Re: Temp SFS environment

2011-03-16 Thread Alain Benveniste
Scott

My VM is used as hypervisor for DR needs and defined with minimal dasd. I was 
looking for a way to transfer big files without adding perm or temp dasd space 
and avoid to increase time of backup... And we are waiting for a new dasd array 
coming in end of may. All the rest of free space is used to migrate 3380 to 
3390.

Alain

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Le 16 mars 2011 à 23:12, "Wandschneider, Scott" 
 a écrit :

> My curious mind wants me to ask. . . Why would you want a temporary SFS
> Directory in memory?
> 
> Thank you,
> Scott
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Alain Benveniste
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:01 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Temp SFS environment
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I tried to create a Temp SFS environment in using FB-512 VDSK.
> Part of my directory looks like this:
> MDISK 0191 3390 11 1 VM0HVF MR
> MDISK 0301 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
> MDISK 0302 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
> MDISK 0303 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
> MDISK 0304 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
> MDISK 0305 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
> 
> The fileserv generate command works perfectly but when I do a fileserv
> st=
> art
> I get: 
> DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing begun at 22:55:02 on 16 Mar 2011
> DMSWFV1121I SFS DMSPARMS A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = CONTROL
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = CONTROL
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = MDK1
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = MDK1
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = MDK2
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = MDK2
> DMS4PG3404W File pool limit of 2 minidisks has been reached
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = LOG1
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = LOG1
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = LOG2
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = LOG2
> DMS5FD3032I File pool server has terminated
> DMSWFV1120I File SFS POOLDEF A1 created or replaced
> DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing ended at 22:55:52 on 16 Mar 2011
> DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing begun at 22:55:52 on 16 Mar 2011
> DMSWFV1121I SFS DMSPARMS A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
> DMSWFV1121I SFS POOLDEF A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
> DMS5FE3040E File pool server system error occurred - DMS4FK 02
> 
> DMS3040E  File pool server system error occurred - modulename nn
> 
> Explanation: An internal error occurred within the file pool server. A
> du=
> mp is
> taken according to the dump option chosen in the server startup
> parameter=
> s.
> This is a system error.
> 
> The modulename is the name of the module that detected the error.
> 
> The nn is the error detection point within the module.
> 
> The modulename nn is intended only for service personnel.
> 
> 
> What modulename 02 means ?
> 
> Fileserv works fine when the MDK are 'normal' mdisk but not when
> they=
> 
> are defined as temp...
> 
> Is it just possible to do that ?
> 
> Alain 
> 
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Re: Temp SFS environment

2011-03-16 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
I am not sure about this, but I think it might be that the mdisks
get detached and re-linked, which would kill your SFS server
if they were TDISK.

See what response you get to:
#cp q v 301-305
immediately after the failure.

The reason I think I remember this is that years ago I once
tried to define the mdisks as slightly different addresses
than the ones in the CP directory (#CP DEF B301 301),
and ran into problems. IIRC the server wanted to be able
to LINK to the addresses I had given it.

Shimon



On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Alain Benveniste wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I tried to create a Temp SFS environment in using FB-512 VDSK.
> Part of my directory looks like this:
> MDISK 0191 3390 11 1 VM0HVF MR
> MDISK 0301 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
> MDISK 0302 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
> MDISK 0303 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
> MDISK 0304 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
> MDISK 0305 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
>
> The fileserv generate command works perfectly but when I do a fileserv st
> art
> I get:
> DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing begun at 22:55:02 on 16 Mar 2011
> DMSWFV1121I SFS DMSPARMS A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = CONTROL
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = CONTROL
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = MDK1
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = MDK1
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = MDK2
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = MDK2
> DMS4PG3404W File pool limit of 2 minidisks has been reached
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = LOG1
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = LOG1
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = LOG2
> DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = LOG2
> DMS5FD3032I File pool server has terminated
> DMSWFV1120I File SFS POOLDEF A1 created or replaced
> DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing ended at 22:55:52 on 16 Mar 2011
> DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing begun at 22:55:52 on 16 Mar 2011
> DMSWFV1121I SFS DMSPARMS A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
> DMSWFV1121I SFS POOLDEF A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
> DMS5FE3040E File pool server system error occurred - DMS4FK 02
>
> DMS3040E  File pool server system error occurred - modulename nn
>
> Explanation: An internal error occurred within the file pool server. A du
> mp is
> taken according to the dump option chosen in the server startup parameter
> s.
> This is a system error.
>
> The modulename is the name of the module that detected the error.
>
> The nn is the error detection point within the module.
>
> The modulename nn is intended only for service personnel.
>
>
> What modulename 02 means ?
>
> Fileserv works fine when the MDK are 'normal' mdisk but not when they
>
> are defined as temp...
>
> Is it just possible to do that ?
>
> Alain
>


