Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
I have noticed that it also depends upon HOW you got to various ISPF panels. For example IN most cases when you enter 3.4 from the primary panel enter END, you go back to where you were before 3.4 On the other hand if you enter 3;4 from the primary panel (assuming ";" is your command separator) and enter END, you go back to option 3. This seems to be modified by panels with PRIM, but seems generally true (note, this is annecdotal, no claims of real science here). What I really hate is products like BMC Control-M which have their own home grown panel system which "looks" like ISPF, but do not follow all of the rules, like requiring "X" to exit and ignoring PF3 set to END. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
>I also use where appropriate and have added SCRNAME to most entries. >Very useful when using SWAPBAR. The introduction of SWAPBAR (combined with SCRNAME) was terrific. > You want SMPE, type SMP or SMPE, you want RACF, type RAC or RACF. SYSLOG? > Type SL. Operlog? Type OL. Neat! Just FYI, some of these are also provided in ISPF, if by different names: >ISRDDN? Type DDN. Or DDLIST. BTW, I use APF, LINK, and PARMLIB extensively (PROCLIB would be very useful, too), as well as MEMBER search, which is also available from... >3.4 DSL Or DSLIST (if you don't mind the extra keystrokes). Without parms brings up your reflist, with a parm will bring up a dataset listing just as it would from the 3.4 panel. But, alas, it only deals with cataloged datasets. There's more... "Settings" stacks the Settings Panel into your active session. There's also UDLIST (3.17). I haven't looked at "ISPF Hidden Treasures" in a while, so I'm sure there are others. Regards, Art Gutowski General Motors, LLC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: >That is the only technically correct answer. For that reason I have macro >button in my terminal emulator that does: =x;=x;=x;=x;=x;=x;=x;=x; to get back >home from wherever you are. About SMP/E Primary Option Menu which is coded with " = YES", it is indeed the correct answer. PF2 + PF9 to split and swap is also a good alternative method. As others also said, ISMF and IPCS also do that. Because of that, I have added several 'shortcut commands' in option =3.9 'application command table'. There you can go to another application on top of SMP/E, ISMF, SDSF, Bookmanager, RACF, whatever. Then you go recursively back to your previous application. For example, someone in a storage group sees a message in SDSF, he then goes to ISMF (that's the command ISMF!), works on ISMF, then exit ISMF back to SDSF. After that he can works on SDSF. Of course, that eats memory, but memory is cheap-cheap! ;-) >Further, we have a lot of handy commands to go directly to useful functions. >From any panel I can enter: DSL to invoke the DSLIST panel directly. Also using =3.9 in TSO? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht "I get no respect from my wife, I once fell asleep with a cigarette in my hand. She lit it." (Rodney Dangerfield) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
I wholeheartedly concur with Elardus on the specification and usage of command table entries (3.9). I use SITE table 1 in 3.9 and currently have 137 entries in it. The majority of entries are invoked using two characters. When done, PF3 returns you to the location where you invoked the command table entry. I rarely type a "= JUMP" command. You want SMPE, type SMP or SMPE, you want RACF, type RAC or RACF. SYSLOG? Type SL. Operlog? Type OL. ISRDDN? Type DDN. I also use where appropriate and have added SCRNAME to most entries. Very useful when using SWAPBAR. Most commonly used by me? SMPE, DDN, SDH (SDSF H), SDD (SDSF DA), ISH (ISHELL), UL (ULOG) and the previously mentioned SL and OL I also have entries to invoke most ISV product dialogs, but I won't specify any of them here. :-) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels? Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: >That is the only technically correct answer. For that reason I have macro >button in my terminal emulator that does: =x;=x;=x;=x;=x;=x;=x;=x; to get back >home from wherever you are. About SMP/E Primary Option Menu which is coded with " = YES", it is indeed the correct answer. PF2 + PF9 to split and swap is also a good alternative method. As others also said, ISMF and IPCS also do that. Because of that, I have added several 'shortcut commands' in option =3.9 'application command table'. There you can go to another application on top of SMP/E, ISMF, SDSF, Bookmanager, RACF, whatever. Then you go recursively back to your previous application. For example, someone in a storage group sees a message in SDSF, he then goes to ISMF (that's the command ISMF!), works on ISMF, then exit ISMF back to SDSF. After that he can works on SDSF. Of course, that eats memory, but memory is cheap-cheap! ;-) >Further, we have a lot of handy commands to go directly to useful functions. >From any panel I can enter: DSL to invoke the DSLIST panel directly. Also using =3.9 in TSO? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht "I get no respect from my wife, I once fell asleep with a cigarette in my hand. She lit it." (Rodney Dangerfield) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
