Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Hi Skip, I much prefer Tom's Vista3270 as well. But at work, there is only Attachmate. Linda Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 10, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson > wrote: > > Tom Brennan is too modest to peddle his product, so I'll do it. Get a copy of > Vista3270. Screen size flexibility is only one of its many virtues. > > . > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > Southern California Edison Company > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-302-7535 Office > robin...@sce.com > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:55 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use > > Barbara - I've been trying to find a way and so far (at least up to > Attachmate release 9.3) have not found a way. > > Jerry Whitteridge > Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage > Albertsons - Safeway Inc. > 925 738 9443 > Corporate Tieline - 89443 > > If you feel in control > you just aren't going fast enough. > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of nitz-ibm > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:48 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use > >> On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:45:48 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >> >> What screen size do you use? > I would love to use the standard 62x162 screensize (and have for the past 7 > years or so), but unfortunately my new employer uses an attachmate extra > emulation that can only do 27x132. Does anyone know if I can fool attachmate > into a larger screensize (like I could with PComm before it offered 62x160) > by editing the parameter file? Having only 27 lines severely limits my > productivity. :-( > > Barbara > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:47:38 +, Mick Graley wrote: > >I wish IBM would enhance ISPF so that it would set the screen mode to >80x24 when I swap to my edit screen and back to 132x27 when I swap >back to SDSF. I don't see that being too big a deal if you're not >actually showing 2 logical screens with a split line on the one >terminal emulator window. > Can't that be selected as DATA mode? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
On 17/03/2016 5:08 AM, Patrick Loftus wrote: Vista 3270 doesn't even have to be installed, either. Once you've installed it on one machine, I've found you can dump the relevant folders onto a USB stick, copy onto the work machine, and just execute the vistaTN3270.exe file. I've not tried running it from a USB stick.you never know, might work. And you can't beat the price, at $30 it's a steal. Tom is literally giving it away, an amazing act of altruism. He could double that price and customers would still bite his hand off! On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:08:16 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: I would not want to get anyone in trouble, but Vista3270 does not require local admin rights. My new laptop came without admin. I could not install a new release of (stupid) Java, but I was able to install Vista. Just saying. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
On 19/03/2016 1:56 AM, nitz-ibm wrote: Hi Barbara, I use Attachmate Extra also. Depending on what I am doing, I use mod 2 (24x80), mod 3 (32x80), mod 4 (43x80), or mod 5 (24x132). It depends de on what I am doing. I also have 12 sessions defined, some with different background colors that I only use for one lpar. Open your session tab and you should be able to set the model number for that session. Depending on your VTAM setup you may also need to use the long longon format for example ~ LOG applid,S3270R4q Since you are getting mod5, you should be able to at least get more lines on your screen. The Attachmate Extra I have been using is very old. Linda, I went to Tom Brannons site and discovered that Vista3270 can be used on a trial basis. Had to do some guessing as to the port to use (different on each system), but I managed to connect to all systems I have to work with. Setting the screen colours to a white background was easy (certainly easier than customizing Attachmate). I showed off Vista3270 to my colleague(s), one of which also downloaded and installed because he needs more lines than Attachmate offers and a wide display. I also made them envious by showing them that the mouse scroll wheel works on 3270! :-) I have used the wheelkeys utility http://wheelkeys.soft112.com/ to map F7/F8 in Extra. Works great. It doesn't work in the newer Reflection. Thanks to Tom Brannon! Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
I totally agree. I've used it since, probably over 15 years now. I just paid for it because our company didn't force us to use theirs. :-) I couldn't be happier with it. I totally recommend it over any I've ever used. /Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: perjantaina 18. maaliskuuta 2016 5.26 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use Hi Skip, I much prefer Tom's Vista3270 as well. But at work, there is only Attachmate. Linda Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 10, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson > wrote: > > Tom Brennan is too modest to peddle his product, so I'll do it. Get a copy of > Vista3270. Screen size flexibility is only one of its many virtues. > > . > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > Southern California Edison Company > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-302-7535 Office > robin...@sce.com > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Hi Barbara, I use Attachmate Extra also. Depending on what I am doing, I use mod 2 (24x80), mod 3 (32x80), mod 4 (43x80), or mod 5 (24x132). It depends de on what I am doing. I also have 12 sessions defined, some with different background colors that I only use for one lpar. Open your session tab and you should be able to set the model number for that session. Depending on your VTAM setup you may also need to use the long longon format for example ~ LOG applid,S3270R4q Since you are getting mod5, you should be able to at least get more lines on your screen. The Attachmate Extra I have been using is very old. HTH, Linda Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:47 AM, nitz-ibm wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:45:48 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >> >> What screen size do you use? > I would love to use the standard 62x162 screensize (and have for the past 7 > years or so), but unfortunately my new employer uses an attachmate extra > emulation that can only do 27x132. Does anyone know if I can fool attachmate > into a larger screensize (like I could with PComm before it offered 62x160) > by editing the parameter file? Having only 27 lines severely limits my > productivity. :-( > > Barbara > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
W dniu 2016-03-17 o 13:27, David Crayford pisze: On 17/03/2016 5:08 AM, Patrick Loftus wrote: Vista 3270 doesn't even have to be installed, either. Once you've installed it on one machine, I've found you can dump the relevant folders onto a USB stick, copy onto the work machine, and just execute the vistaTN3270.exe file. I've not tried running it from a USB stick.you never know, might work. And you can't beat the price, at $30 it's a steal. Tom is literally giving it away, an amazing act of altruism. He could double that price and customers would still bite his hand off! AFAIK Nexus 3270 is even cheaper (and definitely the ...fastest, and the smallest). The cheapest is wc3270 which is windows-compatible clone of x3270. It's free. Of course Vista is realy good stuff! BTW: Once upon a time I've got a licence from Tom ...for free. From the other hand, IBM PCOMM is huge, slow and damn expensive. It's quite good as well, but I wouldn't want to pay for it. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2016 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.955.696 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Hi All, At my old employers we used Eicon Aviva for terminal emulation and it was quite good, I liked it, lots of customization possible and it was fast. At my current employer we use Microfocus Rumba and I'm not very impressed with it! At home I've used X3270 on Linux and WC3270 on Windows to connect to Hercules and they're both OK for the price ;-) Back to the original question though, I like to use a model 2 for editing code (big beefy font and most code is card image anyway) and a model 5 for SDSF. I used to use different MAI sessions with different user IDs and logmodes to achieve this from one terminal session set up as a model 5. It was a bit of a pain switching between the different sessions rather than just using one ISPF session with split screen (I always have logical screen 1 as workplace and logical screen 2 as SDSF, then various other logical screens for DB2, BMC, extra edit sessions etc). I hate using a model 5 with edit on one screen and SDSF on the other as ISPF "windows" the 80 byte edit screen into the 132 chars and it looks horrible for editing code. I never have the split line showing so I always get a full logical screen. I wish IBM would enhance ISPF so that it would set the screen mode to 80x24 when I swap to my edit screen and back to 132x27 when I swap back to SDSF. I don't see that being too big a deal if you're not actually showing 2 logical screens with a split line on the one terminal emulator window. Any thoughts? Cheers, Mick. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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No. That's what I've got set. Cheers, Mick. On 18 March 2016 at 18:09, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:47:38 +, Mick Graley wrote: >> >>I wish IBM would enhance ISPF so that it would set the screen mode to >>80x24 when I swap to my edit screen and back to 132x27 when I swap >>back to SDSF. I don't see that being too big a deal if you're not >>actually showing 2 logical screens with a split line on the one >>terminal emulator window. >> > Can't that be selected as DATA mode? > > -- gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