Re: Temp SFS environment

2011-03-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/16/2011 at 06:01 EDT, Alain Benveniste 
 wrote:

> DMS5FE3040E File pool server system error occurred - DMS4FK 02

That error code indicates a failure of the MAPMDISK IDENTIFY function (see 
CP Programming Services), and the likely candidate error is "V-DISK not 
supported".

I think you should be able to use T-disk, however.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
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Re: Temp SFS environment

2011-03-16 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
My curious mind wants me to ask. . . Why would you want a temporary SFS
Directory in memory?

Thank you,
Scott


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Alain Benveniste
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:01 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Temp SFS environment

Hi,

I tried to create a Temp SFS environment in using FB-512 VDSK.
Part of my directory looks like this:
MDISK 0191 3390 11 1 VM0HVF MR
MDISK 0301 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
MDISK 0302 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
MDISK 0303 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
MDISK 0304 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
MDISK 0305 FB-512 V-DISK 64000

The fileserv generate command works perfectly but when I do a fileserv
st=
art
I get: 
DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing begun at 22:55:02 on 16 Mar 2011
DMSWFV1121I SFS DMSPARMS A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = CONTROL
DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = CONTROL
DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = MDK1
DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = MDK1
DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = MDK2
DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = MDK2
DMS4PG3404W File pool limit of 2 minidisks has been reached
DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = LOG1
DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = LOG1
DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = LOG2
DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = LOG2
DMS5FD3032I File pool server has terminated
DMSWFV1120I File SFS POOLDEF A1 created or replaced
DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing ended at 22:55:52 on 16 Mar 2011
DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing begun at 22:55:52 on 16 Mar 2011
DMSWFV1121I SFS DMSPARMS A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
DMSWFV1121I SFS POOLDEF A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
DMS5FE3040E File pool server system error occurred - DMS4FK 02

DMS3040E  File pool server system error occurred - modulename nn

Explanation: An internal error occurred within the file pool server. A
du=
mp is
taken according to the dump option chosen in the server startup
parameter=
s.
This is a system error.

The modulename is the name of the module that detected the error.

The nn is the error detection point within the module.

The modulename nn is intended only for service personnel.


What modulename 02 means ?

Fileserv works fine when the MDK are 'normal' mdisk but not when
they=

are defined as temp...

Is it just possible to do that ?

Alain 

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Temp SFS environment

2011-03-16 Thread Alain Benveniste
Hi,

I tried to create a Temp SFS environment in using FB-512 VDSK.
Part of my directory looks like this:
MDISK 0191 3390 11 1 VM0HVF MR
MDISK 0301 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
MDISK 0302 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
MDISK 0303 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
MDISK 0304 FB-512 V-DISK 64000
MDISK 0305 FB-512 V-DISK 64000

