Re: [ilugd] [ILUG-BOM] Hall of shame
Quoting ÂHoney  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > hall of shame is meant for sites that dont work with normal browsers - not > > for > > badly designed sites > > I partially agree with you but at least it should proper in Firefox > what i found is "mission" (scrollers javascript )works in IE but not in > Firefox browser ahh - then it is a candidate ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [ILUG-BOM] Hall of shame
Quoting ÂHoney  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 7:45 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Quoting Dinesh Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Feb 20, 2008 3:13 PM, Pradnyesh Sawant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Over the past few days ***hsbc.co.in*** is giving me the following > > error: > > > > > > > > > Here is one more Gov Site candidate for Hall of Shame. > > > > > > http://www.epfindia.com/ > > > > what is wrong with this site? > > miss mannered header image on home page > (look very unprofessional as a 5th grade kid make that) > Misson ?? image appears but no description at all > (a gov site without any mission) hall of shame is meant for sites that dont work with normal browsers - not for badly designed sites ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Microsoft To Give Away Developer Tools To Students For Free
Quoting waseem ahmad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dear all, > Microsoft is making full versions of it's developer tools such as > Visual Studio Professional Edition, Expression Studio and XNA Game > Studio 2.0 available to students for free. and the relevance to this list is? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [ILUG-BOM] Hall of shame
Quoting Dinesh Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Feb 20, 2008 3:13 PM, Pradnyesh Sawant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Over the past few days ***hsbc.co.in*** is giving me the following error: > > > Here is one more Gov Site candidate for Hall of Shame. > > http://www.epfindia.com/ what is wrong with this site? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Spam Re: Hindi Rendering Problem
Quoting Ajay Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Puneet Lakhina wrote: > > I have Ubuntu 7.04 and --enable-pango was there in my build flags. > > > Cool! > > Puneet, is it possible for you to post a summary of the steps required > for any newbees reference. > In addition to help boost firefox over ie, it will also help all the > good people who were not able to use firefox for lack of out of the box > Indic support, to switch back to their favorite browser. :) why not boost Konqueror over IE - those guys are doing a great job ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Skype Found Guilty of GPL Violations
Quoting Anupam Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 7/30/07, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On 30-Jul-07, at 1:55 PM, PJ wrote: > > > > > Since the starcom UT modem I have at the office is redistributed > > > without source > > > access and GPL text, it seems to be the same kind of violation as > > > skype's > > > violation when skype distributed their voip set without source > > > access and GPL > > > text. > > > > if MTNL has not modified the code in the modem, it is under no > > obligation to provide the source or the GPL text > > > > > Ok Lets look at it this way.. MTNL gets the right to distribute the modem > from Starcom.. Starcom does not have the right to distribute the modem > unless it complies with the GPL.. Starcom does not comply with the GPL.. > Hence Starcom neither has the right to distribute nor the right to give the > right to distribute the software to a third party.. Hence MTNL has no rights > to distribute the tainted code.. > > I don't see where the confusion is.. right - somehow I had assumed that starcom had complied with the GPL. Although I dont think MTNL would have any contract with starcom. MTNL would be purchasing modems on the tender system from some dealer and would be passing the same as recieved to the customer after testing it. So the customer usually gets the modem with original packing and literature. Even then MTNL is guilty of violation of GPL. And so is every dealer/retailer who sells these modems. The obvious solution is to sue starcom. Given the success in the dlink case, I would assume that Harald welte has already issued notice to starcom - assuming that starcom is big enough to show up on his radar. In India, the easiest way of shaking up MTNL is to file an application under the RTI act seeking information as to who is responsible for MTNL getting involved in illegal deals like this. Any Indian citizen can file such an application - and such applications are extraordinarily effective. > > -- Anupam > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data
Quoting Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Erm, doesn't everyone? I have 1TB at home in a RAID-1 configuration. i dont - the only data i cant afford to lose are my passwords which are backed up on deadtrees and locked in a safe. I dont even back up mail any more. List mail is archived anyway, and as for other mail, everyone else backs it up, so I just have to ask the relevant person for a copy when I want it. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] M-earn makes your pockets jingle
Quoting Ravi Shanker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > So, whats this? Anyway, I don't have cellphone :) > And please do not litter here like this. just a spammer - must have been booted by now ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university
Quoting Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Linux Lingam wrote: > > > actually there's a whole bunch of vendors in india who officially sell > > linux-based hardware. the problem is once the hardware is installed at > > customers' sites, do they even boot into linux? > > > > so would be wonderful to hear of 'genuine linux advantage' stories, if > > you know what i mean. ;-) > > I kind of don't know what you mean :P but I assume you are talking of > Linux deployments where the infrastructure has at least has some bits > running on Linux. There are a few of those including some like the Tamil > Nadu Electricity Board, Life Insurance Corporation of India, CESC > (erswhile Calcutta Electric Supply Corpn) and I guess even KIIT (in > Orissa). There's the Intel driven Govt Aided PC Program in Sri Lanka > that's a big number of desktops and 45,000 systems with suse recently procured by tn govt for use in panchayats ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Another FLOSS ERP?
