Re: ongoing rush to the new, 40+ yr old virtual machine technology

2007-11-16 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to alt.folklore.computers as well.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#40 ongoing rush to the new, 40+ yr old 
virtual machine technology

IBM Ships 10,000th Storage Virtualization Engine
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=793928

from above:

IBM has been delivering virtualization capabilities for more than 40
years and today we unveil a milestone in the area of data storage
virtualization with the shipment of 10,000 storage virtualization
engines -- a fact no other storage company in the world can claim, said
Kelly Beavers, Director, Storage Software, IBM. By working across
multiple platforms, IBM's storage virtualization helps to lower energy
costs and unlocks the proprietary hold that other storage vendors have
had on customers for years -- which IBM believes makes storage
virtualization the killer application in the storage industry over the
next decade.

... snip ...

in 1967, the science center:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

had moved cp40 to 360/67 for cp67 and also had it installed out at
lincoln labs. it wasn't installed at univ. where i was undergraduate
(3rd installation) until last week in jan68 ... and it wasn't
officially announced until spring share in houston, 1st week
mar68. minor reference mentioning 35th anniv of cp67 announce
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#72 cp/67 35th anniversary

other recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#33 Age of IBM VM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#41 Age of IBM VM

other recent news articles:

Future Threats to Virtualization Security: Fact vs. Fiction
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/111407-future-threats-to-virtualization-security.html
Virtualization hot; ITIL, IPv6 not, survey says
http://www.arnnet.com.au/index.php/id;1522739452;fp;16;fpid;1
A Virtual Conversation
http://www.serverwatch.com/trends/article.php/3711431
Oracle's Ellison: Virtualization, Applications, We Got It All
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=203100432
Sun Commits $2 Billion to Virtualization
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20071115/bs_nf/56757
Sun Commits $2 Billion to Virtualization
http://www.sci-tech-today.com/news/Sun-Commits--2-Billion-to-Virtualization/story.xhtml?story_id=033003ONF579
Sun Introduces Its New Virtualization Offering in San Francisco
http://opensource.sys-con.com/read/462102.htm
Sun Launches Virtual Assault
http://www.byteandswitch.com/document.asp?doc_id=139308WT.svl=news2_1
Sun enters a suddenly crowded virtualization market
http://www.betanews.com/article/Sun_enters_a_suddenly_crowded_virtualization_market/1195147886
Push Toward Virtualization Continues, with Two-thirds of Large
Organizations Considering It Business-Critical, According to New
Research from TheInfoPro
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_viewnewsId=20071115006066newsLang=en
VMware refutes Oracle VM performance claims
http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid94_gci1282150,00.html
Oracle VM Launched
http://www.ddj.com/linux-open-source/203100799
VMware Updates Server Software
http://www.ddj.com/hpc-high-performance-computing/202805757
Sun's New Virtualization Manager Supports Windows, Linux
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2217917,00.asp
Desktop Virtualization - What's the Best Approach?
http://linux.sys-con.com/read/462343.htm
Red Hat strategy spans virtualized  appliance deployments
http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/pressnews/red-hat-strategy-spans-virtualizedappliance-deployments/13/25/313286
Sun Commits $2 Billion to Virtualization
http://www.sci-tech-today.com/news/Sun-Commits--2-Billion-to-Virtualization/story.xhtml?story_id=1B5YYZEC
Microsoft Windows Virtualization Explained - Video with Microsoft's
Distinguished Engineer Eric Traut
http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=6404
Sun Introduces Its New Virtualization Offering in San Francisco
http://xml.sys-con.com/read/462102.htm
Microsoft Wants a Bigger Slice of VMware's Pie
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2218057,00.asp


Re: Adding OSA devices to a vSwitch...

2007-11-16 Thread Hans Rempel
I believe you can do it without using the disconnect. I tried this on a
system that was not very active and it worked fine. 

Hans 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ronald van der Laan
Sent: November 16, 2007 3:48 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Adding OSA devices to a vSwitch...

Robert

On Nov 15, 2007 10:56 PM, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm looking for some peace of mind before trying this...

