[fsug-tvm] Re: Natty Aptoncd package on Karmic

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using aptoncd is only possible if both r running d same ubuntu
version.. BTW 9.10 has long been dead.. at least upgrade to 10.04..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: fsug-tvm.org WIP beta site

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great.. power of drupal.. i heard that zyxware was working on a site
for fsug-tvm.. is this it..

who will be responsible for maintaining the site..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Next meet

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the accepted meeting day is the 2nd saturday of every month.. we were
having regular meeting but it got discontinued.. the main reason was
no new people were attending.. we had 5-6 people who were regular.. we
hav got to know each other so well that we can just call each other..
so no need 4 a formal meeting..

if sufficient amount of people r interested we can meet nxt 2nd
saturday..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Ubuntu 10.10 on HP laptop G62 - B45

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murali... i had some issues with ubuntu 10.10.. so i stayed with
ubuntu 10.04.. i would suggest u try ubuntu 10.04.. it is an lts(long
term support) release n now it has released the 2nd service pack to
the lts release.. it won't have these issues.. non lts releases r for
people who want to stay on the bleeding edge of development..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Advice on purchase of new netbook/ tablet

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if u want an experience that is similar to that being offered by ur
maemo, i would suggest u go for an android os.. it offers a really
polished n professional experience and brings with it all the benefits
of an opensource system.

first decide whether u want a tablet or a netbook.. tablet:android,
netbook:ubuntu.

it's hard to install android onto a device since it is intended to be
preloaded with a device n not installed later.

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Drupal : Submenu appears only after loading page of main menu.

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hello anish.. i started learning drupal exactly 5 days back. impressed
by the ease with which we can create even complex websites. n the best
thing of all no need to write even a single line of code:)

our colg decided that from now on a webteam comprising of students
from our colg will be responsible for administering our colg website.
till now being maintained by an external agency. N i m also part of
the team. care to give any tips..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: : Ubuntu plans to replace X-server with Wayland server

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the main problem canonical is going to face is getting graphics card
vendors to support wayland display server.. the graphics card drivers
need to be rewritten to support wayland. nvidia publicly said that
they have no plans to release drivers supporting wayland.. if all
distros take up wayland, we will have more weight behind our demand..

shuttleworth announced the adoption early because he wants wayland to
be really baked for the 12.04 lts.. it will take that much time for
the drivers n apps to start using its potential to the fullest..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: : Ubuntu plans to replace X-server with Wayland server

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I support canonical on their bold move.. i think someone needs to take
some bold steps to make linux better..

google with android showed that great things happen when someone
stands strong behind a project n takes bold moves.. i hope ubuntu
takes linux to the whole world..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: [X-Post] Guest account in Ubuntu 10.04

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SCT College of engg, Pappanamcode..

The response from the authorities was good when we(i & sooraj kennoth)
went to give invitation to attend the Koha training program at Barton
Hill.. we discussed this matter too with the principal and he asked me
to get in touch with the computing facility head.. i am going to meet
him tomorrow.. hope all goes well..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: [X-Post] Guest account in Ubuntu 10.04

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karthik, i have a request to u.. pls keep updating this thread or ur
blog with the details of implementing centralised login at ur clg.. my
colg(and i think most) is also considering implementing similar
technologies.. the hard fact here is that my colg is considering
buying MS AD.. maybe we can put pressure on them to consider ur
alternative..

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have some questions..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT]Require help in spreading awareness among School Students

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u r welcome to attend the next fsug meeting.. the meeting is on on
every 2nd sat at 3pm.. u could give us a small talk about what u r
planning to do..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Monthly Meeting

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this month's meeting was conducted at INSIGHT office, vellayambalam..
the meeting started at 3pm.. about 20 people attended the today's
meeting..

visually challenged people at insight also attended our meeting.. they
shared their experiences of using linux.. many of them had shifted
from jaws on windows to orca on linux.. they taught us a big lesson
today.. 'we use technology to improve d comfort of our life while they
use technology to live'.. we had a discussion about the state of
accessibility on linux n what we can do to improve them..

next we moved on to our talk on arduino.. dhananjay did a great
presentation on the basics of arduino.. he did a small demo of its
working.. the talk slowly turned into an open discussion n gokul das,
pratap n sooraj we soon burning the floor..

nikhil who is working for microsoft attended our meeting.. he shared
his experiences n told us a secret to get a job at microsoft(that i
won't disclose here)..

all together this month's meeting was a great success with more people
attending n from different backgrounds..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Monthly Meeting

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the agenda for d meeting is finalized..
meeting will start at 3pm. venue will be INSIGHT office Elankom
gardens near Vellayambalam.

the topics we r taking up today are:
*Microcontroller programming with arduino. this will the main
discussion topic for this month.. we have allotted a 1hr time to this
talk..
*then there will be a basic discussion.. we have not received
suggestions on which topic to take up here.. we r planning to take up
d topic requested by the people attending the meeting..

i think that's all.. see u there..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Monthly Meeting

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our advanced topic for discussion this month is fixed.. it is
Microcontroller Programming with Arduino.. dhananjay has volunteered
to give a small talk on the topic..

as for the time.. the meeting starts at 3pm.. i hope members will be
punctual..

