Re: [ilugd] multiboot win98 winXP linux

2003-11-23 Thread Anupam Jain
On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 02:35, LinuxLingam wrote:
 dear all,
 
 surfed thru tldp.org, yolinux.org and even google, but somehow i just
 can't find a HowTo on the specific topic:
 
 1) how to install linux on a pc that already contains win98 and winxp
 
 any pointers, tutorials, faqs, howto ?
 
 thanks
 
 :-)
 LL

I have a COMPAQ Presario computer at home that came with Win2k in the
form of Compaq Quickrestore CDs. Now when installing windows, it doesn't
give you any choices and simply creates a huge windows partition. Since
everyone at home uses Windows except me, I couldn't just remove windows
and install Linux on it.

So what I did was fill up that partition with 10 Gigs of data (copied
all my Mandrake n RHL CDs to it :-)) and make a user backup which
creates a new partition (slightly smaller than the size of the data..
probably because of compression.) and backs up all the data to it. I
interrupted the actual data copying process (AFTER it had created the
partition), booted with Mandrake 9.0 cd, formatted the newly formed
partition and installed Linux on it :-)

I am sure there are better methods (resizing the windows partition for
example.. but it didn't work for me somehow..), and I would really like
to know about them too..

- AJ



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Re: [ilugd] multiboot win98 winXP linux

2003-11-23 Thread Adarsh Kr sharma
U can use FIPS32 to create a new part out of a big partition.
http://www.igd.fhg.de/~aschaefe/fips/

Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 02:35, LinuxLingam wrote:
 dear all,
 
 surfed thru tldp.org, yolinux.org and even google, but somehow i just
 can't find a HowTo on the specific topic:
 
 1) how to install linux on a pc that already contains win98 and winxp
 
 any pointers, tutorials, faqs, howto ?
 
 thanks
 
 :-)
 LL

I have a COMPAQ Presario computer at home that came with Win2k in the
form of Compaq Quickrestore CDs. Now when installing windows, it doesn't
give you any choices and simply creates a huge windows partition. Since
everyone at home uses Windows except me, I couldn't just remove windows
and install Linux on it.

So what I did was fill up that partition with 10 Gigs of data (copied
all my Mandrake n RHL CDs to it :-)) and make a user backup which
creates a new partition (slightly smaller than the size of the data..
probably because of compression.) and backs up all the data to it. I
interrupted the actual data copying process (AFTER it had created the
partition), booted with Mandrake 9.0 cd, formatted the newly formed
partition and installed Linux on it :-)

I am sure there are better methods (resizing the windows partition for
example.. but it didn't work for me somehow..), and I would really like
to know about them too..

- AJ



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Re: [ilugd] multiboot win98 winXP linux

2003-11-23 Thread LinuxLingam
On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 15:10, Adarsh Kr sharma wrote:
 U can use FIPS32 to create a new part out of a big partition.
 http://www.igd.fhg.de/~aschaefe/fips/

looks like FIPS does not work with versions beyond win95
LL


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[ilugd] hotwire ISP for linux

2003-11-23 Thread LinuxLingam
Graphical Internet Authentication Client (Hotwire) 1.0 
http://freshmeat.net/releases/142912/

Hotwire is an authentication GUI, for logging into Hotwire Internet
Services Pvt. Ltd., a broadband ISP in India. It was written because
they only provide a Windows client. Unlike that client, it retries
if
the server fails to respond. It also writes a file containing usage
details every few minutes. 


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Re: [ilugd] The December Meet

2003-11-23 Thread Puneet
that's cool! looks very exciting. wish i can be there too.

To increase the presence we can advertise this event at some colleges and
Computer institutes like NIIT and some companies. those are the places where
we will be getting most of the newbies and ppl who are just willing to know
more about Linux. I am sure our current members can do this kind of
advertisement at their place either by word of mouth or mailing to companies
list or so n so. Of course we will be geeting more volunteer for next meets
and more advertisement about linux-delhi.  and in case we are getting
overcrouded we can put some small enterence fees, just to cover up expenses
and to keep the  freebies(i mean ppl who are not serious enough) out
. There is nothing which is free in the world.

I am already smelling a fabulous and quality presence there :).

my two cents :)

cheers!
Puneet
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Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet


 On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 17:26, Ashwin Baindur wrote:


  * With help - Volunteers required please who can showcase the install,
the
  use of the Seven Steps to Samadhi programmes, speak on Newbie topics.

 i have done several talks, seminars, and workshops, where have walked
 through the seven steps to samadhi programme. the document is both an
 outcome of that, and a documentation for that. could do one for ilug-d
 as well.

 suggestion: one or two newbies could bring their *fully backed up* and
 ready-to-migrate pcs to the meet, where volunteers could demo an
 install.


  * With resources - For example, I'd appreciate if you can bring some
Linux
  books, CDs or something to the meet to show/inspire/educate the Newbie.

 abhishek could come with a nice collection set of LinuxForYou *and* a
 one-page flier of a summary of topics through the 10 months for newbies.


