Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 06/06/2008 at 05:19 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I specified the MTU on the Gateway statement!
 
 The error was DTCPRS051E ? Line 24: Invalid Packet Size in Gateway 
Command: 
 16384

I think the problem is that 16384 exceeds the LARGEENVELOPEPOOLSIZE, which 
defaults to 8K.  No MTU can exceed the L-E-P-Size.  Since the GATEWAY 
entry was then discarded, TCP/IP should have taken the default, which is 
4000 for HiperSockets.

From the TCP/IP Messages and Codes book:

DTCPRS051E Line line: Invalid packet size in GATEWAY command: value

Explanation: You specified an invalid max_packet_size in a GATEWAY 
statement. The size must be a positive integer between 576 (the IPv4 
minimum MTU value) and the large envelope size (specified on the 
LARGEENVELOPEPOOLSIZE statement).

If this doesn't jive with what you witnessed, please open a PMR so that we 
can investigate more fully.  I'm not happy with the NETSTAT output you 
reported.  MFS was 24K, and MTU should have been 4000 - subject to 
documentation errors.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-07 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Thanks Alan, I will verify this and will open a PMR if needed!

Thanks, Terry

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:45 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

On Friday, 06/06/2008 at 05:19 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I specified the MTU on the Gateway statement!
 
 The error was DTCPRS051E ? Line 24: Invalid Packet Size in Gateway 
Command: 
 16384

I think the problem is that 16384 exceeds the LARGEENVELOPEPOOLSIZE,
which 
defaults to 8K.  No MTU can exceed the L-E-P-Size.  Since the GATEWAY 
entry was then discarded, TCP/IP should have taken the default, which is

4000 for HiperSockets.

From the TCP/IP Messages and Codes book:

DTCPRS051E Line line: Invalid packet size in GATEWAY command: value

Explanation: You specified an invalid max_packet_size in a GATEWAY 
statement. The size must be a positive integer between 576 (the IPv4 
minimum MTU value) and the large envelope size (specified on the 
LARGEENVELOPEPOOLSIZE statement).

If this doesn't jive with what you witnessed, please open a PMR so that
we 
can investigate more fully.  I'm not happy with the NETSTAT output you 
reported.  MFS was 24K, and MTU should have been 4000 - subject to 
documentation errors.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-06 Thread Peggy Williams

Terry,
What statement did you specify the MTU on - Gateway or Link?
And what was the error you got?

Peggy Williams
z/VM - TCP/IP Development



   
 Martin, Terry R. 
 (CMS/CTR) (CTR)  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To
 .hhs.gov IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
 Sent by: The IBM   cc
 z/VM Operating
 SystemSubject
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: HiperSockets Setup  
 ARK.EDU  
   
   
 06/06/2008 09:42  
 AM
   
   
 Please respond to 
   The IBM z/VM
 Operating System  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 ARK.EDU  
   
   




Yes, Thanks Alan. In the TCPIP PROFILE I did specify 16K but I received
an error so I changed it to 1500 which I new would get around the error.
When I did the NETSTAT displays I saw a MFS of 4096 and MTU of 32768. So
I guess the question is why did I get the error in the TCPIP PROFILE
specifying 16K? Am I missing something?

Thanks.. Terry

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - CITIC
z/OS Performance and Tuning
(410) 786-0386 - Office
(443) 632-4191 - Cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 05:14 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Basically once I got the filename correct and added the PASSWORD for
the

 TCPMAINT 198 disk I was able to get the OBEYFILE command to work. I
did
receive
 an error on my first good try. It was balking about the MTU size being

invalid.
 I was using 16384. I changed it to 1500 and tried the OBEYFILE command

again
 and it worked.

 I noticed on the NETSTAT displays that the MTU actually was 32768 with
a
Frame
 Size of 4096. I used a HIPERSOCKETS device that was GENed with
CHPARM=40. So
 basically it did not use the MTU size that I had defined in the
PROFILE
TCPIP.

CHPARM=40 is a MFS of 24K, not 4096.  The MTU = MFS - 8K, so the MTU is
16K.  (Doc'd in the IOCP book.)

Be sure everyone using the same HiperSocket chpid has the same MTU.  If
you don't, a PING will work, but a large data transfer won't.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-06 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Yes, Thanks Alan. In the TCPIP PROFILE I did specify 16K but I received
an error so I changed it to 1500 which I new would get around the error.
When I did the NETSTAT displays I saw a MFS of 4096 and MTU of 32768. So
I guess the question is why did I get the error in the TCPIP PROFILE
specifying 16K? Am I missing something?