@mahesh.. don't u think that should be treated as an advanced topic..
we already hav one advanced topic scheduled.. nevertheless, we shall
try to squeeze ur topic in.. mayb lets decide it there..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Monthly Meeting

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maybe u suggest one adhin.. or let the people coming there ask
anything they want.. we can take it..

dhananjay, ur Microcontroller Programming with Arduino class is fixed
on that day.. prepare a speech for lets say 30 min..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Monthly Meeting

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dhananjay, Microcontroller Programming with Arduino is a good topic..
+1 for that..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: LINUX OS Internet Cafe Managing

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i recommend going with ubuntu 10.04.. 10.04 it is a long term support
release.. that means it will have updates for a longer term and u will
have less upgrades.. and the most important reason, it is the most
newbie friendly distro..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: COMPLETELY RE-MASTERABLE Ubuntu 10.04 - modified (remastered) and added with ALL Latest Updates and patches, JUST ENOUGH Codecs, Apps and Utils WITHOUT BEING OVERLOADED [unlike Ubuntu

[prakreet]

@Narendra Sisodiya... we are using keryx and aptoncd to prepare the
addon dvd.. they are very mature projects.. if u want to know how we r
creating the dvd, visit this link.. 
http://keryxproject.org/forums/index.php?topic=19#trackback_url_225

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[fsug-tvm] Re: COMPLETELY RE-MASTERABLE Ubuntu 10.04 - modified (remastered) and added with ALL Latest Updates and patches, JUST ENOUGH Codecs, Apps and Utils WITHOUT BEING OVERLOADED [unlike Ubuntu

[prakreet]

anto.. what u r doing in short is creating another distro.. what we r
doing is creating a custom repo dvd which contains not only packages
but manuals and other hand picked stuff which lets the user experience
"ubuntu".. the addon dvd as i call it comes handy when installing
ubuntu on a friends comp, installing ubuntu in schools..

we r just installing software on an ubuntu system n not changing
anything.. all the software we install is from the official ubuntu
repos only.. so if he has an internet connection the update manager
will update the packages we install..

if u r talking about how to update ubuntu with no internet connection,
there is a great app called "keryx".. we r including the app in our
dvd.. we r also supporting the development of the app in every way we
can..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Using Ubuntu Repository dvds

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Launch Synaptic.
Select "Settings->Repositories" from the menus.
Select the "Other Software" tab.
If you already have any "CD" repositories listed, you might want to
"remove" them now to reduce the confusion.
Select "Add CD-ROM".
You should get a dialog asking you to mount the CD. DO NOT mount the
ISO before you reach this step because
Synaptic has a quirk which will cause it to dismount the image if it
is already mounted.
Launch GMOUNT-ISO.
Point it at the ISO that you have..
select "cdrom0" as the mount point.
Synaptic only supports cdrom0, so if you have a real CD or DVD mounted
you'll need to dismount it before mounting the ISO so that cdrom0 is
not in use.
Select "Mount". The ISO should now be mounted and appear on the
desktop as "cdrom".

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[fsug-tvm] Re: MAKE UP INTERNET CONNECTION USING UBUNTU

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1. plug the network cable in..
2. use firefox to browse the web..

pls be specific if u want to get answers.. is it a broadband
connection, do u connect to internet without a username n password,
etc..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Using Ubuntu Repository dvds

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Launch Synaptic.
Select "Settings->Repositories" from the menus.
Select the "Other Software" tab.
If you already have any "CD" repositories listed, you might want to
"remove" them now to reduce the confusion.
Select "Add CD-ROM".
You should get a dialog asking you to mount the CD. DO NOT mount the
ISO before you reach this step because
Synaptic has a quirk which will cause it to dismount the image if it
is already mounted.
Launch GMOUNT-ISO.
Point it at the ISO that you have..
select "cdrom0" as the mount point.
Synaptic only supports cdrom0, so if you have a real CD or DVD mounted
you'll need to dismount it before mounting the ISO so that cdrom0 is
not in use.
Select "Mount". The ISO should now be mounted and appear on the
desktop as "cdrom".

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[fsug-tvm] Re: COMPLETELY RE-MASTERABLE Ubuntu 10.04 - modified (remastered) and added with ALL Latest Updates and patches, JUST ENOUGH Codecs, Apps and Utils WITHOUT BEING OVERLOADED [unlike Ubuntu

[prakreet]

Anto.. i & sooraj kennoth is also working on a similar project like
this one.. but our project aims to create a dvd which has all the
software's commonly used by users.. think of it as a custom repo dvd..

the entire ubuntu repository is 8 dvds.. but the users only use a
small fraction of the software available in repos.. we found that all
the software they need would easily fit on one dvd.. we would release
a new version of the dvd every 6 months.. ie, a new dvd for every
ubuntu release..

i think that this is a better way than remastering ubuntu since:
* it is easier to continue developing..
* the user has the choice to choose what he wants..
* we r promoting the original brand ubuntu n there r significant
benefits on doing that..
* the dvd will contain additional items like ubuntu manual,
screencasts, etc to make a new users feel at home in ubuntu..
* N the best thing is that users can download the dvd image, n use the
image to install softwares.. no need to burn dvds for that..


main packages currently in the dvd..
full kde desktop environment, codecs, vlc player, gimp, ubuntu-edu-
primary, ubuntu-edu-preschool, ubuntu-edu-tertiary, ubuntu-edu-
secondary, adobe-flash, startup manager, deluge, avant window
navigator, various development environments, supertux, supertuxkart, n
much more...

even then the dvd image is only 2 gb..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Bsnl auto redirect!

