Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Kris Buelens

This is only almost automatic (still two prompts).  Fully automatic:
  ICKDSF ickdfs commands A ickdfs output A
--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

2007/7/3, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Put your commands into a file - let's say ICKDSF COMMANDS A --- example
line:
CPVOL FMT MODE(ESA) UNIT(3900) NVFY VOLID(3900VM) RANGE(0,32759)
Be sure and start in column 2.

The type

ICKDSF
enter ICKDSF COMMANDS A--- for the input
output - whatever you want - maybe ICKDSF OUTPUT A

and off you go




Marcy Cortes

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*Subject:* [IBMVM] CPFMTXA: Automation of?

 Does anyone have an example script they would be willing to share that
shows how to automate CPFMTXA? I have a few hundred DASD volumes to format
and I would REALLY like to just write a script and have it go. I am, of
course, stuck in figuring out how to say 'YES' to the program when it wants
it.



Thanks

-Paul



Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Bill Munson

Here is one way sorta automatic
How bout a REXX exec

/*  Rexx exec  */

  queue 'format'
  queue '867B'
  queue '0-END'
  queue 'ZVAS01'
  queue 'YES'
  queue 'PERM 1-END'
  queue 'END'
 CPFMTXA

  queue 'format'
  queue '867C'
  queue '0-END'
  queue 'ZVASP1'
  queue 'YES'
  queue 'SPOL 1-END'
  queue 'END'
 CPFMTXA

  queue 'format'
  queue '867D'
  queue '0 END'
  queue 'ZVARES'
  queue 'YES'
  queue 'drct 1 20'
  queue 'perm 21 38'
  queue 'parm 39 398'
  queue 'perm 399 end'
  queue 'END'
 CPFMTXA

  queue 'format'
  queue '8B0F'
  queue '0-END'
  queue 'ZVAPG1'
  queue 'YES'
  queue 'PAGE 1-END'
  queue 'END'
 CPFMTXA

You can modify the EXEC any way you want

Good Luck


Bill Munson
VM System Programmer
Office of Information Technology
State of New Jersey
(609) 984-4065

President MVMUA
http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua



Paul Raulerson wrote:
Does anyone have an example script they would be willing to share that 
shows how to automate CPFMTXA? I have a few hundred DASD volumes to 
format and I would REALLY like to just write a script and have it go. I 
am, of course, stuck in figuring out how to say YES to the program 
when it wants it.


 


Thanks

-Paul

 



Re: Regaring cmm_pages

2007-07-03 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 00:23:42 -0500, Alan Ackerman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I'm not sure what you are trying to do with WAKEUP. WAKEUP is used to
receive messages, not 
send them. If all you want is to do is send the SMSG to MAC2, then

AFAIK, to send them as well using a WAKEUP TIMES file where you can speci
fy
time, day, date,etc .and stack a command to run at that time which could 
be
an SMSG (a long way of doing it I know)or even something like this:

done = 0
Do While done = 0  
   
  'WAKEUP +30:00 (CONS QUIET' 
  wakeuprc = Rc   

  Select  

When wakeuprc = 2 Then 'SMSG USER1 Time for a coffee!' 

When wakeuprc = 6 Then Done = 1
 
  
  End   
  
End
   

So that you can tell yourself to have a break every 30 minutes from all t
hat
hard work :-)

Seb


Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Marcy Cortes
Even better!  Thanks Kris.
 

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Subject: Re: [IBMVM] CPFMTXA: Automation of?


This is only almost automatic (still two prompts).  Fully automatic:
   ICKDSF ickdfs commands A ickdfs output A
-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support 


2007/7/3, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

Put your commands into a file - let's say ICKDSF COMMANDS A ---
example line:
CPVOL FMT MODE(ESA) UNIT(3900) NVFY VOLID(3900VM)
RANGE(0,32759)

Be sure and start in column 2.
 
The type
 
ICKDSF 
enter ICKDSF COMMANDS A--- for the input
output - whatever you want - maybe ICKDSF OUTPUT A
 
and off you go
 
 
 

Marcy Cortes 





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To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] CPFMTXA: Automation of?



