Re: [ilugd] Re: two questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 30 September 2003 00:34, you wrote: Hi, I tried out the two questions posed on ping and whois. I got some suspiciously funny results which I would like to share with you people. Could anyone please enlighten me further $ whois inria.fr I tried it and it works fine! I got the info plus some VeriSign copyright thingy. snip [EMAIL PROTECTED] arjun]$ ping www.case.edu.pk PING case.edu.pk (210.56.8.36) from 202.56.216.65 : 56(84) bytes of data. - --- case.edu.pk ping statistics --- 47 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss [EMAIL PROTECTED] arjun]$ whois inria.fr [whois.crsnic.net] Whois Server Version 1.3 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. No match for INRIA.FR. Last update of whois database: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:13:56 EDT NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration. TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry Services' (VeriSign) Whois database is provided by VeriSign for information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone, or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or query the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right to restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensure operational stability. VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to the Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and Registrars. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE/eTz09mAtgws7e1wRAiNNAJsHXNmWBSX2yNhs2sHBsqcSmePfRACdHFjR p5H65kMcMqFbI2TLbSw09Gw= =gDrt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: two questions
I finally got to know the reason for the mysterious occurrences regarding whois and ping. LL please give your valuable suggestions on this. There seems to be a rogue worm in the wild, aptly named [EMAIL PROTECTED] worm. Seems to infect TCP port 43 (thus affecting whois) and manipulate the server's NVT ASCII replies. The worm also injects malicious text into the ICMP packets resulting in the strange ping replies. The worm is Artificially Intelligent (mind you!) and seems to be able to do amazing things not discovered yet ... LL has already encountered one ... what about the others? You guys won't believe what happened when I tried to ping case.edu.pk again some time back. The transcript is shown below verbatim : -- $ ping www.case.edu.pk . Dude, what's your problem? Are you some kind of jerk? Or plain stupid? I don't care if you are trying to fool around with the newbies on this list, but you won't get that response using a stock ping program on any os... In fact none of the standard ping programs will ever show the data packets that are transmitted or received. Please keep these jokes outside this list. If you feel that u need to post jokes, then at least mark it as such in the subject line, so that our time is not wasted reading totally useless stuff. In case these are genuine messages that you get from your computer's ping program, consider reinstalling your os.. Ambar Roy PS: I cud not find [EMAIL PROTECTED] worm anywhere. Please provide us with some refferences... ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: two questions
Please keep these jokes outside this list. If you feel that u need to post jokes, then at least mark it as such in the subject line, so that our time is not wasted reading totally useless stuff. Personally, a bit of humour once in a while is welcome. I've been here a few months now, and I don't see the levels of humour as being so high that they impede useful discussion and learning. Just wanted to put in my ten paise worth of comment to defend the original joker. I quite enjoyed this thread. :) As an aside, I feel that all old Unix hands (as against fresh-faced Linux converts and evangelists) always recognized that Unix is a kind of (human) language of its own. Look at lines like the following: - Quick! Check...can you finger me? - Don't ping me, or I'll / your bloody *! - Can you tar it for me? If one can't see the humour implicit in this, one is almost missing the spirit of Unix. In that case, one might as well regress to the world of corporate operating systems like IBM mainframes and VAX/VMS, where commands were always verbose, meaningful, pregnant with significance, and devoid of any tongue-in-cheek anything. In an attempt to build a serious corporate brand image, they ensured you couldn't fault them with a sense of humour. (They were selling to Wall Street, you can't blame them. Black was the only colour of suits allowed.) I saw this latest thread to be a (slightly juvenile) version of that old Unix playfulness which has taught me that playful is not necessarily useless. I for one would like to see this thread of humour remain. Geek humour is usually quite refined humour. This humour makes me feel that there's humour left in this world other than the Cyrus Broacha MTV Bakraa brand of tickle-me-raucous laughter. Makes me feel that I too belong somewhere. Just my ten paise, for what it's worth. :) Shuvam PS: Sorry guys, I have a flaw in my character... tend to get a bit reflective sometimes. Age catching up. :) ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: two questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I wasn't expecting to get flamed like this on the list! Wouldn't you appreciate a bit of humour once in a while? Come on guys this list is supposed to be a community of sorts, and occasional jokes and humour wouldn't kill the spirit we share. If the general opinion is that such material should be banned from the list, it will only dampen the wonderful spirit of freedom. What do the gurus have to say on this? Regards, Bhaskar. P.S. Thanks to those who enjoyed the thread ! Here's another one for you people... The Gurus of Unix Meeting of Minds (GUMM) takes place Wednesday, April 1, 2076 (check THAT in your perpetual calendar program), 14 feet above the ground directly in front of the Milpitas Gumps. Members will grep each other by the hand (after intro), yacc a lot, smoke filtered chroots in pipes, chown with forks, use the wc (unless uuclean), fseek nice zombie processes, strip, and sleep, but not, we hope, od. Three days will be devoted to discussion of the ramifications of whodo. Two seconds have been allotted for a complete rundown of all the user-friendly features of Unix. Seminars include Everything You Know is Wrong, led by Tom Kempson, Batman or Cat:man? led by Richie Dennis cc C? Si! Si! led by Kerwin Bernighan, and Document Unix, Are You Kidding? led by Jan Yeats. No Reader Service No. is necessary because all GUGUs (Gurus of Unix Group of Users) already know everything we could tell them. -- Get GUMMed, Dr. Dobb's Journal, June '84 - -- On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 5:29 pm, Shuvam Misra wrote: Please keep these jokes outside this list. If you feel that u need to post jokes, then at least mark it as such in the subject line, so that our time is not wasted reading totally useless stuff. Personally, a bit of humour once in a while is welcome. I've been here a few months now, and I don't see the levels of humour as being so high that they impede useful discussion and learning. Just wanted to put in my ten paise worth of comment to defend the original joker. I quite enjoyed this thread. :) As an aside, I feel that all old Unix hands (as against fresh-faced Linux converts and evangelists) always recognized that Unix is a kind of (human) language of its own. Look at lines like the following: - Quick! Check...can you finger me? - Don't ping me, or I'll / your bloody *! - Can you tar it for me? If one can't see the humour implicit in this, one is almost missing the spirit of Unix. In that case, one might as well regress to the world of corporate operating systems like IBM mainframes and VAX/VMS, where commands were always verbose, meaningful, pregnant with significance, and devoid of any tongue-in-cheek anything. In an attempt to build a serious corporate brand image, they ensured you couldn't fault them with a sense of humour. (They were selling to Wall Street, you can't blame them. Black was the only colour of suits allowed.) I saw this latest thread to be a (slightly juvenile) version of that old Unix playfulness which has taught me that playful is not necessarily useless. I for one would like to see this thread of humour remain. Geek humour is usually quite refined humour. This humour makes me feel that there's humour left in this world other than the Cyrus Broacha MTV Bakraa brand of tickle-me-raucous laughter. Makes me feel that I too belong somewhere. Just my ten paise, for what it's worth. :) Shuvam PS: Sorry guys, I have a flaw in my character... tend to get a bit reflective sometimes. Age catching up. :) - -- - --- Bhaskar Dutta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = AA56 1EB5 D7E8 DD9C 298E 8F4D 375F D416 01D5 671C - --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ea4iN1/UFgHVZxwRAjE7AJ96gfKSdoeGWABChrxRFNp0ltrHvQCfX1NK TRQ2RN/yVMVb+NXTvtnY9dY= =rl1L -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: two questions
Hi, I tried out the two questions posed on ping and whois. I got some suspiciously funny results which I would like to share with you people. Could anyone please enlighten me further $ whois inria.fr Result: [translated from french by a helpful friend] Dude, You seem to be from India. INRIA is in France. Unless you have achieved geekdom, INRIA wouldn't take you as a researcher. Moreover, we don't speak english so how the hell are going to manage here?? Please don't waste your time in asking who is INRIA. Call +33 1 39 63 55 11 if you want to know more! [in plain words, lay off!] $ whois case.edu.pk Result: You seem to be from India. CASE is in _Pakistan_. Don't you know we don't admit Indian students here! Please.. [in plain words, lay off!] $ whois yahoo.com Result: YET ANOTHER HIERARCHICAL OFFICIOUS ORACLE sung: yah-ho [wanna know more ?!] What the hell is goin on? Is my computer nuts or are these standard replies?? Please help me, O knowledgeable LUGians. After the whois session, i tried ping. You guys won't believe what strange results I got! All I got was a string of pongs! Like this... $ ping www.case.edu.pk Result: pong $ ping www.case.edu.pk Result: pong pong $ ping www.case.edu.pk Result: pong pong pong $ ping www.case.edu.pk Result: pong pong pong pong $ ping www.case.edu.pk Result: pong pong