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this is an ad by bsnl urging u to upgrade ur modem firmware n install
another software supplied by them.. it is a legitimate site.. as a
matter of fact both softwares promoted by them would only work with
windows..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: how to play wmv files in linux ?

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vlc doesn't hav the decoder to play the file.. n we can't fix it as it
says..

u have ur solution in mohamed naufal's answer.. go to the link given
by him.. it shows how to play mss2..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: how to play wmv files in linux ?

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@vishnupradeep.. wmv is only a container which can contain videos
compressed under various codecs.. if u want to know which is the codec
used, open the file in vlc n look under codec details. only then will
we be able to suggest a solution..

i am able to play .wmv files in ubuntu with vlc..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Announcement: Monthly Meeting

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tuxpaint website has videos showing how to use tuxpaint.. i think we
can use them.. someone who have used guido van robot pls take it..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Why use Ubuntu , according to Dell

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happy to see that manufactures considers linux as a usable alternative
to windows.. earlier in acer ads which was pre loaded with ubuntu,
they said.. we r giving u a free OS which have limited application
until u install another OS..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Meeting on Saturday June 12th

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Our meeting is all fixed now.. The meeting will be @ Christ Nagar
school, Vellayambalam on June 12.. Time is 3pm..

christ nagar school has invited us to host our meeting at their campus
this time.. 1 or 2 of their teachers will also be attending our
meeting.. they asked us to include a session to introduce the teachers
to the foss sotwares commonly used in school.. d session will
introduce openoffice n tuxpaint n other other relevant softwares..
community members pls volunteer for giving the talk..

we will have power n internet.. we can make the session interactive..
by the response i think more members will be attending the meeting
this time.. all together, a great opportunity to make this the best
meeting we ever had..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Meeting on Saturday June 12th

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Mr.Sooraj kennoth, pls report here.. kandu kittunnavar adutha police
stationil ariyikkuka ennoru notice erakkan pova..:)

pls post the confirmed venue as soon as possible.. if we don't get
christ nagar school, we can just hold the meeting at zyxware,
kesavadasapuram as usual..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: FSUG - Meeting Agenda

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@anish.. the venue is not fixed.

google n firefox says  is an attack site..
wow.. how did this happen..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: [fsug-calicut] Ubuntu Lucid Repository DVDs

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yes u can...

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Free Software migration program - Christ Nagar School

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@ashag.. the meeting will be on 12th.. pls see my reply to ur post..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Christ Nagar meeting

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the venue for the meeting is not fixed.. we have 2 options: christ
nagar school or zyxware, kesavadasapuram.. as soon as the venue is
fixed, a post will be put up.. d meeting date wil not change.. we wil
have a meeting every month on 2nd saturdays..

christ nagar school authorities asked our help to install n train
teachers in i...@school.. we actually planned to conduct that prog along
with our meeting so that we need to organise only one event.. since
its a 2nd saturday, i don't think the teachers agreed.. so the
installation n training prog is going on now..

 we will have our meeting as usual on june 12.. time is 3pm.. if the
installation prog is completed today, then the venue will most
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[fsug-tvm] Re: What is ubuntu restricted extra?

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gee sorry.. silly me..

vysakh, i hav a question for u.. what packages are u trying so hard to
download.. is it vlc media player n codecs to play ur movies..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: What is ubuntu restricted extra?

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ubuntu restricted extras is a software repository containing
proprietary drivers n codecs.. it contains nvidia n ati driver, vlc
media player, etc.. u must enable this repo if u want to install these
softwares..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Harddisk problem...

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ur hard disk has bad clusters.. it cannot be corrected by softwares..
if u format a drive, ubuntu will mark all the clusters which has a
problem n will not write data onto it.. thus u can prevent data
corruption.. it will also check to see if the bad clusters can be
used, thus some bad clusters can be recovered..

unresponsiveness is caused when ubuntu is trying to access data
written on bad clusters.. format ur harddisk drive by drive n
reinstall ubuntu.. u can fix unresponsiveness..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: How to use packages.debian or ubuntu.com?

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i faced ur same situation when i started using linux.. i had a dialup
modem which only worked in windows.. i used to download .deb packages
using my dialup modem from windows which i kept as a dual boot.. then
it would show some dependency.. again i will download that n again one
more dependency pops up.. same situation as urs.. i now has a
broadband connection n an external modem which works in linux..

Now for ur solution.. as u r a new user, i suggest that u don't go for
compiling n installing of packages.. its too hard. stick to .debs..
the link i gave u gives 2 methods to install software's on ubuntu
without internet connection.. i think keryx method will be most ideal
for u..

keryx can run on linux n windows OS.. when u run keryx on ur ubuntu
system it makes a list of what all packages u have on ur computer..
now u can copy keryx on a usb n take it to the cafe n run it there.. u
can use it to download softwares to install on ubuntu.. since it knows
what all packages u have on ur computer, it will download all the
dependencies as well..

try to buy an external modem if u can.. all external modems work with
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[fsug-tvm] Re: Hard ware monitor

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i faced ur same situation when i started using linux.. i had a dialup
modem which only worked in windows.. i used to download .deb packages
using my dialup modem from windows which i kept as a dual boot.. then
it would show some dependency.. again i will download that n again one
more dependency pops up.. same situation as urs.. i now has a
broadband connection n an external modem which works in linux..

