Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-07-19 Thread Rohan George
I would love to have more information on this. Does anyone know who I can
contact who can tell me more about this MCD program?


On 7/18/07, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We seem to have missed this rather major development. Two years ago, MCD
 (Municipal Corporation of Delhi) installed linux-based computers in 1000
 primary schools, five computers in each. Here is one news item which
 provides some details:
 http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20061113/market05.shtml

 Casual search on Google threw up a few others which have similar content.

 It also seems that subsequently more computers were added to the original
 5000.

 We should find out more about it. Who was behind it? What use are these
 computers put to? What has been the experience of two years? Who provides
 technical support? Also, how come Microsoft missed the bus, or did it?

 And may be we can get somebody from NICT, an NGO that was involved, to
 come
 and talk about it at Freed.

 Vikas
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-07-17 Thread Vikas Rawal
We seem to have missed this rather major development. Two years ago, MCD
(Municipal Corporation of Delhi) installed linux-based computers in 1000
primary schools, five computers in each. Here is one news item which
provides some details:
http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20061113/market05.shtml

Casual search on Google threw up a few others which have similar content.

It also seems that subsequently more computers were added to the original
5000.

We should find out more about it. Who was behind it? What use are these
computers put to? What has been the experience of two years? Who provides
technical support? Also, how come Microsoft missed the bus, or did it?

And may be we can get somebody from NICT, an NGO that was involved, to come
and talk about it at Freed.

Vikas
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-07-04 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Linux Lingam wrote:

 actually there's a whole bunch of vendors in india who officially sell
 linux-based hardware. the problem is once the hardware is installed at
 customers' sites, do they even boot into linux?
 
 so would be wonderful to hear of 'genuine linux advantage' stories, if
 you know what i mean. ;-)

I kind of don't know what you mean :P but I assume you are talking of
Linux deployments where the infrastructure has at least has some bits
running on Linux. There are a few of those including some like the Tamil
Nadu Electricity Board, Life Insurance Corporation of India, CESC
(erswhile Calcutta Electric Supply Corpn) and I guess even KIIT (in
Orissa). There's the Intel driven Govt Aided PC Program in Sri Lanka
that's a big number of desktops

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-07-04 Thread Anand Shankar
On 7/2/07, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 10:27:51 +0530, Anand Shankar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  I believe FOSS gained significant acceptance worldwide due to
  patronage and a strategic corporate policy of such majors as IBM,



 As an outsider, I find this curious that this is so very
  different from the genesis of free software;  where free software
  started, grew, and flourished in the developer/IT/CS community before
  it was grudgingly acknowledged by major companies.

 Interestingly, the focus in this forum seems to be mostly on
  business acceptance, not on community/educational institution
  deployment; which is different from the places where free software was
  born.


I acknowledge the genesis and roots of FOSS and where free software
started, grew, and flourished in the developer/IT/CS community before
it was grudgingly acknowledged by major companies. This is good for
development, but for widespread application we need to 'go beyond'
developer/IT/CS community.  The major companies should not
grudgingly acknowledge, but willingly strategise using FOSS. This is
when larger acceptance happens.

anand

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-07-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 10:27:51 +0530, Anand Shankar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

 I believe FOSS gained significant acceptance worldwide due to
 patronage and a strategic corporate policy of such majors as IBM,
 Google, Yahoo, HP, Intel etc. For things to happen in India, we need
 more than one such major Corporate and/or Academic body adopting FOSS,
 and in a way encouraging / cajoling others to ponder for adoption.

As an outsider, I find this curious that this is so very
 different from the genesis of free software;  where free software
 started, grew, and flourished in the developer/IT/CS community before
 it was grudgingly acknowledged by major companies.

Interestingly, the focus in this forum seems to be mostly on
 business acceptance, not on community/educational institution
 deployment; which is different from the places where free software was
 born.

manoj
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-07-01 Thread Roshan
--- Anand Shankar wrote:

 I believe FOSS gained significant acceptance
 worldwide due to
 patronage and a strategic corporate policy of such
 majors as IBM,
 Google, Yahoo, HP, Intel etc. For things to happen
 in India, we need
 more than one such major Corporate and/or Academic
 body adopting FOSS,
 and in a way encouraging / cajoling others to ponder
 for adoption.

I'm not sure if my example suits well in here, but I
would like to ask this. Did BITS-Pilani get its
reputation because of being able to have tie-up with
few of top 5 IT majors or did BITS-Pilani have (or
has) the quality of a unique academic institution?
 
