Re: [IceHorses] Playing with Snorri
On 7/8/08, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or u could just use crime scene tape. don't you have some of that laying around karen? ar ar ar janice I think it is crime scene tape:) Really, I think it says police line, don't cross. The owner of the farm has started a local mounted patrol group and it making obstacles to work on desensitization, they have large plastic soda bottles screwedo onto the ends, I guess that shows up in the video. Kim
[IceHorses] Playing with Snorri
Don't seem to have much time for playing on the net or with the cameras anymore, but I found a moment this morning, and took Snorri through this little obstacle. He did pretty good. He was a little scared at first, wasn't sure about this thing. I was trying to get the first pass videotaped, but the camera wasn't ready. This was the second pass, Snorri is a good boy. I've been on him, maybe 5 times now, just really short periods, had a friend lead me in the pasture on him for a good stretch, and Snorri always stays friendly and comes back for more attention. He is 4 this summer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP3ptVf59Fg Kim Morton (Kentucky)
Re: [IceHorses] High Tensile Fencing
On 5/19/08, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Karen I just saw my 3rd degloving injury last night from a high tensile steel fence - one of Sarah's beloved Lipizzaner mares that was imported from the Spanish Riding School. So what kind of fence is safe? I've heard of this kind of injury before. Right before I moved the horses about a year ago, they were in this kind of fence, two horses were standing by the fence in another field and were killed by lightening. I think that maybe the lightening traveled the fence and got them. We know barbed wire isn't good, I kept my horses at a rental house with some barbed wire, I just didn't have the money to fix someone else's fence and the mule got a bad cut, but a lucky one, where it just got flesh and she healed fine. I would think that electric tape is safer, as long as it's kept up, kept tight, and the electric doesn't go out. Mine will tear the thing down if the current goes out, then they could get tangled. Mesh isn't so good, if it's big enough to put a foot through. It seems to me that no fence is totally safe, but hopefully the possible injuries won't be that bad. I don't even think a vinyl fence would be good for my guys, the mules are nuts and would probably break it and get out, in fact Snorri jumped through one once, when he was really young. So they don't get hurt by the fence, but they might end up out in the road. What I intend to do with the terrible fence mine are in now, not really good in some spots, is put up electric tape on the inside to keep them off the fence, but I like that there is a real fence behind the tape, in case the current does go out. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Price of Auction Horses
On 5/11/08, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I understand that right? The rescue agency WANTS them to breed the mare? Or was this a private rescue, not from one of the agencies? I'm not totally sure what their set-up is. I think they are just a private rescue, but yes they want her to breed the mare, actually they would do the breeding, but want a couple of colts out of this mare. Even the adopter thinks this is stupid and doesn't want to do it, but she really liked the mare. I just don't know what they could be thinking. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Price of Auction Horses
On 5/9/08, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a story that may give us an idea of the price of meat at auction: I just heard that someone around here had to PAY $30 per horse to get rid of the horses, he had to pay the auction fee and nobody bought them, he left them. So they will take them around to auctions until they are sold. What really makes me mad is that the rescue people my friend just got a horse from are going to try and make her get a couple colts out of the mare, they are novice horse people, I just don't know what they could be thinking, even if it will be a registered horse. It's hitting pretty hard around here. The Kentucky Horse Counsel has a program to help people with hay, people can donate hay for a tax break, and they will give it to people who are having a hard time feeding their horses. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Icelandic horse in Oregon, save from meat market!!!
