up to retrieve the data I have triggered, and undo 
it afterwards).

Best regards, 
David Tidy 
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Subject: Question on WRITE statements in ACS and Automation

I have a friend who is at z/OS V1.13

He asked me an  interesting question that I am thinking of opening a Share
requirement on.  Let me know what you think

When you create ACS code you can put WRITE statements into the process for
clarification.  Is it possible to capture those WRITEs in an automation
product, OPS/MVS, AFOPER, Tivoli, and action the message?

If a user is creating a dataset and using an invalid DSN, I could put a
write statement in the code that says 

WRITE MYACS001I Invalid DSN for the storage group requested.  

Then if it went to SYSLOG I could capture it and send an email to the
storage team for review. 

Or if my user was requesting way to much space for a specify storage pool, I
could do something similar.


So, it would be nice, in my opinion, to be able to create an event
notification that an automation tool could capture and then perform some
action (i.e. email the storage team)

I understand that I can redirect to a different pool and provide other
actions within ACS code.

But since a lot of logging goes directly to the DFHSM logs or SYSOUT DDs, I
have to have someone manually review to identify what is going on.


Another example, there is an ARC0019I message that indicates the CELLS are
too small for DFHSM.  It is only in the SYSOUT DDs.  I will be opening a
SHARE requirement to be able to redirect these types of messages to SYSLOG
so that an automation tool can send a notification to the storage team.



The only way I see of doing it is to filter the output of the task to find
the ACS code WRITE statements or filter the DFHSM SYSOUT DDs.


Any thoughts are welcome.  And if you have any other messages or functions
in DFHSM that might need redirection, let me know.

Thanks

Lizette

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Re: Issue with TS3500 Tape Library.

2014-10-16 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Supposing they have been configured and defined correctly to the system(s).

Kees.

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Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 13:02
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Subject: Re: Issue with TS3500 Tape Library.

If you have hardware support and they have a problem with diagnosis, then you 
need to get them to work harder.

If necessary, they should contact IBM hardware support (they should pay any 
costs, not you) on this issue.

Sometimes it is firmware  or microcode, sometimes the computers in the drives 
need to be re-taught their job.  My IBM CEs had to do this multiple times on my 
drives.

If you do not have CBR messages in SYSLOG and there are no messages on the log 
for the TS3500s, then there is something very wrong with the hardware.

Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Arun Prasad Chinnadurai
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:46 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Issue with TS3500 Tape Library.
 
 Hi Lizette,
 
 We do have a hardware support.
 Even they couldn't figure out the issue :(
 
 Thanks,
 Arun Chinnadurai
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:06 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Issue with TS3500 Tape Library.
 
 Do you have hardware support?  If so, I would have them come onsite 
 and
see if
 the robot needs to be taught
 
 Lizette
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Arun Prasad 
  Chinnadurai
  Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:44 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Issue with TS3500 Tape Library.
 
  Greetings to all  !
 
  On our site we have installed a new TS3500 tape library. When we 
  submit a
 backup
  job, the robot inside the library is not picking up the tape using 
  the
 barcodes (As of
  now, we are manually moving the tapes to the drive). Also the drive 
  is not
 ejecting
  the tape out(moving it to empty slot) after a successful read/write
 operation.
 
  What could be the problem here ?
 
  FYKI : We are using 3592 JB tapes and the VOLSER reporting on the 
  tape
 library is
  configured to 6 digits. All the tapes are initialized with six digit
 VOLSER.
 
 
  Thanks,
  Arun Chinnadurai
 

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WLM Managed Initiators, enhanced management.

2014-10-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Hello group,

I have implemented WLM Managed Initiators years ago and I found it a problem, 
that WLM stops managing batch when I need it most: when all systems are (near) 
full.

Searching for options to do some dynamic management myself, I found this 
beautiful presentation: WLM Functions for Dynamic Workload Routing, from 11 Mar 
2014 Session 15217, of course again by Horst Sinram.
https://www.google.nl/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=6ved=0CEIQFjAFurl=https%3A%2F%2Fshare.confex.com%2Fshare%2F122%2Fwebprogram%2FHandout%2FSession15217%2FS15217_WLM_RouteMe.pdfei=7as3VMqUHsflaPHcgbgDusg=AFQjCNEfToekVYDhUw5duIoydnlLgHQRAQsig2=khCcGAcoFrQfagXfNSNAewbvm=bv.76943099,d.d2scad=rjt

It describes exactly what I want WLM to do when managing batch in full systems.

Is there any chance that WLM Managed Initiators will be enhanced with this 
function? Or should the enhancement be to JES2?
Has anybody actually implemented this or a similar enhancement to WLM managed 
initiators? Or JES2?

Thanks,
Kees.


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Re: Tape Error

2014-10-03 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Check this:
http://ibmmainframes.com/about25902.html

Kees.

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Subject: Tape Error

Hi All,

I am receiving the below error while running my daily backup

09.08.33 JOB02811  IEC215I
714-0C,IFG0200Z,ZV1QB3$,STEP01,TAPE1,0680,ZV1QB3,BACKUP.INC.ZVX3D2
 09.08.33 JOB02811  IOS000I 0680,0A,IOE,27,0600,,**,ZV1QB3,ZV1QB3$  686
686  0A4410D050405050 0027FF00 0303023530335490
4304E80162C71310
686  WRITE ERROR DETECTED
 09.08.33 JOB02811  IOS000I 0680,0A,IOE,02,0600,,**,ZV1QB3,ZV1QB3$  687
687  0A4410D050405050 0002FF00 0303023530335490
4304E80162C71310
687  WRITE ERROR DETECTED
 09.08.33 JOB02811  IEC147I
613-08,IFG0194K,ZV1QB3$,STEP01,TAPE1,0680,ZV1QB3,BACKUP.INC.ZVX3D2

Explanation for 714-0C says :

0C

If opened for output processing, an I/O error occurred writing a tape mark 
during processing of a CLOSE macro instruction. If opened for input processing, 
a previous positioning error has been detected in volume disposition processing 
during processing of a CLOSE macro instruction.
A
possible cause is that ERP detected a permanent error and the tape position was 
unknown.


ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK 0ADR006I 
(001)-STEND(01), 2014.274 23:04:30 EXECUTION BEGINS
0ADR347E (001)-BSWT (01), PERMANENT I/O ERROR ON DDNAME TAPE1,ZV1QB3$
,STEP01  ,0680,T,TAPE1   ,WRITE ,DATA CHECK
  ,012961,BSAM 0ADR324E (001)-DDTFP(02), THE 
VOLUME/DATA SET SPECIFIED BY DDNAME TAPE1 HAS BECOME UNUSABLE 0ADR049E 
(001)-STEND(01), 2014.275 09:08:33 DFSMSDSS FUNCTION TASK ABEND RECOVERY 
ROUTINE WAS ENTERED. SYSTEM ABEND CODE=0714 REASON
  CODE=000C
0ADR324E (001)-DDTFP(02), THE VOLUME/DATA SET SPECIFIED BY DDNAME TAPE1 HAS 
BECOME UNUSABLE

The backup ran fine for first 11 volume but it failed in 12th step with the 
above error message.

 80 //DASD12   EXEC BACKUP,VOL=ZVX3D2,TAPE=ZV1QB3,LBL=12
81 ++BACKUP   PROC
82 ++STEP01   EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
83 ++SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
84 ++DASD1DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=VOL,DISP=SHR
   IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=ZVX3D2,DISP=SHR
85 ++TAPE1DD UNIT=680,VOL=(,RETAIN,SER=TAPE),DISP=(NEW,KEEP),
   ++DSNAME=BACKUP.INC.VOL,LABEL=(LBL,SL)
   IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL -
UNIT=680,VOL=(,RETAIN,SER=ZV1QB3),DISP=(NEW,KEEP),DSNAME=BACKUP.INC.ZVX3D2,
   LABEL=(12,SL)
86 ++SYSINDD DSN=SYS1.ZOS1.CNTL(INPUT),DISP=SHR


I am unable to interpret the IOS message, but Most likely it could be a tape 
error. Could someone throw light on the above.


Z/OS : 1.13

Peter

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Re: abend code BB7 ?

2014-09-08 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Just out of curiosity I let Google play with the abend and as usual it found a 
couple of answers. Maybe something is applicable under the hood of your system. 

I read in the papers last week that Google is about to know everything there is 
to know, so soon...

Kees.


AABEND BB7 (U2999)

Explanation: An ACTEST user issues the ABEND command. SOLVE:TCPaccess 
terminates with a dump.

Action: None, if the ACTEST user intended to terminate SOLVE:TCPaccess. If 
ACTEST is not protected by command security and a curious user entered the 
command (and terminated SOLVE:TCPaccess), the system programmer responsible for 
SOLVE:TCPaccess might consider implementing command security for ACTEST.

Quite similar:
--
AABEND BB7 (U2999) 
 
ExplanationAn ACTEST user issues the ABEND command. Cisco IOS for S/390 
terminates with a dump. 
 
Recommended ActionNone, if the ACTEST user intended to terminate Cisco IOS 
for S/390. If ACTEST is not protected by command security and a curious user 
entered the command (and terminated Cisco IOS for S/390), the system programmer 
responsible for Cisco IOS for S/390 might consider implementing command 
security for ACTEST.

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The V7 Spawner program on MVS may fail with the following errors:

OMVS SEGMENT NOT DEFINED.
+LSCX041  ERROR 
IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X13E MATCHED.  JOBNAME=SPAWNER , ASID=0079.
+ABEND occurred in MAIN(VSOCKET),offset 000DE8
+Program terminated by operating system. ABEND code = U2999
+Calling trace:
+FunctionLineOffsetContext
+MAIN(VSOCKET)   000DE8
IEF450I SPAWNER SAS7 SAS7 - ABEND=S000 U2999 REASON= 986
ICH408I JOB(ASCHINT ) STEP() 987
  BX29RJ.SPAWNER.JOBLOG CL(DATASET )
  INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
  ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE )  ACCESS ALLOWED(NONE   )

This problem will occur if SECACPT=CONV is set in the APPL defintion of
the LU used to launch the OS/390 spawner transaction program.

To correct the problem, set SECACPT=ALREADYV.

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OA28604: ABENDU2999 IN CIKICSVC 
A fix is available
Obtain the fix for this APAR.
APAR status
Closed as program error.
Error description
ABEND u2999 in CIKICSVC at offset x'174e' caused by a
SVC 11 (x'b') which has an out of range value in register 15.
Local fix
KEYWORDS: u2999 2999 CIKICSVC TICSVC SVC B
AB0C4 ABEND0C4 ABEND0C6 AB0C6

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Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 02:58
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Subject: abend code BB7 ?

Abend code BB7 does not seem  to be documented in the System Codes manual, even 
at the z.os 2.1 level.  As in:

IEC615I ABEND=000BB7-1101 OCCURRED IN THE (nameremoved) EXIT MODULE FOR 
DYNAMIC EXIT IGGPRE00_EXIT

The IEC615I message only indicates that abend  000BB7-110 occured in exit 
routine (nameremoved) .

Is this not documented on purpose, or has the manual not caught up with Dynamic 
Exits?  Does anyone know what the BB7 abend is caused by? 

Thank you.

Paul

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Re: Amdahl UTS manual

2014-08-25 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Spring? Lucky you. According to our calendar it should be summer here, but it 
has been autumn all this month.
Kees.

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John McKown wrote:

Gee, it feels like Friday already! [grin]

This upcoming Friday, it will be nearly Spring, just in time for serious lawn 
mowing, swimming, beer drink, etc. ;-)


Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Hard Capping an LPAR

2014-08-21 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
If you need to cap a single application, put it in a Resource Group and give 
that a cap.

Kees.

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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 05:55
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Thank you, that's what I needed to know.

We are trying to limit two problem ISV's that are MIPS based charging. We need 
to do a major CPU upgrade and these two products are making it too painful. One 
can't be gotten rid of easily. The other can be replaced with some pain but is 
doable.

If we can isolate them to the hard capped, very limited use LPAR, then maybe we 
can negotiate with them.

Thanks, Bobby



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Putting a hard cap on an LPAR limits the LPAR's use of the CPU; it does not 
limit a single application.

Yes you specify that on the HMC. 5% of 2000 is 100.

Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd.
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Re: PRSM % CPU calculation

2014-08-21 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
From V1.13 Hiperdispatch is default. This means that logical processors can be 
parked and do nothing for some time.

Kees.

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Subject: PRSM % CPU calculation

Per the System Performance Paper from CMG the calculation for CPU utilization 
is as follows:

For Shared Logical Processors  CPU Utilization = Sum(SMF70PDT) / (NUMCPS x 
SMF70INT) x 100% For Dedicated Logical Processors  CPU Utilization = 
Sum(SMF70PDT –- SMF70WAT) / (NUMCPS x SMF70INT) x 100% 

First question: Looking at SMF date, how does one know if it is a dedicated 
logical processor?

Second question: We are getting 0% CPU utilization when doing the Shared 
Logical Processor calculation. Is this the correct way to calculate LPAR 
processor utilization? 

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Re: Hard Capping an LPAR

2014-08-21 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
This way one can keep the single application under control, without impacting 
other applications in the LPAR.

Kees.

