Re: [IceHorses] A Rodeo Icelandic Horse
Atli doesn't like indoor arenas either. He had two runaway Icelandic run into him while he was a youngster the same day. One during a semi private lesson when the owner panicked which lead to a bolt. Another during a costume class when the "helmet" covered the riders eyes which lead to a bolt. Atli my green baby stood still both times and both times the horse ran right into him. Otherwise he is an incredible horse! Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Robyn's Mom
Robyn, warm thoughts for your mom and your family. Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] OT: Greys
Funny Grey Story... Last weekend a family came with their 3 yo daughter to pick a puppy. We visited a bit with the rambunctious puppies. Then the little girl saw Joey our rescue (abused) Congo Grey. She put her face up near the cage where Joey sat. Now Joey who never utters a word in the presence of visitors, said "Hello" whistled a couple of times and said... "Hello" again to the little girl. The parents ask which puppy she wants yep, she no longer wants a puppy, she wants Joey! Her parents told her no "Which puppy?" in classic I want a pony or nothing fashion if she couldn't have the bird she didn't want anything! She was trying so hard not to cry! She eventually left with a puppy and a smile. I still wonder at Joey's attraction to this little girl! Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] o/t She followed me home...
> Noas much as I loved Marty, his coat was tremendous and took three > to four sessions a year at the groomers at $100 each visit. Sorry to hear you lost Marty Wanda. As much as we love Bruneau we have decided we won't get another newf when he is gone. Bruneau will be 10 years old in 2 months, already! Maintaining his coat is a huge undertaking! Great dog though. You can see Bruneau at www.toltallyice.com/Bruneau.html Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] OT--Fwd: Diary of a Demented Snow Shoveller
OMG!! Hilarious! Bill had to park at the end of our 800' driveway last night when he got home from work (not the first time this winter), walk through the snow drifts to the house to get the snow blower to cut a path. I have to take the puppies to the vet for health certificates tomorrow he's scheduling work off to be here to make sure I can get out and back in an hour later! I just sent it on to him, I'm sure he'll identify! Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Who is this?
> That's not what I'd guess he's saying either - not that I understand > German > swear words... I don't think they're in German! :o) Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Nanna 3
> Look at her go sans bit on a loose rein and I'm thinking she > might be barefoot too. That is what NATURAL GAIT looks like. I don't think Nanna has ever been shod. Some may remember when Nanna won an Open 2 Gait Class at the EIGHA Gaited Horse Show. There were 22 or some gaited horses of all breeds in the class, professional trainers, and top regional riders. Nanna was the only Icelandic at the show. Nanna was barefoot and while I had a bit in her mouth, the reins weren't attached to it or even through the rings (Freedom Bridle). She showed a fantastic range of speed and even won an engraved plaque! Yeah Nanna! I'm so glad she has a great home with Kim! Boy was I surprised when we won! My first and maybe only blue ribbon for a riding class. Nanna won 1st in a costume class at the State Fair one year. I was at the show alone so I don't have any photos from the class. I'd love to see one or even better a video! The judge raved about her after I told him I was shocked that we won. I have one photo that I got a passerby to take after our big win! :o) I'll attach it. I have all kinds of great Nanna stories but most of you have heard them before! :o) Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com <>
Re: [IceHorses] Retractable leads
> Where would you buy that? I don't see them offered through the cataloges so many they're not available anymore? Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Drove home in a blizzard
My kids are grown, but back when... all the schools cancelled in our area but ours. I dutifully got the kids to school inspite of law enforcement telling everyone to stay home! Got home and heard on the radio... our school had finally decided to cancel, gr! Picked up my daughter at Junior High. On to the High School, no sign of my son. Went home, not there, called school, they search every room... not there. Finally hours later we get a call. My son had attempted to drive a group of girls home in one of their cars. They were plowing through snow drifts when they came to one they couldn't beat. They plowed half way through it and stopped, not going another inch. They were packed into the drift. They couldn't open the car doors. Pre cell phone days! It took them an hour to somehow work their way out of the car, I think someone even came by to try to help pull them out, didn't work but they managed to get the kids out. As I recall it was a week or so before they got the road they were on cleared and the car out of the drift. >From then on I decided whether or not to send the kids to school based on the recommendations of the local law enforcement not the school district! Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Retractable leads
Flexi makes a retractable lunge line. I don't know if I'd use one for a lead, but they're okay as a lunge line. Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Medium ponies