I have nagged Tom for years over the fire-sale price of Vista. He's very sensitive to what he views as 'price points' for garage-ware--no matter how good it is. Tom does not deal with POs. (Nor, by the way, does Barry Merrill for MXG.) Tom is good about providing gratis copies to students as well as to those who have 'mechanical' problems paying in US dollars. Nevertheless it all adds up. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 6:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use W dniu 2016-03-17 o 14:15, David Crayford pisze: > On 17/03/2016 9:04 PM, R.S. wrote: >>>> >>> >>> And you can't beat the price, at $30 it's a steal. Tom is literally >>> giving it away, an amazing act of altruism. He could double that >>> price and customers would still bite his hand off! >> AFAIK Nexus 3270 is even cheaper (and definitely the ...fastest, and >> the smallest). The cheapest is wc3270 which is windows-compatible >> clone of x3270. It's free. >> Of course Vista is realy good stuff! BTW: Once upon a time I've got a >> licence from Tom ...for free. >> >> From the other hand, IBM PCOMM is huge, slow and damn expensive. It's >> quite good as well, but I wouldn't want to pay for it. > > We have PComm here and I won't use it. It has keyboard lag and the > font's don't scale. POS! It is rarely needed now, but PCOMM supports variety of connection ways, including SNA, coax, etc. Having PCOMM you can set up woriking SNA network between workstations. Keyboard can be *easily* redefined. Fonts are not scalable, but very good shape (for terminal purposes) IMHO. BTW: AFAIR Vista 3270 also do not use scalable fonts. PCOMM also has good features for IND$file transmissions. Last, but not least for me: it is one of very few 3270 emulator which *correctly* support polish characters. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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David Crayford wrote: >> From the other hand, IBM PCOMM is huge, slow and damn expensive. It's quite >> good as well, but I wouldn't want to pay for it. >We have PComm here and I won't use it. >It has keyboard lag Perhaps it is your PC/Laptop operating system which has a very slow key response time or repeat-delay or do you have any assistive software enabled? If it is about transmitting the screen buffer over to z/OS, have a talk with your network team, perhaps there is some bandwidth problem or just heavy traffic. >and the font's don't scale. Ouch. When I used PCOMM years ago, I used a full screen setting and live with whatever font type/size/colours were available. >POS! and a PITA to use it! I never liked the replay of macros, but then it is just me. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Session tab. Linda Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 10, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > > Can anyone tell me where this is? Don't see it under Options, 6. Set screen > characteristics... > > Charles > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:23 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: AW: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use > > >> Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 >> - > and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the z/OS > TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more. > > > > > Not at a terminal now, but there is a setting in "ISPF Settings" wiht > options STD, DATA, MAX which has great influence on how ISPF behaves (it is > called "screen size" or something the like). Have you set this to either > DATA, or my preferred setting MAX. (I don't like the constant resizing whch > happens with DATA). > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
On 17/03/2016 9:04 PM, R.S. wrote: And you can't beat the price, at $30 it's a steal. Tom is literally giving it away, an amazing act of altruism. He could double that price and customers would still bite his hand off! AFAIK Nexus 3270 is even cheaper (and definitely the ...fastest, and the smallest). The cheapest is wc3270 which is windows-compatible clone of x3270. It's free. Of course Vista is realy good stuff! BTW: Once upon a time I've got a licence from Tom ...for free. From the other hand, IBM PCOMM is huge, slow and damn expensive. It's quite good as well, but I wouldn't want to pay for it. We have PComm here and I won't use it. It has keyboard lag and the font's don't scale. POS! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Anyone tried the WEBified ISPF with z/OSMF? Good, bad, indifferent? I was looking at some of Peter van Dyke's Hidden treasures in ISPF. It looks promising with default screen size of 264x160 and up to 4 sessions ala 3290. Guess if first showed up in 1.3. The session I was looking at was S12720 from Winter SHARE 2013-p33. In a message dated 3/17/2016 7:27:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, dcrayf...@gmail.com writes: And you can't beat the price, at $30 it's a steal. Tom is literally giving it away, an amazing act of altruism. He could double that price and customers would still bite his hand off! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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W dniu 2016-03-17 o 14:15, David Crayford pisze: On 17/03/2016 9:04 PM, R.S. wrote: And you can't beat the price, at $30 it's a steal. Tom is literally giving it away, an amazing act of altruism. He could double that price and customers would still bite his hand off! AFAIK Nexus 3270 is even cheaper (and definitely the ...fastest, and the smallest). The cheapest is wc3270 which is windows-compatible clone of x3270. It's free. Of course Vista is realy good stuff! BTW: Once upon a time I've got a licence from Tom ...for free. From the other hand, IBM PCOMM is huge, slow and damn expensive. It's quite good as well, but I wouldn't want to pay for it. We have PComm here and I won't use it. It has keyboard lag and the font's don't scale. POS! It is rarely needed now, but PCOMM supports variety of connection ways, including SNA, coax, etc. Having PCOMM you can set up woriking SNA network between workstations. Keyboard can be *easily* redefined. Fonts are not scalable, but very good shape (for terminal purposes) IMHO. BTW: AFAIR Vista 3270 also do not use scalable fonts. PCOMM also has good features for IND$file transmissions. Last, but not least for me: it is one of very few 3270 emulator which *correctly* support polish characters. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2016 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.955.696 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Well, it works, and is better than I expected, but if you're working all day in ISPF, I'd choose a dedicated 3270 emulator. TN3270 Plus I found was excellent - multiple tabbed sessions in 1 window. That's the only other thing I wish Vista had. On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 17:13:34 -0400, Edward Finnell wrote: >Anyone tried the WEBified ISPF with z/OSMF? Good, bad, indifferent? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 17/03/2016 9:36 PM, R.S. wrote: Last, but not least for me: it is one of very few 3270 emulator which *correctly* support polish characters. Now that's a game changer! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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> Hi Barbara, > > I use Attachmate Extra also. Depending on what I am doing, I use mod 2 > (24x80), mod 3 (32x80), mod 4 (43x80), or mod 5 (24x132). It depends de on > what I am doing. I also have 12 sessions defined, some with different > background colors that I only use for one lpar. Open your session tab and you > should be able to set the model number for that session. Depending on your > VTAM setup you may also need to use the long longon format for example ~ LOG > applid,S3270R4q > > Since you are getting mod5, you should be able to at least get more lines on > your screen. The Attachmate Extra I have been using is very old. Linda, I went to Tom Brannons site and discovered that Vista3270 can be used on a trial basis. Had to do some guessing as to the port to use (different on each system), but I managed to connect to all systems I have to work with. Setting the screen colours to a white background was easy (certainly easier than customizing Attachmate). I showed off Vista3270 to my colleague(s), one of which also downloaded and installed because he needs more lines than Attachmate offers and a wide display. I also made them envious by showing them that the mouse scroll wheel works on 3270! :-) Thanks to Tom Brannon! Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Vista 3270 doesn't even have to be installed, either. Once you've installed it on one machine, I've found you can dump the relevant folders onto a USB stick, copy onto the work machine, and just execute the vistaTN3270.exe file. I've not tried running it from a USB stick.you never know, might work. On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 19:08:16 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >I would not want to get anyone in trouble, but Vista3270 does not require >local admin rights. My new laptop came without admin. I could not install a >new release of (stupid) Java, but I was able to install Vista. Just saying. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Edward Finnell writes:
> LOGMODE D4C32XX3 is a standard VTAM logmode that has the "query terminal
> size" bit turned on. Works for any 3270 screen size whether standard or
> custom.