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Not sure that addresses the licence cost issue. BTW hello Bobby!

Cheers, Martin

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From:   Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com
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Date:   21/08/2014 07:37
Subject:Re: Hard Capping an LPAR
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If you need to cap a single application, put it in a Resource Group and give 
that a cap.

Kees.

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Of Herring, Bobby
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 05:55
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Subject: Re: Hard Capping an LPAR

Thank you, that's what I needed to know.

We are trying to limit two problem ISV's that are MIPS based charging. We need 
to do a major CPU upgrade and these two products are making it too painful. One 
can't be gotten rid of easily. The other can be replaced with some pain but is 
doable.

If we can isolate them to the hard capped, very limited use LPAR, then maybe we 
can negotiate with them.

Thanks, Bobby



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Putting a hard cap on an LPAR limits the LPAR's use of the CPU; it does not 
limit a single application.

Yes you specify that on the HMC. 5% of 2000 is 100.

Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd.
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Re: FDR tape dataset Reading

2014-08-15 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
AFAIR, FDRMAP is part of Compaktor, not of FDR. FDRABRP is available if you 
have FDR only.

Kees.

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Subject: Re: FDR tape dataset Reading

FDR provides a utility called FDRMAP  FDRMAPT. First one maps a disk.
Second one maps a tape providing similar looking report as the disk one.


John Clifford

Consultant (looking for work)


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 6:32 AM, mf db dbajava...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am looking for a sample JCL on reading FDR backup tape dataset. The 
 Intent is to read the FDR tape dataset(To identify the Number of 
 Dataset backups taken).


 Does anyone has a similar Examples ? I am just trying to understand 
 the utility name which can help me to accomplish the task.

 FDR 5.4
 z/os : 1.13


 Peter.

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Re: FDR tape dataset Reading

2014-08-14 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
There is the FDRABRP program to map the contents of a tape. It is somewhat 
complicated if you have it or not. Mapping an FDR tape was possible with a 
Compactor tool, but when we abandoned Compactor, we received an ABR tool to map 
FDR tapes, or it was already shipped with FDR.

Kees.

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Subject: FDR tape dataset Reading

Hi,

I am looking for a sample JCL on reading FDR backup tape dataset. The Intent is 
to read the FDR tape dataset(To identify the Number of Dataset backups taken).


Does anyone has a similar Examples ? I am just trying to understand the utility 
name which can help me to accomplish the task.

FDR 5.4
z/os : 1.13


Peter.

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Re: Extents more than One for load modules library

2014-08-14 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM


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Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 15:52
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Subject: Re: Extents more than One for load modules library

On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 13:38:03 +, DASDBILL2 wrote:

It is my cold and fuzzy recollection that 6144 was in vogue for a few years 
when that value was deemed to be VERY good on a 3340 DASD and not too shabby 
[1] for most other flavors. 
Bill Fairchild
  
[1] Or, more precisely, okay or swell. 
 
ISTR that because 4KiB did not fit nicely in a 3350(?) track 6KiB became 
fashionable, perhaps even for page data sets.

-- gil

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I remember 6144 as a reasonable optimal size for both 3330 (13030) and 3350 
(19069).

Kees.

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Re: REGION size IEFUSI question

2014-08-13 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I suspect the reasons are ancient and not relevant anymore. Maybe practical 
experience as result of initiator fragmentation.
I don’t understand:

set the result as limit below

set the result minus 96K as  size below.


You can probably set up modern rules, depending on your available storage, 
like:  
if regionsize  512M
then set regionsize=512M
else allow requested regionsize.

Kees.


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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 20:24
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Subject: REGION size IEFUSI question

Hi list,


A client asked me to revise an old IEFUSI exit.

Part of the logic flow is:

If REGION=x is coded in  the JCL and x 16M or x = 0M then do

add 96K to REGION limit below

Q1: Why 96K?

end

else do

Take the region size below from LDASIZA

substract LDAHIAL

substract 384K

Q2: Why 384K

set the result as limit below

set the result minus 96K as  size below.

Q3: Why 96K?

end

If anybody has an idea about Q1, Q2 oe Q3, i would be most grateful.


Best regards,


j@n

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Re: Mass updates to the WLM policy.

2014-08-13 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
If this clears the situation: I want to add the Schenv's to the WLM Service 
Definition, without using them at the same time. Adding them manually and 
errorfree is a horrible task, I want to automate this. I think I found 
something with my terminal emulator macro function. 

Starting to use them is a different action.

Kees.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 15:05
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Subject: Re: Mass updates to the WLM policy.

No, what I am saying is that is perfectly OK to add 100 scheduling 
environments, just not all at once (i.e. 1 activation of the Service policy).

Add them 10 at a time and measure the results, adjust.
Repeat until all needed environments have been added.

snip
Do you mean that adding 100 Scheduling Environments is something I should never 
want to do? What could be the unintended impact? The policy can hold 999 
Resources and 999 Schenvs and the Schenv Redbook even gives performance hints 
for this situation (add a control Resource to each Schenv).

I think the only way to do it automated is with a macro of my terminal 
emulator. This way I also do mass updates to my SMS SCDS (e.g. change the 
retain-days-only-backup of all my managementclasses). This is much less 
sensitive to typo's than doing it manually.

Kees.

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Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 16:54
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Subject: Re: Mass updates to the WLM policy.

IMO, no massive changes should *EVER* be added to a WLM Service Definition.
 *BEWARE* the law of unintended consequences.

It is not a matter of the doing (via any method), it is a matter of the impact.

Just my $0.02 USD worth.

snip
It has been asked before: is it possible to do mass updates to the WLM policy 
easily, e.g. add 200 Scheduling Enviroments to it, in batch or so? Apart from 
the replies, that the OP should not want to do what he wants to do, the general 
answer was NO.

Is this still so?
The z/OS MF interface seems to work the same way as the TSO interface: on 
update at a time.
Has anyone found out the layout of the WLM policy PDS and a way or tool to 
manipulate (unload, update, reload) it in order to insert mass updates there?
/snip

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Re: Mass updates to the WLM policy.

2014-08-12 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Do you mean that adding 100 Scheduling Environments is something I should never 
want to do? What could be the unintended impact? The policy can hold 999 
Resources and 999 Schenvs and the Schenv Redbook even gives performance hints 
for this situation (add a control Resource to each Schenv).

I think the only way to do it automated is with a macro of my terminal 
emulator. This way I also do mass updates to my SMS SCDS (e.g. change the 
retain-days-only-backup of all my managementclasses). This is much less 
sensitive to typo's than doing it manually.

Kees.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Staller, Allan
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 16:54
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mass updates to the WLM policy.

IMO, no massive changes should *EVER* be added to a WLM Service Definition.
 *BEWARE* the law of unintended consequences.

It is not a matter of the doing (via any method), it is a matter of the impact.

Just my $0.02 USD worth.

snip
It has been asked before: is it possible to do mass updates to the WLM policy 
easily, e.g. add 200 Scheduling Enviroments to it, in batch or so? Apart from 
the replies, that the OP should not want to do what he wants to do, the general 
answer was NO.

Is this still so?
The z/OS MF interface seems to work the same way as the TSO interface: on 
update at a time.
Has anyone found out the layout of the WLM policy PDS and a way or tool to 
manipulate (unload, update, reload) it in order to insert mass updates there?
/snip

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Re: Extents more than One for load modules library

2014-08-11 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Bob Shannon
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 12:53
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Subject: Re: Extents more than One for load modules library

 Load libraries go to more than one extent all the time. I don't believe there 
 is any general problem.

The problem occurs if the libraries are in the Linklist. A new extent won't be 
reflected in the DEB. For non-Linklist libraries it shouldn't be a problem 
until the next IPL or until a new Linklist Set is created..

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software


This problem is not limited to linklist libraries, but applies to all open 
libraries. E.g. if your IMS or CICS loadlib has extents and takes one more, 
also this is not reflected in the DEB and modules there cannot be found.

Kees.



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Mass updates to the WLM policy.

2014-08-11 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Hi all,

It has been asked before: is it possible to do mass updates to the WLM policy 
easily, e.g. add 200 Scheduling Enviroments to it, in batch or so? Apart from 
the replies, that the OP should not want to do what he wants to do, the general 
answer was NO.

Is this still so?
The z/OS MF interface seems to work the same way as the TSO interface: on 
update at a time.
Has anyone found out the layout of the WLM policy PDS and a way or tool to 
manipulate (unload, update, reload) it in order to insert mass updates there?

Kees.


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Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-08 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jim McAlpine
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:05
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Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
wrote:

 Just curious,

 If your tasks had a first step that mod'd a common dataset and then 
 CICS would query that data set, could you set it up that way?

 The data set could contain the info you need Date Time Task_Name 
 Plex_name Startup/Shutdown state.

 Plex_name could also include LPAR name


 So first step of job would set the startup date/time The last step of 
 the job would set the shutdown date/time.

 Lizette


Thanks Lizette, As I said in an earlier reply, we have toyed with a similar 
solution  but using a DB2 table as the data repository. The only problem with 
this type of solution is that it's not bullet proof. We could obviously put 
COND=EVEN on the last step just in case the server address space should abend 
but that does not cover the case where the server may be cancelled by the 
operator for whatever reason. Not highly likely, but still possible. In that 
case the repository data would not reflect the actual situation.

Jim Mc




I think the XCF Notepad solution we be similarly not bulletproof. The only 
bulletproof solution is the SYSDSN ENQ, it will definitely disappear when the 
task or even its LPAR crashes.

Kees.


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Re: z/OS System Initialization Logic (IPL)

2014-07-16 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Does anybody know what IEALSTxx is (Page 35)?

Kees.

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Subject: z/OS System Initialization Logic (IPL)

For those interested, came across the following:

http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS3699

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Re: z/OS System Initialization Logic (IPL)

2014-07-16 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I did, it is not there.

Kees.

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My Error, INITIALIZATION AND TUNING manual.

Chris Blaicher
Principal Software Engineer, Software Development Syncsort Incorporated
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Look in INSTALLATION AND TUNING REFERENCE manual.

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Does anybody know what IEALSTxx is (Page 35)?

Kees.

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For those interested, came across the following:

http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS3699

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Re: Check out IBM Redbooks | IBM Redbooks Mobile App

2014-07-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
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On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 01:25 -0600, Mark Post wrote:
  On 7/9/2014 at 04:24 PM, Ed Finnell
 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: 
  Wonder if SHARE has Mobile plans?
 
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coreapps.android.fol
 lowme.share_inc

Holycow, that requires an awful lot of permissions!  What are they DOING?

  * find accounts on the device
Contacts/Calendar 
  * modify your contacts
  * read your contacts
  * read calendar events plus confidential information
  * add or modify calendar events and send email to guests without
owners' knowledge
Location 
  * precise location (GPS and network-based)
  * approximate location (network-based) Photos/Media/Files 
  * modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
  * test access to protected storage Camera/Microphone 
  * take pictures and videos
Wi-Fi connection information 
  * view Wi-Fi connections
Device ID  call information 
  * read phone status and identity
Other 
  * receive data from Internet
  * view network connections
  * control flashlight
  * prevent device from sleeping
  * run at startup
  * control vibration
  * full network access
  * connect and disconnect from Wi-Fi

Not just No, but Hell, no.

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This indeed looks like the apps that earn money by selling everything they can 
get out of your mobile! Maybe the app must generate the money to keep the 
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Re: PDSE member profile

2014-06-30 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
When I say 'explainable', I just mean that the road from the past to here can 
be explained, but I don't mean to say that it is justifiable. I agree, it 
should have been lifted higher up in the platform somewhere in the 80's.

Kees.


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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:51:51 +, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM wrote:

Yes!. In our group, we all have activated an 'initial macro' that sets for 
certain datasets some of the attributes we require, like STATS, AUTOSAVE OFF 
PROMPT (to avoid PF3's unintentionally saving modifications).
 
And I suppose it can even be project-sensitive, implied by certain data sets.

About what you call IBM chaos: if you look at the history of these features, 
it is explainable how things grew this way. 

No, it's not explainable unless you tolerate irresponsibility.  It could have 
been done right when the decision was made to do it at all.  The function 
should have been provided in Allocation so it would be available alike to ISPF, 
SVC99, TSO ALLOCATE, BPXWDYN, and Batch JCL.

Then we got problems with batch updating PDS's that were in use constantly by 
ISPF users, which was solved by batch updating the PDS with DISP=SHR, which 
corrupted a PDS once in every 1000 to 100 times.

Really!?  Shocking!  When I confronted the problem, with a naive caution I 
resorted to invoking ISPF LM services in batch IKJEFT01 to preserve integrity.

Then PDSMAN intercepted disp=shr batch by adding the SPFEDIT enq and the 
linkage editor was doing likewise.

And even ISPF and linkage editor don't use the same ENQ.  (I believe ISPF uses 
both if RECFM=U.)

Alas, PDSMAN appears to be an ISV product, and can't be relied on to be 
available in every customer shop.  And we, as an ISV, may be compelled to test 
twice, once for compatibility with PDSMAN, and once for integrity absent PDSMAN.

Now we have come to the chaos you describe and yes, someone with a supervising 
view could have stopped this trend and decided to do this at platform level, 
but this did not happen.

It's never too late.