> Well, that's 69" which computes to the woman being 17.2 at > the top of her head. How much below the level of her head > are the horse's withers? Actually it's 17.1 hands. And I doubt she's barefoot so you can likely add and inch putting her at about 70". 5.3 hands is 63" so a differnce of approx. 7". Obviously the horse is tall! I prefer them around 13.2 hands. I'd say based on the photo and the women's height he is likely prett darn close to 15.3 hands. Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Nanna
It seems few are willing (basically no one these days) to offer an opinion as to what gait anymore. My guess is because of statements made degrading those that according to the self proclaimed expert label a gait wrong. Stiffles discussion and learning. Cheryl
Re: [IceHorses] Walter Feldmann
> Not the speed, but the timing of the legs. Looks like the horse adjusted it's movement for a stride or two to rebalance under a the rider. Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Walter Feldmann
> Did you see the difference in timing of the legs, > before and after the switch to the cantle seat? It appeared to me the horse took a quicker step or two (to rebalance under a moving rider) and then settled back into the previous gait/speed. Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Walter Feldmann
> In the video, at about 5:35 marker in time, you can see the > rider lift up off the saddle and sit on the cantle to get the gait: Looks to me like the horse was already gaiting. My guess is it's just as likely he lifted up to free up a squashed testicle. Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] bragur
> She is working towards getting Undri ready to be evaluated > but done from developing him with Connected Riding and > TTEAM - he may not get the highest scores but maybe it > will give an example of a different type of riding and > development of the horse. Robyn & Mandy that is very exciting! I look forward to news of the event! I have a mare that I brought here to recover from foundering in all four hooves after contracting PHF. I'd love to have her evaluated just to show that real recovery from founder is possible! I'd be thrilled to have her trained and shown in the same fashion! Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com The future of the Icelandic Sheepdog is our responsibility-- our legacy.
Re: [IceHorses] OT Happy New Year to everyone
Fun Bia! Farsælt Komandi Ár! Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Tivette ears
> You can also see all the > roan-like coloring on her face I have some of that "roan like" coloring as do my older girls. :o) Farsælt Komandi Ár! Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Garage-barn
> The attached photo I took today of the garage/workshop where I'm > planning to put 2 stalls in for Gat & Orri. The concrete is very slippery! Besides rubber the mats in their stalls you'll want a rubber matted pathway to the stall if there is more than a foot or so of concrete to walk over to get to the stalls. Gleðileg Jól og Farsælt Komandi Ár! Cheryl Icelandic Sheepdogs & Icelandic Horses www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] OT: Icelandic Sheepdogs
Hi Renee, I have a litter right now www.toltallyice.com/Cilia2007Litter.html I'll hopefully get new photos up tomorrow or Saturday--- I have to babysit the grandkids tomorrow. I'd planned to get new photos today but the lighting wasn't great. Gleðileg Jól og Farsælt Komandi Ár! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] I've been elfed!
> Would love to do one with my parrots, but I can't get their heads > to work right :( How's this http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1475325864 I couldn't find good photos of my greys so just these two. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Introduction to the Cherokee Bridle
There big screen tv is the computer monitor. > > Wooo-hooo! Big screen! I haven't seen any of the videos on a big screen > TV. Do they look OK? Yes, it really looked quite good. Funny, at first I thought he was asking "why was that horse balking", and I couldn't figure out why he thought the horse was balking or how he even came up with the term, then a light-- oh "barking"!! Too funny! Kids, gotta love 'em!! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Gotta love her
>I just sneaked out in the pre-dawn cold to put Stephanie's huge red > three-wheeled adaptive Christmas bicycle in the extra stall in the barn. > Yrsa was standing in the hall and thought the bike was very interesting. > She dropped her head for a good look and walked slowly up to sniff. > What a delightful change from the snort and flee reaction I have > become so accostomed to. Yep! Gotta love these Icelandics. Yep, they're horses, but IME they are different! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Lovely farm for Sale in KY - 80+ acres near Anneliese - VERY reasonable
> - it offends me to hear someone berate an entire state. How about an entire country? Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Bikes
> i parked a bike in view of the paddock and it didnt help when a bike > came along on the trail,. I guess a horse sees a bike parked way > different than a bike being ridden :) Some of the trails here are shared with mountain bikers. Once while on an elk bugle trail ride near Yellowstone a quiet, fast biker came up behind us around a blind corner, he passed half the horses before he could come to a stop. I knew then I needed all my horses to be familiar with bicycles being ridden! I went home and rode my bike around the pasture. The horses started out wary. I'd ride up the them and stop before I was so close they'd move off. If they stayed I'd click and treat them, got them coming closer to collect their treat. I no time at all the whole herd was chasing me around the pasture on my bike for a click and treat! I try to ride a bike around the pasture at least a couple times a year. Just another reason the neighbors think I'm nutty! LOL Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] OT - chickens