D4C32XX3 is fine for use with remote SNA LUs (which are how the
Comms Server TN3270E server presents its devices) but for use
with local non-SNA 3270 devices, it leads to errors such as:
22.23.58 IKT117I TSO/VTAM INITIALIZATION FAILED FOR
APPLNAME=TSO0001 , LUNAME=MBSNANET.L702
22.23.58 STC00032 IST663I BIND FAIL REQUEST RECEIVED, SENSE=0821
IST664I REAL OLU=MBSNANET.L702 REAL DLU=MBSNANET.TSOA0001
IST889I SID = C83FAAA75CC26A10
IST314I END
22.23.58 IKT111I APPLNAME=TSO0001 FAILED DUE TO: TCAS CLSDST
PASS FAILURE
22.23.58 IKJ608I LOGON TERMINATED, IKTXINIT, TSO/VTAM
INITIALIZATION ERROR
22.23.58 STC00035 IKT030I TCAS LOGON PROCESS FAILURE PLU=TSOA0001
SLU=MBSNANET.TSOA0001 SENSE= 0821
22.23.58 STC00032 IST804I CLOSE IN PROGRESS FOR TSO0001 OPENED BY
***NA***
22.23.58 STC00032 IST400I TERMINATION IN PROGRESS FOR APPLID TSO0001
22.23.58 STC00032 IST805I VTAM CLOSE COMPLETE FOR TSO0001
Local non-SNA 3270 devices are what are presented by 3270 device
definitions that are
* in z/VM guests ("SPECIAL vdev 3270") for DIALling to z/OS guests
* in aws3274 stanzas (when running under zPDT or RDzUT)
* configured in OSA-ICC (I would think though I haven't tried)
So for anyone using any of those, the logmode to use for them is
D4B32XX3 (i.e. B instead of C as the third character).
An example VTAM definition for such devices is:
LA701 LOCAL CUADDR=701,TERM=3277,DLOGMOD=D4B32XX3,USSTAB=
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I use 90x160 with TSO/ISPF/SDSF and with NetView, of course I'm using 24" monitors when doing so. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:45 AM David Crayford wrote: > We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, > Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the > screen real estate for todays customer. > > I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of > the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work > much better with that model. > I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green > screens like SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of > them. > > What screen size do you use? > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 12/03/2016 4:08 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: Maybe switch out completely different UIs based on the detected screen size? If you detect 24x80, you could use a mode where each screen is like: = Acme Product Interface (snarky mode) === What do you want to do? a) b) c) Type a letter HERE> __ and press ENTER (if you can find it). (sorry David, it's Friday :-) LOL! It doesn't have to be a Friday for moment of mirth ;^) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Robert Prins wrote: On 2016-03-10 13:45, David Crayford wrote: We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the screen real estate for todays customer. I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green screens like SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of them. What screen size do you use? Tom Brennans's Vista tn3270, 62x160, on a full HD screen. Would like to set it even higher, but for some reason that fails. Robert -- Robert AH Prins robert.ah.prins(a)gmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:39:19 +, Robert Prins wrote: >Tom Brennans's Vista tn3270, 62x160, on a full HD screen. Would like to set it >even higher, but for some reason that fails. I assume that you mean that the larger size is rejected by the host, not that Vista fails. I've configured Vista much larger than that, and found that ISPF doesn't allow more than 160 columns. The maximum number of rows that ISPF will support is about 100. I'm not sure of the exact number, but 101 is the number that seems stuck in my head. I'd sure like to see what I can put on a 4K monitor. 3840 x 2160 should allow for a very nice 99 x 160 display, even considerably less than full screen. That is, if my video card can handle it. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Ditto concerning Vista3270. 99x134 for me. Regards, Silvio Camplani zSeries Sr. Analyst, Systems Support Bombardier On Thu, Mar 10, 2016, at 01:04 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > Tom Brennan is too modest to peddle his product, so I'll do it. Get a > copy of Vista3270. Screen size flexibility is only one of its many > virtues. > > . > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Maybe switch out completely different UIs based on the detected screen size? If you detect 24x80, you could use a mode where each screen is like: = Acme Product Interface (snarky mode) === What do you want to do? a) b) c) Type a letter HERE> __ and press ENTER (if you can find it). (sorry David, it's Friday :-) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Robert Prins wrote: > On 2016-03-10 13:45, David Crayford wrote: > >> We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, >> Eclipse >> etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the screen real >> estate >> for todays customer. >> >> I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of >> the >> tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much >> better >> with that model. >> I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green >> screens like >> SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of them. >> >> What screen size do you use? >> > > Tom Brennans's Vista tn3270, 62x160, on a full HD screen. Would like to > set it even higher, but for some reason that fails. > > Robert > -- > Robert AH Prins > robert.ah.prins(a)gmail.com > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 2016-03-10 13:45, David Crayford wrote: We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the screen real estate for todays customer. I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green screens like SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of them. What screen size do you use? Tom Brennans's Vista tn3270, 62x160, on a full HD screen. Would like to set it even higher, but for some reason that fails. Robert -- Robert AH Prins robert.ah.prins(a)gmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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It's Friday AM here, and I've already learned a new word. ;-) . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:50:00 -0800, John Mattson wrote: >I use Mod-5 and have been an advocate for it because most emulators >support it, Most zOS sites just give everyone Mod-2 because that is >the usual emulator default. Everyone I have shown that they can use >Mod-5 is usually delighted with it and never go back. Just being to see >the fully sysout or syslog width convinces most everyone. > Imagine their further delight if they discover OVERSIZE with the ability to see an entire "page". And 133 might allow viewing Carriage Control. Oh! Compromises; my laptop screen size, presbyopia, ... -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 3/11/2016 1:50 AM, Styles, Andy (SD EP zPlatform) wrote: My one bugbear is products that don't support screen sizes greater than 24x80 - someone mentioned Control-M, and that was certainly one of them that causes me issues. Xpediter/TSO is another, I had to raise an issue with Compuware because it corrupted my display with a large screen, so they wrote a fix...which prevents you starting Xpediter if your screens size is bigger than 62x160 - No, that's not what I wanted Compuware! You: Hey Doc, it hurts when I do this. Doc: Don't do that. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:50:00 -0800, John Mattson wrote: >I use Mod-5 and have been an advocate for it because most emulators support >it, Most zOS sites just give everyone Mod-2 because that is the usual >emulator default. Everyone I have shown that they can use Mod-5 is usually >delighted with it and never go back. Just being to see the fully sysout or >syslog width convinces most everyone. > Imagine their further delight if they discover OVERSIZE with the ability to see an entire "page". And 133 might allow viewing Carriage Control. Oh! Compromises; my laptop screen size, presbyopia, ... -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I use Mod-5 and have been an advocate for it because most emulators support it, Most zOS sites just give everyone Mod-2 because that is the usual emulator default. Everyone I have shown that they can use Mod-5 is usually delighted with it and never go back. Just being to see the fully sysout or syslog width convinces most everyone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I have used 84x160 (under PComm) and now we've been migrated to Attachmate's Reflection 2014, I use 82x160, because Attachmate's font handling isn't quite as good as PComm - although it offers a wider choice. Both in PComm and in Reflection, I remove all the window decorations (using the TouchUX and Windows Full Screen in Reflection) and have the Windows task bar auto-hide to give me a very retro 100% full screen mainframe view. Makes the font sizes larger too - I've said to a number of people who comment on the font size that it's no smaller than most Word docs or email messages.. My one bugbear is products that don't support screen sizes greater than 24x80 - someone mentioned Control-M, and that was certainly one of them that causes me issues. Xpediter/TSO is another, I had to raise an issue with Compuware because it corrupted my display with a large screen, so they wrote a fix...which prevents you starting Xpediter if your screens size is bigger than 62x160 - No, that's not what I wanted Compuware! Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: 10 March 2016 13:46 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the screen real estate for todays customer. I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green screens like SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of them. What screen size do you use? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 11/03/2016 1:39 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 3/10/2016 5:45 AM, David Crayford wrote: I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. My 3270 displays are all 68x80 default size and 68x142 alternate size. Why? I just tried that and it's pretty good. I'm gonna use that from now on. I reduced the number of rows on my displays from 90 down to 68 after I started needing glasses to work. Since then, I've been getting larger and larger PC monitors to compensate... I'm having the same problem, I started wearing reading glasses a couple of years ago. IMO, you can't have enough screen real estate. I would love a 39" 4K TV on my desk, and they can cost less than $500 these days http://blog.slickedit.com/2015/01/from-0-to-4k-a-belated-christmas-story/. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Gil, But I get: IKJ56710I INVALID USERID, applid(tso) IKJ56703A REENTER THIS OPERAND - Means your USSTAB has special code for LOGON keyword. It may have support for L APPLID(TSO) LOGON(D4C32XX3) or "=" instead of "()" Regards Bruce -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Using Tom Brennan's Vista TN3270. makes it real easy to select "strange" screen sizes. Mostly I use 60x160 at home, and 52x140 on the smaller monitor at work. I use 70 x 80 for Omegamon MVS Classic screens. As Tom knows, I sometimes have many TN3270 sessions open and hit his screen count limit, which he kindly expanded his limit to 39 screens. Regards Bruce Hewson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 11/03/2016 2:04 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: Tom Brennan is too modest to peddle his product, so I'll do it. Get a copy of Vista3270. Screen size flexibility is only one of its many virtues. We've got a choice of Attachmate Extra/Reflection and PComm where I work. I use Vista3270 which I purchased myself many years ago. It hardly broke the bank at $30. It has many virtues. The very sensible wheel mouse mapping to F7/F8 just makes perfect sense and is a huge productivity boost when scrolling through heaps of syslog. I can't understand why other emulators don't do it too. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use Barbara - I've been trying to find a way and so far (at least up to Attachmate release 9.3) have not found a way. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of nitz-ibm Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:45:48 +0800, David Crayford wrote: What screen size do you use? I would love to use the standard 62x162 screensize (and have for the past 7 years or so), but unfortunately my new employer uses an attachmate extra emulation that can only do 27x132. Does anyone know if I can fool attachmate into a larger screensize (like I could with PComm before it offered 62x160) by editing the parameter file? Having only 27 lines severely limits my productivity. :-( Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:52:55 +1100, Paul Gillis wrote: >I use the -oversize option as -oversize 134x60. >-Original Message- >From: Martin Packer >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:49 AM > >Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 - and >not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the z/OS >TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more. > You've pretty well convinced me that the problem lies at the host, not at the terminal, but so many replies are terminal-oriented. I found: http://planetmvs.com/tn3270/faq.html D4C32XX3 - This is an IBM supplied LOGMODE and should be in your VTAMLIB Here are some sample commands to use at the TCPIP USS screen after changing your TN3270 emulator to use non-standard screen sizes: logon applid(tso) logmode(d4c32xx3) logon applid=tso logmode=d4c32xx3 But I get: IKJ56710I INVALID USERID, applid(tso) IKJ56703A REENTER THIS OPERAND - It seems to be a VTAM configuration option, but I can't find where these are set nor which one is in effect for me. But I shouldn't care because things are working well for me. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
I use the -oversize option as -oversize 134x60.
Cheers,
Paul Gillis
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Isn't there a -model option something like:
-model n
Where n is 2 for mod 2, 3 for mod 3, etc.
I don't have access to x3270 right now but that is what I seem to recall.
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Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 - and
not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the z/OS
TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
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24x80
Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
Atavism ;-)
I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application simply
supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
resolutions caused abend).