  * By passing the word to Newbies about this Golden Opprtunity - if we
can
  get even say a dozen newbies of whom say even three-four get hooked -
we'd
  have achieved success. Anything more than that would be good success,
great
  success or extraordinary success (depending on how many come .AND.
become
  Linux-lovers).

 neat idea.

 
  I'd be able to do a little bit of each of the things I've asked help
for -
  but the success of an ILUGD Meet depends on - how many ILUGDites
actually
  come, and as importantly, how many get 'involved' in organising the
meet.

 members could spread the word *beyond* and *outside* the firewalls of
 linux-delhi? ad-hoc, verbatim. what do you say?
 
  Now, dear ILUGDites - the cat is out of the bag.
  Let's put our words into
  action and move forward to make the Meet a success.
 
  PS - I promise to deliver on the Jungle Juice ;-) .
  Regards, Ashwin


 let's do a dhamaka in december

 :-)
 LL


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Re: [ilugd] The December Meet

2003-11-23 Thread Puneet
  * With resources - For example, I'd appreciate if you can bring some
Linux
  books, CDs or something to the meet to show/inspire/educate the Newbie.

 abhishek could come with a nice collection set of LinuxForYou *and* a
 one-page flier of a summary of topics through the 10 months for newbies.


how about distributing Mandrake 9.2 CDs. that is one of the best and user
friendly distro I have seen. I have 3 CD set here with me. if u ppl don't
have it i can mail or courier it from here. later you ppl can make copies of
it and distribute(sell at CD cost). though it is available for public
download from mandrake mirrors also.

cheers!
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Re: [ilugd] multiboot win98 winXP linux

2003-11-23 Thread Raj Shekhar
On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 02:35, LinuxLingam wrote:
 1) how to install linux on a pc that already contains win98 and winxp
 
 any pointers, tutorials, faqs, howto ?

Linux can coexist very peacefully with Win98, WinXP and WIn 2k (unless
Murphy's Laws intervene). The problem is not these OS but the NT file
system. The GNU parted and FIPS cannot repartition NTFS. You will have
to use Partition Magic to repartition the drive and then install Linux.
You can use GRUB in the MBR and it will easily recognize XP , 2k and
Win98.

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Re: [ilugd] multiboot win98 winXP linux

2003-11-23 Thread LinuxLingam
On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 21:08, Raj Shekhar wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 02:35, LinuxLingam wrote:
  1) how to install linux on a pc that already contains win98 and winxp
  
  any pointers, tutorials, faqs, howto ?
 
 Linux can coexist very peacefully with Win98, WinXP and WIn 2k (unless
 Murphy's Laws intervene). The problem is not these OS but the NT file
 system. The GNU parted and FIPS cannot repartition NTFS. You will have
 to use Partition Magic to repartition the drive and then install Linux.
 You can use GRUB in the MBR and it will easily recognize XP , 2k and
 Win98.

yes, that's correct.

wish i could find a place where steps are written clearly, on howto
install linux in a pc which already has winxp and win98. i.e. make a
dual-boot win-only, into a triple-boot.

raj, i believe there are a few other issues as well. a site mentions
that you may mount and read+write to a fat32 partition in linux, but you
shouldn't try that with the ntfs partition. one site mentions you
shouldn't even mount it. (!)

quite interestingly though, the tldp.org site has a wonderful guide on
how to install a triple-boot pc, with winXX, *BSD, and GnuLinux.

i found this rather interesting. but not relevant to my question.

??
LL


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Re: [ilugd] Linux support

2003-11-23 Thread Anuj Sharma
hey,

i have a compaq presario too. the issue u r facing with thequickrestore CD 
is cuz they r meant to return ur system config to factory settings which is 
w/o partitions. this has nothing to dowith linux per say.

cheers
anuj sharma





From: Naresh Narang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:57:17 -0800 (PST)
Compaq generally has limited support for Linux. They
also advice you not to upgrade kernel or you will lose
any warantees etc. - as if warantees mean anything if
a kernel was unstable on a certain hardware.
--Naresh

--- LinuxLingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 14:55, Anupam Jain wrote:

  I have a COMPAQ Presario computer at home that
 came with Win2k in the
  form of Compaq Quickrestore CDs. Now when
 installing windows, it doesn't
  give you any choices and simply creates a huge
 windows partition.
=
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Re: [ilugd] multiboot win98 winXP linux

2003-11-23 Thread Raj Shekhar
On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 23:24, LinuxLingam wrote:

 raj, i believe there are a few other issues as well. a site mentions
 that you may mount and read+write to a fat32 partition in linux, but you
 shouldn't try that with the ntfs partition. one site mentions you
 shouldn't even mount it. (!)

NTFS support is being worked upon and is quite mature now, but it still
supports only Read and is experimental with Write. However, if you are
using stock Red Hat kernel then you will not the Read support. In case
you need  to have the NTFS Read support, see
http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/ to get a RPM to do it. 

In summary, you can have NTFS Read support but not NTFS write support. I
had experimented with the Read support and it is quite safe. 


