pERFKIT bATCH rEPORTS
I'm running a Performance Toolkit batch report
and it seems to be using a single quote (')
instead of a comma (,) in numbers greater than
999. IE:
Total real storage 2'048MB
Does anyone know how to change this to use a
comma instead of a quote mark?
Thanks,
Billy
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z/VM and Linux
Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. Regards, Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system.
Re: z/VM and Linux
z/VM is charged for all GP and IFL's on the box only if it is also running on the GP's and not just on the IFL's. Larry Davis -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Hughes, Jim Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM and Linux Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. Regards, Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system.
Re: z/VM and Linux
Right, but unless I'm mistaken, z/VM workload is GP only. The Linux workload is IFL only (or should be). No charge for IFL workload but there would be a minimal charge for the underlying z/VM processing (storage, memory, shared resources...)? Michael J. Forte z/OS Storage ID (and on assignment with STG Lab Services and Training) Software Engineer, System z Information Solutions 58HA IBM Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 3039 E Cornwallis Road Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-2195 USA mjfo...@us.ibm.com 1+720-397-5945 1+845-702-7962 1+919-381-4739 There are risks and costs to a program of action. But they are far less than the long-term risks and costs of comfortable inaction. - John F. Kennedy From: Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability) larry.dav...@hp.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/01/2011 03:35 PM Subject:Re: z/VM and Linux Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM is charged for all GP and IFL's on the box only if it is also running on the GP's and not just on the IFL's. Larry Davis -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Hughes, Jim Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM and Linux Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. Regards, Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system. image/gifimage/gifimage/gifimage/gifimage/gifimage/gifimage/gif
Re: z/VM and Linux
On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 03:32 EDT, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov wrote: Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. The charge for z/VM does not change based on the guests that are running, but on the CPUs available to z/VM. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains GPs, count all GPs on the CEC. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains IFLs, count all IFLs on the CEC. - Repeat for each CEC that has z/VM on it. (The CECs must have the same Enterprise ID.) - Add all the CPU numbers together. The price of z/VM is based on that total. Note that as the number of CPUs goes up, the average z/VM license cost per CPU goes down. (At your 4th CPU you start to see the price go down.) Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM and Linux
Interesting. But that seems at odds with the deal we worked out with our local IBM marketeers for two z196 EC's, each with 16 IFLs and 32TB of storage; and two z/VM 6.1 licenses, and the all many IBM and ISV products we needed - with IBM owing *us* money instead of having to pay them anything! Each month we receive a large check by certified mail, and as we add IFLs and software the amount of the check increases. The devil is in the details - so pay close attention to the date of this note. Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 04/01/2011 02:55 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 03:32 EDT, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov wrote: Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. The charge for z/VM does not change based on the guests that are running, but on the CPUs available to z/VM. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains GPs, count all GPs on the CEC. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains IFLs, count all IFLs on the CEC. - Repeat for each CEC that has z/VM on it. (The CECs must have the same Enterprise ID.) - Add all the CPU numbers together. The price of z/VM is based on that total. Note that as the number of CPUs goes up, the average z/VM license cost per CPU goes down. (At your 4th CPU you start to see the price go down.) Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: z/VM and Linux
On 4/1/2011 at 04:04 PM, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov wrote: So to be clear, I have a single CEC with two GP's and one IFL. I'm told our z/VM license is for two CPU's. We are not using the IFL now. If we were to begin using the IFL, our CPU count increases to three and our z/VM licensing cost would increase by one cpu. Is this correct? If you're going to be running z/VM on that IFL, and keep running in on the two GPs, then yes you are correct. Mark Post
Re: z/VM and Linux
Alan, Wouldn't you rather say: snip - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to use GPs, count all GPs on the CEC - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to use IFLs, count all IFLs on the CEC snip Mark Wheeler UnitedHealth Group -- Excellence. Always. If Not Excellence, What? If Not Excellence Now, When? Tom Peters, author of The Little BIG Things Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:55:12 -0400 From: alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 03:32 EDT, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov wrote: Is there an additional z/VM charge when running Linux in an IFL? We already have z/VM 5.4 on a z/10. Just curious. Been out of the loop on licensing charges for a while. The charge for z/VM does not change based on the guests that are running, but on the CPUs available to z/VM. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains GPs, count all GPs on the CEC. - If you have a z/VM LPAR on a CEC that contains IFLs, count all IFLs on the CEC. - Repeat for each CEC that has z/VM on it. (The CECs must have the same Enterprise ID.) - Add all the CPU numbers together. The price of z/VM is based on that total. Note that as the number of CPUs goes up, the average z/VM license cost per CPU goes down. (At your 4th CPU you start to see the price go down.) Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM and Linux
