[ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
Dear all, I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG members for a talk on Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT on 5th September, Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. Many people in our college are motivated about Linux and open-source. It will be great if some of the experienced developers and contributors could come and share their experiences with working in open-source with my fellow students. I had a wonderful experience talking to Dr. Gora, Atul Chitnis, Kishore Bhargava, Mrs.Valsa Williams from Intel, Advocate who has been in open-source years before I was even born, Ajay, Kapil and Niyam Bhushan who motivated us all regarding freed. I would like ILUG members to come and share their thoughts and experiences with the whole of NSIT as they did with me at the August meet of ILUGD. Looking forward to meeting you again at NSIT campus in Dwarka. Thanks Regards Deepank Gupta ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 8/30/07, Deepank Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG members for a talk on Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT on 5th September, Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. kewl, A lot of people have shown interest to give a talk, can you quickly put done something specific talks you want or we come banging the OSS band to college +1 from my side. -- See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in Linux User #348873 ILUGD General Secretary, GZLUG Moderator RKGIT Alumni(Guiding Light) Software Engineer , UnitedVillages http://gauravmishra.info/blog When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 30/08/2007, Deepank Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG members for a talk on Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT on 5th September, Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. Good show Deepank. As we need to talk about Linux + Freed.In we should restrict the numbers of speechers to two/three. This way more colleges and institutions will get covered. Right now it is Gora, Gaurav and Niyam for NIST? -- Regards, Sudev Barar See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
Hi, @Sudev : Thats great. @Gaurav : We would like to have the talk concentrating on the methods by which open source development is done and how we as students can involve ourselves with the open-source development. Gaurav, you yourself can give your example of how you got a job with Dinesh in United Villages through open-source. In addition to that, Dr. Gora will definitely want to talk about the localization of Linux in Indian languages. Regards Deepank. On 30/08/2007, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/08/2007, Deepank Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG members for a talk on Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT on 5th September, Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. Good show Deepank. As we need to talk about Linux + Freed.In we should restrict the numbers of speechers to two/three. This way more colleges and institutions will get covered. Right now it is Gora, Gaurav and Niyam for NIST? -- Regards, Sudev Barar See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Eschew Obfuscation ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 8/30/07, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/08/2007, Deepank Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG members for a talk on Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT on 5th September, Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. Good show Deepank. As we need to talk about Linux + Freed.In we should restrict the numbers of speechers to two/three. This way more colleges and institutions will get covered. Right now it is Gora, Gaurav and Niyam for NIST? Ummm.. It's NSIT (Netaji Subhas Institute of technology), not NIST :) -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Seeking Advice over OpenSource RCS
We need a Web Interface to CVSNT, where -people can browse the CVS repository tree, in browser (XHTML/CSS/Javascript), and also committers who have the access (usernme/password) can commit their work through the browser. The question arises, why not to give access the repository using cvs clients. Since we are going to make the cvsnt repository access available to public, we have to setup the webserver and services to another computer which will access the local folder where remote cvs repository will be mounted using samba. You could give web access for repository browsing. With regards to commits I still dont get why u cant allow clients. Now, We did some search over the existing solution, but we cannt find any cvs to web package which will allow files and folder's commit available through the web-browser. So now, people here are along with many sub-projects to achieve this. So now these are the challenges which we are trying to find: With regards to svn, have been using for about 4-5 months and havent encountered too many problems with it: 1. Migration from one OS to other isnt too much of a problem if u use proper file system for ur repository. http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch05s03.html#svn-ch-5-sect-3.5 2. Repository browsing web interfaces are easily available and are easy to deploy with ur repo: http://www.viewvc.org/ - Seems like the most popular one. http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/apds05.html - Other tools If u use eclipse for java development, then another point in favor of svn is the eclipse plugin for svn is quite mature and featureful. See http://subclipse.tigris.org/ Also the following is a view on SVN migration from cvs, security n all. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/svn.htmlhttp://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/%7Esgtatham/svn.html - What are the complexity in migrating cvsnt repository on windows server 2003 to cvs (linux). - What are the complexity in migrating CVSNT repository on WINDOWS 2003 server to svn wndows/linux. - Which Revision control system would be the best in this condition if we want to migrate, CVS (linux/windows), SVN, Bazaar (BZR) or any other. - Can cvsnt be extended by any method, existing or any idea which can be worked on (like creating an interface to do so if possible). - Can cvs be extended to such, on Linux? any workarounds - Does svn or bzr have such things. extend what? etc. Goal to achieve: - Web Interface which can let user authenticate, and then browse the cvs tree, and user can download the modules. - Committing modules (edited or new) to cvs repo. - uploading multiple files (optionally by taking input the directory path in browser file upload text input box, which would upload all the files in directory. Please show us some light. If development is needed in such direction, we can do it provided the idea to achieve seems good one. All members in group are PHP, Perl, Java programmers, so we cannt work on C++ (limitation). I am desperately looking forward for you people's suggestion, and better ideas. Thanks -- Ravi Shanker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Hope it helps -- Puneet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
Hi Deepank, I can talk about legal issues relating to open source/ copyright that I would be covering in Freed.in. Thanks Kamal Dave --- Deepank Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, @Sudev : Thats great. @Gaurav : We would like to have the talk concentrating on the methods by which open source development is done and how we as students can involve ourselves with the open-source development. Gaurav, you yourself can give your example of how you got a job with Dinesh in United Villages through open-source. In addition to that, Dr. Gora will definitely want to talk about the localization of Linux in Indian languages. Regards Deepank. On 30/08/2007, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/08/2007, Deepank Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I, a student at NSIT, would like to invite ILUG members for a talk on Linux in general and freed in particular at NSIT on 5th September, Wednesday, 3:30 - 5:30 P.M. Good show Deepank. As we need to talk about Linux + Freed.In we should restrict the numbers of speechers to two/three. This way more colleges and institutions will get covered. Right now it is Gora, Gaurav and Niyam for NIST? -- Regards, Sudev Barar See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Eschew Obfuscation ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 52, Issue 23
Dear Gaurav, Raj, Kishore, I am unable to register at www.freed.in as the same points to improper site.I would like to give talks on Legal issues pertaining to Opensource - Copyright, GNU GPL Version 3 Kamal Dave Advocate -- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:23:43 +0530 From: Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] [CROSS-POST] freed.in 2007 call for papers To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Freedel is now freed.in! Paper submissions are now open, please see bottom of mail for URL's. freed.in - New Delhi 2007 - September 28-29 freed.in isn't just a Linux conference. It is a technical conference about Free Software and related topics, held annually in New Delhi. We invite submissions on any Free Software related subject; from Linux and the BSDs to OpenOffice.org, from networking to audio-visual magic, from deep hacks to Creative Commons. Important dates * Submissions open: July 15, 2007 * Submission deadline: August 13, 2007 * Email notifications from review committee: August 20, 2007 * Conference begins: September 28, 2007 Presentations being accepted We are accepting proposals for two different types of presentation: you can submit a proposal for a talk or a tutorial. If in doubt, you want to submit a talk proposal rather than a tutorial proposal. Call for Papers Talks are the main part of the conference: a series of presentations on Free Software related subjects. This year there will be 20-30 presentations. Presenters will be given a 50 minute slot, which includes up to 10 minutes for questions. The main programme also has 8 tutorial slots. Tutorials are longer and more interactive presentations, with slots lasting for 160 minutes, giving the speaker time to interact with the audience. Proposals for tutorials should be clear about the level of expertise required of the audience. Most presentations and tutorials will be technical in nature, but proposals for presentations on other aspects of Free Software and Free Culture, such as educational and cultural aspects are welcome. Topics Submissions related to the following topics are welcome: * General Papers (very strict accept policy!) * System Administration * Collaboration and Communication * Scientific and Research Tools * Native Language Computing * Legal Aspects of FLOSS The main site for the conference: http://freed.in/ Conference registration and paper submission site: http://conf.freed.in/ Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have any questions. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur ? ? ? ? ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? http://kandalaya.org/ ? ? ? ?GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 ?0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? It is the mind that moves-- _ Download the latest version of Windows Live Messenger NOW! http://get.live.com/en-ie/messenger/overview ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Seeking Advice over OpenSource RCS
