Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Alan Hein]

I have been reading the manuals and I have not understanding how LPR/LPD
relates to NPF.
How does the LPR/LPD environment relate to the NPF environment. In relation
to the JES2 capture point.
Ultimately I want the following to end up on a network printer: //SYSUT2
DD  SYSOUT=B,DEST=U300
I do have output from the above DD making it to the NPF VSAM QUEUE dataset
in a Z status.
I have the LPSERVE started task running, but I do not think that I have the
LPDATA configured correctly.
I assume to accomplish getting my above output to a network printer, then I
would configure a REMOTE service?
If so, is the REMOTE service associated with a value in the NPF ROUTING
VSAM dataset? And if so, which values both in the LPDATA and the ROUTING?

Thank You!
Alan




From:   Dana Mitchell <mitchd...@gmail.com>
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Date:   12/14/2017 10:59 AM
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For each NPF printer, I have multiple forms set up with routing records
that point to different PCL exits to control size, and orientation.  It
could easily be done with different destination names too.

Dana

On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:42:53 +, Jesse 1 Robinson
<jesse1.robin...@sce.com> wrote:

>This question has been floated here also. The main concern is that in our
VPS implementation--decades old--the user can control the output format via
printer name. So DEST=prt-name-D will print double-sided; prt-name-L will
print landscape; and so on. We have built lots of code to support this
option, and users expect it. Do these other products have some similar
capability?
>

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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[zos reader]

We have more than 4000 printers and due to costing we are planning to
migrate to other..

Thanks all for your inputs..!!!

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017, Longnecker, Dennis <
dennis.longnec...@courts.wa.gov> wrote:

> I did the VPS -> JQP/VVP swap out around 2003.  Have about 1500 printers
> defined in JQP/VVP.
>
> I find the support really good with the JQP and VVP products.  I tried NPF
> first, but the administration would have been really hard for my help desk
> people.
>
> The only reason I did the swap out in the first place was cost.   First it
> was the cost for CPU upgrades, but I am also seeing savings in the yearly
> costs.
>
> Dennis
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Porowski, Kenneth
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:49 AM
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> Subject: Re: [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment
>
> Another vote for MacKinney's JQP.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of John McKown
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>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Carroll, William <
> carro...@grangeinsurance.com> wrote:
>
> > Another vote for NPF.  I have the same exact situation as Dana.  Works
> > well.  We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same
> > devices.  Not one issue for over 2 years.
> >
>
> ​I got NPF working and it did well. However, it was (is still?) hard to
> administer. So hard that the VTAM person (we actually still had SNA 3270
> nodes via Visara controllers) decided that it was unacceptable. We went
> with MacKinney's JQP. It was easier to administer than NPF (but not as easy
> as VPS); reliable (we still use it); and relatively inexpensive.​
>
>
>
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
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Re: [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Longnecker, Dennis]

I did the VPS -> JQP/VVP swap out around 2003.  Have about 1500 printers 
defined in JQP/VVP.

I find the support really good with the JQP and VVP products.  I tried NPF 
first, but the administration would have been really hard for my help desk 
people.

The only reason I did the swap out in the first place was cost.   First it was 
the cost for CPU upgrades, but I am also seeing savings in the yearly costs.

Dennis

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Of Porowski, Kenneth
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:49 AM
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Another vote for MacKinney's JQP.

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Carroll, William < 
carro...@grangeinsurance.com> wrote:

> Another vote for NPF.  I have the same exact situation as Dana.  Works 
> well.  We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same 
> devices.  Not one issue for over 2 years.
>

​I got NPF working and it did well. However, it was (is still?) hard to 
administer. So hard that the VTAM person (we actually still had SNA 3270 nodes 
via Visara controllers) decided that it was unacceptable. We went with 
MacKinney's JQP. It was easier to administer than NPF (but not as easy as VPS); 
reliable (we still use it); and relatively inexpensive.​



>
> Bill
>
>

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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Barkow, Eileen]

I am curious as to why you want to replace VPS with another product, at least 
one which you would have to pay for anyway.
I know that Mckinney has a competing product which is probably cheaper than 
VPS, but
LRS support has always been great (when they get paid on time) and it may not 
be worth the effort to replace it.
 Especially if a lot of customized code has to be written.

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Subject: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Hi,

We are planning to replace LRS VPS Printers to other Vendor product, I am
not aware of other vendor products in Market.

Can you all share your thoughts please.

Thanks..

