Re: Message to all affected

2009-02-19 Thread Charles Lenington

Wilton Shaw wrote:
> Hello,
>   Please accept my apology for my way of sending messages that created  
> problems at your end. I have made changes which I hope will correct  
> this situation. If not, don't hesitate to let me know.
> Thanks for your indulgence.
>
> Wilton
>
>
> Wilton Shaw
> whs...@verizon.net
>
>   
You fixed it! Thanks. Its funny it was just on this list.

Charles

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Re: A different mail questions

2009-02-19 Thread Michael Cazello
Thanks for the explanation Clark.



On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Clark Martin  wrote:

>
> Simple description:
> With POP you download the mail to your computer and work on it there.
> IMAP keeps the mail on a server and you just download it to read it.
>
>

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Re: A different mail questions

2009-02-19 Thread Clark Martin

michaelangelo wrote:
> I recently started using my new g-3 FlowerPower with OS 10.4, to which
> I loaded Thunderbird. (Previously I was using OS 9.2 with Entourage.)
> 
> I don't really know the different between pop-mail and imap (or other
> types of email protocols, if they exist) but I think that is where I
> am having this problem...

Simple description:
With POP you download the mail to your computer and work on it there. 
IMAP keeps the mail on a server and you just download it to read it.

> 
> I have a gmail account and a school account assigned to Thunderbird.
> The school account works fine except that the return address it gives
> people is from the gmail account. I can't seem to find a way to change
> it. I am pretty sure the school account is imap (whatever that is
> exactly). I have looked and looked in the Accounts Setup area but the
> only options for outgoing (smtp?) are the gmail account and "Default".
> I've tried both and both give my gmail addie as the return email
> address. I cannot see to find a way to change the default (if that is
> the problem).

Sending mail is independent of POP or IMAP.  SMTP is what your mail 
client uses to send mail.  You need to create a new Outgoing Mail 
setting for your school account.  You can setup each account to use the 
corresponding SMTP settings.


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How to Install Classic OS 9 Support in OS 10.3

2009-02-19 Thread imac_chips99

How to Install Classic OS 9 Support in OS 10.3

I have a iMAC G3 333 MHz, 6Gig HD, 192 RAM.

I asked earlier about install the latest firmware (version 1.2)
on my iMAC machine with MAC OS 9.

I could not get it to read the file and received an error. I tried
several
ways including uncompressing it on another MAC and then using
a USB drive to transfer it but still no luck. After several hours I
decided
to go ahead and install MAC OS 10.3. MAC OS 9 didn't seem to be
working right.

I had the MAC 10.3 install format the drive and do a fresh install but
I lost MAC OS 9.

How can I install MAC OS 9 on the same partition as 10.3? Can I just
copy a backup of my system folder and rename it something like
system9?

Once OS 9 is installed, how can I have the computer bootup in just
OS 9 without X running?

How can I tell in 10.3 exactly what version Firmware I have?

I'm told 10.3 can work without the correct updated firmware but
would have some problems with external drives, etc.

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A different mail questions

2009-02-19 Thread michaelangelo

I recently started using my new g-3 FlowerPower with OS 10.4, to which
I loaded Thunderbird. (Previously I was using OS 9.2 with Entourage.)

I don't really know the different between pop-mail and imap (or other
types of email protocols, if they exist) but I think that is where I
am having this problem...

I have a gmail account and a school account assigned to Thunderbird.
The school account works fine except that the return address it gives
people is from the gmail account. I can't seem to find a way to change
it. I am pretty sure the school account is imap (whatever that is
exactly). I have looked and looked in the Accounts Setup area but the
only options for outgoing (smtp?) are the gmail account and "Default".
I've tried both and both give my gmail addie as the return email
address. I cannot see to find a way to change the default (if that is
the problem).


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Re: OT: Is Gmail Good Enough?

2009-02-19 Thread Dan

At 12:25 PM -0800 2/19/2009, Mike Baker wrote:
>
>I see FIOS advertised over and over, but even though I live in a 
>city it's still not here.

