Does z/VM support direct attach over FCP to tape drive?

2010-09-17 Thread ashish agarwal
Hi,
Does z/VM 5.3 support tape drive over FCP? Currently I am using it over FC but 
need to use with FCP, is it possible?


  

Re: Does z/VM support direct attach over FCP to tape drive?

2010-09-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 09/17/2010 at 03:19 EDT, ashish agarwal ashishka...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 Does z/VM 5.3 support tape drive over FCP? Currently I am using it over 
FC but 
 need to use with FCP, is it possible?

Linux guests can use use FCP-attached tape, but not CMS or CP.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott


Re: Does z/VM support direct attach over FCP to tape drive?

2010-09-17 Thread ashish agarwal
Thanks Alan for quick reply and answering my query.

Thanks and Regards
Ashish





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Subject: Re: Does z/VM support direct attach over FCP to tape drive?

On Friday, 09/17/2010 at 03:19 EDT, ashish agarwal ashishka...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 Does z/VM 5.3 support tape drive over FCP? Currently I am using it over 
FC but 
 need to use with FCP, is it possible?

Linux guests can use use FCP-attached tape, but not CMS or CP.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott



  

Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-17 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Terry wrote,

 it is imperative that you have a robust paging subsystem

I do not claim great knowledge in z/VM performance matters.

Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise (Thomas Gray)

Does z/VM, unlike z/OS, still need to do a lot of paging?

In the z/OS world paging has become virtually(no pun intended :-)) 
non-existent.

So what's all this  fuss about paging in z/VM. 

True, you still need enough page space defined on disk to back storage. 
But after that there should be little to nil paging going on at least in 
the z/OS, MVS world.

I know years ago there were problems with the handshaking between MVS and 
VM.

The problem being it was virtually :-) non-existent, unlike VSE which had 
the VM/VSE Feature.

So that whenever an MVS address space got a page fault, the entire MVS 
virtual machine was swapped out.

But, I thought, that was addressed :-) years ago and today z/VM is aware 
of such things.

So, then why the need for a robust paging subsystem.

It all kinda leaves you starry-eyed and vaguely discontented.

 



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I would just add that for any significant number of z/Linux guests it is 
imperative that you have a robust paging subsystem and enough spool space 
to hold CP dumps as well as other spool files. 

Having a well configured paging subsystem will greatly reduce the 
possibility of issues when your system has a high paging rate due to the 
over commitment of Available Real Memory versus the total memory of all 
users running in the LPAR combined.

The higher this over commitment ratio the more paging is introduced. The 
good news is as long as you have a sufficient paging subsystem z/VM 
handles paging nicely even at relatively high rates. So over commitment of 
real memory in z/VM is good just keep an eye out so that the ratio stays 
within reason. 

 

 

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Citic
z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support
Office - 443 348-2102
Cell - 443 632-4191


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Output of Q  SRM

q srm
IABIAS : INTENSITY=90%; DURATION=2
LDUBUF : Q1=100% Q2=75% Q3=60%
STORBUF: Q1=300% Q2=250% Q3=200%
DSPBUF : Q1=32767 Q2=32767 Q3=32767
DISPATCHING MINOR TIMESLICE = 5 MS
MAXWSS : LIMIT=%
.. : PAGES=99
XSTORE : 0%
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:49:05


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com 
wrote:
 Hi, Daniel.

 The answer to your first question is to use the CP FORCE command (HELP
 CP FORCE will tell you all about it.) The VM user id issuing the FORCE
 command needs to have privilege class A as well.  Usually this is done
 from either MAINT or OPERATOR.

 The answer to your second question is a bit more difficult, I'm afraid.
 As Marcy has already suggested, what does a Q SRM command show? My first
 guess would be that your SLES11 guest is falling into Q3 and never given
 an opportunity to run.

 To find out *why* the guest is not able to run, you need the services of
 a good z/VM performance monitor.IBM offers the Performance Monitor
 (it comes bundles with z/VM, but it's an extra cost offering) and
 Velocity Software (http://www.velocity-software.com/) has a very good
 suite of products as well. IMHO it' practically impossible to run a
 modern production grade z/VM-zLinux system without a good performance
 monitor to help solve issues like the one your having now.