Someone with $1000 can take her and resell her to a nice home if they'd like for more I'm sure! I know in the north east coast you can't touch a decent horse for less than $1000. Just to be realistic, some horses in Kentucky are selling for $50 at auction, good horses. I know someone who just got a very nice looking, registered, Kentucky Moutain Mare, free from a rescue, complete with issues and everything:) Actually, $1000 is a lot to pay to get to do the work it takes to deal with these issues, it's no bargain. Hey, at least the Ky Mountain people gave up the extra horses when they couldn't deal with it, gave the horse to a rescue, and then passed her on, to someone who is now going to have to pay someone to help her with training, and there is no guarantee. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day
On 4/30/08, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nasi has been trained up til now to whoa, go, stand still at the mounting block while I lean over him waving arms around, wiggle the saddle vigorously, slap the stirrups against his side etc. He is fine with all that. just stands there. I have ponied him on two trail rides, he did great. He seems unafraid and not spooky of anything. I just had the same idea yesterday. I've finally gotten my horses in to a situation that is much closer to my house, only a few miles, where I can see them everyday. I am actually amazed at how little I have had to go over things with Snorri, as long as I do it right. I think I ground drove him a couple times, had already taught him to give to real light pressure at that point, not many sessions, so we were having a zen moment yesterday, one where he was really happy with me b/c I came to his rescue when he was trying to bite and itchy spot on his butt. I have recently leaned over his back a couple times, but not all the way on. So in this zen moment, I put a sidepull on him, and jumped on bareback. He stood real nice, then he took a few steps, figuring out his balance, also stopped on a really light touch, very nicely. I did this three times. Maybe two minutes each. The last one, I tapped his butt, and he did a turn on the forehand, which was also rewarded, we will get the signals straight for forward and engaging the hindquarters. So it was great. I also have lost 40 lbs over the last several months, partially because I thought I would be too heavy for him at that point. I think he can handle it now, just for a little walking. Lately I feel I have awakened in some aspects of how to get the best out of the horse, like really seeing how our energy affects the energy of the horse, etc. I think my point is that riding a horse for the first time does not have to be a dangerous, dramatic affair, it really isn't if you are in tuneI'll get a video of the next time, now I have a video helper. Kim M. (in Kentucky)
Re: [IceHorses] Zen Moments
In response to pressure. I have been experiementing with that too. I've worked with maybe, really 10 horses and mules in the last couple weeks. My friend has just adopted 4 mules, 2 very shy, two still can't be touched since they arrived. I haven't had time to work on it. Also another adopted rescue horse, who has some issues, and my own 5. What are we talking about when we say pressure? Actual physical pressure, energy pressure? I think most physical pressure is too much to begin with. I am finding that horses, even ones I don't know, understand it much better when I invite them to do something. Ask them with hand movements to move their heads towards me, or move their hindquarters away, not even touching them. We have to give them a chance, they are naturally so light, I mean I am really seeing this. I am really seeing how putting physical pressure on them really makes them tense and more difficult to maneuver around after that. For instance, if you grab a horse's leg to ask them to pick it up, try to wrangle it up, it's just making the horse that way. If I just lightly touch them, not grab, they naturally tend to pick it up, maybe not to the extent I want at first, but they try. Gotta go to bed. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Wine, Full Moon, Nose Rings
On 12/23/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wine... sometimes I wish I drank. It's a full moon... do you suppose sometimes it negatively affects us? Does anyone here have a nose ring? I've been so distracted by my life, but this caught my attention...wine is good sometimes, maybe I should take some to my friend's Christmas dinnerThe full moon, I do think it can affect us, I'm not sure it has to be negative though, I love the full moon, the sky was very bright here last night, very cold with wind blowing. Nose ring, no, not me, not against it, I think it would be annoying though, and honestly not so good for my profession in this small town, sort of conservativeif I were to do anything like that, it would have to be less apparent:) Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Charm's First Ride
On 12/23/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is Charm's first official ride: That looks good, it makes me think maybe I should recruit an Amish child to get on Snorri while I lead him aroundam in the middle of losing weight so that I can ride Snorri next years, about 22lbs so far, I would like to lose 35 more.I'm sticking to it! He's going to be a fun little guy, he is very calm like Charm, very cooperative and sweet. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] holiday mule and dogs
On 12/24/07, Bia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maria, she is fine around my dogs... but my dogs are very aware...I had a heeler here for awhile and that dog must have gotten kicked 100 times because he kept going for the ankles! Bia Actually there is a blue heeler where my mules are now, apparently they don't mind her, she is still alive! and she does go into the pasture. I have seen my mules chase dogs though Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Two Rescue Icelandics Available