Does anyone have an example script they would be willing to
share that shows how to automate CPFMTXA? I have a few hundred DASD
volumes to format and I would REALLY like to just write a script and
have it go. I am, of course, stuck in figuring out how to say 'YES' to
the program when it wants it. 

 

Thanks 

-Paul




Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 11:00:08PM -0500,Paul Raulerson Wrote:

} Does anyone have an example script they would be willing to share that shows
} how to automate CPFMTXA? I have a few hundred DASD volumes to format and I
} would REALLY like to just write a script and have it go. I am, of course,
} stuck in figuring out how to say 'YES' to the program when it wants it. 

The last time I had a similar need I set up 2 userids.  One did the
actual running of DSF and the other was a secuser of the first and had an
exec that read a list of DASD addresses, attached one to the DSF machine
then started a wakeup driven script to watch for the various prompts and
reply to them.  At the end of job, the wakeup script exited and the main
script detached the disk, attached the next one and back to wakeup.

Sorry that I don't have the execs available, this was several jobs ago.

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TELNET directly to Z-VM 5.3 via SSL connection

2007-07-03 Thread McBride, Catherine
Am I correct in my understanding that with the TCPIP shipped with Z-VM 5.3
we can telnet directly into VM using SSL (provided of course that we are
using an SSL-enabled TN3270 emulator?)
 
Thanks in Advance and kind regards,
 
Cathy McBride


Re: TELNET directly to Z-VM 5.3 via SSL connection

2007-07-03 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
If you have SSLSERV running and your certificates set up correctly, yes.
 

   Dennis O'Brien

I don't have a girlfriend.  I just know a girl who would get really mad
if she heard me say that.  -- Mitch Hedberg

  

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of McBride, Catherine
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:31
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] TELNET directly to Z-VM 5.3 via SSL connection


Am I correct in my understanding that with the TCPIP shipped with Z-VM
5.3 we can telnet directly into VM using SSL (provided of course that we
are using an SSL-enabled TN3270 emulator?)
 
Thanks in Advance and kind regards,
 
Cathy McBride


Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Peter . Webb
How about this:

 

/* 

***

* *

*Mass initialization of new dasd volumes. *

* *

*Written by Peter Webb, December 18, 1995.*

* *

*Modified to make easier to use. Starting and ending  *

*addresses can now be entered in hex on the command   *

*line.*

* *

*Updated by Peter Webb, August 6, 1998.   *

* *

***

*/ 

address COMMAND

trace r

CP SPOOL CONSOLE START TO *  

parse upper arg starting ending .  

/* 

starting = 7A10  

ending = 7A1E

*/   

starting = x2d(starting) 

quantity = x2d(ending) - (starting - 1)  

do i = starting for quantity 

   voladdr = d2x(i)  

   CP ATTACH voladdr * 100   

   if rc ¬= 0 then do

  say Could not attach voladdr return code rc

  iterate

   end   

   ERASE INITDISK DSF A

   EXECIO 1 DISKW INITDISK DSF A 0 F 80 (FINIS STRING, 

   INIT UNIT(100) NVFY VOLID(NUright(voladdr,4,0)),

 NOMAP VAL NCHK NOINDEX

   ICKDSF INITDISK DSF A voladdr OUTPUT2 A   

   if rc ¬= 0 then do

  say Could not initialize voladdr return code rc

   end   

   FINIS * * * 

   CP DETACH 100   

end  

parse value diag(08,QUERY USER *) with . 12 terminal 15 .

if terminal = DSC then queue CP LOGOFF

exit  

 

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Subject: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

 

Does anyone have an example script they would be willing to share that shows 
how to automate CPFMTXA? I have a few hundred DASD volumes to format and I 
would REALLY like to just write a script and have it go. I am, of course, stuck 
in figuring out how to say 'YES' to the program when it wants it. 

 

Thanks 

-Paul

 



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Re: TELNET directly to Z-VM 5.3 via SSL connection

2007-07-03 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/03/2007 at 12:30 EST, McBride, Catherine 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am I correct in my  understanding that with the TCPIP shipped with Z-VM 
5.3 we 
 can telnet directly  into VM using SSL (provided of course that we are 
using an 
 SSL-enabled TN3270  emulator?)