The fileserv generate command works perfectly but when I do a fileserv st
art
I get: 
DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing begun at 22:55:02 on 16 Mar 2011
DMSWFV1121I SFS DMSPARMS A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = CONTROL
DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = CONTROL
DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = MDK1
DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = MDK1
DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = MDK2
DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = MDK2
DMS4PG3404W File pool limit of 2 minidisks has been reached
DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = LOG1
DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = LOG1
DMS4PD3400I Initializing begins for DDNAME = LOG2
DMS4PD3400I Initializing ends for DDNAME = LOG2
DMS5FD3032I File pool server has terminated
DMSWFV1120I File SFS POOLDEF A1 created or replaced
DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing ended at 22:55:52 on 16 Mar 2011
DMSWFV1117I FILESERV processing begun at 22:55:52 on 16 Mar 2011
DMSWFV1121I SFS DMSPARMS A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
DMSWFV1121I SFS POOLDEF A1 will be used for FILESERV processing
DMS5FE3040E File pool server system error occurred - DMS4FK 02

DMS3040E  File pool server system error occurred - modulename nn

Explanation: An internal error occurred within the file pool server. A du
mp is
taken according to the dump option chosen in the server startup parameter
s.
This is a system error.

The modulename is the name of the module that detected the error.

The nn is the error detection point within the module.

The modulename nn is intended only for service personnel.


What modulename 02 means ?

Fileserv works fine when the MDK are 'normal' mdisk but not when they

are defined as temp...

Is it just possible to do that ?

Alain


Re: EXEC language parser

2011-03-16 Thread Les Koehler
Have you looked in the VM Download Library? Any good Rexx XREF program should 
yield the basic information that you would need to accumulate.


Les

Mehta, Nilay wrote:

Hi,

 


I am trying to create inventory list to show all called procedures from an EXEC 
program.

 


Ideally I require a language parser which parses the syntax but doesn't execute 
the code; instead just identifies various aspects of the program (like called 
procedures, file definitions etc)

 


REXX has option that causes commands to be traced but not processed.

 


TRACE !C

 


However it doesn't work if calls are made to external procedures (like PLI or 
FORTRAN modules etc)

 


Is there a utility/command which can help me achieve the above?

 


My system is z/VM 5.2

 


Thanks.

 


Example:

 


Pseudo code:

 


ABC EXEC

/* */

CALL 'PRDDATE' 'MMDDYY'

ERASE IUDINIT LOG  

'EXEC XYZPGM' 

WHEN  SELECTION = 2  

THEN  DO 

  CMPSCHEM   


END

'FILEDEF IPPFILE DISK IPPFILE  DAT  A(LRECL 110RECFM F'

'FILEDEF ITTFILE DISK ITTFILE  DAT  A(LRECL 110RECFM F'

'QCHG' 

 IF RC <> 0 THEN DO;  

SIGNAL ERROR;   

 END


RETURN;

 


The utility should return all called programs:

1.PRDDATE & XYZPGM (which are EXEC and may be written in EXEC, EXEC2 or REXX 
language)

2.CMPSCHEM (which is written in assembly language - CMPSCHEM ASSEMBLE)

3.QCHG (which is PL1 program - QCHG PLI)

 

 

 

 

 




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Re: EXEC language parser

2011-03-16 Thread Kris Buelens
The REXX compiler may be some help.

