Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
That grinding noise in the background? That's the sound of your moderator, observed in a poorly-suppressed fit of bruxism induced by choking back one of those "harrumphing" noises. Allow me to suggest that we defer further discussion of the off-topic aspects of this thread until, oh... some time in 2015? No reply necessary. Really. ;-) -dan. Daniel P. Martin - IBMVM List Janitor dmar...@gizmoworks.com / modera...@gizmoworks.com On 7/7/2011 9:09 AM, John McKown wrote: Gee, this thread really should be on IBM-MAIN. Talk about off topic; ) -- John McKown Maranatha! <>< Sent from my Vibrant Android phone.
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
Gee, this thread really should be on IBM-MAIN. Talk about off topic; ) -- John McKown Maranatha! <>< Sent from my Vibrant Android phone. On Jul 7, 2011 8:39 AM, "RPN01" wrote: Sports Illustrated says the world is ending December 31st, 2011. At least that's when their calendar ends. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." On 7/7/11 8:30 AM, "Dean, David (I/S)" wrote: > I just came from the cale...
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
Sports Illustrated says the world is ending December 31st, 2011. At least that's when their calendar ends. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." On 7/7/11 8:30 AM, "Dean, David (I/S)" wrote: > I just came from the calendar kiosk at the mall. They did not have any Mayan > calendars, so I got one with cute little bunnies on it, guess we're good for > 12 months! >
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
I just came from the calendar kiosk at the mall. They did not have any Mayan calendars, so I got one with cute little bunnies on it, guess we're good for 12 months! -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 Or maybe they just thought that's all the calendar anyone would ever need, like 640K on a PC and 16MB on a mainframe? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer; MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Company Phone: (254) 761-6649 Fax: (254) 741-5777 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Rich Greenberg Sent: Wed 7/6/2011 4:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 On: Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 04:30:59PM -0500,Mike Walter Wrote: } > However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model. } } Right, sure. It hasn't had a chance to be wrong... yet. Somewhere (the 'net?) I happened across an article by a well-respected researcher, stating that the Mayan calendar continues on just fine. We'll see... maybe the Mayan guy's chisel just wore down? I saw a cartoon a while ago showing 2 Mayans talking. One asked the other why the calendar ended in 2012, and the reply was "thats where we ran out of space on the stone tablet". -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero & Casey (At the bridge)Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red & Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
Or maybe they just thought that's all the calendar anyone would ever need, like 640K on a PC and 16MB on a mainframe? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer; MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Company Phone: (254) 761-6649 Fax: (254) 741-5777 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Rich Greenberg Sent: Wed 7/6/2011 4:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 On: Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 04:30:59PM -0500,Mike Walter Wrote: } > However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model. } } Right, sure. It hasn't had a chance to be wrong... yet. Somewhere (the 'net?) I happened across an article by a well-respected researcher, stating that the Mayan calendar continues on just fine. We'll see... maybe the Mayan guy's chisel just wore down? I saw a cartoon a while ago showing 2 Mayans talking. One asked the other why the calendar ended in 2012, and the reply was "thats where we ran out of space on the stone tablet". -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero & Casey (At the bridge)Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red & Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
> > However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model. > > Right, sure. It hasn't had a chance to be wrong... yet. Somewhere (the > 'net?) I happened across an article by a well-respected researcher, stating > that the Mayan calendar continues on just fine. We'll see... maybe the > Mayan guy's chisel just wore down? No, the calendar resets to baktun 0.0.0.0.0, which is effectively only a new cycle. (BTW, writing a Maya date conversion routine is a great programming problem for new REXX programmers -- involves base 20 math, and if you add the full day god and hour of the night specs, it's a great exercise). It's 12.19.18.7.17 13 Caban 5 Zotz for those keeping count at home. 8-)
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement
> As I mentioned back in 2009 (what? you don't remember?), CMS still > supports the "Alternate VSAM Emulator" added in 1985. It was specifically > invented to enable Something Else to get control when VSAM macros were > used. SQL/DS exploited it back in the day, if memory serves, but I don't > know if DB2/VM supports it. (Maybe we added it for the short-lived > CICS/VM?) Oh, *I* remember. I just find it annoying that no one at IBM seems to remember (other than you), and the lack of a major prereq seems to be a convenient excuse for more and more IBM CMS-based products to go quietly into that good night, never to be seen again.