Now for ur solution.. as u r a new user, i suggest that u don't go for
compiling n installing of packages.. its too hard. stick to .debs..
the link i gave u gives 2 methods to install software's on ubuntu
without internet connection.. i think keryx method will be most ideal
for u..

keryx can run on linux n windows OS.. when u run keryx on ur ubuntu
system it makes a list of what all packages u have on ur computer..
now u can copy keryx on a usb n take it to the cafe n run it there.. u
can use it to download softwares to install on ubuntu.. since it knows
what all packages u have on ur computer, it will download all the
dependencies as well..

try to buy an external modem if u can.. all external modems work with
linux..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Hard ware monitor

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vyshakh, do u have an internet connection at home.. can u connect to
the internet from linux..

even if u can't connect to internet from linux but has access to a pc
that can connect to the internet then u can update and install
softwares on linux.. no command lines n compiling..  goto.. "https://
help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware"

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[fsug-tvm] Re: INTERNAL DIAL UP MODEM IN UBUNTU

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internal dialup modems don't generally work with linux.. the makers of
the modem only writes drivers for windows.. so with the drivers
windows knows how to deal with them.. an opensource developer cannot
write the driver since the specification describing how the modems
work is not published.. the sum total of all this is that linux is
very bad at dealing with internal modems..

some opensource developers have reverse engineered the drivers and has
actually written drivers for internal modems so that they can work in
linux.. but they will be buggy n will not work 100%.. if u want to
know more goto.. "http://linmodems.org/";.. prepare to get ur hands
dirty once u dive in..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Hard ware monitor

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vyshakh, do u have an internet connection at home.. can u connect to
the internet from linux..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Correction required!

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Everybody has their own style of explaining things. N u gave ur own
explanation about what linux n a kernel is. that's all.. a small
glitch i spotted is many newbies think linux is the name of an OS.. if
u could change the 1st line to say:

Linux is an Operating System like Windows or Mac.. Actually linux is
the name of the kernel in the system..

the rest u said it best..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Correction required!

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i don't think there are any problems there. everybody has their own
style of explaining things. N u gave ur own explanation about what
linux n a kernel is. that's all..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Resolution Problem

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i didn't experience the problem u said.. i checked the site from
ubuntu 10.04 in firefox 3.6.3.. giv ur details like ur resolution,
browser used n elaborate what problem u faced..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: fsug monthly meeting on June 12.. pls suggest a venue..

[prakreet]

prasad sr, did u send the softcopy u posted to the school
authorities.. if u haven't pls make edits to it n send it.. we need
their answer before we can plan anything else..

@adhin d.. this suggestion came up when planning our meeting day.. but
most people would want to rest on sundays n will be reluctant to
come.. so it was kept on 2nd saturdays..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Mouse get stucked

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vyshakh, y r u still on ubuntu 9.10.. upgrade to ubuntu 10.04.. 10.04
is a long term support release.. that means it will have lesser bugs
and lesser annoyances n it is far more stable thatn 9.10.. as a casual
user i suggest that u stick to LTS releases.. u can get ubuntu 10.04
cds at zyxware.. i have prepared a packages file for installation on
computers with no internet connection.. it is available at zyxware or
u can download it.. search the previous posts for a link.. just
install ubuntu 10.04 n the packages file.. u will get all codecs n all
things u will most often require.. no hunting for packages n u will be
ready to go in under 30 min..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: fsug monthly meeting on June 12.. pls suggest a venue..

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@prasad sr.. we r only planning to conduct this month's meeting at
christ nagar, vellayambalam.. zyxware is our permanent venue..:) it
wil be a change n since they had asked for our help to install linux
on their sytems, we thought we could complete that at the same time..
mutual benefit of both.. so just say if they r opening their comp lab
to us that day, we would be glad to do the installation n introduce
linux to them.. if that is not possible there's no point in going all
that distance when we have zyxware so near..

@vishnu jyothi.. they have already asked our help.. we go there n
demonstrate that better education softwares r available on linux n
students wil be benefited.. demonstrate gcompris, tuxpaint, marble, dr
geo, etc.. mayb we could convince them to dual boot with linux..
that's the plan..

@aashik salahudeen.. i think their comp lab has power..:) we used to
hold our meetings at zyxware, kesavadasapuram.. there also we had
power n internet.. well equipped..

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[fsug-tvm] fsug monthly meeting on June 12.. pls suggest a venue..

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We had planned during the ubuntu release party to conduct a monthly
meeting of fsug on second saturdays.. Guys, thus the next meeting is
on June 12.. Time is 3pm as usual..

we had an opinion that we could conduct the meeting at a different
venue this time.. i think christ nagar school as venue of this month's
meeting would be great.. they had asked our help to install linux and
also give an intro to teachers on how to use linux.. if they could
open up their computer lab to us that day, we could have our meeting
as usual n also finish the installation at the same time.. if some of
their teachers are present that day we could also introduce linux to
them.. all in one go.. what say guys..

if this venue has to be arranged someone would have to talk with the
school authorities.. aashik n prasad sr had gone to the school n
talked with the teachers there.. so can u present this proposal to the
school authorities n post their reply here..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: UBUNTU and HARD DISK ERROR

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subin, the possibilities here are...

* the cd u put may not be working.. verify it on another comp..
* ur cd drive is not working..
* or ur bios is corrupt.. this is highly unlikely though..

as i had said.. if u have given cd drive as ur 1st boot priority..
bios will 1st check if it can boot from the there.. if it can it will
boot from there.. if not it will go and look at the next priority..
that's how it works..

grub is installed on ur harddisk.. bios will boot from harddisk only
if above priorities are not available.. so a command like "stop
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[fsug-tvm] Re: UBUNTU and HARD DISK ERROR

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subin, even if grub is installed, u should be able to boot from a cd..
change ur boot device priority from the bios.. make boot from cd as ur
1st priority.. then boot from harddisk.. then if u have a cd in the
drive when the comp is booting, bios will boot from the cd and not
from the hard disk..

after booting up from a live cd, save ur files to a pendrive..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: query regarding malayalam fonts

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sreenath just install the padma extension as u would install any other
addon on firefox.. it wil solve ur problem of displaying the page..
then if u want to install malayalam fonts.. download the font u want..
double click the font.. u will get an option to install it in the
preview window.. can u get simpler than this..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Nautilus issues

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view> location bar..

giv it a tick.. location bar will be restored.. gnome has removed that
function.. so it is missing from ubuntu lucid.. Ctrl+L lets to edit
the location bar as earlier.. check this website..

"http://www.danielgibbs.net/journal/text-based-location-address-bar-
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[fsug-tvm] Re: VP8 to be open sourced & Lightworks video editor goes opensource..

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a great day for opensource.. n hats off to google for going for such a
bold move..

i have a great feeling webm will soon replace all proprietary codecs..
just look at all the companies who have come in support for the
codec.. that's what happens when google's around.. mayb in 5 yrs time
all video we get will be having a .webm extension..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: A very rough draft on 'User Friendlines' in FLOSS

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u suggested that we should accumulate money n buy patents.. a very
good thinking from my point of view.. heated debates r going on
regarding this..


stallman is against anything concerning patents. he doesn't want
anything patented to go into linux. he had even called to boycott
llinux vendors acquiring patents.. including novell..


Now i hav one question.. M$ is patenting everything they invent.. then
they use these patents against linux.. then why can't we do it against
them.. if we patent everything we invent then by 1-2 yrs we would have
a good patent pool to use againt M$.. the patents can be under a
license that says any software using an OSI approved license can use
the patent for free.. any other company should pay to use the
patents.. then it would be a great revenue source for us n after some
time we also could terrorize M$ saying that they r also infringing
some of our patents.. what's ur opinion..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Ubuntu Necessary Package (Very Useful for Offline Installation)

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r u reverse engineering the edubuntu addon cd as we discussed.. but
the problem is that they r not releasing the edubuntu addon cd now.
edubuntu is a distro of its own now n distributed in a dvd..  the last
release addon cd release was 9.04.. more work for us. mayb we can
continue the edubuntu addon cd cd n submit it back upstream..
posibilities r endless..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Ubuntu Necessary Package (Very Useful for Offline Installation)

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maashe, athum kuthi kettiyo.. maanyamayittu addon cd undakkanne..
athine eni kai vachu kulamakkano.. athu aavashyathinu nyan thanne
cheytitille..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Ubuntu Necessary Package (Very Useful for Offline Installation)

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maashe, athum kuthi kettiyo.. maanyamayittu addon cd undakkanne..
athine eni kai vachu naashamakanda..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: create(& maintain) an ubuntu addon cd..

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thnx dhananjay.. da i am planning to separate some packages n just
give it as a zip file.. zip file will be about 60mb.. it will also be
included in addon cd.. the user can install it giving "sudo dpkg -i –
force-depends *.deb".. the reasons for all that is given above.. all
the rest is in apton cd..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: create(& maintain) an ubuntu addon cd..

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many opensource softwares r prescribed by sslc syllabus.. including
these as aptoncd will be a great help to students.. the list as i know
is:

kalzium, kig, kalgebra, dr geo, kmplot, marble, kstars... pls complete
this list..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: create(& maintain) an ubuntu addon cd..

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srihari.. the addon cd would also work like u said. but it doesn't use
any scripts.. it is made as a ubuntu repository cd.. when u insert the
cd, it will automatically get added to repositories and will open the
add or remove programs. from there u can install the software u
want..

BTW, the script u mentioned is really good.. but they say it needs
polishing.. i don't think it is currently a good idea to give alpha
level script to a complete newbie.. let us wait for the script to
mature.. i hope we can include the script in the next version of addon
cd(10.10)..  kudos for stranger in black for working on the script..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: create(& maintain) an ubuntu addon cd..

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keryx doesn't give the user choice to select applications but apton cd
does.. that's what i meant by forcing him.. but please check the apps
installed by keryx before commenting.. we r installing vlc player
which is able to convert mp3 to ogg..

Why am i insisting on keryx?
1. Consider that a user who haven't ever used linux is trying ubuntu..
he doesn't need to know the various packages and their names. he just
needs his mp3 and other stuff to work.. this is where keryx comes in..
the instructions to him will be.. extract the files from the zip file
to a folder, copy paste a command we provide in readme file in
terminal and done. u r ready to go..

2. We r undertaking an effort to train various hardware vendors in
linux(as u know). they will also be provided with addon cd.. u know
how much they want to just finish their job & go.. they also can use
keryx.. fast n no time wasted..