2011/3/16 Mehta, Nilay 

>  Hi,
>
>
>
> I am trying to create inventory list to show all called procedures from an
> EXEC program.
>
>
>
> Ideally I require a language parser which parses the syntax but doesn’t
> execute the code; instead just identifies various aspects of the program
> (like called procedures, file definitions etc)
>
>
>
> REXX has option that causes commands to be traced but not processed.
>
>
>
> TRACE !C
>
>
>
> However it doesn’t work if calls are made to external procedures (like PLI
> or FORTRAN modules etc)
>
>
>
> Is there a utility/command which can help me achieve the above?
>
>
>
> My system is z/VM 5.2
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Example:
>
>
>
> Pseudo code:
>
>
>
> ABC EXEC
>
> /* */
>
> CALL 'PRDDATE' 'MMDDYY'
>
> ERASE IUDINIT LOG
>
> 'EXEC XYZPGM'
>
> WHEN  SELECTION = 2
>
> THEN  DO
>
>   CMPSCHEM
>
> END
>
> 'FILEDEF IPPFILE DISK IPPFILE  DAT  A(LRECL 110RECFM F'
>
> 'FILEDEF ITTFILE DISK ITTFILE  DAT  A(LRECL 110RECFM F'
>
> 'QCHG'
>
>  IF RC <> 0 THEN DO;
>
>
> SIGNAL ERROR;
>
>
>  END
>
> RETURN;
>
>
>
> The utility should return all called programs:
>
> 1.PRDDATE & XYZPGM (which are EXEC and may be written in EXEC, EXEC2 or
> REXX language)
>
> 2.CMPSCHEM (which is written in assembly language – CMPSCHEM ASSEMBLE)
>
> 3.QCHG (which is PL1 program – QCHG PLI)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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Re: Question to CMS plumbers (PIPE)

2011-03-16 Thread Les Koehler
I've heard of some shops doing that on MVS, but it requires privilege and 
management approval.


Les

Florian Bilek wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. I will forward the question to my IBM
representative. Let's see what that Delivery offering means. 


I read about this in the Author's Guide. I think even the Batch pipes are

not going to be further improved, There should be some sort of "unsupport
ed"
way as it is done in CMS where you can replace the official version by th
e
current ones of MARIST. 

Thank's for the hints. 


Kind regards,
Florian 



EXEC language parser

2011-03-16 Thread Mehta, Nilay
Hi,

 

I am trying to create inventory list to show all called procedures from an EXEC 
program.

 

Ideally I require a language parser which parses the syntax but doesn't execute 
the code; instead just identifies various aspects of the program (like called 
procedures, file definitions etc)

 

REXX has option that causes commands to be traced but not processed.

 

TRACE !C

 

However it doesn't work if calls are made to external procedures (like PLI or 
FORTRAN modules etc)

 

Is there a utility/command which can help me achieve the above?

 

My system is z/VM 5.2

 

Thanks.

 

Example:

 

Pseudo code:

 

ABC EXEC

/* */

CALL 'PRDDATE' 'MMDDYY'

ERASE IUDINIT LOG  

'EXEC XYZPGM' 

WHEN  SELECTION = 2  

THEN  DO 

  CMPSCHEM   

END

'FILEDEF IPPFILE DISK IPPFILE  DAT  A(LRECL 110RECFM F'

'FILEDEF ITTFILE DISK ITTFILE  DAT  A(LRECL 110RECFM F'

'QCHG' 

 IF RC <> 0 THEN DO;  

SIGNAL ERROR;   

 END

RETURN;

 

The utility should return all called programs:

1.PRDDATE & XYZPGM (which are EXEC and may be written in EXEC, EXEC2 or REXX 
language)

2.CMPSCHEM (which is written in assembly language - CMPSCHEM ASSEMBLE)

3.QCHG (which is PL1 program - QCHG PLI)

 

 

 

 

 



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Re: RSU, PSP - which do I choose?

2011-03-16 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
At some point, you may want to consider creating a 2nd level VM just for 
maintenance like this.

Once your VM system is deployed, you never want to apply maintenance to it 
directly, not even a PTF, without doing a "smoke test" first at level 2.





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03/10/2011 05:43 PM
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Re: RSU, PSP - which do I choose?







Order PTF UV97540 and you will got lastest RSU for z/VM 5.4. (1008)
 
 
This is good advice and gets you most of the way. Since RSUs are 
collections of recommended service made at a specific point in time, make 
sure you also order the PSP bucket for that RSU to catch anything after 
the RSU date that wasn’t included on the RSU. 
 
Background: What you’re doing is three things: installing the base code, 
using the RSU to jump forward in time and apply all the service from the 
base up to the RSU date in one operation, and then layer any fixes that 
have been made after the RSU was closed. 
You’ve gotten the base code installed, and (if you want) you can use the 
RSU that you have to practice installing the RSU (when you get the new 
stacked RSU and PSP tapes, the SERVICE tool will figure out what you have 
already applied and just add the new stuff. 
 