Okay I've always wanted chickens, but Bill says no way. Even though he loved the chickens he cared for as a kid. You guys are making me so envious with all your chicken talk! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: R E: [IceHorses] Leaving home on Dagur
> I am going to have my husband(when it stops > raining) to walk with me. Lorraine, when I got my first horse (a MFT and my daughter had a pony) Bill used to frequently ride his bike out with me. We weren't alone and Meshack got used to bikes! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Computer illiterate
it is an executable attachment, potential for virus, so my computer won't even give me the option to open it, thank you! I am sure I have it set up to not allow .exe attachments to be opened and could no doubt override the decision, but no thank you. :o) Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Corral Panels
> Excellent idea! My two stalls in my barn are pipe corral panels. > They work great. It is a great idea Virginia! I've used portable panels for many years without incidence. I would suggest making an area for each horse if it will be small, or as large as possible if the two will be together. Horses are prone to freak accidents, still we can't just set them free! :o) Do get panels that are square at the top corners or buy an insert so a horse can't get a hoof caught in the "V" where the two panels meet if they happen to rear up in play and come down with a hoof in between the panels. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] OT Fun - I'm a Great Dane
I'm a Great Dane too. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Icelandics' Feet
> I'd clarify though, that there are other causes for pain, > that shoes can help - some horses get pain relief from > shoes when they have navicular, and my horses certainly > were made more comfortable with shoes as treatment > for their laminitis attacks. IMHO navicular is almost entirely a manmade/shoe caused condition. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] OT- Adorable Baby Bats
On my wildlife webpage you can see a collage of a bat we rescued from the dogs recently. www.toltallyice.com/Wildlife.html Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] No Freeze water hose
> $1000.00 for 100 feet! I guess I'll walk the hose and bring it in the > house when we get below 20 F. I used to bring my hose inside inbetween uses in the winter. Big hassle, big wet, snowy hose! Now I just drain it well and leave in on the ground between the tap (unhooked of course) and the trough I need to fill. I put the ends over a bush or stick them in the fence, etc. so I can find them in the snow! If you drain the hose well you don't need to bring it in. If you don't get it drained well and it gets ice in it, wind it into a feed bucket or water bucket, run cold water over it, let it sit five minutes or so to loosen up the ice. Attach the hose to the tap, turn it on to full flow and blow out the ice. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] They're HERE!
> What a darling! I do think you can deserve to sleep now! Thanks Lorraine & Ferne! I think my sleep bank is almost repaid! :o) Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] No Fish Oil
> A favorite story in my family is the one where my aunt made a nice hot > mustard plaster for the chest of her husband, who had a bad cold. I've had more than one mustard plaster in my life, although I remember my mother putting something between the plaster and our skin. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Icelandics are not THAT different
> i think that many ponies are mishandled that way, icelandic or not. > it's a real problem, esp. for those who end up as kids' mounts. Exactly Vicka! Too many of your "typical" trainers just bully ponies rather than train them. No doubt the reason so many ponies have reputations for bad attitudes, they were never really trained, just forced/bullied into compliance. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Icelandics are not THAT different
I think sometime Icelandics are mis-handled by your average trainer because they think of them as "ponies". They feel they can skip steps, let them sit, miss valuable training time and quickly make up lost time by bullying/forcing them into compliance. Then the novice owner gets them home and has a difficult, scared and/or dangerous horse on their hands. I find trainers that specialize in working with Icelandics and understand what the riders in N.A. need in a trained horse have an advantage over the average trainer. They view the Icelandic as a horse first and don't look at them as little ponies that can be bullied rather than trained. I've found that a good trainer is a rare find and the ones I truly value are coincidently trainers that primarily work with Icelandic Horses. Just My Experience. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Icelandic horses do not go fishing on their own accord!
> Perhaps the salted herring was also about the salt. That is the way I've always looked at it... a fortified salt block! :o) Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic horses do not go fishing on their own accord!
Thanks Judy for bringing Ragnar back! I often wonder how he is these days. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki are HERE! Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic horses do not go fishing on their own accord!