3. keryx zip file is estimated to be 60mb.. users can simply take the
file on their mobile memory card.. they need not get the full addon
cd..


we need volunteers to complete the project.. my university xams r
coming up.. so i can volunteer to do only the keryx part.. we need
someone to do the apton cd, cd covers, etc.. i think sooraj wil
volunteer to include our addon cd in the toaster.. n please keep the
size limit in mind.. apart from software's we have to include manuals,
tutorials, etc.. i think including a handpicked screencast will spark
interest of users to know more.. suggestions n volunteers.. we need
both..

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[fsug-tvm] create(& maintain) an ubuntu addon cd..

[prakreet]

Guys, y don't we create an addon cd for ubuntu. the addon cd has to be
designed targeting newbies and users with no internet connection. a
new user installing ubuntu should just load the addon cd and be ready
to go. simple.. the cd should contain the necessary items to introduce
and make a user feel at home in ubuntu. the addon cd is also going to
be distributed at the ubuntu release party. My proposal is that we
should release an addon cd coinciding with each ubuntu release..


Why making an addon cd when we can distribute a customised distro(say
linux mint)?
This is the most usual question. the answer is simple.. because an
addon cd would make a much more impact and bring better results. now
the facts.. Considerable time and money has to be spent in creating a
brand identity which is recognised by users. we should take advantage
of it and build upon it. if we r trying to convert someone.. giving
him the ubuntu cd plus addon cd would be much better than forcing him
to use mint(which is a brand he doesn't recognise). if new users use
the addon cd we distribute then we which all packages he has on his
system. this would make troubleshooting really simple. then there are
many users who got a free ubuntu cd from shipit. those cds will just
be discarded if they can't find a way to install softwares on it. our
addon cd will definitely help here.


What the cd is not..
The addon cd is not intended to supply updates to users with no
internet connection. we would only release the addon cd coinciding
with each ubuntu release. thus we have a 6 months release shedule. i
think this's enough. now for the dive..


My proposal for the contents of the cd is..
* a keryx package containing the softwares which a user will surely
need to install on his computer.. Or which we will force him to
use..:-)

* an apton cd containing all softwares which a user will find useful.
including the sslc prescribed oss softwares here will be a great..

* pdf files of ubuntu manual. i was also planning to include the
malayalam translation of the ubuntu manual. but sadly it is nowhere
near completion..

* the audio book of ubuntu manual if the size limit permits..

* your suggestions..



the contents of keryx package:
gparted, synaptic package manager, adobe-flash, compiz config settings
manager, gstreamer codecs, vlc media player, p7zip, unrar, ntfs-
config, startup manager, deluge, avant window navigator..

the contents of apton cd.. my proposal:
google chrome, smplayer, thunderbird, k3b, wine, xchm, bisigi project
themes, supertux, educational softwares used by sslc syllabus, avast
antivirus, docky, gnome do, tux paint, tux paint stamps, gimp, skype,
pidgin, songbird..

anything else i forgot.. please suuggest the educational software's to
be included and any improvements that could be made..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: cannot play moserbaer video cd in linux..

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adhin thanx.. ur soln worked.. i can browse and play the tracks in the
vcd as u said.. but the tracks are not written in order.. so if we
just play the next track it may not be the continuation of the film..
can we somehow find the correct order of the tracks to be played..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: cannot play moserbaer video cd in linux..

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i just now tried smplayer, it plays back the 1st moserbaer ad again
and again..

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[fsug-tvm] cannot play moserbaer video cd in linux..

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i have a moserbaer video cd which plays back on windows but it just
won't play on linux..

vlc doesn't play the cd at all..
totem palys only the first moserbaer ad..
xine plays all 3 ads before the film, but not the film..

it then reaches an image where it asks if u want to play the movie or
the songs.. it just won't play anything from here.. i think it is
supposed to be a menu where we have to select something but i can't
click on anything..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: ADL Connection Problem

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if u r using bsnl broadband, set manual mode for connecting to
internet and provide the required dns servers manually.. maybe u may
have setup this in windows.. then u can simply note down the values
from windows and enter it in the network manager..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Need helps to make ubuntu manual in malayalam...Its a request...!

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here is a link to a english malayalam dictionary available on the
web.. it will be helpful to find malayalam equivalent to the english
words.. this was the best i could find.. mayb a better is available..
i didn't dig into all the google search results..
"http://malayalam.changathi.com/Dictionary.aspx";

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[fsug-tvm] Re: VP8 to be open sourced & Lightworks video editor goes opensource..

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Another reason to celebrate...

Oscar and Emmy award-winning winning video editor "Lightworks" goes
open-source.. link here..
"http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/oscar-winning-video-editor-goes-
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[fsug-tvm] Re: VP8 to be open sourced?

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Another reason to celebrate...

Oscar and Emmy award-winning winning video editor "Lightworks" goes
open-source.. link here..
"http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/oscar-winning-video-editor-goes-
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[fsug-tvm] Re: FSUG-TVM Meeting - Minutes

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da venue is paruthippara.. time is 2.30pm..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: VP8 to be open sourced?