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[ilugd] gtkam support for c-120

2003-11-23 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
This is a continuation of the chat I had with Kishore about gtkam and 
digital cameras earlier.  MY olympus c-120 seems to be unsupported. :(

- Sandip



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Re: [ilugd] Linux Support Engineers

2003-11-23 Thread Rahul Barua
Dear All ,
Who the Fuck cares wat the Linux group accepts or not , well u guyz are just
a big fart building websites and debugging sound card and agp card issues
,well not to mention u all suck while givin real support and i dont
understand how come all o/p data becomes insufficient and incomprehensible
suddenly ,any way the linux group can spare me the atrocities id be happy ,
plz I have not subscribed to any of ur services .Dont bother , just go and
kiss ass some where else , and kaushal why do u think these guys are of any
help , havent u seen other forums .thanks for trying anyway ..Delhi
Linux Fart list ..
Regards

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[ilugd] Linux Bangalore/2003 announced

2003-11-23 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
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Linux Bangalore/2003 announced

India's biggest annual Open Source event to take place on December 2/3/4,
2003

Bangalore 19-Nov-2003: Linux Bangalore/2003, India's biggest and
most popular Linux and Open Source event, will take palce at Bangalore on
December 2/3/4, making it the third year that this event has been organised.


What differentiates this event from commercial events (that are typically
driven by vendors) is that this event is completely conceived, organised and
driven by the Open Source community, focussing on technology talks and a
technology expo. 

Linux Bangalore/2003 continues to work on the basis of its low-cost model -
delegates pay only Rs.300 (US$6.50 - Rs.500/US$11 for people who do not
register on the website) to have access to all the talks and subevents. The
registration fee includes lunch and snacks and a conference T-Shirt. The
event itself is funded entirely by sponsorships and sale of expo space.


If someone would think that low-cost means low quality - think again! Over
the three days, this event will feature almost 100 talks from well known
Open Source technologists such as Miguel de Icaza (Mono/Ximian), Rasmus
Lerdorf (PHP), Nat Friedman (Ximian), Jeremy Zawodny (MySQL/Yahoo), Bdale
Garbee (Debian), Harald Welte (iptables) and others, along with a variety of
well known community and industry speakers, including Gopi Garge, Kishore
Bhargava, Atul Chitnis, Sirtaj Singh Kang, Naba Kumar, Sudhakar 'Thaths'
Chandrasekharan and others. 

And to end each day, the organizers have planned the screening of a movie, a
fusion music concert by the renowned fusion group Laya Taranga, and a rock
concert by the well known group Phenom.

The event, which consistently has drawn thousands of developers,
implementors and enthusiasts from across the world, is sponsored by Linux
and Open Source supporters HP, Novell and Exocore, with a number of industry
and government bodies endorsing the event as well.

Bangalore, already the IT capital of India, is quickly becoming a hothouse
for Open Source development, with companies like Ximian/Novell, IBM, HP and
others setting up development centres there.

About Linux Bangalore/2003:

Linux Bangalore/2003 is India's premier Linux/OpenSource event. This annual
event brings together professionals and enthusiasts from India, Asia and the
rest of the world for a three day Applied Technology Conference.

For more information about the event, please visit 

http://linux-bangalore.org/2003

or contact the organizers at 

http://linux-bangalore.org/2003/contact/

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[ilugd] Reg: The December Meet

2003-11-23 Thread Tushar Shah
Hi,
   I am willing to volunteer for the installation demo during the december
meet(subject to condition  my end-semester exams finish on time ) .
Also I am not experinced with Debain , So I can give a demo based on
fedora :) . Also I will not be able to arrange for a machine .Someone
else has to arrange for it
bye
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Re: [ilugd] Linux , not a capable NOS ?

2003-11-23 Thread Tushar Shah
Hi,
From my understanding of a NOS  Plan 9 is a true NOS while Linux is
not (Plan 9 is Open source as of now . Though the exact licenesing
under which it is made open source I am not sure of  )
bye
Tushar

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[ilugd] Free software article in Hindu

2003-11-23 Thread Rajesh K. Jha

Today's Hindu (22.11.3) has an interesting article on free-software:


The free software option 
By C. Rammanohar Reddy



http://www.hindu.com/2003/11/22/stories/2003112200721000.htm




Rajesh K. Jha


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[ilugd] help!!!

2003-11-23 Thread suva
i wanna know if there is any download-accelerator sort of thing to 
download faster in linux.if it is,send me the link also.

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Re: [ilugd] Reg: The December Meet

2003-11-23 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Dear Tushar,
Thanks for your help. I want a volunteer for first step to Samadhi. Can you 
get a copy of GNuIIWin and demonstrate it?
I've got a dual-boot Athlon with Win XP and RH 8.0. Sorry, no fedora :-). 
You'll have to work on that. Reply me offline if you would like to accept 
this. If not, we'll consider some other form of help.
Regards, Ashwin


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Hi,
   I am willing to volunteer for the installation demo during the december
meet(subject to condition  my end-semester exams finish on time ) .
Also I am not experinced with Debain , So I can give a demo based on
fedora :) . Also I will not be able to arrange for a machine .Someone
else has to arrange for it
bye
Tushar Shah
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