Re: [ilugd] [ilugb] Open Source Web Based Chat
Mibbit [1] can be embedded into your website as a widget, if you are looking for something quick. Footnotes: [1] http://www.mibbit.com/ -- Alok Human beings were created by water to transport it uphill. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi
Amit Sharma wrote: > Just a question. Why Ubuntu? Why not openSUSE? The Ubuntu community. I use Debian myself but I would not expect first time users to be able to manage on debian-users. -- Alok ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi
Oui, à la fois, monsieur :) -- Alok History tends to exaggerate. -- Col. Green, "The Savage Curtain", stardate 5906.4 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [Commercial] Migration to Ubuntu in Delhi
We have an office in Delhi that we'd like to move to Ubuntu in stages. 5 desktops in the first stage. It's a non-profit book publishing trust[1] and there's no one who knows about Ubuntu. We'd like to setup a local mirror (or caching proxy) and most importantly have someone on hand to help with the initial teething troubles. This is especially important as there are no geeks in the office and telephone support doesn't work if the people aren't sure of what they are doing. As far as the scope of the migration goes, at this stage, it's just getting people use Firefox instead of IE and Openoffice instead of MS Office. TIA. Footnotes: [1] http://prathambooks.org/home.htm -- Alok ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] dedicated server - opteron or Core2quad
Karanbir Singh wrote: > however for this sort of a workload, the opterons at the same > specification level as the Core2 would be a better performing setup. Even the newest Xeons ? I thought differently. Would you have any benchmarks to share ? -- Alok ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [TAG] Version control for /etc]
On 12 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was looking at version control mechanisms to handle /etc > on the machines here. Personally, I use RCS to version /etc. No setup required and there's Emacs integration as well. -- Alok The only thing worse than X Windows: (X Windows) - X ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Reading standard input in a bash script
On 29 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am doing it this way now. I read whatever there is on the standard input > into a variable : > > read -d "^d" VAR You could just read from stdin: read -d "^d" <&1 See the I/O redirection [1] chapter of the Advanced bash scripting guide for more details. It is even possible to do random access on a file (probably not on stdin though). Footnotes: [1] http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html -- Alok I don't understand you anymore. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] PHP and CSS editing using emacs
On 26 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am having problems editing php and css files in emacs. nxhtml-mode [1] is by far the most complete web development mode. You need emacs 22 to use it though. If you are using Windows, use the EmacsW32 [2] from ourcomments.org -- it has nxhtml packaged. Either way it is easy to setup and use. It also comes with MuMaMo [3] which will integrate with JSP, CSS and PHP. HTH. Footnotes: [1] http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/NxhtmlMode [2] http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsW32 [3] http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/MuMaMo -- Alok Too much of anything, even love, isn't necessarily a good thing. -- Kirk, "The Trouble with Tribbles", stardate 4525.6 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ps and grep
On 17 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Puneet> I tried ps -elo pid,args|grep "myprocess\\!(grep)" > > The argument of grep is a regular expression (type 3 language), and > there is no way you can do this in a type 3 language. Even 'grep' also > matches 'grep' text when you pass '-v grep' argument to 'grep' command > line, and then only outputs unmatched lines. I used two pipes to eliminates the extraneous grep, until some pointed out that all you need to do it make the regexp different from the matched string, viz. $ ps -e | grep "[m]ysql" Elegant, I thought. -- Alok Why won't sharks eat lawyers? Professional courtesy. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)
On 31 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Wow! Did you document it anywhere? If not, do you remember what the > problem was and how you fixed it? No, I didn't write it down anywhere and I have only the vaguest recollection of the whole episode. But I do know that the problem was what it usually is: depending on some ActiveX control and/or some IE-only JS function. Either that, or some broken code which shouldn't work at all but does on IE. > I can try to write a small userscript to fix the error. Apropos greasemonkey, do you have any active which are interfering with the ICICI website ? I ask because my own personal experience and the experience of others on the list show that ICICI works fine with FF/Iceweasel. Try again with a clean profile, with no extensions ? -- Alok Theory of Selective Supervision: The one time in the day that you lean back and relax is the one time the boss walks through the office. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ICICI Netbanking and Firefox 2.0 (or where to get Firefox 1.5)