You can do that with older releases of z/VM, too.  What's new in z/VM 5.3 
is support of emulators that have negotiated SSL/TLS (according to a 
draft TN3270E RFC).  Previous releases required an emulator that first 
created an SSL connection, then flowed TN3270E over it (non-standard).

IBM PCOMM and BlueZone are examples of emulators that can handle either 
case.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Fran Hensler
I wouldn't think that you would not have to CPFMTXA every volume.  Only
the CPOWNED volumes need to be CMFMTXA'd.

Anyway, here is an EXEC that I used to initialize a large batch of
DASD when we installed out FLEX-ES system.  I'm sure it could be
modified to fit your needs.

/Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 44 years
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.724.738.2153
Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock
--
/**   INITDASD EXEC
 **
 **
 **  Write a volume label on all dasd NOT attached to SYSTEM or CP OWNED
 **
 **  Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 **Date: May 6; 2003
 **
 **/
i=0
i=i+1;dasd.i=0680 VSESAM
i=i+1;dasd.i=0681 DOSRES
i=i+1;dasd.i=0682 SYSWK1
i=i+1;dasd.i=0683 CUFS90
i=i+1;dasd.i=0684 STAFF0
i=i+1;dasd.i=0685 ADVAN5
i=i+1;dasd.i=0686 NEW686
i=i+1;dasd.i=0687 ADVAN1
i=i+1;dasd.i=0688 NEW688
i=i+1;dasd.i=0689 POWER1
i=i+1;dasd.i=068A NEW68A
i=i+1;dasd.i=068B VSE002
i=i+1;dasd.i=068C VMSYS1
i=i+1;dasd.i=068D VSE001
i=i+1;dasd.i=068E 230RES
i=i+1;dasd.i=068F VSELIB
i=i+1;dasd.i=0690 STUDNT
i=i+1;dasd.i=0691 NEW691
i=i+1;dasd.i=0692 TEMP01
i=i+1;dasd.i=0693 SRULIB
i=i+1;dasd.i=0694 CICSUC
i=i+1;dasd.i=0695 TEMP02
i=i+1;dasd.i=0696 ZVM001
i=i+1;dasd.i=0697 ZVM002
i=i+1;dasd.i=0698 NEW698
i=i+1;dasd.i=0699 NEW699
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A0 VSAM90
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A1 VSAM93
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A2 VSAM91
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A3 COPY01
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A4 VSAM92
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A5 COPY00
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A6 PAGER2
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A7 SPOOL1
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A8 ADABAS
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A9 PAGER1
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AA DBMS01
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AB 230W01
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AC STAFF1
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AD ADVAN4
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AE ADVAN2
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AF ADVAN3
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B0 OSCAR0
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B1 ADVAN6
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B2 VM2VSE
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B3 CNEW01
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B4 NEW6B4
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B5 NEW6B5
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B6 ZVM003
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B7 ZVM004
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B8 NEW6B8
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B9 NEW6B9
  dasd.0=i

Do i = 1 to dasd.0
   Parse Var dasd.i cuu volid
   'PIPE CP QUERY' cuu '| VAR RESPONSE | CONSOLE'
   If Word(response,3) = 'CP' Then Iterate
   Call initialize
   'CP DETACH' cuu
End i
Exit

initialize:
'CP ATTACH' cuu '*'
If Rc /= 0 Then Return

j=0
j=j+1;init.j=' INITUNITADDRESS('cuu')  -'
j=j+1;init.j=' DEVTYPE(3390)   -'
j=j+1;init.j=' NOVERIFY-'
j=j+1;init.j=' NOCONTINUE  -'
j=j+1;init.j=' DOSVTOC(0,1,1)  -'
j=j+1;init.j=' NOVALIDATE  -'
j=j+1;init.j=' VOLID('volid')  -'
j=j+1;init.j='   PURGE -'
j=j+1;init.j=' MAP  '
  init.0=j

