Re: [ilugd] [OT] : Y! Messenger project

2008-02-12 Thread Ravi Kumar
 When I see your emails coming from gmail (assuming you were at work at
 the time) and this discussion about trying to limit file transfer
 features.. it just seems.. contradictory.  No offense to you or your
 company but that's just how it seems.

 --
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yes right, employees cannot open the external emails, such as gmail and
yahoo.. the ISA does that. Now, someone at a little high position, and being
trusted are granted those accessess on request.

I am sending mails from my workplace, since I am trusted, and the other
reason is my single Ubuntu box in all over office (everyone has Windows on
their desktop) doesn't work well  under AD authentication and ISA. I cannot
get to svn etc outside the corporate perimeter. thats why i am given access.


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Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS

2008-02-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 12-Feb-08, at 7:15 PM, Piyush Kumar wrote:

 Yeah, there is no common Place or foss content (In India esp.)

http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/


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Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS

2008-02-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 12-Feb-08, at 6:18 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:

 Please suggest me a CMS which suits for this requirement.
 I am trying Drupal.
 But dont know what modules to add.

try plone - ultra stable, secure and has everything under the sun


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Re: [ilugd] fossconf update

2008-02-12 Thread Sudev Barar
On 13/02/2008, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fossconf took place in Chennai on Feb 1 - 3 2008. There were around
 100 talks, 40 demo stalls with student projects done in FOSS and
 tutorial sessions. The attendance was around 700 on the first day,
 1500-2000 on the second day and around 600 on the third day. About

Cool and good attendance.

 The event was pretty chaotic at times since all of us were n00bs at
 conducting conferences. Many speakers had a rough time. In spite of
 the huge attendance, poor logistics lead to many talks having a very
 thin audience. But by and large, the feedback we have got has been
 positive.

As long as this is positive everything else is worth the effort.

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Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS

2008-02-12 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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| now, I need a CMS - Content Management System.
|
| Requirement is
| 1. multi user
| 2. every user can upload files on any format
| 3. email notification on new file arrival to all users
| 4. search
| 5. download link
| 6. if file is video or audio play it online.
| 7. list file by user, type, tag, category etc.

http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ allows you to see how various CMS match up.
Given that you have more or less narrowed down the requirement
specification, you should be able to figure out what you need

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Re: [ilugd] Internet Politics

2008-02-12 Thread Sriram J
can some one also post the links that prove that 9/11 was an inside job.
i would really like to spend the rest of my day reading about conspiracy
theories including the real reason why mahatma gandhi was killed.
i also found out that the real reason i could not access my office mail id
 is that egyptians refused to bow down to israeli demands.

On 2/12/08, Mani A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Connecting The Many Undersea Cut Cable Dots -by Richard Sauder

 http://www.pragoti.org/pragoti/news_detail.php?news_id=545
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[ilugd] Save web page to image

2008-02-12 Thread Raj Mathur
Hi,

Wondering if there was some way to get a web page saved to an image from 
the command line?  I'm looking for some set of tools that could render 
and save the page as an image without interaction from the user.

One that would work without X preferred, but in a pinch X-based will do 
too.

FOSS only, please :)

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [TAG] Version control for /etc]

2008-02-12 Thread Raj Shekhar
in infinite wisdom Manish spoke thus  On 02/12/2008 07:28 PM:
 On Feb 12, 2008 6:41 PM, Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 What was the question again?
 

My mail was a forward from another mailing list - the question was


I was looking at version control mechanisms to handle /etc
on the machines here. If people on TAG have used such systems I would
appreciate feedback.

CVS: seems to be the classic solution. Cons: People say it is old and
unmaintained code which is end-of-life.

Mercurial: One of the modern VC systems considered notable on
Rick Moen's knowledge base. One difficulty with hg is that it
insists on the distributed model. Putting the version control
history outside /etc (a la CVS) would require convoluted mounts.

GIT: Another modern VC system (though not notable as per Rick's
kb). It is rather similar to Mercurial in many ways. One difference
is that one can use the environment variable GIT_DIR to point to a
different directory for storing VC history.