Why not just hit PF2 to split your screen! Then you can toggle between SMP/E and normal ISPF? Just a suggestion. Bill J. On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 1:37 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: In most ISPF panels I can type "=option" to move quickly to another panel. However, in the SMP/E panels, such as "=3.4" gets me not to DSLIST, but to an "Enter only those selections specified" message. Grrr. Is there a workaround? In fact, can I get out of SMP/E by any means other than repeatedly entering the END command? Thanks, gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
In most ISPF panels I can type "=option" to move quickly to another panel. However, in the SMP/E panels, such as "=3.4" gets me not to DSLIST, but to an "Enter only those selections specified" message. Grrr. Is there a workaround? In fact, can I get out of SMP/E by any means other than repeatedly entering the END command? Thanks, gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
ISMF also keeps you in their menus. I often enter =x;3;4 to go to the DSN list. On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Pommier, Rex <rpomm...@sfgmembers.com> wrote: > "=x" on the command line? > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels? > > In most ISPF panels I can type "=option" to move quickly to another panel. > However, in the SMP/E panels, such as "=3.4" gets me not to DSLIST, but > to an "Enter only those selections specified" message. > > Grrr. Is there a workaround? In fact, can I get out of SMP/E by any means > other than repeatedly entering the END command? > > Thanks, > gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from > disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is > not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering > this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in > reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in > electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
"=x" on the command line? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels? In most ISPF panels I can type "=option" to move quickly to another panel. However, in the SMP/E panels, such as "=3.4" gets me not to DSLIST, but to an "Enter only those selections specified" message. Grrr. Is there a workaround? In fact, can I get out of SMP/E by any means other than repeatedly entering the END command? Thanks, gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
On 13 January 2016 at 13:37, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > In most ISPF panels I can type "=option" to move quickly to another panel. > However, in the SMP/E panels, such as "=3.4" gets me not to DSLIST, but > to an "Enter only those selections specified" message. It's not unique to SMP/E - IPCS and ISMF behave the same way, but others such as SDSF and RACF don't. It can be useful either way, e.g. in IPCS to go from browsing storage to looking at the trace table using "=2.7.4". A matter of chacun à son gout. > Grrr. Is there a workaround? In fact, can I get out of SMP/E by any means > other than repeatedly entering the END command? The IPCS main menu has an X option, so "=X" from anywhere in IPCS gets you all the way out. Surely SMP/E just needs an X option on its main menu. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
The SMP/E Primary Option Menu is coded with " = YES". The ISPF "RETURN" command (and its companion, "=") returns control to the immediately-preceding primary options menu. Let's say you're in Sysmod Management panel, for example. If you enter "=3", you'll move to the SMP/E Query Selection Menu, not the ISPF Utility Selection panel. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
That is the only technically correct answer. For that reason I have macro button in my terminal emulator that does: =x;=x;=x;=x;=x;=x;=x;=x; to get back home from wherever you are. Further, we have a lot of handy commands to go directly to useful functions. From any panel I can enter: DSL to invoke the DSLIST panel directly. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Haff Sent: 13 January, 2016 19:54 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels? The SMP/E Primary Option Menu is coded with " = YES". The ISPF "RETURN" command (and its companion, "=") returns control to the immediately-preceding primary options menu. Let's say you're in Sysmod Management panel, for example. If you enter "=3", you'll move to the SMP/E Query Selection Menu, not the ISPF Utility Selection panel. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels?
There may not be an "X" displayed on the menu, but it is a valid selection on the GIM@PRIM panel: VER(,LIST,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,D,T,W,X MSG=GIMIS007) Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Why doesn't "="option work in SMP/E panels? The IPCS main menu has an X option, so "=X" from anywhere in IPCS gets you all the way out. Surely SMP/E just needs an X option on its main menu. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