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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Gilson]

Jesse:

In order to map all the printers are in use from all of 12k defined
in your VPS system you can use a very simple program that comes with the
VPS library that lists all the reports and printers in use but, for make
use of it, you need to record SMF register 6.

I can send you the source code we have used with some modifications
in order to filter by printer names ore sufix name.

I hope it helps you.

Regards,

Gilson Cesar

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Assunto: Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment


Hey Rob

 From: "Jackson, Rob" <rwjack...@firsttennessee.com>
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Not sure whom you were asking, but I can answer for our formerly-VPS,
now-NPF shop.  We have 65 active physical printers, covered by 174
definitions.



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On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:56 AM
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Subject: Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[External Email]

All I want for Xmas is the answer to the question of how many. ;-) We
have over 12K (!) VPS definitions, but...

1. Many of those are multiple entries for the same physical device with
varying format attributes like double-sided, landscape, two-up, etc.
For example, one device I picked at random has 13 entries representing
various attributes.

2. We have added innumerable printers over the decades. I was never
'the VPS guy', but I suspect that very few if any obsolete entries were
deleted.

.
.
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Southern California Edison Company
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On Behalf Of Steve Beaver
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:17 PM
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Subject: (External):Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

How many printers are on your system?  The system I had had 1400
printers

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Sorry for the autocorrect issues


On Dec 14, 2017, at 19:34, Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> wrote:


On 14 December 2017 at 18:18, Jesse 1 Robinson
<jesse1.robin...@sce.com> wrote:
Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products
mentioned together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at
the volume of NPF endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of
us choose a product for a particular purpose and stop window
shopping, never realizing that the landscape is constantly evolving.


There are also several potential solutions to this general problem on
the CBTTAPE site, either on the main "tape" or on the JES2 "mods"
tape. Naturally these are unsupported, and may or may not work on
current levels of JES2, but certainly the price is right. And some of
them are not unsophisticated solutions at all.

Tony H.



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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Warren Brown]

Hey Rob

  From: "Jackson, Rob" <rwjack...@firsttennessee.com>
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment
   
Not sure whom you were asking, but I can answer for our formerly-VPS, now-NPF 
shop.  We have 65 active physical printers, covered by 174 definitions.



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Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:56 AM
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Subject: Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[External Email]

All I want for Xmas is the answer to the question of how many. ;-) We have over 
12K (!) VPS definitions, but...

1. Many of those are multiple entries for the same physical device with varying 
format attributes like double-sided, landscape, two-up, etc. For example, one 
device I picked at random has 13 entries representing various attributes.

2. We have added innumerable printers over the decades. I was never 'the VPS 
guy', but I suspect that very few if any obsolete entries were deleted.

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Steve Beaver
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

How many printers are on your system?  The system I had had 1400 printers

Sent from my iPhone

Sorry for the autocorrect issues

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 19:34, Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> wrote:
>
>> On 14 December 2017 at 18:18, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products mentioned 
>> together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at the volume of NPF 
>> endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of us choose a product for 
>> a particular purpose and stop window shopping, never realizing that the 
>> landscape is constantly evolving.
>
> There are also several potential solutions to this general problem on 
> the CBTTAPE site, either on the main "tape" or on the JES2 "mods"
> tape. Naturally these are unsupported, and may or may not work on 
> current levels of JES2, but certainly the price is right. And some of 
> them are not unsophisticated solutions at all.
>
> Tony H.


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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Jackson, Rob]

Not sure whom you were asking, but I can answer for our formerly-VPS, now-NPF 
shop.  We have 65 active physical printers, covered by 174 definitions.



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Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[External Email]

All I want for Xmas is the answer to the question of how many. ;-) We have over 
12K (!) VPS definitions, but...

1. Many of those are multiple entries for the same physical device with varying 
format attributes like double-sided, landscape, two-up, etc. For example, one 
device I picked at random has 13 entries representing various attributes.

2. We have added innumerable printers over the decades. I was never 'the VPS 
guy', but I suspect that very few if any obsolete entries were deleted.

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com


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Of Steve Beaver
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

How many printers are on your system?  The system I had had 1400 printers

Sent from my iPhone

Sorry for the autocorrect issues

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 19:34, Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> wrote:
>
>> On 14 December 2017 at 18:18, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products mentioned 
>> together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at the volume of NPF 
>> endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of us choose a product for 
>> a particular purpose and stop window shopping, never realizing that the 
>> landscape is constantly evolving.
>
> There are also several potential solutions to this general problem on 
> the CBTTAPE site, either on the main "tape" or on the JES2 "mods"
> tape. Naturally these are unsupported, and may or may not work on 
> current levels of JES2, but certainly the price is right. And some of 
> them are not unsophisticated solutions at all.
>
> Tony H.