Thanks.. Terry

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - CITIC
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office
(443) 632-4191 - Cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 05:14 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Basically once I got the filename correct and added the PASSWORD for
the 

 TCPMAINT 198 disk I was able to get the OBEYFILE command to work. I
did 
receive 
 an error on my first good try. It was balking about the MTU size being

invalid. 
 I was using 16384. I changed it to 1500 and tried the OBEYFILE command

again 
 and it worked.
 
 I noticed on the NETSTAT displays that the MTU actually was 32768 with
a 
Frame 
 Size of 4096. I used a HIPERSOCKETS device that was GENed with 
CHPARM=40. So 
 basically it did not use the MTU size that I had defined in the
PROFILE 
TCPIP.

CHPARM=40 is a MFS of 24K, not 4096.  The MTU = MFS - 8K, so the MTU is 
16K.  (Doc'd in the IOCP book.)

Be sure everyone using the same HiperSocket chpid has the same MTU.  If 
you don't, a PING will work, but a large data transfer won't.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-06 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi Peggy,

 

I specified the MTU on the Gateway statement!

 

The error was DTCPRS051E - Line 24: Invalid Packet Size in Gateway
Command: 16384

Thanks.. Terry 

Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - CITIC 
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office 
(443) 632-4191 - Cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peggy Williams
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

 

Terry,
What statement did you specify the MTU on - Gateway or Link?
And what was the error you got?

Peggy Williams
z/VM - TCP/IP Development

Inactive hide details for Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 

06/06/2008 09:42 AM 

Please respond to
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



To


IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



cc





Subject


Re: HiperSockets Setup

 






Yes, Thanks Alan. In the TCPIP PROFILE I did specify 16K but I received
an error so I changed it to 1500 which I new would get around the error.
When I did the NETSTAT displays I saw a MFS of 4096 and MTU of 32768. So
I guess the question is why did I get the error in the TCPIP PROFILE
specifying 16K? Am I missing something?

Thanks.. Terry

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - CITIC
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office
(443) 632-4191 - Cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 05:14 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Basically once I got the filename correct and added the PASSWORD for
the 

 TCPMAINT 198 disk I was able to get the OBEYFILE command to work. I
did 
receive 
 an error on my first good try. It was balking about the MTU size being

invalid. 
 I was using 16384. I changed it to 1500 and tried the OBEYFILE command

again 
 and it worked.
 
 I noticed on the NETSTAT displays that the MTU actually was 32768 with
a 
Frame 
 Size of 4096. I used a HIPERSOCKETS device that was GENed with 
CHPARM=40. So 
 basically it did not use the MTU size that I had defined in the
PROFILE 
TCPIP.

CHPARM=40 is a MFS of 24K, not 4096.  The MTU = MFS - 8K, so the MTU is 
16K.  (Doc'd in the IOCP book.)

Be sure everyone using the same HiperSocket chpid has the same MTU.  If 
you don't, a PING will work, but a large data transfer won't.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Peggy Williams

Terry,
The message
DTCOBE005E Unable to read file 'Filename Filetype filemode'
means that it cannot read your configuration file for some reason.  Do you
have the correct filename, filetype and filemode?


Peggy Williams
607-429-4063
z/VM - TCP/IP Development



   
 Martin, Terry R. 
 (CMS/CTR) (CTR)  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To
 .hhs.gov IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
 Sent by: The IBM   cc
 z/VM Operating
 SystemSubject
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] HiperSockets Setup  
 ARK.EDU  
   
   
 06/04/2008 04:44  
 PM
   
   
 Please respond to 
   The IBM z/VM
 Operating System  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 ARK.EDU  
   
   




Hi

I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with the
syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the HIPERSOCKETS
Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made the changes to
the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am trying to do the
OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E error message. I
assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE but I cannot find the
description of the error message. Anyone know where I might find it?




Thanks.. Terry


Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - CITIC
z/OS Performance and Tuning
(410) 786-0386 - Office
(443) 632-4191 - Cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
And don't forget the minidisk-read-password like I always do.  

 

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474



From: Peggy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:15 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

 

Terry,
The message 
DTCOBE005E Unable to read file 'Filename Filetype filemode'
means that it cannot read your configuration file for some reason. Do
you have the correct filename, filetype and filemode?


Peggy Williams
607-429-4063
z/VM - TCP/IP Development

Inactive hide details for Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 

06/04/2008 04:44 PM 

Please respond to
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



To


IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



cc





Subject


HiperSockets Setup

 






Hi 

I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with
the syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the
HIPERSOCKETS Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made
the changes to the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am
trying to do the OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E
error message. I assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE
but I cannot find the description of the error message. Anyone know
where I might find it?