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 18:55 +0530, Puneet Lakhina wrote: We need a Web Interface to CVSNT, where -people can browse the CVS repository tree, in browser (XHTML/CSS/Javascript), and also committers who have the access (usernme/password) can commit their work through the browser. The question arises, why not to give access the repository using cvs clients. Since we are going to make the cvsnt repository access available to public, we have to setup the webserver and services to another computer which will access the local folder where remote cvs repository will be mounted using samba. You could give web access for repository browsing. With regards to commits I still dont get why u cant allow clients. Now, We did some search over the existing solution, but we cannt find any cvs to web package which will allow files and folder's commit available through the web-browser. So now, people here are along with many sub-projects to achieve this. So now these are the challenges which we are trying to find: With regards to svn, have been using for about 4-5 months and havent encountered too many problems with it: 1. Migration from one OS to other isnt too much of a problem if u use proper file system for ur repository. http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch05s03.html#svn-ch-5-sect-3.5 2. Repository browsing web interfaces are easily available and are easy to deploy with ur repo: http://www.viewvc.org/ - Seems like the most popular one. http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/apds05.html - Other tools If u use eclipse for java development, then another point in favor of svn is the eclipse plugin for svn is quite mature and featureful. See http://subclipse.tigris.org/ Also the following is a view on SVN migration from cvs, security n all. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/svn.htmlhttp://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/%7Esgtatham/svn.html - What are the complexity in migrating cvsnt repository on windows server 2003 to cvs (linux). - What are the complexity in migrating CVSNT repository on WINDOWS 2003 server to svn wndows/linux. - Which Revision control system would be the best in this condition if we want to migrate, CVS (linux/windows), SVN, Bazaar (BZR) or any other. - Can cvsnt be extended by any method, existing or any idea which can be worked on (like creating an interface to do so if possible). - Can cvs be extended to such, on Linux? any workarounds - Does svn or bzr have such things. -extend what? Extending the functionality of CVSNT, means getting it over web-interface. etc. Goal to achieve: - Web Interface which can let user authenticate, and then browse the cvs tree, and user can download the modules. - Committing modules (edited or new) to cvs repo. - uploading multiple files (optionally by taking input the directory path in browser file upload text input box, which would upload all the files in directory. Please show us some light. If development is needed in such direction, we can do it provided the idea to achieve seems good one. All members in group are PHP, Perl, Java programmers, so we cannt work on C++ (limitation). I am desperately looking forward for you people's suggestion, and better ideas. Thanks -- Ravi Shanker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Hope it helps OK, I have found a hope, need to work on it. :) There is a Java library to access CVS repository. Right now we are preparing reports seperately over different feasible solutions to achieve the goal (getting RCS over Web with most features and actions supported.) The Java library is javaCVS.netbeans.org Its opensource, developed primarily for Netbeans, its dependecy is zero, means no other package nd to work on. It follows standard CVS specifications, so right now I am researching over its compatibility with CVSNT, since many commands in CVSNT is new and not compatible with CVS. I am working on the feasibility of using this java cvs client library to create a web application (in Java) and then using JSP create the Interface to web. Still, I have many things to do. Like what about the sandbox, should I create a virtual sandbox, where a person has to first import the module and the dowbload to his machine. I think I will have to go in CVS internals pretty much to understand the thing. Only one thing is majorly obstructing me, there is no full-docs of javacvs client library. can any Java guy help me out. If we work on the this project, it will too will Opensource,. :) Have anyone experience with cvs2svn package, which is used to convert a CVS repository into SVN and keeps the
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
[snip] In addition to that, Dr. Gora will definitely want to talk about the localization of Linux in Indian languages. Regards Deepank. Dr. Gora? n ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 52, Issue 23
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 21:27 +0530, Kamal Dave wrote: Dear Gaurav, Raj, Kishore, I am unable to register at www.freed.in as the same points to improper site.I would like to give talks on Legal issues pertaining to Opensource - Copyright, GNU GPL Version 3 [...] As the very message that you quote mentions, the correct site to register for a talk is http://conf.freed.in Registration instructions are at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Freedel2007/ConferenceRegistrationHOWTO Both sites are having some temporary problems, but should be back online soon. In addition to a title, you will also need to submit an abstract for the talk. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
Hi Kamal, It is really great that you have offered to volunteer for a talk at NSIT. You can really help us decide which licenses to choose while starting up our own software projects. Often, many new startups face problems related to licenses, and who would be more qualified than you to give advise to startups in legal matters. But I do not think that it will be a right idea to get students into legal details of open-source as although it makes up a great topic to hear to for a 3rd or a 4th year student, a 1st year may feel lost in the talk. Moreover, it would be unfair to squeeze in 4 talks in a span of 2 hours. If you will be willing, we will schedule a talk solely on legal issues relating to open-source later in this semester. @Linuxlingam : Have I made a mistake in addressing Gora Mohanty as a doctor. I would like to apologise for the misunderstanding. Thanks to all for the wonderful response from the ILUG community. Regards Deepank. On 30/08/2007, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] In addition to that, Dr. Gora will definitely want to talk about the localization of Linux in Indian languages. Regards Deepank. Dr. Gora? n ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Eschew Obfuscation ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Memo to Microsoft: Stop wasting our time! (Venky Hariharan's blog...)
