Re: [ilugd] kernel Programming

2009-10-27 Thread Pranith Kumar
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Chirag Anand anand.chi...@gmail.comwrote:


 Well, I have done some Linux kernel programming when I was working for
 Glendix
 for some time. I was trying to add another system call to the existing
 Linux
 kernel to help run the user space programs of Plan9 operating system.

 If you are interested in kernel programming, just dig into the code, see
 what
 all is happening, plan what you want to do/change and make a patch for it.
 For example, you want to make another system call, read the kernel docs
 where
 the system calls code resides, how they work and how can you change them
 etc.

 There is a lot of community support in Linux kernel especially on
 newsgroups
 and IRC. And of course, we all are here, in case you need some help
 (hopefully
 we'll be able to help you). :)



Well, I guess the main task will be to find something meaningful project.

Also as you said there are a lot of resources and that can be pretty
confusing :)
As for me, I am currently reading about file systems. Am going through tux3
code
and will hopefully start coding soon.

What about others? Any plans as such?

Thanks,
-- 
Pranith.
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Re: [ilugd] kernel Programming

2009-10-27 Thread Rahul Bhargava
 As for me, I am currently reading about file systems. Am going through tux3
 code and will hopefully start coding soon.

 What about others? Any plans as such?

fscops (OHSM - Online Hierarchical Storage Manager ) is an interesting
filesystem project.

http://code.google.com/p/fscops/

Rahul

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Re: [ilugd] DoT wants verification of Internet users online

2009-10-27 Thread Mehul Ved
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Nishant Sharma
codemarau...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 Hi,

 Found this news on Rediff:
 http://business.rediff.com/report/2009/oct/26/verify-internet-users-online-says-dot.htm

Not exactly to the same thing but in line with the above news.
Few months ago my ISP, Hathway, did send a notice to everyone to
provide details about their wireless routers, if they are using one.
According to the notice, they were doing it on the basis of a TRAI
directive. I refused to divulge the details of my wireless router till
they sent me a copy of the TRAI directive stating the same. They
couldn't provide me with the same and disconnected my connection for a
while, till I called up their customer care and asked to refund my
money for the month as they had disconnected my connection. After that
it was promptly started and I haven't heard from them again.

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Re: [ilugd] DoT wants verification of Internet users online

2009-10-27 Thread PJ
Nishant Sharma codemarau...@... writes:

[from the news]
 Aiming at preventing the misuse of Wi-Fi connectivity by unauthorised users,
the department of
 telecommunications has directed all telecom service providers to implement an
online centralised
 authentication procedure for Internet subscribers.

Sounds like a reaction to one of the Bombay attacks where an American had an
open wifi that was used to send a terrorist message by a bomb conspirator.

That the American fled the country rather than waiting for the courts to declare
his innocence says plenty about the Indian court system.

(That he managed to flee the country despite being watched says a lot about the
state of India generally too, of course).

From the report, it seems the open wifi problem is still going to be around (it
isn't dealt with by the measure). Centralized authentication (?) isn't solving
authentication or location-of-subscriber better than current authentication
methods either. They must mean centralized logging rather than authentication,
that's my guess.

Anyway, the centralized authentication procedure (or whatever it really ends
up being), like many India systems, well need proper accountability built in to
the process to prevent its abuse.

Eg:

Mohammed! You are the registered owner of this connection from where a claim of
responsibility for the recent bomb blast originated!

But I haven't claimed that and I am the only person using the connection, and
my system is heavily secured! There's no way it can be originating from me!

OK, then, just pay me 25 lakh and we'll forget about it. Else I'll grind you
and your beard through the courts and everyone will think you're a terrorist.

PJ

(hmmm. spooky correlations, with these captchas sometimes. This one was
radicalism)



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Re: [ilugd] DoT wants verification of Internet users online

2009-10-27 Thread Tanveer Singh
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:34 PM, PJ pee...@hotpop.com wrote:

 Nishant Sharma codemarau...@... writes:

 [from the news]
  Aiming at preventing the misuse of Wi-Fi connectivity by unauthorised
 users,
 the department of
  telecommunications has directed all telecom service providers to
 implement an
 online centralised
  authentication procedure for Internet subscribers.