Quoting Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Has anyone seen this (in German true ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft and Linspire reach interop, IP deal
Quoting vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > and the difference between algorithms and arguments > > is? > > > > huh? dont you see any difference in algorithms and > arguments ? Simplest difference is, algorithm is be > defined matematically whereas argument is > verabal/written (no need to prove). Those who > understand the difference between mathematics and > literature, understand the difference. go to jail, go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Evaluating submissions to Freed-2007
> With this communication I am requesting all to send me suggestions of > names of people you think fit the bill. i would like to be on the committee -- kg ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft and Linspire reach interop, IP deal
Quoting Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 16/06/07, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Saturday 16 June 2007 10:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > [snip] > > > wonder what will happen when some american patents the googly > > > > They'll stop playing cricket in America? > > Seriously going off topic but Now if only I could know how to > patent gilli-danda! I am sure if I apply to US office of patent I > would get it. ;-) it isnt off topic - the thread just shows how stupid it is to even think of patenting knowledge ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft and Linspire reach interop, IP deal
Quoting Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Saturday 16 June 2007 10:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [snip] > > wonder what will happen when some american patents the googly > > They'll stop playing cricket in America? they play cricket in america? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft and Linspire reach interop, IP deal
Quoting Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 16/06/07, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 16-Jun-07, at 2:50 AM, vivek khurana wrote: > > > > >> before you start insulting lawyers recall that the > > >> source for the > > >> practice of the legal profession has been free for > > >> centuries now. No > > >> lawyer patents his innovative arguments. > > > > > > I dont think arguments are patentable entities, are > > > they ? > > > > and the difference between algorithms and arguments is? > > VK's point being that just as algorithms came in to preview so would > arguments. Extending the reach of patents to software is a debate that > still is not dead in Europe. Any ways interesting point even though > not really valid in law ...yet! wonder what will happen when some american patents the googly ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Weird RPM naming ( drifting OT here... )
Quoting G Karunakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > 2. Second and more important one is there are all types of people in the > > list, Gurus, Intermediate and Novice. Its good to have Gurus on the list > > but what could happen to list if they start behaving arrogant? I am not > > talking about this particular thread, i have experienced few others of > > similar type and thought to raise it this time. e.g what happens if > > someone ask what is a hosts file? I can bet there would be many in the > > list who would start bashing on him/her. Is't this kind of behaviour > > dangerous for community especially for community like GNU/Linux, whose > > base is on Freedom! > > blame it on the search engines!.. ever since they started giving near > required answer/solution.. asking on the list has never been the > same.. so its become kind of expected that one has searched for the > solution a bit & then asked unable to find any suitable info through > search... so asking 'what is a hosts file' on google & getting > answers in seconds is kind of simpler than asking on a list and > waiting few mins/hrs for a response.. > offcourse the 'RTFM' has already been kind of forgotten since the > engines came!.. or you could try to join more friendly lists like mumbai or chennai - much more off topic stuff there, but no one will bite your head off ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?
Quoting PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > > > [snip] > > > I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind > > > your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too > > > many people throw the "BSD networking stack" as an example whenever > > > this discussion comes up, but are at a loss when asked for examples > > > beyond that. > > > > Kerberos? > > > > FTP? FTP is software? I always thought it was a protocol > > Not that the MS ftp client was ever used for anything serious, but it was > unattributed BSD code in the older windows. and how did that affect the FTP protocol? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?