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> Pity. I can hope that the new emulation they want to use can handle it. > (Saying in German: Hope dies last - die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt). We're using Reflection from Attachmate (if I'm not totally wrong). This handles any screen dimensions I wanted to use so far. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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The reason I asked about the X3270 version is that there are some
IBM-DYNAMIC bugs have been fixed over time. What error message is TSO
issuing? Does logging on with a LOGMODE of D4C32XX3 make any difference?
Alan
Martin Packer wrote:
(My) RHEL has an ancient X3270 but X3270 is happy with it. It's my TSO
logon that isn't.
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Ah, yeah, sorry about that parameter flip. Which version of X3270 is in
use? It works for me with 3.4ga10.
Alan
Martin Packer wrote:
Thanks. But -oversize 132x43 (not order) got rejection from TSO.
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Try adding the -oversize option as -oversize 43x132.
Alan
Martin Packer wrote:
Yes. And it gives invidious choices: 43 x 80 and 32 x 132. You can
guess I'd want 43 x 132. :-)
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Isn't there a -model option something like:
-model n
Where n is 2 for mod 2, 3 for mod 3, etc.
I don't have access to x3270 right now but that is what I seem to
recall.
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Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80
-
and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the
z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
Cheers, Martin
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From: "R.S."
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 10/03/2016 16:23
Subject:Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
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24x80
Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
Atavism ;-)
I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application
simply
supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
resolutions caused abend).
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Lodz, Poland
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 20:17:11 +, Martin Packer wrote: >Thanks. But -oversize 132x43 (not order) got rejection from TSO. > And yet I'm working with: ZTERMCP5 is: 01047 ZTERMCID is: 01047 ZTERMCS5 is: 00697 ZENVIR is: ISPF 7.2MVS TSO ZOS390RL is: z/OS 02.02.00 ZGUI is: ZISPFOS is: ISPF FOR z/OS 02.02.00 ZLANGis: ZSEQ is: 05411 ZTSICMD is: ISPF ZWSOPSYS is: ZSCREEND is: 0044 ZSCREENW is: 0132 BTW, are there variables that tell: The size of the split, rather than the overall size of the screen? LOGMODE? Others? (Well, yes, RTFM. But which section?) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
(My) RHEL has an ancient X3270 but X3270 is happy with it. It's my TSO
logon that isn't.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
+44-7802-245-584
email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
Blog:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
From: Alan Young
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 10/03/2016 21:04
Subject:Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do
you use
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Ah, yeah, sorry about that parameter flip. Which version of X3270 is in
use? It works for me with 3.4ga10.
Alan
Martin Packer wrote:
> Thanks. But -oversize 132x43 (not order) got rejection from TSO.
>
> Cheers, Martin
>
> Martin Packer,
> zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
> Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
>
> +44-7802-245-584
>
> email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
>
> Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
> Blog:
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
>
>
>
> From: Alan Young
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 10/03/2016 20:07
> Subject:Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do
> you use
> Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>
>
>
> Try adding the -oversize option as -oversize 43x132.
>
> Alan
>
> Martin Packer wrote:
>
>> Yes. And it gives invidious choices: 43 x 80 and 32 x 132. You can
>> guess I'd want 43 x 132. :-)
>>
>> Cheers, Martin
>>
>> Martin Packer,
>> zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
>> Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
>>
>> +44-7802-245-584
>>
>> email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
>>
>> Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
>> Blog:
>> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)"
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Date: 10/03/2016 17:04
>> Subject:Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do
>> you use
>> Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>>
>>
>>
>> Isn't there a -model option something like:
>>
>> -model n
>>
>> Where n is 2 for mod 2, 3 for mod 3, etc.
>>
>> I don't have access to x3270 right now but that is what I seem to
>>
> recall.
>
>>
>
--
>
>> Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor)
>> Mainframe Systems Programmer
>> Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10)
>> VA OI&T Service Delivery & Engineering
>> Office: 512-326-6173
>> Cell: 925-348-0237
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
On
>>
>
>
>> Behalf Of Martin Packer
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:49 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
>>
>> Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80
-
>>
>
>
>> and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the
>> z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
>>
>> Cheers, Martin
>>
>> Martin Packer,
>> zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems
>> Performance, IBM
>>
>> +44-7802-245-584
>>
>> email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
>>
>> Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
>> Blog:
>> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "R.S."
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Date: 10/03/2016 16:23
>> Subject:Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
>> Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>>
>>
>>
>> 24x80
>>
>> Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
>> And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
>> Atavism ;-)
>> I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
>>
>> BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application
>>
> simply
>
>> supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
>> resolutions caused abend).
>>
>> --
>> Radoslaw Skorupka
>> Lodz, Poland
>>
>>
>>
>&g
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Ah, yeah, sorry about that parameter flip. Which version of X3270 is in
use? It works for me with 3.4ga10.
Alan
Martin Packer wrote:
Thanks. But -oversize 132x43 (not order) got rejection from TSO.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
+44-7802-245-584
email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
Blog:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
From: Alan Young
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 10/03/2016 20:07
Subject:Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do
you use
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Try adding the -oversize option as -oversize 43x132.
Alan
Martin Packer wrote:
Yes. And it gives invidious choices: 43 x 80 and 32 x 132. You can
guess I'd want 43 x 132. :-)
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
+44-7802-245-584
email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
Blog:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)"
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 10/03/2016 17:04
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do
you use
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Isn't there a -model option something like:
-model n
Where n is 2 for mod 2, 3 for mod 3, etc.
I don't have access to x3270 right now but that is what I seem to
recall.
--
Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor)
Mainframe Systems Programmer
Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10)
VA OI&T Service Delivery & Engineering
Office: 512-326-6173
Cell: 925-348-0237
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Martin Packer
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 -
and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the
z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems
Performance, IBM
+44-7802-245-584
email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
Blog:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
From: "R.S."
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 10/03/2016 16:23
Subject:Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
24x80
Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
Atavism ;-)
I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application
simply
supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
resolutions caused abend).
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
62x160 using Tom Brennan's Vista 3270.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Martin Packer
wrote:
> Thanks. But -oversize 132x43 (not order) got rejection from TSO.
>
> Cheers, Martin
>
> Martin Packer,
> zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
> Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
>
> +44-7802-245-584
>
> email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
>
> Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
> Blog:
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
>
>
>
> From: Alan Young
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 10/03/2016 20:07
> Subject:Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do
> you use
> Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>
>
>
> Try adding the -oversize option as -oversize 43x132.
>
> Alan
>
> Martin Packer wrote:
> > Yes. And it gives invidious choices: 43 x 80 and 32 x 132. You can
> > guess I'd want 43 x 132. :-)
> >
> > Cheers, Martin
> >
> > Martin Packer,
> > zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
> > Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
> >
> > +44-7802-245-584
> >
> > email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
> >
> > Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
> > Blog:
> > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)"
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: 10/03/2016 17:04
> > Subject:Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do
> > you use
> > Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> >
> >
> >
> > Isn't there a -model option something like:
> >
> > -model n
> >
> > Where n is 2 for mod 2, 3 for mod 3, etc.