On 31 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hmmm, interesting. Why is this happening with me? Consistently. The last time I summonned up the energy to actually find out what was wrong, I installed that iceweasel extension which allows you to see the headers [1] and the webdeveloper extension. But the final insight only came after grovelling through the Javascript code on the page. It takes a reasonable amount of time and effort, but at the end of it you usually know exactly what is wrong. For the record, I have successfully used Iceweasel/Firefox 2.0 for both Netbanking and the payment gateway. This was about a year ago. I no longer have an account with them. Also, firefox 1.5 is available from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases Footnotes: [1] I think it was called Live HTTP headers -- Alok Macho does not prove mucho. -- Zsa Zsa Gabor ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Slow tar
On 26 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How do we use tar with limited resources like some specific cycle of > CPU to use e.g20% CPU, with specified I/O or bandwidth limit e.g > 50MB/s You can limit CPU usage with nice(1). While it sets no bounds on the amount of CPU that is used, it ensure that the process will yield CPU to higher priority tasks. I think this is more in tune with your situation (indeed, most offline backups do use nice). As for the IO throttling, I have no idea. I suspect that the solution will be more involved, either fooling about with the I/O scheduler or modifying tar's source code. -- Alok QOTD: "It's hard to tell whether he has an ace up his sleeve or if the ace is missing from his deck altogether." ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Firefox behaves differently on Linux?
On 12 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is it just me or is it that the shortcut in Firefox for moving > between tabs on Windows is Ctrl+Number Key while on Linux (Ubuntu) > its Alt+Number Key. See http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/keyboard -- Alok "Silent gratitude isn't very much use to anyone." -- G. B. Stearn ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Firefox Already Running Problem
On 9 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there any way to get around this? Like opening this new page as a > new Tab or something. I don't know how this would translate to Windows, but to open stuff in a new tab, I would use, $ iceweasel -remote 'openURL(http://google.com,new-tab)' Or, if you just want to ignore an already running browser, $ iceweasel -no-remote http://google.com # Not on Debian -- Alok You will live to see your grandchildren. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Shell script help
On 1 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > for f in *.cpp; do gc++ $f; done; > mv *.cpp /data/jay/success > mv *.out /data/jay/success You would probably be better served by using a Makefile to compile your code. I would certainly help when your programs are split over more than one compilation unit (files). You can start with 'info make'. 'Managing projects with GNU Make' is an excellent book and is available online through O'Reilly's Safari program. It's definately worth the price in dead-tree form as well. -- Alok You have a deep appreciation of the arts and music. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google earth and open proj on XGL
On 29 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You could also try gcj instead of sun-java. I've had some (but not > all) applications work with gcj-4.2. It appears that you just need: export AWT_TOOLKIT="MToolkit" to fix your Java blank window problems with Sun Java. -- Alok Remember that there is an outside world to see and enjoy. -- Hans Liepmann ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google earth and open proj on XGL
On 25 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Unless you have an ATI card, which is not supported by the FOSS >> Radeon driver, you can stick with AIGLX itself. > Time to get another laptop? As suggested, use AIGLX. AFAIK, XGL is no longer being developed. You could also try gcj instead of sun-java. I've had some (but not all) applications work with gcj-4.2. -- Alok You humans are all alike. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google earth and open proj on XGL
On 25 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Unless you have an ATI card, which is not supported by the FOSS >> Radeon driver, you can stick with AIGLX itself. > Time to get another laptop? As suggested, use AIGLX. AFAIK, XGL is no longer being developed. You could also try gcj instead of sun-java. I've had some (but not all) applications work with gcj-4.2. -- Alok There is no likelihood man can ever tap the power of the atom. -- Robert Millikan, Nobel Prize in Physics, 1923 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Emacs and Indic scripts (was: [Indlinux-hindi] Description of Hindi phonetic rules for aspell)