Quoting PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > so, in short, your statement that many important BSD projects are in > > danger is not based on any factual knowledge or research. > > I've told you a principle that has been shown to hold true (viz. danger of > BSD > projects being usurped for all projects that are not held in the lead by > talent or luck). facts please. > > Historically, this principle has held (important BSD code usurping has been > observed and has helped MS). again, show one > > The illogic in your statement is therefore devastating and impeccable. again - facts please ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?
Quoting Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Raj Mathur wrote: > > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > >> [snip] > >> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind > >> your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too > >> many people throw the "BSD networking stack" as an example whenever > >> this discussion comes up, but are at a loss when asked for examples > >> beyond that. > > > > Kerberos? > > > > This is again an old name just like the BSD stack theory. > > Besides, I am not sure what happened here. Did Microsoft use BSD > kerberos code? Or did they "embrace and extend" a known protocol and > then made it incompatible with other implementations? If it is the > latter, then it is not exactly a BSD license misuse, right? Even if I am > wrong here, I would urge you provide you the name of some tangible > independent project which has been abused. i have gone through the kerberos web page - software looks alive and well to me. No developer seems to have committed suicide or gone bankrupt. The software appears to be widely used and in active development. So what is the problem? kg ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact
Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL since when did GPL become viral? kg ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] scope of freedel/freed
Quoting Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 00:56 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > hi > > just a clarification - is it the official policy to exclude BSD-licensed > stuff > > or foss on non-linux platforms from the scope of the conference? > [...] > > Um, it is not at all the policy, official or otherwise, to exclude any > legitimate FOSS activity. What made you think so? PJ's posts on the subject - and the lack of any official contradiction > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] scope of freedel/freed
hi just a clarification - is it the official policy to exclude BSD-licensed stuff or foss on non-linux platforms from the scope of the conference? regards kg ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?
Quoting Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Well, in software, > >> there are several known examples where Microsoft has taken BSD code, > altered > >> it, and tried to lock users in to their way of doing things so that they > can > >> exploit them forever after. To an extent they have succeeded more than > failed. > > > > This is the reason why GPL is important. > > GPL has redefined the word "freedom". True freedom means that anyone can > do whatever they want with code. Hence the BSD style licenses are truly > "free". GPL-like freedom, on the other hand is "forced freedom". Forced > freedom, IMHO, is as good as no freedom at all. as far as I am concerned, both gpl and bsd style licenses have their place. I would reserve gpl for really innovative code (and there is very little of that) and keep bsd style licenses for the rest. Incidently how come things like apache and postgresql are surviving inspite of bsd style licenses - not to speak about perl, php, python etc etc. Or are the authors of all these morons who dont understand what is freedom? > > -- > Anant > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?
Quoting PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I would not agree that Freedel has been on a reasonable footing. > > Edition 2 was a bit of a flop. > > Why do you say that? i wasnt there, but was told that especially on the second day attendance was extremely thin. If I was misinformed, my apologies regards kg ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Linux in Gov't
Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > un-realise it, its not my baby. I work out of NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC, BOSS is > the > > child of NRC-FOSS at CDAC. > > so, what is the difference between [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Why did both choose identical names? it is the same project - split into 2, one aspect implemented by cdac and the other aspect implemented by us. They are broadly into technical and we are broadly into education. Each wing decides what it wants to do and does it. So for all practical purposes it is two seperate projects. But we normally have a common stall when we attend melas, which gives an impression that it is a single entity ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Linux in Gov't
Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Ah. Took me sometime to realise that bosslinux is your baby. un-realise it, its not my baby. I work out of NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC, BOSS is the child of NRC-FOSS at CDAC. > > Now, where do I discuss thing about it? with CDAC, Chennai ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Linux in Gov't
Quoting "Mahesh T. Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > > Also, does anyone have info on exactly what is the real development > > going on at CDAC ? > > Develop project proposals for government funding?? > > (sorry, but, the experience of indlinux team makes me sarcastic) what is sarcastic about this? The function of a govt body is to develop proposals for government funding - and to spend the allocated funds under the allocated heads of account. That is how government works. And if you dont understand that, you cant work with government ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007
Quoting Naresh Narang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi there, > > 1. Why are we scared of Microsoft being there in the > event? who is scared? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007 (Pls read the complete news clipping)