 FOSS in India needs very much an example of Big
 Name Corporate
 Acceptance. It is the adoption at Desktop which is
 being talked here.
 Many Corporates already deploy FOSS in their
 Server-end applications,
 where most users, whose opinions matter, are not
 aware of the
 advantages brought by FOSS in their own company.

Are there policies restricting the disclosure of such
information?

 Adoption is easier in academic institutions, as
 training /
 self-education is very much part of the environment.
 FOSS/Linux being
 adopted in IITs/NITs etc does'nt make much news, as
 it gels with the
 myth Techie OS for Techie people. It would make
 more impact if it
 were to be adopted by IIMs or any other leading
 Management Schools.

Agreed. 


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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-07-01 Thread Anand Shankar
On 7/1/07, Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.

 I'm not sure if my example suits well in here, but I
 would like to ask this. Did BITS-Pilani get its
 reputation because of being able to have tie-up with
 few of top 5 IT majors or did BITS-Pilani have (or
 has) the quality of a unique academic institution?


Possibly OT
1. They had a visionary management who wanted to the institution to
achieve greater heights. I should mention that that the Academic
Programs at BITS Pilani were greatly influenced by the BITS Pilani -
MIT (US) Collaboration which started in mid sixties and continued in
early seventies. I am not aware of any similar collaborations if they
are having these days. Similarly, all IITs have been individually
influenced by a country specific collaboration. IITK with US, IITD
with UK etc.

2. The social circumstances at BITS Pilani, starting early fifties to
mid-seventies is also a great factor in making BITS Pilani having a
reputation today.

I was born in that campus, so I know.
OT

Tie-ups have been a key factor in building these institutions.

anand

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-07-01 Thread Linux Lingam
On 7/1/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 30-Jun-07, at 11:05 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:

  thanks mehul for the info. hope others find this inspiring.
  in fact, wish i could compile and publish on a page all the info of
  all the
  foss deployment across academia in india.

 i have spent the last year crisscrossing the country and visiting
 academic institutions. I have yet to see a *single* institution where
 the servers are not on linux. And across UP, where there doesnt seem
 to be a *single* LUG, all major institutions have at least one linux
 lab. In the deserts of Rajasthan, LNMIIT has three labs with a total
 of about 150 machines - all running whitebox linux - the only doze
 machines there are the personal machines of some of the faculty - and
 they dont have a LUG either.



hmmm.. kenneth you are the best guy to ask the question:
what's happening at IIM calcutta.
they inspired one of my columns for LInuxForYou in May 2004. heck the
archive here:

'What They Don't Teach You at IIM'
http://niyam.com/gnulinux/lfy/fy/FY-monthly-col.php?mar2k4

i'd love to update that article if they've gone foss.

meanwhile, also check out this one, authored in 2005:

Open a school, open a jail

http://niyam.com/gnulinux/lfy/fy/FY-monthly-col.php?jul2k5


all published under the verbatim license.
so go forth and multiply
:-)
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-07-01 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 01-Jul-07, at 3:12 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:

 what's happening at IIM calcutta.

i dont visit IITs and IIMs


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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-30 Thread Linux Lingam
On 6/30/07, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [OT]
  Anyways, FYI, VJTI (http://vjti.ac.in/) in Mumbai does
  have its internet browsing centre dual booting with
  Ubuntu 7.04. (Centre for NRCFOSS-Mumbai node too) The
  server setup is in process to support Windows and
  *buntu client machines. :)
  [/OT]



how many computers?

For your information, NIT Hamirpur's computer centre runs _only_ on
 Ubuntu 6.06. It is maintained by the local GLUG
 (http://glug-nith.org/).



how many comps, here?

niyam
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-30 Thread Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray
  For your information, NIT Hamirpur's computer centre runs _only_ on
  Ubuntu 6.06. It is maintained by the local GLUG
  (http://glug-nith.org/).

 how many comps, here?

25 in the computer centre and 20 more in the laboratories. This
excludes all dual-boot setups.

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-30 Thread mehul
On 6/30/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/30/07, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   [OT]
   Anyways, FYI, VJTI (http://vjti.ac.in/) in Mumbai does
   have its internet browsing centre dual booting with
   Ubuntu 7.04. (Centre for NRCFOSS-Mumbai node too) The
   server setup is in process to support Windows and
   *buntu client machines. :)
   [/OT]



 how many computers?