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement
VSE/VSAM has had a lot of enhancements over the last few years. It was getting to be a maintenance headache to also keep VM/VSAM compatible with VSE/VSAM. Also, VM/VSAM was part of VSE/VSAM so those customers using it that also had VSE did not have to pay anything. The ROI was not good for all the new coding that was going to have to be done. I think it was a mistake, but I don't run IBM so have no say in the matter. :-) Tony Thigpen Opinions are my own. -Original Message - From: Tom Huegel Sent: 07/06/2011 05:13 PM Other than to say 'it was a buisness decision' has IBM ever actually said why they killed VM-VSE/VSAM?? What the heck, it still works in VSE .. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, David Boyes mailto:dbo...@sinenomine.net>> wrote: > Don't know if you all saw this. > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM > product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh. Figures. That VSAM thing is the killer prereq -- everything that started life on MVS requires it as a prereq, and thus is doomed to destruction. Convenient excuse to kill off more CMS applications.
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
My friends and I have speculated on the fact he decided it was time to go fishing. Ed Martin direct: 330-363-5050 internal Extension: 35050 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Greenberg Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 On: Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 04:30:59PM -0500,Mike Walter Wrote: } > However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model. } } Right, sure. It hasn't had a chance to be wrong... yet. Somewhere (the 'net?) I happened across an article by a well-respected researcher, stating that the Mayan calendar continues on just fine. We'll see... maybe the Mayan guy's chisel just wore down? I saw a cartoon a while ago showing 2 Mayans talking. One asked the other why the calendar ended in 2012, and the reply was "thats where we ran out of space on the stone tablet". -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero & Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red & Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
On: Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 04:30:59PM -0500,Mike Walter Wrote: } > However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model. } } Right, sure. It hasn't had a chance to be wrong... yet. Somewhere (the 'net?) I happened across an article by a well-respected researcher, stating that the Mayan calendar continues on just fine. We'll see... maybe the Mayan guy's chisel just wore down? I saw a cartoon a while ago showing 2 Mayans talking. One asked the other why the calendar ended in 2012, and the reply was "thats where we ran out of space on the stone tablet". -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero & Casey (At the bridge)Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red & Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
> However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model. Right, sure. It hasn't had a chance to be wrong... yet. Somewhere (the 'net?) I happened across an article by a well-respected researcher, stating that the Mayan calendar continues on just fine. We'll see... maybe the Mayan guy's chisel just wore down? Besides, *WE* all know that the world ends in August 2042, when the old 360 TOD clock wraps! ;-)~ Isn't it rather egotistical to believe that world must end during *our* lifetimes? Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward M Martin Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 Yea the same guy was wrong before too. But this time he was supposed to be more accurate. YOL! Ed Martin direct: 330-363-5050 internal Extension: 35050 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:11 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 Yeah, then there was that other nut-case who predicted EoW for May 21 of this year. He didn't admit that he had made a mistake until well after that day. However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger Hawkinson > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:50 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM > Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 > > It won't matter, Marcy. > EoW (End of World) set to end on Dec. 21, 2012. > CR reviewed/approved for that event. > > Roger > > Operating Systems Engineer, z/VM and Linux on IBM System z > Enterprise Hosting Services, Mainframe/Midrange Services > > Wells Fargo Bank | 1220 Concord Ave | Concord, CA MAC > A0314-029 Tel 925-686-7317 | Cell 415-238-1358 > > hawki...