> >
> > I don't have access to x3270 right now but that is what I seem to
> recall.
> >
> >
> --
> > Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor)
> > Mainframe Systems Programmer
> > Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10)
> > VA OI&T Service Delivery & Engineering
> > Office: 512-326-6173
> > Cell: 925-348-0237
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
>
> > Behalf Of Martin Packer
> > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:49 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
> >
> > Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 -
>
> > and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the
> > z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
> >
> > Cheers, Martin
> >
> > Martin Packer,
> > zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems
> > Performance, IBM
> >
> > +44-7802-245-584
> >
> > email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
> >
> > Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
> > Blog:
> > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "R.S."
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: 10/03/2016 16:23
> > Subject:Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
> > Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> >
> >
> >
> > 24x80
> >
> > Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
> > And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
> > Atavism ;-)
> > I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
> >
> > BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application
> simply
> > supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
> > resolutions caused abend).
> >
> > --
> > Radoslaw Skorupka
> > Lodz, Poland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku
> > przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być
> > jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie
> jesteś
> >
> > adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej
> > przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie,
> kopiowanie,
> >
> > rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie
> > zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomoś
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Thanks. But -oversize 132x43 (not order) got rejection from TSO.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
+44-7802-245-584
email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
Blog:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
From: Alan Young
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 10/03/2016 20:07
Subject:Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do
you use
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Try adding the -oversize option as -oversize 43x132.
Alan
Martin Packer wrote:
> Yes. And it gives invidious choices: 43 x 80 and 32 x 132. You can
> guess I'd want 43 x 132. :-)
>
> Cheers, Martin
>
> Martin Packer,
> zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
> Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
>
> +44-7802-245-584
>
> email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
>
> Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
> Blog:
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
>
>
>
> From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)"
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 10/03/2016 17:04
> Subject:Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do
> you use
> Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>
>
>
> Isn't there a -model option something like:
>
> -model n
>
> Where n is 2 for mod 2, 3 for mod 3, etc.
>
> I don't have access to x3270 right now but that is what I seem to
recall.
>
>
--
> Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor)
> Mainframe Systems Programmer
> Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10)
> VA OI&T Service Delivery & Engineering
> Office: 512-326-6173
> Cell: 925-348-0237
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Martin Packer
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:49 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
>
> Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 -
> and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the
> z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
>
> Cheers, Martin
>
> Martin Packer,
> zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems
> Performance, IBM
>
> +44-7802-245-584
>
> email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
>
> Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
> Blog:
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
>
>
>
> From: "R.S."
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 10/03/2016 16:23
> Subject:Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
> Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>
>
>
> 24x80
>
> Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
> And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
> Atavism ;-)
> I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
>
> BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application
simply
> supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
> resolutions caused abend).
>
> --
> Radoslaw Skorupka
> Lodz, Poland
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku
> przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być
> jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie
jesteś
>
> adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej
> przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie,
kopiowanie,
>
> rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie
> zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo,
> prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale
> usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub
> zapisane na dysku.
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Try adding the -oversize option as -oversize 43x132.
Alan
Martin Packer wrote:
Yes. And it gives invidious choices: 43 x 80 and 32 x 132. You can
guess I'd want 43 x 132. :-)
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
+44-7802-245-584
email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
Blog:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker
From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)"
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 10/03/2016 17:04
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do
you use
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Isn't there a -model option something like:
-model n
Where n is 2 for mod 2, 3 for mod 3, etc.
I don't have access to x3270 right now but that is what I seem to recall.
--
Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor)
Mainframe Systems Programmer
Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10)
VA OI&T Service Delivery & Engineering
Office: 512-326-6173
Cell: 925-348-0237
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Martin Packer
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 -
and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the
z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems
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24x80
Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
Atavism ;-)
I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application simply
supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
resolutions caused abend).
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Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Anybody use a web3270 app? bluezone now Rocket used to have a fairly decent one. In a message dated 3/10/2016 1:39:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, peter.far...@broadridge.com writes: LOGMODE D4C32XX3 is a standard VTAM logmode that has the "query terminal size" bit turned on. Works for any 3270 screen size whether standard or custom. In ISPF settings screen (menu item 0) I use MAX, YMMV as to whether you prefer MAX or DATA. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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>From a VTAM logon screen: LOGON APPLID=TSO,LOGMODE=D4C32XX3 APPLID is whatever you normally use to get to TSO/ISPF. LOGMODE D4C32XX3 is a standard VTAM logmode that has the "query terminal size" bit turned on. Works for any 3270 screen size whether standard or custom. In ISPF settings screen (menu item 0) I use MAX, YMMV as to whether you prefer MAX or DATA. HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 - and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more. Cheers, Martin -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
I am forced into 62x160 because of fixed 3270 definitions used where I work. My other options are MOD2-5, which do not give me the viewing space I am used to having (at least 43 lines and 133 wide). However, with 62x160, VM and TSO/ISPF work OK. But keep a watch on ISPF. Some releases ago, it supported a larger screen size (same as the max size of VM if I remember correctly). When I use a TN3270 emulator that I can control, I configure it for the best size for the monitor I am using. So I change the size depending on which monitors I'm connected to (which nearly always handles 43x133). Then I don't have to wear glasses to see the small fonts. And I size things similar to what I do with a browser. When I can get away with it, I keep browsers down to half-width of the display and just short of the task bar. Regards, Steve Thompson On 03/10/2016 08:45 AM, David Crayford wrote: We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the screen real estate for todays customer. I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green screens like SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of them. What screen size do you use? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
I would not want to get anyone in trouble, but Vista3270 does not require local admin rights. My new laptop came without admin. I could not install a new release of (stupid) Java, but I was able to install Vista. Just saying. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of nitz-ibm Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use > Can anyone tell me where this is? Don't see it under Options, 6. Set > screen characteristics... ISPF options 0, when you only have 24 lines it is on the second screen. Additionally, your 'logmode' has to match and you have to have your emulation set to accept the largest screen size it can handle. If the 'logmode' is one of the ones that allow the emulation and IP to query each other and agree on one size during connection establishment, then it comes down to 'only' specifying the screen size you want in the emulation, the rest is set automagically. >Tom Brennan is too modest to peddle his product, so I'll do it. Get a copy of >Vista3270. Screen size flexibility is only one of its many virtues. I would if I could install anything on the office equipment. Unfortunately just about no one has local admin rights. :-( Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
I'll second that ! He also worked to provide some SSL services and IPV6 that I needed in a timely fashion I couldn't have got from another vendor. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use Tom Brennan is too modest to peddle his product, so I'll do it. Get a copy of Vista3270. Screen size flexibility is only one of its many virtues. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use Barbara - I've been trying to find a way and so far (at least up to Attachmate release 9.3) have not found a way. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of nitz-ibm Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use > On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:45:48 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >What screen size do you use? > I would love to use the standard 62x162 screensize (and have for the past 7 years or so), but unfortunately my new employer uses an attachmate extra emulation that can only do 27x132. Does anyone know if I can fool attachmate into a larger screensize (like I could with PComm before it offered 62x160) by editing the parameter file? Having only 27 lines severely limits my productivity. :-( Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