It is like a couple of guys developing a communication protocol for their 
computer connections that suited their needs, but now it is used as 'internet' 
and the total world economy depends on it, it should have been developed 
differently.

At least, unlike allocation/ENQ which is chaotic even within a single OS from a 
single vendor, TCP/IP is uniform across all vendors (unless you regard SNA as a 
viable competitor).

(couple of guys seems to be devaluing DoD ARPA and NSF.)

-- gil

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Re: PDSE member profile

2014-06-27 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I doubt it, the profiles are an internal ISPF thing and their definitions saved 
in the user's personal profile dataset. Which/whose settings should FTP use?

Kees.

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Paul Gilmartin  wrote:

NFS and FTP follow ISPF conventions for member ENQ, and NFS at least (I 
haven't tested FTP) provides member statistics.  Do they likewise respect the 
DSN profile setting of STATS?

Excellent questions! I have now tested FTP by uploading a text file to a PDS 
member which was last updated in 2002. The stats were indeed updated by the 
FTP. I don't know about 'respect'.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: PDSE member profile

2014-06-27 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Yes!. In our group, we all have activated an 'initial macro' that sets for 
certain datasets some of the attributes we require, like STATS, AUTOSAVE OFF 
PROMPT (to avoid PF3's unintentionally saving modifications).

About what you call IBM chaos: if you look at the history of these features, it 
is explainable how things grew this way. 
First there was no (I)SPF, but there were member statistics as save by the 
linkage editor etc. 
Then came (I)SPF and they at some point in time found it useful to save 
statistics, for ISPF use only. 
Then they developed their own enq's (SPFEDIT) for editing several members in a 
PDS while holding the PDS with DISP=SHR. 
Then we got problems with batch updating PDS's that were in use constantly by 
ISPF users, which was solved by batch updating the PDS with DISP=SHR, which 
corrupted a PDS once in every 1000 to 100 times.
Then PDSMAN intercepted disp=shr batch by adding the SPFEDIT enq and the 
linkage editor was doing likewise.
Now we have come to the chaos you describe and yes, someone with a supervising 
view could have stopped this trend and decided to do this at platform level, 
but this did not happen.
It is like a couple of guys developing a communication protocol for their 
computer connections that suited their needs, but now it is used as 'internet' 
and the total world economy depends on it, it should have been developed 
differently.

Kees.


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On 2014-06-27, at 07:21, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM wrote:

 I doubt it, the profiles are an internal ISPF thing and their definitions 
 saved in the user's personal profile dataset. Which/whose settings should FTP 
 use?
  
Are you saying that if multiple users have write access to a PDS for purposes 
of team development (ISPF supports this operation (I used to believe well)), 
they may follow inconsistent conventions with respect to NUMBER, STATS, 
RECOVERY, ...?

Ouch!

In case of team development, such a profile should belong to the library, not 
to the individual developer(s).

Hmmm...  Suppose one developer's edit session crashes, but RECOVERY is on.  Can 
editing that member be resumed and recovered by another team member?

-- gil

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Re: Catalog considerations for a new(ish) systems programmer (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-06-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
We hit this years ago. 
I even made calculations to monitor if we were approaching the limit and had to 
add another usercatalog.
The limit is the size of aliases for a usercatalog in the Mastercatalog record. 
The sum of the lengths of all the aliases is limited to about 32300 bytes. So 
this is about 4500 TSO users.

Kees.

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(UNCLASSIFIED)

I have never hit this restriction in 40 years. IIRC it is a large number.
I was thinking more about the SIZE of the catalog, not the number of aliases 
associated with the catalog.

snip
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:51:26 +, Staller, Allan wrote:

I am not sure I can see the need (technically) for more than one TSO 
ucat, presuming there is anything resembling a rational retention 
policy.

It depends upon how many TSO users you have. IIRC, there is a limit to the 
number of associations a user catalog can have.
/snip

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Re: Catalog considerations for a new(ish) systems programmer (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-06-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Correction(*):
We hit this years ago. 
I even made calculations to monitor if we were approaching the limit and had to 
add another usercatalog.
The limit is the size of aliases for a usercatalog in the Mastercatalog record. 
The sum of all values: 'alias length + 3 bytes' (*) is limited to about 32300 
bytes. So this is about 4500 TSO users.

Kees.

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(UNCLASSIFIED)

I have never hit this restriction in 40 years. IIRC it is a large number.
I was thinking more about the SIZE of the catalog, not the number of aliases 
associated with the catalog.

snip
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:51:26 +, Staller, Allan wrote:

I am not sure I can see the need (technically) for more than one TSO 
ucat, presuming there is anything resembling a rational retention 
policy.

It depends upon how many TSO users you have. IIRC, there is a limit to the 
number of associations a user catalog can have.
/snip

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Re: Catalog considerations for a new(ish) systems programmer (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-06-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Correction(*):
We hit this years ago. 
I even made calculations to monitor if we were approaching the limit and had to 
add another usercatalog.
The limit is the size of aliases for a usercatalog in the Mastercatalog record. 
The sum of all values: 'alias length + 3 bytes' (*) is limited to about 32300 
bytes. So this is about 3230 (*) TSO users.

Kees.

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Subject: Re: Catalog considerations for a new(ish) systems programmer 
(UNCLASSIFIED)

I have never hit this restriction in 40 years. IIRC it is a large number.
I was thinking more about the SIZE of the catalog, not the number of aliases 
associated with the catalog.

snip
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:51:26 +, Staller, Allan wrote:

I am not sure I can see the need (technically) for more than one TSO 
ucat, presuming there is anything resembling a rational retention 
policy.

It depends upon how many TSO users you have. IIRC, there is a limit to the 
number of associations a user catalog can have.
/snip

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Re: Where to lookup what IKJEGS6A / SVC 61 does?

2014-06-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Ask google what it knows about: svc 61 igc0006a

Kees.
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Subject: Where to lookup what IKJEGS6A / SVC 61 does?

Working on some asm code I stumbled on an call to SVC 61. SVC 61 seems to be 
service IKJEGS6A. Neither googling nor searching MVS and TSO manuals helped to 
find what IKJEGS6A does. Can anyone help me with a pointer to some doc?

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Re: COMMANDxx member

2014-06-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Suresh,

The answer is simple: everything between the quotes is issued as an operator 
command, so you can test your statements by issuing the text between the quotes 
from a console.

Kees.

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Subject: COMMANDxx member

Hi

I need a help in coding syntax of z/OS COMMANDxx of PARMLIB. Please note that 
our installation is not sysplex and 4 LPARS connected with GRS in CEC's, one at 
Primary site and the other at secondary site. We are on z/OS 1.12. The below 
are for the automatic dump data sets  allocation coded in the COMMANDxx.

I have three questions here:-

1. Can I use multiple volumes in this scenario.  If so how I can code? ( I 
understood i can't use shared volumes as our is not a sysplex).
2. COM='DUMPDS ADD,VOL=(VOLUM1,VOLUM2)' - is this coding valid in our case?
3. Which coding is correct from the below? I believe CHG DUMP VIRTUAL STOR TO 
2G which is starting after 2048M is a comment..Am I right?
--
a. COM='CD SET,SDUMP,MAXSPACE=2048M CHG DUMP VIRTUAL STOR TO 2G'

b. COM='CD SET,SDUMP,MAXSPACE=2048M CHG DUMP VIRTUAL STOR TO 2G'

I noticed in all other statements in COMMANDxx, comments (I assume) are 
starting after the commands with a gap of minimum 2 empty spaces like the 
second one. If I am wrong please correct me

Please advise.

Thanks,
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Re: COMMANDxx member

2014-06-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Snip
I have seen the below CD command in our COMMANDxx and so wanted to ask and 
confirm whether it is a valid code. So you mean this code should be corrected 
as COM='CD SET,SDUMP,MAXSPACE=2048M'.


COM='CD SET,SDUMP,MAXSPACE=2048M CHG DUMP VIRTUAL STOR TO 2G'
/Snip

There is nothing wrong here, so you don't need to correct it: the parameters of 
the CD command are separated by comma's, so what comes after the following 
blank is ignored and can be used as comment.

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Historic computer part collectors: chip prototype auctioned.

2014-06-20 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-19/nerd-memorabilia-market-arises-with-microchip-auction.html

If you are deep-pocketed, according to the article, this is your chance to by 
the 'birth certificate of computing'.

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Re: How to? Designing a graph of information

2014-06-20 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
John,

I usually hate replies, that don't answer the question, but instead state: why 
don't you try it this way. However, this time I would like to ask some 'what 
are you doing' questions, in spite of your last remark.

1. The product that produces the CMFCPU13/14/15 messages also produces your RMF 
72 records. From those I produce all my statistics on quarterly or hourly 
intervals, be it through CA MICS, but you can do it also via SAS / MXG (or some 
RMF reporting tool I believe). You can even download the SMF records to your 
Linux or Windows system and process them with SAS or a similar product. Did you 
try this?

2. What conclusions do you want to pull out of the figures? You know, that 
these 'LPAR is capped' figures have only a slight relation with the performance 
of those LPARs. If you have a road sign stating there is a speed limit of 100 
m/h, that road is 'capped', but the capping won't hardly create performance 
problems.

Kees.


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Subject: How to? Designing a graph of information

We use PR/SM Group Capacity to regulate our aggregate MSUs from two LPARs on a 
single CEC. This is for cost containment. We have a product which runs on both 
z/OS images on the LPARs which produce messages similar to:

N 402 LIH1 14169 22:07:51.36 STC16813 0090  CMFCPU15 LPAR NO
LONGER SOFT CAPPED BY WLM; CAPPED DURATION WAS
S   00.02.00

I have a program, on Linux, which takes this and produces lines like:

LPAR LIH1 was capped starting at Mon 2014-06-16 21:52:41 until Mon
2014-06-16 21:55:31 for a duration of 00.02.50

I can the process this information in another program which puts the
fields: LPAR (LIH1 above), the started date  time (2014-06-15 21:52:41 
2014-06-16 21:55:31) into a relational table. From this I can generate another 
table which has a row for each minute within the interval. Each row contains 
the date/time column  a column for each z/OS Image. The z/OS image either 
contains a   or a * depending on whether that z/OS is WLM capped any time 
during that minute. Thing of the columns like: date/time @ minute resolution; 
is LPAR#1 capped?; Is LPAR#2 capped?. Now what I want to do is create a time 
graph. The X axis is the date / time. Each point on the Y axis is for a given 
LPAR. The intersection (plot) is either * if that LPAR is capped at that time 
or a blank. This is to show, along a time sequence how each LPAR is being 
capped and uncapped.

Ex:

LIH1 capped| * |   *  |
DEV1 capped|   |   *  |
Date/Time  |  -mm-dd hh:mm | -mm-dd hh:mm |


Hopefully you get the idea. And see at least one problem. There are 1400 
minutes in a single day. Way too many to plot even a single day. So I though, 
why not summarize, perhaps on an hourly basis. Where each point
in the plot is the sum of the number of minutes in which the LPAR was capped. 
This would be easy to do with SQL if I changed the* for not 
capped/capped to 0 and 1 instead. Which I can easily do. Then use SQL to 
consolidate each hour. Again, easy. But what I'd like is something more 
visual than just putting out what would look like a spread sheet with 
numbers. What I would like is a true graph where for each DateTime / LPAR 
point, I would plot a bar whose thickness is relative to the number.
I.e. if a particular LPAR, during a particular hour had been capped 60 times 
(max # of minutes), then I'd have a 100% full vertical bar at that point. If 
it had been capped 30 times, then a 50% full bar. This way, the eye can easily 
scan along the X axis getting an intuitive grasp of how the LPARs are being 
impacted by the WLM capping.

First, does the above information sound useful to others? I mean what I'm 
trying to convey (how WLM capping is possibly affecting turn around).
Secondly, is the method (the bars varying in height) a good intuitive
way to display the information to management (who simply adore graphs, with 
colors!). Third, most difficult, how do I create that graph from the 
information. My original data source is the SYSLOG that we unload to a disk 
data set. I was going to go into a lot of what I have done, but have decided 
that it likely isn't necessary.

Thanks for thoughts. The ones about my lack of sanity are already well known! 
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Re: How to? Designing a graph of information

2014-06-20 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I believe I remember from posts that people are processing SMF records with 
DFSORT to produce reports.
Anyway, the RMF records contain way more info that you get from the CMFCPU* 
messages. It might be worth to try to get some SMF processing running in your 
Linux hobby shed. I know it is done with a tool called WPS, but I don't know it.

At times of overload, the lowest IMPs will suffer. Instead of stopping jobs, 
you could try to assign a lower IMP to a group of them. This causes them to be 
nearly stopped at times of overload, but to continue running when there is CPU 
available.
I see the relation of stopping jobs with the 4HA management. However, in my 
experience it is difficult to manage it such in one hour, that you have enough 
saved for the next hour. But this is in our configuration, yours will be 
different.

You could emphasize more on performance (SLAs) than on capping. This way you 
can show, that the capping is producing dollars, without impacting the SLAs.

I see you are also squeezed by customers' performance demands and management's 
dollars demands. Aren't we all? Luckily, I am able to run both very close to 
the edge AND my manager is convinced that the outcome is the maximum 
realizable, so I am not alone in defending my actions.

