Re: RSCS: LPR page size

2007-03-27 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
 
 To put it another way, if your program is using a program logical 
 unit (a numbered SYS), STDOPT LINES= won't help.

Thank you to Ron and Tom for your suggestions.

The program on VSE is an Assembler utility writing
to numbered SYS (I don't recall which right now).

I was hoping for an easy way to specify lines/page, 
I will try Les's instructions today or tomorrow.

Thanks!
Shimon


$PAGE$ Question

2007-03-27 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz

Hello list. In the past I have added several page volumes to several VM
systems, never having updated the user known as $PAGE$ in user direct that
appears to have the first Page volume in there. Since I am working fine
right now, I am hesitant to add the second volume to this userid. I have
searched the manuals and only find $PAGE$ in Running Guest Operating Systems
and that as part of a user direct listing.

So my question is, what is the benefit from having my page volumes in this
userid. I guess a second question would be, where is 'adding a page volume'
documented? I only found it in the cookbook.

Thanks!
Mary Anne


Re: $PAGE$ Question

2007-03-27 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
The benefit is in preventing someone from accidentally allocating a
minidisk on one of the page volumes.

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Hello list. In the past I have added several page volumes to
several VM systems, never having updated the user known as $PAGE$ in
user direct that appears to have the first Page volume in there. Since I
am working fine right now, I am hesitant to add the second volume to
this userid. I have searched the manuals and only find $PAGE$ in Running
Guest Operating Systems and that as part of a user direct listing. 

So my question is, what is the benefit from having my page
volumes in this userid. I guess a second question would be, where is
'adding a page volume' documented? I only found it in the cookbook. 

Thanks! 
Mary Anne


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Re: $PAGE$ Question

2007-03-27 Thread Richard Feldman (WFF)
It's a 'place holder' only. The entry in $page$ is to ensure that the
volume is shown as in use and note eligible for user minidisk. We name
our page volumes VMPG01-99 so there use is obvious. A different naming
convention could lead to confusion and thus the use of allocating the
volume under $page$.

 

Regards, 

 

Richard Feldman
Senior IT Architect 
Kelly, Douglas / Westfair Foods  Ltd.  
Ph:(403)291-6339 Fax:(403)291-6585



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Subject: $PAGE$ Question

 

Hello list. In the past I have added several page volumes to several VM
systems, never having updated the user known as $PAGE$ in user direct
that appears to have the first Page volume in there. Since I am working
fine right now, I am hesitant to add the second volume to this userid. I
have searched the manuals and only find $PAGE$ in Running Guest
Operating Systems and that as part of a user direct listing. 

So my question is, what is the benefit from having my page volumes in
this userid. I guess a second question would be, where is 'adding a page
volume' documented? I only found it in the cookbook. 

Thanks! 
Mary Anne



Re: $PAGE$ Question

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas Kern
I use $PAGE$, $SPOOL$, $TDISK$, $DIRECT$, $SYSWRM$, $SYSCKP$, $ALLOC$, as

placeholders so that I can have ALL of my DASD allocations listed in a
directory map (DIRMAP or DISKMAP). This helps me not allocate a CMS minid
isk
on cylinder 0 of a volume or on top of one of the CP-used areas. This is
less likely now-a-days because of the recommendations to use full volumes

for PAGE, SPOOL, etc allocations, but DRCT, WARM, CKPT are still small ar
eas
on sysres that might in a rush housekeeping exercise get forgotten.

/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211



On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:58:37 -0400, Mary Anne Matyaz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello list. In the past I have added several page volumes to several VM
systems, never having updated the user known as $PAGE$ in user direct th
at
appears to have the first Page volume in there. Since I am working fine
right now, I am hesitant to add the second volume to this userid. I have

searched the manuals and only find $PAGE$ in Running Guest Operating Sys
tems
and that as part of a user direct listing.

So my question is, what is the benefit from having my page volumes in th
is
userid. I guess a second question would be, where is 'adding a page volu
me'
documented? I only found it in the cookbook.

Thanks!
Mary Anne



Re: $PAGE$ Question

2007-03-27 Thread Bates, Bob [CCC-OT_IT]
I use it as a place holder and central linking site. Since I run VM:Spool and 
it requires links to the page and spool volumes this is an easy place to find 
it. Otherwise, I use VM:Secure to mark them so they don't get used for 
something else by accident.
 
Can't say about the doc. I have formatted, allocated, added to SYSTEM CONFIG 
and IPL'd. Or dug into the Commands Reference when I couldn't IPL. Don't think 
I found a Step 1, 2, 3 to do it though.
 
Bob Bates
Citigroup Technology Infrastructure
817-317-8033 

 
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Hello list. In the past I have added several page volumes to several VM 
systems, never having updated the user known as $PAGE$ in user direct that 
appears to have the first Page volume in there. Since I am working fine right 
now, I am hesitant to add the second volume to this userid. I have searched the 
manuals and only find $PAGE$ in Running Guest Operating Systems and that as 
part of a user direct listing. 

So my question is, what is the benefit from having my page volumes in this 
userid. I guess a second question would be, where is 'adding a page volume' 
documented? I only found it in the cookbook. 

Thanks! 
Mary Anne



Re: $PAGE$ Question

2007-03-27 Thread Steve Gentry
I've used it as sort of a documentation tool and to also as a place 
holder.  That way when you run DISKMAP or DIRMAP it shows up in the report 
and therefore you know the space has been allocated.  Placing the mdisk 
statement in $PAGE$ in no way means that  $PAGE$ will use it.  Of course 
if you log on to $PAGE$ and try to format that space, you'll be in a world 
of hurt.  Therefore define them as read only. 
You can also do this for $T-DISK$  and $SPOOL$

Hope that helps.

