Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread Kapil Sethi
Mr. Dushyant wrote:
Dear sir,
I am final year student of IIT Delhi(computer science). 

We have urgent requirement for System Administrator with our organisation.
Please send your profile to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

Crazy people studying in IIT, can't read the complete mail before 
clicking reply button.

Kapil Sethi
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Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread anil bindal
With IIT degree in Com. Science, there could be better things to do than
be in Sys Admin. It is a thankless , low paid job.

These days one does not need a technical degree to be in sys admin.. and
there are abundant of sys admin ( non-technical back ground )  in India.

However if you are planning to settle abroad then it is a good choice..


On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 12:27, Mr. Dushyant wrote:

 Dear sir,
 I am final year student of IIT Delhi(computer science). I am very keen
 in persueing my career as system administrator (though I don't have
 much experience as system administrator).But due to my academics I am
 not able to pursue full time career as system administrator now still
 I would like to do some volunteer work so that I can have hands-on
 experience.
 Could you please consider. I have in depth theoretical knowledge of
 Linux, and other Unix like arch's, operating systems and computer
 networks,My Resume is attached with this mail.
 I would be highly obliged if you let me know if you can help.
 Thank You.
 Dushyant
 
 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:52:33 +0530, Dhruv Soi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All
  
  We have urgent requirement for System Administrator with our organisation.
  It will be level 1 profile and person should be capable of handling complete
  IT infra, project planning and resourcing. Should be capable of taking
  initiatives and implementing new setups.
  
  Person should be excellent in Linux Environment, should have good knowledge
  with Windows/Solaris systems as well, capable of handling LAN/WAN, sound
  knowledge of IPTABLES(experience in Shorewall would add advantage), IDS,
  bandwidth monitoring tools, PPTP/IPSEC VPN, Squid, Sendmail, Apache/Tomcat,
  Samba, CVS, LDAP, Mysql, Bugzilla, CUPS, Cisco routers, perl scripting,
  excellent communications skills.
  
  Please send your profile to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Opening is Noida based (Morning shift), you can call me incase you like to
  have more details about profile.
  
  Thanks
  
  Dhruv
  
  +91-9899884990
  
  System Administrator
  
  Momentum Technologies(SEI CMM Level 5 company), Noida
  
  www.momentum-tech.com
  
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Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread Kapil Sethi
Hi Anil,
anil bindal wrote:
With IIT degree in Com. Science, there could be better things to do than
be in Sys Admin. It is a thankless , low paid job.
These days one does not need a technical degree to be in sys admin.. and
there are abundant of sys admin ( non-technical back ground )  in India.
However if you are planning to settle abroad then it is a good choice..
 

Systems admin is no way a low paid job.
Thankless yes, but a sysadmin is backbone of IT deptt of any company. As 
a human tendency people care more about their face or hands than their 
backbone, so nothing unusual in that.

A good sysadmin requires good understanding of OS internal, networking 
protocols and is expected to posses good programming skills. BY all 
means good techical brains are required in the field of systems admin, 
and yes there is big money here also.

Kapil Sethi
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[ilugd] Minutes of Meeting Linux Delhi Oct Meet

2004-10-26 Thread Tarun Dua
The meeting started off with usual introductions with people reciting how
long they have been using linux(and less about who they are)

The first talk was Sudev Barar talking about his reason for using linux and
forcing a lot of others to use linux. The five (or was it six) main reasons
he gave for using linux and advocating it was 
1) Money
2) Money
3) Money
4) More Money
5) Even More Money
After that there was a long tea-break with or chai-break as the students
from School of Convergence put it.

Raj Shekhar arrived just in the nick of time before his talk and got his
surprise gift ( a Maharaja Tux T-Shirt ) .
Raj Shekhar delved at length on how to get help from man pages, info
documentation and other sources of help from the system
including /usr/share/doc

Finally Arjun talked about basic Unix Shell scripting using bash.