@wellsfargo.com > > This message may contain confidential and/or privileged > information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to > receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, > disclose, or take any action based on this message or any > information herein. If you have received this message in > error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail > and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:38 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement > > Don't know if you all saw this. > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance > the VM product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh. > > > > -- > > > The purpose of this email is to advise you of a change in > status of IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM. This > information is date sensitive. If you are not currently > responsible for these products within your organization, > please immediately forward this email to the responsible > individual(s). As the e-business and information technology > landscapes are changing, Sterling Commerce must adapt its > offerings to match current requirements. We are therefore > announcing the phased withdrawal of some of our current > products and services. > > Details: > -The decision to end service of IBM Sterling > Connect:Direct for z/VM was made as a result of the product's > dependence on the IBM VSE/VSAM module for z/VM which is no > longer supported by IBM. > -End of Service - 12/31/2012 - The product will no > longer be supported by IBM > > You will have two choices: > -Migrate to another IBM Sterling Connect:Direct > platform by the End of Service date. > -Continue using IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM > beyond the end of service date without continued IBM/Sterling Support. > > More information is available on the Sterling Commerce > Customer Center site linked here: Connect Products End of > Life Migration/Entitlement Page (Please note, you need a > username and password to enter the site) > > Your IBM sales representative can help provide you with > additional information on IBM/Sterling offerings. > > Regards, > Rob Hall > IBM Sterling MFT Product Management > ster...@us.ibm.com >
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement
CICS/VM .. I had almost forgotten about that beast. Back in the day my boss thought he could get rid of VSE and run CICS/VM only... It was quite comical at the time, because the IBM sales staff had not even heard of CICS/VM .. although they were happy to sell it to us... Needless to say, it never made it off the ground. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: > On Wednesday, 07/06/2011 at 04:59 EDT, David Boyes > wrote: > > > Don't know if you all saw this. > > > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM > > > product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh. > > > > Figures. That VSAM thing is the killer prereq -- everything that started > life > > on MVS requires it as a prereq, and thus is doomed to destruction. > Convenient > > excuse to kill off more CMS applications. > > As I mentioned back in 2009 (what? you don't remember?), CMS still > supports the "Alternate VSAM Emulator" added in 1985. It was specifically > invented to enable Something Else to get control when VSAM macros were > used. SQL/DS exploited it back in the day, if memory serves, but I don't > know if DB2/VM supports it. (Maybe we added it for the short-lived > CICS/VM?) > > See the CMS Application Development Guide to Assembler for details. > > Alan Altmark > > Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant > IBM System Lab Services and Training > ibm.com/systems/services/labservices > office: 607.429.3323 > mobile; 607.321.7556 > alan_altm...@us.ibm.com > IBM Endicott >
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement
On Wednesday, 07/06/2011 at 04:59 EDT, David Boyes wrote: > > Don't know if you all saw this. > > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM > > product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh. > > Figures. That VSAM thing is the killer prereq -- everything that started life > on MVS requires it as a prereq, and thus is doomed to destruction. Convenient > excuse to kill off more CMS applications. As I mentioned back in 2009 (what? you don't remember?), CMS still supports the "Alternate VSAM Emulator" added in 1985. It was specifically invented to enable Something Else to get control when VSAM macros were used. SQL/DS exploited it back in the day, if memory serves, but I don't know if DB2/VM supports it. (Maybe we added it for the short-lived CICS/VM?) See the CMS Application Development Guide to Assembler for details. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement
It still works under z/VM 5.3 service level 0703. I did find some idcams listcat functions that were 'inaccurate'. Ed Martin direct: 330-363-5050 internal Extension: 35050 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement Other than to say 'it was a buisness decision' has IBM ever actually said why they killed VM-VSE/VSAM?? What the heck, it still works in VSE .. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, David Boyes wrote: > Don't know if you all saw this. > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM > product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh. Figures. That VSAM thing is the killer prereq -- everything that started life on MVS requires it as a prereq, and thus is doomed to destruction. Convenient excuse to kill off more CMS applications.