 Sounds like a reaction to one of the Bombay attacks where an American had
 an
 open wifi that was used to send a terrorist message by a bomb conspirator.

 I am with the decision. Its excellent. Going by the fundamental right of
equality this should be enforced for everybody. So you should no longer be
allowed to put a letter in the letter box without verification.
All post should be registered post.
Since people can speak and communicate, before uttering a word, police
verification should be done too!
 Welcome to 1984
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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi

2009-10-27 Thread PJ
Alok G. Singh alephn...@... writes:

 
 Oui, à la fois, monsieur :)

Seeing two responses already, I'm delighted to see that linux sysadmin support
is getting popular.

Do write in occasionally to let the list now about any interesting problems
faced etc (if any). I expect it to be a kickass migration.

PJ
lug dot delhi dot peejay at spamgourmet dot com



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Re: [ilugd] kernel Programming

2009-10-27 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:59:14 +0530
Pranith Kumar bobby.pr...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
 Well, I guess the main task will be to find something meaningful
 project.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+kernel+programming+projects

In particular, http://kernelnewbies.org/ seems interesting, as
do the suggestions in the answers
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/135637/what-are-some-interesting-small-linux-kernel-projects-to-help-learn-the-source

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] kernel Programming

2009-10-27 Thread Gaurang Aggarwal
+ 1

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Open Linux Tech Center - Freelance 
open.linux.cen...@gmail.com wrote:

 count me too


 On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Chirag Anand anand.chi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Friday 23 October 2009 21:27:47 Pranith Kumar wrote:
   Hello All,
  
   I just wanted to know if there are any kernel developers in our
  community.
  
   It would be nice to have some interactions and discussions if possible.
   Any other person interested to start is also welcome to reply :)
  
   Regards,
  
 
  Well, I have done some Linux kernel programming when I was working for
  Glendix
  for some time. I was trying to add another system call to the existing
  Linux
  kernel to help run the user space programs of Plan9 operating system.
 
  If you are interested in kernel programming, just dig into the code, see
  what
  all is happening, plan what you want to do/change and make a patch for
 it.
  For example, you want to make another system call, read the kernel docs
  where
  the system calls code resides, how they work and how can you change them
  etc.
 
  There is a lot of community support in Linux kernel especially on
  newsgroups
  and IRC. And of course, we all are here, in case you need some help
  (hopefully
  we'll be able to help you). :)
 
  --
  Regards
  Chirag Anand
  Junior Systems Architect
  E2E Networks | http://www.e2enetworks.com
  chirag.an...@e2enetworks.com
 
  Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog
  anything weird is worth a try...
 
 
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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi

2009-10-27 Thread Amit Sharma

Alok G. Singh wrote:

We have an office in Delhi that we'd like to move to Ubuntu in stages. 5
desktops in the first stage. It's a non-profit book publishing
trust[1] and there's no one who knows about Ubuntu. 


We'd like to setup a local mirror (or caching proxy) and most
importantly have someone on hand to help with the initial teething
troubles. This is especially important as there are no geeks in the
office and telephone support doesn't work if the people aren't sure of
what they are doing.

As far as the scope of the migration goes, at this stage, it's just
getting people use Firefox instead of IE and Openoffice instead of MS
Office.
  


Just a question. Why Ubuntu? Why not openSUSE?

--amit

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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi

2009-10-27 Thread Kanishk Singh
Why not OpenSUSE..? instead of ubuntu..?
my guess..ubuntu is preetty much easier to learn, wide user base in comparison 
to OpenSUSE.
Easy package management, clean interface in approx. everything will definitely 
make newbies comfortable in using/learning: how to use linux effectively. 


--- On Tue, 10/27/09, Amit Sharma amitsharm...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Amit Sharma amitsharm...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:19 PM

Alok G. Singh wrote:
 We have an office in Delhi that we'd like to move to Ubuntu in stages. 5
 desktops in the first stage. It's a non-profit book publishing
 trust[1] and there's no one who knows about Ubuntu. 
 We'd like to setup a local mirror (or caching proxy) and most
 importantly have someone on hand to help with the initial teething
 troubles. This is especially important as there are no geeks in the
 office and telephone support doesn't work if the people aren't sure of
 what they are doing.
 