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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[PINION, RICHARD W.]

I personally like IP Print Server over NPF.  But it is a cost item, as in not
free as in NPF.

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[External Email]

You should also look at Infoprint Server.  It's a component of z/OS.

I don't know what the LRS VPS definitions look like, but I see another post 
here that mentions 12K definitions.  If you can read those with code, Rexx 
perhaps, and parse them, you could create a text file of pidu create commands 
to create the equivalent definitions for the Printer Inventory.
PIDU = Printer Inventory Definition Utility.

The documentation is in the IBM Knowledge Center.
You can go here:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter
and just search for pidu

or go here to see all the Infoprint Server related books, including in PDF 
format.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.aps/aps.htm


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On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:20 AM, zos reader <zos.rea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We are planning to replace LRS VPS Printers to other Vendor product, I 
> am not aware of other vendor products in Market.
>
> Can you all share your thoughts please.
>
> Thanks..
>
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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Roger Bolan]

You should also look at Infoprint Server.  It's a component of z/OS.

I don't know what the LRS VPS definitions look like, but I see another post
here that mentions 12K definitions.  If you can read those with code, Rexx
perhaps, and parse them, you could create a text file of pidu create
commands to create the equivalent definitions for the Printer Inventory.
PIDU = Printer Inventory Definition Utility.

The documentation is in the IBM Knowledge Center.
You can go here:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter
and just search for pidu

or go here to see all the Infoprint Server related books, including in PDF
format.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.aps/aps.htm


--Roger

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:20 AM, zos reader  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We are planning to replace LRS VPS Printers to other Vendor product, I am
> not aware of other vendor products in Market.
>
> Can you all share your thoughts please.
>
> Thanks..
>
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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Cieri, Anthony]

LRS also provides several PCMD keywords that can reduce the need 
for multiple definitions for the "same" printer. These keywords provide various 
methods of "injecting" printer commands to control pagination, duplex, fonts 
etc. For example:

PCMDSTRT=(FPS13266,FPS13266,),PRINTER COMMANDS AT START  
PCMDEND=(FPS13266,FPS13266), PRINTER COMMANDS AT 
END

Also, VPS user exit 7 (VPSSUE07), if ENABLEed,  is the exit responsible 
for SMF recording. By default, VPS records SMF type 6 records for printer 
activity.

Hth
Tony


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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:05 PM
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LRS provides a report of printer use, if you are collecting the SMF, If you 
don't have 13 months of data then make sure to sample month end, quarter end 
and year end processing dates... if not, you may miss some limited use printers.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com>
wrote:

> All I want for Xmas is the answer to the question of how many. ;-) We 
> have over 12K (!) VPS definitions, but...
>
> 1. Many of those are multiple entries for the same physical device 
> with varying format attributes like double-sided, landscape, two-up, 
> etc. For example, one device I picked at random has 13 entries 
> representing various attributes.
>
> 2. We have added innumerable printers over the decades. I was never 
> 'the VPS guy', but I suspect that very few if any obsolete entries were 
> deleted.
>
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:17 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment
>
> How many printers are on your system?  The system I had had 1400 
> printers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Sorry for the autocorrect issues
>
> > On Dec 14, 2017, at 19:34, Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 14 December 2017 at 18:18, Jesse 1 Robinson 
> >> <jesse1.robin...@sce.com>
> wrote:
> >> Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products
> mentioned together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at the 
> volume of NPF endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of us 
> choose a product for a particular purpose and stop window shopping, 
> never realizing that the landscape is constantly evolving.
> >
> > There are also several potential solutions to this general problem 
> > on the CBTTAPE site, either on the main "tape" or on the JES2 "mods"
> > tape. Naturally these are unsupported, and may or may not work on 
> > current levels of JES2, but certainly the price is right. And some 
> > of them are not unsophisticated solutions at all.
> >
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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Keith Smith]

LRS provides a report of printer use, if you are collecting the SMF, If you
don't have 13 months of data then make sure to sample month end, quarter
end and year end processing dates... if not, you may miss some limited use
printers.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com>
wrote:

> All I want for Xmas is the answer to the question of how many. ;-) We have
> over 12K (!) VPS definitions, but...
>
> 1. Many of those are multiple entries for the same physical device with
> varying format attributes like double-sided, landscape, two-up, etc. For
> example, one device I picked at random has 13 entries representing various
> attributes.
>
> 2. We have added innumerable printers over the decades. I was never 'the
> VPS guy', but I suspect that very few if any obsolete entries were deleted.
>
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> Subject: (External):Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment
>
> How many printers are on your system?  The system I had had 1400 printers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Sorry for the autocorrect issues
>
> > On Dec 14, 2017, at 19:34, Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 14 December 2017 at 18:18, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com>
> wrote:
> >> Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products
> mentioned together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at the
> volume of NPF endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of us choose
> a product for a particular purpose and stop window shopping, never
> realizing that the landscape is constantly evolving.
> >
> > There are also several potential solutions to this general problem on
> > the CBTTAPE site, either on the main "tape" or on the JES2 "mods"
> > tape. Naturally these are unsupported, and may or may not work on
> > current levels of JES2, but certainly the price is right. And some of
> > them are not unsophisticated solutions at all.
> >
> > Tony H.
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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

All I want for Xmas is the answer to the question of how many. ;-) We have over 
12K (!) VPS definitions, but...

1. Many of those are multiple entries for the same physical device with varying 
format attributes like double-sided, landscape, two-up, etc. For example, one 
device I picked at random has 13 entries representing various attributes.

2. We have added innumerable printers over the decades. I was never 'the VPS 
guy', but I suspect that very few if any obsolete entries were deleted. 

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How many printers are on your system?  The system I had had 1400 printers

Sent from my iPhone

Sorry for the autocorrect issues 

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 19:34, Tony Harminc <t...@harminc.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 14 December 2017 at 18:18, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products mentioned 
>> together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at the volume of NPF 
>> endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of us choose a product for 
>> a particular purpose and stop window shopping, never realizing that the 
>> landscape is constantly evolving.
> 
> There are also several potential solutions to this general problem on 
> the CBTTAPE site, either on the main "tape" or on the JES2 "mods"
> tape. Naturally these are unsupported, and may or may not work on 
> current levels of JES2, but certainly the price is right. And some of 
> them are not unsophisticated solutions at all.
> 
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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Wendell Lovewell]

Hello "zos"!

MacKinney Systems' JQP will meet your needs at a very affordable price.  Please 
give us a call!

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How many printers are on your system?  The system I had had 1400 printers

Sent from my iPhone

Sorry for the autocorrect issues 

> On Dec 14, 2017, at 19:34, Tony Harminc  wrote:
> 
>> On 14 December 2017 at 18:18, Jesse 1 Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products mentioned 
>> together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at the volume of NPF 
>> endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of us choose a product for 
>> a particular purpose and stop window shopping, never realizing that the 
>> landscape is constantly evolving.
> 
> There are also several potential solutions to this general problem on
> the CBTTAPE site, either on the main "tape" or on the JES2 "mods"
> tape. Naturally these are unsupported, and may or may not work on
> current levels of JES2, but certainly the price is right. And some of
> them are not unsophisticated solutions at all.
> 
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Thanks for all the responses. I compiled a list of the products mentioned 
together with 'ratings' and comments. I was surprised at the volume of NPF 
endorsements; I didn't even know about it. A lot of us choose a product for a 
particular purpose and stop window shopping, never realizing that the landscape 
is constantly evolving.  

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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Porowski, Kenneth]

MacKinney JQP does.  Each destination has its own setup and multiple 
destinations can point to the same printer.



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This question has been floated here also. The main concern is that in our VPS 
implementation--decades old--the user can control the output format via printer 
name. So DEST=prt-name-D will print double-sided; prt-name-L will print 
landscape; and so on. We have built lots of code to support this option, and 
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Ditto on JQP here at the University of Flordia.

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> Another vote for MacKinney's JQP.

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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Dana Mitchell]

For each NPF printer, I have multiple forms set up with routing records that 
point to different PCL exits to control size, and orientation.  It could easily 
be done with different destination names too.

Dana

On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:42:53 +, Jesse 1 Robinson  
wrote:

>This question has been floated here also. The main concern is that in our VPS 
>implementation--decades old--the user can control the output format via 
>printer name. So DEST=prt-name-D will print double-sided; prt-name-L will 
>print landscape; and so on. We have built lots of code to support this option, 
>and users expect it. Do these other products have some similar capability?  
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This question has been floated here also. The main concern is that in our VPS 
implementation--decades old--the user can control the output format via printer 
name. So DEST=prt-name-D will print double-sided; prt-name-L will print 
landscape; and so on. We have built lots of code to support this option, and 
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Ditto on JQP here at the University of Flordia.