> Actually, though, in this case, I think an argument could be made that > there is nutritional benefit in eating fish. Laree, What I remember hearing was that they filled the barrel with alternating layers of salt and fish. They built a nutritional block (like we use here today) with resources available to them to supply extra nutrition during the long winters. They are a strong people. Learned to survive in a harsh environment with what they had. I have respect for their creative resourcefulness. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] They're HERE!
> The baby is beautiful - right list or no. Thanks Nancy! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki are HERE! Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] They're HERE!
Oh shoot! No wonder it's not showing up on right list. Did I mention it had been a long 60 hours! Sorry! Can I sleep now? Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki are HERE! Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] fish oil
> I give my horses lots of flax but if anyone out there tells me that > cod liver oil is better, I will try it. Remember Cod Live Oil and Fish Oil are not the same. Cod Liver Oil has quite a bit of vitamin A which is toxic in large doses. Fish Oil does not have vitamin A. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Another Charm Video
I've always done the "question mark" exercise with my horses just prior to pulling their tails for the stretching exercise. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Another Charm Video
> How about if you try it? Many moons ago I taught Nanna to tail me by having her pull me to her bowl when I'd bring out her beet pulp mash. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] farm kids having fun on Icys
Wow! That makes me smile! Thanks Denise. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] OT-Parrots
> Parrots are often like many horses--- there are lots of older ones > needing good homes. SO many people will buy a nice parrot because it > talks and its charming, not knowing anything about them, but then get > them home and soon grow weary when they find they are loud and messy. I agree Janice. Please guys if you want a parrot-- find one in need of a new home. IMHO parrots don't belong as pets. We can rarely meet their needs for their entire lives. Nice parrots are always looking for new homes. Please, get a rescue parrot, rather than support the parrot trade. We have 4 parrots, three of them are rescues. A Blue and Gold Macaw A Umbrella Cockatoo A Timeh Grey and a Congo Grey I've also rescued and rehomed several other parrots. I had to make the decision to not take in any more rescue parrots. I haven't taken in a rescue parrot in many many years yet I'm still regularly asked to take them. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] training
I would have a helper on the ground to lead her while you simultaneously give her the move out cue from the saddle until she understands it. Then let the ground person fade away. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Turnout Sheets
> Now, Nancy, remember that's -45C, not F. One degree C is a larger change in actual temperature than one degree F. The two systems have to cross paths at some point and that point is at 40 below, -40°C and -40°F are the same temp. After you get lower than 40° below the same number is colder in Celsius than Fahrenheit, just as above 40° below Celsius is warmer than the same number Fahrenheit. Hope that make some sense. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?
I go into my herd of 16 horses with an arm full of hay, and they better approach with manners or they can leave the dinning area! The hay is mine and off limits until I place it in the feeder. They can fight over the food all the want when I'm outta there but they better behave while I'm in there. While I'm coming back with more food I warn the horses with "watch out" as I approach so they know it's me and don't kick thinking it's another horse approaching. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?
> This photo may give you an idea of the area I want to fence for pasture. It is wonderful Virginia! I wouldn't mow it. The horses will appreciate the winter browse. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?
> haha, like you lightweights up north dont know what REAL bugs are > Janice :) For sure!! LOL I was in Orlando once walking alone. I knew no one was around when I started down the side walk. Yet I started hearing footsteps very close behind me. I was little nervous wondering where this person had appeared from. I picked up the pace then got the courage up to look behind me.. It was a BUG! A bug BIG enough to have audible footsteps! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?
> Saint Philippe, New Brunswick, Canada (about 10-15 minutes > from Moncton) Looks wonderful! You're further north than I am, but the temps off the water may moderate the temperature some. How FUN!! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?
> not putting up fence alleyways or corridors to move from one field to > the other I LOVE my alley way connecting my four paddocks to the winter pasture. Someone told me I should take it out it was a waste of room. No way! The paddocks all open into the alley which also gives a backup enclosure in case a gate gets incorrectly closed, etc. Once I came home from a trip to see the farm sitter couldn't figure out how to latch the gate so had just wrapped the chain around the post! #&@!! I had extra clasps on the end of chains, lead ropes she could have used to tied the gate shut, etc. Needless to say I was thankful my alley was there. Still I hate to leave my horses in the care of others! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures
> In the UK, there's a real difference between laminitis and founder - > is it the same in the USA, or do you use the terms interchangeably? Technically, yes there is a difference in the terms here too. But they are often used interchangeably, especially by laymen. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?/large pastures
> I was looking at one of the fields today. Four horses, total years > between them 111 ! I have a herd here that between the 4 have 104 years! They get pretty much unrestricted grazing. Three of them (mares) come in when the boys go out. The gelding can go out with the boys and chooses to about 1/2 the time. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Should I mow?