'PIPE STEM INIT. | PAD 80 |  INITVM DSF A F 80'
'VMFCLEAR'
Say 'Ready to initialize' cuu 'to' volid 'Press ENTER or type HX'
Parse Upper Pull response
If response /= '' Then Exit
Queue 'INITVM DSF A'  /* File containing parameters */
Queue 'CONSOLE'   /* Output device */
'ICKDSF'  /* Do the initialize */
Return


Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Paul Raulerson
I like! Thank you. 
We primarily use Linux here, and just MDISK in the volumes for each instance. 
They tend to wrok better if they are CP formated. :) 
-Paul


---BeginMessage---
I wouldn't think that you would not have to CPFMTXA every volume.  Only
the CPOWNED volumes need to be CMFMTXA'd.

Anyway, here is an EXEC that I used to initialize a large batch of
DASD when we installed out FLEX-ES system.  I'm sure it could be
modified to fit your needs.

/Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 44 years
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.724.738.2153
Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock
--
/**   INITDASD EXEC
 **
 **
 **  Write a volume label on all dasd NOT attached to SYSTEM or CP OWNED
 **
 **  Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 **Date: May 6; 2003
 **
 **/
i=0
i=i+1;dasd.i=0680 VSESAM
i=i+1;dasd.i=0681 DOSRES
i=i+1;dasd.i=0682 SYSWK1
i=i+1;dasd.i=0683 CUFS90
i=i+1;dasd.i=0684 STAFF0
i=i+1;dasd.i=0685 ADVAN5
i=i+1;dasd.i=0686 NEW686
i=i+1;dasd.i=0687 ADVAN1
i=i+1;dasd.i=0688 NEW688
i=i+1;dasd.i=0689 POWER1
i=i+1;dasd.i=068A NEW68A
i=i+1;dasd.i=068B VSE002
i=i+1;dasd.i=068C VMSYS1
i=i+1;dasd.i=068D VSE001
i=i+1;dasd.i=068E 230RES
i=i+1;dasd.i=068F VSELIB
i=i+1;dasd.i=0690 STUDNT
i=i+1;dasd.i=0691 NEW691
i=i+1;dasd.i=0692 TEMP01
i=i+1;dasd.i=0693 SRULIB
i=i+1;dasd.i=0694 CICSUC
i=i+1;dasd.i=0695 TEMP02
i=i+1;dasd.i=0696 ZVM001
i=i+1;dasd.i=0697 ZVM002
i=i+1;dasd.i=0698 NEW698
i=i+1;dasd.i=0699 NEW699
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A0 VSAM90
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A1 VSAM93
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A2 VSAM91
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A3 COPY01
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A4 VSAM92
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A5 COPY00
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A6 PAGER2
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A7 SPOOL1
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A8 ADABAS
i=i+1;dasd.i=06A9 PAGER1
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AA DBMS01
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AB 230W01
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AC STAFF1
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AD ADVAN4
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AE ADVAN2
i=i+1;dasd.i=06AF ADVAN3
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B0 OSCAR0
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B1 ADVAN6
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B2 VM2VSE
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B3 CNEW01
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B4 NEW6B4
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B5 NEW6B5
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B6 ZVM003
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B7 ZVM004
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B8 NEW6B8
i=i+1;dasd.i=06B9 NEW6B9
  dasd.0=i

Do i = 1 to dasd.0
   Parse Var dasd.i cuu volid
   'PIPE CP QUERY' cuu '| VAR RESPONSE | CONSOLE'
   If Word(response,3) = 'CP' Then Iterate
   Call initialize
   'CP DETACH' cuu
End i
Exit

initialize:
'CP ATTACH' cuu '*'
If Rc /= 0 Then Return

j=0
j=j+1;init.j=' INITUNITADDRESS('cuu')  -'
j=j+1;init.j=' DEVTYPE(3390)   -'
j=j+1;init.j=' NOVERIFY-'
j=j+1;init.j=' NOCONTINUE  -'
j=j+1;init.j=' DOSVTOC(0,1,1)  -'
j=j+1;init.j=' NOVALIDATE  -'
j=j+1;init.j=' VOLID('volid')  -'
j=j+1;init.j='   PURGE -'
j=j+1;init.j=' MAP  '
  init.0=j

