Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Raj Shekhar]

Shehjar Tikoo wrote:
Hi all,

Two area(s) we can use the cluster for:

1. [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[snip]

Might I suggest using the cluster for something more mundane. A few uses 
from top of my head

- Compressing a 3 gb file using bzip2

- Resizing 500 tiffs and converting them to jpegs with ImageMagick

- Compiling Apache or any other project with a big code base.

- If we can have a game of quake2/doom that would be the best use a 
cluster can be put to ;-)

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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[vivek khurana]

--- Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Manpreet" == Manpreet Singh Nehra
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> We shall run the most popular supercomputer
> application ever: LINPACK!

 We can try other things also such as genetic
computing.


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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

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> "Manpreet" == Manpreet Singh Nehra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Manpreet> [snip]
Manpreet> Have you guys what will you be running on the
Manpreet> supercomputer you building.. Building it is not actually
Manpreet> useful till you can put it to some use... or do you even
Manpreet> plan to benchmark it

We shall run the most popular supercomputer application ever: LINPACK!

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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Shehjar Tikoo]

Hi
I agree, if its not FLOSS, then it's probably not for
us.I missed that point.

We'll have to look harder.Starting now.

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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[Manpreet Singh Nehra]

Have you guys what will you be running on the
supercomputer you 
building.. Building it is not actually useful till
you can put it to 
some use... or do you even plan to benchmark it
   

This is what we are supposed to decide in the
meeting. Let us know your availability for this sunday
1300 hrs.
 

I will available at 1300-1600 hrs on Sunday (keeping in mind the time 
required to travel in delhi)

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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[vivek khurana]

--- Manpreet Singh Nehra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[snip]
> >
> Have you guys what will you be running on the
> supercomputer you 
> building.. Building it is not actually useful till
> you can put it to 
> some use... or do you even plan to benchmark it

 This is what we are supposed to decide in the
meeting. Let us know your availability for this sunday
1300 hrs.

Regards
VK

PS: Manpreet its a good habbit to snip the non
important portions of mail.


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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[Manpreet Singh Nehra]

Manpreet Singh Nehra wrote:

linuxlingam wrote:

On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 21:36, vivek khurana wrote:
 

Hi!

Okay, guyz time to plan for the project. Lets meet
this sunday 10th April 2004 at 4:00 p.m (1600 hrs for
those who use boeing for travelling) at Delhi haat,
open air theater.   
loody hot these days. you guys wanna bake? could someone please provide
a meeting place in-doors, from the volunteers of this project? lots of
supply of drinking water preferable. later, when the evening is cooler,
you guys could go hang out post-meet wherever you like.
:-)
LL
 

I guess I will have to go over the summing up of the meeting the next 
day since it seems the time suited to most guys is 4:00 PM Sat/Sun 
while I have a class both these days at 5:00PM anyways my number is 
9891826686. I will be available if the meeting is in morning or 
afternoon about 1:00 so I can be a part of discussion/proceedings.

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building.. Building it is not actually useful till you can put it to 
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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Raj Mathur]

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Hi Shehjar,

> "Shehjar" == Shehjar Tikoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Shehjar> Hi all, Two area(s) we can use the cluster for:

Shehjar> 1. [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Search for ET Intelligence, from
Shehjar> UCB.there's a Linux version of there software availible
Shehjar> for download.We'll have to integrate it with the ISO's.

Shehjar> 2. Mersenne Prime Number search.  They too have a linux
Shehjar> download.

Thanks for the research.  If the flashmob supercomputer is doing
research (apart from running the most popular supercomputer
application: LINPACK! :) then I believe we should stick to a FLOSS
implementation.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not FLOSS, and anyway it's not a
supercomputer application: it's a grid computing application.

Shehjar> We could go further into Genomics, Seismic data analysis,
Shehjar> Web searches, Meteorological data analysis, Crash test
Shehjar> data analysis.. we could go on this way.

List of FLOSS MPI applications available?

Shehjar> With the first two we have easily availible software and
Shehjar> almost no requirements of specialized data sets, unlike
Shehjar> the ones mentioned later.

Shehjar> Also if we're looking for publicity, Prime search has got
Shehjar> the most of it.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[vivek khurana]

--- Shehjar Tikoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Two area(s) we can use the cluster for:
> 
> 1. [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Search for ET Intelligence, from
> UCB.there's a Linux version of there software
> availible for download.We'll have to integrate it
> with
> the ISO's.
> 
> 2. Mersenne Prime Number search.
> They too have a linux download.
> 
[snip]

 Thanks for the input are you coming for the meeting??