> Can anyone tell me where this is? Don't see it under Options, 6. Set screen > characteristics... ISPF options 0, when you only have 24 lines it is on the second screen. Additionally, your 'logmode' has to match and you have to have your emulation set to accept the largest screen size it can handle. If the 'logmode' is one of the ones that allow the emulation and IP to query each other and agree on one size during connection establishment, then it comes down to 'only' specifying the screen size you want in the emulation, the rest is set automagically. >Tom Brennan is too modest to peddle his product, so I'll do it. Get a copy of >Vista3270. Screen size flexibility is only one of its many virtues. I would if I could install anything on the office equipment. Unfortunately just about no one has local admin rights. :-( Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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> Barbara - I've been trying to find a way and so far (at least up to > Attachmate release 9.3) have not found a way. Pity. I can hope that the new emulation they want to use can handle it. (Saying in German: Hope dies last - die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt). Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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> Can anyone tell me where this is? Don't see it under Options, 6. Set screen characteristics... When writing ISPF Settings I meant ISPF option 0 -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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At my last employer, I opened up a support ticket with Attachmate and they do not support modern sizes. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use Barbara - I've been trying to find a way and so far (at least up to Attachmate release 9.3) have not found a way. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of nitz-ibm Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use > On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:45:48 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >What screen size do you use? > I would love to use the standard 62x162 screensize (and have for the past 7 years or so), but unfortunately my new employer uses an attachmate extra emulation that can only do 27x132. Does anyone know if I can fool attachmate into a larger screensize (like I could with PComm before it offered 62x160) by editing the parameter file? Having only 27 lines severely limits my productivity. :-( Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Duh. Never mind. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use Can anyone tell me where this is? Don't see it under Options, 6. Set screen characteristics... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Tom Brennan is too modest to peddle his product, so I'll do it. Get a copy of Vista3270. Screen size flexibility is only one of its many virtues. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use Barbara - I've been trying to find a way and so far (at least up to Attachmate release 9.3) have not found a way. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of nitz-ibm Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use > On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:45:48 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >What screen size do you use? > I would love to use the standard 62x162 screensize (and have for the past 7 years or so), but unfortunately my new employer uses an attachmate extra emulation that can only do 27x132. Does anyone know if I can fool attachmate into a larger screensize (like I could with PComm before it offered 62x160) by editing the parameter file? Having only 27 lines severely limits my productivity. :-( Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Can anyone tell me where this is? Don't see it under Options, 6. Set screen characteristics... Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use > Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 > - and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more. Not at a terminal now, but there is a setting in "ISPF Settings" wiht options STD, DATA, MAX which has great influence on how ISPF behaves (it is called "screen size" or something the like). Have you set this to either DATA, or my preferred setting MAX. (I don't like the constant resizing whch happens with DATA). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 18:47:46 +0100, nitz-ibm wrote: >... Does anyone know if I can fool attachmate into a larger screensize (like I >could with PComm before it offered 62x160) by editing the parameter file? >Having only 27 lines severely limits my productivity. :-( > Probably not. The older 327x Data Stream protocol depends on the ability to identify a character cell with two 6-bit nybbles. That imposes a limit of 4096. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Barbara - I've been trying to find a way and so far (at least up to Attachmate release 9.3) have not found a way. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of nitz-ibm Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use > On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:45:48 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >What screen size do you use? > I would love to use the standard 62x162 screensize (and have for the past 7 years or so), but unfortunately my new employer uses an attachmate extra emulation that can only do 27x132. Does anyone know if I can fool attachmate into a larger screensize (like I could with PComm before it offered 62x160) by editing the parameter file? Having only 27 lines severely limits my productivity. :-( Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:48:40 +, Martin Packer wrote: >Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 - >and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the >z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more. > Something about LOGMODE. Educate your administrator. We finally did. On 2016-03-10, at 09:52, Pommier, Rex wrote: >62x160, 27x132, 24x80. Like others, I prefer to use a "non-standard" screen >size (the 62x160 is what I use mostly) but I have a couple applications that >only support the mod2-5 scenario so I normally have 2 sessions running all the >time, one with my big screen and another sitting at a mod5. > In a CMS XEDIT session I can pull the plug on my terminal then reconnect with a terminal with different geometry. XEDIT (presumably) fields the terminal I/O error and obligingly repaints the screen to the new geometry. ISPF? In Shavian mode, "... I ask, 'why not?'" Where's SIGWINCH when you need it? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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> On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:45:48 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >What screen size do you use? > I would love to use the standard 62x162 screensize (and have for the past 7 years or so), but unfortunately my new employer uses an attachmate extra emulation that can only do 27x132. Does anyone know if I can fool attachmate into a larger screensize (like I could with PComm before it offered 62x160) by editing the parameter file? Having only 27 lines severely limits my productivity. :-( Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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In your TCP/IP TN3270 member look in the "TELNETGLOBALS" section and in the documentation about the TELNETDEVICE 327n-n-E D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3 Or something like that. I believe the "D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3" lets you set a size up to 60x160. In ISPF option 0 for settings and play around with the "Screen Format" (1, 2, 3, & 4) with "Terminal Type" of 3 (3278) or 4 (3278A) Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use > Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 > - and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more. Not at a terminal now, but there is a setting in "ISPF Settings" wiht options STD, DATA, MAX which has great influence on how ISPF behaves (it is called "screen size" or something the like). Have you set this to either DATA, or my preferred setting MAX. (I don't like the constant resizing whch happens with DATA). -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 10 March 2016 at 08:45, David Crayford wrote: > What screen size do you use? 43x132 Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 3/10/2016 5:45 AM, David Crayford wrote: I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. My 3270 displays are all 68x80 default size and 68x142 alternate size. Why? I don't like "Screen format: 3. Max" in ISPF because long input fields on 80-byte-wide screens don't wrap. I use "1. Data" instead. I don't like 24x80 default screen size because it's way, way too small for writing code (and just about anything else). Keeping the number of rows constant between default and alternate screen sizes avoids the ridiculousness of having the screens, fonts, etc. jump around and change depending on what I happen to be looking at. 141 is the optimal width for IPCS BROWSE, but Greg Price's REVIEW chokes on odd widths, so I uplifted to 142. I reduced the number of rows on my displays from 90 down to 68 after I started needing glasses to work. Since then, I've been getting larger and larger PC monitors to compensate... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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>It wasn't private. Yep, and when I finished reading I wondered what secrects he wanted to keep. Nothing dramatic was unveiled. IMHO. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I use a 60x162 session for when I am attempting to much about in a USS file. Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use I'm using the maximum in either direction that gives me a reasonable font size, depending on the resolution of the monitor currently working with. I'm mostly using 60x160, 80x160 or 90x160, but also 60x132 for those dumb products that only support x80 or x132 (G...). I'd expect any product, at least new ones, to support any combination between 80x24 up to 90x160 (or whatever maximum ISPF supports). Some terminal emulators, such as IBM's Personal Communication is not good variable font sizes, so I tend to set the terminal dimension for best results. I don't expect that to really matter but just tp be sure: Don't expect the colors to be old fashioned "something on black". I'v been using white as backgound color for at least 10 to 15 years. Much more relaxing than constantly switch between black background emulation window and white or light grey background on office and other workstation programs. --Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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>I have used Mod 4 (43x80) for years. There are times when a wider screen would >be useful, but Mod 5 e.g. shrinks characters to Lilliputian scale. Maybe if I >had a giant 4K monitor I would jack up the density... You don't need a 4K monitor. A cheap standard 24" or 27" monitor allows for a reasonable font size, provided it's a business montor and not a movie viewer monitor. I mean to say it should have a vertical resolution of 1080 or more (which is hard to find, unfortunately). -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Yes. And it gives invidious choices: 43 x 80 and 32 x 132. You can
guess I'd want 43 x 132. :-)
Cheers, Martin
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Isn't there a -model option something like:
-model n
Where n is 2 for mod 2, 3 for mod 3, etc.