Then some of the members left for PVR Saket.
-Tarun


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Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
anil bindal wrote:
It is a thankless , low paid job.
The paragraph above follows from the one below, right? ;)
These days one does not need a technical degree to be in sys admin.. and
there are abundant of sys admin ( non-technical back ground )  in India.
A person who is more thorough about CS theory, is likely to be a better 
sysadmin.

And yes, a *good* sysadmin can get paid as much as a *good* programmer. 
Even in India itself. Maybe, you havent yet met any yet. ;)

- Sandip
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RE: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread Nawneet
Yes me too agree with kapil :-)

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Hi Anil,

anil bindal wrote:

With IIT degree in Com. Science, there could be better things to do than
be in Sys Admin. It is a thankless , low paid job.

These days one does not need a technical degree to be in sys admin.. and
there are abundant of sys admin ( non-technical back ground )  in India.

However if you are planning to settle abroad then it is a good choice..


Systems admin is no way a low paid job.

Thankless yes, but a sysadmin is backbone of IT deptt of any company. As
a human tendency people care more about their face or hands than their
backbone, so nothing unusual in that.

A good sysadmin requires good understanding of OS internal, networking
protocols and is expected to posses good programming skills. BY all
means good techical brains are required in the field of systems admin,
and yes there is big money here also.

Kapil Sethi


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Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread Dhruv Soi
Most secured job in IT industry System Administrator, if the person is
technically sound and good in Man management..

Most frustrating job in IT industry System Administrator, if the person is
technically weak and couldn't organize himself.


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Subject: Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent


 anil bindal wrote:
  It is a thankless , low paid job.

 The paragraph above follows from the one below, right? ;)

 
  These days one does not need a technical degree to be in sys admin.. and
  there are abundant of sys admin ( non-technical back ground )  in India.

 A person who is more thorough about CS theory, is likely to be a better
 sysadmin.

 And yes, a *good* sysadmin can get paid as much as a *good* programmer.
 Even in India itself. Maybe, you havent yet met any yet. ;)

 - Sandip

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Re: ATTENTION: Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread anil bindal
Well..

What you say is also correct but i was talking in relative terms. e.g.
same no. of experience in embeded  could fetch double the salary.. and
with due respect to our sys admin. profession.. IIT grads. would be more
useful in designing more technical stuff like DSP / FPGA etc.. They
would be more apted to work on Wireless/ embdeded technologies ... than
doing all those kind of routine sys admin work...

Working in technologies development would always be highest paid,
non-redundant..and highly skilled jobs..Increments for the Sys admin
would always be lower as compared to development engineers... it is
market economics .. demand and supply type..

Like in Embeded and in ASIC.. it is not unusual to get 5+ lacs above
after 3 years of experience.. and it would continue to double every 3-4
years or so..

BTW I am curious to know as to what is the average salary for Indian sys
admins in say any MNC for following no.  of year's experience.. ( assume
that guy has required skills ) 

1-2  yrs
3-5 yrs
6-8 yrs
10 yrs 
10+ yrs

Is there any salary survey for Indian IT guys.. ?

I consider big money as 10-12 lacs p.a. for a 8-9 years experience
engineering graduate..which is possible these days in Technology
development areas..


On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 12:49, Kapil Sethi wrote:

 Hi Anil,
 
 anil bindal wrote:
 
 With IIT degree in Com. Science, there could be better things to do than
 be in Sys Admin. It is a thankless , low paid job.
 
 These days one does not need a technical degree to be in sys admin.. and
 there are abundant of sys admin ( non-technical back ground )  in India.
 
 However if you are planning to settle abroad then it is a good choice..
   
 
 Systems admin is no way a low paid job.
 
 Thankless yes, but a sysadmin is backbone of IT deptt of any company. As 
 a human tendency people care more about their face or hands than their 
 backbone, so nothing unusual in that.
 
 A good sysadmin requires good understanding of OS internal, networking 
 protocols and is expected to posses good programming skills. BY all 
 means good techical brains are required in the field of systems admin, 
 and yes there is big money here also.
 