Regards
VK


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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Shehjar Tikoo]

Hi all,

Two area(s) we can use the cluster for:

1. [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Search for ET Intelligence, from
UCB.there's a Linux version of there software
availible for download.We'll have to integrate it with
the ISO's.

2. Mersenne Prime Number search.
They too have a linux download.


We could go further into Genomics, Seismic data
analysis, Web searches, Meteorological data analysis,
Crash test data analysis.. we could go on this way.

With the first two  we have easily availible software
and almost no requirements of specialized data sets,
unlike the ones mentioned later.

Also if we're looking for publicity, Prime search has
got the most of it.

Thanks
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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Shehjar Tikoo]

Hi all

May I suggest a few links on clusters.

Cluster Computing Info Centre
http://www.buyya.com/cluster/

Intro to clusters
http://sucs.swan.ac.uk/~aggie/linux/clusters/

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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Gaurav Jain]

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> >>>>> "Vivek" == vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Vivek> [snip]
>
> Vivek>  YU DONT'T NEED TO HAVE CLUSTERING KNOWLEDGE TO BE
> Vivek> PART OF THIS PROJECT . All you need is the drive.
>
> Which, hard disk, CD or floppy? ;)
>
> Anyway, may I invite you to my place this Saturday for the meeting?
> Say, 4pm?  We can get together and work out the logistics, and take a
> decision on the best place to hold the flashmob.  If everyone's
> amenable to meeting at Munirka I can post address and directions.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- Raju
> --

should be comfartable for everyone
suggest ll, vivek, mayank!! what do u guys suggest?


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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[Manpreet Singh Nehra]

linuxlingam wrote:

On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 21:36, vivek khurana wrote:
 

Hi!

Okay, guyz time to plan for the project. Lets meet
this sunday 10th April 2004 at 4:00 p.m (1600 hrs for
those who use boeing for travelling) at Delhi haat,
open air theater. 
   

loody hot these days. you guys wanna bake? could someone please provide
a meeting place in-doors, from the volunteers of this project? lots of
supply of drinking water preferable. later, when the evening is cooler,
you guys could go hang out post-meet wherever you like.
:-)
LL
 

I guess I will have to go over the summing up of the meeting the next 
day since it seems the time suited to most guys is 4:00 PM Sat/Sun while 
I have a class both these days at 5:00PM anyways my number is 
9891826686. I will be available if the meeting is in morning or 
afternoon about 1:00 so I can be a part of discussion/proceedings.

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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[vivek khurana]

--- Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Vivek" == vivek khurana
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Vivek> [snip]
> 
> Vivek>  YU DONT'T NEED TO HAVE CLUSTERING
> KNOWLEDGE TO BE
> Vivek> PART OF THIS PROJECT . All you
> need is the drive.
> 
> Which, hard disk, CD or floppy? ;)

 Cd drive, sorry for the mistake.
> 
> Anyway, may I invite you to my place this Saturday
> for the meeting?
> Say, 4pm?  We can get together and work out the
> logistics, and take a
> decision on the best place to hold the flashmob.  If
> everyone's
> amenable to meeting at Munirka I can post address
> and directions.
> 

 Good suggestion. We can meet at Raju's place on
saturday at 4 pm. Manpreet are you free???

 All the volunteers please post ypour phone numbers or
call me up at 9810759969 so that it is easy for us to
coordinate each other.

Regards
VK


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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[linuxlingam]

On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 23:14, Raj Mathur wrote:

> Anyway, may I invite you to my place this Saturday for the meeting?
> Say, 4pm?  We can get together and work out the logistics, and take a
> decision on the best place to hold the flashmob.  If everyone's
> amenable to meeting at Munirka I can post address and directions.
> 
> Regards,
> 

that's a great suggestion. thanks for the offer. what do others say?

> -- Raju

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:-)
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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[linuxlingam]

On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 21:36, vivek khurana wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>  Okay, guyz time to plan for the project. Lets meet
> this sunday 10th April 2004 at 4:00 p.m (1600 hrs for
> those who use boeing for travelling) at Delhi haat,
> open air theater. 


bloody hot these days. you guys wanna bake? could someone please provide
a meeting place in-doors, from the volunteers of this project? lots of
supply of drinking water preferable. later, when the evening is cooler,
you guys could go hang out post-meet wherever you like.

:-)
LL

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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Raj Mathur]

> "Vivek" == vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Vivek> [snip]

Vivek>  YU DONT'T NEED TO HAVE CLUSTERING KNOWLEDGE TO BE
Vivek> PART OF THIS PROJECT . All you need is the drive.