On 4/1/2011 at 03:41 PM, Michael Forte mjfo...@us.ibm.com wrote: Right, but unless I'm mistaken, z/VM workload is GP only. That hasn't been true for years, unless you're talking about traditional CMS-based workloads. In which case you may not be able to license all the IBM software you want on the IFL without going through the special bid process. The Linux workload is IFL only (or should be). That has never been true, except for the should be part. Linux doesn't care, just your CFO. No charge for IFL workload but there would be a minimal charge for the underlying z/VM processing (storage, memory, shared resources...)? Not sure what you're saying here. IFLs don't add to the z/OS MSU-based software charges. You still have to pay for any z/VM licenses and/or Linux subscriptions that you will be running on those IFLs. Mark Post
Re: z/VM and Linux
I stand corrected :-) From: Mark Post mp...@novell.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 04/01/2011 04:31 PM Subject:Re: z/VM and Linux Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU On 4/1/2011 at 03:41 PM, Michael Forte mjfo...@us.ibm.com wrote: Right, but unless I'm mistaken, z/VM workload is GP only. That hasn't been true for years, unless you're talking about traditional CMS-based workloads. In which case you may not be able to license all the IBM software you want on the IFL without going through the special bid process. The Linux workload is IFL only (or should be). That has never been true, except for the should be part. Linux doesn't care, just your CFO. No charge for IFL workload but there would be a minimal charge for the underlying z/VM processing (storage, memory, shared resources...)? Not sure what you're saying here. IFLs don't add to the z/OS MSU-based software charges. You still have to pay for any z/VM licenses and/or Linux subscriptions that you will be running on those IFLs. Mark Post
Re: z/VM and Linux
On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 04:16 EDT, Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com wrote: But that seems at odds with the deal we worked out with our local IBM marketeers for two z196 EC's, each with 16 IFLs and 32TB of storage; and two z/VM 6.1 licenses, and the all many IBM and ISV products we needed - with IBM owing *us* money instead of having to pay them anything! Each month we receive a large check by certified mail, and as we add IFLs and software the amount of the check increases. The devil is in the details - so pay close attention to the date of this note. Sam P. called me to verify that I was ok with the deal and I told him that it was the right thing to do. He said, Well, if you think so, ok. Alan The Detail Devil Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM and Linux
On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 04:28 EDT, Mark Wheeler mwheele...@hotmail.com wrote: Wouldn't you rather say: snip - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to use GPs, count all GPs on the CEC - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to use IFLs, count all IFLs on the CEC snip If you have one or more vs. If you have a .Hmmm Let us say you have two pieces of candy in your pocket and I ask, Do you have a piece of candy in your pocket? I think you'd be obliged to say Yes. But I'm an easy-going kind of guy and I'll say it any way you want as long as the numbers add up! And in the interests of creating confusion, I don't mean z/VM *mode* LPAR, but an LPAR [one or more LPARs] running z/VM. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM and Linux
If this was any more confusing it would have to be the IRS. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: On Friday, 04/01/2011 at 04:28 EDT, Mark Wheeler mwheele...@hotmail.com wrote: Wouldn't you rather say: snip - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to use GPs, count all GPs on the CEC - If you have a CEC with one or more z/VM LPARs that are defined to use IFLs, count all IFLs on the CEC snip If you have one or more vs. If you have a .Hmmm Let us say you have two pieces of candy in your pocket and I ask, Do you have a piece of candy in your pocket? I think you'd be obliged to say Yes. But I'm an easy-going kind of guy and I'll say it any way you want as long as the numbers add up! And in the interests of creating confusion, I don't mean z/VM *mode* LPAR, but an LPAR [one or more LPARs] running z/VM. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: z/VM and Linux
Right, but unless I'm mistaken, z/VM workload is GP only. The Linux workload is IFL only (or should be). There's nothing in the code that cares what kind of processor it runs on. There are licensing issues with CMS workload (and running VSE and z/OS guests) in that it's really expensive to run Linux workload on CPs, but neither VM or Linux or OpenSolaris care about CP vs IFL. Note that it is almost impossible to license the remaining CMS-hosted products on IFLs (note the almost) due to licensing restrictions, so if you have any measurable CMS usage, you're likely to be stuck on CPs simply because you can't get any of the tools at a reasonable price (or in some cases, ANY price) on IFLs. IFLs are more a licensing trick than any real technology difference. -- db