  We've cabled a second OSA device into our network, and I want to add it
to
 my vSwitch definition as a backup to the current OSA connection. I can
 obviously add the path to the SYSTEM CONFIG file, and wait for the new IPL
 (which, hopefully, is some time in the distant future). I see that I can
 also issue a SET VSWITCH name RDEV origdev newdev.

  The question is, will adding the second device disrupt the current
traffic,
 or will everything keep running correctly? I think that it should be
 non-disruptive, but I'm looking for some reassurance

I've done this in the past, and it was disruptive in a way that for a
few milliseconds the vswitch got stopped.
What I did was create an exec with the following commands:

/* Add addional osa card */
'CP SET VSWITCH name DISCONNECT'
'CP SET VSWITCH name RDEV origdev newdev'
'CP SET VSWITCH name CONNECT'

As the IP protocol doesn't guarantee packet arrival anyway, so the few
lost packets should be retransmitted without anyone noticing the
difference.

PS, I did the same for disabling/removing osa cards (for maintenance)
in the past.

Ronald van der Laan


Re: Question about SMAPI

2007-11-16 Thread Bob Bolch
 The SMAPI server requires a directory manager, and DirMaint has been
 enhanced to work with the new server. From IBM's perspective,
 there is no reason to not go there just yet.

One reason might be that your provisioning product supports the RPC server
but does not (yet?) support the SMAPI Socket server. One product in this
situation is IBM Director (from IBM).

Bob Bolch


Re: dirm needpass no

2007-11-16 Thread Colleen Brown
From DirMaint Support:

What they have done is made every command be not prompted for a password. 
Which of course is not the way DirMaint typically runs.  Someone, probably 
on the listserv, told them in the past they could alter the cmds file to 
remove them from password authorization.  Something which I would 
typically describe as dangerous but perhaps on their education/test system 
it is what they want. 

With this in mind these files are not typical files to be needing 
tailoring at all.  The are tailorable if there is some special case which 
they seem to have.
This is why they are not discussed in the documentation (TAG).

In the case of AUTHBY CONTROL this is built when you use the AUTHBY 
function for BYUSERS.  There are several control files in DirMaint which 
get built because the external command was issued.  Therefore there is no 
need for the customer to be informed of this file.

If he would follow the documentation given with the product he is informed 
of everything he needs to know about.

By default DirMaint requires passwords. The way they operate as discussed 
they are not.  However, if the issue a  NEEDPASS command which is an 
optional command it could confuse the issue.

What I believe they should have done to give everyone access to all 
commands by making every command a GENERAL use command. Then the password 
prompt would not be so confusing.  But as long as they know what they have 
done there is no issue.  Just be aware that this could be dangerous.
They are giving access to everyone to DASD commands which could be a 
loaded gun in the hands of the wrong people

Colleen M Brown 
IBM z/VM and Related Products Development and Service 



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I took a look at doc for 140CMDS and 150CMDS and now I see the Y or N 
called out for col 35.  I overlooked that as I did the last time we 
upgraded DIRMAINT.  Mark found it then as he did now.  What I don't 
understand is what appears to be the fact that there are so many places 
in DIRMAINT, both the client side and the server side where 
authorization is granted.  On the client side, there appear to be 
GLOBALV options that can be set and there is also the DIRM NEEDPASS NO 
or YES.  On DIRMAINT, there is the Y or N in the 1x0CMDS DATADVH file 
but there is also the AUTHBY CONTROL file.  The descriptions for all of 
them seem to be scattered in different manuals rather than having a 
section in the Tailoring and Admin. manual.  That makes setup of 
DIRMAINT really messy as does many of the different configuration files.

Jim

Mark Bodenstein wrote:
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 Jim is away in Texas and I'm here minding the shop.  (Though he seems 
 to be reading email, so I won't be surprised if he chimes in.)

 I checked the 140CMDS DATADVH and 150CMDS DATADVH files on the 
 DIRMAINT 11F minidisk on our test VM LPAR which has DirMaint at the 
 z/VM 5.3 level.  These two files had mostly Y's in column 35 for the 
 various commands, indicating that a password was required.  In 
 production (where we don't need to specify passwords) these two files 
 have all N's in column 35.