Thanks.. Terry 

Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - CITIC 
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office 
(443) 632-4191 - Cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 



Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi 

I will reproduce the error today and send you want I see. The text of
the error does not really say a whole lot. I probably have some kind of
syntax error but it is not so obvious.

Thanks.. Terry

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - CITIC
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office
(443) 632-4191 - Cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Ackerman
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:04 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:44:05 -0500, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w=
rote:

Terry,

Looking in the z/VM 530 TCP/IP Messages and Codes manual, there's no
DTCOBE0055E message listed.  OBVIOUSLY, it must be self-documenting!
That typed with disapproval of self-documenting messages dripping
fro=
m
the keyboard.  In fact there's only 1 (count 'em, ONE) numbered
OBEYFIL=
E
message, and three unnumbered messages.  DTCOBE0055E must be newer than
the -02 manual I'm looking in.

Could you please copy/paste the specific message you are seeing?


I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with
th=
e
syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the
HIPERSOCKETS Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made
the changes to the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am
tryi=
ng
to do the OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E error
message. I assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE but I
cannot find the description of the error message. Anyone know where I
might find it?

Interesting little game of telephone here. DTCOBE005E - DTCOBE0055E.
B=
ut I could find 
neither one in LookAt.

z/VM TCP/IP has numerous undocumented messages. Every time we complain
we=
 get the same 
response which would you rather have us do, document  messages or write
=
new code. 

Open an incident with IBM. And include the full message text. Maybe they
=
will get tired of 
answering the same questions over and over and document the messages.

-OR-

Go read the restrictions of what can and cannot be changed with OBEYFILE
=
in TCP/IP 
Planning and Customization. Some things cannot be changed, and must NOT
b=
e in the file 
supplied to OBEYFILE. In particular, it cannot handle a full PROFILE
TCPI=
P.

Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com 


Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi Peggy,

 

I just left you a voice message. If you could give me a call back, it
would be great!

 

I will update the thread as we talk through the issue!

 

Thanks.. Terry 

Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - CITIC 
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office 
(443) 632-4191 - Cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peggy Williams
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:15 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

 

Terry,
The message 
DTCOBE005E Unable to read file 'Filename Filetype filemode'
means that it cannot read your configuration file for some reason. Do
you have the correct filename, filetype and filemode?


Peggy Williams
607-429-4063
z/VM - TCP/IP Development

Inactive hide details for Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 

06/04/2008 04:44 PM 

Please respond to
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



To


IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



cc





Subject


HiperSockets Setup

 






Hi 

I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with
the syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the
HIPERSOCKETS Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made
the changes to the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am
trying to do the OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E
error message. I assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE
but I cannot find the description of the error message. Anyone know
where I might find it?

Thanks.. Terry 

Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - CITIC 
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office 
(443) 632-4191 - Cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 



Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Thanks

 

Thanks.. Terry 

Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - CITIC 
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office 
(443) 632-4191 - Cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:20 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

 

And don't forget the minidisk-read-password like I always do.  

 

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474



From: Peggy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:15 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

 

Terry,
The message 
DTCOBE005E Unable to read file 'Filename Filetype filemode'
means that it cannot read your configuration file for some reason. Do
you have the correct filename, filetype and filemode?


Peggy Williams
607-429-4063
z/VM - TCP/IP Development

Inactive hide details for Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 

06/04/2008 04:44 PM 

Please respond to
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



To


IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



cc





Subject


HiperSockets Setup

 






Hi 

I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with
the syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the
HIPERSOCKETS Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made
the changes to the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am
trying to do the OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E
error message. I assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE
but I cannot find the description of the error message. Anyone know
where I might find it?

Thanks.. Terry 

Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - CITIC 
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office 
(443) 632-4191 - Cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 



Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 09:20 EDT, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And don?t forget the minidisk-read-password like I always do.  

(Pt!  Hey, buddy!  Over here.  Wanna buy a security manager?  No more 
worries about minidisk passwords.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
You mean like RACF? It's planned. Budgets/Approval/Papperwork!

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474


-Original Message-
From: Alan Altmark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:51 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 09:20 EDT, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And don?t forget the minidisk-read-password like I always do.  

