[ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Hi all.

How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps
on your Android phone?

Does maker / brand make any difference here?

I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux,
so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main. 

I am fed up of having to research a handset every time I change one,
and planning to change over to Android in spite of the stiff (for a
poor guy like me - a low end Android costs about one months' take
home) prices.

Thanks in advance. 

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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Shayon Pal
The best part about Android is that every single element that you store on
your phone, is backed up on the cloud itself, on Google's servers. That goes
for calendar entries, contacts, and emails.

Now we are left with call logs, text messages, and apps.

If you go to the downloaded section of Market, you should find all your
purchased apps listed there, waiting for you to download, in case you are on
a new phone, or recently flashed/factory reset your mobile phone.

As for the call logs and sms backups, you can use *Call log backup* and *SMS
backup* apps to backup up all the data in your SD card itself.

On the other hand, there is a all-in-one backup app called Titanium Backup
which works wonders. The paid version is absolutely worth it and costs about
Rs 250. However, the free version should be good enough for you to get a
feel of it.

Regards,


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On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.

 How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps
 on your Android phone?

 Does maker / brand make any difference here?

 I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux,
 so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main.

 I am fed up of having to research a handset every time I change one,
 and planning to change over to Android in spite of the stiff (for a
 poor guy like me - a low end Android costs about one months' take
 home) prices.

 Thanks in advance.

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 it is the illusion of knowledge.
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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Naresh Narang

The best part about Android is that every single element that you store on
your phone, is backed up on the cloud itself, on Google's servers. That goes
for calendar entries, contacts, and emails.

...

Hmm... is that the best part? Should I trust them with my personal data?

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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Naresh Narang said on Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 08:16:26AM -0800,:

  The best part about Android is that every single element that you
  store on your phone, is backed up on the cloud itself, on Google's
  servers. That goes for calendar entries, contacts, and emails.
  
  ...
  
  Hmm... is that the best part? Should I trust them with my personal
  data?

Yup. Best part or not, cloud, rain, or shine, I want the data, here,
on my PC, with the ability to manipulate it before sending it back to
the phone.

Going by posts on Nokia forums, even with Nokia phones and Nokia PC
suite on one of the non-free OSes, not everything is ok. 

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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Ravi Kumar
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yup. Best part or not, cloud, rain, or shine, I want the data, here,
 on my PC, with the ability to manipulate it before sending it back to
 the phone.


Do you want to manipulate your SMSes and again save to Phone?? It doesn't
sound good. You can forward..

Apart from this, what else you want to edit?? If you want to get in deep,
try their android development kit, start their remote shell and play with
the API.
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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Nagarjuna G
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all.

 How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps
 on your Android phone?

 Does maker / brand make any difference here?

 I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux,
 so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main.

 I am fed up of having to research a handset every time I change one,
 and planning to change over to Android in spite of the stiff (for a
 poor guy like me - a low end Android costs about one months' take
 home) prices.


claim full freedom from the already dirty Android: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/

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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread G. Palaniappan

On 12/20/2010 8:03 PM, Mahesh T. Pai wrote:

Hi all.

How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps
on your Android phone?

Does maker / brand make any difference here?

I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux,
so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main.

I am fed up of having to research a handset every time I change one,
and planning to change over to Android in spite of the stiff (for a
poor guy like me - a low end Android costs about one months' take
home) prices.

Thanks in advance.

I am using Android 2.1.  The contacts can be exported to a single *.vcf 
file on the external micro SD card.


G. Palaniappan

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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Ravi Kumar said on Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:14:26PM +0530,:

  Do you want to manipulate your SMSes and again save to Phone?? It
  doesn't sound good. You can forward..

How about adding contacts to groups? It is a right royal pain in the
bleep to open about 450 contacts manually and add them to 5 or 6
groups. My Nokia 5130 XM, purchased in January 2010 met sudden death
due to a certain Mr. Issac Newton (heh!) last week. From Jan. 2010 to
Dec 2010, I could not finish adding all the contacts to the groups. 

This requires that wammu/gammu supports the enhanced address book
feature. The phone should allow wammu/gammu / whatever to write such
data to it. 