Hi Virginia, The new place is going to be so fun for you! Personally I wouldn't mow the pasture. Curious how big is it? I doubt two horses will do any noticeable damage to it. You're likely to only see damage near the gate where they'll exuberantly peel-out throwing a bit of dirt and sod. Once your ground is frozen for the winter they won't do any damage to the ground, likely not even right at the gate. I am guessing you won't be able to move even steel tip electric fence poles once the ground is frozen (unless it's really not all that cold where you'll be). I know it is rare here that we can move a pole after the real freeze hits. The members from the south don't seem to have a grasp of just what real frozen ground is! ;o) Your horses will enjoy the "chew-time" they'll get out on the pasture and it will help keep them from chewing on your board fence, shelter, etc. The roughage they'll get eating the dead grasses will also produce a lot of heat that will keep them warm over the winter. No matter what the weather is they will be happy to go out on the pasture every day! :o) I would only keep them in during very rare dangerously low temperatures. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com PS Where? :o)
Re: [IceHorses] viewing attachments
> Are individual email the only or best way to view them? Only. :o) Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] pics of run in shed
> it fits four geldings, but only one mare. Love it!! LOL Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] gloves?
PS If I were buying them specifically with riding in mind I may even buy a small. I have a little extra room in my mediums. I bought them off the rack locally and don't remember if I got mediums because they were the perfect fit or close enough! :o) Around here it is hard to get good gloves in women's sizes! I always ask if they think men are the only ones doing work! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] gloves?
Hi Nancy, I have the size medium gloves. I am fairly sturdy too, along with my hands! I like that! :o) Each size has a separate listing so they are available in other sizes too. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] gloves?
Normally I wear a leather glove with a pair of cheapo magic gloves as liners. Really works fairly well. Last year after I got a case of frost nip when I went outside for too long, probably without the linersI realized I needed better gloves, that I could put on quick and bought a good pair of cold weather gloves. They are very warm, not too bulky and would probably work well for riding. I got a Golden Eagle Heatlok Glove at the a Work Wear House store. http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Eagle-Mechanics-fleece-lining/dp/B000GDVQJA These look very similar and a pretty good price too! Mine look identical other than what looks like extra padding over the knuckles, but it may just be a slight change in design. If Bill and I could wear the same size I'd buy them by the dozen, better price! I am going to go treat the deerskin and get them ready for the approaching cold, even though it looks like it will be a beautiful sunny 54°F today! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Partial blanketing?
I think if you clip him right away the hair will be grown back enough before it gets really cold to be a problem. I'd just clip a thin strip on each side of the neck along the jugular. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Closed!
Congratulations Virginia! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Home Is Good!
Sylvia, I am glad to hear you and your animals are safe! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Home Is Good!