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Hi friends, > > Pls allow me to clarify. > > 1. We had informed most speakers in advance about Microsoft's presence, > and sponsors too. At least all who had signed in after the deal. which Indian speakers did you inform? > > 2. We never intended to hide the fact. why didnt you announce it and celebrate it as a great achievement as you appear to think it is? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007
Quoting Anupam Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > And in this case LA was our turf, our event. it wasnt. never was. it is a commercial event involved with linux, and the organisers wanted to involve the community too. Unfortunately, they went about it the wrong way and the community did not respond very well this year. (this was long before microsoft came into the picture). It is *not* a f/oss community event. All we are saying is that if the organisers want the community involved, they have to be responsive to the feelings of the community. In past LA events also they have not been very responsive and community participation has been on the low side. > Microsoft was in the > belly of David so to say. And yet we find our LUG faltering and > finding it hard to digest. We really could have handled it in a more > mature manner. faltering? It is not only ilugd that kept away. LUGs all over India did the same. And how should have it been handled anyway? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007
Quoting Anupam Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Cmon are all sponsors necessarily connected with Linux? Most companies > sponsor events because they want advertising, not because they believe > in the cause. BS - pure BS. Take a look at the sponsorship list at foss.in. Most companies sponsor foss thingies because oss is part of their business model and are using and promoting it to, among other things, compete with their main rival which strangely enough, happens to be microsoft. At the very least, the companies that sponsor are not committed to the destruction of f/oss > Why should Microsoft be any different. the why of it is between you and uncle bill. But the fact is that microsoft *is* different. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007
Quoting Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 07/02/07, Anupam Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The only sparks that flew where when Microsoft made it abundantly clear > > > that they would use their patent portfolio to prevent the spread of GPL > > > software. > > > " > > > > Did something like that happen in LA too? If not then it's not > > something worth raising so much fuss over is it? > > Anupam did you attend LA? If yes then your opinion - unbiased - on > what M$ did to promote the theme - Linux Asia - is welcome. If not > then in line with your snipped comment "your opinion is not worth much > .. is it?" +1 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007
Quoting Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > There was no prevention. As you attended and proved your point to who > ever came in. The basic issue was how can there be justification for > FOSII to name an event LA and then allow the biggest opponent to walk > away with hounors of Chief sponsorer and distribute products / > literature for exactly opposite of what LA stood for. > > As community we discuss ad debate events openly and if individuals > find opprtunities to show case community then they should. i think ilugd should be congratulated for not calling for a boycott. They correctly left the decision to individuals ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007
Quoting vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > PS :- Can someone get a news printed in a daily > newspaper, regarding this discussion? maybe lfy would like to carry this discussion along with their point of view (if they have one) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Quoting Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > Which particular bully are you speaking about? And which > > person who stood up to a bully was pulled down by other people? I > > thought lawgon was speaking about a generic belief that people versed > > in code tend to be shy and introverted, and shy away from > > confrontations (BTW, I don't buy that thesis either, given the flame > > wars I have witnessed). > > that is what i was talking about - I find that flame wars are different from > fights. Most active developers have no inhibitions about flame wars, but shy > away from 'politics'. They prefer to leave groups and avoid conferences when > there is a disagreement rather than fighting some one to change the policy. btw - i used the term 'bully' genericaly, I had no person in mind when using the term, so please dont read anything into it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007
Quoting Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Which particular bully are you speaking about? And which > person who stood up to a bully was pulled down by other people? I > thought lawgon was speaking about a generic belief that people versed > in code tend to be shy and introverted, and shy away from > confrontations (BTW, I don't buy that thesis either, given the flame > wars I have witnessed). that is what i was talking about - I find that flame wars are different from fights. Most active developers have no inhibitions about flame wars, but shy away from 'politics'. They prefer to leave groups and avoid conferences when there is a disagreement rather than fighting some one to change the policy. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Carpool for tomorrow's meeting
> If you want to share, please send me a *private* mail giving your > mobile number and where you'd like to join up by this evening. > Hi, >Just saw this mail. Of course, I am interested, and will be at your > place > by 1pm. he did say *private* maybe he shoulda said PRIVATE ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Call For Papers: ILUGD event in September
> - What is Parrot > - Setting up replication in mysql (I volunteer self for this) > - Smarty > - Pear > - Ajax > - Why should anyone care about ruby - Django - pythons's answer to rubyonrails ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