Al Nims
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> Another vote for MacKinney's JQP.

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Ditto on JQP here at the University of Flordia.

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Another handy place to look for competing products

http://www.lookupmainframesoftware.com/



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Another vote for MacKinney's JQP.

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Carroll, William < 
carro...@grangeinsurance.com> wrote:

> Another vote for NPF.  I have the same exact situation as Dana.  Works 
> well.  We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same 
> devices.  Not one issue for over 2 years.
>

​I got NPF working and it did well. However, it was (is still?) hard to 
administer. So hard that the VTAM person (we actually still had SNA 3270 nodes 
via Visara controllers) decided that it was unacceptable. We went with 
MacKinney's JQP. It was easier to administer than NPF (but not as easy as VPS); 
reliable (we still use it); and relatively inexpensive.​



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On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Carroll, William <
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> Another vote for NPF.  I have the same exact situation as Dana.  Works
> well.  We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same
> devices.  Not one issue for over 2 years.
>

​I got NPF working and it did well. However, it was (is still?) hard to
administer. So hard that the VTAM person (we actually still had SNA 3270
nodes via Visara controllers) decided that it was unacceptable. We went
with MacKinney's JQP. It was easier to administer than NPF (but not as easy
as VPS); reliable (we still use it); and relatively inexpensive.​



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Another vote for NPF.  I have the same exact situation as Dana.  Works well.  
We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same devices.  Not 
one issue for over 2 years.

Bill

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Here's another vote for IBM's NPF.  It does indeed work, the only rough bits is 
the sort of un-intuitive way you set up printers and different types of output. 
 Between the bare bones ISPF panels, a slightly altered NPF exit from CBT tape 
to support different forms and seperator pages, and a home written REXX to 
summarize the configuration options, we make do and it does the job for our 
small number of printers.

Dana
 
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 13:58:43 +, Jackson, Rob <rwjack...@firsttennessee.com> 
wrote:

>We successfully replaced VPS with NPF, which is included in CommServer.  It's 
>not quite as robust as VPS, but considering the price, it works beautifully.
>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ibm.com_suppor
>t_knowledgecenter_en_SSLTBW-5F2.2.0_com.ibm.zos.v2r2.halp001_toc.htm=
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Here's another vote for IBM's NPF.  It does indeed work, the only rough bits is 
the sort of un-intuitive way you set up printers and different types of output. 
 Between the bare bones ISPF panels, a slightly altered NPF exit from CBT tape 
to support different forms and seperator pages, and a home written REXX to 
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Dana
 
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>We successfully replaced VPS with NPF, which is included in CommServer.  It's 
>not quite as robust as VPS, but considering the price, it works beautifully.
>
>https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.halp001/toc.htm
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We successfully replaced VPS with NPF, which is included in CommServer.  It's 
not quite as robust as VPS, but considering the price, it works beautifully.

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Hi,

We are planning to replace LRS VPS Printers to other Vendor product, I am not 
aware of other vendor products in Market.

Can you all share your thoughts please.

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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh]

Hi,

Think this vendor has a product too - http://www.syzygyinc.com/SyzSPOOLz.htm

– Vignesh
Mainframe Infrastructure

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Several years back John Anderson started an ISVCOSTS list to help explore these 
types of questions. It has transmogrified into a SHARE offering at 
www.share.org/isvcosts Unfortunately does not accept gmail, hotmail, ISP or 
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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

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Several years back John Anderson started an ISVCOSTS list to help explore these 
types of questions. It has transmogrified into a SHARE offering at 
www.share.org/isvcosts Unfortunately does not accept gmail, hotmail, ISP or 
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In a message dated 12/14/2017 3:20:25 AM Central Standard Time, 
zos.rea...@gmail.com writes:

 
Can you all share your thoughts please.

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Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

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Subject: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Hi,

We are planning to replace LRS VPS Printers to other Vendor product, I am not 
aware of other vendor products in Market.

Can you all share your thoughts please.

Thanks..

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LRS VPS Printer Replacment

[zos reader]

Hi,

We are planning to replace LRS VPS Printers to other Vendor product, I am
not aware of other vendor products in Market.

Can you all share your thoughts please.

Thanks..

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