 On 09/15/2010 05:14 PM, Daniel Tate wrote:
 We're starting to run apps on the servers now.  From time to time a
 guest will become unresponsive - to be more precise, ,the CP will not
 respond to commands, and neither will the guest OS (SLES11).   not
 even #CP LOGOFF is acknowledged.   from another login, CP INDIIC LOAD
 shows no appreciable load.

 Two questions from this:

 1) how would I force a logoff of a user from another user?  Is this 
possible?
 2) if we are not paging and the IFLs are not loaded (2-3% utilization
 as a matter of fact) what could the bottleneck be?


 --
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 V/Soft Software
 www.vsoft-software.com
 Houston, TX
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Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-17 Thread Mark Post
 On 9/17/2010 at 09:24 AM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com
wrote: 
 Does z/VM, unlike z/OS, still need to do a lot of paging?
 
 In the z/OS world paging has become virtually(no pun intended :-)) 
 non-existent.

z/VM does very little paging (if not zero) on behalf of itself.  Because z/VM 
allows considerable overcommit of storage among the various guests, it can wind 
up doing a _lot_ of paging to manage all that.  If you ever started using z/OS 
as a hypervisor, it would have the same problem, unless you strictly limited 
the amount of virtual storage each guest had to add up to less than the 
available real storage.


Mark Post


HCPMCV1459E trying to IPL a z/VM guest with CPU Type = IFL

2010-09-17 Thread Imler, Steven J
We have several z/VM test systems that run either z/VM 5.3, 5.4, or 6.1.
All the systems run as guests in the same LPAR under the same z/VM 5.4
host.  Of the several, we have only ONE that cannot be reconfigured to
run in VCONFIG set to LINUX and CPU type set to IFL.  This particular
system would be running z/VM 5.4 if it would IPL.  Here's the attempt to
IPL:

 

 snip 

SET VCONFIG MODE LINUX

MODE = LINUX

Storage cleared - system reset.

DEFINE CPU 0 TYPE IFL

CPU 00 redefined as TYPE IFL

Storage cleared - system reset.

Q CPUS

CPU 00  ID  FF04E00020978000 (BASE) STOPPED IFL  CPUAFF ON

IPL 

 

Do you want to IPL the guest? (Yes|No)

yes

Just one moment... .

CTCA 0551 COUPLED TO VRSCS 0551

CTCA 0553 COUPLED TO SS2 1501

HCPMCV1459E The virtual machine is placed in system check-stop state

 snip 

 

As I said, every other one of our test systems IPLs fine with this
reconfiguration.  The only thing that is obviously different in this
guest's directory entry from the others that work is:

 

- STDEVOPT LIBRARY CTL

 

JR (Steven) Imler
CA 
Sr Sustaining Engineer
Tel:  +1-703-708-3479
steven.im...@ca.com
mailto:steven.im...@ca.com  http://www.ca.com/ 

 



Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

2010-09-17 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Yes, and the original statement was based on the assumption that the
over commitment of real memory was high. Obviously if there is little to
no over commitment than you will see very little paging from z/VM on
behalf of the users. 

I will also add that even in z/OS say you are running a good size DB2
environment if you do not have ample real storage you will still see
paging for sure to your paging subsystem and without expanded storage no
longer available in z/OS it will go right to DASD. 

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Citic
z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support
Office - 443 348-2102
Cell - 443 632-4191


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Subject: Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests

 On 9/17/2010 at 09:24 AM, George Henke/NYLIC
george_he...@newyorklife.com
wrote: 
 Does z/VM, unlike z/OS, still need to do a lot of paging?
 
 In the z/OS world paging has become virtually(no pun intended :-)) 
 non-existent.

z/VM does very little paging (if not zero) on behalf of itself.  Because
z/VM allows considerable overcommit of storage among the various guests,
it can wind up doing a _lot_ of paging to manage all that.  If you ever
started using z/OS as a hypervisor, it would have the same problem,
unless you strictly limited the amount of virtual storage each guest had
to add up to less than the available real storage.