'PIPE STEM INIT. | PAD 80 |  INITVM DSF A F 80'
'VMFCLEAR'
Say 'Ready to initialize' cuu 'to' volid 'Press ENTER or type HX'
Parse Upper Pull response
If response /= '' Then Exit
Queue 'INITVM DSF A'  /* File containing parameters */
Queue 'CONSOLE'   /* Output device */
'ICKDSF'  /* Do the initialize */
Return


---End Message---


Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Fran Hensler
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:00:15 EDT, Fran Hensler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I wouldn't think that you would not have to CPFMTXA every volume.  Only
the CPOWNED volumes need to be CMFMTXA'd.

WOW! Two negatives in that statement.  I'm not sure what that implies.

Anyway, what I meant was that you only have to CPFMTXA volumes that are 

CPOWNED.

/Fran


Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
We CPFMTXA every VM DASD volume that DASD Management gives us and we
return to them.  We do not want any form of VTOC on those volumes and we
want one complete run of the entire DASD just in case there is an I/O
problem with the packs, unlikley today, but in days of old

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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:00:15 EDT, Fran Hensler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I wouldn't think that you would not have to CPFMTXA every volume.  Only

the CPOWNED volumes need to be CMFMTXA'd.

WOW! Two negatives in that statement.  I'm not sure what that implies.

Anyway, what I meant was that you only have to CPFMTXA volumes that are 
CPOWNED.

/Fran


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2107 mystery

2007-07-03 Thread Martha McConaghy
We have run into another one of those z/OS is right and VM is weird
mysteries.  Hopefully, someone else can shed some light on it.

We have a DS8100 (2107) that we have been using for the past few months
for VM based stuff (SFS servers, Linux server, etc) with no problem.  I've
been using CP FLASHCOPY on it with no problems as well.  We just tried to
move some z/OS volumes over to it from an old 2105-F20 (Shark).  The
volumes moved fine.  However, when our z/OS guy tried to run
z/OS ConcurrentCopy against some of the datasets, he got errors that the
box does not support that function.  Obviously, it does since we have
been doing Flash on VM all along.

Now, the z/OS guys are suggesting that I gen the 2107 volumes as
unsupported in VM to fix the problem.  I'm not sure what they mean
by that, but I don't like the sound of it.  Anyone seen this problem or
have any insight into it?

Martha


Re: 2107 mystery

2007-07-03 Thread Marcy Cortes
Is your z/OS a guest?  Does he need something like OPTION DEVMAINT or
something in its directory entry?  (Been a long time since I had an MVS
guest)


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Subject: [IBMVM] 2107 mystery

We have run into another one of those z/OS is right and VM is weird
mysteries.  Hopefully, someone else can shed some light on it.

We have a DS8100 (2107) that we have been using for the past few months
for VM based stuff (SFS servers, Linux server, etc) with no problem.
I've been using CP FLASHCOPY on it with no problems as well.  We just
tried to move some z/OS volumes over to it from an old 2105-F20 (Shark).
The volumes moved fine.  However, when our z/OS guy tried to run z/OS
ConcurrentCopy against some of the datasets, he got errors that the box
does not support that function.  Obviously, it does since we have been
doing Flash on VM all along.

Now, the z/OS guys are suggesting that I gen the 2107 volumes as
unsupported in VM to fix the problem.  I'm not sure what they mean by
that, but I don't like the sound of it.  Anyone seen this problem or
have any insight into it?

Martha


Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
And remember way back when you did a CPFMTXA and it defaulted to PAGE
instead of PERM.