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement
More fallout from that very strange decision to kill VSAM. :-( On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote: > Don't know if you all saw this. > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM product. > Instead, they killed it. Sigh. > > > > > -- > > The purpose of this email is to advise you of a change in status of IBM > Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM. This information is date sensitive. If > you are not currently responsible for these products within your > organization, please immediately forward this email to the responsible > individual(s). As the e-business and information technology landscapes are > changing, Sterling Commerce must adapt its offerings to match current > requirements. We are therefore announcing the phased withdrawal of some of > our current products and services. > > Details: > -The decision to end service of IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for > z/VM was made as a result of the product's dependence on the IBM VSE/VSAM > module for z/VM which is no longer supported by IBM. > -End of Service - 12/31/2012 - The product will no longer be > supported by IBM > > You will have two choices: > -Migrate to another IBM Sterling Connect:Direct platform by the End > of Service date. > -Continue using IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM beyond the end > of service date without continued IBM/Sterling Support. > > More information is available on the Sterling Commerce Customer Center site > linked here: Connect Products End of Life Migration/Entitlement Page (Please > note, you need a username and password to enter the site) > > Your IBM sales representative can help provide you with additional > information on IBM/Sterling offerings. > > Regards, > Rob Hall > IBM Sterling MFT Product Management > ster...@us.ibm.com > >
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
Yea the same guy was wrong before too. But this time he was supposed to be more accurate. YOL! Ed Martin direct: 330-363-5050 internal Extension: 35050 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:11 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 Yeah, then there was that other nut-case who predicted EoW for May 21 of this year. He didn't admit that he had made a mistake until well after that day. However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger Hawkinson > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:50 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM > Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 > > It won't matter, Marcy. > EoW (End of World) set to end on Dec. 21, 2012. > CR reviewed/approved for that event. > > Roger > > Operating Systems Engineer, z/VM and Linux on IBM System z > Enterprise Hosting Services, Mainframe/Midrange Services > > Wells Fargo Bank | 1220 Concord Ave | Concord, CA MAC > A0314-029 Tel 925-686-7317 | Cell 415-238-1358 > > hawki...@wellsfargo.com > > This message may contain confidential and/or privileged > information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to > receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, > disclose, or take any action based on this message or any > information herein. If you have received this message in > error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail > and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:38 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement > > Don't know if you all saw this. > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance > the VM product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh. > > > > -- > > > The purpose of this email is to advise you of a change in > status of IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM. This > information is date sensitive. If you are not currently > responsible for these products within your organization, > please immediately forward this email to the responsible > individual(s). As the e-business and information technology > landscapes are changing, Sterling Commerce must adapt its > offerings to match current requirements. We are therefore > announcing the phased withdrawal of some of our current > products and services. > > Details: > -The decision to end service of IBM Sterling > Connect:Direct for z/VM was made as a result of the product's > dependence on the IBM VSE/VSAM module for z/VM which is no > longer supported by IBM. > -End of Service - 12/31/2012 - The product will no > longer be supported by IBM > > You will have two choices: > -Migrate to another IBM Sterling Connect:Direct > platform by the End of Service date. > -Continue using IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM > beyond the end of service date without continued IBM/Sterling Support. > > More information is available on the Sterling Commerce > Customer Center site linked here: Connect Products End of > Life Migration/Entitlement Page (Please note, you need a > username and password to enter the site) > > Your IBM sales representative can help provide you with > additional information on IBM/Sterling offerings. > > Regards, > Rob Hall > IBM Sterling MFT Product Management > ster...@us.ibm.com >
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement
Other than to say 'it was a buisness decision' has IBM ever actually said why they killed VM-VSE/VSAM?? What the heck, it still works in VSE .. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, David Boyes wrote: > > Don't know if you all saw this. > > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM > > product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh. > > Figures. That VSAM thing is the killer prereq -- everything that started > life on MVS requires it as a prereq, and thus is doomed to destruction. > Convenient excuse to kill off more CMS applications. >
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement
> Don't know if you all saw this. > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM > product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh. Figures. That VSAM thing is the killer prereq -- everything that started life on MVS requires it as a prereq, and thus is doomed to destruction. Convenient excuse to kill off more CMS applications.