Mark Post


Automated Logon (autofill userid and password) using TN3270 of TCP/IP for VM or Logical Device

2010-09-17 Thread Michel Beaulieu

Hello, 

 

We are not using an External Security Manager(no ESM).

 

I am trying to see if it is possible to do the following: 

 

 

1. Logon to CMS with userid'A' 

2. (Get userid'B' and password through some authorized method)

3. using the telnet command (in transparent mode) and automatically login to 
userid'B'.

4. (do some work with userid'B' interacting with the physical person) 

5. logoff userid'B' and return control to userid'A'

 

I could probably achieve what I want by programming using Logical Device and 
doing the logon in my code.

Then I have to manage all the 3270 conversation from beginning to end.

 

I am just wandering if such a solution already exists. 

 

I would hate to re-invent something like that.

 

Thanks!

 

Michel Beaulieu

Montreal, Canada

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Question about SYSTEM.CONFIG User_Volume_List

2010-09-17 Thread Daniel Allen
Do the volumes in the SYSTEM.CONFIG User_Volume_List have to be in UCB order ?



Re: Question about SYSTEM.CONFIG User_Volume_List

2010-09-17 Thread Dave Jones
No, they do not.

On 09/17/2010 12:56 PM, Daniel Allen wrote:
 Do the volumes in the SYSTEM.CONFIG User_Volume_List have to be in UCB order ?
 

-- 
Dave Jones
V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544


Re: Question about SYSTEM.CONFIG User_Volume_List

2010-09-17 Thread Daniel Allen
Thanks, Dave.

-Original Message-
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Of Dave Jones
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:05 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Question about SYSTEM.CONFIG User_Volume_List

No, they do not.

On 09/17/2010 12:56 PM, Daniel Allen wrote:
 Do the volumes in the SYSTEM.CONFIG User_Volume_List have to be in UCB order ?
 

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Dave Jones
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Houston, TX
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Re: Automated Logon (autofill userid and password) using TN3270 of TCP/IP for VM or Logical Device

2010-09-17 Thread Mike Walter
One possibility (without any ESM's) might be to place a directory 
statement in USERB's directory reading: LOGONBY USERA

That would permit USERA to LOGONBY to USERB, but with CP asking for 
USERA's own logon password.  That would permit the TELNET logon to be 
automated right up until USERA's own logon password is required.

Do you fully understand that when USERA logs onto USERB, they have all the 
resources and authorizations of USERB?  After all, they have actually 
LOGGED ON as USERB.  If USERB has privclass A, then whomever logs onto 
USERB can SHUTDOWN the system.  And USERA can see (and erase, and restore 
- even old files) all the files to which USERB has access.

Think the access and authorizations through very carefully before 
venturing down this path.  Perhaps if you could explain your requirement 
for such a facility, then we could provide more suitable alternative 
solutions to the actual requirement?

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.



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Hello, 
 
We are not using an External Security Manager(no ESM).
 
I am trying to see if it is possible to do the following: 
 
 
1. Logon to CMS with userid'A' 
2. (Get userid'B' and password through some authorized method)
3. using the telnet command (in transparent mode) and automatically login 
to userid'B'.
4. (do some work with userid'B' interacting with the physical person) 
5. logoff userid'B' and return control to userid'A'
 
I could probably achieve what I want by programming using Logical Device 
and doing the logon in my code.
Then I have to manage all the 3270 conversation from beginning to end.
 
I am just wandering if such a solution already exists. 
 
I would hate to re-invent something like that.
 
Thanks!
 
Michel Beaulieu
Montreal, Canada
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Re: Automated Logon (autofill userid and password) using TN3270 of TCP/IP for VM or Logical Device

2010-09-17 Thread Michel Beaulieu

Hi Mike, 

 

You do understand pretty well. 

 

Normally userA is a general user with no special authority. 

 

Then some action need to be taken on a service machine. 

