Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
Hi, George. Sorry by the delay: I had problems with my email server for the last days... To find corrections, I follow the IBM instructions; one page forward to the next. For this especific case, see the road: 1- http://www.vm.ibm.com Click Service 2-http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/ Click Preventive Service Planning (PSP) Buckets search 3-Search for: z196 4-On section Preventive Service Planning: Click Upgrade 2817DEVICE, Subset 2817/ZVM 5-To order the corrections, return to item 2, and see IBM ShopzSeries It's all. Good luck. __ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 05/11/2010 18:58 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU tyvm, MIke. This is very helpful. But how did you navigate to this page on the site? gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/05/2010 04:27 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Mike, The PSP shows 12 Apars at level 1000, Means not in RSU yet. Some for R540, others for R610. See: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=1209dc=DB540q1=z196uid=isg1_2817DEVICE_2817-ZVM To check what are missing, I create one file (named SERVICE $STALIST) with all the Apars (one by line) and use only one command to search all. See HELP VMSES SERVICE... This list: VM64881 VM64879 VM64774 VM64820 VM64656 VM64793 VM64672 VM64747 VM64798 VM64807 VM64799 PK97799 Command: SERVICE ALL STATUS LIST You will see some missing. See on the PSP if they are for your release. Is the more secure way I know... No need to new execs... Good luck. __ Clovis Michael MacIsaac ---05/11/2010 17:12:45---Hello list, I'm trying to verify that I've got all the latest service for the z196. I From: Michael MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 05/11/2010 17:12 Subject: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Hello list, I'm trying to verify that I've got all the latest service for the z196. I start with a z/VM 6.1 system that is up to the latest RSU, service level 1002. == q cplevel z/VM Version 6 Release 1.0, service level 1002 (64-bit) Generated at 11/05/10 13:53:17 EDT IPL at 11/05/10 14:50:40 EDT Then, disregarding HCD and HCM, I believe the list of APARs to apply is VM64774 VM64798 VM64879 VM64881 VM64793 VM64820 VM64814 VM64807 VM64799. I order them from ShopZseries and SERVICE ALL/PUT2PROD them. I SHUTDOWN REIPL then write and run a short EXEC to verify: == type check910 exec /* EXEC to check for z196 PTFs */ 'service cp status VM64774' 'service cp status VM64798' 'service cp status VM64879' 'service cp status VM64881' 'service cp status VM64793' 'service perftk status VM64820' 'service cp status VM64814' 'service cms status VM64799' == check910 VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64774 (PTF UM33169) status: VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED 11/05/10 13:52:51 VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED 11/05/10 13:52:52 VMFSRV1226IBUILT 11/05/10 13:53:57 VMFSRV1226IPUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:55:55 VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64798 (PTF UM33153) status: VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED 11/05/10 13:13:20 VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED 11/05/10 13:13:22 VMFSRV1226IBUILT 11/05/10 13:15:43 VMFSRV1226IPUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:19:25 VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64879 (PTF UM33172) status: VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED 11/05/10 13:52:51 VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED 11/05/10 13:52:52 VMFSRV1226IBUILT 11/05/10 13:53:57 VMFSRV1226IPUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:55:55 VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64881 (PTF UM33184) status: VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED 11/05/10 13:52:51 VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED 11/05/10 13:52:52 VMFSRV1226IBUILT 11/05/10 13:53:57 VMFSRV1226IPUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:55:55 VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64793 (PTF UM33093) status: VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED 11/05/10 13:13:20 VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED 11/05/10 13:13:22 VMFSRV1226IBUILT 11/05/10 13:15:43 VMFSRV1226IPUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:19:25 VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started VMFSRV1226I PERFTK (6VMPTK10%PERFTK) APAR VM64820 (PTF UM33158) status: VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED 11/05/10 13:53:24 VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED
Re: BRP
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:10:49 -0800, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrot e: In essence, we will be breaking the connections with the main system at a time not previously disclosed to us, and will not be allowed to go back to it or reference anything on it for the duration of the test. We will have to resync the dasd after the test has been completed. The main system will stay up and running so that those who are not part of the test can continue working. If you'll indulge me, I have a side question: When you break the replication in order to perform a DR test this puts updates to your production site at risk of loss should a real disaster occur during your DR test. Is there something else in your setup that elimtates this risk or has management signed off on the risk? To eliminate the risk I would expect a setup whereby the mirrored copy gets flashed to a tertiary copy and the DR test conducted from the tertiary copy and replication is never broken. If you have an alternate setup that eliminates the risk I would be interested in what it is. Brian Nielsen
Re: BRP
It does indeed leave a window open; however, I am not setting the rules. The ones who do are aware of it and are willing to accept the risk. They have set the parameters such that we must get the system back up within 12 hours, and that the system brought up be no more than 24 hours out of step. That is fully met by the test plans and does not require the additional hardware (3100+ devices) needed to create the tertiary copy. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 7:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU `-+`` On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:10:49 -0800, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrot= e: In essence, we will be breaking the connections with the main system at a time not previously disclosed to us, and will not be allowed to go back to it or reference anything on it for the duration of the test. We will have to resync the dasd after the test has been completed. The main system will stay up and running so that those who are not part of the test can continue working. If you'll indulge me, I have a side question: When you break the replication in order to perform a DR test this puts updates to your production site at risk of loss should a real disaster occur during your = DR test. Is there something else in your setup that elimtates this risk = or has management signed off on the risk? To eliminate the risk I would expect a setup whereby the mirrored copy = gets flashed to a tertiary copy and the DR test conducted from the tertiary copy and replication is never broken. If you have an alternate setup that eliminates the risk I would be interested in what it is. Brian Nielsen
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
George, That is a correction for a NON-SES product: EREP. Not managed by SERVICE/PUT2PROD. See Service Guide how to apply NON-SES PTFs. __ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 08/11/2010 14:24 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU All 14 z196 compatibility APARs listed below went on fine except for PK97799. SES says there is not service for this APAR. How can there be no service? SERVICE USERID: MAINT Date: 11/05/10Time: 23:52:46 ST:VMFSRV2195I SERVICE ALL 2817HLA ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI1200I No SERVICE record was found for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:in table VM SYSSUF ST:VMFSUI1206I Service was not installed for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully for product ST:5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI1200I No SERVICE record was found for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:in table VM SYSSUF ST:VMFSUI1206I Service was not installed for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully for product ST:5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully ST:VMFSUT2760I VMFSUFTB processing started ST:VMFSUT2760I VMFSUFTB processing completed successfully ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully George Henke/NYLIC 11/05/2010 11:27 PM To The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196Link Well the list of z196 (alias 2817) compatibility APARs has grown. Here are all 14 now in alphanumeric order: PK97799 VM64656 VM64672 VM64747 VM64774 VM64793 VM64798 VM64799 VM64807 VM64818 VM64820 VM64879 VM64881 VM64891 btw: The only way I could find the page in the link Clovis supplied was by searching SHOPZ on 2817 the other name for a z196. Les Geer (607-429-3580) g...