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Strictly speaking, that's true.  Just a plain old ICKDSF INIT is 
enough.  25+ years ago, however, I learned that MVS looks at a volume 
such as that, however, and says Wow!  The Format ? DSCB that controls 
space allocation for MVS does not say that space is used on this volume,

therefore it's all available.  MVS may not say that in so many words, 
but ICKDSF CPVOL INIT or CPFMTXA, which is just an ICKDSF CPVOL front 
end, does make the volume look like it's 100% full at least to MVS. Jim

Fran Hensler wrote:
 On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:00:15 EDT, Fran Hensler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 I wouldn't think that you would not have to CPFMTXA every volume.  
 Only the CPOWNED volumes need to be CMFMTXA'd.
 

 WOW! Two negatives in that statement.  I'm not sure what that implies.

 Anyway, what I meant was that you only have to CPFMTXA volumes that 
 are=20=

 CPOWNED.

 /Fran

   


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Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Brian Nielsen
A while back I had to reformat just cylinder 0 of a whole slew of VM 
volumes that had been originally formatted by a z/OS utility.  I used the
 
following short EXEC plus an input file:

/* */
'PIPE CMS ERASE FMT-CYL0 CPFMTXA A | HOLE'

/* 6400 ICK33001I VM6400 CYLINDER ZERO NOT IN CP FORMAT */
'PIPE',
   ' Q-ALLOC NOT-CP A',
   '| SPECS W1 1 W3 NW',
   '| STEM DASD.'

DO i=1 TO dasd.0
   parse var dasd.i raddr volid .
   CALL fmt_cyl_0 raddr volid
END

EXIT

CALL fmt_cyl_0 674d VM674d
CALL fmt_cyl_0 662b VM322b

/* - */
fmt_cyl_0: PROCEDURE
   arg raddr volid .

   'PIPE CP DEFINE MDISK' raddr '0 END' volid '| HOLE'

   say 'CPFMTXA' raddr volid 'FORMAT'

   MAKEBUF
   push 'END'
   push 'YES'
   'PIPE (ENDCHAR ?)',
  'CMS CPFMTXA' raddr volid '0.1',
  '|  FMT-CYL0 CPFMTXA A'

   DROPBUF

   'PIPE CP DET' raddr '| HOLE'

RETURN



The input file contained the ICK33001I message lines extracted from the 

output of another EXEC which used CPFMTXA to query the allocation map of 

all the volumes.  There's a sample in a comment line in the above EXEC. 
 
There are also some sample calls to the subroutine that does the work.

The output is captured in a file for later review.

To format other than just cylinder 0 you'd need to adjust the CPFMTXA cal
l 
in the subroutine.  Consult the CPFMTXA utility in the CP Commands and 

Utilities manual for the parameter details.

Brian Nielsen



On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 23:00:08 -0500, Paul Raulerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

wrote:

Does anyone have an example script they would be willing to share that 

shows
how to automate CPFMTXA? I have a few hundred DASD volumes to format and
 I
would REALLY like to just write a script and have it go. I am, of course
,
stuck in figuring out how to say 'YES' to the program when it wants it.



Thanks

-Paul


Re: 2107 mystery

2007-07-03 Thread Feller, Paul
 I have not had to work with this type of stuff for some time, but I do
think you can turn on/off the concurrent copy function.  At one time it
was also something that you had to order with the DASD box.  Also, I
don't think flashcopy needs concurrent copy to do its thing.  The z/Os
people may have to turn on concurrent copy.


Paul Feller 
AIT Mainframe Technical Support 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(319)-355-7824 


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martha McConaghy
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:53 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: 2107 mystery

We have run into another one of those z/OS is right and VM is weird
mysteries.  Hopefully, someone else can shed some light on it.

We have a DS8100 (2107) that we have been using for the past few months
for VM based stuff (SFS servers, Linux server, etc) with no problem.
I've been using CP FLASHCOPY on it with no problems as well.  We just
tried to move some z/OS volumes over to it from an old 2105-F20 (Shark).
The volumes moved fine.  However, when our z/OS guy tried to run z/OS
ConcurrentCopy against some of the datasets, he got errors that the box
does not support that function.  Obviously, it does since we have been
doing Flash on VM all along.

Now, the z/OS guys are suggesting that I gen the 2107 volumes as
unsupported in VM to fix the problem.  I'm not sure what they mean by
that, but I don't like the sound of it.  Anyone seen this problem or
have any insight into it?