30 clients dual booting between ubuntu 7.04 and windows XP. Plus
one running as a server, using debian etch.

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-30 Thread Linux Lingam
On 6/30/07, mehul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 6/30/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 6/30/07, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
[OT]
Anyways, FYI, VJTI (http://vjti.ac.in/) in Mumbai does
have its internet browsing centre dual booting with
Ubuntu 7.04.
 
  how many computers?

 30 clients dual booting between ubuntu 7.04 and windows XP. Plus
 one running as a server, using debian etch.



thanks mehul for the info. hope others find this inspiring.
in fact, wish i could compile and publish on a page all the info of all the
foss deployment across academia in india.

any ideas how we could do this?

niyam
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-30 Thread vivek khurana

--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 in fact, wish i could compile and publish on a page
 all the info of all the
 foss deployment across academia in india.
 
 any ideas how we could do this?
 
 Why not use a Wiki ? We have a wiki on ilugd website.
ALternatively we can www.wikia.com or
www.wikiwikiweb.de or any other free wiki service.

regards
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-30 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 30-Jun-07, at 12:27 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:

 On 6/30/07, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [OT]
 Anyways, FYI, VJTI (http://vjti.ac.in/) in Mumbai does
 have its internet browsing centre dual booting with
 Ubuntu 7.04. (Centre for NRCFOSS-Mumbai node too) The
 server setup is in process to support Windows and
 *buntu client machines. :)
 [/OT]



 how many computers?

31


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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-30 Thread Anand Shankar
On 6/29/07, Ravi Shanker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am in DU, and i dont know such things. Even in my comp. sc lab at DDU
 college, DU, there is just one machine having Ubuntu 6.10 that i
 installed for print server, and telnet client so students can connect to
 them for practise.  Other few machines are having Redhat 9.0. Thats all.
 Why people saying there is Ubuntu in DU. Whereis the Link to such and
 who started it?

 Please let me know.




I have reasons to believe that the magic figure of 5000 is in the
making, and is not a reality YET!!. Even if it moves ahead as thought,
it is likely to be dual-boot.

I believe FOSS gained significant acceptance worldwide due to
patronage and a strategic corporate policy of such majors as IBM,
Google, Yahoo, HP, Intel etc. For things to happen in India, we need
more than one such major Corporate and/or Academic body adopting FOSS,
and in a way encouraging / cajoling others to ponder for adoption.

Let us debate which are these institutions where this could be done.
We need more than active evangelism to do this. We should find what
are those little barriers which are stopping people to move and as a
community try to provide answes to these questions.

FOSS in India needs very much an example of Big Name Corporate
Acceptance. It is the adoption at Desktop which is being talked here.
Many Corporates already deploy FOSS in their Server-end applications,
where most users, whose opinions matter, are not aware of the
advantages brought by FOSS in their own company.

Adoption is easier in academic institutions, as training /
self-education is very much part of the environment. FOSS/Linux being
adopted in IITs/NITs etc does'nt make much news, as it gels with the
myth Techie OS for Techie people. It would make more impact if it
were to be adopted by IIMs or any other leading Management Schools.

We must try to get some leading Management Professors to evangelise on
this supported by LUGs for Proof-of-Concept implementations in willing
Corporates. FOSS Strategies for IT eco-systems in Corporates needs to
be actively talked by the Consultants such as Accenture, KPMG, PwC
etc. We need other such institutions like Gartner, TCS and others to
release papers advocating FOSS in public domain. We need evangelism at
leading System Integrators to tell us how do they intend to provide SI
support on FOSS and what are there problems.

Anand Shankar

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-30 Thread Roshan
--- Linux Lingam wrote:

 in fact, wish i could compile and publish on a page
 all the info of all the
 foss deployment across academia in india.
 
 any ideas how we could do this?

Delhi LUG has a wiki, start a page there. Put these on
the page and monitor the list for more. :) 

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-29 Thread Ravi Shanker
I am in DU, and i dont know such things. Even in my comp. sc lab at DDU
college, DU, there is just one machine having Ubuntu 6.10 that i
installed for print server, and telnet client so students can connect to
them for practise.  Other few machines are having Redhat 9.0. Thats all.
Why people saying there is Ubuntu in DU. Whereis the Link to such and
who started it?

Please let me know. 

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 Linux Lingam wrote:
 
  just heard about 5,000 desktops moved from a proprietory os,  to
  dual-boot with ubuntu.
 