Some reasons to keep VC history outside /etc:
1. This way one can easily check for cruft without
   adding an explicit ignore for .hg or .git ...
2. Uses less space in /etc.
3. Can keep the history on an archival disk safe from
   potential corruption.

Any thoughts/suggestions by people on TAG are welcome as usual!

Regards,

Kapil.
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Re: [ilugd] BITS Linux Users Club - 2

2008-02-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 13-Feb-08, at 2:43 AM, Phaneendra wrote:

  We are facing a few limitations in organizing the
 events.Specifically financial.All the contacts we have gathered are
 local, i.e. in and near pilani, which as everyone knows is a small
 town and lacks effective resources.We are looking for printing big
 banners(may be a biggg  TUX poster),burning cds and some other
 linux goodies(T-shirts).Also are planning on distributing
 CathedralBazaar and some other pamphlets,may be quick HowTos.

Nice to see your initiative. NRC-FOSS would be interested in  
interacting with you to spread FOSS in your area. There is already a  
pretty active FOSS community in rajasthan at MNIT, Jaipur. You could/ 
should contact them. Check out what NRC-FOSS does in the link in my  
sig. If you want to interact further please contact me offlist


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[ilugd] fossconf update

2008-02-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
Hi,

Fossconf took place in Chennai on Feb 1 - 3 2008. There were around  
100 talks, 40 demo stalls with student projects done in FOSS and  
tutorial sessions. The attendance was around 700 on the first day,  
1500-2000 on the second day and around 600 on the third day. About  
80% of the audience were engineering college students. Volunteers and  
student projects came from engineering colleges in Chennai as well as  
from colleges in Salem, Madurai, Vellore and Tirunelveli. Most of the  
speakers were first time speakers, and although the bulk of them were  
from Tamilnadu, we had speakers from Mumbai, Bengaluru, Pune,  
Hyderabad, Goa, Trivandrum and Nellore. We also had a large number of  
speakers from the academic community who were participating in a FOSS  
event for the first time.

The event was pretty chaotic at times since all of us were n00bs at  
conducting conferences. Many speakers had a rough time. In spite of  
the huge attendance, poor logistics lead to many talks having a very  
thin audience. But by and large, the feedback we have got has been  
positive.

We thank those members of your LUG who helped out in the event and  
gave us support. We hope to see more of you at Fossconf 09

You may browse the slides here:
http://registration.fossconf.in/web/browseslides/

-- 
regards

Kenneth Gonsalves
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Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS

2008-02-12 Thread नोरत
On 12/02/2008, Shrinivasan T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Friends.

 We all prepare documents, presentations, videos, screencasts, podcasts
 on Linux and other Free Open Source Software.

 There is no common website where can we upload them all.

 So, I wish to make a one.
 I bought the space.

 now, I need a CMS - Content Management System.

 Requirement is
 1. multi user
 2. every user can upload files on any format
 3. email notification on new file arrival to all users
 4. search
 5. download link
 6. if file is video or audio play it online.
 7. list file by user, type, tag, category etc.

 Please suggest me a CMS which suits for this requirement.
 I am trying Drupal.
 But dont know what modules to add.

 waiting for your suggestions.

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  drupal is best solution of cms

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Re: [ilugd] Save web page to image

2008-02-12 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Feb 12, 2008 9:20 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wondering if there was some way to get a web page saved to an image from
 the command line?  I'm looking for some set of tools that could render
 and save the page as an image without interaction from the user.

 One that would work without X preferred, but in a pinch X-based will do
 too.

 FOSS only, please :)

wget + htmldoc + imagemagick?
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[ilugd] BITS Linux Users Club - 2

2008-02-12 Thread Phaneendra
   Thanks everyone for your encouragement and advice.Regarding
our TechFest (11-14th March'08) we have planned the following two
events :

1).A Quiz on Linux and OpenSource

2).An Exhibition of Linux distros

  We have an active local forum ,and are mirroring
Ubuntu repository locally.We are also planning on a local wiki, and an
official local irc.If we succeed, we will be able to convince the
administration to make it visible from outside.We have few more plans
in the future, which include an active OpenSource development
community and a self customized Linux Distro.