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/05/2010 04:40 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 I thought VM64798, VM64879, and VM64881 were the only APARs needed for z196 compatibility for z/VM 5.4. You are 6.1 so maybe it is different. But if not, I better find out fast. The above lists the minimum CP APARs (for 5.4 and 6.1) required to apply prior to IPLing on a z196. Mike is listing CMS, PerfKit, and pre-requisite APARs. Since the above list was generated, CP APAR VM64891 should also be applied. Also, to add to Mike's pre-requisite list below, VM64818. Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development Hello list, I'm trying to verify that I've got all the latest service for the z196. I start with a z/VM 6.1 system that is up to the latest RSU, service level 1002. == q cplevel z/VM Version 6 Release 1.0, service level 1002 (64-bit) Generated at 11/05/10 13:53:17 EDT IPL at 11/05/10 14:50:40 EDT Then, disregarding HCD and HCM, I believe the list of APARs to apply is VM64774 VM64798 VM64879 VM64881 VM64793 VM64820 VM64814 VM64807 VM64799. I order them from ShopZseries and SERVICE ALL/PUT2PROD them. I SHUTDOWN REIPL then write and run a short EXEC to verify: == type check910 exec /* EXEC to check for z196 PTFs */ 'service cp status VM64774' 'service cp status VM64798' 'service cp status VM64879' 'service cp status VM64881' 'service cp status VM64793' 'service perftk status VM64820' 'service cp status VM64814' 'service cms status VM64799' == check910 VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64774 (PTF UM33169) status: VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED 11/05/10 13:52:51 VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED 11/05/10 13:52:52 VMFSRV1226IBUILT 11/05/10 13:53:57 VMFSRV1226IPUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:55:55 VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64798 (PTF UM33153) status: VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED 11/05/10 13:13:20 VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
ty, Clovis, but PK97799 is not an EREP APAR. VM64807 (#3 below) is the Non-SES EREP APAR to which I believe you refer. I was able to apply VM64807 following the instructions in the EREP PGMDIR which were quite good. PK97799 (#1 below), however, is an HLASM SES APAR which I have been told did not go on because I probably do not have HLASM on z/VM. This screen shot from: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=1209dc=DB540q1=z196uid=isg1_2817DEVICE_2817-ZVM shows the details: 12 10/09/22 VM64881 UM33183 1000 VM COUPLING FACILITY HANG AT IP 11 10/09/08 VM64879 UM33171 1000 Z196 PROCESSOR SUPPORT D/T2817 10 10/09/08 VM64774 UM33167 1000 SET/QUERY REORDER COMMAND ( D/T2 9 10/09/07 VM64820 UM33157 1000 NEW FUNCTION IN PERFORMANCE TOOL 8 10/09/02 VM64656 UM32881 1000 NEW FUNCTION - D/T2817 7 10/09/02 VM64793 UM33092 1000 NEW FUNCTION - D/T2817 6. 10/08/31 VM64672 UM90236 1000 NEW FUNCTION - SUPPORT IS 5. 10/08/31 VM64747 UM90237 1000 NEW FUNCTION - HCM SUPPORTS 4 10/08/31 VM64798 UM33151 1000 Z196 PROCESSOR SUPPORT D/T2817 3 10/08/25 VM64807 UV6 1000 NEW FUNCTION - SUPPORT NEW CPU M 2 10/08/25 VM64799 UM33139 1000 IOCP NEW FUNCTION 1. 10/08/19 PK97799 UK59301 1000 HLASM SUPPORT FOR IBM ZENTERPRIS gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/12/2010 02:56 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 George, That is a correction for a NON-SES product: EREP. Not managed by SERVICE/PUT2PROD. See Service Guide how to apply NON-SES PTFs. __ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 08/11/2010 14:24 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU All 14 z196 compatibility APARs listed below went on fine except for PK97799. SES says there is not service for this APAR. How can there be no service? SERVICE USERID: MAINT Date: 11/05/10Time: 23:52:46 ST:VMFSRV2195I SERVICE ALL 2817HLA ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI1200I No SERVICE record was found for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:in table VM SYSSUF ST:VMFSUI1206I Service was not installed for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully for product ST:5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI1200I No SERVICE record was found for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:in