Kees.

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Subject: Re: How to? Designing a graph of information

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM  
kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:

 John,

 I usually hate replies, that don't answer the question, but instead state:
 why don't you try it this way. However, this time I would like to ask 
 some 'what are you doing' questions, in spite of your last remark.


In this case, I can use why don't you do it this way? questions. I'm a bit a 
sea at present (in a row boat, no less).



 1. The product that produces the CMFCPU13/14/15 messages also produces 
 your RMF 72 records. From those I produce all my statistics on 
 quarterly or hourly intervals, be it through CA MICS, but you can do 
 it also via SAS / MXG (or some RMF reporting tool I believe). You can 
 even download the SMF records to your Linux or Windows system and 
 process them with SAS or a similar product. Did you try this?


No. We have no software on z/OS which can _easily_ do anything. We had SAS/MXG 
long ago. Too expensive!. All that I have in my quiver right now on z/OS are 
COBOL and HLASM. My heavy artillery is on my Linux desktop:
Perl, awk, PostgreSQL relational data base, R language (conceptually similar to 
SAS, but not the same language).



 2. What conclusions do you want to pull out of the figures? You know, 
 that these 'LPAR is capped' figures have only a slight relation with 
 the performance of those LPARs. If you have a road sign stating there 
 is a speed limit of 100 m/h, that road is 'capped', but the capping 
 won't hardly create performance problems.



This is a bit more difficult. The original spark was from one of our Production 
Control people. She basically wanted to look at whether it would be helpful 
in any way to reduce our active initiator count during certain time frames. So 
I was going to use the LPAR capping as a time when the CEC is overloaded. If 
the CEC is overloaded, then it wouldn't hurt to reduce the number of active 
initiators. And it might actually help because then individual jobs would 
probably finish a bit sooner, there being less multi-job overhead. Again, we 
are grasping at straws for CPU sometimes.

Another thing which is a biggie is the 4 hour rolling average MSU. Why?
Because if we are running below our cap, then we are saving up MSUs. What 
this does is mean that we can use some of these saved MSUs to exceed our 
Group Capacity for a short time to cover some times where we get a CPU spike. 
Having MSUs in the bank gives our managers  Production Control people warm 
fuzzies and good feelings. Like I feel when I have a full tank of gas in the 
car (or my tummy grin/).

Also, for whatever reason, IT management (my boss, his colleagues, and higher 
managers) seem to have a thing about the machine being capped.
So this is just one way to try to present information to them that they seem to 
want. IOW, I get an attaboy award for a pretty graph. For me, personally, I 
don't care about performance until we start missing SLAs.
Production Control wants jobs finished as fast as possible so that problems are 
detected earlier and there is more time to fix them before we get dinged for 
missing an SLA. In the main, this means that we end up finishing early.

We are doing a lot of strange, and perhaps even foolish, things. The reason 
is that IT management wants to decrease our MSU max, because for each reduction 
of 1 MSU, we get a price break of $12,000 / year. Seems little, but we are 
scrounging pennies. This despite the fact that the z/OS

Re: How to? Designing a graph of information

2014-06-20 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Try this: http://wps-community.org/
I have asked a friend who uses it, if this is what he uses and if it is free. 
He has converted everything he did with MXG to WPS.

Kees.

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Subject: Re: How to? Designing a graph of information

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM  
kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:

 I believe I remember from posts that people are processing SMF records 
 with DFSORT to produce reports.
 Anyway, the RMF records contain way more info that you get from the
 CMFCPU* messages. It might be worth to try to get some SMF processing 
 running in your Linux hobby shed. I know it is done with a tool called 
 WPS, but I don't know it.


My boss has heard of WPS, but could never find out much. I don't know if he 
couldn't find the company, or if they didn't respond to his inquiries. In any 
case, I can do anything that I want. So long as the cost, to the company, is no 
more that U.S. $0.00 . Which leaves WPS off the table.



 At times of overload, the lowest IMPs will suffer. Instead of stopping 
 jobs, you could try to assign a lower IMP to a group of them. This 
 causes them to be nearly stopped at times of overload, but to continue 
 running when there is CPU available.
 I see the relation of stopping jobs with the 4HA management. However, 
 in my experience it is difficult to manage it such in one hour, that 
 you have enough saved for the next hour. But this is in our 
 configuration, yours will be different.


I've always thought that this idea of MSUs in the bank was not of all that 
much use, in the big picture. But it is something that my manager is sensitive 
to. Another person, off line, showed me an MSU graph that my manager would 
swoon over. He uses some RMF software to help produce it.
Unfortunately we use an old (purchased) version of BMC's MainView to do our 
RMF-like work, so I don't have the software that he uses.



 You could emphasize more on performance (SLAs) than on capping. This 
 way you can show, that the capping is producing dollars, without 
 impacting the SLAs.

 I see you are also squeezed by customers' performance demands and 
 management's dollars demands. Aren't we all? Luckily, I am able to run 
 both very close to the edge AND my manager is convinced that the 
 outcome is the maximum realizable, so I am not alone in defending my actions.

 Kees.




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Re: V xcf clarification

2014-06-16 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Don't you do a System Reset??? Look at the instructions of IXC102A, or chapter 
in Upsetting a sysplex;-): 8.9  Removing a system from the Sysplex.

Kees.


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Does it need to be done? When we IPL, we just bring everything down as noted 
and then do the load. The LPAR gets removed and reconnected to the plex and all 
seems to work well.

We've never done the V XCF command.

Bobby Herring
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I cannot really think of a specific reason why it SHOULD be done on another 
member in the sysplex.
Assuming that you have brought the system down in a clean way (stopped all 
subsystems, etc..), It sounds like a trouble  to get on a local terminal or HMC 
to issue the V XCF, OFFLINE to vary itself down.
Issueing V XCF, OFFLINE results in message IXC371D anyway. Much easier to just 
issue the command on another system of that sysplex and replying at IXC371D to 
vary the system out of the sysplex.

Again, I personally can not come up with a reason why this is done normally.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Ronald Kristel


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 Hi ,

 Our IPL procedure says to issue v xcf offline from a active in the 
 same plex. Its like dt01 is being ipled but v xcf, offline sys=dt01 
 from a active lpar dt02. This is being done on CF bases plex.Is there 
 any specific reason for issuing v xcf offline from a active system ?

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Re: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

2014-06-13 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I see this every IPL, together with: 
IWM052I STRUCTURE(SYSZWLM_66B62817), STRUCTURE IS NOT DEFINED IN THE 
ACTIVE POLICY

We don't need this, so we did not define the structure.

Kees.

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Subject: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

Hello,
   I am getting below issues for WLM while IPLing system z/OS 2.1 in 
sysplex.

IXL013I IXLCONN REQUEST FOR STRUCTURE SYSZWLM_WORKUNIT FAILED. 543
JOBNAME: WLM ASID: 000A CONNECTOR NAME: #PRO9 IXLCONN RETURN CODE: 000C,  
REASON CODE: 02010C05 STRUCTURE NOT DEFINED IN THE CFRM ACTIVE POLICY

IXL013I IXLCONN REQUEST FOR STRUCTURE SYSZWLM_3E5D2094 FAILED. 550
JOBNAME: WLM ASID: 000A CONNECTOR NAME: #PRO9 IXLCONN RETURN CODE: 000C,  
REASON CODE: 02010C05 STRUCTURE NOT DEFINED IN THE CFRM ACTIVE POLICY

I never encountered this issue before. Anybaody faced similar issue.


*IWM048E WLM RUNNING IN GOAL MODE WITH THE DEFAULT POLICY

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Re: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

2014-06-13 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
We don't use it either, but never had problems with it.
It looks as if something in your WLM policy has changed, that requires WLM to 
use this structure.

Kees.

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we not using these structure in our shop, I check in my current CFRM policy. 
Anyway to bypass these structure.

Also I am getting below adend on WLM while IPling system


IWMOO5W WORKLOAD MANAGER (COMP/SCWLM) CATASTROPHIC FAILURE.
WAIT STATE CODE WS/08C
REASON CODE RSN/001
ENTRYPOINT EP/ENKNOWN
REASON IS GENERIC/UNKNOWN WLM FAILURE
NO ADDITIONAL WLM SPECIFIC INFORMATION.



On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM  
kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:

 I see this every IPL, together with:
 IWM052I STRUCTURE(SYSZWLM_66B62817), STRUCTURE IS NOT DEFINED IN THE 
 ACTIVE POLICY

 We don't need this, so we did not define the structure.

 Kees.

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 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

 Hello,
I am getting below issues for WLM while IPLing system z/OS 
 2.1 in sysplex.

 IXL013I IXLCONN REQUEST FOR STRUCTURE SYSZWLM_WORKUNIT FAILED. 543
 JOBNAME: WLM ASID: 000A CONNECTOR NAME: #PRO9 IXLCONN RETURN CODE:
 000C,  REASON CODE: 02010C05 STRUCTURE NOT DEFINED IN THE CFRM 
 ACTIVE POLICY

 IXL013I IXLCONN REQUEST FOR STRUCTURE SYSZWLM_3E5D2094 FAILED. 550
 JOBNAME: WLM ASID: 000A CONNECTOR NAME: #PRO9 IXLCONN RETURN CODE:
 000C,  REASON CODE: 02010C05 STRUCTURE NOT DEFINED IN THE CFRM 
 ACTIVE POLICY

 I never encountered this issue before. Anybaody faced similar issue.


 *IWM048E WLM RUNNING IN GOAL MODE WITH THE DEFAULT POLICY

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Re: XR vs SR

2014-06-04 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM


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Subject: Re: XR vs SR

On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 08:10:26 -0400, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:

This discussion has turned dr le.

Lavoisier wrote, about those who had continued to support the 
phlogiston theory,

Dunno about phlogiston, but there are those that believe smoke is *the* 
ingredient that make electronics work.
Once the smoke escapes, they stop working - Q.E.D.

Shane ...

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Is that a test similar to the test that proves that frogs hear with their legs?

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Re: XR vs SR

2014-06-03 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM


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Subject: Re: XR vs SR

On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 05:54:12 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:

XR over SR seems to be a persistent myth. I have been told again and 
again from time to time that XR was faster than SR. There is no reason 
it should be, and the evidence is that it is not.
 
Carry propagation delay?  Not likely on the z, but see:

http://arc.cecs.pdx.edu/about 

The author(s) may be oblivious to the requirements of pipelining.

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In that light: SR sets the CC, XR does not. Could this make a difference, if 
not in speed, then maybe in power consumption?

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Re: Costs of core

2014-06-02 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I still remember the early 80's, on a 3031/3033 or so I think, when IBM decided 
to sell memory in 1MB units only. We needed 0.5 MB expansion for the next year 
and my manager was very angry with IBM about the unnecessary waste of money 
because of this new policy. So 1 MB was a substantial investment at that time.

Kees.

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year(?) 1980's (early)
1 meg memory for 168 $10,000.00

Ed
On May 29, 2014, at 1:55 PM, zMan wrote:

 I remember my father telling me that core -- REAL memory, a MAN'S 
 memory (yeah, yeah, sexist) -- was $1/byte. Obviously that would have 
 changed by the time it all went solid-state, but does anyone remember 
 whether this was correct or not?
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Re: CSV019I Clarification

2014-05-28 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
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Kees,

Tastes and judgments differ.  I think the non-problem you mention is created by 
what, in my view, is the very bad practice of putting a non-authorized 
routine in an an authorized library.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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John,

I don't think this is a 'bad habit', but only practical: product libraries need 
some modules to be AC=1 and others not. Putting them in one library makes it 
necessary to make the library APF authorized, but there is no requirement to 
make each module AC=1.

Kees.

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Re: CSV019I Clarification

2014-05-27 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
No, there is not: look at it the other way: if I have a steplib or steplib 
concatenation, that is not authorized and does not need to be, I can add an 
authorized library to it without any problems. The reason for adding the 
library could be, that I need a non-authorized module from it.

Mixing authorized and non-authorized libraries makes the concatenation 
non-authorized. If the applications needs it to be authorized, then and only 
then, you have created a problem.

Kees.


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Peter Relson wrote:

begin extract
There is no intrinsic problem with having a concatenation that mixes
APF- and non-APF-authorized libraries.
/end extract

By this he, I believe, means that such a concatenation is not illicit per se, 
does not, for example, trigger a JCL error.

There is, however, a notorious extrinsic side effect.  The members of the 
authorized libraries in such a concatenation cease to be authorized (and thus 
in most cases usable) within its scope.

Probably for want of imagination the only use for such a mixed concatenation 
that I have been able to think of is as a convoluted device for triggering 
ABENDs.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: Where are the allocation messages of a USS process?

2014-05-14 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Thanks Kirk for the pointer to the doc and others for pointing out the 
unavoidable complexing situations. 

One question to possibly avoid the problem of where to write the files with all 
their considerations: we have a Syslog Deamon running, can I have the messages 
sent to this place? That would be quite helpful.

Kees.

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often the answer is nowhere.