Check with your local and state PUC for the status.  In many cases 
the delay is greedy board members trying to  do insane things.  eg: 
A local PUC here wanted V to build an olympic sized swimming pool, 
*in addition* to providing the free services to all muni, police, 
fire, and schools.  V wouldn't give, and the council wouldn't back 
down until the details hit the newspapers.

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Re: OT: Is Gmail Good Enough?

2009-02-19 Thread ./aal

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Dan  wrote:
>
> At 3:06 PM -0500 2/19/2009, Al Poulin wrote:
>>aluminum iMac, a MacBook, and an iBook accessing two e-mail
>>accounts, one for personal traffic and the other for e-lists and
>>various subscriptions.
>>
>>On February 20, Verizon FiOS will replace our Cox cable service. To
>>reduce the hassle of changing e-mail addresses in the future, I opened
>>a Gmail account for my e-lists and subscriptions using POP mail.  So
>>far, this seems to be a very nice way to go.  And lately, there seem
>>to be fewer complaints about Gmail service in the lowendmac.com lists.
>>
>>What are the downsides of using Gmail?  For our personal account, are
>>there good reasons for using a Verizon account instead of Gmail?
>


I have not used an isp provided email for over 10yrs. I have never had
to tell contacts to start using a new email.
I bought an address in 1997(yep, used to pay for them thangs) from a
now defunct company, but my pop service was grandfathered into the new
owners services.

But Gmail has been such  an innovator of webmail that I have it check
all my other services.
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Re: OT: Is Gmail Good Enough?

2009-02-19 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Feb 19, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Jim Emery wrote:

>
> Al,
>
> Gmail now supports IMAP accounts I believe.  IMAP is much better for
> accessing email accounts from multiple machines.
>
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=75725
>
> Jim

What Jim said. Rock solid and I'm getting my gmail account on three  
different macs and an iPod...

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Re: OT: Is Gmail Good Enough?

2009-02-19 Thread Dan

At 3:06 PM -0500 2/19/2009, Al Poulin wrote:
>aluminum iMac, a MacBook, and an iBook accessing two e-mail
>accounts, one for personal traffic and the other for e-lists and 
>various subscriptions.
>
>On February 20, Verizon FiOS will replace our Cox cable service. To 
>reduce the hassle of changing e-mail addresses in the future, I opened 
>a Gmail account for my e-lists and subscriptions using POP mail.  So 
>far, this seems to be a very nice way to go.  And lately, there seem 
>to be fewer complaints about Gmail service in the lowendmac.com lists.
>
>What are the downsides of using Gmail?  For our personal account, are
>there good reasons for using a Verizon account instead of Gmail?

Every mail service has their glitches now and then.

GMail has been doing quite well recently.  I'd stick with 'em.

Verizon FiOS rocks (I'm on it now).  Their email service sux; I think 
it's pharmed to Yahoo.

Like with all ISPs, keep their software away from your Mac.  You 
already have everything you need to talk.

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Re: OT: Is Gmail Good Enough?

2009-02-19 Thread Jim Emery

Al,

Gmail now supports IMAP accounts I believe.  IMAP is much better for  
accessing email accounts from multiple machines.

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=75725

Jim

On Feb 19, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Al Poulin wrote:

>
> We have an aluminum iMac, a MacBook, and an iBook accessing two e-mail
> accounts, one for personal traffic and the other for e-lists and
> various subscriptions.
>
> On February 20, Verizon FiOS will replace our Cox cable service. To
> reduce the hassle of changing e-mail addresses in the future, I opened
> a Gmail account for my e-lists and subscriptions using POP mail.  So
> far, this seems to be a very nice way to go.  And lately, there seem
> to be fewer complaints about Gmail service in the lowendmac.com lists.
>
> What are the downsides of using Gmail?  For our personal account, are
> there good reasons for using a Verizon account instead of Gmail?
>
> Many Thanks,
> Al Poulin
>
> >


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Re: OT: Is Gmail Good Enough?

2009-02-19 Thread Mike Baker
I see FIOS advertised over and over, but even though I live in a city it's 
still not here.
I have some of my email sent to my gMail account and have my gMail account set 
up to forward email to my Verizon account.

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, Al Poulin  wrote:

From: Al Poulin 
Subject: OT: Is Gmail Good Enough?
To: imaclist@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 3:06 PM

We have an aluminum iMac, a MacBook, and an iBook accessing two e-mail  
accounts, one for personal traffic and the other for e-lists and  
various subscriptions.