table VM SYSSUF ST:VMFSUI1206I Service was not installed for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully for product ST:5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully ST:VMFSUT2760I VMFSUFTB processing started ST:VMFSUT2760I VMFSUFTB processing completed successfully ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully George Henke/NYLIC 11/05/2010 11:27 PM To The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196Link Well the list of z196 (alias 2817) compatibility APARs has grown. Here are all 14 now in alphanumeric order: PK97799 VM64656 VM64672 VM64747 VM64774 VM64793 VM64798 VM64799 VM64807 VM64818 VM64820 VM64879 VM64881 VM64891 btw: The only way I could find the page in the link Clovis supplied was by searching SHOPZ on 2817 the other name for a z196. Les Geer (607-429-3580) g...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/05/2010 04:40 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 I thought VM64798, VM64879, and VM64881 were the only APARs needed for z196 compatibility for z/VM 5.4. You are 6.1 so maybe it is different. But if not, I better find out fast. The above lists the minimum CP APARs (for 5.4 and 6.1) required to apply prior to IPLing on a z196. Mike is listing CMS,
Re: Streamlining the IPL
I IPLed as Kris suggested: Q V CONS#SYSTEM RESET#TERM CONMODE 3270 IPL 125B LOADPARM CONS My cons was 0009. But it made no difference I put the commands in the OPERATOR directory but it made no difference. I put them in the 2d Level Machine directory, VMUVM, itself and it still made no difference. I suspect the problem may be that I am running 2d Level. z/OS has the IMSI (Initialization Message Suppression Indicator). Set it to M and you are off and running. z/OS IPLs without any operator intervention. I guess I am looking for something like that in z/VM, but it may not exist, at least not at Level 2. But I will try again next week. Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/11/2010 04:40 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Streamlining the IPL Good job, Mikethat explains it. George, the CP commands in the directory entry will certainly be executed long before CMS gets a chance to IPL and run it's own PROFILE EXEC file. Will the CP commands get executed before the OPERATOR's console fills up with IPL time messages, that I don't know. On 11/11/2010 03:34 PM, George Henke/NYLIC wrote: That explains it Mike. All these instances were before the PROFILE EXEC started which kinda defeats the purpose. I will put the commands in the DIRECTORY with the hope that it will kick in earlier, before the PROFILE EXEC starts. *Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com* Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/11/2010 04:27 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Streamlining the IPL Well, George, it's set the way you want it, at that moment in time. But that's only set once the OPERATOR virtual machine has been constructed in compliance with the CP Directory statements defining its parameters, it has logged on, IPLed CMS, and run through the PROFILE EXEC through the point of executing that 'CP TERM HOLD OFF MORE 0 0'. Sidebar: TERM is an abbreviation, better to spell out all commands in EXECs fully, in this case as: 'CP TERMINAL HOLD OFF MORE 0 0' REXX performs marginally better when all commands are quoted, uppercased, and fully spelled out (no abbrevs). But mostly, if you do that as a matter of course and ever have to scan MDISKs for all references to a particular command, the search is dramatically reduced if abbreviations don't have to be scanned for! I'd try placing the command in the directory entry of OPERATOR as others have mentioned before. That reduces, but does not totally eliminate, the narrow time window between the IPL messages being displayed and OPERATOR getting logged on and entering that command. Would you mind copy/pasting the IPL messages from the very first one through where OPERATOR gets logged on, maybe just a little more, too? And... what model 3270 emulator terminal is being used for OPERATOR? E.g. a MOD2, MOD3, MOD4, MOD5, or some other? If other, how many lines does that terminal display? Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/11/2010 03:11 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Streamlining the IPL q term 16:09:56 LINEND # , LINEDEL ยข , CHARDEL @ , ESCAPE , TABCHAR ] 16:09:56 LINESIZE 080, ATTN OFF, APL OFF, TEXT OFF, MODE VM, HILIGHT OFF 16:09:56 CONMODE 3215, BREAKIN IMMED , BRKKEY PA1 , SCRNSAVE OFF 16:09:56 AUTOCR ON , MORE 000 000, HOLD OFF, TIMESTAMP CP , SYS3270 OFF Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:09:56 Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/11/2010 04:08 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Streamlining the IPL What does ?Q TERM? show? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Streamlining the IPL Everything looks good except for 'MORE processing. Although the OPERATOR screen does not got to HOLD, it waits the default 50 seconds before scrolling to the next screen. It seems to be ignoring the first 0 in TERM MORE 0 0 Whether I use 2 TERM commands or 1 the result is the same. From OPERATOR's PROFILE EXEC: Address Command 'SYNONYM SYN' 'CP TERMINAL MODE VM' 'CP SPOOL CONSOLE * START' 'CP SET RUN ON' 'CP
RACF SETROPTS MINCHANGE
While checking the SETROPTS one of our auditors happened to notice that RACF on z/VM no longer (or never has) supported the password MINCHANGE value. Was it every there on z/VM? Why wouldn't it be supported on z/VM while it is on z/OS? Just curious. Thanks, Leland
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
Sorry, George. My mistake. HLASM isn't imbedded into z/VM. If needed, must be acquired separately. __ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 12/11/2010 18:30 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ty, Clovis, but PK97799 is not an EREP APAR. VM64807 (#3 below) is the Non-SES EREP APAR to which I believe you refer. I was able to apply VM64807 following the instructions in the EREP PGMDIR which were quite good. PK97799 (#1 below), however, is an HLASM SES APAR which I have been told did not go on because I probably do not have HLASM on z/VM. This screen shot from: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=1209dc=DB540q1=z196uid=isg1_2817DEVICE_2817-ZVM shows the details: 12 10/09/22 VM64881 UM33183 1000 VM COUPLING FACILITY HANG AT IP 11 10/09/08 VM64879 UM33171 1000 Z196 PROCESSOR SUPPORT D/T2817 10 10/09/08 VM64774 UM33167 1000 SET/QUERY REORDER COMMAND ( D/T2 9 10/09/07 VM64820 UM33157 1000 NEW FUNCTION IN PERFORMANCE TOOL 8 10/09/02 VM64656 UM32881 1000 NEW FUNCTION - D/T2817 7 10/09/02 VM64793 UM33092 1000 NEW FUNCTION - D/T2817 6. 10/08/31 VM64672 UM90236 1000 NEW FUNCTION - SUPPORT IS 5. 10/08/31 VM64747 UM90237 1000 NEW FUNCTION - HCM SUPPORTS 4 10/08/31 VM64798 UM33151 1000 Z196 PROCESSOR SUPPORT D/T2817 3 10/08/25 VM64807 UV6 1000 NEW FUNCTION - SUPPORT NEW CPU M 2 10/08/25 VM64799 UM33139 1000 IOCP NEW FUNCTION 1. 10/08/19 PK97799 UK59301 1000 HLASM SUPPORT FOR IBM ZENTERPRIS gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/12/2010 02:56 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 George, That is a correction for a NON-SES product: EREP. Not managed by SERVICE/PUT2PROD. See Service Guide how to apply NON-SES PTFs. __ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 08/11/2010 14:24 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU All 14 z196 compatibility APARs listed below went on fine except for PK97799. SES says there is not service for this APAR. How can there be no service? SERVICE USERID: MAINT Date: 11/05/10Time: 23:52:46 ST:VMFSRV2195I SERVICE ALL 2817HLA ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI1200I No SERVICE record was found for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:in table VM SYSSUF ST:VMFSUI1206I Service was not installed for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully for product ST:5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI1200I No SERVICE record was found for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:in table VM SYSSUF ST:VMFSUI1206I Service was not installed for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully for product ST:5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully ST:VMFSUT2760I VMFSUFTB processing started ST:VMFSUT2760I VMFSUFTB processing completed successfully ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully George Henke/NYLIC 11/05/2010 11:27 PM To The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196Link Well the list of z196 (alias 2817) compatibility APARs has grown. Here are all 14 now in alphanumeric order: PK97799 VM64656 VM64672 VM64747 VM64774 VM64793 VM64798 VM64799 VM64807 VM64818 VM64820 VM64879 VM64881 VM64891 btw: The only way I could find the page in the link Clovis supplied was by searching SHOPZ on 2817 the other name for a z196. Les Geer (607-429-3580) g...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/05/2010 04:40 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