See this for a solution:
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.bpxb200%2Fjobpro.htm



Kirk Wolf
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On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM  
kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:

 Hello group,

 We have some dataset problems with USS processes and are looking for 
 the allocation messages.
 I mean the
 IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (DSNIWK02)
 DSN (SYS14131.T210019.RA000.XI1DMS1A.R0141149)
 STORCLAS (SCBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS ()
 VOL SER NOS= VIO
 and similar that you see in the message file of a job or STC or even 
 in Syslog for an STC under MSTR.

 Where do these and other messages going for a USS process?
 A BPXAS STC is started for the process, but this only contains the 
 messages for the BPXAS itself.

 Thanks,
 Kees.

 
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Where are the allocation messages of a USS process?

2014-05-13 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Hello group,

We have some dataset problems with USS processes and are looking for the 
allocation messages.
I mean the
IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (DSNIWK02)
DSN (SYS14131.T210019.RA000.XI1DMS1A.R0141149)
STORCLAS (SCBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS ()
VOL SER NOS= VIO
and similar that you see in the message file of a job or STC or even in Syslog 
for an STC under MSTR.

Where do these and other messages going for a USS process?
A BPXAS STC is started for the process, but this only contains the messages for 
the BPXAS itself.

Thanks,
Kees.


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Re: 378-14 Abend In TSO Verify exit

2014-05-12 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
378-14 Private area storage is not in the specified subpool, is not in  
 
  the specific key or is not owned by the specified task.   
 

You say: Later on I delete the exit and free up the storage

Is the storage freed by another task, that does not own the storage?

Kees.

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Subject: 378-14 Abend In TSO Verify exit

Hi,

 

I have TSO verify exit in which I am enabling LLA exit CSVLLIX1 exit and then 
deleting it this seems intermittently to cause a 378-14 abend

 

Below is the code 

 

*  

 *  Add LLA exit CSVLLIX1 in case module is LLA MANAGED 

 *  

 *   LOAD PROGRAM   

 *  

 *  

  LOAD EP=AAALLIX1  

  SLL  R1,8  Get rid of auth code   

  SRL  R1,5  Length is in double words  

  ST   R1,LLA_LENGTH

  ST   R0,LLA_EXIT  

  LR7,LLA_LENGTH Get Length 

 *  

 *  MOVE TO KEY 0 STORAGE   

 *  

  MODESET MF=(E,SUP_ON)  Athorize us

 *  

  STORAGE OBTAIN,LENGTH=(R7),ADDR=(R6),SP=224   

 *  

  O R6,=X'8000'   31 BIT AM MODE

  STR6,LLA_ADDR   Save Address  

  LRR1,R7 Prime Length  

  L R0,LLA_EXIT 

  MVCL  R6,R0 Move program  

  L R9,PSAAOLD-PSA(,R0) 

ZZ   USING ASCB,R9  

  L R8,ZZ.ASCBASSB   

  USING ASSB,R8  

  MVC   ADRSSTKN,ASSBSTKN

 PRIME_JOB DS   0H   

  LAR8,JOB_NAME  

 

  CSVDYNEX REQUEST=ADD, X

EXITNAME=CSVLLIX1,  X

STATE=ACTIVE,   X

MODNAME=AAALLIX1,   X

MODADDR=LLA_ADDR,   X

STOKEN=ADRSSTKN,X

POS=FIRST,  X

RETCODE=RETCODE,X

RSNCODE=RSNCODE,MF=(E,DYN_PARM)  

*  

*  

*  

  LR15,X'21C'Get Current TCB

  USING TCB,R15 

  LA   R14,LLA_AREA 

  XC   LLA_AREA(LLA_LEN),LLA_AREA Clear Area

  MVC  LLA_PGM,AA.NAME  

  ST   R14,TCBUSER  

  MODESET MF=(E,SUP_OFF)

 

 

Later on I delete the exit and free up the storage

 

 

 CSVDYNEX REQUEST=DELETE,   X

EXITNAME=CSVLLIX1,  X

MODNAME=SGBLLIX1,   X

FORCE=NO,   X

RETCODE=RETCODE,X

RSNCODE=RSNCODE,MF=(E,DYN_PARM)

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-08 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I would add: and test work suffered because your goals were set so. z/OS will 
always do what you tell it to do b.m.o. your goal definitions. 
This is quite different from other platforms, that already start doing 
problematic above 30%. I have seen Linux machines being reboot, because even 
the Sysop was not able to log in in order to check and adjust what the machine 
was doing. This is like being chased out of your house by your own dog, the 
world up side down.

Kees.

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I used to work at an insurance company that refused to add capacity. When we 
ran quarterly processing, later changed to monthly processing, the machine was 
pegged for a day or two. We couldn't do any testing because production sucked 
up all of the resources.  The processor and software continued to work fine 
during that period, it was only test work that suffered.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: Auxiliary Storage Allocation - Inconsistent Numbers?

2014-05-06 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Well, if you do PAGEADDs, and especially PAGEDELs and replace pagevolumes, 
figures become very complicated. ASM has a very curious algorithm of 
administrating where pages reside when you think you moved them from one page 
dataset to another. They are not moved at the same time in ASM's administration.

I would suggest to IPL your system and check the numbers again on a not 
manipulated page configuration.

Kees.

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Hi,

I think I find an answer to question 1 from my previous note. 
It seems that the programs for determing the total number of available aux 
slots don't take into account any page datasets that were added later using a 
PAGEADD command.  

Regards.
Juergen

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Re: non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape.

2014-05-02 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Time flies, so does technique: some 10 years ago STK revealed us the secret 
that they almost had the 1TB tape ready for production.

Kees.

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Subject: non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape.

http://www.itworld.com/storage/416783/sony-develops-tape-tech-could-lead-185-tb-cartridges

Just how long would it take to _find and restore_ an individual file backed up 
on such a monster? Or even just do a backup to it? What good is it, unless 
there is some I/O channel fast enough to do backup and restores which utilize 
at least most of the tape? Or am I, once again, missing something?

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Re: non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape.

2014-05-02 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM

What if the tape itself is broken or teared? Granted, it is years ago I 
encountered a teared tape, but ...

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Thats a different subject: if you decided you don’t need to duplicate your 
data, don't cry at the moment you need the duplicate copy.

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Re: Android TN3270 client

2014-04-30 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
On a Samsung you can swipe, ever thought you could swipe your JCL and Rexx's?

Kees.

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The prospect of attempting keyboard entry hunched over something like a Samsung 
pocket on a packed commuter train just doesn't bear thinking about ...  ;-)


Shane ...

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Re: ISMF data in batch using REXX

2014-04-29 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
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On 2014-04-29 07:23, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:
 Hi,

 We're using the totals REXX to provide a summary for a storage group opened 
 up in ISMF. Example output is as follows:

 Totals for 1 volumes: (15 volumes had missing info.)
Capacity: 8.31 GB  Allocated: 5.69 GB (68%)  Free: 2.63 GB (32%)
 ***

 I'm also trying to get the same information using NaviQuest - ISMF.11.7.1, 
 and then Create   Storage Group List and Generate Report. Example output 
 (formatted visually) for same storage group:

 SG  TOTAL   FREE  
 USED PERC
 -
 D1SOLVE 8.12 GB 2.568 GB  5.552 GB
   31   NAVI MB


 The difference in results increase as the number of volumes increase.
 I've tried RXSMS - http://gsf-soft.com/Freeware/RXSMS.html
 It lists volume information (output lines) for even just the entries in ISMF. 
 Needs some REXX to process this output ...


 How do I work around this please?

Mystic day is on Friday...

What is a totals REXX?

All values differ by a factor 1.024, you should have seen this yourself and 
drawn your own conclusions.

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This again raises the 1000 / 1024 problem. IIRC, ISMF complicates this even 
more by dividing once by 1000 and then each time by 1024 to convert from bytes 
to kbytes, Mbytes and Gbytes. 
And even the bytes number can cause discussion: how many bytes do you calculate 
for a track: the physical limit of 56664, as ISMF does but which is impossible 
to achieve or the real achievable number dependent on blksize, e.g. 55840 for 
lrecl=80. 
However, when you are consistent in your calculations, all will give the same 
percentage.
I don't worry about those details: we manage many TB's and don't care if they 
are 68%, 70% or 72% filled, this is fine and 88%, 90% and 92% are both bad.

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Re: SORT ando MEMLIMIT best practice

2014-04-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Possibly the EC12's Flash memory, which come in huge chunks of relatively cheap 
memory, can help speed up the process of having dozens TBs of temporary 
datasets in memory.

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I don't disagree: I didn't really talk implementation but I want to see very 
large temp data sets in memory, controlled via DFSMS and not too expensive. 
First step is very large IMHO but recast to be cheaper in CPU terms at the 
same time would be welcome.

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VIO has, in any case, been seen as CPU expensive. Because it's 
simulating  a device. I would, however, quite like to see VIO in Memory 
reborn - with  a huge (EAV) device type.

Why? I'd much rather have memory mapped[B|P|Q]SAM support and cut out the extra 
CKD simulation (on top of the CKD simulation in the DASD
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Re: MEMLIMIT best practice

2014-04-22 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I don't know.

Regards,
Kees.

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Kees:


is there any way programmatically that MEMLIMIT can be queried to determine the 
value ?






Regards,

Scott Ford





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Correct, CICS 4.1 requires 4G.

Kees.

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CICS TS 5.1 requires MEMLIMIT=6G, according to the doc:

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/cicsts/v5r1/topic/com.ibm.cics.ts.performance.doc/topics/dfht3_dsa_memlimit.html

   -jc-

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 We have 4G, not from recommendations, but from experience. CICS 5.x required 
 this.
 
 Kees.
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of R.S.
 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:49
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: MEMLIMIT best practice
 
 W dniu 2014-04-18 01:25, Ed Jaffe pisze:
  On 4/4/2014 12:47 PM, R.S. wrote:
  I'm looking for some ROT (rule of thumb) for MEMLIMIT.
  What I learnt:
  - default limit is set in SMFPRMxx
  - the limit can be affected by IEFUSI or other exit (this is not my
  case)
  - REGION=0 implies default MEMLIMIT ignore (MEMLIMIT=inifinity)
  - gotcha: MEMLIMIT=0 does not mean infinity, it really means zero.
 
  However I'm looking for a clue what to put into SMFPRM. What value 
  is OK?
 
  If you specify absolutely nothing about MEMLIMIT anywhere, the 
  system-provided default is 2G so obviously you can't go wrong with 
  that in SMFPRMxx.
 
 Well,
 My issue (problem?) is I have MEMLIMIT coded, but it's much more than 
 default 2G. And I noticed that some DFSORT jobs consume considerable amounts 
 of memory causing paging.
  From the other hand I don't want to be stingy, so I'm looking for some 
 recommendations.
 
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Re: SORT ando MEMLIMIT best practice

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o What are the consequences of allocating SORTWKn to VIO?

DFSORT refuses SORTWKs in VIO.

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Re: MEMLIMIT best practice

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We have 4G, not from recommendations, but from experience. CICS 5.x required 
this.

Kees.

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W dniu 2014-04-18 01:25, Ed Jaffe pisze:
 On 4/4/2014 12:47 PM, R.S. wrote:
 I'm looking for some ROT (rule of thumb) for MEMLIMIT.
 What I learnt:
 - default limit is set in SMFPRMxx
 - the limit can be affected by IEFUSI or other exit (this is not my
 case)
 - REGION=0 implies default MEMLIMIT ignore (MEMLIMIT=inifinity)
 - gotcha: MEMLIMIT=0 does not mean infinity, it really means zero.

 However I'm looking for a clue what to put into SMFPRM. What value is 
 OK?

 If you specify absolutely nothing about MEMLIMIT anywhere, the 
 system-provided default is 2G so obviously you can't go wrong with 
 that in SMFPRMxx.

Well,
My issue (problem?) is I have MEMLIMIT coded, but it's much more than default 
2G. And I noticed that some DFSORT jobs consume considerable amounts of memory 
causing paging.
 From the other hand I don't want to be stingy, so I'm looking for some 
recommendations.

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Re: MEMLIMIT best practice

2014-04-18 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Correct, CICS 4.1 requires 4G.

Kees.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 13:49
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Subject: Re: MEMLIMIT best practice

CICS TS 5.1 requires MEMLIMIT=6G, according to the doc:

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/cicsts/v5r1/topic/com.ibm.cics.ts.performance.doc/topics/dfht3_dsa_memlimit.html

   -jc-

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 On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP
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 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:59 AM
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 Subject: Re: MEMLIMIT best practice
 
 We have 4G, not from recommendations, but from experience. CICS 5.x required 
 this.
 
 Kees.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of R.S.
 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:49
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: MEMLIMIT best practice
 
 W dniu 2014-04-18 01:25, Ed Jaffe pisze:
  On 4/4/2014 12:47 PM, R.S. wrote:
  I'm looking for some ROT (rule of thumb) for MEMLIMIT.
  What I learnt:
  - default limit is set in SMFPRMxx
  - the limit can be affected by IEFUSI or other exit (this is not my
  case)
  - REGION=0 implies default MEMLIMIT ignore (MEMLIMIT=inifinity)
  - gotcha: MEMLIMIT=0 does not mean infinity, it really means zero.
 
  However I'm looking for a clue what to put into SMFPRM. What value 
  is OK?
 