(Pt!  Hey, buddy!  Over here.  Wanna buy a security manager?  No
more 
worries about minidisk passwords.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/04/2008 at 06:44 EDT, Mike Walter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looking in the z/VM 530 TCP/IP Messages and Codes manual, there's no
 DTCOBE0055E message listed.  OBVIOUSLY, it must be self-documenting!
 That typed with disapproval of self-documenting messages dripping 
from
 the keyboard.  In fact there's only 1 (count 'em, ONE) numbered 
OBEYFILE
 message, and three unnumbered messages.  DTCOBE0055E must be newer than
 the -02 manual I'm looking in.

obeyfile x tcpip 
VM TCP/IP Obeyfile 
DTCOBE005E Unable to read file 'X TCPIP A' 
TPMAINT at GDLVMK4(00012); T=0.01/0.01 10:00:30 

That would be far better as
DTC0BE005E File 'X TCPIP A' not found
TPMAINT at GDLVMK4(00028);
..but it is what it is.  C'est la vie.

If you call us about something and there is a related message which is not 
documented that is preventing you from discovering the error, we will add 
it to the book.  But please don't call us just to tell us that some 
message is missing.  Chuckie knows where you live and what kind of car you 
drive, if ya know whaddi mean.

If you want to know what to put into an OBEY file, try using ifconfig.

ifconfig -show hsi0 10.1.2.3 mask 255.255.255.0 mtu 1500 hipers b000

will show you the statements that need to be in the obey file.  (Without 
the -show it will actually do the obeyfile.)  It can be very handy when 
you are using virtual networks since it will also show you the DEFINEs and 
COUPLEs.

This doesn't help with getting past OBEYFILE file access errors, of 
course, but it helps with content.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Mark Pace
Gets me every time.

OBEYFILE fn ft fm (readpassword   for the minidisk the file is on.


On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  And don't forget the minidisk-read-password like I always do.



 Bobby Bauer
 Center for Information Technology
 National Institutes of Health
 Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
 301-594-7474
   --

 *From:* Peggy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:15 AM
 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: HiperSockets Setup



 Terry,
 The message
 DTCOBE005E Unable to read file '*Filename Filetype filemode*'
 means that it cannot read your configuration file for some reason. Do you
 have the correct filename, filetype and filemode?


 Peggy Williams
 607-429-4063
 z/VM - TCP/IP Development

 [image: Inactive hide details for Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]]Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   *Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED]*
 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

 06/04/2008 04:44 PM

 Please respond to
 The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

To


 IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

 cc

Subject


 HiperSockets Setup




 Hi

 I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with the
 syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the HIPERSOCKETS
 Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made the changes to
 the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am trying to do the
 OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E error message. I
 assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE but I cannot find the
 description of the error message. Anyone know where I might find it?

 *Thanks.. Terry*

 *Terry Martin* *
 Lockheed Martin - CITIC* *
 z/OS Performance and Tuning
 (410) 786-0386 - Office* *
 (443) 632-4191 - Cell* *
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]






-- 
Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems


Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 06/05/2008 at 05:14 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Basically once I got the filename correct and added the PASSWORD for the 

 TCPMAINT 198 disk I was able to get the OBEYFILE command to work. I did 
receive 
 an error on my first good try. It was balking about the MTU size being 
invalid. 
 I was using 16384. I changed it to 1500 and tried the OBEYFILE command 
again 
 and it worked.
 
 I noticed on the NETSTAT displays that the MTU actually was 32768 with a 
Frame 
 Size of 4096. I used a HIPERSOCKETS device that was GENed with 
CHPARM=40. So 
 basically it did not use the MTU size that I had defined in the PROFILE 
TCPIP.

CHPARM=40 is a MFS of 24K, not 4096.  The MTU = MFS - 8K, so the MTU is 
16K.  (Doc'd in the IOCP book.)

Be sure everyone using the same HiperSocket chpid has the same MTU.  If 
you don't, a PING will work, but a large data transfer won't.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi 

 

I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with
the syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the
HIPERSOCKETS Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made
the changes to the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am
trying to do the OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E
error message. I assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE
but I cannot find the description of the error message. Anyone know
where I might find it?

 

 

Thanks.. Terry 

Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - CITIC 
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office 
(443) 632-4191 - Cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  

 



Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Mike Walter
Terry,

Looking in the z/VM 530 TCP/IP Messages and Codes manual, there's no 
DTCOBE0055E message listed.  OBVIOUSLY, it must be self-documenting!
That typed with disapproval of self-documenting messages dripping from 
the keyboard.  In fact there's only 1 (count 'em, ONE) numbered OBEYFILE 
message, and three unnumbered messages.  DTCOBE0055E must be newer than 
the -02 manual I'm looking in.

Could you please copy/paste the specific message you are seeing?

