Re: DFSMS RMS ISPF

2006-04-26 Thread Lee Stewart

Thanks all who responded...

Imler, Steven J wrote:

Lee,

That's correct.  ISPF is *not* needed for the RMS component of DFSMS ...
the component that supports the z/VM interface to the IBM 3494 Tape
Library (ATL or VTS).  


JR (Steven) Imler
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Subject: DFSMS RMS  ISPF

Hi all...I must be getting old, but

I seem to remember not too long ago a discussion here about installing 
only the RMS part of DFSMS for 3494 support and *I think* someone said 
you don't need ISPF for that part of DFSMS.


I searched the archives several ways and couldn't find any discussion 
like that, so I'm asking here...   Is it correct?  And does anyone else 
remember that discussion or am I.?


Thanks as always,
Lee


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Re: performance question

2006-04-26 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Title: performance question



I 
tried this in my $profile..


I get 
this display.


My 
report heading looks like this.


BUT my 
reports still start at 12:00:00 and end at 23:59:00..

Any 
ideas what I may have wrong???

Thank 
you.
Tom

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  System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Eginhard 
  JaegerSent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:05 AMTo: 
  IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: performance 
  question
   Can anybody tell me how to get reports from 
  PERFKIT that start at 00:01:00 and go to 23:59:00 ?  I have tried everything I can find and all my reports 
  start at 12:01:00 and end at 23:59:00.  
  What am I missing? 
  
  
  The times when counters should be reset in 
  PerfKit are defined by arguments of the command
  'FC MONCOLL RESET ...'. Entering the command 
  without further arguments will tell you
  what your current settings are, and my guess is 
  you have defined a reset at noon.
  Note that each automated 'print' request (i.e. 
  P-suffix after the time) will automatically 
  reset the corresponding counters, i.e. it will 
  become the start of a new reporting period
  unless it is superseded by a later explicit 
  'hh:mm:ssR_P' reset specification.
  
  For automatic resetting at 00:01 and printing of 
  reports at 23:59 you'd need just the statement
  'FC MONCOLL RESET 00:01:00R_P 
  23:59:00P'
  
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Re: ftp drives me crazy

2006-04-26 Thread David Boyes








You need to tell the FTP client to use
block mode, otherwise it does not respect blocking. Try TYPE E, MODE B (EBCDIC
transfer, block mode enabled). 





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Re: shutting down a linux guest on VM problem

2006-04-26 Thread Rich Smrcina

Which level of Linux is running on this guest?

Larry Macioce wrote:

I get the following message:
HCPSIG2110E User xx is not enabled for signals. (This was after I tri
ed 
to reboot it through it's putty session and of course I lose the session)

.
So I try to Google the hcp message and I get no hits. I logon to IBM and 
do 
a seach but find no hits. I get into the cp commands guide look up signal
 
and it tells me what I already know the user isn;t enabled for signals.DU

H
I knew this already. What I'd like to know are possible reasons WHY it 

isn't. 
I can still logon to the guest,through vm only, but if I try to logoff to
 
kill it (reipl) it says it's logging off but never reboots. It's hung 
higher than a kite, so I have to force it off.

Anyhelp here as to why something isn't able to receive signals would be a
 
great help.


thanks
mace   
 



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Re: shutting down a linux guest on VM problem

2006-04-26 Thread Gianfranco Ciotti

Larry Macioce wrote:

I get the following message:
HCPSIG2110E User xx is not enabled for signals. (This was after I tried 


From z/VM HELP:

HCP2110E  The variations of this message are explained below. 




MESSAGES: 




   o Virtual machine is not enabled for signals 




   o User userid is not enabled for signals 




Explanation:  A SIGNAL command was issued but the target virtual machine 
is not enabled to receive the specified type of signal. 




System Action:  Execution continues. 




Operator Response:  If the correct guest was signalled, install a level 
of the guest operating system that supports signalling. Otherwise, 
address the signal to the correct guest. 





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Re: Secure Help

2006-04-26 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
You're VMXGNR command lacks the filemode letter of the 1B0 mdisk:

Try VMXGNR USER DIRECT C  U  VMEXIT1 EXEC
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Subject: VM:Secure Help

I am loading this release on our new ZVM 5.2 system. I have gone through
installation phases 1 and 2.

I am now on page 86 of the Installation guide 7.2A.

I have accessed the source directory user direct as C. I have
accessed 1B0
as U.

I run VMXGNR USER DIRECT C VMEXIT1 EXEC,
and   VMXGNR USER DIRECT C NEWUSER EXEC,
and VMXGNR USER DIRECT C VMXUNEWU EXEC

and I always get this error message:
DMSVMX002E FILE 'EXEC TEXT *' NOT FOUND.

I've posted this on the CA support forum too. I am in a rush and this
list is full of wizards. I hope one of them can help me see the error of
my ways.

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Re: shutting down a linux guest on VM problem

2006-04-26 Thread Adam Thornton

On Apr 26, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Larry Macioce wrote:


We are Suse9 sp3+(2.6...252)


This should *definitely* handle signals!  Did SuSE turn this OFF in  
their kernel, for reasons unknown?  Anyone got any light to shed?


Something else is wrong, I suspect.

Adam


Re: shutting down a linux guest on VM problem

2006-04-26 Thread Rich Smrcina
I have SP3 systems on z/VM 5.1 where this is working perfectly.  Unless there is some 
outstanding z/VM APAR affecting SIGNAL SHUTDOWN, there must be something seriously hosed 
in Larry's Linux machine.


Adam Thornton wrote:

On Apr 26, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Larry Macioce wrote:


We are Suse9 sp3+(2.6...252)


This should *definitely* handle signals!  Did SuSE turn this OFF in 
their kernel, for reasons unknown?  Anyone got any light to shed?


Something else is wrong, I suspect.

Adam



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Re: Secure Help

2006-04-26 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
Great set of eyes John.

Its time for me to see Lenscrafters.

Regards,


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Re: shutting down a linux guest on VM problem

2006-04-26 Thread Jon Brock
IIRC, you also have to make sure that you have set up inittab to handle the 
signals propagated to Linux by VM.  

Something like:
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -h now 

Could that be the culprit?


Jon


snip

 We are Suse9 sp3+(2.6...252)

This should *definitely* handle signals!  Did SuSE turn this OFF in  
their kernel, for reasons unknown?  Anyone got any light to shed?

Something else is wrong, I suspect.
/snip


VSE lock file question

2006-04-26 Thread Hooker, Don - OIT








We are in the process of migrating to a new CPU. The
applications people want to run their test

VSE on the new box concurrently with all the other systems
still running on the old box.



After some discussion it was decided that we would just put
the VSE lock file on a physical

DASD volume. (Currently it is on a VM VDISK).



However, I remembered a problem I had with a new external
lock file in a multiple CPU and 

VSE environment 24 years ago. The problem was the result of
one of the CPUs having more

than one path to the DASD where the lock file resided.



Is this still a problem? Each CPU here has at least 4 paths
to all the DASD.



Thanks in advance,

Don



P.S. I subscribe in digest mode, so please reply directly
as well as to the list. 








Re: shutting down a linux guest on VM problem

2006-04-26 Thread Larry Macioce
I have in my sles 9 sp3 inittab:
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -r -t 4 now

but it is the same in my sles 9 sp1 guest

It did work but I guessing it's the guest not playing well with others.

I was at the Columbus meeting of MVRUG last time when Jim spoke of track,
 
but it was abit..let's not lie... much over my head. The stuff he  showed
 
that track could do really didn't mean much to me. Please don't take what
 I 
just said wrong but it would be like reading a Chinese newspaper to me. I
'm 
sure it is full of good stuff but I don't understand it. And I had to get
 
back to work so 2 things happened.
1-I missed out on asking question at lunch and more importantly 
2) I MISSED A FREE LUNCH.

thanks
Mace


Re: VSE lock file question

2006-04-26 Thread Stephen Frazier
Don, The problem in VSE with multiple paths to dasd was corrected at least 20 
years ago. :)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

However, I remembered a problem I had with a new external lock file in a 
multiple CPU and


VSE environment 24 years ago.  The problem was the result of one of the 
CPUs having more


than one path to the DASD where the lock file resided.

 

Is this still a problem?  Each CPU here has at least 4 paths to all the 
DASD.


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Re: shutting down a linux guest on VM problem

2006-04-26 Thread Rich Smrcina

Change the -r to -h.  The -r tells it to reboot.

Larry Macioce wrote:

I have in my sles 9 sp3 inittab:
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -r -t 4 now

but it is the same in my sles 9 sp1 guest

It did work but I guessing it's the guest not playing well with others.

I was at the Columbus meeting of MVRUG last time when Jim spoke of track,
 
but it was abit..let's not lie... much over my head. The stuff he  showed
 
that track could do really didn't mean much to me. Please don't take what
 I 
just said wrong but it would be like reading a Chinese newspaper to me. I
'm 
sure it is full of good stuff but I don't understand it. And I had to get
 
back to work so 2 things happened.
1-I missed out on asking question at lunch and more importantly 
2) I MISSED A FREE LUNCH.


thanks
Mace   



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Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

2006-04-26 Thread Dusha, Cecelia Ms. WHS/ITMD
The application is going to combine several NOMAD databases into 1 NOMAD
database.  We are only going to setup mod 9s for this purpose.  We will
continue to use mod 3s for the rest of our data and applications.

I greatly appreciate your help.

Thank you.

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IT Specialist (Operating Systems)
Administrator, Executive,  Financial Domain Division
WHS/ITMD/AEFDD
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From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:19 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: 3390 Mod 3 verses 3390 Mod 9s

 Presently the application is split onto several disks.  The data is to
be
 combined onto one disk.  The data is a NOMAD database.

Ah. That would argue against SFS, then. Nomad does its own balancing act
internally. 

 I thought PAV was not an option for VM.  Does z/VM 5.2 support PAV?

Well, sort of. CMS doesn't know much about it. It's mostly for guest use
AFAICT. 

If you're going to replace the mod 3's one for one with mod 9s, then it
shouldn't get any worse than it is. As someone mentioned, just don't put
*other* stuff on the disks that may change the access patterns. 


Re: shutting down a linux guest on VM problem

2006-04-26 Thread Kris Buelens
Two remarks: 
1. one can issue CP Q SIGNALS to see who has registered to get a shutdown 
signal.
2. To get online help: one no longer needs to remove parts of the message 
ID before entering the HELP command, so just issue HELP HCPSIG2110E

Kris,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: VSE lock file question

2006-04-26 Thread David Boyes








Cant use VDISK with a system on a
separate processor. 



Or at least not until VM gets XMS and CF
support (somewhere over the rainbowmusic swells)





David Boyes

Sine Nomine Associates







. Why wouldn't you
use VDISK for the LOCK file? You could see a performance hit with
regular DASD. 
Steve G. 
Former VSE sys.prog and missing it. 












Re: VSE lock file question

2006-04-26 Thread Steve Gentry

You are certainly correct. However, I didn't read that into the original email. It just mentioned 'systems'. Systems can be CPU, it can be VSE, it can be applications.
Oh, well.
Steve G.







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Can't use VDISK with a system on a separate processor. 

Or at least not until VM gets XMS and CF support (somewhere over the rainbowmusic swells)

David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates

. Why wouldn't you use VDISK for the LOCK file? You could see a performance hit with regular DASD. 
Steve G. 
Former VSE sys.prog and missing it.