I don't have access to x3270 right now but that is what I seem to recall.
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Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 -
and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the
z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
Cheers, Martin
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24x80
Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
Atavism ;-)
I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application simply
supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
resolutions caused abend).
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>BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application
simply supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels
("illegal" resolutions caused abend).
Control-D is no better. I remember well when I had to start working with
Control-M roughly 10 years ago. I found exactly what you're saying: Control-M
abended with my larger terminal dimensions. I was lucky to get support from the
sysprog resposible for the Control-x products and he opened a problem with the
vendor. And more luckily, they indeed fix (well half way fixed) this. Since
then you can use any number of rows but only 80 or 132 columns. The products
still don't user more than 24 (or is it 27) rows but at least they don't abend
anymore. Yeahhh... :-)
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It wasn't private. -teD Original Message From: Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:36 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use David, I'm replying privately rather than to the list so as to avoid publishing this data to the world. Personally I use two different terminal models on a regular basis: 50x160 for editing and batch development (SDSF, ISPF, etc.). I don't use 60x160 because the font is a tad small for my aging eyes. Model-4 (43x80) for all CICS sessions because the CA CICS Intertest version installed here doesn't use any lines beyond 43, which can get a little weird when single-stepping through a program. The rest of the shop seems to use mostly model 2 and model 4 as far as I know. HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the screen real estate for todays customer. I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green screens like SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of them. What screen size do you use? -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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> Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 - and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more. Not at a terminal now, but there is a setting in "ISPF Settings" wiht options STD, DATA, MAX which has great influence on how ISPF behaves (it is called "screen size" or something the like). Have you set this to either DATA, or my preferred setting MAX. (I don't like the constant resizing whch happens with DATA). -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:45:48 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, >Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the >screen real estate for todays customer. > >What screen size do you use? > Various. Once recently I dropped back to *x80 merely to get an image I could more readily copy-and-paste into a mesage. My earnest request: Please eschew pillarboxes. Don't restrict input fields for users of large screens in order to be compatible with standard geometry. And absolutely *never* interrupt a notional single input field with attribute bytes as ISRTSO does. But do not quietly truncate input from oversize terminals. Either fail with an error message or enter a confirmation dialogue. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I have used Mod 4 (43x80) for years. There are times when a wider screen would
be useful, but Mod 5 e.g. shrinks characters to Lilliputian scale. Maybe if I
had a giant 4K monitor I would jack up the density...
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Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 - and
not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the z/OS
TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
Cheers, Martin
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Date: 10/03/2016 16:23
Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
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24x80
Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
Atavism ;-)
I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application simply
supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
resolutions caused abend).
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Isn't there a -model option something like:
-model n
Where n is 2 for mod 2, 3 for mod 3, etc.
I don't have access to x3270 right now but that is what I seem to recall.
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Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 - and
not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the z/OS
TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
Cheers, Martin
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Date: 10/03/2016 16:23
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24x80
Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
Atavism ;-)
I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application simply
supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
resolutions caused abend).
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Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
62x160, 27x132, 24x80. Like others, I prefer to use a "non-standard" screen size (the 62x160 is what I use mostly) but I have a couple applications that only support the mod2-5 scenario so I normally have 2 sessions running all the time, one with my big screen and another sitting at a mod5. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the screen real estate for todays customer. I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green screens like SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of them. What screen size do you use? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 -
and not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the
z/OS TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.
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24x80
Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
Atavism ;-)
I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application
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Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
24x80
Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
Atavism ;-)
I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.
BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:45:48 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >What screen size do you use? 90 x 142 -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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And of course I forgot to change the address to David's and put it out here anyway. Mea culpa. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use David, I'm replying privately rather than to the list so as to avoid publishing this data to the world. -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
David, I'm replying privately rather than to the list so as to avoid publishing this data to the world. Personally I use two different terminal models on a regular basis: 50x160 for editing and batch development (SDSF, ISPF, etc.). I don't use 60x160 because the font is a tad small for my aging eyes. Model-4 (43x80) for all CICS sessions because the CA CICS Intertest version installed here doesn't use any lines beyond 43, which can get a little weird when single-stepping through a program. The rest of the shop seems to use mostly model 2 and model 4 as far as I know. HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the screen real estate for todays customer. I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green screens like SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of them. What screen size do you use? -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use
Use 327x-2 as default, but allow for "all" 327x types, as well as "custom types" that do not match the 327x model descriptions. We're building a new product which will have several UI's; ISPF, Web, Eclipse etc. For the ISPF we're wondering how we should optimize the screen real estate for todays customer. I use a custom 60x160 which seems to be the norm in our office. Lots of the tools we use, especially debuggers like z/XCD and DebugTool work much better with that model. I use RDz for development but for most stuff fall back on the green screens like SDSF and tools that don't have a good GUI, which is 90% of them. This email � including attachments � may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not copy, distribute or act on it. Instead, notify the sender immediately and delete the message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