 So I edited the files to specify N's in column 35, and restarted 
 DIRMAINT.  Voila!  No passwords required.

 This is without doing anything with GLOBALV on the client side.  I 
 checked my GLOBALV files and didn't find NEEDPASS anywhere.

 Just to be sure I also checked the 
 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcsl3b21/9.43
z/VM 
 5.3 
 DirMaint
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcsl3b21/9.43 
 Tailoring and Administration Guide.  NEEDPASS is defined in Table 42 
 as a LASTING GLOBALV variable in pool DVH15 for possible use by 
 DVHCX* and DVHPX* exits in the user's virtual machine (client 
 side).  There's no mention of the NEEDPASS global variable being used 
 by anything other than being available for use by these exits.


 Mark Bodenstein  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Cornell University

 At 10:57 AM 11/12/2007, Alan Altmark wrote:
 
 On Monday, 11/12/2007 at 08:19 EST, Phil Smith III [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 A. Harry Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 No, he's talking about
 GLOBALV SELECT DVH15 SET NEEDPASS NO
 
 OK, I must have misunderstood part of the thread then.  This is the
 
 setting I
 
 was referring to which, as your post goes on to note, doesn't work if
 
 done
 
 SOLELY on the client, because the server still wants a password.
 
 So, from the discussion here, I'm getting the idea that even though
 NEEDPASS NO is remaining set on the client side, upgrading the DIRMAINT
 server somehow causes it to forget its setting for that same client. 
And
 that necessitates yet another NEEDPASS 

Re: Guest access to z9 DVD drive

2007-11-16 Thread David Boyes
If you're using SLES, use the DDR starter system install server. The
throughput of an internal VSWITCH or GLAN is a vast improvement over FTP
to the HMC. 

 



Re: Guest access to z9 DVD drive

2007-11-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 11/16/2007 at 08:51 EST, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 No, I don't believe z/VM 5.3 provides any way for a guest to access the
 DVD drive in the HMC. Sorry.

Correct.  I know the DVD drive in the HMC is a tantalizing morsel, but it 
is a device that belongs to the HMC, not the CEC.  All interactions with 
the DVD are via the HMC.

It would be nice to have a hardware Feature for dual-mode (3422 / FCP) DVD 
drive in the I/O cage, but my guess is that no one would be willing to pay 
that much for a DVD drive.  It's much cheaper to set up a PC in the 
machine room to be an FTP server.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: CPU usage data

2007-11-16 Thread Nick Laflamme

Mary Zervos wrote:
Our director wants a report on our cpu usage asap as our mainframe 
might be heading out the door. We used to run Real Time Monitor.  
We're currently at z/VM 4.4.  Any ideas on what I could quickly fire 
up to monitor our system.
I take it accounting data, which would show CPU use over periods like 
eight hours or a day, wouldn't be granular enough?


Just a thought,
Sir Nick the Ardent


Re: Guest access to z9 DVD drive

2007-11-16 Thread Dave Jones

Hi, Susan.

No, I don't believe z/VM 5.3 provides any way for a guest to access the 
DVD drive in the HMC. Sorry.


Susan Zimmerman wrote:

Hi all,

new with 5.3 is guest access to the HMC ASCII console.

Does anyone know if z/VM provides guest access to the DVD drive?

Thanks in advance.

susan


--
DJ
V/Soft


Re: Notice for z/VM Red Alerts

2007-11-16 Thread Brian Wade
John,

All of the transactions for the page change notify function get handled b
y 
www.vm.ibm.com.  I don't understand how an error on my end could cause yo
u 
to see a DNS error on clicking the Submit button.  After all, DNS must 

have worked for you immediately prior, because we served the enrollment 

form to your browser.  Our data file shows that several people have 
enrolled successfully.  If you retry and it still fails, would you please
 
contact me off-list?  Thanks.

Brian Wade


Re: Can we move existing z/OS processing to z/Linux

2007-11-16 Thread barton

ESALPS runs on IFLs, does lots of network monitoring/performance management 
functions.