Mother’s Rules of Thumb: 
 
1)  Never mix IBM stuff and your stuff. 
2)  Always take a backup of your entire MAINT id BEFORE you THINK 
about applying service
3)  Cupcakes get you faster responses to your service problems. 8-)
 
I’d strongly encourage you to just do a SERVICE ALL with the RSU and let 
the automated stuff process the service. If you aren’t using CMS for 
anything except maintaining the system, it does a pretty good job, and 
anything it can’t handle, you’re going to need to call IBM for help 
anyway.  The VM service tools are heap big magic even for us oldtimers. 
 
 



Re: Question to CMS plumbers (PIPE)

2011-03-16 Thread Florian Bilek
Thanks for the feedback. I will forward the question to my IBM
representative. Let's see what that Delivery offering means. 

I read about this in the Author's Guide. I think even the Batch pipes are

not going to be further improved, There should be some sort of "unsupport
ed"
way as it is done in CMS where you can replace the official version by th
e
current ones of MARIST. 

Thank's for the hints. 

Kind regards,
Florian


Re: Adding CP OWNED SLOTS

2011-03-16 Thread Kris Buelens
No, adding empty slots requires an IPL of z/VM

It has been suggested to define all 255 slots directly, it doesn't cost
much.  And, the good news is that you don't even need to code the 255
statements in SYSTEM CONFIG as RESERVED, just code those to which a pack is
associated and one with number 255.  CP will fill in the holes
automatically.

2011/3/16 Shumate, Scott 

>  I'm new to the VM arena.  I have a question about CP_ONWED slots.  Is
> there a way to dynamically add CP_OWNED slots?  I had 20 defined in
> sysconfig and just finished using them up with PAGE and other CP disk.  I
> added another 20 reserved slots in the SYSCONFIG.  I was wondering if I
> could dynamically add the additional 20 reserve slots or does it require an
> IPL?
>
>  Regards,
>
> Scott Shumate
> Software Systems Programmer II
> Branch Bank & Trust
> Assistant Vice President
> Mainframe Support
> Mail Code: 100-99-09-10
> Work:  (252) 246-2306
> Cell:(252) 373-9605
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> /(  )\
> ^^-^^
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> -
>



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Adding CP OWNED SLOTS

2011-03-16 Thread Shumate, Scott
I'm new to the VM arena.  I have a question about CP_ONWED slots.  Is
there a way to dynamically add CP_OWNED slots?  I had 20 defined in
sysconfig and just finished using them up with PAGE and other CP disk.
I added another 20 reserved slots in the SYSCONFIG.  I was wondering if
I could dynamically add the additional 20 reserve slots or does it
require an IPL? 

 Regards, 

Scott Shumate 
Software Systems Programmer II 
Branch Bank & Trust 
Assistant Vice President 
Mainframe Support 
Mail Code: 100-99-09-10 
Work:  (252) 246-2306 
Cell:(252) 373-9605 
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Re: Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?

2011-03-16 Thread Mark Wheeler

You CAN put TSAF in between SFS and AVS+VTAM, but it's not necessary.
 
Mark Wheeler
UnitedHealth Group

 



Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:13:28 -0400
From: rhamil...@cas.org
Subject: Re: Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU






Yep; I used TSAF over AVS+VTAM and connected users+SFSs; that should work 
regardless of the size of your country.
 
R;
 
 
Rob Hamilton
Chemical Abstracts Service
  

Re: Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Troth
Les --

About the authentication nightmare part, the same criticism is
frequently nailed on NFS in Unix/Linux land.  The problem there is the
same:  You have placed a certain amount of admin trust in the file
sharing peer systems.  If you don't trust the sysadmin of an NFS
client, don't export the content to his machines.  (There are various
ways people have tried to close the gap in NFS, wth varying results
and varied satisfaction, all very confusing.)  Similarly, if you don't
trust the sysadmin of the other VM system(s), don't play SFS with
them.