One simple way is to logon to the service machine. 

 

I can do LOGONBY or simple logon to the target machine, 

however, I want to simplify the process and at the same time hide the logon and 
password.

 

I do know about the SECUSER capability, I would prefer to be able to do some 
fullscreen interaction.

 

Michel Beaulieu

 


 
 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:38:38 -0500
 From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
 Subject: Re: Automated Logon (autofill userid and password) using TN3270 of 
 TCP/IP for VM or Logical Device
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 
 One possibility (without any ESM's) might be to place a directory 
 statement in USERB's directory reading: LOGONBY USERA
 
 That would permit USERA to LOGONBY to USERB, but with CP asking for 
 USERA's own logon password. That would permit the TELNET logon to be 
 automated right up until USERA's own logon password is required.
 
 Do you fully understand that when USERA logs onto USERB, they have all the 
 resources and authorizations of USERB? After all, they have actually 
 LOGGED ON as USERB. If USERB has privclass A, then whomever logs onto 
 USERB can SHUTDOWN the system. And USERA can see (and erase, and restore 
 - even old files) all the files to which USERB has access.
 
 Think the access and authorizations through very carefully before 
 venturing down this path. Perhaps if you could explain your requirement 
 for such a facility, then we could provide more suitable alternative 
 solutions to the actual requirement?
 
 Mike Walter
 Hewitt Associates
 The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
 
 
 
 Michel Beaulieu beaulieumic...@live.ca 
 
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 Hello, 
 
 We are not using an External Security Manager(no ESM).
 
 I am trying to see if it is possible to do the following: 
 
 
 1. Logon to CMS with userid'A' 
 2. (Get userid'B' and password through some authorized method)
 3. using the telnet command (in transparent mode) and automatically login 
 to userid'B'.
 4. (do some work with userid'B' interacting with the physical person) 
 5. logoff userid'B' and return control to userid'A'
 
 I could probably achieve what I want by programming using Logical Device 
 and doing the logon in my code.
 Then I have to manage all the 3270 conversation from beginning to end.
 
 I am just wandering if such a solution already exists. 
 
 I would hate to re-invent something like that.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Michel Beaulieu
 Montreal, Canada
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Re: Automated Logon (autofill userid and password) using TN3270 of TCP/IP for VM or Logical Device

2010-09-17 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:50:30PM -0400,Michel Beaulieu Wrote:

} Normally userA is a general user with no special authority. 
} 
} Then some action need to be taken on a service machine. 
} 
} One simple way is to logon to the service machine. 

In general this is not a very good idea, for security and a host of
other reasons.

The way this is often done is to have a program such as WAKEUP running
in the service machine (SVM) which waits for an event (typically an SMSG
from userA which requests something), does the requested work, returns
the result (spool file or SMSG), and waits for the next request.

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Re: Automated Logon (autofill userid and password) using TN3270 of TCP/IP for VM or Logical Device

2010-09-17 Thread Les Koehler
The big advantage for a SVM is that you have as much granularity over the 
commands it will accept, and from whom, as you want to program into it.
Going open kimono via UserB is not a good idea (as others have pointed out), 
no matter how attractive it might sound. You won't pass the most trivial audit 
and will probably be job hunting real soon.


I can't think of anything that *requires* full-screen. It might be a little more 
complicated but you can always use Xedit and coding to interact with UserB 
almost as if they were logged on to UserB. That's not trivial but it is doable.


Once you get used to the idea of:
  Send some command
  Get a response (MSG or RDR)
  Send another command
  Get another response

you'd be amazed at how natural it can become. I did a *lot* of it before I 
retired!

Les

Rich Greenberg wrote:

On: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:50:30PM -0400,Michel Beaulieu Wrote:

} Normally userA is a general user with no special authority. 
} 
} Then some action need to be taken on a service machine. 
} 
} One simple way is to logon to the service machine. 


In general this is not a very good idea, for security and a host of
other reasons.