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we just discussed this matter yesterday n this article pops up today..
wow.. if the news about google tv is right, this news most probably
will also be right.. it is just logical for google to open up its
codecs if they are going to create a thing like google tv.. lets
celebrate when the official announcement comes..

imagine if VP8 really goes open n ziph foundation gets VP8 into ogg
container.. even now ogg provides better audio clarity than mp3.. with
VP8 the video quality will also surpass any proprietary counterparts..
then mayb a time will come when all the videos available on the web
will be ogg..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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ganesh, pls read my 1st post.. all info u need is already posted
here.. don't make us double post.. the u wanted is this..
"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/translators";

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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firefox extensions are .xpi files.. maybe it is a malayalam
spellchecking dictionary for firefox..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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good to hear that u enjoy the translation.. regarding standards,
everybody else will review ur work.. we will correct any mistakes u
make.. my advice for easy translation is:

* use google transliterator.. type in manglish n ur text wil get
converted to malayalam.. it predicts the malayalam word from ur
manglish.. so it will make mistakes.. use gedit to correct its
mistakes n for touchup..

* consult malayalam wikipedia.. the original manual writers seem to
have done so.. so maybe someone may have already done the
translation.. then our job is just copy paste..

BTW nishandh, what is ur username at launchpad..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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good to hear that u enjoy the translation.. regarding standards,
everybody else will review ur work.. we will correct any mistakes u
make.. my advice for easy translation is:

* use google transliterator.. type in manglish n ur text wil get
converted to malayalam.. it predicts the malayalam word from ur
manglish.. so it will make mistakes.. use gedit to correct its
mistakes n for touchup..

* consult malayalam wikipedia.. the original manual writers seem to
have done so.. so maybe someone may have already done the
translation.. then our job is just copy paste..

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[fsug-tvm] videolan and songbird sings a new tune..

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*VideoLAN acquired by RealNetworks

*Songbird drops Linux support

i think u would have heard of this.. guys, what do u think of the
future of these softwares.. or simply what is ur opinion about the
recent change in tune..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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the Launchpad Malayalam Translators group is a moderated one.. ie, an
administrator must approve ur entry into the group.. u can do the
actual translation only after u get approved..

but getting approval is not at all hard.. anyone who wishes to join
will get approval.. in my case, i just submitted my wish to join the
group and the next day when i rechecked, i had got admitted into the
group.. prasad sr from this mailing list also got approved.. so just
submit ur wish n wait for approval.. welcome to the group nishandh..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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guys, ubuntu manual has hit writing freeze - meaning translators can
finally get some alone time to work on the project without strings
being swapped in and out of the project.. till now only prasad sr
(apart from me) has created an account on launchpad and joined the
translation effort.. there is a lot of work to do if we want to hit
the release date..

N just to make u interested.. the maual Getting Started with Ubuntu
10.04 will also be available on audio tape, read by Oscar winner
Marlee Matlin.. announcement here..
"http://ubuntu-manual.org/?audiobook";

Everything you need to know is on how to translate is here..
"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/translators";

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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More links to visit...

An introduction to the ubuntu manual project and Quickshot...
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/intro.pdf";

An introduction to launchpad..
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/launchpad.pdf";

Writing Style: What to do and what not to do When writing for the
Manual...
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/writingstyle.pdf";

LATEX for Ubuntu Manual Authors and Translators...
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/latex-handout.pdf";
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/latex-slides.pdf";

Last but not the least. The project and social media...
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/socialmedia.pdf";

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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More links to visit...

An introduction to the ubuntu manual project and Quickshot...
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/intro.pdf";

Writing Style: What to do and what not to do When writing for the
Manual...
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/writingstyle.pdf";

LATEX for Ubuntu Manual Authors and Translators...
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/latex-handout.pdf";
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/latex-slides.pdf";

Last but not the least. The project and social media...
"http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/socialmedia.pdf";

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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pls see the links in my first post for more information.. there will
be no problem of duplication as the translation work is managed on
launchpad. we all can collaborate together online.. while we do our
translation on launchpad, we are simultaneously pushing our
translations into the official manual.. the translation is managed
just like developing any opensource software..

all u need is a computer and n internet connection.. open an account
in launchpad n translate the strings one by one in ur spare time.. the
most exciting thing is that we are not the only people working on the
project.. we would be working with translators form all over kerala..
N the official manual will contain our names in its contributors
list.. i think all ur doubts are cleared now..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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wow.. happy to see volunteers putting up their hands.. my name there
is vipin.. i m now accepted in launchpad malayalam translators group..
welcome there N happy translating..

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[fsug-tvm] Help translating ubuntu manual.. Pls volunteer...

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For those who don't know what ubuntu manual is.. Visit "http://ubuntu-
manual.org/"..

In short.. the ubuntu manual project is making a high quality freely
available manual targeting the ubuntu newbie users.. the project
relies entirely on the community for creating the manual.. they are
planning to release the manual in 50 languages N malayalam is one of
them..

ubuntu manual translation is one of the projects that we took up at
the swathanthra malayalam computing camp. due to the size of the
project we cannot complete it on our own.. pls give a hand in the
translation effort in ur free time.. for details on how to contribute
goto.. "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/contributions";..

we are planning to print at least two copies of the manual(eng n
malayalam) n display it during the ubuntu release party.. happy
translating to all..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയ ാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് ക ്യാമ്പ്

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sooraj maashe, pls post the little work we have done here.. we need to
push that back into the official version.. it need not be scanned..
just take photo of it n post the link here..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയ ാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് ക ്യാമ്പ്

[prakreet]

i think we failed to exploit the potential of the people from the
kerala university who attended our camp.. in case of the ubuntu manual
translation, they could have helped us give a professional touch to
our manual if we had given them translated version rather than making
them do the translation.. the translation work was really hard for
them as their exposure to computers n free software was limited..