Nokia 5130XM would allow reading, but not writing. One good thing
about this model was that it allowed me to save contacts in Malayalam
(yes, fonts were there in the phone), and it supported Unicode. I had
to open the contact in wammu edit it, (using, for example, a name in
ML) and then save it back to the phone, The phone itself would not
support input methodss for languages other than HI, MR and Gujarati.

Here too, enhanced phone book support was not available. 

On a PC, this job (manipulating the address book) would not take more
than one hour. I cannot do that on the cloud. I am really a down to
earth person.

Support for an open format like vcf and dumping it into the memory
card is a saving grace though. I guess emacs will do the editing. 

  Apart from this, what else you want to edit?? If you want to get in
  deep, try their android development kit, start their remote shell
  and play with the API.

That would be overkill. I want to learning driving; not automobile
engineering. But the suggestion is welcome. I at least know that I can
pay somebody to do what I want. Whether that will work in reality is
something would like to know. 

But, hey, is it possible to do something like remote login from the PC
to the android phone, like, say using wifi or bluetooth, and run an
addressbook editor inside the phone?

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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 20 Dec 2010, Shayon Pal wrote:
 The best part about Android is that every single element that you
 store on your phone, is backed up on the cloud itself, on Google's
 servers. That goes for calendar entries, contacts, and emails.

Is that mandatory?  If Android forces me to store my contact data on 
Google's servers, well, include me out -- Meego suddenly looks so much 
better!

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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote:
[...]
 claim full freedom from the already dirty Android: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
[...]

Will heartily second that. I was originally worried about the
possibility of bricking
my phone, but the upgrade to Android 2.2 with Cyanogen went flawlessly. So,
have Android 2.2 in a free system on a handset which has no official version
beyond 1.6.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Gora Mohanty
2010/12/21 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org:
[...]
 Is that mandatory?  If Android forces me to store my contact data on
 Google's servers, well, include me out -- Meego suddenly looks so much
 better!
[...]

Thankfully, it does not force you to sync to Google's servers, and I am
constantly surprised about how blithely people are willing to share their
personal data. I guess that the regular reminders via spam from Orkut,
etc., to this mailing list are not enough warning for some that companies
do, and will make unethical use of such data.

Sadly, I think that Meego is going nowhere: Too little, too late. The
OpenMoko community is still somewhat active though, and there is
always hope that someone might revive hardware for it.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Shantanu Goel
Re: Google contacts/syncing/privacy

Contacts syncing in Android is not limited to Google Servers. There
are lot of different services it can sync with (e.g.
gmail/facebook/twitter/funambol servers, etc). Just a contacts sync
adapter is needed. This is for ease of use so that you can contact
your contacts from your phone as well as web. You can even run your
own server and sync your contacts data easily with that to get the
best of both worlds (privacy vs ease of use).
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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Mehul Ved
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all.

 How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps
 on your Android phone?

I am syncing my address book with GMail. It is a pain to begin with
but after you organise it neatly in the beginning, it works nicely.
Atleast it is for me.

For backing up call logs and SMS's, I am using SMS Backup+ which
stores it as emails in GMail, applies labels and archives them.

For backing up apps, there is Titanium Backup. But, you will need to
root your phone. Also, free version has a limitation that you manually
have to restore one app at a time. Pro version isn't that expensive
though, it costs ~Rs 268.

 Does maker / brand make any difference here?

Not for the above methods.

 I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux,
 so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main.

I have not tried using any PC apps as yet.

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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Gora Mohanty said on Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:38:33AM +0530,:

  Will heartily second that. I was originally worried about the
  possibility of bricking
  my phone, but the upgrade to Android 2.2 with Cyanogen went flawlessly. So,
  have Android 2.2 in a free system on a handset which has no official version
  beyond 1.6.

Which brand / model?


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Re: [ilugd] Android users here?

2010-12-20 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gora Mohanty said on Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:38:33AM +0530,:

   Will heartily second that. I was originally worried about the
   possibility of bricking
   my phone, but the upgrade to Android 2.2 with Cyanogen went flawlessly. So,
   have Android 2.2 in a free system on a handset which has no official 
 version
   beyond 1.6.

 Which brand / model?
[...]

Mine is a HTC Magic (the Google ADP2).

Please see the top of http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/ for a list of supported
models.

Regards,
Gora

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