Which, hard disk, CD or floppy? ;)

Anyway, may I invite you to my place this Saturday for the meeting?
Say, 4pm?  We can get together and work out the logistics, and take a
decision on the best place to hold the flashmob.  If everyone's
amenable to meeting at Munirka I can post address and directions.

Regards,

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RE: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[Akshay Lamba]

vivek khurana wrote:

>--- Manpreet Singh Nehra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>[snip]
>
>  
>
>>Well can we have the meeting in the morning about
>>10:00-11:00 since I 
>>have a class in the evening
>>
>>
>
> then suggest an alternate venue. i don't think delhi
>haat is open at 10 in in the morning
>  
>
What time does it open

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Alternatively we can meet up at my place in gurgaon. Pretty close to
Bristol. That way we can also have the flexibility of going and seeing
the site in question here are gurgaon if need be. 

Rgrds,
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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[Manpreet Singh Nehra]

vivek khurana wrote:

--- Manpreet Singh Nehra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[snip]
 

Well can we have the meeting in the morning about
10:00-11:00 since I 
have a class in the evening
   

then suggest an alternate venue. i don't think delhi
haat is open at 10 in in the morning
 

What time does it open

If any of the enthusiast has problem wth this
 

timing
   

can write in reply to this thread. Alternatively
 

you
   

can call me(Vivek Khurana) at 9810759969 at any
 

time.
   

Regards
Vk
PS: this is an informal meeting and has nothing to
 

do
   

with main ilugd meet. 

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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[vivek khurana]

--- Manpreet Singh Nehra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Well can we have the meeting in the morning about
> 10:00-11:00 since I 
> have a class in the evening

 then suggest an alternate venue. i don't think delhi
haat is open at 10 in in the morning
> 
> > If any of the enthusiast has problem wth this
> timing
> >can write in reply to this thread. Alternatively
> you
> >can call me(Vivek Khurana) at 9810759969 at any
> time.
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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[Manpreet Singh Nehra]

vivek khurana wrote:

Hi!

Okay, guyz time to plan for the project. Lets meet
this sunday 10th April 2004 at 4:00 p.m (1600 hrs for
those who use boeing for travelling) at Delhi haat,
open air theater. 

 

Well can we have the meeting in the morning about 10:00-11:00 since I 
have a class in the evening

If any of the enthusiast has problem wth this timing
can write in reply to this thread. Alternatively you
can call me(Vivek Khurana) at 9810759969 at any time.
Regards
Vk
PS: this is an informal meeting and has nothing to do
with main ilugd meet. 

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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer(Meeting)

[vivek khurana]

Hi!

 Okay, guyz time to plan for the project. Lets meet
this sunday 10th April 2004 at 4:00 p.m (1600 hrs for
those who use boeing for travelling) at Delhi haat,
open air theater. 

 If any of the enthusiast has problem wth this timing
can write in reply to this thread. Alternatively you
can call me(Vivek Khurana) at 9810759969 at any time.

Regards
Vk

PS: this is an informal meeting and has nothing to do
with main ilugd meet. 

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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[vivek khurana]

--- Manpreet Singh Nehra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I would to be a part of your project though I cannot
> contibute any 
> resources except myself.. I did go through the book
> "Building Linux 
> clusters : Oreilly " about a year ago... which I was
> not able to 
> implement due to lack of resources. may this
> time I might be of some 
> help..

 Well if you can recall what you read you are a help
to us. Do show up fro the informal meeting this
weekend and be part of it. 
 see the major resource for this proect is you,
yourself. We will need lot of ppl to turn up with
their PC's if their systems meet the minimum
requirements we will be posting once we decide them.

 YU DONT'T NEED TO HAVE CLUSTERING KNOWLEDGE TO
BE PART OF THIS PROJECT . All you need is the
drive.

Regards
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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

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Anindya Roy wrote:

Hi

Any place will be suitable for me. and My contact Number is 9811565558

 

I would to be a part of your project though I cannot contibute any 
resources except myself.. I did go through the book "Building Linux 
clusters : Oreilly " about a year ago... which I was not able to 
implement due to lack of resources. may this time I might be of some 
help..

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Re: Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Manpreet Singh Nehra]

Anindya Roy wrote:

Hi

Any place will be suitable for me. and My contact Number is 9811565558

 

art of your project though I cannot contibute any resources except 
myself.. I did go through the book "Building Linux clusters : Oreilly " 
about a year ago... which I was not able to implement due to lack of 
resources. may this time I might be of some help..

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Subject: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Anindya Roy]

Hi

Any place will be suitable for me. and My contact Number is 9811565558

Regards
Anindya
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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Gaurav Jain]

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From: "vivek khurana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> --- Gaurav Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> > a brainstorming session is required before the
>  Guyz hurry up and decide the time and day for the
> meeting.
>
> Regards
> VK
>
>

weekend would be a ideal day.
lets meet on saturday/sunday.
if any of u guys work/stay in gurgoan/south delhi/faridabad, i can come up
anytime of day (or night)
i can be contacted at 0124-2455070 ext 227 and 9810535050

gaurav


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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[vivek khurana]

--- Gaurav Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> a brainstorming session is required before the
> event.
> lets plan asap.
> 
> also, i would suggest to use
> 1. standard linux distro with good mpi library (i am
> fond of lam) with
> network boot
> 2. a bootable cd with preconfigured settings
> 
> but then i am not very sure how many machine
> volunteers bring will have
> network boot option?
> lets start making a small inventory for this.
> 
  Certainly a brainstorming session is required, and
thats why i am asking all the volunteers to meet. We
have to have a meeting this weekend to get the ball
rolling. I belive delhi haat will be asuitable place
to meet and discuss the course of action. We can meet
this Saturday or sunday (you guyz choose it). 
 As for the volunteers not having network boot option
i will recomend using cdrom boot instead of network
boot.

 Guyz hurry up and decide the time and day for the
meeting.

Regards
VK


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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[LinuxLingam]

On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 12:23, Gaurav Jain wrote:


> let me make proper arrangements, and if number of participants/cpu is more
> clear, proper arrangements for power, cooling, refereshments can be
> arranged.
> we have a cluster of smp systems here, are will be most happy to
> participate.
> cheers
> gaurav
> 


yeah this is cool! so great to see you take charge of this, and the
several others who have volunteered, coordinate with gaurav and let's
get the ball rolling.

:-)
LL


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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Gaurav Jain]

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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:11 AM
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>
> --- linuxlingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > thanks gaurav jain. er... could your infrastructure
> > handle about 100
> > computers and its cooling? network, backup, etc? do
> > you have existing
> > computers (with cdroms) that could also be plugged
> > into this?
>
>  Thanks again Guarav. So, now when we are oing ahead
> with the cluster thingy, it will be a good idea to
> have an informal meeting of all the volunteers. How
> about having a meeting this weekend at some prime
> location??(at someone's house or some restaurent/park
> etc.)
>  I am proposing for an informal meet, so that we can
> decide the future course of action along with he
> benchmark etc. I had a chat with mayank jain(a
> volunteer) last night, he is downloading cluster
> knoppix, we can buy cd from him.
>
> Regards
> VK
>

a brainstorming session is required before the event.
lets plan asap.

also, i would suggest to use
1. standard linux distro with good mpi library (i am fond of lam) with
network boot
2. a bootable cd with preconfigured settings

but then i am not very sure how many machine volunteers bring will have
network boot option?
lets start making a small inventory for this.




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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Gaurav Jain]

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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:48 AM
Subject: RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer


> thanks gaurav jain. er... could your infrastructure handle about 100
> computers and its cooling? network, backup, etc? do you have existing
> computers (with cdroms) that could also be plugged into this?
>
> _
>
> Bandwidth available at my end too. Maybe we could rope in a couple of
> companies...we could probably get comps for a weekend. I'll download the
> flashmob iso tomorrow. CD burning should'nt be much of an issue
> either...cost of CD's can be distributed among the volunteers.
>
> Really looking forward to this.
>
> Rgrds,
> Akshay

cool akshay. we have around 50-60 pc in our office and a cluster of smp
systems.
let get rocking.





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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Gaurav Jain]

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> On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 22:27, Gaurav Jain wrote:
> > i volunteer to use my office in gurgaon
> > if its convinient for everyone, i will make the arrangements.
> >
>
>
> thanks gaurav jain. er... could your infrastructure handle about 100
> computers and its cooling? network, backup, etc? do you have existing
> computers (with cdroms) that could also be plugged into this?
>
> :-)LL
>

let me make proper arrangements, and if number of participants/cpu is more
clear, proper arrangements for power, cooling, refereshments can be
arranged.
we have a cluster of smp systems here, are will be most happy to
participate.
cheers
gaurav


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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer.(From Anindya Roy)

[vivek khurana]

--- Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hmm, I believe ClusterKnoppix doesn't have MPI, so
> maybe the CD that
> the flash mob supercomputer people have prepared
> would be a better
> idea.

  Hmm.. i was unaware of this. I would investigate
into this once i have cluster knoppix with me probably
on thursday (if somebody could lend me a cd before
that it will be great). I am in process of downloading
flashmob iso iand i will compare both once i have them
with me.
 Thanks, Raj for bringing up this point.

Regards
Vk

PS: we can try to make a live cd based on beowulf. I
have some experience with beowulf, so i can give
inputs. Any body interested in doing this with me???



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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer.(From Anindya Roy)

[Raj Mathur]

> "Vivek" == vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Vivek> --- Anindya Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The Idea Sounds really Very Cool. Can I help you guys in any
>> ways? I have some experience on setting up different Linux
>> Clusters and also I am sitting on a good bandwidth so can
>> volunteer for downloading stuffs.

Vivek>  You can start downloading clusterknoppix, if you have good
Vivek> download speed. Contact the llst after you have done so, we
Vivek> can decide on the number of copies to be mastered.

Hmm, I believe ClusterKnoppix doesn't have MPI, so maybe the CD that
the flash mob supercomputer people have prepared would be a better
idea.

-- Raju
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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[vivek khurana]

--- linuxlingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> thanks gaurav jain. er... could your infrastructure
> handle about 100
> computers and its cooling? network, backup, etc? do
> you have existing
> computers (with cdroms) that could also be plugged
> into this?

 Thanks again Guarav. So, now when we are oing ahead
with the cluster thingy, it will be a good idea to
have an informal meeting of all the volunteers. How
about having a meeting this weekend at some prime
location??(at someone's house or some restaurent/park
etc.)
 I am proposing for an informal meet, so that we can
decide the future course of action along with he
benchmark etc. I had a chat with mayank jain(a
volunteer) last night, he is downloading cluster
knoppix, we can buy cd from him.
 
Regards
VK


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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Akshay Lamba]

thanks gaurav jain. er... could your infrastructure handle about 100
computers and its cooling? network, backup, etc? do you have existing
computers (with cdroms) that could also be plugged into this?

_

Bandwidth available at my end too. Maybe we could rope in a couple of
companies...we could probably get comps for a weekend. I'll download the
flashmob iso tomorrow. CD burning should'nt be much of an issue
either...cost of CD's can be distributed among the volunteers.

Really looking forward to this.

Rgrds,
Akshay

PS: My apologies I could'nt make to the meet for march. I was supposed
to give a presentation on security tools in linux...had the presentation
ready but got caught up in a last minute family emergency. 


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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[linuxlingam]

On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 22:27, Gaurav Jain wrote:
> i volunteer to use my office in gurgaon
> if its convinient for everyone, i will make the arrangements.
> 


thanks gaurav jain. er... could your infrastructure handle about 100
computers and its cooling? network, backup, etc? do you have existing
computers (with cdroms) that could also be plugged into this?

:-)LL

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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[linuxlingam]

On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 22:25, Gaurav Jain wrote:


> >
> 
> it would also make sense to benchmark with HPL. See www.top500.org for more
> details
> i have some experience in setting it all up.
> 
> cheers
> gaurav
> 


yabba dabba dooo! another volunteer!
keep counting, guys. so its final. this event is happening.
should we set up a separate forum / discussion on the website for this,
or continue with this on the regular mailing list? given that this is
just a one-month or two-month thing, i'd recommend we continue
discussing this on this mailing list, under this thread. this way,
everyone knows what's happening and more momentum can be built.

:-)
LL

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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer.(From Anindya Roy)

[linuxlingam]

On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 18:48, Anindya Roy wrote:
> Hi All
> 
>  
> 
> The Idea Sounds really Very Cool. Can I help you guys in any ways? I have some 
> experience on setting up different Linux Clusters and also I am sitting on a good 
> bandwidth so can volunteer for downloading stuffs.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Anindya Roy 
> 
> PCQLabs


yeah! that's our tenth volunteer for this project. way to go. looks like
this is happening. anindya, since you work at pcqlabs, is it possible we
set this up supercluster up at PCQlabs/cmil. they have all the necessary
infrastructure to do this. and this kind of a closer interaction with
the linux community would also be refreshing and synergetic.

could you please ask your powers-that-be?

wouldn't that be cool? 

:-)
LL



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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[linuxlingam]

On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 08:41, vivek khurana wrote:

>  This is a pretty good idea. I had worked a bit on
> clusters, and i am volunteering for the event. But
> before we go ahead with it a lot of planing has to be
> done. 

that makes you the fifth or the sixth volunteer for this. good. this is
picking up steam.


>  The first thing we have to decide is location.
> Location needs to have a good cooling system, power
> line needs to industrial type (indian standard) as the
> cluster will eat up lot of power (We might need the
> location for the whole weekend).

location is everything. someone please volunteer for this.

>  Secondly we have to decide the size and what we have
> to do with the supercomputer. This involves some
> maths, and i will need a volunteer to help me out in
> all the calculations (basically cross check my
> calculations).

okay, i do know that a certain ajay kumar is a lecturer or a prof. of
maths at st. stephens. he migrated to delhi last year from the top
college in mumbai. he is a TeX dude, and understands linux reasonably
well. also understands and appreciates mathematics software. with that
background, i suppose he would be the ideal guy to mentor, suggest
supercomputing challenges from academia, and basically do something. i
have lost his contact details. am sure there are people on this list
from st. stephen's or have friends who study at st stephens, or
something. please could you get in touch with him, and ask him to come
online on this mailing list. he could coordinate and see this project
thru for us.

:-)
LL

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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Gaurav Jain]

i volunteer to use my office in gurgaon
if its convinient for everyone, i will make the arrangements.

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>
> --- linuxlingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> > dismantle it after a few hours. obviously.
> > someone from academia/maths/ has to help demo a cool
> > process on it and
> > then we dismantle it. this is just for kicks raj.
> > check the urls posted earlier.
> >
> [snip]
>
>  This is a pretty good idea. I had worked a bit on
> clusters, and i am volunteering for the event. But
> before we go ahead with it a lot of planing has to be
> done.
>  The first thing we have to decide is location.
> Location needs to have a good cooling system, power
> line needs to industrial type (indian standard) as the
> cluster will eat up lot of power (We might need the
> location for the whole weekend).
>  Secondly we have to decide the size and what we have
> to do with the supercomputer. This involves some
> maths, and i will need a volunteer to help me out in
> all the calculations (basically cross check my
> calculations).
>  Third the type of network, this again will be
> dependednt on the size of supercomputer and the
> processes running on the big box.
>
>  Once we decide on these, we can go ahead with few
> minor things. We have to decide on the date of event
> and start workin for this a month in advance.
>
> Regards
> Vk
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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Gaurav Jain]

i am willing to take up the responsibility.

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> [snip]date of event
> > and start workin for this a month in advance.
> >
>  Just adding, i beieve we will need a some one (with
> knowledge of clustering) to head the whole project.
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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Gaurav Jain]

- Original Message -
From: "Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "linuxlingam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > dismantle it after a few hours. obviously.
>
> elementary my dear watson !! ;-)
>
> > someone from academia/maths/ has to help demo a cool process on it
> and
> > then we dismantle it. this is just for kicks raj.
>
> could try the Mersenne Prime Number test on it though - last heard
> they had a parallel processing algorithm in place
> but do check that out pls.
>
> take care
> SM
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it would also make sense to benchmark with HPL. See www.top500.org for more
details
i have some experience in setting it all up.

cheers
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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer.(From Anindya Roy)

[vivek khurana]

--- Anindya Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Idea Sounds really Very Cool. Can I help you
> guys in any ways? I have some experience on setting
> up different Linux Clusters and also I am sitting on
> a good bandwidth so can volunteer for downloading
> stuffs.

 You can start downloading clusterknoppix, if you have
good download speed. Contact the llst after you have
done so, we can decide on the number of copies to be
mastered. 

Regards
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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

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> ps: i mentioned i have no knowhow about clusters etc, but wish to
> explore this. also, they are doing this with knoppix, as i had guessed
> in my previous email. so even windoze users can bring their pcs, network
> them, and run a live boot cd of clusterknoppix to create a
> supercomputer.

So if we are going to have the clusterParty, i got clusterKnoppix.
So no need to download.

> 
> translation: no techie knowledge required for participants and
> volunteers. just bring pc. though we would need one or two guys who
> handle the logistics and supercomputing benchmarking, etc.
> 

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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer.(From Anindya Roy)

[Anindya Roy]

Hi All

 

The Idea Sounds really Very Cool. Can I help you guys in any ways? I have some 
experience on setting up different Linux Clusters and also I am sitting on a good 
bandwidth so can volunteer for downloading stuffs.



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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Shehjar Tikoo]

Heres a volunteer if I do'nt have to format my hard
disk.
That bootable CD option seems like a better idea for
ppl like me.
Great idea.

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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

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> dismantle it after a few hours. obviously.

elementary my dear watson !! ;-)

> someone from academia/maths/ has to help demo a cool process on it
and
> then we dismantle it. this is just for kicks raj.

could try the Mersenne Prime Number test on it though - last heard
they had a parallel processing algorithm in place
but do check that out pls.

take care
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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[vivek khurana]

--- vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
[snip]date of event
> and start workin for this a month in advance.
> 
 Just adding, i beieve we will need a some one (with
knowledge of clustering) to head the whole project.

Regards
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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[vivek khurana]

--- linuxlingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> dismantle it after a few hours. obviously.
> someone from academia/maths/ has to help demo a cool
> process on it and
> then we dismantle it. this is just for kicks raj.
> check the urls posted earlier.
> 
[snip]

 This is a pretty good idea. I had worked a bit on
clusters, and i am volunteering for the event. But
before we go ahead with it a lot of planing has to be
done. 
 The first thing we have to decide is location.
Location needs to have a good cooling system, power
line needs to industrial type (indian standard) as the
cluster will eat up lot of power (We might need the
location for the whole weekend).
 Secondly we have to decide the size and what we have
to do with the supercomputer. This involves some
maths, and i will need a volunteer to help me out in
all the calculations (basically cross check my
calculations).
 Third the type of network, this again will be
dependednt on the size of supercomputer and the
processes running on the big box. 

 Once we decide on these, we can go ahead with few
minor things. We have to decide on the date of event
and start workin for this a month in advance.

Regards
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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[linuxlingam]

On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 07:08, Raj Mathur wrote:
> > "LL" == linuxlingam  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> LL> [snip]
> 
> LL> sandip, do you think you could help on this? supreet has
> LL> experimented a bit with clusters i recall. who all would like
> LL> to research and volunteer to set this up, please? i think this
> LL> is a fantastic idea.
> 
> LL> a volunteer, weekend, instant supercomputer.  a maggie,
> LL> two-minute google.  a supercomputer for the heck of it.
> 
> ...but what do we do with it?
> 
> -- Raju

dismantle it after a few hours. obviously.
someone from academia/maths/ has to help demo a cool process on it and
then we dismantle it. this is just for kicks raj.
check the urls posted earlier.

:-)
LL

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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Raj Mathur]

> "LL" == linuxlingam  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

LL> [snip]

LL> sandip, do you think you could help on this? supreet has
LL> experimented a bit with clusters i recall. who all would like
LL> to research and volunteer to set this up, please? i think this
LL> is a fantastic idea.

LL> a volunteer, weekend, instant supercomputer.  a maggie,
LL> two-minute google.  a supercomputer for the heck of it.

...but what do we do with it?

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[Fwd: Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer]

[linuxlingam]

[forward]

YO!!!

I support this...and i can dedicate time for the same 

Just tell me...when and where...i can get 2 pc's...to demo SMP Clustering...

Gimme 2 weeks to prepare for the same

Regards

Eswar
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that makes two volunteers so far, and counting.

:-)
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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[linuxlingam]

just read the faq on flashmobcomputing.

http://www.flashmobcomputing.org/misc/faq



in 1998, in germany the fire department blew snowy-cold air into the
room to keep the computers cool! yeouch!

that means, we need a building with enough pre-existing computers, loads
of spare plugs, and good power supply to take the load. it also depends
on how big our cluster is.

for instance, even if we do this with say, 50 to 100 pcs from volunteers
from ilug-d, it is worth it, and a moment in history.
the newspapers and press will cover it.

i also wonder how it will benchmark against india's existing
supercomputers.

:-)
LL

ps: i mentioned i have no knowhow about clusters etc, but wish to
explore this. also, they are doing this with knoppix, as i had guessed
in my previous email. so even windoze users can bring their pcs, network
them, and run a live boot cd of clusterknoppix to create a
supercomputer.

translation: no techie knowledge required for participants and
volunteers. just bring pc. though we would need one or two guys who
handle the logistics and supercomputing benchmarking, etc.

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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[linuxlingam]

On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 01:36, Akshay Lamba wrote:

> 
> 
> LL have a look at this. http://www.flashmobcomputing.org/
> 
> Couple of points I gather from the article:
> 
> 1. They're going to release an iso after the even. We can use the same
> iso for ilug event.

in just 12 hours this event will happen. so i'm going to tune in
tomorrow to this.



> 2. The purpose on the event is to solve or attempt to solve one problem
>  we need to decide on that.

er.. how to run the world's fastest screensaver. :-)
i don't know. we need someone from academia and research or maths to
figure this out. probably a gene, some molecular structures,
mathematical brute-forcing

they also have tools to benchmark whether the supercomputer gets into
the world's top 500.

what i really like is that 
1)they have a LAN party at the end of it.
2) you could even bring a non-linux pc. they'll run this thru a bootable
cd. how cool!
3) everyone gets a sticker/decal of participation.
4)everyone gets a teeshirt they took part in this event.

you know, i get the feeling at ilug-delhi, we *could* break the world
record to even become the fastest supercomputer cluster in the world,
but i bet tarun dua's tee-shirts for the flashmobcomputing event of
ilug-d would be in by the end of this decade.
[grinning, ducking, running]
ouch!


:-)


> 3. To really run the benchmarking tests after the pc's are in place we
> too need a gigabit network in place...either we choose to go with a
> 10/100 LAN or we need to find a place that has a g-bit switch and
> cabling !!

hmm... volunteers, wake up. linux-delhi is awake at 1:47am.
:-)

> 
> Regrds,
> Akshay


:-)
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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Akshay Lamba]

you could read thru the article at the url above. i don't have *any*
supercomputer cluster howto skills, yet. abhishek on this list had some
ideas, but he's migrated to hyderabad. am sure there are others on this
list who could show us how to do this. i know that there's a cd of
knoppix, called 'clusterknoppix' that does an amazing thing. pop copies
of the cd into each pc connected on a network and boot them to create
your on-the-boot cluster supercomputer. ymmw.

sandip, do you think you could help on this? supreet has experimented a
bit with clusters i recall. who all would like to research and volunteer
to set this up, please? i think this is a fantastic idea.

a volunteer, weekend, instant supercomputer.
a maggie, two-minute google.
a supercomputer for the heck of it.




LL have a look at this. http://www.flashmobcomputing.org/

Couple of points I gather from the article:

1. They're going to release an iso after the even. We can use the same
iso for ilug event.
2. The purpose on the event is to solve or attempt to solve one problem
 we need to decide on that.
3. To really run the benchmarking tests after the pc's are in place we
too need a gigabit network in place...either we choose to go with a
10/100 LAN or we need to find a place that has a g-bit switch and
cabling !!

Regrds,
Akshay




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Re: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Anirban Biswas]

Hi

great idea if I am in Delhi I sure bring my PC coz I am very eager to learn & 
see how a cluster works.

Anirban Biswas.

PS: But LL in previous mail you said you are not build/intrested on 
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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[linuxlingam]

On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 00:51, Akshay Lamba wrote:
> This sounds really exciting LL. Any knowledgebase available on
> "flashmob"? I can bring a box with rh9 on it.
[snip]
> 
> Linux creates first ad-hoc, temporary supercomputer
> http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/04/02/184238
> 
>  Linux will be used to create a giant, temporary supercomputer from
> normal PCs brought by volunteers to an event tomorrow in San
> Francisco
> billed as the first of its kind. "FlashMob" 
[snip]

you could read thru the article at the url above. i don't have *any*
supercomputer cluster howto skills, yet. abhishek on this list had some
ideas, but he's migrated to hyderabad. am sure there are others on this
list who could show us how to do this. i know that there's a cd of
knoppix, called 'clusterknoppix' that does an amazing thing. pop copies
of the cd into each pc connected on a network and boot them to create
your on-the-boot cluster supercomputer. ymmw.

sandip, do you think you could help on this? supreet has experimented a
bit with clusters i recall. who all would like to research and volunteer
to set this up, please? i think this is a fantastic idea.

a volunteer, weekend, instant supercomputer.
a maggie, two-minute google.
a supercomputer for the heck of it.

let's do this, guys!

:-)
LL

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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Akshay Lamba]

dear all,

this is an inspiration for a great idea. iluggers could get together,
say for the may 2k4 meet, bring their linux boxes, wire them up, and
create a 'flashmob' supercomputer. i could invite the press and write a
press release on this. someone could talk to tv channels to cover this.

read on to get inspired. people with supercomputing howto skills need to
volunteer. let's fix up a date, time, venue, and get started.



My apologies for the previous top post.

Akshay




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RE: [ilugd] ilug-d's first ad-hoc, on-the-fly supercomputer

[Akshay Lamba]

This sounds really exciting LL. Any knowledgebase available on
"flashmob"? I can bring a box with rh9 on it.

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dear all,

this is an inspiration for a great idea. iluggers could get together,
say for the may 2k4 meet, bring their linux boxes, wire them up, and
create a 'flashmob' supercomputer. i could invite the press and write a
press release on this. someone could talk to tv channels to cover this.

read on to get inspired. people with supercomputing howto skills need to
volunteer. let's fix up a date, time, venue, and get started.

***


Linux creates first ad-hoc, temporary supercomputer
http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/04/02/184238

 Linux will be used to create a giant, temporary supercomputer from
normal PCs brought by volunteers to an event tomorrow in San
Francisco
billed as the first of its kind. "FlashMob" will showcase technology
enabling ordinary people with standard PCs to create a supercomputer
in
a matter of hours. The FlashMob event is sponsored by Foundry
Networks,
Myricom, and HP. 

***

HP-lurkers on the list could help and sponsor, too.


:-)
LL

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