we could not perform as well as we expected.. but on the brighter
side, volunteers agreed to continue the translation work in their free
time.. they are also planning to divide the translation work among
their friends who could not attend our camp.. this could really make a
big impact if it works out as planned..

this is my view of swathanthra malayalam computing camp day 1..
participants add ur reviews here and pls suggest how can we improve
during our next camp..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: How to use digital camera as card reader

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u can use ur camera as a card reader.. it is not that it wil only show
pics.. if it is a problem with only these files, probably they may be
corrupt..

cameras have different modes to connect to comp.. check if u r using
pictbridge.. it is used to connect cameras directly to a printer..
that mode may only show up the pictures.. u should connect to comp
using data storage mode..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: file extension in ubuntu

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by default ubuntu displays the file extensions.. if u don't know what
a file extension is.. it is the thing after the dot.. eg:
something.jpg.. here jpg is the extension..

pls be specific if u r posting questions.. u question here is very
unclear...

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[fsug-tvm] Re: pendrive formatting Urgent help needed

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the website www.truecrypt.org says that it is an opensource software
and they support linux too.. they also provide .rpm for opensuse
and .deb packages for ubuntu..

when i searched in synaptic, i found a package "easycrypt".. It says..

Easy Crypt provides an easy-to-use GUI that allows the user to create
and mount multiple crypts, using TrueCrypt.
Crypts created with Easy Crypt can be used on any other operating
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[fsug-tvm] Re: Linux stall at our fest at SCT, Pappanamcode..

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Thanku guys for ur support.. I should thank sooraj kennoth the most..
He came to our colg to lead the stall.. We got a few installations and
burned a few cds for some but the response was not that good.. But i
promise, we wil do better next time..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Linux stall at our fest at SCT, Pappanamcode..

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then mayb we wil just use wine to show counterstrike and other windows
games running on linux..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Linux stall at our fest at SCT, Pappanamcode..

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> Games Running on linux must me attractive...
> Then animation s/w,Lmms,etc will be attractive...
> I think so...

Raru, pls specify.. can u suggest some good games running on linux.. i
am not a gaming freak.. so personally i have little knowledge about
games..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Linux stall at our fest at SCT, Pappanamcode..

[prakreet]

we wil surely be promoting foss alternatives.. we are setting up wine
demo just to impress..

can u suggest any other interesting technologies that we can
demonstrate..

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[fsug-tvm] Linux stall at our fest at SCT, Pappanamcode..

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Hello everyone.. Our college is hosting SPRDH, our college fest. Venue
will be our college.. The fest will be on 11,12,13 &14. We are setting
up a linux stall at our fest on 12th, ie on friday.. We invite
everyone here to come and be a part of our fest..

Formalities aside.. I am sorry that i was so late in putting up this
post here.. I contacted sooraj kenoth to help us in this event.. I
hope he wil come..

We are planning to setup demos of compiz, malayalam computing, wine,
[pls suggest ur ideas here].. We are planning to emphasise more on
providing packages and supports more than just giving away distro
cds.. That's all we planned.. Pls give ur suggestions too..

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[fsug-tvm] Linux stall at our fest at SCT, Pappanamcode..

[prakreet]

Hello everyone.. Our college is hosting SPRDH, our college fest. Venue
will be our college.. The fest will be on 11,12,13 &14. We are setting
up a linux stall at our fest on 12th, ie on friday.. We invite
everyone here to come and be a part of our fest..

Formalities aside.. I am sorry that i was so late in putting up this
post here..

We are planning to setup demos of compiz, malayalam computing, wine,
[pls suggest ur ideas here].. We are planning to emphasise more on
providing packages and supports more than just giving away distro
cds.. That's all we planned.. Pls give ur suggestions too..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Help | VLC behaves weird | Why?

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Vlc 1.1 can be run as  root... Great news.. on trying to run vlc 1.0.5
on my ubuntu karmic as root it just throws the error..

VLC is not supposed to be run as root. Sorry.
If you need to use real-time priorities and/or privileged TCP ports
you can use vlc-wrapper (make sure it is Set-UID root and
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[fsug-tvm] Re: Why so!!!!!!!?????

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raru, the browser in ur college definitely needs an upgrade..

u along with ur interested friends should present this matter to ur
principal.. u could install firefox for browsing on xp or better u can
make ur computers dual boot with linux.. this would be a perfect soln
for all the virus problems out there.. it is like this in my college..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Why so!!!!!!!?????

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raru, the browser in ur college definitely needs an upgrade.. u along
with ur interested friends should present this matter to ur
principal.. u could install firefox for browsing on xp or better u can
make ur computers dual boot with linux.. this would be a perfect soln
for all the virus problems out there.. it is like this in my college..

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Why so!!!!!!!?????

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many of the google services including orkut have been discontinued for
IE 6. mozilla and many others had been trying to kill off IE 6.. now
google joins the team..

Raru, in which college are u studying...

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[fsug-tvm] Re: Problem with OpenOffice and PDF

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ubuntu has apparmour.. but if apparmour is causing the prob, u
shouldn't be able to open any links from any of ur apps in firefox..
just try to open the links in the original odf documents again.. are
they opening in firefox without any prob..

if not, try installing another browser and set it as the default. then
the links will be directed to the new browser.. this might solve ur
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