 If they are booting into GNOME could someone post a short note to the
 GNOME Marketing list [1] ? And KDE-India [2] if they are booting into KDE.
 
 Are they using the local language UI ?
 
 :Sankarshan
 
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-29 Thread Roshan
--- Ravi Shanker wrote:

 I am in DU, and i dont know such things. Even in my
 comp. sc lab at DDU
 college, DU, there is just one machine having Ubuntu
 6.10 that i
 installed for print server, and telnet client so
 students can connect to
 them for practise.  Other few machines are having
 Redhat 9.0. Thats all.
 Why people saying there is Ubuntu in DU. 

Looks like DU doesn't have Ubuntu, but some random
computers do have a Linux distribution, for the sake
of it. 

[OT]
Anyways, FYI, VJTI (http://vjti.ac.in/) in Mumbai does
have its internet browsing centre dual booting with
Ubuntu 7.04. (Centre for NRCFOSS-Mumbai node too) The
server setup is in process to support Windows and
*buntu client machines. :)
[/OT]

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-29 Thread Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray
 [OT]
 Anyways, FYI, VJTI (http://vjti.ac.in/) in Mumbai does
 have its internet browsing centre dual booting with
 Ubuntu 7.04. (Centre for NRCFOSS-Mumbai node too) The
 server setup is in process to support Windows and
 *buntu client machines. :)
 [/OT]

For your information, NIT Hamirpur's computer centre runs _only_ on
Ubuntu 6.06. It is maintained by the local GLUG
(http://glug-nith.org/).

Not only that there are atleast half a dozen faculty members who use
GNU/Linux,. Among them 2 use it as the only OS on their home desktop
and laptops, and sometimes hang out on IRC (#glug-nith on Freenode)
too.

There is no NRC-FOSS or other external agency's involvement yet.

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 29-Jun-07, at 7:25 PM, Roshan wrote:

 [OT]
 Anyways, FYI, VJTI (http://vjti.ac.in/) in Mumbai does
 have its internet browsing centre dual booting with
 Ubuntu 7.04. (Centre for NRCFOSS-Mumbai node too) The
 server setup is in process to support Windows and
 *buntu client machines. :)
 [/OT]

this is not OT - nor STD


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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 15-Jun-07, at 9:57 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:

 just heard about 5,000 desktops moved from a proprietory os,  to
 dual-boot with ubuntu.

 If they are booting into GNOME could someone post a short note to the
 GNOME Marketing list [1] ? And KDE-India [2] if they are booting  
 into KDE.

wouldnt it make more sense to do it the other way round?


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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-14 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Linux Lingam wrote:

 just heard about 5,000 desktops moved from a proprietory os,  to
 dual-boot with ubuntu.

If they are booting into GNOME could someone post a short note to the
GNOME Marketing list [1] ? And KDE-India [2] if they are booting into KDE.

Are they using the local language UI ?

:Sankarshan

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-12 Thread G Karunakar
On 6/11/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 dear all,

 the DU url mentioned earlier is up, but no press release or news of
 5,000 ubuntu dualboot desktops. search produced no results either.

 anybody from DU here on the mailing list, who could point us to a
 press release or announcement. i am keen to slashdot and digg it.


on another note,  just heard about HCL also selling laptop with Linux
(Ubuntu) loaded..
thankfully with the earlier farce of linux laptops not repeating!

Karunakar

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-12 Thread Vikas Rawal
Except that HCL laptops are rather badly engineered. We have two, and
from very early on, every screw seems to be loose and their switches
keep coming off. So, do watch out.

Vikas

On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 05:17:58PM +0530, G Karunakar wrote:
 On 6/11/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  dear all,
 
  the DU url mentioned earlier is up, but no press release or news of
  5,000 ubuntu dualboot desktops. search produced no results either.
 
  anybody from DU here on the mailing list, who could point us to a
  press release or announcement. i am keen to slashdot and digg it.
 
 
 on another note,  just heard about HCL also selling laptop with Linux
 (Ubuntu) loaded..
 thankfully with the earlier farce of linux laptops not repeating!
 
 Karunakar
 
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-12 Thread Sameer N Ingole
G Karunakar wrote:
 On 6/11/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 dear all,

 the DU url mentioned earlier is up, but no press release or news of
 5,000 ubuntu dualboot desktops. search produced no results either.

 anybody from DU here on the mailing list, who could point us to a
 press release or announcement. i am keen to slashdot and digg it.
 on another note,  just heard about HCL also selling laptop with Linux
 (Ubuntu) loaded..
 thankfully with the earlier farce of linux laptops not repeating!
   