Steve G.




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Hello list. In the past I have added several page volumes to several VM 
systems, never having updated the user known as $PAGE$ in user direct that 
appears to have the first Page volume in there. Since I am working fine 
right now, I am hesitant to add the second volume to this userid. I have 
searched the manuals and only find $PAGE$ in Running Guest Operating 
Systems and that as part of a user direct listing. 

So my question is, what is the benefit from having my page volumes in this 
userid. I guess a second question would be, where is 'adding a page 
volume' documented? I only found it in the cookbook. 

Thanks! 
Mary Anne



Re: $PAGE$ Question

2007-03-27 Thread Kris Buelens

Of course if you log on to $PAGE$


$PAGE$ and friends have NOLOG as passwaord, hence if you try to LOGON you
get not in CP directory

I'll send you a HTML document that explains how we use the $xxx$ users and
other worthwile info.  It starts with some theory, such as the use of CP's
ALLOC map, or advantages of carefull definition of fullpack overlays.
Anyone else wanting this doc: send me an email.
--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: $PAGE$ Question

2007-03-27 Thread Steve Gentry
This is true, my bad.





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 Of course if you log on to $PAGE$

$PAGE$ and friends have NOLOG as passwaord, hence if you try to LOGON you 
get not in CP directory

I'll send you a HTML document that explains how we use the $xxx$ users and 
other worthwile info.  It starts with some theory, such as the use of CP's 
ALLOC map, or advantages of carefull definition of fullpack overlays. 
Anyone else wanting this doc: send me an email.
-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support 



MVMRUG Meeting April 20 in Columbus - Agenda

2007-03-27 Thread Moore, Terry A.
Cross posted to MVMRUG-L, IBMVM and LINUX-390 lists.
 
The spring MVMRUG meeting will be held at the offices of State Auto
Insurance in Columbus on Friday, April 20.  All with an interest in VM
are welcome to attend.  Details will be available at
http://www.mvmrug.org/nextmtg.html early next week.  Here is the list of
sessions that will be presented.  We will also host our traditional
Thursday evening Dutch treat dinner beginning at 7:00 pm.  If you plan
to attend the meeting, please drop me an email (off list) so we can get
a count for the refreshments.  Let me know if we should reserve a seat
at dinner Thursday.
 

*   
Linux for System z at Nationwide - From Woe to Whoa! How Did We
Get Here, Toto!
Presenter: Jim Vincent - Nationwide Insurance
Abstract:
You've probably heard that Linux runs on the mainframe and is
the same as anywhere else - from Intel to System z servers.  The
challenge is that there can be a lot of politics around choosing to run
Linux on the mainframe, deciding on a distribution and methodology for
installing and maintaining Linux end even who will be responsible for
the virtual Linux environments
 
Many decisions and discussions need to be made around processes,
tools and solutions to decide if they are right for a virtual Linux
farm.  This session will give you a candid insight on how Nationwide
dealt with those topics along with:

*   The key to opening the door for building a Linux
environment 
*   Why Linux?  What did we expect it to do for our
business? 
*   What it may take to motivate server, mainframe and even
management to work with virtual servers 
*   Choice of distributions to use on zSeries and decision
points 
*   Who needs to learn what; the learning curve for both
mainframe and server folks

The discussion will cover building a Linux Virtualization
environment with z/VM on zSeries at Nationwide Insurance, where it is
today and some key issues and benefits.

*   
Linux for System z at Nationwide - From Woe to Whoa! Where Do We
Go Now?
Speaker: Rick Barlow - Nationwide Insurance
Abstract:
This session will continue the Nationwide story and focus on
why, how and what to do to get a server farm built and keep it running.
Topics to be discussed include:

*   Virtual hardware 
*   Virtual network features and setup 
*   High availability 
*   Disaster recovery 
*   Performance challenges

 
*   z/VM Platform Update: Introducing z/VM V5.3 
Presenter: Dan Griffith, IBM

Catch the latest breaking news on z/VM product enhancements.
This session will provide you a high-level 
overview of the new z/VM Version 5.3 product announcement. z/VM
V5.3 offers new, leading-edge virtualization 
capabilities and a pricing model that will help enterprises more
easily exploit the on demand capabilities of IBM
System z virtualization technology. 

*   Managing Multiple Linux Instances on z/VM

Presenter: Shari Killion, Mainstar
When you run Linux as a guest of z/VM, the power and resources
of the mainframe are utilized as needed, so you don't have to purchase
and maintain separate dedicated hardware for each Linux server. Instead,
hundreds of thousands of instances can run on just one z/VM host.
Unfortunately, repeatedly creating, configuring and updating Linux
instances manually can be tedious and time consuming, and all too often,
those who are asked to perform these tasks are Linux staff with limited
z/VM experience or z/VM staff with limited Linux experience.Using the
automated instance management feature of Mainstar's Provisioning Expert
for Linux on zSeries product, a non-Linux or non-z/VM expert can easily
create, configure, and maintain many virtual Linux instances under z/VM.
You can also:

*   Reduce management costs by eliminating physical
footprints 
*   Eliminate errors with accurate configuration of Linux
instances
*   Centrally view and manage all Linux instances
*   Provide efficient and automated resource utilization

 

*   Free for All

Any VM-related question or topic is fair game.


 
Terry A. Moore
Interim Manager IT Client Services
Phone: (330) 471-3380
Cell: (330) 703-0402
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


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