Glad to hear all is good for you Judy and Kim & Nanna! I know three families who have lost everything, others we still have not been in contact with yet. Hoping those who lost so much heal quickly. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] The Pace
Thanks for the photo Nancy. It doesn't appear as though there will be a suspension phase in this horse's pace as the LF is still on the ground and the RR is just about to hit the ground if it hasn't already. It's always fun to see old photos! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Dog available/IG's
> Cheryl - thank you for the complements on Mush.she > really is a lovely dog. I've always had a soft spot for Chinese Crested dogs! Sadly I don't think one would like it here in our bitter cold! > Bindi is an opossum. That is what I thought! Definitely not your average pet! LOL Cute! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Dog available/IG's
Beautiful Mush! What is Bindi? I had three yorkies and all were very well house broke. I think with toys they are able to go where we don't see and therefore don't realize right away. Like someone said you're going to know a great dane went potty in the house. I find with young dogs they are easily distracted and will often go pee two or three times in a row if given the chance. I never take my youngsters out and bring them right back in after they potty. I give them at least 10 minutes and very often they'll pee at least once again within that time. I truly believe any breed can be house broke, the toys just take extra diligence because their potty spots aren't as readily noticeable! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Teev hit a lick
> My thinking is that people will tell you that a "good" flying > pace should be fast enough to be extremely smooth - thus the > "flying" adjective. I believe the "flying" refers to the suspension phase that there must be present for it to be a "flying" pace rather than pace. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Dog available
> A mix between breeds is a mutt, not a "hybrid." Just different terminology. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Dog available
> BTW, a hybrid is a cross between species, like a mule or a hinny, or > certain parrot crosses (Harlequin parrots, for instance). What you're > describing is simply is mixed breed. Not necessarily. Check with Mr. Webster. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Dog available
To me she looks like the typical hybrid people breed for mushing or dryland sports. Often a hunting or hound and husky cross. Which may explain the blue eyes. Her breeding may be just a coincidence but I think she'd be very happy in a recreational running home! If she were closer.. ;o) Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Dog available
If I didn't already have a couple sled type dogs on the way I'd take her! She looks like a dog that can run! I'll send a post her story to a recreational running dog list if you'd like. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Fires - Judy
> The mobile home ranch across the street from Linda's > ranch is completely gone - 173 mobile homes gone. Wow, how tragic. Everything so many family own gone. I pray that everyone gets out safely and finds safe refuge. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Fun at the creek
Hi Cherie, I would think the set up would work for a goat. The tug line I use has a built-in bungee cord to take the stress off when stopping and starting. We're running in x-back harnesses. You can also get H-back harnesses. You can get either custom made to your measurements so I'm sure you could get one for a goat! I have ordered several custom x-backs and have a couple more to order. The dogs love to get out and go faster than our walking speed! You can see more photos of me and the girls at www.toltallyice.com/DogScootering.html Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] You Tube
> Alex uploaded videos of the horses to You Tube (not sure if I shared > these links before): Wow! What a lucky girl to have her horses in her life! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Cheryl / Old Hard Drive
> Have you tried Geek Squad at Best Buy? They generally > are able to retrieve info from bad hard drives. I've taken it to Geek Squad. They couldn't do anythng. I think I was first in line when they opened a store in the area! :o) My son gave me an idea I've been meaning to try, just need to remember on a weekend when Bill is here and has time to help me give it a whirl! I'm still hoping! Not only are all my photos from my wonderful 100 mile trek into the highlands of Iceland on that hard drive, but also over 800 photos from my hoof course including dissecting an entire hind limb. The hock joint is facsinating. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Beat The Attitude Out of Him
> Did you get the message that I sent off-list about your pictures? Hi Judy, Yes, I did. I think it came while I was away or just before I left (for Vashon Island... beautiful!) for a week. I am still trying to catch up on email from that period! Thank you so much. It was only my inbox that crashed, so I didn't lose any photos this time. I still have my bad hard drive with all my photos in a hermetically sealed package in the hopes that one day I'll be able to revive it! Thanks! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Beat The Attitude Out of Him
> And what about the horse's comfort zone? Everything you mentioned > concerned the rider's comfort zone. When the rider is outside of their comfort zone it typically has negative impact on the horse. Of course we want the horse to be within it's comfort zone too or it's likely to have a negative impact on the rider! :o) Just because that wasn't the subject I was addressing doesn't mean the horse's comfort zone is not an important issue to me. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] my voice
> hey, I left a voice memo in case anyone wants to hear me! Janice you have a beautiful voice! :o) Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Beat The Attitude Out of Him