On 11/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/14/2007 7:02:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) How old is the mare anyway? I am afraid to take a walking vet bill, you have her son so you should know how old this mare is from his papers. They said she needs a pasture. I am dry lot but only have one gelding, San Diego area. What do you know about this mare? Sylvia I really don't know much about her, except that I met her and have had her offspring for 13 years. Her papers say she was born in 1989, so is that about 18 years old..., it's not terribly old for a pony. Maybe the rescue people know more about the specifics. I saw her, probably 1995 or 1996, she must have been pretty young then. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Two Rescue Icelandics Available
On 11/14/07, Kimberly Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Von is Dari's dam. I feel terrible about this. I wish I could take her, but I'm having to board my 5 horses out and it's stretching me. Dari is just the best little horse I could wish for. In fact, I met Von before, probably about 12 years ago, she was out at Elizabeth Haug's place. She was pretty wary of people at that time. Dari is probably the most trustworthy horse I've ever met, she must have passed some of that onto him. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] OT-Parrots
On 11/13/07, IceDog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO parrots don't belong as pets. We can rarely meet their needs for their entire lives. Nice parrots are always looking for new homes. They aren't the easiest pets, I really don't encourage people. I've had my Grey for 17 years now, since he was 3 months old. He is very intelligent, sensitive, entertaining...I've also taken some pretty hard bites, attacks from him, I have the scars to prove it, I was really surprised he didn't sever the ligament in the palm of my hand once, we went through a couple of bad years, he hasn't really bitten me for some time now, but you never know. They are wild animals, and they never stop being wild, even if they are gentled. I raised him and can handle him all over, have been able to hold him on his back in my hand, but still something comes out in them sometimes and they require a lot of intensive care, I cook for mine:) Kim
Re: [IceHorses] OT-my church
On 11/8/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just thought you guys might like to see the type church I attend. If you need any spiritual advisement, I am available. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYaEIbn_zik I am going to guess this guy is not married:) Kim
Re: [IceHorses] KY Foliage
On 10/29/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a beautiful part of the country, and the leaves were just awesome. It is beautiful here, you ought to stop by next time you're in this part of the country. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] KY Foliage
On 10/30/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is beautiful here, you ought to stop by next time you're in this part of the country. You're right, Kim, we should. How far are you from say, Lexington, and which direction? I think you know where Anneliese is, right? I'm about an hour outside Lexington, the other way, sort of north east, one hour south of Cincinatti, Ohio. A little out of the way from the main route, but Maysville and Old Washington are beautiful little old towns on the river. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] African photos
On 10/25/07, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just a bit to get you started, the first photo is of me and a friend Helen and and our two guides in 1977. The next is Lanet the guide on the left thirty years later. Helen is Chinese and they thought we were sisters, couldn't tell the difference. The last is my husband as a white Maasai. These photos were from January this year/ Africa is amazing isn't it, I spent a month there in 1987, Egypt, Ethiopia, and Kenya, I would love to go back. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Fires - Judy
On 10/23/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its scarey in a disaster because altho the world has all sorts of helpful info, when you are in the disaster you are in a bubble cut off from everything, no tv, no satellite, no cell phones. So often you dont even really know how bad it is til its over! I've been in contact with a friend in Idyllwyld, I think she is ok where she is, but has no electricity, maybe it will be repaired by 7 tonight. She says she has been sitting in the dark all night, with her wolf by the door and her iguana in bed with her for heat, she says it's cold up there on top of the mountain. Very nerve wracking, even for those not exactly in the path, you never know where the fire will spread to next. I remember the 94 earthquake in LA, I was on the far end of the county, but for a minute I thought my little house was going to come down on me. I was shocked when the news went on, I'll never forget it, a newscaster came on the air, not really ready for tv, all shaken, and then when the pictures started to come in, the collapsed freeways, it was crazy, and the people in the middle of it didn't even realize everything that was going on until later. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Teev hit a lick
On 10/21/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dropping out of his canter into what I think can only be a true rack. Janice, something similar happened with Dari, years agoI had just been riding him, maybe 6 months. We went out with a running quarter horse and were just turning around on the trail to go home, a long flat stretch with hard dirt, we decided to canter that stretch and he was getting competative with the mare, I was trying to hold him back a little, and then he just let go, stretched out, and went flying, totally smooth, I swear I think he was pacing, he totally passed her up as she was doing a good paced canter, it was awsome. He never did it again. This is my foxtrotting Icelandic. So, it can happen. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] State of Emergency in CA
On 10/22/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not much internet service and some cell phone service is down. I think I just heard on the news that Escondido is being evacuated, this sounds like a really bad one. My mother left California after that other really bad fire season a few years ago, maybe it was in 2003. She had just sold her house and it all got held up because after the fires the had to go and actually check each and every house in escrow to make sure it hadn't burned down. Kim