 Kapil Sethi

Regards,

Anil Bindal
DCM Technologies
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Re: ATTENTION: Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread Dhruv Soi
This is my idea with a believe that luck is working for the person.

Figures may vary depending on Industry to Industry, and nevermind i could be
wrong... :-)


1-2  yrs2L - 3.5L
3-5 yrs 2.5L - 6L
6-8 yrs 4L - 8L
10 yrs   7L-10L
10+ yrs Should start a company or should get a profile like CTO and can
get stakes in company.

Thanks
Dhruv

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To: Kapil Sethi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: ATTENTION: Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System
Administrator(level1) -Urgent


 Well..

 What you say is also correct but i was talking in relative terms. e.g.
 same no. of experience in embeded  could fetch double the salary.. and
 with due respect to our sys admin. profession.. IIT grads. would be more
 useful in designing more technical stuff like DSP / FPGA etc.. They
 would be more apted to work on Wireless/ embdeded technologies ... than
 doing all those kind of routine sys admin work...

 Working in technologies development would always be highest paid,
 non-redundant..and highly skilled jobs..Increments for the Sys admin
 would always be lower as compared to development engineers... it is
 market economics .. demand and supply type..

 Like in Embeded and in ASIC.. it is not unusual to get 5+ lacs above
 after 3 years of experience.. and it would continue to double every 3-4
 years or so..

 BTW I am curious to know as to what is the average salary for Indian sys
 admins in say any MNC for following no.  of year's experience.. ( assume
 that guy has required skills )

 1-2  yrs
 3-5 yrs
 6-8 yrs
 10 yrs
 10+ yrs

 Is there any salary survey for Indian IT guys.. ?

 I consider big money as 10-12 lacs p.a. for a 8-9 years experience
 engineering graduate..which is possible these days in Technology
 development areas..


 On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 12:49, Kapil Sethi wrote:

  Hi Anil,
 
  anil bindal wrote:
 
  With IIT degree in Com. Science, there could be better things to do
than
  be in Sys Admin. It is a thankless , low paid job.
  
  These days one does not need a technical degree to be in sys admin..
and
  there are abundant of sys admin ( non-technical back ground )  in
India.
  
  However if you are planning to settle abroad then it is a good choice..
  
  
  Systems admin is no way a low paid job.
 
  Thankless yes, but a sysadmin is backbone of IT deptt of any company. As
  a human tendency people care more about their face or hands than their
  backbone, so nothing unusual in that.
 
  A good sysadmin requires good understanding of OS internal, networking
  protocols and is expected to posses good programming skills. BY all
  means good techical brains are required in the field of systems admin,
  and yes there is big money here also.
 
  Kapil Sethi

 Regards,

 Anil Bindal
 DCM Technologies
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Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
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On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:44 pm, anil bindal wrote:
 With IIT degree in Com. Science, there could be better things to do than
 be in Sys Admin. It is a thankless , low paid job.


Is is really so ? Just because you get an IIT degree, does it 
guarantee/promise better and great jobs ??

 These days one does not need a technical degree to be in sys admin.. and
 there are abundant of sys admin ( non-technical back ground )  in India.


I think you're wrong here completely.
Take my live example here.
I've been into GNU and Linux for the past 5 years. I'm able to now grade 
myself into Power User category too.
I've cleared interviews from Wipro, Dell and many other companies. Got offer 
letters concerning the package plan.
And then when I tell them that my academics are bad, people get stunted. 
Before I reveal this they say that I'm technically sound for the role of job 
they have and once I disclose about my degree they say they've got many 
company norms that don't allow undergraduates blah blah..

My answer to them, Fine.. Go, find a graduate with better skills.

I did my S.L.C (60%) from Nepal. I did my +2 (40%) from Nepal. I did my B.Sc 
(IT) Distance Education Degree from Delhi from Manipal University (Final 
Semester Result awaited).