 As far as the scope of the migration goes, at this stage, it's just
 getting people use Firefox instead of IE and Openoffice instead of MS
 Office.
   

Just a question. Why Ubuntu? Why not openSUSE?

--amit

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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi

2009-10-27 Thread Amit Sharma



PJ wrote:

Alok G. Singh alephn...@... writes:

  

Oui, à la fois, monsieur :)



Seeing two responses already, I'm delighted to see that linux sysadmin support
is getting popular.

Do write in occasionally to let the list now about any interesting problems
faced etc (if any). I expect it to be a kickass migration.

  

Sharing My Story . . . .

Migrated about 200 systems from Windows to Linux last year, everything 
was smooth expect the local printers just refused to work with diskless 
machines. I used Kiwi-LTSP on the server. Tried for few days to make it 
work, then just left it as is :(


On the bright side, last week I called that office to check if they are 
still on Linux or slowly (machine by machine, by giving one reason/ 
excuse at a time) reverted to Windows). Glad to hear from them:


  1. The mandatory one in six months or so OS formatting is a thing of
 past.
  2. No issues at all except some trivial issues in using Linux Desktop
 (openSUSE 11.0)
  3. There are still only 8-10 windows machines in 200 desktops.
  4. People (Staff) actually feel proud to tell their family and friend
 that they use Linux in their office and it is as easy as Windows
 without any fear of any virus etc.

regards,
amit

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[ilugd] [X-post] FSMK Newsletter Volume 5

2009-10-27 Thread Vikram Vincent
Dear Friends,

FSMK releasing its fifth consecutive news letter.
URL:- http://fsmk.org/Newsletter_October_2009

We are glad to receive your comments whether it is a criticism or praise..
Write to us and distribute this edition to as many of your contacts as possible.
We welcome you to have your name on one of the articles in the
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[ilugd] Google Caching issues

2009-10-27 Thread saurabh vadhera
Hi Team

I want to take some advice and suggestions from this Group . I am actually
facing a very strange problem these days .

Current Setup : We have two websites hosted on a same linux apache server ,
But they are pointing to two different Ip's and virtual hosts in apache .
These two Domains are also sharing a common Name Server

Problem : When we try to do a google search for Cache:domain Name it
actually opens the page for the other domain name and website , which means
that from google search the site is getting redirected to other domain .
Even though we donot have any redirects at apache level or at the DNS level
too

Please suggest how can i resolve this problem , any help would be really
appreciated

Regds
saurabh
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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi

2009-10-27 Thread Alok G. Singh
Amit Sharma wrote:

 Just a question. Why Ubuntu? Why not openSUSE?

The Ubuntu community. I use Debian myself but I would not expect first
time users to be able to manage on debian-users. 

-- 
Alok


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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi

2009-10-27 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:35:09 +0530
Amit Sharma amitsharm...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
 Migrated about 200 systems from Windows to Linux last year,
 everything was smooth expect the local printers just refused to
 work with diskless machines. I used Kiwi-LTSP on the server.
 Tried for few days to make it work, then just left it as is :(
 
 On the bright side, last week I called that office to check if
 they are still on Linux 
[...]

Wow! This sounds great. Who is maintaining their Linux machines
now?

You should consider writing up your experiences somewhere, and
could probably even approach a magazine like LFY for this.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi

2009-10-27 Thread Vinay Yadav
HI Alok ,
I found ubuntu more easy and stable distro , one thing I like most in ubuntu
is their well maintain repository ,I know opensuse have similar one -click
install {but it always have some issues , whenever i used it i found it not
so smoth as ubuntu }
even Ubuntu hardware support is awesome

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net wrote:

 On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:35:09 +0530
 Amit Sharma amitsharm...@gmail.com wrote:
 [...]
  Migrated about 200 systems from Windows to Linux last year,
  everything was smooth expect the local printers just refused to
  work with diskless machines. I used Kiwi-LTSP on the server.
  Tried for few days to make it work, then just left it as is :(
 
  On the bright side, last week I called that office to check if
  they are still on Linux
 [...]

 Wow! This sounds great. Who is maintaining their Linux machines
 now?

 You should consider writing up your experiences somewhere, and
 could probably even approach a magazine like LFY for this.

 Regards,
 Gora

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