 We are facing a few limitations in organizing the
events.Specifically financial.All the contacts we have gathered are
local, i.e. in and near pilani, which as everyone knows is a small
town and lacks effective resources.We are looking for printing big
banners(may be a biggg  TUX poster),burning cds and some other
linux goodies(T-shirts).Also are planning on distributing
CathedralBazaar and some other pamphlets,may be quick HowTos.

 Any help on these matters will be sincerely appreciated.


  Thanking You,

  Rama Krishna Phaneendra

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[ilugd] BITS Linux Users Club - 2

2008-02-12 Thread Phaneendra


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[ilugd] Internet Politics

2008-02-12 Thread Mani A
Connecting The Many Undersea Cut Cable Dots -by Richard Sauder

http://www.pragoti.org/pragoti/news_detail.php?news_id=545
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/ConnectingTheDots.htm


Best

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Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [TAG] Version control for /etc]

2008-02-12 Thread Alok G. Singh
On 12 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was looking at version control mechanisms to handle /etc
 on the machines here.

Personally, I use RCS to version /etc. No setup required and there's
Emacs integration as well.

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Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS

2008-02-12 Thread Pratul Kalia
 Yeah, there is no common Place or foss content (In India esp.)


Well, then let me introduce you to TechJugaad.com
Why dont you go and check it out? Its still under development, its on
Drupal, and the devels just might share your goal.

And yeah, Im the lead developer :)

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Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS

2008-02-12 Thread Shekhar Govindarajan
Alfresco (www.alfresco.com) with Web CMS Extension. 

Shekhar


On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 18:18 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote:
 Friends.
 
 We all prepare documents, presentations, videos, screencasts, podcasts
 on Linux and other Free Open Source Software.
 
 There is no common website where can we upload them all.
 
 So, I wish to make a one.
 I bought the space.
 
 now, I need a CMS - Content Management System.
 
 Requirement is
 1. multi user
 2. every user can upload files on any format
 3. email notification on new file arrival to all users
 4. search
 5. download link
 6. if file is video or audio play it online.
 7. list file by user, type, tag, category etc.
 
 Please suggest me a CMS which suits for this requirement.
 I am trying Drupal.
 But dont know what modules to add.
 
 waiting for your suggestions.
 


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Re: [ilugd] SATA Disk not detected at time of installation

2008-02-12 Thread prabhat rishi
Hi,
Please use this commands at the time of installation:

linux all-generic-ide noapic nolapic

Regards,

Prabhat
RHCE


On Feb 12, 2008 10:42 AM, Lokesh Bhog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Please let me know if there are know issues with installing RHEL 3.0 on
 SATA Disk ST3160215AS  160GB  - Has any one tried installing Linux using
 this hard disk - which version of Linux supports this?

 I am not able to dectect hard disk at the time of installation.

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Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS

2008-02-12 Thread Piyush Kumar
Drupal ..fever says http://drupal.org/

Yeah, there is no common Place or foss content (In India esp.)

-Piyush

On Feb 12, 2008 6:54 PM, Pratul Kalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  We all prepare documents, presentations, videos, screencasts, podcasts
  on Linux and other Free Open Source Software.
 
  There is no common website where can we upload them all.
  now, I need a CMS - Content Management System.

 Are you making a community-based FOSS enthusiasts website? Something
 generic for Indian FOSS users?

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[ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [TAG] Version control for /etc]

2008-02-12 Thread Raj Shekhar


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[ilugd] suggest a CMS

2008-02-12 Thread Shrinivasan T
Friends.

We all prepare documents, presentations, videos, screencasts, podcasts
on Linux and other Free Open Source Software.

There is no common website where can we upload them all.

So, I wish to make a one.
I bought the space.

now, I need a CMS - Content Management System.