Still people, organizations prefer degrees over technical skills. I'm not sure 
wether they should or shouldn't.

This is one good reason for me to have been jobless since 1 year.

So my conclusion up till now says:
If you need a job, Go get a degree. No matter where you get from, how you get 
from.

rrs
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Re: ATTENTION: Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread Kapil Sethi
anil bindal wrote:
Well..
What you say is also correct but i was talking in relative terms. e.g. 
same no. of experience in embeded  could fetch double the salary.. and 
with due respect to our sys admin. profession.. IIT grads. would be more 
useful in designing more technical stuff like DSP / FPGA etc.. They 
would be more apted to work on Wireless/ embdeded technologies ... than 
doing all those kind of routine sys admin work...

I Agree
Working in technologies development would always be highest paid, 
non-redundant..and highly skilled jobs..Increments for the Sys admin 
would always be lower as compared to development engineers... it is 
market economics .. demand and supply type..

I agree
Like in Embeded and in ASIC.. it is not unusual to get 5+ lacs above 
after 3 years of experience.. and it would continue to double every 3-4 
years or so..

I agree
BTW I am curious to know as to what is the average salary for Indian sys 
admins in say any MNC for following no.  of year's experience.. ( assume 
that guy has required skills )

( To my knowledge, the following salary is for people working primarily 
on Linux. Sysadmins on proprietory OS / Software may get much higher 
salaris than this.)
1-2  yrs
1.5 - 2.5 lakhs
3-5 yrs
3 - 5 lakhs
6-8 yrs, 10 yrs, 10+ yrs
More


Is there any salary survey for Indian IT guys.. ?
I consider big money as 10-12 lacs p.a. for a 8-9 years experience 
engineering graduate..which is possible these days in Technology 
development areas..

Kapil Sethi
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Re: Hallofshame web page (was) Re: [ilugd] Re: [RANT Maybe OT] Wired - weird India

2004-10-26 Thread Kapil Sethi
Hi All,
Here is one more candidate for hall of shame.
1. http://ttsvisas.com
The Site is for making appointments with US Counsolate for Visas.
The homepage works well with Firefox, however the pages, which tell you 
the availability on a calender shows contents well with IE only.

I have the screenshots taken, for proof, since I cant divelge my 
application number details.

I have not contacted this company for this.
Regards
Kapil Sethi
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Re: [ilugd] [OT] ILUGD blogs site

2004-10-26 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 04:12:23AM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 Just some light hearted fodder for ILUGD members feeling bored at some time 
  ... and helping them catch up with their comrades.
 http://blogs.lug-delhi.org

Cool! Thanks Sandip.

 Your site needs to have rss export options. Till Drupal 4.5 has atom 
 support, blogs.lug-delhi.org cant collect atom exports. This will probably 
 cut off Livejournal users (I couldnt spot a RSS link in its pages).

LiveJournal has both RSS (2.0) and atom feeds available for all users.
For example, the feeds of my LJ are at: 

http://www.livejournal.com/users/vipul/data/rss
http://www.livejournal.com/users/vipul/data/atom

Read this FAQ for details:
http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=149

Hey nice work with lug-delhi.org sandeep!

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Re: [ilugd] Professional Help Required to Setup 'All Linux' office

2004-10-26 Thread Sudev Barar
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 14:01, amit sharma wrote:
 i am looking for a company / individual that can help me setup 'all linux' office in 
 bangalore.
 its my vision and i would like to keep my office totally M$ free.
 right from users desktops to high end server running oracle, application server, all 
 on linux. mail servers, firewall, IDS, router - all linux.
 diskless pc, thin clients, pc's - i am open to all options right now.
 
 looking forward towards some suggestions/ help in this regard, professional or 
 otherwise.
 
 amit
 9880268069

For work in Bangalore why put query in Linux-Delhi??
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Re: [ilugd] Professional Help Required to Setup 'All Linux' office

2004-10-26 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
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On Tuesday 26 October 2004 04:00 pm, Sudev Barar wrote:
 For work in Bangalore why put query in Linux-Delhi??