The way this is often done is to have a program such as WAKEUP running
in the service machine (SVM) which waits for an event (typically an SMSG
from userA which requests something), does the requested work, returns
the result (spool file or SMSG), and waits for the next request.



A little OT z/LIINUX

2010-09-17 Thread Tom Huegel
Looking for a little help.
I'm trying to install a z/LINUX (SUSE 10) and things went along well to
install the starter system and start CLIENT.. but what next?
These are the last messages I get from the CLIENT.

  ***  sshd has been started  ***


  ***  login using 'ssh -X r...@172.17.51.121'  ***
  ***  run 'yast' to start the installation  ***

At this point what do I do?

The 3270 screen won't take any input.
If I try to PuTTY into the CLIENT I cannot connect.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Tom


Re: A little OT z/LIINUX

2010-09-17 Thread Bhemidhi, Ashwin
May be a  network configuration issue? Is the client ping'able from your PC?  
Check all your network configurations z/VM, vswitch and parm file and make sure 
they are correct.  If you are using a vswitch make sure you grant guess access 
to the vswitch.


You may be able to get a shell from 3270 session it you hit enter couple of 
time. If you are able to, then you could also enter some Linux commands to 
check. Since the 3270 is a line mode console remember NOT to enter any commands 
that will require interaction, example vi.

Ashwin


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Subject: A little OT z/LIINUX

Looking for a little help.
I'm trying to install a z/LINUX (SUSE 10) and things went along well to install 
the starter system and start CLIENT.. but what next?
These are the last messages I get from the CLIENT.

  ***  sshd has been started  ***


  ***  login using 'ssh -X r...@172.17.51.121'mailto:r...@172.17.51.121'  
***
  ***  run 'yast' to start the installation  ***

At this point what do I do?

The 3270 screen won't take any input.
If I try to PuTTY into the CLIENT I cannot connect.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Tom


Re: A little OT z/LIINUX

2010-09-17 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability)
Use Putty to connect to 172.17.71.121
When prompted for the user ID enter root
And when prompted for the password enter the password you supplied when you 
configured the client.

Putty can be downloaded from many places try here 
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html

Larry Davis

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Of Tom Huegel
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:15 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: A little OT z/LIINUX

Looking for a little help.
I'm trying to install a z/LINUX (SUSE 10) and things went along well to install 
the starter system and start CLIENT.. but what next?
These are the last messages I get from the CLIENT.

  ***  sshd has been started  ***


  ***  login using 'ssh -X r...@172.17.51.121'mailto:r...@172.17.51.121'  
***
  ***  run 'yast' to start the installation  ***

At this point what do I do?

The 3270 screen won't take any input.
If I try to PuTTY into the CLIENT I cannot connect.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Tom


Re: A little OT z/LIINUX

2010-09-17 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability)
Make sure the firewall allows port 22 and that the netmask at the switch allows 
addresses to the OSA

If you are using a VSWITCH enter the command Q VSWITCH switch name DETAIL and 
paste  the response here.

Also , if you are using a VSWITCH did you authorize the client (VM user ID) 
access to the vswitch.




Larry Davis

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Tom Huegel
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:15 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: A little OT z/LIINUX

Looking for a little help.
I'm trying to install a z/LINUX (SUSE 10) and things went along well to install 
the starter system and start CLIENT.. but what next?
These are the last messages I get from the CLIENT.

  ***  sshd has been started  ***


  ***  login using 'ssh -X r...@172.17.51.121'mailto:r...@172.17.51.121'  
***
  ***  run 'yast' to start the installation  ***

At this point what do I do?

The 3270 screen won't take any input.
If I try to PuTTY into the CLIENT I cannot connect.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Tom


Re: A little OT z/LIINUX

2010-09-17 Thread Tom Huegel
I can ping the CLIENT from CMS, also from CMS I can Telnet to the CLIENT (it
gets rejected by LINUX).

I'm quite sure the VSWITCH isn't a problem.. I guess my question has been
answered.. It's the network guys ... AGAIN.