pong pong $ ping www.case.edu.pk Result: AREN'T YOU TIRED PLAYING PING PONG Someone please tell me whether this is the antic of some unknown ICMP virus or something supernatural Regards, Bhaskar. --- Spoonman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:58:45AM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: SandipArshad H. Siddiqui wrote: Sandip SandipQ1. The whois utility translates between domain names and organizations. SandipRead the man page of whois and experiment it. Try whois inria.fr, whois Sandipcase.edu.pk, whois yahoo.com and give your results. Sandip SandipQ2. The ping utility can be used to measure the round trip time between SandipInternet hosts. Read the man page for details on the options used to Sandipcontrol ping. What the -s option is for? Try ping www.case.edu.pk -s, Sandipping www.geocities.com and give summary of results in each case. Looks coming straight out of a Assignement. dude, the answers are stated right inside the questions. Do what the question says RTFM. More polietly, Please Read the Fine Man page. If you have acces to a linux box just open a console/term window and type man whois man ping = --- Bhaskar Dutta [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = AA56 1EB5 D7E8 DD9C 298E 8F4D 375F D416 01D5 671C --- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: two questions
Hi, I finally got to know the reason for the mysterious occurrences regarding whois and ping. LL please give your valuable suggestions on this. There seems to be a rogue worm in the wild, aptly named [EMAIL PROTECTED] worm. Seems to infect TCP port 43 (thus affecting whois) and manipulate the server's NVT ASCII replies. The worm also injects malicious text into the ICMP packets resulting in the strange ping replies. The worm is Artificially Intelligent (mind you!) and seems to be able to do amazing things not discovered yet ... LL has already encountered one ... what about the others? You guys won't believe what happened when I tried to ping case.edu.pk again some time back. The transcript is shown below verbatim : -- $ ping www.case.edu.pk . Dude, what's your problem? Are you some kind of jerk? Or plain stupid? -- Man, THAT was offending! I was shocked. Now I am scared to ping the computer again lest I receive a plethora of abuses. I would be glad if someone helps me resolve this matter. Reports on the internet suggest that for the time being use the who_the_hell_is utility instead of whois. Also using ping with the --sco parameter (stands for Suppress Crazy Output) may curb the problem, though experts are not sure it works on all platforms. BTW did you guys know that PING stands for Packet InterNet Groper ? Regards, Bhaskar. --- LinuxLingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After the whois session, i tried ping. You guys won't believe what strange results I got! All I got was a string of pongs! Like this... okay, this gets even more weird. i tried the stated ping command, and my doorbell started going ding dong ding dong until i pressed control+c. how did they wire up my doorbell. ipv69? what the heck is going on here? LL = --- Bhaskar Dutta [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = AA56 1EB5 D7E8 DD9C 298E 8F4D 375F D416 01D5 671C --- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: two questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ghane == Sanjeev Gupta Sanjeev writes: Ghane On Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:51 AM [GMT+0800=SGT], Ghane Bhaskar Dutta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, THAT was offending! I was shocked. Now I am scared to ping the computer again lest I receive a plethora of abuses. I would be glad if someone helps me resolve this matter. Ghane Hey, you know what we Debian guys say; just do an: Ghane apt-get update apt-get upgrade Ghane This solves _all_ known problems. Debian? Oh, you must mean that distribution that recently upgraded to Linux kernel 1.2.0 in the unstable release! g,dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (Psyche) [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# apt-get update;apt-get upgrade ... Fetched 495kB in 31s (15.7kB/s) ... 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 20 not upgraded. Seriously, Apt for RPM rocks. Get it from freshrpms.net. And I have most of the latest packages from there for RH 8.0 if anyone wants them on CD -- standard rules apply. - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F All your domain are belong to us. It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iD8DBQE/ePZjyWjQ78xo0X8RAt+FAJ9yoUzVE340uU+8yt4FOyhH32ZJmwCeK+wj WdZRURFbi9XKnrLuFGOgJXk= =Yl9S -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Re: two questions
Raj Mathur wrote: Seriously, Apt for RPM rocks. Get it from freshrpms.net. And I have most of the latest packages from there for RH 8.0 if anyone wants them on CD -- standard rules apply. BTW, Have you seen this? http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/mega-merge.php - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharyahttp://www.sandipb.net sandip at puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. http://www.puroga.com ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