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
Yeah, then there was that other nut-case who predicted EoW for May 21 of this year. He didn't admit that he had made a mistake until well after that day. However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger Hawkinson > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:50 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM > Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012 > > It won't matter, Marcy. > EoW (End of World) set to end on Dec. 21, 2012. > CR reviewed/approved for that event. > > Roger > > Operating Systems Engineer, z/VM and Linux on IBM System z > Enterprise Hosting Services, Mainframe/Midrange Services > > Wells Fargo Bank | 1220 Concord Ave | Concord, CA MAC > A0314-029 Tel 925-686-7317 | Cell 415-238-1358 > > hawki...@wellsfargo.com > > This message may contain confidential and/or privileged > information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to > receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, > disclose, or take any action based on this message or any > information herein. If you have received this message in > error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail > and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:38 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement > > Don't know if you all saw this. > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance > the VM product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh. > > > > -- > > > The purpose of this email is to advise you of a change in > status of IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM. This > information is date sensitive. If you are not currently > responsible for these products within your organization, > please immediately forward this email to the responsible > individual(s). As the e-business and information technology > landscapes are changing, Sterling Commerce must adapt its > offerings to match current requirements. We are therefore > announcing the phased withdrawal of some of our current > products and services. > > Details: > -The decision to end service of IBM Sterling > Connect:Direct for z/VM was made as a result of the product's > dependence on the IBM VSE/VSAM module for z/VM which is no > longer supported by IBM. > -End of Service - 12/31/2012 - The product will no > longer be supported by IBM > > You will have two choices: > -Migrate to another IBM Sterling Connect:Direct > platform by the End of Service date. > -Continue using IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM > beyond the end of service date without continued IBM/Sterling Support. > > More information is available on the Sterling Commerce > Customer Center site linked here: Connect Products End of > Life Migration/Entitlement Page (Please note, you need a > username and password to enter the site) > > Your IBM sales representative can help provide you with > additional information on IBM/Sterling offerings. > > Regards, > Rob Hall > IBM Sterling MFT Product Management > ster...@us.ibm.com >
Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
It won't matter, Marcy. EoW (End of World) set to end on Dec. 21, 2012. CR reviewed/approved for that event. Roger Operating Systems Engineer, z/VM and Linux on IBM System z Enterprise Hosting Services, Mainframe/Midrange Services Wells Fargo Bank | 1220 Concord Ave | Concord, CA MAC A0314-029 Tel 925-686-7317 | Cell 415-238-1358 hawki...@wellsfargo.com This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement Don't know if you all saw this. I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh. -- The purpose of this email is to advise you of a change in status of IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM. This information is date sensitive. If you are not currently responsible for these products within your organization, please immediately forward this email to the responsible individual(s). As the e-business and information technology landscapes are changing, Sterling Commerce must adapt its offerings to match current requirements. We are therefore announcing the phased withdrawal of some of our current products and services. Details: -The decision to end service of IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM was made as a result of the product's dependence on the IBM VSE/VSAM module for z/VM which is no longer supported by IBM. -End of Service - 12/31/2012 - The product will no longer be supported by IBM You will have two choices: -Migrate to another IBM Sterling Connect:Direct platform by the End of Service date. -Continue using IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM beyond the end of service date without continued IBM/Sterling Support. More information is available on the Sterling Commerce Customer Center site linked here: Connect Products End of Life Migration/Entitlement Page (Please note, you need a username and password to enter the site) Your IBM sales representative can help provide you with additional information on IBM/Sterling offerings. Regards, Rob Hall IBM Sterling MFT Product Management ster...@us.ibm.com