So that any consultant who finds it interesting and worth it takes over the 
work.


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Re: [ilugd] Getting system load and performance infomation

2004-10-26 Thread rakesh jaiswal
go to system tools  system monitor to check CPU and RAM uses.

For HDD space:
$df -h

Rakesh


On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 Vikram Mandal wrote :
Hi,



I need to display information about the system load and performance of Red Hat 
Linux and FreeBSD using PHP script.



What are the possible ways of achieving it? Also I am not very clear about what all 
should system load include - memory usage, CPU utilization, Disk space are some of 
the parameters that comes to my mind, or is there something I am missing here?



Any hint, thoughts, suggestions are welcome.



- Vikram.


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Re: [ilugd] Professional Help Required to Setup 'All Linux' office

2004-10-26 Thread Amit Sharma
 On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 14:01, amit sharma wrote:
  i am looking for a company / individual that can help me setup 'all
linux' office in bangalore.
  its my vision and i would like to keep my office totally M$ free.
  right from users desktops to high end server running oracle, application
server, all on linux. mail servers, firewall, IDS, router - all linux.
  diskless pc, thin clients, pc's - i am open to all options right now.
 
  looking forward towards some suggestions/ help in this regard,
professional or otherwise.
 
  amit
  9880268069

 For work in Bangalore why put query in Linux-Delhi??

coz y'day i came to know that Linux-Delhi members are very popular among
b'lore list and few of the 'high profile' members of linux delhi do have a
very good contact /base in bangalore.

amit


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[ilugd] Re: System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread amitsoni

With IIT degree in Com. Science, there could be better things to do than

be in Sys Admin. It is a thankless , low paid job.

thankless true
I disagree. Depends on how good the previous administrator was.
In general, all maintainace(back bone) work can be called thankless. 
Primarily because interaction between the prospectivce thanks givers and the 
maintainers happens ONLY when something goes wrong with the back bone.

However, a good administartor who has recently replaced a bad administrator 
is likely to receive maximum thank you's. Life is good for such a 
administrator for a few months. I highly recommend a change of company after 
that ! ;o)

low paid not true
Low paid a low level. Again because every who knows how to share an internet 
connection, install a firewall, create new users calls himself/herself an 
administrator. Result is numerous so called administrators. If we count them 
in, yes its a low paying job.

However, if we count people who are worthy of being called administrators. 
Not a low paid job at all !

HR is this country needs to go through a compulsory administrator practice 
before things improve here. ;o)

Unless the HR realizes the pain involved in attending a complaint, that was 
created because...taar nikal gayee hai, jhuka nahin jaa rahathey wont 
realize what an administrator goes through. Until then, job will remain low 
paying.

-Amit.

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[ilugd] Opensource video card proposed in LKML

2004-10-26 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/4057
Linux: Status Update On Open Source Friendly Graphics Card
Timothy Miller offered a summary of the recent discussions surrounding his 
proposal to create a free software and open-source friendly graphics card 
[story], I'm still trying to digest all the feedback I've been getting. 
It's overwhelming and gratifying, and I want to offer my gratitude for all 
the discussion and ideas. He noted that as the active discussion evolves 
toward the actual implementation of the card, his intention is to move it 
from the lkml to another more topical mailing list. He then went on to 
discuss the features that will most likley be in the new graphics card.

Timothy pointed out that the card would have a reprogrammable 
field-programmable gate array (FPGA) primarily to reduce non-recurring 
engineering (NRE) costs. He explains, reprogramability is not its primary 
purpose. The primary reason to use an FPGA is to minimize NRE for 
manufacturing. However, as a result, users will be able to download 
updates. Additionally, those who are dedicated enough to reprogram it 
completely will find the necessary documentation to do so. Finally, it is 
my desire that we would release the source code to the FPGA for obsoleted 
products, however, it's too early to make promises.