http://osindia.blogspot.com/2007/08/memo-to-microsoft-stop-wasting-our-time.html Feedback to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, August 30, 2007 Memo to Microsoft: Stop wasting our time! Finally word is out and the Bureau of Indian Standards has confirmed that it will be submitting a No with comments vote to International Standards Organization on Microsoft's OOXML proposal. This brings to a temporary close five to six months of hectic legwork to prevent a sub-standard proposal from getting the coveted tag of an ISO standard. I doubt if Microsoft realises it, but its actions are only making it the Union Carbide of the global IT industry. Microsoft is the world's largest software company but if you flip through their 6000+ pages of OOXML documentation, you'll be justified in wondering how they grew so big if the rest of their work is as shoddy as OOXML. The extremely flawed proposal certainly does not befit its stature in the IT industry. But, does Microsoft learn from all the feedback given to it or does it learn anything from it. No. Humility and Microsoft are like oil and water -- never shall they mix. According to reports coming in from countries that are involved in the ISO vote on OOXML, Microsoft is busy stuffing the ballot boxes. Read Andy Updegrove's blog post The OOXML Vote: How Bad Can it Get? (Keep Counting). Originally, only 30 ISO members were supposed to vote on OOXML. However, as the September 2nd date for the final voting comes close, another ten more countries have joined the committee. Updegrove says: As someone who has spent a great part of my life working to support open standards over the past 20 years, I have to say that this is the most egregious, and far-reaching, example of playing the system to the advantage of a single company that I have ever seen. Breathtaking, in fact. That's assuming, of course, that I am right in supposing that all of these newbie countries vote yes. I guess we'll just have to wait and see a few more days to learn whether that assumption is true. Want to place your bets? Sitting here in India, it is difficult to influence countries like Malta, Cyprus, Ecuador, Jamaica, Lebanon, Pakistan, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Uruguay and Venezuela in the two days left before the final votes are submitted, but we shall try. I checked with the IT ministry in Pakistan and brought to their attention that Pakistan is now a P member of ISO which entitles it to vote on OOXML. This was news to them as they were not consulted on the OOXML issue. I hope that Pakistan's vote will be cast only after thoroughly reviewing the arguements for and against OOXML. Coming back to India, I am extremely proud of the fact that my country has voted against this proposal. To accept such a poor document would have been to denigrate the very meaning of standards. The academia, the government bodies, industry organizations and non-profits like the Free Software Foundation spent countless hours debating and discussing this issue. Some of the best brains in India burnt the midnight oli to review this 6000 page proposal and the final consensus was that none of Microsoft's answers to the 201 technical issues raised was found satisfactory. I hope the Microsoft bosses in Redmond take note of this and make a genuine attempt to rectify the issues instead of trying to stuff the ballot boxes. For wasting the collective intellect of India's best IT brains, Microsoft and ECMA must be blacklisted. Just as a person with a bad credit history has to redeem himself or herself before applying for subsequent credit, any standards proposal submitted by these two organizations should be thoughly vetted before it is even accepted for review or voting in India. India has more pressing problems to tackle than OOXML. Therefore, Microsoft, please do us a big favor and stop wasting our time. Next time, do your homework before you submit something to India. PS: This is an old joke in the IT industry and shows how little Microsoft has changed in decades. Q. How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a light bulb? A. None. Microsoft declares Darkness(TM) an industry standard. End of forward... -- Frederick Noronha Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P: +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Yahoo: fredericknoronha Skype: fredericknoronha GTalk: fredericknoronha Saligao 403511 Goa India http://www.linkedin.com/in/fredericknoronha ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
Hi, - On 8/30/07, Deepank Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | But I do not think that it will be a right idea to get students into | legal details of open-source as although it makes up a great topic to | hear to for a 3rd or a 4th year student, a 1st year may feel lost in | the talk. \-- Actually, you should. But, it should be addressed in a way that is applicable to students. 1. They need to understand what licenses and copyright are. Why it is copyright infringement if they copy their senior's final year thesis or copy text from books without quoting any references, and submit it as their final year project thesis. Also, the relevance to software licenses, and use of GPL, and documentation licenses like FDL, CC etc. in FOSS projects. 2. But, it should be made as a brief talk, just emphasizing what they should know, so they understand the importance of it and its implications. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] net connection on linux
