[ilugd] Android users here?
Hi all. How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps on your Android phone? Does maker / brand make any difference here? I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux, so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main. I am fed up of having to research a handset every time I change one, and planning to change over to Android in spite of the stiff (for a poor guy like me - a low end Android costs about one months' take home) prices. Thanks in advance. -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. --Stephen hawking ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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The best part about Android is that every single element that you store on your phone, is backed up on the cloud itself, on Google's servers. That goes for calendar entries, contacts, and emails. Now we are left with call logs, text messages, and apps. If you go to the downloaded section of Market, you should find all your purchased apps listed there, waiting for you to download, in case you are on a new phone, or recently flashed/factory reset your mobile phone. As for the call logs and sms backups, you can use *Call log backup* and *SMS backup* apps to backup up all the data in your SD card itself. On the other hand, there is a all-in-one backup app called Titanium Backup which works wonders. The paid version is absolutely worth it and costs about Rs 250. However, the free version should be good enough for you to get a feel of it. Regards, *Blog:* http://shayonpal.com *Twitter:* @shayonpal http://twitter.com/shayonpal *Mob:* +91 99589 46497 On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps on your Android phone? Does maker / brand make any difference here? I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux, so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main. I am fed up of having to research a handset every time I change one, and planning to change over to Android in spite of the stiff (for a poor guy like me - a low end Android costs about one months' take home) prices. Thanks in advance. -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. --Stephen hawking ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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The best part about Android is that every single element that you store on your phone, is backed up on the cloud itself, on Google's servers. That goes for calendar entries, contacts, and emails. ... Hmm... is that the best part? Should I trust them with my personal data? --Naresh Narang ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Naresh Narang said on Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 08:16:26AM -0800,: The best part about Android is that every single element that you store on your phone, is backed up on the cloud itself, on Google's servers. That goes for calendar entries, contacts, and emails. ... Hmm... is that the best part? Should I trust them with my personal data? Yup. Best part or not, cloud, rain, or shine, I want the data, here, on my PC, with the ability to manipulate it before sending it back to the phone. Going by posts on Nokia forums, even with Nokia phones and Nokia PC suite on one of the non-free OSes, not everything is ok. -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Yup. Best part or not, cloud, rain, or shine, I want the data, here, on my PC, with the ability to manipulate it before sending it back to the phone. Do you want to manipulate your SMSes and again save to Phone?? It doesn't sound good. You can forward.. Apart from this, what else you want to edit?? If you want to get in deep, try their android development kit, start their remote shell and play with the API. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps on your Android phone? Does maker / brand make any difference here? I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux, so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main. I am fed up of having to research a handset every time I change one, and planning to change over to Android in spite of the stiff (for a poor guy like me - a low end Android costs about one months' take home) prices. claim full freedom from the already dirty Android: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 12/20/2010 8:03 PM, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: Hi all. How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps on your Android phone? Does maker / brand make any difference here? I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux, so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main. I am fed up of having to research a handset every time I change one, and planning to change over to Android in spite of the stiff (for a poor guy like me - a low end Android costs about one months' take home) prices. Thanks in advance. I am using Android 2.1. The contacts can be exported to a single *.vcf file on the external micro SD card. G. Palaniappan ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Ravi Kumar said on Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:14:26PM +0530,: Do you want to manipulate your SMSes and again save to Phone?? It doesn't sound good. You can forward.. How about adding contacts to groups? It is a right royal pain in the bleep to open about 450 contacts manually and add them to 5 or 6 groups. My Nokia 5130 XM, purchased in January 2010 met sudden death due to a certain Mr. Issac Newton (heh!) last week. From Jan. 2010 to Dec 2010, I could not finish adding all the contacts to the groups. This requires that wammu/gammu supports the enhanced address book feature. The phone should allow wammu/gammu / whatever to write such data to it. Nokia 5130XM would allow reading, but not writing. One