Martha


Re: 2107 mystery

2007-07-03 Thread Steve Wilkins

A guest of z/VM must have the following authority in their user directory
entry in order to manage CONCOPY sessions.   Otherwise, errors are forced
on related I/O.

STDEVOPT DASDSYS DATAMOVER

Regards, Steve.

Steve Wilkins
IBM z/VM Development


   
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Is your z/OS a guest?  Does he need something like OPTION DEVMAINT or
something in its directory entry?  (Been a long time since I had an MVS
guest)


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Behalf Of Martha McConaghy
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:53 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] 2107 mystery

We have run into another one of those z/OS is right and VM is weird
mysteries.  Hopefully, someone else can shed some light on it.

We have a DS8100 (2107) that we have been using for the past few months
for VM based stuff (SFS servers, Linux server, etc) with no problem.
I've been using CP FLASHCOPY on it with no problems as well.  We just
tried to move some z/OS volumes over to it from an old 2105-F20 (Shark).
The volumes moved fine.  However, when our z/OS guy tried to run z/OS
ConcurrentCopy against some of the datasets, he got errors that the box
does not support that function.  Obviously, it does since we have been
doing Flash on VM all along.

Now, the z/OS guys are suggesting that I gen the 2107 volumes as
unsupported in VM to fix the problem.  I'm not sure what they mean by
that, but I don't like the sound of it.  Anyone seen this problem or
have any insight into it?

Martha


zVM 5.3 and SSL

2007-07-03 Thread Richard Alexander

Greetings folks,

I am reading on the zVM homepage about the enahanced security and SSL for 
ftp and telnet, etc.
I am not sure whether the SSL Server is part of zVM or is it thru a LInux 
Server that needs to be installed.


And if thru a Linux server, does it have to be ordered separately or 
downloaded somewhere.



Thanks in anticipation.


Richard

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Re: zVM 5.3 and SSL

2007-07-03 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/03/2007 at 04:13 AST, Richard Alexander 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am reading on the zVM homepage about the enahanced security and SSL 
for
 ftp and telnet, etc.
 I am not sure whether the SSL Server is part of zVM or is it thru a 
LInux
 Server that needs to be installed.
 
 And if thru a Linux server, does it have to be ordered separately or
 downloaded somewhere.

You need to obtain and install your own [RHEL4 or SLES9] Linux on System z 
server.  Other distributions may work, but IBM won't provide any warranty.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


zVM and Linux

2007-07-03 Thread Richard Alexander

Thank you Alan for your prompt answer.

Richard

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Re: zVM 5.3 and SSL

2007-07-03 Thread McBride, Catherine
I'm confused.  If SSL is provided thru Linux, how does that work with
TN3270E?
Maybe it's just been a long on-call week (already), but am struggling to
connect the dots (or in this case, the 3270 sessions).  How can we come in
to Linux via TN3270?Or, is the IP stack on VM doing the communication to
the Linux guest and the 3270 session is unaware of it...

Many thanks for your help,

Cathy McBride 

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 3:24 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: zVM 5.3 and SSL


On Tuesday, 07/03/2007 at 04:13 AST, Richard Alexander 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am reading on the zVM homepage about the enahanced security and SSL 
for
 ftp and telnet, etc.
 I am not sure whether the SSL Server is part of zVM or is it thru a 
LInux
 Server that needs to be installed.
 
 And if thru a Linux server, does it have to be ordered separately or
 downloaded somewhere.

You need to obtain and install your own [RHEL4 or SLES9] Linux on System z 
server.  Other distributions may work, but IBM won't provide any warranty.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: CPFMTXA: Automation of?

2007-07-03 Thread Stephen Frazier
The VTOC that is written by CPFMTXA or ICKDSF CPVOL will stop MVS or VSE from writing anything on 
the volume with normal commands. The VTOC has a free space record that shows no free space on the 
volume. MVS can not allocate any new data sets on the volume. The VTOC has no DSN records. So MVS 
cannot find anything to delete. Utilities that don't go through normal i/o (FDR, DITTO, ICKDSF, ...) 
will be able to use the volume.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm about 99.9% certain that what CPFMTXA or ICKDSF CPVOL puts out is a 
normal VOL1 label, along with an MVS recognizable VTOC.

