Re: [ilugd] cheap trick with multiple gmail accounts for concurrent logins

2007-09-09 Thread Vishnu Gopal
On 9/8/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 dear all,

[..]
 can anybody please recommend me another, and more elegant way of
 concurrently logging-in via the web to multiple gmail accounts?

 tia

 :-)
 niyam


To address the original problem, you can forward them all to a single
account, use filters based on the To field (check archive) so that
your inbox is empty and the mails are all folded into separate labels.

Then use the multiple accounts feature in Gmail (settings - accounts)
to get multiple from fields.

Or even use the new POP import to import from multiple Gmail accounts.

The problem with this is that it doesn't offer anonymity. Gmail's from
header munging has an (on behalf of: actual-email-id) in the header
portion.

Regards,
Vish

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Re: [ilugd] List etiquette

2007-09-02 Thread Vishnu Gopal
Hi Raj,

On 8/27/07, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hi Folks,

 A reminder about mailing list etiquette in general...
[..]

Could I also suggest keeping your signatures short and not polluting them with:


 Regards,

 - -- Raju
 - --
 Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://kandalaya.org/

1. Your name and email ID (redundant).

  Freedom in Technology  Software || September 2007 || http://freed.in/

2. Freed.in tag

GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5  0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F
   It is the mind that moves

3. A GPG ID (?) and an epitaph

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)

 iD8DBQFG0rQQyWjQ78xo0X8RAm8tAJ42Acae3iSyiU1kaAOcymq0CbjHLACgiBmL
 kEKm1taCVqba3KnVFAEbY9I=
 =crJa
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4. A PGP signature, and:

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5. Various mailing list info.

Even in such a long message, this takes up around 20% of the text. If
it's a one-word reply, I shudder to think of the useless text.

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Re: [ilugd] [x-posted] potentially-damaging news: Apple 'buys' CUPS

2007-07-12 Thread Vishnu Gopal
On 7/12/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 apple has probably done 'a hostile takeover' of the CUPS project, by
 'buying' the author.

 http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1249882244;fp;16;fpid;1

 the community thinks this is to safeguard apple from issues with gpl3,
 as apple's printing-engine relies on CUPS. maybe, maybe not.

 apple also bought the GPL-ed software similarly, that was the
 precursor to 'shake' its video-compositing app.

 can we expect several more of such similar 'hostile' take-overs of
 GPL-ed software where a lead-programmer essentially has the right to
 revoke the GPL license for whatever motivations?

 HP, that relies on CUPS to keep its printers compatible with GnuLinux,
 has yet to respond or issue a statement.

 could this have an impact on our GPL-ed ability to 'print-to-pdf' using CUPS?

 ?
 niyam


From the source: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L475

It seems to be fine and nothing to fork etc. over. Hostile takeover
etc. seems to be an over-reaction.  Also:
http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L+TFAQ

Later,
Vish

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Re: [ilugd] Moving the ILUGD planet to linux-delhi.org

2007-04-12 Thread Vishnu Gopal
On 4/12/07, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[..]
 OTOH, question for the list: do you want a planet?


Yes, it's great (esp its RSS feed). But thought there already is one?
http://www.lug-delhi.org/blogs/

Vish
[..]

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Re: [ilugd] ILUGD functioning [WAS: Re: The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007]

2007-02-09 Thread Vishnu Gopal
On 2/9/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snipped]
 Oh I'm done. I don't care about four letter words but it was kinda
 funny coming, as they did, without provocation.

 And why would I *start* a personal abuse round with someone from
 Sarai, when I personally think that they are doing a wonderful job..
 And one of them introduced me, a former Java fan, to python. I thank
 him *every* day :)


Python? You suck! Ruby rulezz

/me ducks ;-)

Later,
Vish

 Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-08 Thread Vishnu Gopal
On 2/8/07, G Karunakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/8/07, Vishnu Gopal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [snip]

 well what do you expect google to show..  a screen with google search
 opened..? or  gmail? or orkut? or youtube? or google earth?... at
 least they have something to do with FOSS.. whether they are there for
 hiring..or drumming up for SoC...
  what would tehelka show except their weekly.., or Novell ..except
 their half propreitry stuff.. so with other stalls.. while all other
 stalls used it in their own way.. they were atleast related to FOSS
 ... while M$ aint..
  after all it was LA... not foss.in / freedel / gnunify..

 Karunakar


If they have something to do with FOSS then a demo would do wonders.
Frankly I'm disgusted at Google stalls I see at conferences everywhere
- and yeah was at Foss.in too this year where they had six big couches
and two (admittedly better looking) girls =).