Dell too offering preloaded Ubuntu Linux.

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=uscs=19l=ens=dhs

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-12 Thread Linux Lingam
[snip]

 on another note,  just heard about HCL also selling laptop with Linux
 (Ubuntu) loaded..
 thankfully with the earlier farce of linux laptops not repeating!

 Karunakar


actually there's a whole bunch of vendors in india who officially sell
linux-based hardware. the problem is once the hardware is installed at
customers' sites, do they even boot into linux?

so would be wonderful to hear of 'genuine linux advantage' stories, if
you know what i mean. ;-)
am hoping the DU is one of them.

:-)
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-12 Thread G Karunakar
On 6/12/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [snip]
 
  on another note,  just heard about HCL also selling laptop with Linux
  (Ubuntu) loaded..
  thankfully with the earlier farce of linux laptops not repeating!
 
  Karunakar
 

 actually there's a whole bunch of vendors in india who officially sell
 linux-based hardware. the problem is once the hardware is installed at
 customers' sites, do they even boot into linux?


well i think this time is a bit better that its a full desktop (unlike
the text mode farces done by the likes of Acer etc..)

only they may need bit of help here on how to get their mp3s,dvds,
divx playing...
but nyways once the usual demands of running more doze stuff comes its
back to square one.

Karunakar

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-12 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
G Karunakar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 well i think this time is a bit better that its a full desktop (unlike
 the text mode farces done by the likes of Acer etc..)

Once at an IT exhibition, I chanced upon the vacant stall of the local
linux User  Group. Few  stalls away, I  chanced upon a  crowd gathered
around  few machines/laptops.   The  machines with  the biggest  crowd
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-12 Thread Roshan
--- Mahesh T. Pai wrote:

 G Karunakar writes:
 Once at an IT exhibition, I chanced upon the vacant
 stall of the local
 linux User  Group. Few  stalls away, I  chanced upon
 a  crowd gathered
 around  few machines/laptops.   The  machines with 
 the biggest  crowd
 around them were running gnu/linux in console mode.
 ;)

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 12-Jun-07, at 8:48 PM, Mahesh T. Pai wrote:

 well i think this time is a bit better that its a full desktop  
 (unlike
 the text mode farces done by the likes of Acer etc..)

 Once at an IT exhibition, I chanced upon the vacant stall of the local
 linux User  Group. Few  stalls away, I  chanced upon a  crowd gathered
 around  few machines/laptops.   The  machines with  the biggest  crowd
 around them were running gnu/linux in console mode. ;)

freaks are the biggest attractions in circuses ;-)


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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-12 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 --- Mahesh T. Pai wrote:

 Once at an IT exhibition, I chanced upon the vacant
 stall of the local
 linux User  Group. Few  stalls away, I  chanced upon
 a  crowd gathered
 around  few machines/laptops.   The  machines with 
 the biggest  crowd
 around them were running gnu/linux in console mode.
 ;)

 Ah, what were they demonstrating? 

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-11 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all,

the DU url mentioned earlier is up, but no press release or news of
5,000 ubuntu dualboot desktops. search produced no results either.

anybody from DU here on the mailing list, who could point us to a
press release or announcement. i am keen to slashdot and digg it.

:-)
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-09 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 00:19 +0530, Raghav Bali wrote:
 That all is really good. i myself had ordered for the cds and recieved 3
 such last week. the main problem is that my new pc( intel dual core 3.0 ghz)
 is not able to boot from these particular cds. neither is it booting from
 the earlier versions of ubuntu.
 PLs suggest any measure if possible. i tried all methods i could use(i.e.
 change first boot devices,etc).
[...]

You know, it might help if you could give us any kind of usable details.
What happens when you try to boot? Are you trying to install, or boot
from the live CD? Have you checked the integrity of the media? Is the
CD-ROM working?

Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-09 Thread Linux Lingam
On 6/9/07, Mahesh T. Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]...if someone's here from the DU
  community, could you please post this on any site, including your own
  blog or forum or DU site, so others may link to this news and let it
  be dugg?

 Yeh. It will be fantastic!!!