Thank you, Clovis, I was wondering why? I do not know that and it did not leave me with a warm and fuzzy feeling. But thank you for letting me know. Now I will be able to sleep at night. gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/12/2010 06:40 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sorry, George. My mistake. HLASM isn't imbedded into z/VM. If needed, must be acquired separately. __ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 12/11/2010 18:30 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ty, Clovis, but PK97799 is not an EREP APAR. VM64807 (#3 below) is the Non-SES EREP APAR to which I believe you refer. I was able to apply VM64807 following the instructions in the EREP PGMDIR which were quite good. PK97799 (#1 below), however, is an HLASM SES APAR which I have been told did not go on because I probably do not have HLASM on z/VM. This screen shot from: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=1209dc=DB540q1=z196uid=isg1_2817DEVICE_2817-ZVM shows the details: 12 10/09/22 VM64881 UM33183 1000 VM COUPLING FACILITY HANG AT IP 11 10/09/08 VM64879 UM33171 1000 Z196 PROCESSOR SUPPORT D/T2817 10 10/09/08 VM64774 UM33167 1000 SET/QUERY REORDER COMMAND ( D/T2 9 10/09/07 VM64820 UM33157 1000 NEW FUNCTION IN PERFORMANCE TOOL 8 10/09/02 VM64656 UM32881 1000 NEW FUNCTION - D/T2817 7 10/09/02 VM64793 UM33092 1000 NEW FUNCTION - D/T2817 6. 10/08/31 VM64672 UM90236 1000 NEW FUNCTION - SUPPORT IS 5. 10/08/31 VM64747 UM90237 1000 NEW FUNCTION - HCM SUPPORTS 4 10/08/31 VM64798 UM33151 1000 Z196 PROCESSOR SUPPORT D/T2817 3 10/08/25 VM64807 UV6 1000 NEW FUNCTION - SUPPORT NEW CPU M 2 10/08/25 VM64799 UM33139 1000 IOCP NEW FUNCTION 1. 10/08/19 PK97799 UK59301 1000 HLASM SUPPORT FOR IBM ZENTERPRIS gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/12/2010 02:56 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 George, That is a correction for a NON-SES product: EREP. Not managed by SERVICE/PUT2PROD. See Service Guide how to apply NON-SES PTFs. __ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 08/11/2010 14:24 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU All 14 z196 compatibility APARs listed below went on fine except for PK97799. SES says there is not service for this APAR. How can there be no service? SERVICE USERID: MAINT Date: 11/05/10Time: 23:52:46 ST:VMFSRV2195I SERVICE ALL 2817HLA ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI1200I No SERVICE record was found for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:in table VM SYSSUF ST:VMFSUI1206I Service was not installed for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully for product ST:5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI1200I No SERVICE record was found for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:in table VM SYSSUF ST:VMFSUI1206I Service was not installed for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully for product ST:5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully ST:VMFSUT2760I VMFSUFTB processing started ST:VMFSUT2760I VMFSUFTB processing completed successfully ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully George Henke/NYLIC 11/05/2010 11:27 PM To The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196Link Well the list of z196 (alias 2817) compatibility APARs has grown. Here are all 14 now in alphanumeric order: PK97799 VM64656
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
Disclaimer: I do not speak for IBM, this is only my understanding of these repeatedly discussed issues on this listserve. The IBM High Level Assembler is a separately orderable, and chargeable Licensed Program Product (meaning: it's not free, you must pay for it). Since it is NOT required, it is not shipped with z/VM. I'm guessing that IBM chooses to not ship it because Linux on System z customers are concerned about installing Linux guests and getting z/VM up and running, not messing with CP modifications. This way you don't pay for what you don't need. If you do not modify CP and some other parts of z/VM (and perhaps some other products such as VM/RACF?) you do not require HLASM to install, maintain, and run z/VM. All parts part of z/VM (e.g. most source code, but not all source code, TEXT decks, MODULE, etc. are shipped when z/VM is distributed. All parts serviced by IBM are shipped as part of the service stream (except for the licensed, and free Restricted Source; orderable through Resource Link - see the Program Directory for z/VM, chapter 2.3 Optional Machine-Readable