He went on to further describe the Graphics Processor Unit (GPU), 
explaining, what I'm thinking is that the setup engine will be [a] 
general-purpose-ish CPU with special vector and matrix instructions. This 
way, the transformation stage will occur in software executed by a 
specialized processor. Additionally, the lighting phase might be done here 
as well. The setup engine would produce triangle parameters which are fed 
to a rasterizer which does Gouraud shading and texture-mapping. That feeds 
pixels into something that handles antialiasing and alpha blending, etc. 
He noted that this offers three advantages: the engine is fully 
customizable by the user community simply by writing code, 2d emulation is 
included, and anything missing can be emulated. He also pointed out three 
disadvantages: the triangle rate would be limited by the speed of the 
processor, transform and lighting (TL) functionality would be serialized, 
and phong shading and bump mapping may be impossible or too slow. Read on 
for the full description.

[...]

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Re: [ilugd] Getting system load and performance infomation

2004-10-26 Thread Sibayan Das
you can use . variables of MRTG. but i think the best option will
be cacti. for refference feel free to visit www.cacti.net.

regards


On 26 Oct 2004 10:54:40 -, rakesh  jaiswal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 go to system tools  system monitor to check CPU and RAM uses.
 
 For HDD space:
 $df -h
 
 Rakesh
 
 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 Vikram Mandal wrote :
 Hi,
 
 
 
 I need to display information about the system load and performance of Red Hat 
 Linux and FreeBSD using PHP script.
 
 
 
 What are the possible ways of achieving it? Also I am not very clear about what all 
 should system load include - memory usage, CPU utilization, Disk space are some of 
 the parameters that comes to my mind, or is there something I am missing here?
 
 
 
 Any hint, thoughts, suggestions are welcome.
 
 
 
 - Vikram.
 
 
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Re: [ilugd] Getting system load and performance infomation

2004-10-26 Thread Kishore Bhargava
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 Vikram Mandal wrote :
Hi,
I need to display information about the system load and performance of Red Hat Linux 
and FreeBSD using PHP script.
Here's a simple way:
http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/
Cheers...Kishore
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[ilugd] Towards a World Intellectual Wealth Organisation

2004-10-26 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya

 Original Message 
Subject: [Fsf-friends] I think FSFI should endorse this
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:08:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Krishna Pagadala
To: FSF Friends
Towards a World Intellectual Wealth Organisation
http://www.fsfeurope.org/documents/wiwo.en.html
 Original Message Ends ---
The Geneva Declaration [1] is an impressive step towards the creation of a 
broad coalition of people, organisations and countries [2] demanding that 
the international community re-think the goals and mechanisms for awarding 
monopoly control over different kinds of knowledge. It offers many 
constructive, concrete suggestions for changes in WIPO goals, policies and 
priorities, and provides ample and insightful arguments for redesign of the 
copyright and patent bargains to better serve the public interest of all of 
humankind.

We are convinced that new answers sometimes require new questions, not more 
careful repetition of old questions. A World Intellectual Property 
Organisation will always, understandably, lean towards applying the 
pre-selected tool-set of monopolisation that it refers to as Intellectual 
Property; a term that we find to be ideologically charged and dangerously 
oblivious to the significant differences that exist between the many areas 
of law that it tries to subsume.

While it may look at better, possibly more socially sustainable ways of 
granting ownership-like monopolies over different forms of knowledge, WIPO 
will not have an easy time looking for alternative solutions. WIPO is not 
what we need.

We need a World Intellectual Wealth Organisation, dedicated to the research 
and promotion of novel and imaginative ways to encourage the production and 
dissemination of knowledge. Granting limited monopolies and limited control 
over some kinds of knowledge may be part of this new organisations 
tool-set, but not the only one, and maybe not even the most important one.

We endorse and support the Geneva Declaration, and invite its drafters, 
signatories, and the United Nations to start thinking now not only about 
what the role of WIPO should be, but rather what kind of organisation we 
need in its place.