 See http://du.ac.in and hit ``ctrl+u'' in your browser.
[snip]


that is, when the site's up. been trying several times.
it's as responsive as i was during my days at DU after a plate of
samosas, a cup of chai, followed by a lazy afternoon class on literary
theory under a solitary, groaning ceiling fan.

:-)
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Linux Lingam
 
  am coming tomorrow to the talk by eben moglen. if anyone needs these
  cds or dvds, bring your own laptop blank media and/or hd-disk space,
  to copy-and-share further

 ubuntu? at an fsf meet? take a bodyguard
 regards

 Kenneth Gonsalves


heheee.
bodyguards? did somebody else just say novell opensuse or xandros or
something cds?

heheheee

oops!

g,d,r

am looking forward to listening to eben. the gpl3, and the recent
deals..., we live in interesting times!


:-)
niyam bhushan

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 08-Jun-07, at 10:30 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:

 just heard about 5,000 desktops moved from a proprietory os,  to
 dual-boot with ubuntu.

where

 am coming tomorrow to the talk by eben moglen. if anyone needs these
 cds or dvds, bring your own laptop blank media and/or hd-disk space,
 to copy-and-share further

ubuntu? at an fsf meet? take a bodyguard


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[ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all,

just heard about 5,000 desktops moved from a proprietory os,  to
dual-boot with ubuntu.

wow! kreegah!

this happened a month ago. let's spread the news to inspire other
academia across india.

btw, i ordered ubuntu feisty 7.04 from canonical and they shipped me
some cds: i386 and 64-bit versions. i also downloaded ubuntustudio
dvd, as it fits into about 800MB, and love using this supersexy
graphics+sound+video authoring distro.

am coming tomorrow to the talk by eben moglen. if anyone needs these
cds or dvds, bring your own laptop blank media and/or hd-disk space,
to copy-and-share further.

see ya guys.

:-)
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Roshan
--- Linux Lingam wrote:

 dear all,
 
 just heard about 5,000 desktops moved from a
 proprietory os,  to
 dual-boot with ubuntu.
 
 wow! kreegah!
 
 this happened a month ago. let's spread the news to
 inspire other
 academia across india.

If it true, it should be on their website (du.ac.in as
an announcement). Or on /. or on Linux Today or digg ;)

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Sahil Dave
i think you shud try ordering or downloading ubuntu 64 bit editions, as the
new dual core tech. emulates 2 processors...!


On 6/9/07, Raghav Bali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That all is really good. i myself had ordered for the cds and recieved 3
 such last week. the main problem is that my new pc( intel dual core 3.0ghz)
 is not able to boot from these particular cds. neither is it booting from
 the earlier versions of ubuntu.
 PLs suggest any measure if possible. i tried all methods i could use(i.e.
 change first boot devices,etc).

 Thanx
 Regards
 Raghav Bali

 On 6/8/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  dear all,
 
  just heard about 5,000 desktops moved from a proprietory os,  to
  dual-boot with ubuntu.
 
  wow! kreegah!
 
  this happened a month ago. let's spread the news to inspire other
  academia across india.
 
  btw, i ordered ubuntu feisty 7.04 from canonical and they shipped me
  some cds: i386 and 64-bit versions. i also downloaded ubuntustudio
  dvd, as it fits into about 800MB, and love using this supersexy
  graphics+sound+video authoring distro.
 
  am coming tomorrow to the talk by eben moglen. if anyone needs these
  cds or dvds, bring your own laptop blank media and/or hd-disk space,
  to copy-and-share further.
 
  see ya guys.
 
  :-)
  niyam
 
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Raghav Bali
That all is really good. i myself had ordered for the cds and recieved 3
such last week. the main problem is that my new pc( intel dual core 3.0 ghz)
is not able to boot from these particular cds. neither is it booting from
the earlier versions of ubuntu.
PLs suggest any measure if possible. i tried all methods i could use(i.e.
change first boot devices,etc).

Thanx
Regards
Raghav Bali

On 6/8/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dear all,

 just heard about 5,000 desktops moved from a proprietory os,  to
 dual-boot with ubuntu.

 wow! kreegah!

 this happened a month ago. let's spread the news to inspire other
 academia across india.

 btw, i ordered ubuntu feisty 7.04 from canonical and they shipped me
 some cds: i386 and 64-bit versions. i also downloaded ubuntustudio
 dvd, as it fits into about 800MB, and love using this supersexy
 graphics+sound+video authoring distro.

 am coming tomorrow to the talk by eben moglen. if anyone needs these
 cds or dvds, bring your own laptop blank media and/or hd-disk space,
 to copy-and-share further.

 see ya guys.