  If you specify absolutely nothing about MEMLIMIT anywhere, the 
  system-provided default is 2G so obviously you can't go wrong with 
  that in SMFPRMxx.
 
 Well,
 My issue (problem?) is I have MEMLIMIT coded, but it's much more than 
 default 2G. And I noticed that some DFSORT jobs consume considerable amounts 
 of memory causing paging.
  From the other hand I don't want to be stingy, so I'm looking for some 
 recommendations.
 
 --
 Radoslaw Skorupka
 Lodz, Poland
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Command Scheduling

2014-04-16 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Jake,

JES2 automatic commands let you schedule a command on a number hours and 
minutes after last midnight. So you can schedule for today or any day in the 
future, just calculate how many hours and minutes after last midnight you want 
the command to be executed. T=36.00 is noon tomorrow.
For scheduling on a fixed date/time we use SA timers.

Kees.

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Hello All,

I am looking for some possibility of issuing a MVS command On every Month of 
1st week.

Its like : /I DEL on every 2nd of Each Month.

I am trying to search under JES2 Time command but not able to get a right 
syntax.

Could someone please point me to the right command or any new approach.

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Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-14 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Mike,

I used the wrong term 'reorg'. The job did a load-replace. In this case the old 
dataset is deleted and the new one allocated and filled. Therefor it should be 
able to reuse the old space, *if* SMS is aware of the new free space on the 
'old' volume. Apparently it isn't. Your explanation that SMS updates its 
statistics when allocating a dataset (and apparently not when a dataset is 
deleted) explains why the new space on the 'old' volume will not be seen by SMS 
until the 150 sec. update cycle. Which is a pity for accurate and quick space 
management.

Kees.


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When I have added volumes to a storage group, the old totals remain until a 
dataset is allocated on a volume, then that volume's stats were updated to the 
storage group.  Recently, I think IBM put in logic to update the storage 
group's totals when a volume is varied online or offline.

During the reorg, you have two copies of the dataset.  The old dataset being 
used as a source and the new dataset being used as a target.  If you don't have 
enough space on the active volumes, the reorg blows up at our shop and I get 
called on the weekend or goes onto quiescent volumes at your shop.

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM 
kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:
 Hello group,

 We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we 
 cannot explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes, on 
 which SMS is supposed to allocate datasets only when all the enabled volumes 
 in the storagegroup are filled to their max (migration high percentage). This 
 triggers us to have a look at the storagegroup and add space to it.

 During DB2 Reorgs we see datasets being allocated on Quiesced volumes, 
 although space should be available on the Enabled volumes in the storage 
 group. Tracing in detail, we see DBM1 deleting and defining parts of the 
 tablespace in a very high speed. If a part of the table space has been 
 deleted, it makes space available for the define of the new part, but this 
 space is not used by SMS. Our assumption is, that SMS does not update its 
 administration when DBM1 has deleted a part and when DBM1 defines a new part 
 of the table space, SMS must look for free space based on its 'aged' 
 information. Considering the speed of DBM1's delete and define actions, it 
 appears as if space for the entire new tablespace must be found as if the old 
 tablespace still is fully present. When the Reorg has finished, we have a 
 large amount of space allocated on the Quiesced volumes, with ample space for 
 it available on the enabled volumes.

 At what moments or at what rate or with which other algorithm does SMS update 
 its free space information of the volumes of a storagegroup? I could not find 
 it in SMS information.

 Thanks,
 Kees.

 
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Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Greg,
I hope it is clear now, that it was working as expected, but it should not have 
done so at this very moment.
Apparently the 150 sec. appears to be the algorithm, although I hoped that SMS 
had a more accurate view on its storagepools.

Kees.

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Sorry, Kees.  I was focusing on your original comment that you were using 
quiesced volumes as a means to indicate whether your storage group needed more 
space added to it.  Since it wasn't working as you expected, I was suggesting 
another method.  
It doesn't answer your question, but I'll be surprised if anyone on this list 
can authoritatively answer it. 

Regards,
Greg 


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Greg, how is this an anser to my question? SMS selects my Quiesced volume and 
it is meant to do this, IF the enabled volumes are full. However the enabled 
volumes are not full, but still it goes to Quiesced volumes, secondary lists, 
spill volumes, spill groups or whatever other choices it might have, and I want 
to know WHY.

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How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Hello group,

We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we cannot 
explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes, on which 
SMS is supposed to allocate datasets only when all the enabled volumes in the 
storagegroup are filled to their max (migration high percentage). This triggers 
us to have a look at the storagegroup and add space to it.

During DB2 Reorgs we see datasets being allocated on Quiesced volumes, although 
space should be available on the Enabled volumes in the storage group. Tracing 
in detail, we see DBM1 deleting and defining parts of the tablespace in a very 
high speed. If a part of the table space has been deleted, it makes space 
available for the define of the new part, but this space is not used by SMS. 
Our assumption is, that SMS does not update its administration when DBM1 has 
deleted a part and when DBM1 defines a new part of the table space, SMS must 
look for free space based on its 'aged' information. Considering the speed of 
DBM1's delete and define actions, it appears as if space for the entire new 
tablespace must be found as if the old tablespace still is fully present. When 
the Reorg has finished, we have a large amount of space allocated on the 
Quiesced volumes, with ample space for it available on the enabled volumes.

At what moments or at what rate or with which other algorithm does SMS update 
its free space information of the volumes of a storagegroup? I could not find 
it in SMS information.

Thanks,
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Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Please explain...

Kees.

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Asking the obvious, has the new SCDS been activated?

snip
We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we cannot 
explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes, on which 
SMS is supposed to allocate datasets only when all the enabled volumes in the 
storagegroup are filled to their max (migration high percentage). This triggers 
us to have a look at the storagegroup and add space to it.

During DB2 Reorgs we see datasets being allocated on Quiesced volumes, although 
space should be available on the Enabled volumes in the storage group. Tracing 
in detail, we see DBM1 deleting and defining parts of the tablespace in a very 
high speed. If a part of the table space has been deleted, it makes space 
available for the define of the new part, but this space is not used by SMS. 
Our assumption is, that SMS does not update its administration when DBM1 has 
deleted a part and when DBM1 defines a new part of the table space, SMS must 
look for free space based on its 'aged' information. Considering the speed of 
DBM1's delete and define actions, it appears as if space for the entire new 
tablespace must be found as if the old tablespace still is fully present. When 
the Reorg has finished, we have a large amount of space allocated on the 
Quiesced volumes, with ample space for it available on the enabled volumes.

At what moments or at what rate or with which other algorithm does SMS update 
its free space information of the volumes of a storagegroup? I could not find 
it in SMS information.
/snip

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Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Allan, 

This is in a normal, steady running system. No activation problems.

Do you have an answer to the question: how often does SMS updates its 
administration?

Kees.

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After using the DF/SMS ISPF panels to update the SCDS, it must be activated 
for the changes to take effect.

I use the following sequence of commands:

SETSMS SAVEACDS(linear vsam dateset e.g. SYS1.SAVEACDS). This makes a backup 
copy of the currently running parameters) SETSMS SCDS(linear vsam dataset e.g. 
SYS1.SCDS). This moves the changes made via the panels to the active cds

HTH,

snip
Please explain...

Kees.

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Asking the obvious, has the new SCDS been activated?

snip
We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we cannot 
explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes, on which 
SMS is supposed to allocate datasets only when all the enabled volumes in the 
storagegroup are filled to their max (migration high percentage). This triggers 
us to have a look at the storagegroup and add space to it.

During DB2 Reorgs we see datasets being allocated on Quiesced volumes, although 
space should be available on the Enabled volumes in the storage group. Tracing 
in detail, we see DBM1 deleting and defining parts of the tablespace in a very 
high speed. If a part of the table space has been deleted, it makes space 
available for the define of the new part, but this space is not used by SMS. 
Our assumption is, that SMS does not update its administration when DBM1 has 
deleted a part and when DBM1 defines a new part of the table space, SMS must 
look for free space based on its 'aged' information. Considering the speed of 
DBM1's delete and define actions, it appears as if space for the entire new 
tablespace must be found as if the old tablespace still is fully present. When 
the Reorg has finished, we have a large amount of space allocated on the 
Quiesced volumes, with ample space for it available on the enabled volumes.

At what moments or at what rate or with which other algorithm does SMS update 
its free space information of the volumes of a storagegroup? I could not find 
it in SMS information.
/snip

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Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I don't , and I think it will not help. If SMS skips a volume because it 
(thinks it) is over the limit, and says so, I still don't know if this is based 
on the actual volume status or on SMS's administration, which is running behind 
the real situation.

Do you have an answer to the question: how often does SMS updates its 
administration?

Kees.

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Were you aware of the SETSMS VOLSELMSG command?   The description is below.  It 
could help in understanding what is happening. 

The SMS command, SETSMS VOLSELMSG(ON) can be used to request summarized and 
detailed analysis messages on volume selection, if volume selection is not 
prematurely terminated by an error. These analysis messages can assist the user 
to perform problem diagnosis on volume selection. 

HTH,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company 

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Subject: How often does SMS update its free space information?

Hello group,

We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we cannot 
explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes, on which 
SMS is supposed to allocate datasets only when all the enabled volumes in the 
storagegroup are filled to their max (migration high percentage). This triggers 
us to have a look at the storagegroup and add space to it.

During DB2 Reorgs we see datasets being allocated on Quiesced volumes, although 
space should be available on the Enabled volumes in the storage group. Tracing 
in detail, we see DBM1 deleting and defining parts of the tablespace in a very 
high speed. If a part of the table space has been deleted, it makes space 
available for the define of the new part, but this space is not used by SMS. 
Our assumption is, that SMS does not update its administration when DBM1 has 
deleted a part and when DBM1 defines a new part of the table space, SMS must 
look for free space based on its 'aged' information. Considering the speed of 
DBM1's delete and define actions, it appears as if space for the entire new 
tablespace must be found as if the old tablespace still is fully present. When 
the Reorg has finished, we have a large amount of space allocated on the 
Quiesced volumes, with ample space for it available on the enabled volumes.

At what moments or at what rate or with which other algorithm does SMS update 
its free space information of the volumes of a storagegroup? I could not find 
it in SMS information.

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Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I seem to recall, that the commds is updates with that interval, to inform 
other members of what this SMS knows.

It intentionally Quiesced to accommodate datasets if the other volumes are full 
and report about this situation. Disnew could cause the allocation to fail and 
we don't want that kind of reporting.

Kees.


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I seem to recall every 15 minutes, but I can't find a reference.

You might try changing the volume to DISNEW instead of QUIESCE. 

snip
Do you have an answer to the question: how often does SMS updates its 
administration?
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Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
David,

Good hint for Interval and Dinterval. I found the following:
INTERVAL(nnn) 
SMS on the command-issuing system is to allow nnn seconds (1 to 999) to pass 
before synchronizing with the other SMS subsystems running on other MVS systems 
in the complex. The default value from SMS initialization is 15 seconds. This 
parameter applies only to the system issuing the command. 
DINTERVAL(nnn) 
Directs SMS to allow nnn seconds (1 to 999) to elapse between reading device 
statistics from a 3990-3 control unit. The default is 150 seconds.

15 seconds is the interval for updating the commds (I suppose) to inform other 
members.
150 seconds is the interval to update the volume statistics.
It seems, that if DBM1 deletes a dataset from a volume, SMS will not be 
informed of the new free space info of that volume.
In this scenario, with large tablespaces, we could need extra space on other 
volumes for the entire tablespace, just because SMS is not aware of the fact 
that DBM1 just made space available for the new allocation.

SRM and lists are not relevant here. All enabled volumes are on the same, well 
performing, DS8800 and therefor in the primary list, so they are all equal, but 
SMS still selects from the secondary list. This can only be the case if all 
volumes in the primary list are above their thresholds. 

We are z/OS 1.13.

I was warned by my DB2 colleague about my wording: i.s.o Reorg I should have 
written Load-Replace. This deletes a part of the table space, allocates it 
again and fills it. So the space can be reused.

Thanks,
Kees.

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Hi Kees,
if you issue a d sms,options command it'll display your current settings and 
dinterval is the one in to look for; it probably has the default setting of 150 
seconds.

However i think your issue is more fundamental.

From dfsms implementing System-managed storage

SMS interfaces with the system resource manager (SRM) to select from the 
eligible volumes in the primary volume list. SRM uses device delays as one of 
the criteria for selection and does not prefer a volume if it is already 
allocated in the jobstep. This is useful for batch processing when the data set 
is accessed immediately after creation. It is, however, not useful for database 
data that is reorganized at off-peak hours. 

Which implies that if you are reorging a tablespace with multiple physical 
datasets, extents or partitions and these are allocated to you reorg job, it 
wont touch the packs they are on even if they have enough freespace.

Info on primary, secondary, tertiary volume lists are in the same manual. I 
believe that quiesced volumes go into the secondary pool.
 
B.T.W what z/os version are you on? I seem to recall that older versions used 
to treat enabled and quiesced volumes the same.   

And finally there is the way your reorgs run.

My underatanding is that the reorg allocates a copy dataset, populates it, 
applies any updates, flips it over to become the true dataset (also renaming 
the original) and if the flip is succesful, then deletes the original.
 