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability) 
larry.dav...@hp.com wrote:

  Make sure the firewall allows port 22 and that the netmask at the switch
 allows addresses to the OSA



 If you are using a VSWITCH enter the command Q VSWITCH switch name DETAIL
 and paste  the response here.



 Also , if you are using a VSWITCH did you authorize the client (VM user ID)
 access to the vswitch.









 Larry Davis**



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 Behalf Of *Tom Huegel
 *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 5:15 PM
 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* A little OT z/LIINUX



 Looking for a little help.

 I'm trying to install a z/LINUX (SUSE 10) and things went along well to
 install the starter system and start CLIENT.. but what next?

 These are the last messages I get from the CLIENT.



   ***  sshd has been started  ***


   ***  login using 'ssh -X r...@172.17.51.121'  ***
   ***  run 'yast' to start the installation  ***



 At this point what do I do?



 The 3270 screen won't take any input.

 If I try to PuTTY into the CLIENT I cannot connect.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks

 Tom



Re: A little OT z/LIINUX

2010-09-17 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability)
The reason Linux rejects the telnet from CMS is TELNET on CMS is using port 23 
and Linux is only excepting connections on port 22 for SSH you can telnet to 
the linux image on port 22 from CMS using the command
TELNET host 22
See if you get a connection, or at least a message that the client refused 
connection.

If you are using a windows machine try to ping and tracert from your PC to the 
Linux image send this data to the network guys

Larry Davis

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Tom Huegel
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:33 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: A little OT z/LIINUX

I can ping the CLIENT from CMS, also from CMS I can Telnet to the CLIENT (it 
gets rejected by LINUX).

I'm quite sure the VSWITCH isn't a problem.. I guess my question has been 
answered.. It's the network guys ... AGAIN.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability) 
larry.dav...@hp.commailto:larry.dav...@hp.com wrote:
Make sure the firewall allows port 22 and that the netmask at the switch allows 
addresses to the OSA

If you are using a VSWITCH enter the command Q VSWITCH switch name DETAIL and 
paste  the response here.

Also , if you are using a VSWITCH did you authorize the client (VM user ID) 
access to the vswitch.




Larry Davis

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
[mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Tom Huegel
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:15 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: A little OT z/LIINUX

Looking for a little help.
I'm trying to install a z/LINUX (SUSE 10) and things went along well to install 
the starter system and start CLIENT.. but what next?
These are the last messages I get from the CLIENT.

  ***  sshd has been started  ***


  ***  login using 'ssh -X r...@172.17.51.121'mailto:r...@172.17.51.121'  
***
  ***  run 'yast' to start the installation  ***

At this point what do I do?

The 3270 screen won't take any input.
If I try to PuTTY into the CLIENT I cannot connect.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Tom



Re: Automated Logon (autofill userid and password) using TN3270 of TCP/IP for VM or Logical Device

2010-09-17 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 04:34:15PM -0400,Rich Greenberg Wrote:

} The way this is often done is to have a program such as WAKEUP running
} in the service machine (SVM) which waits for an event (typically an SMSG
} from userA which requests something), does the requested work, returns
} the result (spool file or SMSG), and waits for the next request.

P.S. to above:  If you ask 25 experienced, long time VM sysprogs, 
if they have such a program, you will probably get 30 or so different
ones.  Even IBM has one which ISTR is called VMUTIL EXEC and frequently
runs in a userid of the same name.

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Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-17 Thread Rick Barlow
Does this mean that IBM will finally create PDFs for all of the old products
that only have BOO files?

Rick Barlow

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote:

 In order to reduce expenses, reduce the amount of time it takes to produce
 softcopy documentation, and eliminate dependencies on
 soon-to-be-unsupported internal tools (nothing to do with BookManager READ
 software), we are thinking about eliminating BOOK (.boo) files from z/VM
 softcopy production.

 The z/VM Information Center and PDF files would still be produced.

 Does this create a hardship for anyone?  If not, no need to speak up.  If
 yes, details please.  If you prefer to respond offline, feel free.

 Regards,
  Alan

 z/VM Development (T - 13 days)
 IBM Endicott