Contrast that to the Sun stall at Foss.in and the energy and enthu of
the people there was amazing. Used to think Sun was a crappy company
but just the tech demos there had me converted. Please note, this is
not a comparison of what M$ did versus what Google did or is doing,
but just a comment on their conference stalls.

Vish

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Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-01 Thread Vishnu Gopal
Anyone who doesn't compromise my goals for an event. It's like this:
you give me this much money and you get this much. Yup, I will. If
Rajindar da Dhaba wants to sponsor the next whatever, I say lets go
for it =)

Vish

On 2/1/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 01-Feb-07, at 1:16 PM, Vishnu Gopal wrote:

  the events I've organized the sponsors don't have much of a say on
  *how* the event is organized, or what is actually said/done at the
  event. Just that they want this much space for the stalls, this much
  of time on stage, this much of projector space, their name in the
  branding etc... not sure it's that much of a problem.

 so you'll take money from anyone at all?


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Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-01 Thread Vishnu Gopal
On 2/1/07, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:34PM +0530, Vishnu Gopal wrote:
  I'm not sure what's wrong, is the money somehow tainted? In the all
  the events I've organized the sponsors don't have much of a say on
  *how* the event is organized, or what is actually said/done at the
  event. Just that they want this much space for the stalls, this much
  of time on stage, this much of projector space, their name in the
  branding etc... not sure it's that much of a problem.

 they take time on stage, they take projector space, they put up stalls
 in physical space, and they have their name in the branding..

 what else would you think compromises the agenda?

 poor rajinder da dhaba is not going to ask for most of these.


Why would it compromise the goals/agenda? An event is different from
the sponsorship. It's like the Google sponsored ads that I see towards
the right of Gmail. They take up space, they advertise themselves,
they ask for some of my time, but they are different from the emails I
type in here.

Anyways, feel free to take this off-list/IRC, don't want this to
degrade to a Is Microsoft good/evil conversation.

And sorry for the top post.

Later,
Vish

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Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-01-31 Thread Vishnu Gopal
Hi,

I might be the lone voice out here but think you guys are
over-reacting. Microsoft has/had a presence in just about every big
FLOSS event I've been to, either by participating or sponsoring or
having a stall put up. Heck they even have a stall at ze LinuxWorld.
(Ironic that the LinuxWorld site runs .asp methinks)

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1782776,00.asp
http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/

I went to LA yesterday and I really think it was a *good* thing
Microsoft was there. It didn't reduce the sly comments directed
against Microsoft from just about every one of the speakers and their
whole wow with Vista stall drew just about as few visitors as the
rest of them. Vista was really pathetic when I used it there too, and
the girls/guys at the stall were dumbos.

I agree however that a try should be made to introduce FOSS into a
Microsoft conference. That'd be fun :-)

Vish

On 2/1/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 01-Feb-07, at 10:18 AM, Sudev Barar wrote:

  While they may be aare they need to be made aware of community
  dis-approval of such event names being used and associating such
  sponsors with them. Silence to reflect our protest will not get us
  anywhere.

 this is the 'assurance':
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/36498/
 match=linuxasia
 
  Far feched but KG perhaps NRC-FOSS can do it's bit??

 NRC-FOSS participation was decided when we thought ilugd was running
 the show in collaboration with LFY. The microsoft news came too late
 in the day for changing plans (we *are* a govt thingie and not too
 much into protesting). However our participation is far less than it
 would have been had ilugd been part of the show. I personally have
 been making a noise, but there are a lot of oss people who are
 neutral to microsoft - and even target the microsoft platform. In
 fact, a large number of foss applications spend more of their time
 finetuning the microsoft ports of their applications than the linux
 ports. Each to his own poison.


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Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-01-31 Thread Vishnu Gopal
I'm not sure what's wrong, is the money somehow tainted? In the all
the events I've organized the sponsors don't have much of a say on
*how* the event is organized, or what is actually said/done at the
event. Just that they want this much space for the stalls, this much
of time on stage, this much of projector space, their name in the
branding etc... not sure it's that much of a problem.

Is your opposition on ideological grounds? Then it's definitely a no-no.

Vish

On 2/1/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 01-Feb-07, at 12:40 PM, Raj Shekhar wrote:

  having a stall put up. Heck they even have a stall at ze LinuxWorld.
  (Ironic that the LinuxWorld site runs .asp methinks)
 
  I think LCA is the REAL os conference, and I don't see MS there
  http://lca2007.linux.org.au/Sponsors and neither for oscon
  http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2006/ nor for foss.in
  http://foss.in/2006/info/Main_Page

 past avatars of foss.in have had microsoft speakers - nothing wrong
 there. But accepting microsoft sponsorship is a different kettle of
 fish altogether


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