Jim

Stracka, James (GTI) wrote:

We CPFMTXA every VM DASD volume that DASD Management gives us and we
return to them.  We do not want any form of VTOC on those volumes and we
want one complete run of the entire DASD just in case there is an I/O
problem with the packs, unlikley today, but in days of old

  




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Re: zVM 5.3 and SSL

2007-07-03 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/03/2007 at 03:46 EST, McBride, Catherine 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm confused.  If SSL is provided thru Linux, how does that work with 
TN3270E? 
 Maybe it's just been a long on-call week (already), but am struggling to 

 connect the dots (or in this case, the 3270 sessions).  How can we come 
in to 
 Linux via TN3270?Or, is the IP stack on VM doing the communication 
to the 
 Linux guest and the 3270 session is unaware of it...

And a miracle occurs *here* in Step 2...  :-)

You don't come into Linux, you come into your VM system just as you always 
have.  With z/VM 5.3, if your tn3270e client tries to negotiate a secure 
session, the telnet server will issue new APIs to allow the Linux guest to 
handle the SSL/TLS protocols, key management, and encryption/decryption. 
It inserts Linux into the middle of the data flow.

Because of tight integration with the VM TCP/IP stack, the full Linux 
AF_INET stack is replaced with a thin AF_INET layer more closely akin to 
CMS.  So, the Linux guest looks like a CMS application to the VM TCP/IP 
stack and does not require its own network connections.

The version of this technology, which we affectionately call VMsock, 
released with z/VM 5.3 is shipped under the terms of GPLv2.  (Not the SSL 
server, but the thin AF_INET stack for Linux.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: zVM 5.3 and SSL

2007-07-03 Thread McBride, Catherine
EUREKA!  Got it!  This is a neat solution.  Thank you for such a concise
answer.  

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Subject: Re: zVM 5.3 and SSL

On Tuesday, 07/03/2007 at 03:46 EST, McBride, Catherine 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm confused.  If SSL is provided thru Linux, how does that work with 
TN3270E? 
 Maybe it's just been a long on-call week (already), but am struggling
to 

 connect the dots (or in this case, the 3270 sessions).  How can we
come 
in to 
 Linux via TN3270?Or, is the IP stack on VM doing the communication

to the 
 Linux guest and the 3270 session is unaware of it...

And a miracle occurs *here* in Step 2...  :-)

You don't come into Linux, you come into your VM system just as you
always 
have.  With z/VM 5.3, if your tn3270e client tries to negotiate a secure

session, the telnet server will issue new APIs to allow the Linux guest
to 
handle the SSL/TLS protocols, key management, and encryption/decryption.

It inserts Linux into the middle of the data flow.

Because of tight integration with the VM TCP/IP stack, the full Linux 
AF_INET stack is replaced with a thin AF_INET layer more closely akin to

CMS.  So, the Linux guest looks like a CMS application to the VM TCP/IP 
stack and does not require its own network connections.

The version of this technology, which we affectionately call VMsock, 
released with z/VM 5.3 is shipped under the terms of GPLv2.  (Not the
SSL 
server, but the thin AF_INET stack for Linux.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


www.vm.ibm.com down?

2007-07-03 Thread Marcy Cortes
Can't get there tonight?  Is it down?  On early holiday?

Marcy Cortes 

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Re: www.vm.ibm.com down?

2007-07-03 Thread Don Russell

Marcy Cortes wrote:

Can't get there tonight?  Is it down?  On early holiday?


No problems for me 3 Jul 19:00 UTC -0700


Re: www.vm.ibm.com down?

2007-07-03 Thread Marcy Cortes
Just started working for me too.
Someone read my post and fixed it :)!   Thanks!


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Marcy Cortes wrote:
 Can't get there tonight?  Is it down?  On early holiday?

No problems for me 3 Jul 19:00 UTC -0700