Rob mentions username mapping with IPGATE.  They do the same thing in
NFS, but not quite as open-ended.  IPGATE is kinda cool.

-- R;   <><
Rick Troth
Velocity Software
http://www.velocitysoftware.com/





On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:25, Les Koehler  wrote:
> A friend and I were (dis)cussing SFS and he thinks it can be networked
> cross-country. Possible? I would guess that it would be an authentication
> nightmare at the user level. Thoughts?
>
> Les
>


Re: Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?

2011-03-16 Thread Hamilton, Robert
Yep; I used TSAF over AVS+VTAM and connected users+SFSs; that should
work regardless of the size of your country.

 

R;

 

 

Rob Hamilton

Chemical Abstracts Service

 



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Subject: Re: Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?

 

In the unlikely situation where you run VTAM on your z/VM systems, you
can config your AVS gateways and connect the two SFS's via LU6.2.

Mark Wheeler
UnitedHealth Group

 
> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:38:33 +0100
> From: rvdh...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Les Koehler 
wrote:
> > A friend and I were (dis)cussing SFS and he thinks it can be
networked
> > cross-country. Possible? I would guess that it would be an
authentication
> > nightmare at the user level. Thoughts?
> 
> If you share via ISFC that means both sides must be in the same
> administrative domain. But given the length of the FICON connection,
> it will only work for small countries ;-)
> IPGATE run over TCP/IP connections and does long distance. Latency can
> make it less fun for regular use, but IMHO you really should not have
> critical data on a remote system. You define user access and mapping
> in the IPGATE configuration files. Provided there is some
> understanding between userid management on both sides, you could even
> use dummy userids as the target of the mapping (eg map MAINT at SYSA
> to user MAINT-A at SYSB).
> 
> Rob


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Re: Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?

2011-03-16 Thread Mark Wheeler

In the unlikely situation where you run VTAM on your z/VM systems, you can 
config your AVS gateways and connect the two SFS's via LU6.2.

Mark Wheeler
UnitedHealth Group

 
> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:38:33 +0100
> From: rvdh...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Les Koehler  wrote:
> > A friend and I were (dis)cussing SFS and he thinks it can be networked
> > cross-country. Possible? I would guess that it would be an authentication
> > nightmare at the user level. Thoughts?
> 
> If you share via ISFC that means both sides must be in the same
> administrative domain. But given the length of the FICON connection,
> it will only work for small countries ;-)
> IPGATE run over TCP/IP connections and does long distance. Latency can
> make it less fun for regular use, but IMHO you really should not have
> critical data on a remote system. You define user access and mapping
> in the IPGATE configuration files. Provided there is some
> understanding between userid management on both sides, you could even
> use dummy userids as the target of the mapping (eg map MAINT at SYSA
> to user MAINT-A at SYSB).
> 
> Rob
  

Re: Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?

2011-03-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Les Koehler  wrote:
> A friend and I were (dis)cussing SFS and he thinks it can be networked
> cross-country. Possible? I would guess that it would be an authentication
> nightmare at the user level. Thoughts?

If you share via ISFC that means both sides must be in the same
administrative domain. But given the length of the FICON connection,
it will only work for small countries ;-)
IPGATE run over TCP/IP connections and does long distance. Latency can
make it less fun for regular use, but IMHO you really should not have
critical data on a remote system. You define user access and mapping
in the IPGATE configuration files. Provided there is some
understanding between userid management on both sides, you could even
use dummy userids as the target of the mapping (eg map MAINT at SYSA
to user MAINT-A at SYSB).

Rob


Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?

2011-03-16 Thread Les Koehler
A friend and I were (dis)cussing SFS and he thinks it can be networked 
cross-country. Possible? I would guess that it would be an authentication 
nightmare at the user level. Thoughts?


Les


Re: Tape drives : MVS & VM

2011-03-16 Thread Alain Benveniste
We just reactivate the same iodef in all our mvs lpar. We suppose there was a 
out of sync for one of them plus an edt problem. Now all is working fine. Just 
have to wait for the next IPLs to validate if we are in a stable state.

Alain

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 15 mars 2011 à 23:22, George Henke/NYLIC  a 
écrit :

> In HCD, IODF, IOCDS, z/OS, z/VM, or whatever, if a CHPID is SHARED, as the 
> poster indicates it is, then all the devices,by default, on that CHPID are 
> SHARED by any LPAR that is listed on either the ACCESS LIST  or the CANDIDATE 
>  LIST for that CHPID which is what  SHARED as opposed to DEDICATED or 
> RECONFIGURABLE means. 
> 
> There is also an EXPLICIT DEVICE CANDIDATE LIST, so that when a particular 
> device ends up being SHARED by default because it happens to be on a SHARED 
> CHPID, as is the case here, it is possible to exclude that device from being 
> shared by a particular LPAR through the EXPLICIT DEVICE CANDIDATE LIST. 
> 
> From HCD Planning: 
> 
> This information includes whether you want to control logical partition 
> access to devices when logical partitions get access through a shared channel 
> path. If you do want to limit logical partition access, you specify that you 
> want an explicit device candidate list when asked by HCD. See "Defining 
> logical partition access to a channel path" in topic 2.4.2.   
> 
> It looks like this is what this poster may need. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Alan Altmark  
> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> 03/15/2011 11:48 AM
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> Please respond to
> The IBM z/VM Operating System 
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> To
> IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
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> Subject
> Re: Tape drives : MVS & VM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, 03/14/2011 at 01:41 EDT, Mark Pace  
> wrote:
> > Basically all you did was tell the OSs that the devices were not being 
> shared. 
> >  If you did not specifically limit the access to a particular LPAR then 
> all the 
> > LPARs can see because the CHPID is shared.
> 
> I'm not an MVS expert, but if the MVS IODF was generated by HCD, and the 
> IODF says "no", then the devices are probably not shared in the IOCDS. 
> IOCDS and IODF out of sync?  Perish the thought
> 
> MVS also has to know that the tapes are shared so that he manages ASSIGN 
> operations correctly, doesn't he?  The tape management software must be 
> willing to unassign the drives when tapes are unmounted.
> 
> Alan Altmark
> 
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Re: Question to CMS plumbers (PIPE)

2011-03-16 Thread Mike Walter
There is another listserver devoted to specifically to CMS-Pipelines:   
cms-pipeli...@vm.marist.edu
you can subscribe to that list by sending to: 
lists...@vm.marist.edu
the test of message should contain:
   SUBSCRIBE CMS-PIPELINES firstname lastname

But this list is a pretty good place to start.

As Kris said, the CMS/TSO Pipelines offering was from IBM Denmark.  You 
may want to subscribe to and ask the same question on the 
cms-pipeli...@vm.marist.edu forum, since the Piper watches that list very 
closely.

If you are trying to process messages from the z/OS system, then the IBM 
product NETVIEW has some level of Pipelines within it.  Netview's pipes 
will look familiar to CMS pipers, but there are significant differences, 
and NETVIEW-specific stages.  It would be enlightening to know more about 
the roots of in Netview, and how back-leveled it is from those roots.

It would also be enlightening to understand why there is no direct Pipe 
command in TSO - resulting such a tremendous productivity loss for TSO 
users!

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.



"Florian Bilek"  

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Dear all, 

Maybe it is the wrong forum but I do have a z/OS related question: 

In the documentation of the CMS pipelines there is alwas a reference that 
it supports TSO z/OS as well. 
However I am not able to find a clear indication if this is still the case 
or it is mentioned only for historical reasons. 
I would like to ask if there exists a HOWTO to get pipleines working under 
TSO/REXX.  z/OS 1.11
Does anybody has more concrete information about this? 

Thank you very much in advance. 