Material). You don't need that either, unless you suffer from insomnia or are a died-in-the-blue bits and bytes techie. DIRMAINT, Performance Toolkit, VM/RACF, and (NJE parts of) RSCS are chargeable products which ARE shipped with z/VM. As I understand it, they are shipped with z/VM because many new Linux on System z customers will need a directory manager product, a performance monitor product, and perhaps a printing and inter-system communications product. If they are familiar with z/OS (a reasonable), they may already be quite familiar with RACF, and may not have experience evaluating competitive ISV products for those needs. Shipping potentially useful products saves new z/VM customers from having to order them as the need suddenly arises. But the customers are expected to read the doc, finding that use of those products requires a separate action to ENABLE them, and somewhere that they are chargeable - even though they arrived for free with z/VM. For years I've been asking IBM to provide very prominent and clear warnings in the manual describing the command to enable those products, and in the SYSTEM CONFIG file itself where a simple change enables a product one that one should rightly be paying for. Oh well... Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/12/2010 05:46 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Thank you, Clovis, I was wondering why? I do not know that and it did not leave me with a warm and fuzzy feeling. But thank you for letting me know. Now I will be able to sleep at night. gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/12/2010 06:40 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sorry, George. My mistake. HLASM isn't imbedded into z/VM. If needed, must be acquired separately. __ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 12/11/2010 18:30 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ty, Clovis, but PK97799 is not an EREP APAR. VM64807 (#3 below) is the Non-SES EREP APAR to which I believe you refer. I was able to apply VM64807 following the instructions in the EREP PGMDIR which were quite good. PK97799 (#1 below), however, is an HLASM SES APAR which I have been told did not go on because I probably do not have HLASM on z/VM. This screen shot from: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=1209dc=DB540q1=z196uid=isg1_2817DEVICE_2817-ZVM shows the details: 12 10/09/22 VM64881 UM33183 1000 VM COUPLING FACILITY HANG AT IP 11 10/09/08 VM64879 UM33171 1000 Z196 PROCESSOR SUPPORT D/T2817 10 10/09/08 VM64774 UM33167 1000 SET/QUERY REORDER COMMAND ( D/T2 9 10/09/07 VM64820 UM33157 1000 NEW FUNCTION IN PERFORMANCE TOOL 8 10/09/02 VM64656 UM32881 1000 NEW FUNCTION - D/T2817 7 10/09/02 VM64793 UM33092 1000 NEW FUNCTION - D/T2817 6. 10/08/31 VM64672 UM90236 1000 NEW FUNCTION - SUPPORT IS 5. 10/08/31 VM64747 UM90237 1000 NEW FUNCTION - HCM SUPPORTS 4 10/08/31 VM64798 UM33151 1000 Z196 PROCESSOR SUPPORT D/T2817 3 10/08/25 VM64807 UV6 1000 NEW FUNCTION - SUPPORT NEW CPU M 2 10/08/25 VM64799 UM33139 1000 IOCP NEW FUNCTION 1. 10/08/19 PK97799 UK59301 1000 HLASM SUPPORT FOR IBM ZENTERPRIS gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System
Re: RACF SETROPTS MINCHANGE
Nevermind...he found his notes from the last audit and he had documented the differences at that time. Leland On 11/12/10 5:06 PM, Leland Lucius wrote: While checking the SETROPTS one of our auditors happened to notice that RACF on z/VM no longer (or never has) supported the password MINCHANGE value. Was it every there on z/VM? Why wouldn't it be supported on z/VM while it is on z/OS? Just curious. Thanks, Leland
Re: RACF SETROPTS MINCHANGE
It is because VM is a virtual system. You need to ask the auditor if he knows the difference between real and virtual If you see it and it's there, it's real. If you don't see it and it's there it's transparent. If you see it and it's not there, it is virtual. Leland Lucius lluc...@homerow.net Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/12/2010 07:42 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: RACF SETROPTS MINCHANGE Nevermind...he found his notes from the last audit and he had documented the differences at that time. Leland On 11/12/10 5:06 PM, Leland Lucius wrote: While checking the SETROPTS one of our auditors happened to notice that RACF on z/VM no longer (or never has) supported the password MINCHANGE value. Was it every there on z/VM? Why wouldn't it be supported on z/VM while it is on z/OS? Just curious. Thanks, Leland
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