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
06/04/2008 03:44 PM
Please respond to
The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



To
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
cc

Subject
HiperSockets Setup






Hi 
 
I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with the 
syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the 
HIPERSOCKETS Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made 
the changes to the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am trying 
to do the OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E error 
message. I assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE but I 
cannot find the description of the error message. Anyone know where I 
might find it?
 
 
Thanks.. Terry 
Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - CITIC 
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office 
(443) 632-4191 - Cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 



The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may 
contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from 
disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this 
message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender 
by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any 
dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by 
anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages 
sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by 
applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies 
and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to 
be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or 
contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate 
with us by e-mail. 


Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Kreiter, Chuck
Make sure you use the 2007 version of the Hipersockets Redbook.  I was
never able to get it to work with the 2002 edition.  



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:44 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: HiperSockets Setup



Hi 

 

I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with
the syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the
HIPERSOCKETS Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made
the changes to the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am
trying to do the OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E
error message. I assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE
but I cannot find the description of the error message. Anyone know
where I might find it?

 

 

Thanks.. Terry 

Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - CITIC 
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office 
(443) 632-4191 - Cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  

 



Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi

 

Yes, I have the 2007 version!

 

Any Idea what the error message means?

 

Thanks, Terry

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kreiter, Chuck
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:29 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup

 

Make sure you use the 2007 version of the Hipersockets Redbook.  I was
never able to get it to work with the 2002 edition.  

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:44 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: HiperSockets Setup

Hi 

 

I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with
the syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the
HIPERSOCKETS Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made
the changes to the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am
trying to do the OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E
error message. I assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE
but I cannot find the description of the error message. Anyone know
where I might find it?

 

 

Thanks.. Terry 

Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - CITIC 
z/OS Performance and Tuning 
(410) 786-0386 - Office 
(443) 632-4191 - Cell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  

 



Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Mike Walter
All you have provided so far is the message ID, which is not in current doc..  
It would be most helpful if you could paste the complete message so that we 
might have a little more to work with.

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates


- Original Message -
From: Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06/04/2008 10:10 PM AST
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup



Hi



Yes, I have the 2007 version!



Any Idea what the error message means?



Thanks, Terry





From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kreiter, Chuck
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:29 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: HiperSockets Setup



Make sure you use the 2007 version of the Hipersockets Redbook.  I was
never able to get it to work with the 2002 edition.





From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:44 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: HiperSockets Setup

Hi



I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with
the syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the
HIPERSOCKETS Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made
the changes to the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am
trying to do the OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E
error message. I assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE
but I cannot find the description of the error message. Anyone know
where I might find it?





Thanks.. Terry

Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - CITIC
z/OS Performance and Tuning
(410) 786-0386 - Office
(443) 632-4191 - Cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may 
contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from 
disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this 
message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender 
by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any 
dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by 
anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages 
sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by 
applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies 
and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to 
be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or 
contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate 
with us by e-mail. 




Re: HiperSockets Setup

2008-06-04 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:44:05 -0500, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] w
rote:

Terry,

Looking in the z/VM 530 TCP/IP Messages and Codes manual, there's no
DTCOBE0055E message listed.  OBVIOUSLY, it must be self-documenting!
That typed with disapproval of self-documenting messages dripping fro
m
the keyboard.  In fact there's only 1 (count 'em, ONE) numbered OBEYFIL
E
message, and three unnumbered messages.  DTCOBE0055E must be newer than
the -02 manual I'm looking in.

Could you please copy/paste the specific message you are seeing?


I am setting up HIPERSOCKETS for the first time and I am dealing with th
e
syntax of the TCPIP PROFILE for the first time. I am using the
HIPERSOCKETS Implementation Guide Red Book to walk through this. I made
the changes to the PROFILE TCPIP and the SYSTEM DTCPARMS file. I am tryi
ng
to do the OBEYFILE PROFILE TCPIP and I am receiving a DTCOBE005E error
message. I assume it is some kind of syntax error in the PROFILE but I
cannot find the description of the error message. Anyone know where I
might find it?

Interesting little game of telephone here. DTCOBE005E - DTCOBE0055E. B
ut I could find 
neither one in LookAt.

z/VM TCP/IP has numerous undocumented messages. Every time we complain we
 get the same 
response which would you rather have us do, document  messages or write 
new code. 

Open an incident with IBM. And include the full message text. Maybe they 
will get tired of 
answering the same questions over and over and document the messages.

-OR-

Go read the restrictions of what can and cannot be changed with OBEYFILE 
in TCP/IP 
Planning and Customization. Some things cannot be changed, and must NOT b
e in the file 
supplied to OBEYFILE. In particular, it cannot handle a full PROFILE TCPI
P.

Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com