 :-)
 niyam

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 12:19:39AM +0530, Raghav Bali wrote:
#That all is really good. i myself had ordered for the cds and recieved 3
#such last week. the main problem is that my new pc( intel dual core 3.0 ghz)
#is not able to boot from these particular cds. neither is it booting from
#the earlier versions of ubuntu.
#PLs suggest any measure if possible. i tried all methods i could use(i.e.
#change first boot devices,etc).

Are you sure your CD-ROM drive is fine ? Are you able to read your CDs
in the OS you're running currently ? Which motherboard are you using ?

#
#Thanx
#Regards
#Raghav Bali

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Linux Lingam
[snip]

yes, i think it's a great idea to get this news out on to /.,
linuxjournal, digg, lxer, and loads of other places.
but it needs to be posted somewhere. so if someone's here from the DU
community, could you please post this on any site, including your own
blog or forum or DU site, so others may link to this news and let it
be dugg?

i hope the du community finds the ilug-d community warm, friendly,
helpful, and supportive in helping them migrate and grow further with
muft  mukt software integration.

i for one am all eager to listen to this story: how it all happened
from start to finish, the main torch-bearers, the problems, the
resolutions, the next step...

would be telefantasticinspiration.

:-)

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niyam bhushan

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Sudev Barar
On 09/06/07, Sahil Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i think you shud try ordering or downloading ubuntu 64 bit editions, as the
 new dual core tech. emulates 2 processors...!


Flame bit:
Cut top posting and un-snipped messages and thread hijacking!

Answer:
No you can load 32 bit o/s and works fine with dual (or more core)
64bit cpu's. The decision has to be based on what is and what is not
available in 64 bit o/s (flash et. el.) Ubuntu7.04 happily also
detects multiple/multi-core cpu's and installs smp o/s. Earlier you
had to use apt and install smp kernel.

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 [snip]

 yes, i think it's a great idea to get this news out on to /.,
 linuxjournal, digg, lxer, and loads of other places.
 but it needs to be posted somewhere. so if someone's here from the DU
 community, could you please post this on any site, including your own
 blog or forum or DU site, so others may link to this news and let it
 be dugg?

Yeh. It will be fantastic!!!

See http://du.ac.in and hit ``ctrl+u'' in your browser.

HTML
HEAD
titleUniversity of Delhi/title
META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 
meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
meta name=generator content=Microsoft FrontPage 5.0
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=windows-1252
meta name=Generator content=Microsoft Word 11 (filtered)


style
!--
 /* Font Definitions */
 @font-face
{font-family:Mangal;
panose-1:0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
 /* Style Definitions */
 p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Times New Roman;}
@page Section1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
--
/style

Wonder what /. will say to that.


 would be telefantasticinspiration.




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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Roshan
--- Mahesh T. Pai wrote:

 See http://du.ac.in and hit ``ctrl+u'' in your
 browser.

[...]

 meta name=generator content=Microsoft FrontPage
 5.0
 meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
 charset=windows-1252
 meta name=Generator content=Microsoft Word 11
 (filtered)

So, they still maintain their website using a Windows
OS. ;)

 Wonder what /. will say to that.

:-/

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread mehul
On 6/9/07, Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  meta name=generator content=Microsoft FrontPage
  5.0
  meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
  charset=windows-1252
  meta name=Generator content=Microsoft Word 11
  (filtered)

 So, they still maintain their website using a Windows
 OS. ;)


The words Frontpage and Microsoft Word there, sound
more scarier to me than the possibility of them maintaining
their website on windows.
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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Shiv

The words Frontpage and Microsoft Word there, sound
more scarier to me than the possibility of them maintaining
their website on windows.

I would rather give them the benefit of doubt (since they migrated to a 
dual-boot scenario) and think that they initially developed the pages using 
Frontpage etc and then are now hosting on a Linux Server. BtW, here's what 
their not found page says:
Not Found
The requested URL /test.php was not found on this server.


Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Server at du.ac.in Port 80










   

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Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university

2007-06-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 09-Jun-07, at 10:18 AM, mehul wrote:

 So, they still maintain their website using a Windows
 OS. ;)


 The words Frontpage and Microsoft Word there, sound
 more scarier to me than the possibility of them maintaining
 their website on windows.

be positive - they have taken the first step - reactions like this  
would just send them scurrying back


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