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 09:23 -0800, Ishant Varshney wrote: Q. ) i have linux installed on my system along with winxp but i don't have a lan card so my internet connection is through USB port the problem is that i am able to connect internet through winxp but can't do it through linux so whats the procedure to install modem or is there any other way to connect to net on linux (i have dataone connection) You are quite unlikely to get any kind of a response, as you give people almost nothing to try and help you with. Please do not take it otherwise, but it might help to read Eric Raymond's write-up on this issue, at http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html . At the minimum, you will need to describe what Linux distribution you used, what kind of modem you have (manufacturer, model no., etc.), and what have you tried, and what the error messages, if any were. Incidentally, searching Google is quite likely to lead you to helpful material. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 30-Aug-07, at 10:34 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: Dr. Gora? Herr Doktor? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On 31-Aug-07, at 12:45 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: as their final year project thesis. Also, the relevance to software licenses, and use of GPL, BSD, ASL, APL, MPL, MIT ... -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] net connection on linux
On 31-Aug-07, at 1:42 AM, Gora Mohanty wrote: You are quite unlikely to get any kind of a response, as you give people almost nothing to try and help you with. Please do not take it otherwise, but it might help to read Eric Raymond's write-up on this issue, at http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html . cmon - he has given sufficient material. BSNL dataone through USB - which distro supports it? AFAIK none - and he has been answered also. At the minimum, you will need to describe what Linux distribution you used, what kind of modem you have (manufacturer, model no., etc.), and what have you tried, and what the error messages, if any were. Incidentally, searching Google is quite likely to lead you to helpful material. not necessary - see above (before answering a thread, please look at all the other answers first) The question this thread has reached is: has anyone done a USB connection from linux to dataone? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
On Friday 31 August 2007 00:45, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, - On 8/30/07, Deepank Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | But I do not think that it will be a right idea to get students | into legal details of open-source as although it makes up a great | topic to hear to for a 3rd or a 4th year student, a 1st year may | feel lost in the talk. \-- Nice quoting ;) Actually, you should. But, it should be addressed in a way that is applicable to students. 1. They need to understand what licenses and copyright are. Why it is copyright infringement if they copy their senior's final year thesis or copy text from books without quoting any references, and submit it as their final year project thesis. Also, the relevance to software [snip] Actually if your senior gives you permission to copy his/her thesis it's not a copyright violation. It may, however, be deprecated for other reasons (plagiarism, etc.). Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology Software || September 2007 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] freed.in -- resubmission of talks
Hi, Due to a massive data loss on the server, we've lost some of the details of the talks submitted at http://conf.freed.in/ . Information is still available, but not on the web site anymore. If you had registered and submitted a talk, please check if your talk is still available at the site; if not, please re-register and re-submit the talk. Apologies for the inconvenience, and thanks in advance for your cooperation :) Regards, -- Raju (I KNEW I should have used Vistula) Mathur -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology Software || September 2007 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation for a talk at NSIT
- Original Message From: Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dr. Gora? n Thats what his business card normally says! With Warm Regards, Shivkumar linux user no: 450769 blog: outbackwifi.blogspot.com website: www.outbackwifi.com See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in; Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