Alan Ackerman wrote:


I received the following question from my management:
-

The question is being asked: can we move existing z/OS processing 
(Omegamon? Netview?) to z/Linux to take advantage of IFL engines or other
 
efficiencies? I would expect that the z/Linux image would in turn run 
under z/VM.


So far I have not uncovered any candidates with the possible exception of
 
Netview. Most (all?) of IBM's candidates are middleware products such as 

DB2 Connect. CCL loosely fits the requirements (Communication Controller 


for Linux - the NCP/FEP emulator).

Are you aware of any products? 


Links I have checked:

http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/matrix/

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/linux/IBMSoftwareOnLinux.pdf

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/os/linux/software/

http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/prod_svc.html

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/tivoli/brochures/bc-mng-brd-ra.pdf
--

I replied with:

--
DB2 Server and Java both run on Linux! So for that matter do COBOL, 
FORTRAN, PL/I, C, C++, etc. 

I suspect IBM is not really interested in moving workloads from z/OS to 


z/Linux – which is why you didn’t find anything but middleware in tho
se 
lists. They want mainframe growth, not lateral movement (and perhaps loss
 
of revenue?).

--

Any suggestions? Has anyone tried moving workload from z/OS to z/Linux? 


Any success stories or warnings?

I posted this here, because it is easier to post to the IBMVM list via th
e 
web page than to the LINUX-390 list, and because I know and trust the 
people that respond here. Should I also post the question to LINUX-390?


Alan Ackerman
 
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com





Re: dirm needpass no

2007-11-16 Thread Mark Bodenstein

Thanks Colleen.  Could you please pass this response back to DirMaint Support?

This is our production system, and we certainly want to control who 
can issue DirMaint commands.  The question is the best way to do 
this.  In general we want to make things secure, but also easy to use 
for the few authorized userids.


Note that we do NOT give DirMaint authority to all of our users.  We 
give it to a few systems programmers, and a few staff at the Help 
Desk that are responsible for creating VM userids.


To do this, we use the following DirMaint configuration files:

AUTHFOR CONTROL
AUTHDASD DATADVH

(Jim was probably thinking of AUTHFOR CONTROL when he said AUTHBY CONTROL.)

We also use RACF to restrict access to 5VMDIR30 11F, the DirMaint 
primary interface code disk, to only the userids we intend to have 
DirMaint privileges.


With all of that in place to restrict who can issue DirMaint 
commands, we don't want to also have to have each privileged user 
respond with a password to use DirMaint.


I'll leave it up to Jim to respond to If he would follow the 
documentation given with the product he is informed of everything he 
needs to know about.  First he needs to take more of his blood 
pressure medicine.


Thanks,

Mark Bodenstein  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Cornell University

At 01:56 PM 11/16/2007, you wrote:


From DirMaint Support:

What they have done is made every command be not prompted for a 
password. Which of course is not the way DirMaint typically 
runs.  Someone, probably on the listserv, told them in the past they 
could alter the cmds file to remove them from password 
authorization.  Something which I would typically describe as 
dangerous but perhaps on their education/test system it is what they want.


With this in mind these files are not typical files to be needing 
tailoring at all.  The are tailorable if there is some special case 
which they seem to have.

This is why they are not discussed in the documentation (TAG).

In the case of AUTHBY CONTROL this is built when you use the AUTHBY 
function for BYUSERS.  There are several control files in DirMaint 
which get built because the external command was issued.  Therefore 
there is no need for the customer to be informed of this file.


If he would follow the documentation given with the product he is 
informed of everything he needs to know about.


By default DirMaint requires passwords. The way they operate as 
discussed they are not.  However, if the issue a  NEEDPASS command 
which is an optional command it could confuse the issue.