References
[1] Geneva Declaration: http://www.cptech.org/ip/wipo/genevadeclaration.html
[2] Proposal by Argentina and Brazil for the establishment of a development 
agenda for WIPO: 
http://www.wipo.int/documents/en/document/govbody/wo_gb_ga/pdf/wo_ga_31_11.pdf

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Re: [ilugd] Professional Help Required to Setup 'All Linux' office

2004-10-26 Thread amitsoni
Can u tell us whats your budget and how many PCs you want GPLized ?
I am currently doing linux conversion for network bandwidth, spam, virus 
control at gateway level for some govt. organizations.

I cant come to banglore, but expect free email support anytime.


- Original Message - 
From: amit sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:01 PM
Subject: [ilugd] Professional Help Required to Setup 'All Linux' office


hi,
i am looking for a company / individual that can help me setup 'all linux' 
office in bangalore.

its my vision and i would like to keep my office totally M$ free.
right from users desktops to high end server running oracle, application 
server, all on linux. mail servers, firewall, IDS, router - all linux.

diskless pc, thin clients, pc's - i am open to all options right now.
looking forward towards some suggestions/ help in this regard, 
professional or otherwise.

amit
9880268069
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[ilugd] Which GPL product helped u earn maximum income ?

2004-10-26 Thread amitsoni
I just wanted to know especially from freelancers, what GPL product has 
contributed majorly to their income ?

Even though as lot of other GPL stuff was used but the core for me were 
these:
PHP/MySQL and Nessus.


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Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent

2004-10-26 Thread Dhruba Roy
You may be right Mr. Kapil. But a student is still going through their
learning curve and to err is human. Either one should ignore the reply or
make one understand what you intend to say. This is a forum where we don't
throw brickbats instead bring the community together. You may have grudge
against the institution but please don't make it personal. Incidently, I
am not one of them.

Cheers,
Dhruba


On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Kapil Sethi wrote:

 Mr. Dushyant wrote:
 
 Dear sir,
 I am final year student of IIT Delhi(computer science). 
 
 We have urgent requirement for System Administrator with our organisation.
 
 Please send your profile to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Crazy people studying in IIT, can't read the complete mail before 
 clicking reply button.
 
 Kapil Sethi
 
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Re: Hallofshame web page (was) Re: [ilugd] Re: [RANT Maybe OT] Wired - weird India

2004-10-26 Thread Sudev Barar
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 14:13, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 Kapil Sethi wrote:
  Hi All,
  
  Here is one more candidate for hall of shame.
  
  1. http://ttsvisas.com
[SNIP]

 Seems to be a private agent for visa processing. So cant be included 
 according to *present* conditions at http://www.lug-delhi.org/HallOfShame
 
 
 [...]
 2. We are not targetting each and every Indian website with these 
 conditions. Rather we are targetting sites which are critical to the 
 general public, which at present includes:
   1. Banking and insurance websites
   2. Government websites

I think there is need for such inclusions also. The ttk guys are front
end for US.gov..whatever... so they should not be locking out OSS
friendly people.
Secondly the momentum for web sites to be OSS friendly will force
advanced planning: on the site designers because of overall awareness.

Vote for change of conditions??
-- 
Sudev Barar
Learning Linux


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Re: [ilugd] Getting system load and performance infomation

2004-10-26 Thread Vikram Mandal
- Original Message - 
From: Kishore Bhargava [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Getting system load and performance infomation


On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 Vikram Mandal wrote :
Hi,
I need to display information about the system load and performance of 
Red Hat Linux and FreeBSD using PHP script.

Here's a simple way:
http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/
Thanks, but the above srcipt needs access to /proc files which is not 
posssible since php srcipts running under a web server does not have access 
to system files.

BTW, do you know what Load Averages 0.16 0.26 0.12  means? I mean what 
does it tells anyone about the system.

I am sorry for such novice queries; I am very new to linux.
Cheers...Kishore
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