> Bolting is something that needs to be addressed at the core > of the problem. It's certainly not something I'd advise people > to expand their comfort zone to accept. I agree. I never said people should learn to accept bolting. The point is I don't think it has ever been said the Icelandics "don't" bolt in Iceland. It's just that the typical rider in Iceland probably doesn't panic in the situation. Where as the typical rider of Icelandics in the US is a adult beginner we aren't as likely to ride it out and regain communication. I know lots of long time riders in the US that grew up on horse back and have no problem riding out a bolting horse too. They don't ride Icelandics though. Just an observation in the difference between how a bolt is views by different levels of riders. Nothing more. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Beat The Attitude Out of Him
>> Also, when there were alot of Icelandics with bolting problems several >> years ago, someone said that it was the fault of the riders since >> Icelandics in Iceland don't bolt. This article sort of negates that. > i remember a long time ago, two or three years, I was new to > icelandics and had just got nasi, there was a thread on bolting > and several said horses in iceland bolt but its no problem cause > there are no trees and they just let them run it out. That is exactly what I was thinking Janice. It's not that it is said that horses don't bolt in Iceland but that it isn't seen as such a big deal to the riders in Iceland. I think one difference... many of the riders in Iceland grow up on the back of the horse and a bolting horse doesn't cause the rider fear that it does in the case of the typical adult beginner here. We all have a comfort zone. I think we're all working to enlarge our comfort zone. When we're pushed way outside of our comfort zone we become totally ineffective at controlling the horse, we completely stiffen up and all we can do is grip the reins. We become unable to give and take and try to resume a conversation with the horse. If a bolting horse doesn't push the rider outside of their comfort zone they are much more likely to regain control and have a more pleasant outcome. I think comfort zones are likely the real explanation between how big of an issue we view bolting to be or not. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Autism
Interesting Judy! I don't doubt that diet is behind much of today's ills! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] vaccines
>> IMO, never vaccinated and not vaccinating are worlds apart. > how so, i dont get that cheryl? Never having been vaccinated and giving initial vaccinations yet not following an aggressive booster schedule are completely different to my mind. IMHO we over vaccinate just about everything these days. The number of vaccinations my grandkids are getting compared to what my kids had is staggering! They're not even vaccinations for new disease just a much more aggressive schedule of vaccinations. Why? Money for vaccine manufacturers? Many horses are vaccinated even more frequently than recommended by vaccine manufacturers. If a little is good, is more and more better? Not to my mind when it comes to vaccinations. There is a point that they are likely to start to do more harm than good. What is enough? What is too much? Manufacturers should be required to fund studies for duration of immunity, to answer the above questions. As it is they do a 12 month study, prove immunity lasts for 1 year. Then, so they don't have to fund a 2, 3, 5 or 10 year study (yikes can you just imagine how much that would cost?), let's just slap the immune system with a booster and avoid spending money for studies on the duration of adequate immunity levels. Yeah, owners may spend trying to treat immune disorders, but the manufacturers have pocketed their money and don't care about the immune system disorders you are left to struggle with. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] vaccines
> e-mails from people telling me of others who aren't vaccinating their > Icelandic's for ANYTHING. IMO, never vaccinated and not vaccinating are worlds apart. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Vaccinations
> Many years ago, on the list, we came to the conclusion that it was much > better for the imported horses to have their vaccinations separately and > spread out over a period of time. I believe I was likely the first to suggest less aggressive vaccination schedules, along with the first to promote barefoot and bitless riding (even before this list existed). I've always been on the less harsh side, funny that some (relative newcomers) who don't know me or my history like to place me elsewhere! :o) Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] vaccines
> I recently had a conversation with a Vet who said there are a > number of Vets who would like someone to do more research > about how long vaccines last in horses because they suspect > that many only need to be given several years apart and some > maybe only once a lifetime. The vaccine people aren't really > interested in this research (they make a lot of money with > vaccines) and, he admitted, neither are a number of vets because > the yearly vaccines are often the only time vets get to see a client's > horse! Exactly Cherie! It's not a question of whether vaccines are good or effective. We all know they are important and that they save pain, suffering and lives. The issue is when does the potential benefit of additional vaccines or frequency of vaccination begin to cause disease? Just because something is good doesn't always mean that more is better, or even harmless! I hope one day the duration of immunity will be studied and recommended revaccinate schedules will be due to knowledge of duration of immunity rather than lack of it! Dr. Dodds has raised enough money to begin her rabies challenge study! Yeah! I've donated multiple times and will continue to do so through the completion of her study. Hopefully horses will also benefit from the knowledge gained from her rabies study. I hope every pet owner will consider donating, regularly! http://rabieschallengefund.com/index.html Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] puttin in the rye
> Also, just a word to the wise, seems we have learned the > best grasses for hay are not the best grasses for pasture and vice > versa. not really sure why. Many grasses that make good hay (yield, etc.) don't tolerate grazing. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: young love
> I have heard that donkey mating rituals are VERY > violent. Yes, I understand many owners of jacks will only use AI when using their jacks at stud to avoid injury especially with a mare. Also many jack owners use a muzzle on their jacks during breeding. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Manure
>> Get a "Newer Spreader" and put it back on your pastures. > > Oh, that looks good--I'll have to read the whole site. Do you have one? > V I don't have one. But it's near the top of my want list! My friend had one and they're handy, easy to use and well made. She loved hers. I've can't think of anyone that has had anything but good things to say about them. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses & Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] T-Posts
>> How tall are t-posts? They come in different heights. My fence is 5' so I buy 6-1/2' T-posts. They have a little stablelizer type thing that you pound until it's underground. I think I have a bundle of them not used yet and can get a photo if you'd like. > How deep do they go? Typically 18 inches. > How do you put them in the ground? With a T-Post pounder, $20 to $30. It's a metal tube with one end closed and handles on both sided, and you pound them. > Sounds like a good option since I'm not sure where I want permanent > fields. If you need to move them get a post popper--- get one anyhow, they're a very handy tool to have. Probably around $40. HTH Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Water
> Thanks everyone! I've been numb since the acceptance--I'm excited but > I feel like a zombie...must be the shock! I'm actually going to be > moving to my 'farm' -- wow! It is exciting! > Hubby plans to have the fence posts put in by a professional fence > company, then we can put up the electric (probably get help with that > too). I'm not sure what he plans to do about the run-in -- build one, > buy ready-built, or close in the framed structure already on the > property. Depending on your ground you can also get fence posts that look like a pencil and a tractor with the right attachment can pound them in. No digging, etc. Although the corners will need to be braced or otherwise made stronger to take the stress. > How does everyone get water out to their pastures? If you have to fill a trough from a hose/hydrant, use as small a trough as you can safely use. You want it large enough to reduce the risk of the horses running out of water, yet keep heating costs down, and keep the water from getting yucky before two horses drink it. Run a hose from the hydrant, hopefully it's not too terribly far. Unhook the hose after the trough is full (very important). Don't use more hose than you need, cut it down if necessary. Drain the hose--- pick the end up put it over your shoulder and walk down it moving the hose over your shoulder. Water should be running out when you get to the other end, if it isn't you've lost the flow do it again. Drape at least one end of the hose over something--- a bush, fence, etc. so you can find the hose again in the snow. Draining the hose and leaving it out under the snow will save you a ton of work until you can get a water line trenched in to your paddock. If your hose gets frozen get a large feed tub/bucket, coil the hose into the bucket at the water tap, fill the bucket/tub with waterer, let it sit about 5 minutes then hook the hose up to the tap and turn on the water full flow, it will blow the ice out of the hose. Drain better next time. Cold here?? What makes you think that! LOL Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Manure was: For Virginia - Run in
> Where do you all put your manure? > > I would like to compost. Get a "Newer Spreader" and put it back on your pastures. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Water in Winter
> I was amazed at how much my power bill went down after switching from one > 100 gallon heated water trough to 3 two-hole automatic heated waterers. Oops make that 2 two-hole auto waterers! They have one water hole on each side of the fence so the 2 waterers provide water to 4 paddocks/pastures. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Small barn
> It looks like a wonderful well-built wooden barn, but there are a couple > of > things that don't look safe to me. Remember that I used to buy off-track > Thoroughbreds. This is probably perfectly safe for the calmer Icelandics, > but I'd make the walls higher and those vertical boards with the sort of > picket type tops would be a recipe for disaster for some horses. Keep in mind the day may come where you decide/need to sell and chances are the buyer will have horses other than Icelandics. I wouldn't build a barn suited only to Icelandics. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden
Congratulations Virginia! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: E-Z Ride Stirrups
> I'm not sure if they come in different footbed sizes, but > I know they come in different "neck" sizes. The neck is the area > where the stirrup attaches to. You want to try to get the neck as > close to your stirrup strap leathers as possible. For example - I > think western style fenders have a thicker "leather" than english > style stirrup leathers. I believe you can also change the "neck" size by buying a different size spacer for a couple of bucks. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
> She was knocked unconscious the moment she hit the ground, she was > like a rag doll being dragged along. Well won't help in that case, but still a tidbit of potentially useful info I like to share when the topic of being dragged comes up. Maybe one day it will help someone who isn't knocked out in the fall. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
I like my caged easy EZ Ride Stirrups for saddles without a "release". > BTW...speaking of dragging, my absolute favorite vet in the world was > out riding a month ago, and her horse spooked and her foot slipped > through her western stirrup and she was dragged for at least 10 > minutes before they were able to stop her horse. She's staying at a > friends house while she recuperates. Both hands are broken, both > legs...and almost everything else has a cut or a ding. She's going > into surgery again in a few weeks. They say luckily I've never had to try it or see if it even came to me in a moment of need but if you're being dragged you're supposed to try to roll over on your belly giving your foot a chance to slip free from the stirrup. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com