-- 
Best regards

Florian




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Re: Question to CMS plumbers (PIPE)

2011-03-16 Thread Kris Buelens
There used to be an offering of IBM Denmark to deliver Pipelines to a z/OS
customer.  And, there was an era where (some level of) Pipelines was
included in the z/OS product "Batch Pipe Works".
But, I don't know about the current status.

2011/3/16 Florian Bilek 

> Dear all,
>
> Maybe it is the wrong forum but I do have a z/OS related question:
>
> In the documentation of the CMS pipelines there is alwas a reference that
> it supports TSO z/OS as well.
> However I am not able to find a clear indication if this is still the case
> or it is mentioned only for historical reasons.
> I would like to ask if there exists a HOWTO to get pipleines working under
> TSO/REXX.  z/OS 1.11
> Does anybody has more concrete information about this?
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Florian
>



-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Question to CMS plumbers (PIPE)

2011-03-16 Thread Florian Bilek
Dear all,

Maybe it is the wrong forum but I do have a z/OS related question:

In the documentation of the CMS pipelines there is alwas a reference that it
supports TSO z/OS as well.
However I am not able to find a clear indication if this is still the case
or it is mentioned only for historical reasons.
I would like to ask if there exists a HOWTO to get pipleines working under
TSO/REXX.  z/OS 1.11
Does anybody has more concrete information about this?

Thank you very much in advance.

-- 
Best regards

Florian


Re: "Social Security Confronts IT Obsolescence"

2011-03-16 Thread David L. Craig
'Twas very helpful of the article to bring these point out, as well as
the actual percentages of watts and BTUs related to mainframe gear and
non-mainframe gear including trend analysis.  Say, you don't suppose
those data centers were were designed to house all that Internetwork
stuff, do you?  Thank God the article made all these facts obvious for
any possible readers not so familiar with IT at that scale.

Hmmm...  I wonder if any corporate jets are buried in the "mainframe"
budget...  Naw, this operation could not likely get away with
something like that for very long at all.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Rob van der Heij  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:07 AM, David Boyes  wrote:
>
>>  Its interesting that the z10s that actually hold the SSA data are the least 
>> demanding on that front of any of the systems in that facility.
>
> .. even when data center planners charge double for it because of the
> dual power feeds... ;-)
>


Re: moving members to a z/OS system

2011-03-16 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
When we had to do this I wrote my own "nifty" exec TMVS (To-MVS)
which uses the VMFTP package. You are welcome to share it.
I haven't looked at it in a long time, but IIRC it supports PDS and
sequential files.
(I don't know if PDS/E would require any changes).

Shimon


On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Edward M Martin wrote:

> Hello Mark,
>
>
>
> We do not have a RSCS/JES connection yet ( I may attempt to create one) and
> I can FTP, but I was wondering if there was niffy way to send files to a
> z/OS system
>
> That would build a PDS/E for them.
>
>
>
> Ed Martin
>
> Aultman Health Foundation
>
> 330-363-5050
>
> Ext 35050
>
>
>
> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
> Behalf Of *Mark Pace
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:37 AM
> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: moving members to a z/OS system
>
>
>
> If you have an RSCS/JES connection you can use SENDFILE.
>
> If a TCPIP connection you could do FTP.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Edward M Martin 
> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I have some 30-40 members that need to be migrated to a z/OS system – far,
> far, away.
>
> And I am dealing with z/OS people (I am not impressed).
>
>
>
> What is the easiest way to send these files to them that will make it very
> easy for them to load into a PDS?
>
>
>
> Ed Martin
>
> Aultman Health Foundation
>
> 330-363-5050
>
> Ext 35050
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark D Pace
>
> Senior Systems Engineer
>
> Mainline Information Systems
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: "Social Security Confronts IT Obsolescence"

2011-03-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:07 AM, David Boyes  wrote:

>  Its interesting that the z10s that actually hold the SSA data are the least 
> demanding on that front of any of the systems in that facility.

.. even when data center planners charge double for it because of the
dual power feeds... ;-)