Requirement is
1. multi user
2. every user can upload files on any format
3. email notification on new file arrival to all users
4. search
5. download link
6. if file is video or audio play it online.
7. list file by user, type, tag, category etc.

Please suggest me a CMS which suits for this requirement.
I am trying Drupal.
But dont know what modules to add.

waiting for your suggestions.

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Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS

2008-02-12 Thread Pratul Kalia
 We all prepare documents, presentations, videos, screencasts, podcasts
 on Linux and other Free Open Source Software.

 There is no common website where can we upload them all.
 now, I need a CMS - Content Management System.

Are you making a community-based FOSS enthusiasts website? Something
generic for Indian FOSS users?

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] : Y! Messenger project

2008-02-12 Thread Manish
On Feb 12, 2008 11:18 AM, Ravi Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   No, mails can be sent to anywhere, but when you breach security by
  sending
   mails-attachments(docs) outside the trusted list of domains, then it is
   easily filtered by administrator, who can watch in archive for the sent
   attachments.
 
  Hmm.  And accessing non-work emails like gmail at work ;) ?  Sorry for
  splitting hairs but the fundamental logic seemed flawed hence these
  questions to clarify understanding.
 
 
 I can't  figure out what's bubbling in your beautiful mind. Please make it
 clear. Where do you doubt, and most prominently how do you doubt, rather
 than saying the logic seems flawed.


Heh.  I often wonder the utility of trying to limit functionality of a
useful piece of software in the name of policy/security.  I have seen
this being done numerous times in an attempt to appease/impress some
customers or higher management.  IMHO, trying to lock down
features/functionalities only has net impact on the end-user
productivity and just makes people look for ways to outsmart them.  I
am not implying that security should not be paid attention to.  On the
contrary, if there has to be a lockdown, then it should be
comprehensive.

When I see your emails coming from gmail (assuming you were at work at
the time) and this discussion about trying to limit file transfer
features.. it just seems.. contradictory.  No offense to you or your
company but that's just how it seems.

-- 
Manish

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Re: [ilugd] Save web page to image

2008-02-12 Thread Raj Mathur
On Wednesday 13 Feb 2008, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote:
 On Feb 12, 2008 9:20 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wondering if there was some way to get a web page saved to an image
  from the command line?  I'm looking for some set of tools that
  could render and save the page as an image without interaction from
  the user.
 
  One that would work without X preferred, but in a pinch X-based
  will do too.
 
  FOSS only, please :)

 wget + htmldoc + imagemagick?

Hmm, that doesn't seem to do style sheets and images.  Or am I missing 
something?

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] Save web page to image

2008-02-12 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 12:41 +0530, Raj Mathur wrote:
[...]
 Hmm, that doesn't seem to do style sheets and images.  Or am I missing 
 something?
[...]

If you want the page rendered first, try the Save As
Image Firefox extension:
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/3408
Never actually used it though.

You could probably even script Firefox to run this
from the command line.

Regards,
Gora


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Re: [ilugd] Save web page to image

2008-02-12 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Feb 12, 2008 11:11 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmm, that doesn't seem to do style sheets and images.  Or am I missing
 something?

You need to look at the man page for wget :-)
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Re: [ilugd] Save web page to image

2008-02-12 Thread pj
Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Wondering if there was some way to get a web page saved to an image from 
 the command line?  I'm looking for some set of tools that could render 
 and save the page as an image without interaction from the user.
 
 One that would work without X preferred, but in a pinch X-based will do 
 too.
 

For non-x:

links2 with snapscreenshot (http://bisqwit.iki.fi/source/snapscreenshot.html),
should do it but I haven't tried it.

Within x I'd maybe mangle together xwd with -nobdrs,throwing in xwininfo
(applied to firefox) to extract firefox's window id from it followed by convert
(- from imagemagick). Not sure if it can be done at that conveniently high
level though and how you'd hide the firefox shenanigans (send to dummy display
driver?). There is apparently a headless firefox around for this sort of thing.

Let me know how you do it in the end.

PJ



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