What I believe they should have done to give everyone access to all 
commands by making every command a GENERAL use command. Then the 
password prompt would not be so confusing.  But as long as they know 
what they have done there is no issue.  Just be aware that this 
could be dangerous.
They are giving access to everyone to DASD commands which could be a 
loaded gun in the hands of the wrong people


Colleen M Brown
IBM z/VM and Related Products Development and Service


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I took a look at doc for 140CMDS and 150CMDS and now I see the Y or N
called out for col 35.  I overlooked that as I did the last time we
upgraded DIRMAINT.  Mark found it then as he did now.  What I don't
understand is what appears to be the fact that there are so many places
in DIRMAINT, both the client side and the server side where
authorization is granted.  On the client side, there appear to be
GLOBALV options that can be set and there is also the DIRM NEEDPASS NO
or YES.  On DIRMAINT, there is the Y or N in the 1x0CMDS DATADVH file
but there is also the AUTHBY CONTROL file.  The descriptions for all of
them seem to be scattered in different manuals rather than having a
section in the Tailoring and Admin. manual.  That makes setup of
DIRMAINT really messy as does many of the different configuration files.

Jim


Re: Question about SMAPI

2007-11-16 Thread John Franciscovich
All true, and I agree. Marcy didn't ask about specific products, and
I did not mean to imply anything about exploiter products and/or
releases; my intent was to clarify things relative to the SMAPI server
virtual machines and z/VM releases.

John Franciscovich
z/VM Development

Well, I guess it depends on what Marcy is intending to do with SMAPI. I
made the assumption that she was asking the question relative to IBM
Director ... but I could obviously be wrong about that?

At this point in time, I don't believe there is a GA IBM Director that
supports the SMAPI socket based server. =20

One reason might be that your provisioning product supports the RPC
server but does not (yet?) support the SMAPI Socket server.
One product in this situation is IBM Director (from IBM).


Re: dirm needpass no

2007-11-16 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
Thanks Colleen.  Could you please pass this response back to DirMaint Support?


I agree with what Alan recommended a week ago now, please open a problem
with the IBM support center and work directly with level 2.   Thanks

Best Regards,
Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development


Re: dirm needpass no

2007-11-16 Thread Colleen Brown
I passed this onto DirMaint support and they have asked that you open a 
PMR.

Colleen M Brown 
IBM z/VM and Related Products Development and Service 



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Thanks Colleen.  Could you please pass this response back to DirMaint 
Support?


I agree with what Alan recommended a week ago now, please open a problem
with the IBM support center and work directly with level 2.   Thanks

Best Regards,
Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development



Re: dirm needpass no

2007-11-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 11/16/2007 at 03:25 EST, Mark Bodenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 This is our production system, and we certainly want to control who can 
issue 
 DirMaint commands.  The question is the best way to do this.  In general 
we 
 want to make things secure, but also easy to use for the few authorized 
userids.

An excellent goal.  DirMaint Support can tell you the right way to do that 
so that your configuration doesn't get hosed on the next Dirmaint upgrade. 
 Or tell you that what you're trying to do isn't supported.  (Maybe it 
involves some of the server exits?)

 With all of that in place to restrict who can issue DirMaint commands, 
we don't 
 want to also have to have each privileged user respond with a password 
to use 
 DirMaint.

This is the specific issue you need to discuss with DirMaint support.  It 
is possible that it is simply a result of switching from R4 command set to 
the R5 command set and will not occur again once all the NEEDPASS NOs have 
been issued.

 I'll leave it up to Jim to respond to If he would follow the 
documentation 
 given with the product he is informed of everything he needs to know 
about.  
 First he needs to take more of his blood pressure medicine.

LOL!  That statement didn't come out exactly the way Doug in Dirmaint 
Support intended it.  He really meant that if you follow the book, all 
those extra files are handled for you rather than you having to 
configure them.  Doug sends his apologies in advance, if his phrasing 
gives offense.  He also asks that you open a PMR so he can figure out what 
your underlying problem is and address that, rather than getting 
sidetracked by tangential issues.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: CMS Pipelins - can SPEC reformat a field with decimal

2007-11-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Nov 15, 2007 10:51 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 great - i got that to work in my PIPE.
 thanks for the direction.

The arithmetic in SPEC is somewhat designed after the IBM 407
Accounting Machine. You will fine a few references to that in The Book
(the CMS/TSO Pipelines: Author's Edition - download the 2007
revision from http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline )

With pipe help specref you do get the same text online, but it is
not the best way to start learning it there. I would rather use it as
a reference when you know most of it already.

Rob