It sounds like you are expecting to reuse space that has been deleted by the 
first successful partition reorg and so on for further reorgs and if the 
allocation remains on the pack until step end, then it wont happen.

hope this is of use.

kind regards,
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Hello group,

We see that new datasets are being allocated by SMS on volumes, which we cannot 
explain. In each storagegroup we have one or more Quiesced volumes, on which 
SMS is supposed to allocate datasets only when all the enabled volumes in the 
storagegroup are filled to their max (migration high percentage). This triggers 
us to have a look at the storagegroup and add space to it.

During DB2 Reorgs we see datasets being allocated on Quiesced volumes, although 
space should be available on the Enabled volumes in the storage group. Tracing 
in detail, we see DBM1 deleting and defining parts of the tablespace in a very 
high speed. If a part of the table space has been deleted, it makes space 
available for the define of the new part, but this space is not used by SMS. 
Our assumption is, that SMS does not update its administration when DBM1 has 
deleted a part and when DBM1 defines a new part of the table space, SMS must 
look for free space based on its 'aged' information. Considering the speed of 
DBM1's delete and define actions, it appears as if space for the entire new 
tablespace must be found as if the old tablespace still is fully present. When 
the Reorg has finished, we have a large 

Re: How often does SMS update its free space information?

2014-04-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Greg, how is this an anser to my question? SMS selects my Quiesced volume and 
it is meant to do this, IF the enabled volumes are full. However the enabled 
volumes are not full, but still it goes to Quiesced volumes, secondary lists, 
spill volumes, spill groups or whatever other choices it might have, and I want 
to know WHY.

Kees.

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We use the Overflow flag on a defined spill group for this type of reporting. 
  

From the Help panel:
Use the OVERFLOW field to specify whether the storage group is an   
overflow storage group, also referred to as Spill storage group.
Overflow storage groups are reserved storage pools to handle periods
of high demand for primary space allocations. Volumes in Overflow   
storage groups will be selected for primary space allocation only when  
all the volumes in non-overflow storage groups can not satisfy the  
allocation amount without exceeding the storage group high threshold.   

So our production storgrp is followed by the spill storgrp in the STORGRP 
routine: 
   SET STORGRP EQ 'PRODSG','SPILLSG'   

When we have data sets allocated on SPILL volumes, we investigate. 

Regards,
Greg 

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snip

It intentionally Quiesced to accommodate datasets if the other volumes are full 
and report about this situation. 

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Re: SMS Question

2014-03-21 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I think I know what you run into: are the errors related to authorization? 
DFDSS has a very irritating habit to do something with the original volser if 
it is online. If you make sure the original volser from the production lpar is 
offline on your sandbox lpar, it should work. Of course supposing that the ACS 
routines will supply a storage group to the dataset to be restored.

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Hello;

I am relatively new to SMS, and rather ignorant (read: uneducated) about how it 
fully works.  I'm learning more and more by reading, but I've hit an issue 
which I can't find a quick solution to using google or finding in the manuals.

We just set up a new SANDBOX system, and set up SMS from scratch.  When we dump 
with ADRDSSU some datasets (from a production lpar) to be restored to the 
Sandbox LPAR, we are getting errors where it is trying to select the volume 
that it came from (which is not online on the Sandbox).  Shouldn't SMS be 
choosing a volume based on the ACS routines of the Sandbox system?

What are we missing?

Thanks in advance.

Thanks;

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Re: how to know who use system symbols

2014-03-20 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I was thinking of one possibility: are all the substitutions done by one 
central module, that replaces a symbol by its value? Then you could trace the 
usage of that module.

Kees.

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As you have probably guessed from the previous responses, there are lots of 
ways the symbols can be used.  Trying to find all the places where they are 
used is going to be complicated.  You even many not have read access to some of 
the datasets where the use appears.

One possibility, which I DO NOT recommend, would be to change the value of a 
symbol you are interested in to one that is invalid in the context it is used.  
For example, if the symbol is used in a DSN, change its value to !JCLERR!.  
Then sit back and wait for the howls from upset users.  But beware; doing this 
could cause your system to not IPL.

Perhaps if you described why you want to know and precisely what type of info 
you need, someone could suggest an alternate approach.

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Re: Can we logon to TSO witout having TN3270 up ?

2014-03-17 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I used TSO all my life without TN3270, until 2 years ago.

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Answering to the subject question: yes.
How? Some examples:
- You connect via SNA
- You connect via OSA-ICC, local (channel attached) 3174, or 2074, or VISARA or 
other controller.



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Re: Can we logon to TSO witout having TN3270 up ?

2014-03-17 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
1. that's what I meant: you only need tn3270 if you want to do TSO from IP 
devices. And 2 years ago, someone decided that I needed that.
2. well, all my life is not exactly correct, the first 18 years I managed 
without. From then at school we had a BASIC based HP2000 system, with Time 
Sharing (which was Optional, you could also run a kind of batch). Then I got a 
job on a 370/158, with TSO and never have been without it anymore.

Kees.

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W dniu 2014-03-17 09:24, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM pisze:
 I used TSO all my life without TN3270, until 2 years ago.
1. Before z/OS 1.9 (AFAIR) separate started task for TN3270 was optional. So it 
was enough to start TCPIP. Of course non-IP connections still work without 
TN3270 and without TCPIP.
2. all my life - well, I started using TSO rather late, so more than half of 
my life I spent without TSO ;-)

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Re: Can we logon to TSO witout having TN3270 up ?

2014-03-17 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Regarding:
Once you have the READY prompt you *ARE* logged on to TSO.

I think this points out a misconception about mainframes from people that are 
used to work with *nix systems.

The question in this thread was:  (I always thought that TN3270 was 
pre-requisite for anybody) to logon via TSO
I remember a question in another tread: How do I logon to the mainframe?

The big difference to notice is:
You logon to a *nix system via Telnet or so.
You don't logon to a mainframe. You logon to an application on a mainframe. So, 
you don't logon *via* TSO, you logon *to* TSO.

Maybe this helps in terminology misunderstandings.

Kees.



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Rephrasing:



TN3270 is merely TCPIP on one side and VTAM/SNA on the other...

TN3270 receives TCPIP requests on one side and translates to VTAM/SNA on the 
other. (BTW, VTAM also supports BISYNC).



Other points:



Once you have the READY prompt you *ARE* logged on to TSO.


TELNET (dnsname or ip addr) invokes a TCPIP connection to the target, thus 
would require a TELNET or TN3270 server on the target.
TN3270 used to be a part of the TCP/IP address space, but was moved (mandatory) 
to a separate address space circa z/OS 1.9.





snip

VTAM is the pre-req, not TN3270.



It depends on the method of *TERMINAL* attachment. If via VTAM, TN3270

is not needed for anything/



TN3270 is merely TCPIP on one side and SNA on the other...



VTAM?  SNA?  I don't know the distinction.



And no one has mentioned that it's possible to log on to TSO (the posed 
question) at the READY prompt with TELNET, but without TN3270. (Or is TN3270 
part of the TELNET daemon

nowadays?)

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Re: Locate unit address of a NON SMS volume using ISMF

2014-03-14 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
You can do this with the command: D U,VOL=volser

Kees.

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We had an migration from EMC to IBM DS8800 last year , and ofcourse the
device addresses had changed . And we missed to document mapping unit
address for some of the volumes .Now , We know the volser , but not sure
of their corresponding unit address . I am just trying to find the unit
address for those volumes which are currently offline to our system . Is
there a way i can find the unit address using ISMF ?

Any kind of help would be highly appreciated .

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Re: Locate unit address of a NON SMS volume using ISMF

2014-03-14 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Correct, and ISMF will not help you either with offline volumes.

Kees.

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Yes . But the device is offline . I thought D U,VOLSER would not return
status of offline devices .




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 You can do this with the command: D U,VOL=volser

 Kees.

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 We had an migration from EMC to IBM DS8800 last year , and ofcourse 
 the device addresses had changed . And we missed to document mapping 
 unit address for some of the volumes .Now , We know the volser , but 
 not sure of their corresponding unit address . I am just trying to 
 find the unit address for those volumes which are currently offline to

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 Any kind of help would be highly appreciated .

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Re: Locate unit address of a NON SMS volume using ISMF

2014-03-14 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
You can use the ICKDSF ANALYZE command on offline volumes. It will
display the volser of the volume.
// EXEC PGM=ICKDSF  
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*  
 ANALYZE UNITADDRESS(3C01) NODRIVETEST  

Generates lots of information, o.a.:

ICK03091I EXISTING VOLUME SERIAL READ = JSYSV0 

Kees.


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Yes . But the device is offline . I thought D U,VOLSER would not return
status of offline devices .




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 You can do this with the command: D U,VOL=volser

 Kees.

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 Subject: Locate unit address of a NON SMS volume using ISMF

 We had an migration from EMC to IBM DS8800 last year , and ofcourse 
 the device addresses had changed . And we missed to document mapping 
 unit address for some of the volumes .Now , We know the volser , but 
 not sure of their corresponding unit address . I am just trying to 
 find the unit address for those volumes which are currently offline to

 our system . Is there a way i can find the unit address using ISMF ?

 Any kind of help would be highly appreciated .

 Regards,
 Baby

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Re: Locate unit address of a NON SMS volume using ISMF

2014-03-14 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Ok, but you know which offline addresses you want to check, so you can
make a list of the volsers of all those offline devices.

Kees.

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Subject: Re: Locate unit address of a NON SMS volume using ISMF

Kees ,

Thanks for the inputs . Actually , what i need is just the opposite
...I need to find out the unit address by using the volser information
(for an offline volume)

Looking at the parameters of ANALYZE command , it seems that unit
address is mandatory for an offline volume .


You can use the ICKDSF ANALYZE command on offline volumes. It will
display the volser of the volume.
// EXEC PGM=ICKDSF
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 ANALYZE UNITADDRESS(3C01) NODRIVETEST

Generates lots of information, o.a.:

ICK03091I EXISTING VOLUME SERIAL READ = JSYSV0


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM 
kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:

 You can use the ICKDSF ANALYZE command on offline volumes. It will 
 display the volser of the volume.
 // EXEC PGM=ICKDSF
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
  ANALYZE UNITADDRESS(3C01) NODRIVETEST

 Generates lots of information, o.a.:

 ICK03091I EXISTING VOLUME SERIAL READ = JSYSV0

 Kees.


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 On Behalf Of baby eklavya
 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 09:28
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 Subject: Re: Locate unit address of a NON SMS volume using ISMF

 Yes . But the device is offline . I thought D U,VOLSER would not 
 return status of offline devices .




 On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM  
 kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:

  You can do this with the command: D U,VOL=volser
 
  Kees.
 
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  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Locate unit address of a NON SMS volume using ISMF
 
  We had an migration from EMC to IBM DS8800 last year , and ofcourse 
  the device addresses had changed . And we missed to document mapping

  unit address for some of the volumes .Now , We know the volser , but

  not sure of their corresponding unit address . I am just trying to 
  find the unit address for those volumes which are currently offline 
  to

  our system . Is there a way i can find the unit address using ISMF ?
 
  Any kind of help would be highly appreciated .
 
  Regards,
  Baby
 
  
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Well, I'd say: why not? LLA is fully transparent to applications.

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Hi,

 

When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is the
situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 does
take into consideration LLA managed datasets

Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2

 

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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I don't know, but I wonder why you have reasons to suppose it will be
different for LLA managed libraries.

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For LLA managed dataset would BLDL 0 return a zero return code.

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 On Mar 10, 2014, at 3:34 AM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:
 
 Well, I'd say: why not? LLA is fully transparent to applications.
 
 Kees.
 
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 Subject: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1
 
 Hi,
 
 
 
 When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is the

 situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 
 does take into consideration LLA managed datasets
 
 Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2
 
 
 
 thhanks   
 
 
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Possibly, but I am not user.

Kees.

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If I have the csvllix1 exit installed
The actual load de= would drive it
Not the BLDL right ?

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 On Mar 10, 2014, at 5:06 AM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:
 
 I don't know, but I wonder why you have reasons to suppose it will be 
 different for LLA managed libraries.
 
 Kees.
 
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 On Behalf Of Micheal Butz
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 09:55
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 Subject: Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1
 
 For LLA managed dataset would BLDL 0 return a zero return code.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 10, 2014, at 3:34 AM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
 kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:
 
 Well, I'd say: why not? LLA is fully transparent to applications.
 
 Kees.
 
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 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 00:07
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 Subject: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1
 
 Hi,
 
 
 
 When Doing BLDL 0 the system searches task step and joblib what is 
 the
 
 situation if the dataset is LLA managed in addition would if BLDL 0 
 does take into consideration LLA managed datasets
 
 Would that drive the LLA exits CSVLLIX1and 2
 
 
 
 thhanks   
 
 
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Re: BLDL 0 and LLA managed datasets/CSVLLIX1

2014-03-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Can you explain, what you are looking for? 
As I said before, LLA is transparent to the application, so you will
probably not see it at all. There are so many things that are LLA
related, like: was the directory cached / was the library VLF eligible /
did the module come from VLF etc. etc. which are all hidden because of
the LLA transparency.

Kees.

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The concatenation number say its LLA managed ? 

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 On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
 
 Binyamin Dissen wrote:
 
 Hmmm, after looking at this thread, I think we all need a way for
BLDL [ and other module fetch macros ] to tell us exactly *where* that
mod came from. Could be helpful for diagnosis.
 
 The BLDL concatenation number does that.
 
 Thanks! Very kind of you.
 
 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht
 
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Re: SSD in DFSMS

2014-03-05 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I remembered having heard or read this and the first Google hit was:
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.idas200%2Fs2082.htm
Is this what you are looking for?

kees.

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Yes, I mean Solid State Drive.



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W dniu 2014-03-06 02:35, Lizette Koehler pisze:
 Are you asking about solid state dasd or some other item?

 Lizette


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 z/OS 1.13

 AFAIK, IBM provides some interface that allow to choose SSD in DFSMS
 routines.
 Actually the only information I found is MSR parameter in Storage Class. I
 would
 like to read more about it, maybe some examples of implementations.

 Where can I find more information about DFSMS and SSD ?

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Re: SYSLOG messages Frozen

2014-02-12 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Yes:
V SYSLOG,HARDCPY,followed by the parameter in CONSOLxx for the HARDCOPY
device.
Similarly:
V OPERLOG,HARDCPY

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Hello Group,

One of our LPAR's SYSLOG messages are not being updated. I see there are
no contentions in Console. I checked in /etc/rc to see if the SYSLOG is
started as BPX, but thats commented.

Is there a way to restart the SYSLOG address space

Peter

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Re: SYSLOG messages Frozen

2014-02-12 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Is your SYSLOG or your OPERLOG not functioning?
You can use V SYSLOG,HARDCPY (or OPERLOG)
The V command accepts some parameters from the HARDCOPY statement, like
ROUTCDE and CMDLEVEL, check the manual.

Kees

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Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:58
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Hi,

I tried giving : V OPERLOG,HARDCPY,HARDCOPY
DEVNUM(SYSLOG,OPERLOG),ROUTCODE(ALL),CMDLEVEL(CMDS)

but it says its a invalid keyword


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM 
kees.verno...@klm.com wrote:

 Yes:
 V SYSLOG,HARDCPY,followed by the parameter in CONSOLxx for the 
 HARDCOPY device.
 Similarly:
 V OPERLOG,HARDCPY

 Kees.

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 Hello Group,

 One of our LPAR's SYSLOG messages are not being updated. I see there 
 are no contentions in Console. I checked in /etc/rc to see if the 
 SYSLOG is started as BPX, but thats commented.

 Is there a way to restart the SYSLOG address space

 Peter

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Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-12 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
A similar one: 
How to determine a leap year:
Q1:Is year a multiple of 4?
If yes: Q2: is year a multiple of 100?
If yes: Q3: is year a multiple of 400?
If yes: it is a leapyear.
(skipping the 'If No' branches).

Q2 and Q3 will start making sense for the first time in the history of
computer programming in the year 2100. Until then Q1 would have been
sufficient.
How much power has been put into executing instructions to answer Q2 and
Q3? 
If I only had a Euro for each program that has this code and will not
live until 2100...

Kees.

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On 2/12/2014 8:50 AM, Jim Thomas wrote:

   XRR14,R14
   XRR15,R15
   L R1,=AL4(WORKAREA)
   MVCL  R0,R14

Minor quibble - when the from length is zero, the from register is never
referenced nor inspected, so the XR R14,R14 is extraneous. (If I had a
dollar for every time I've seen this, I could retire g).

Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, Vermont

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Re: Sysplex Common Time Source

2014-02-10 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
I heard only the M$ variation.

Kees.

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On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 20:27:09 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote:

Shane opines:
Bloody typical.

I posit that my reply was detailed, helpful, truthful, and complete. 
I'll leave it at that.

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Timothy Sipples
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E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com

Reminds me of an old joke, (of which there are several variations)::-)

A small, 14-seat plane is circling for a landing in Atlanta.  It's totally 
fogged in, zero visibility, and suddenly there's a small electrical fire in the 
cockpit which disables all of the instruments and the radio.  The pilot 
continues circling, totally lost, when suddenly he finds himself flying next to 
a tall office building.

He rolls down the window (this particular airplane happens to have roll-down 
windows) and yells to a person inside the building, Where are we?

The person responds In an airplane!

The pilot then banks sharply to the right, circles twice, and makes a perfect 
landing at Atlanta International.

As the passengers emerge, shaken but unhurt, one of them says to the pilot, 
I'm certainly glad you were able to land safely, but I don't understand how 
the response you got was any use.

Simple, responded the pilot.  I got an answer that was completely accurate 
and totally irrelevant to my problem, so I knew it had to be the IBM building.

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Re: Sysplex Common Time Source

2014-02-07 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
As I recall it, all time references in a sysplex must be within a certain 
tolerance and this is ensured by requiring them to be connected to a single 
time source (ETR ID), not 2 sources that are equal within a certain tolerance.

Kees.

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ISTR that all time references in a SYSPLEX must be within a certain tolerance 
(I have no recollection of the actual value). 
If the local time source exceeded this tolerance, the ETR (STP/9037) would 
guide them to the same value, or failing that , remove the system from the plex.

The act of syncing the STP and the 9037 to the same time ETR might/might not 
provide sufficient accuracy.

HTH,

snip
That was what we originally though too, but our local IBM support 
person told us we couldn't. Thinking further about configuration 
activities to migrate to mixed CTN mode, I'm not seeing how on the non 
STP capable processor we're going to be able to set the name of the 
mixed CTN, since it isn't going to have the STP tab for that CEC,

I'm not sure that that matters. IIRC, the requirement is that all systems in 
the sysplex get their time from the same source. As long as the z10 gets it 
from the timers, and there's another CEC in the CTN getting it from the same 
timers and acting as the primary time server for the CTN, I believe that would 
work. 

z10 - timer
zEC12 - timer
 | Primary time server
\/ STP
other STP CECs

Before STP, there was no STP tab on the HMC and the CECs were able to 
participate in the sysplex by virtue of using the same timer. 

I *think* the migration would be to make the time source the timer connected to 
one zEC12, make that the PTS, then add the z10 pointing to the timer.

But I haven't read the fine manuals for some time, and it seems like the PTS 
becomes a sinle point of failure, unless at least one other machine in the CTS 
has a timer connection too. The point about the mixed mode CTN being envisioned 
as a fall-back situation, not an expected long-term situation is also good one. 
And if IBM is telling you no, it's hard to argue that you'd want to try to do 
it. 
Scott
/snip


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Re: System Symbols Question

2014-01-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
If PL/I does this, it will probably be well understood by PL/I
programmers, but maybe not by others. Rexx has its own way, which will
probably be well understood by Rexx programmers, but maybe not by
others. 
System Symbol coders may belong to one or both of the above groups or to
none of them. So in this case it is safest to assume nothing and apply
the rules strictly, i.e. assign correctly or abend.

Kees.

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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:47
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There is now long experience with the PL/I convention that assigns a
source string that is longer than the [maximal allocated or declared]
length of the target string with 1) truncation on the right and 2)
silently.

It works well, at least where it is understood.  Complaints about it
among PL/I programmers have not occurred with any interesting frequency.

I am happy that Peter Relson notes that the adoption of just this
convention is being considered for system symbols.

About Peter's other reactions to my posts I have only one comment.

I am a sworn enemy of the C nul-delimited string of conceptually
unlimited length .

I am not an enemy but rather a friend of the halfword [or, in principle,
fullword] current-length prefixed, i.e., PL/I character varying, string,
that may have any length L in the interval 0 = L = X, where X is the
allocated or declared maximal length and for halfword prefixes X = 2^15
- 1 = 32767.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: System Symbols Question

2014-01-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Ok, I interpreted your text as asking our opinion on this way of
implementation. Now I understand that is was a statement about how it's
gonna work (whether we like it or not).

Kees.

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I would much favor a convention that reports the truncation as an
error.
Then it's up to the caller to handle or ignore it.

I don't disagree with your preference, but you are talking about
changing thousands or millions of lines of code, and likely creating
significant incompatibilities.

Ain't gonna happen.

The reality is that the choices lie between
- changing nothing and
- implementing what many customers (whether they voice their opinions on
IBM-Main or not) have asked us for, namely to give them the rope and
leave it to them to avoid doing something that hurts. 

And if a customer does not want to take advantage of this functionality,
nothing prevents them from avoiding it.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Resistance to Java.

2014-01-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Since us technicians don't see the benefits, they must be non-technical, and 
will probably be marketing...

Kees.

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+1 for Martins blog post, which is excellent.

Having said that, the whole zIIP concept is baroque from root to branch. 
Why couldn't IBM have come up with something much simpler?

On 23/01/2014 8:29 PM, Scott Chapman wrote:
 I think that's a better overview of the issue Martin, because you bring out 
 the important fact that z/OS doesn't forget about how to prioritize work just 
 because it's on a specialty engine. It's probably would also be a similarly 
 good rule of thumb that you shouldn't let your GPs get over 50% busy with the 
 most important system-related work. And having more dispatchable CPUs than 
 less has been better in my experience.

 One small point though relative to your blog post: each DDF transaction 
 actually now creates two enclaves: an indepedent enclave and a work-dependent 
 enclave. It seems that the work-dependent enclave runs only on the GCP and 
 does 40% of the work, while the independent enclave runs 100% on the zIIP and 
 does 60% of the work. But it does appear from the doc and data that work 
 dependent enclave CPU time is captured in the indepedent enclave CPU time 
 buckets, which makes sense.

 Scott

 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:46:18 +, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com 
 wrote:

 I'm also talking about this. In the final throes of having a 
 presentation I aim to put on Slideshare (and give at any suitable venue).

 The message is important: DB2 V10 changes the way we view zIIP capacity.
 The other message is important: zIIP Capacity Planning IS very feasible.

 And at the risk of annoying people with blatant self promotion :-) see:

 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry
 /ziip_address_space_instrumentation?lang=en

 Cheers, Martin

 Martin Packer,
 zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center 
 of Excellence, IBM

 +44-7802-245-584

 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

 Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
 Blog:
 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacke
 r



 From:   Norbert Friemel nf.ibmm...@web.de
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 Date:   23/01/2014 09:01
 Subject:Re: Resistance to Java.
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu



 On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:59:23 +0800, David Crayford wrote:

 On 22/01/2014 11:53 PM, Skip Robinson wrote:
 IBM is currently warning customers that over-using ZIIPs may lead 
 to serious performance problems because of the way z/OS manages 
 them
 vs.
 the way it manages general purpose CPs.
 Can you supply a link wrt that information?

 Google found:
 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/22586cb0-8817-4d2c
 -ae74-0ddcc2a409bc/entry/december_17_2012_6_07_am3?lang=en


 http://ibmdatamag.com/2013/04/performance-and-capacity-considerations
 -for-ziip-engines/


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Re: System Symbols Question

2014-01-23 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM


-Original Message-
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Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:24
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Subject: Re: System Symbols Question

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:35:19 -0500, Peter Relson wrote:

Having said that, we are considering a convention under which symbol 
values can be longer than the symbol name, with the user's 
understanding that any truncation that results may be ignored.
 
I would much favor a convention that reports the truncation as an error.
Then it's up to the caller to handle or ignore it.

-- gil


I second that. Assignments and therefor truncations can occur anywhere at any 
time (IEASYM at IPL, or with SYMUPDTE during the life of the system). I rather 
have a couple of abends if I do something wrong, than time consuming searches 
for who set the symbol and had it truncated during the previous weeks of the 
life of the system.

Comparing SAS: each new release checks the rules more strictly and each new 
release generates a numbers of RC  0, where the previous gave RC=0. This 
generates a lot of work each time and I wished they had not been so tolerant 
from the beginning.

Kees.


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Re: System Symbols Question

2014-01-21 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Yes, I can. Can you RTFM?

SYMDEF(symbol='sub-text') 

'sub-text' is the substitution text for the system symbol to be defined. The 
rules for specifying sub-text are:
For 'sub-text', there are no restrictions on the types of characters that can 
be used.

Kees.


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Can you set up a symbol that has a period in it? Example:
 
SYMDEF(IP1='121.122')


Thanks,

Mark Regan


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Re: ISMF QUESTIONS - VIEWING STORAGE GROUP STATS

2014-01-20 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Neil, 

I responsed.
It's Mbytes, as your calculation proves mathematically: x kB/1000 = y MB.

Kees.


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Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTIONS - VIEWING STORAGE GROUP STATS

Caveat:  I get the daily digest so there is a lag between responses...

Willie:  I didn't see any response so...  Panel values are in Kb. (F1 Help) 
18061 / 24360 = 0.74... so correct.  30,051 cyl * (15 trks * 55k bytes / 1,000) 
= 24792 Kb so (approx.) correct.

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From: willie bunter [mailto:wi...@yah...com]
Sent: January 17, 2014 09:44
Subject: Re: ISMF QUESTIONS - VIEWING STORAGE GROUP STATS

[snip] Last question.  Are the stats posted by ISMF reliable?  It is because 
this particular storage group has TOTAL SPACE 24360  FREE SPACE 18061 AND %FREE 
SPACE 74.  That doesn't sound right  This pool has 3 mod 9 each has 10017 
cylinders for a total of 30051 cylinders.
[snip]

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