good thing about this model was that it allowed me to save contacts in Malayalam (yes, fonts were there in the phone), and it supported Unicode. I had to open the contact in wammu edit it, (using, for example, a name in ML) and then save it back to the phone, The phone itself would not support input methodss for languages other than HI, MR and Gujarati. Here too, enhanced phone book support was not available. On a PC, this job (manipulating the address book) would not take more than one hour. I cannot do that on the cloud. I am really a down to earth person. Support for an open format like vcf and dumping it into the memory card is a saving grace though. I guess emacs will do the editing. Apart from this, what else you want to edit?? If you want to get in deep, try their android development kit, start their remote shell and play with the API. That would be overkill. I want to learning driving; not automobile engineering. But the suggestion is welcome. I at least know that I can pay somebody to do what I want. Whether that will work in reality is something would like to know. But, hey, is it possible to do something like remote login from the PC to the android phone, like, say using wifi or bluetooth, and run an addressbook editor inside the phone? -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com It's not the software that's free; it's you. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Monday 20 Dec 2010, Shayon Pal wrote: The best part about Android is that every single element that you store on your phone, is backed up on the cloud itself, on Google's servers. That goes for calendar entries, contacts, and emails. Is that mandatory? If Android forces me to store my contact data on Google's servers, well, include me out -- Meego suddenly looks so much better! -- Raj -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: [...] claim full freedom from the already dirty Android: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ [...] Will heartily second that. I was originally worried about the possibility of bricking my phone, but the upgrade to Android 2.2 with Cyanogen went flawlessly. So, have Android 2.2 in a free system on a handset which has no official version beyond 1.6. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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2010/12/21 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org: [...] Is that mandatory? If Android forces me to store my contact data on Google's servers, well, include me out -- Meego suddenly looks so much better! [...] Thankfully, it does not force you to sync to Google's servers, and I am constantly surprised about how blithely people are willing to share their personal data. I guess that the regular reminders via spam from Orkut, etc., to this mailing list are not enough warning for some that companies do, and will make unethical use of such data. Sadly, I think that Meego is going nowhere: Too little, too late. The OpenMoko community is still somewhat active though, and there is always hope that someone might revive hardware for it. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Re: Google contacts/syncing/privacy Contacts syncing in Android is not limited to Google Servers. There are lot of different services it can sync with (e.g. gmail/facebook/twitter/funambol servers, etc). Just a contacts sync adapter is needed. This is for ease of use so that you can contact your contacts from your phone as well as web. You can even run your own server and sync your contacts data easily with that to get the best of both worlds (privacy vs ease of use). -- http://twitter.com/shantanugoel http://tech.shantanugoel.com/ http://www.safercode.com/blog/ http://blog.shantanugoel.com/ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps on your Android phone? I am syncing my address book with GMail. It is a pain to begin with but after you organise it neatly in the beginning, it works nicely. Atleast it is for me. For backing up call logs and SMS's, I am using SMS Backup+ which stores it as emails in GMail, applies labels and archives them. For backing up apps, there is Titanium Backup. But, you will need to root your phone. Also, free version has a limitation that you manually have to restore one app at a time. Pro version isn't that expensive though, it costs ~Rs 268. Does maker / brand make any difference here? Not for the above methods. I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux, so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main. I have not tried using any PC apps as yet. -- With Regards, Mehul Ved ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Gora Mohanty said on Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:38:33AM +0530,: Will heartily second that. I was originally worried about the possibility of bricking my phone, but the upgrade to Android 2.2 with Cyanogen went flawlessly. So, have Android 2.2 in a free system on a handset which has no official version beyond 1.6. Which brand / model? -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com The next best thing to knowing something is to know where to find it. --Samuel Johnson ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Gora Mohanty said on Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:38:33AM +0530,: Will heartily second that. I was originally worried about the possibility of bricking my phone, but the upgrade to Android 2.2 with Cyanogen went flawlessly. So, have Android 2.2 in a free system on a handset which has no official version beyond 1.6. Which brand / model? [...] Mine is a HTC Magic (the Google ADP2). Please see the top of http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/ for a list of supported models. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd