Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ridden with a horse that survived EPM. One cheek was way sunk in. The owner said the oly time it affected him was he had trouble going up or down steep hills, I cant remember which, that he had to take it real slow on hills. Janice Janice, Magic has the left hind area sunk in. As far as riding him, he seems just fine so far. I was supposed to trailer him up 40 minles north of me to meet the vet and have her draw the blood for the EPM test today, but last night I had a message on my phone that she would have to cancel because of a death in the family and wouldn't be available until next week... I'll be glad to get over the wondering and waiting... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
Do you have the address of Dr. Joyce Harman's site, or should I just Google her? I Not Robyn, but - http://www.harmonyequine.com/ -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley I ride ponies because heart is not measured in hands. - Steve Edwards
RE: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
Not Robyn, but - http://www.harmonyequine.com/ Thanks for posting Joyce Harmon's website for Ferne, Laree - I am in the middle of a companion animal training here and haven't had time to find it. Robyn
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not Robyn, but - http://www.harmonyequine.com/ Thanks for posting Joyce Harmon's website for Ferne, Laree - I am in the middle of a companion animal training here and haven't had time to find it. Robyn Thanks everyone for all the help. I will check the website soon as I turn the horses out and then I'll call my vet and talk over this stuff with her... Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
I have ridden with a horse that survived EPM. One cheek was way sunk in. The owner said the oly time it affected him was he had trouble going up or down steep hills, I cant remember which, that he had to take it real slow on hills. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
Has anyone had any experiences with EPM? Magic has had this muscle wasting on his left hind for awhile and I thought either one of the other horses kicked him or he ran into a post or something. snip if I had thought about testing Magic for EPM. I read up on it on The Horse and also saw there were lots of pros and cons on the tests for it, such as false positives and false negatives, so don't quite know what to do at this point. Anybody got any good ideas? Ferne Fedeli Hi Ferne I checked on AAEP site but I don't belong so have limited access. The places I could go weren't very helpful - except that muscle wasting of the the large muscles of the hip(s) can be a symptom. I don't know enough about it to be helpful - but all tests have some false negs/false positives - and generally are still worth running under the right circumstances. Sounds like Magic needs a thorough neuro exam, poor dude. Penny
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ferne I checked on AAEP site but I don't belong so have limited access. The places I could go weren't very helpful - except that muscle wasting of the the large muscles of the hip(s) can be a symptom. I don't know enough about it to be helpful - but all tests have some false negs/false positives - and generally are still worth running under the right circumstances. Sounds like Magic needs a thorough neuro exam, poor dude. Penny Hi Penny, Well, the main place I looked was at The Horse, which is an AAEP site. In fact my vet told me that was a good place to look. I've subscribed for years and their info is often quite useful. I suppose I should go ahead and have the test or tests as the alternative is not too promising. One article said that they can have it for years with very few symptoms and then suddenly get much worse. I'm still riding him, although lightly. I keep worrying that he will suddenly collapse and I'll get hurt yet again!?! Ferne
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Hi Ferne I suppose I should go ahead and have the test or tests as the alternative is not too promising. One article said that they can have it for years with very few symptoms and then suddenly get much worse. I'm still riding him, although lightly. I keep worrying that he will suddenly collapse and I'll get hurt yet again!?! Have you considered talking to a vet that uses complementary modalities as well as an allopathic approach? Dr. Joyce Harman likely has some suggestions and someone recently posted her website about vaccinations? She does a lot of work with EPM horses. I also think that ABC Products has some supportive products. We also have a protocol to do once he is treated - should it be confirmed - that help with the repatterning of the nervous system. Robyn
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
well as an allopathic approach? Dr. Joyce Harman likely has some suggestions and someone recently posted her website about vaccinations? She does a lot of work with EPM horses. I also think that ABC Products has some supportive products. We also have a protocol to do once he is treated - should it be confirmed - that help with the repatterning of the nervous system. Hi Robyn, Thanks for the suggestions. I sort of doubt if we have a vet that uses any alternative approaches around here. Do you have the address of Dr. Joyce Harman's site, or should I just Google her? I was just talking to Barbara Chasteen about the ABC products, but hadn't bought any yet. Have you had any experience with EPSM? I noticed that it said don't use Oat Hay and we did just change to Oat Hay this winter, because a local farmer we know had some at a great price... We mix some Oat with some grass hay, but Magic loves the Oat and hasn't been eating all his grass hay half the time. There are always so many confusing things to think about!!! Ferne
[IceHorses] Fwd: EPM?
For some reason, this didn't make it to the list the first time... -- Forwarded message -- From: Ferne Fedeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:44 AM Subject: EPM? To: icehorses@yahoogroups.com Has anyone had any experiences with EPM? Magic has had this muscle wasting on his left hind for awhile and I thought either one of the other horses kicked him or he ran into a post or something. He's had a couple of sessions with Barbara Chasteen, who does bodywork and she thought the same thing. When the vet was here for the horses shots a couple of weeks ago, she said it also could possibly be EPM, as muscle wasting is one of the signs. She called me back yesterday about my old Arab, who has Ringbone (another story) and asked if I had thought about testing Magic for EPM. I read up on it on The Horse and also saw there were lots of pros and cons on the tests for it, such as false positives and false negatives, so don't quite know what to do at this point. Anybody got any good ideas? Ferne Fedeli