ty, Mike. I believe HLASM is also used for IOCP/IODF processing. Though such processing rarely happens now in the z/VM world, that may change in the future. And from some recent posts on the matter, it appears to already be happening. There seems to be a trend away from dependence on z/OS HCD processing for this functionality. So HLASM may indeed become a real practical reason, in the not too distant future, for having HLASM in z/VM, not for modifying source code per se, but for assembling IOCP source into production IODFs which can then be loaded statically and/or dynamically into the IOCDS. It kinda concerns me now where I am, even though we have no immediate plans to do any IOCP/IODF processing in z/VM, that we could not do so even if we wanted to, because we do not have HLASM. It is somewhat limiting. Don't fence me in . . . Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/12/2010 07:30 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Disclaimer: I do not speak for IBM, this is only my understanding of these repeatedly discussed issues on this listserve. The IBM High Level Assembler is a separately orderable, and chargeable Licensed Program Product (meaning: it's not free, you must pay for it). Since it is NOT required, it is not shipped with z/VM. I'm guessing that IBM chooses to not ship it because Linux on System z customers are concerned about installing Linux guests and getting z/VM up and running, not messing with CP modifications. This way you don't pay for what you don't need. If you do not modify CP and some other parts of z/VM (and perhaps some other products such as VM/RACF?) you do not require HLASM to install, maintain, and run z/VM. All parts part of z/VM (e.g. most source code, but not all source code, TEXT decks, MODULE, etc. are shipped when z/VM is distributed. All parts serviced by IBM are shipped as part of the service stream (except for the licensed, and free Restricted Source; orderable through Resource Link - see the Program Directory for z/VM, chapter 2.3 Optional Machine-Readable Material). You don't need that either, unless you suffer from insomnia or are a died-in-the-blue bits and bytes techie. DIRMAINT, Performance Toolkit, VM/RACF, and (NJE parts of) RSCS are chargeable products which ARE shipped with z/VM. As I understand it, they are shipped with z/VM because many new Linux on System z customers will need a directory manager product, a performance monitor product, and perhaps a printing and inter-system communications product. If they are familiar with z/OS (a reasonable), they may already be quite familiar with RACF, and may not have experience evaluating competitive ISV products for those needs. Shipping potentially useful products saves new z/VM customers from having to order them as the need suddenly arises. But the customers are expected to read the doc, finding that use of those products requires a separate action to ENABLE them, and somewhere that they are chargeable - even though they arrived for free with z/VM. For years I've been asking IBM to provide very prominent and clear warnings in the manual describing the command to enable those products, and in the SYSTEM CONFIG file itself where a simple change enables a product one that one should rightly be paying for. Oh well... Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/12/2010 05:46 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Thank you, Clovis, I was wondering why? I do not know that and it did not leave me with a warm and fuzzy feeling. But thank you for letting me know. Now I will be able to sleep at night. gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/12/2010 06:40 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sorry, George. My mistake. HLASM isn't imbedded into z/VM. If needed, must be acquired separately. __ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 12/11/2010 18:30 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ty, Clovis, but PK97799 is not an EREP APAR. VM64807 (#3 below) is the Non-SES EREP APAR to which I believe you refer. I was able to apply VM64807 following the instructions in the EREP PGMDIR which were quite good. PK97799 (#1 below),
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
On 11/12/2010 at 08:20 PM, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: And there's always the Dignus Systems/ASM product. See-- http://www.dignus.com/dasm/ That product is definitely Ready for Prime Time. Big-time companies use it. Including, up until a year or two ago, IBM's z/VM developers. Go figure. Mark Post