On 22 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For complex script rendering, see [1]. Cool, I'll soon compile > "emacs-unicode-2". But does it work with only CDAC fonts, or also > with free font like "Lohit Hindi", hmm... ? TIAS, I guess. From the wiki page on complex script rendering, it seems that all indic scripts require it. Since, the 4 scripts I have tried work without a problem, I'd venture the possibility that GNU Emacs (even emacs22) supports it. The problem seems to be with the encoding of the font you are using, I suppose there is a way to fix it, but I don't know how myself. -- Alok Say no, then negotiate. -- Helga ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Indlinux-hindi] Description of Hindi phonetic rules for aspell
> The screenshot of Emacs rendering Devanagari text on my box is > below: http://flickr.com/photos/wahjava/857367020/ > > Do you get similar kind of rendering with CDAC fonts or better than > this ? Here is a an old screenshot [1] that I dug out. This is emacs-mtty, but I don't think it matters much insofar as rendering is concerned. I can see that the Hindi, Kannada, Malayalam and Tamil rendering as correct. >> The emacswiki link cited above has a recipe for setting a fontset >> in your .Xdefaults that worked for me. > > I don't have CDAC fonts, so I've tried setting following font set in > my .Xdefaults: Here [2] are the CDAC fonts. I am not sure about the distributability of the fonts, but since _our_ government funded this, I think we have a right to use them. > -- begin .Xdefaults -- > Emacs.Fontset-0:-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1, > \ chinese-gb2312:-*-fangsong [snipped] I have only the haziest recollection of the loops that are required to render Indic text correctly (afaik, it is still wrong for Kannada on my Debian sid box for everything other than Emacs). > Does emacs-unicode-2 also has support for complex script rendering, > hmm... ? I don't understand what is meant by 'complex script rendering'. I am using self-packaged versions of unicode-2 for my day-to-day work and have yet to encounter a problem in either devanagari-itrans or kannada-itrans. CDAC has recently released a CD containing some software for Indian languages and that CD has a bunch of TTF indic fonts. Most of them are fugly (imho), but if you want I can put them up somewhere. Of course, this means that you have to use unicode-2 as that is the only Emacs that supports xft. More details here [3]. Footnotes: [1] http://hcoop.net/~alephnull/Screenshot.png [2] http://hcoop.net/~alephnull/cdacfonts.tar.gz [3] http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/XftGnuEmacs -- Alok His mind is like a steel trap: full of mice. -- Foghorn Leghorn ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Indlinux-hindi] Description of Hindi phonetic rules for aspell
On 19 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm able to get 'devanagari-itrans' input method working, with > devanagari characters getting rendered in minibuffer, but the main > editor buffer still shows boxes. Anybody has any idea how to make > emacs render devanagari text ? It's just a question of getting the right fonts. If you are using emacs21 or emacs22, the only fonts I found that worked as advertised were the (possibly non-free) CDAC fonts. The emacswiki link cited above has a recipe for setting a fontset in your .Xdefaults that worked for me. You would have a wider choice in fonts if you use emacs-unicode-2. All the ttf fonts render just fine (at least for Hindi, other indic languages have some small problems). -- Alok Van Roy's Law: An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [X posted] Why DVD/CD fail
On 3 Apr 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Any comments on "Indian" CD/DVD's behaviour as said in the article? >> For data archiving this is important. Found the link from /. > > MoserBaer and mmore have been acceptable whenever I tried > transferring files between machines (sneaker net). That's about the most Moser Baer's CD can be used for. The only brand I have found which last for more than a year without a problem is TDK. Magnetic media (HDDs, tapes) are better suited to long-term storage, imho. -- Alok At the end of your life there'll be a good rest, and no further activities are scheduled. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] calendar of foss events
On 14 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Would it be possible to get a feed for this ? Or even a shared >> Google calendar ? > > i will set up a feed when i find out how to do that - maybe now is > the time to tackle that oft postponed task. No idea what a google > calendar is http://calendar.google.com. Ever since T. V. Raman announced[1] an Emacs interface to the Google Data APIs, that service has become a lot more attractive (to me atleast). Footnotes: [1] http://emacspeak.blogspot.com/2007/03/emacs-client-for-google-services.html -- Alok Let he who takes the plunge remember to return it by Tuesday. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] calendar of foss events
On 13 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > we have set up a calendar of foss events at Would it be possible to get a feed for this ? Or even a shared Google calendar ? -- Alok We seldom repent talking too little, but very often talking too much. -- Jean de la Bruyere ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