On February 20, Verizon FiOS will replace our Cox cable service. To  
reduce the hassle of changing e-mail addresses in the future, I opened  
a Gmail account for my e-lists and subscriptions using POP mail.  So  
far, this seems to be a very nice way to go.  And lately, there seem  
to be fewer complaints about Gmail service in the lowendmac.com lists.

What are the downsides of using Gmail?  For our personal account, are  
there good reasons for using a Verizon account instead of Gmail?

Many Thanks,
Al Poulin





  
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OT: Is Gmail Good Enough?

2009-02-19 Thread Al Poulin

We have an aluminum iMac, a MacBook, and an iBook accessing two e-mail  
accounts, one for personal traffic and the other for e-lists and  
various subscriptions.

On February 20, Verizon FiOS will replace our Cox cable service. To  
reduce the hassle of changing e-mail addresses in the future, I opened  
a Gmail account for my e-lists and subscriptions using POP mail.  So  
far, this seems to be a very nice way to go.  And lately, there seem  
to be fewer complaints about Gmail service in the lowendmac.com lists.

What are the downsides of using Gmail?  For our personal account, are  
there good reasons for using a Verizon account instead of Gmail?

Many Thanks,
Al Poulin

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Re: iMAC models 233/266/333 MHz can't boot from USB

2009-02-19 Thread SoloSalsa

That ultimate boot cd is probably for Intel machines, not PPC.  You
certainly can boot from the optical drive, though.  I have used a 2gig
flash drive with OS 9, but the experience was just aweful (it was
formatted as FAT32).  OS 9 would stall for a few minutes after
insertion, and would not boot properly if the drive was attatched.
Perhaps it would work better formatted for Macintosh instead of
Windows.  But from my experience, I recommend a drive smaller than
2gigs.

On Feb 18, 5:38 am, imac_chips99  wrote:
> I know iMAC G3 models 233/266/333 MHz can't boot from USB but can I
> make
> a boot CD with OS 9.1, 9.2.2 or 10.X that would have utilities (HDD
> repair, computer info, backup & restore programs to restore an image
> from a USB
> drive, etc)
>
> How would I make a Booting CD with MAC OS and programs I can run from
> either this CD or a USB drive that has a back up image, etc?
>
> The Tray Loading iMAC's only has USB (that you can't boot from) and
> NO Firewire.
>
> What is the MAX. USB drive size with MAC OS 9.1 and MAC OS 10.3?
>
> Will any USB jump drive or HDD work with the original G3 iMAC models?
>
> I'm just learning how to use Apple computers but in the PC world they
> use
> a self booting CD called a "Ultimate Boot CD" that includes software
> tools
> for Tests, System Information, Hard Disk Installation Tools, Hard
> Disk
> Cloning Tools, Anti-Virus/Malware Tools, Network Tools, Boot
> Managers,
> etc.
>
> If a user has problems with his/her computer, he/she can boot from a
> CD and
> test/repair/restore from a user backup without reinstalling the OS
> from a
> new fresh install, etc. This is great if you don't have the original
> CD's, you can
> Back up your OS and software so if you have a problem and the computer
> can't boot from the HDD, you can boot from a special CD and restore
> back
> to your original snapshot.
>
> Would MAC users have something like that for the Original G3 iMAC?
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Re: Removing Classic OS 9 Support From OS X

2009-02-19 Thread lrbarrios

On Feb 18, 2:16 am, Kyle Parish  wrote:
> In system prefrences, you should see a button that says startup
> disks.  Click on it and you should see os9 and OSX.  I believe you should be
> able to delete it from there.
>
>

Kyle, there is no option to delete, or otherwise remove, OS 9 using
Startup Disk.


On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Al Poulin  wrote:
>
> > In System Preferences, the Classic preference, in the Start/Stop pane,
> > do you see a message "Classic is not running"?  You can stop Classic
> > there.  If it will not stop, look for any OS 9 applications that may
> > be running.  Make sure TextEdit, TeachText, or whatever, is not
> > running.  You may have to force quit an application.
>
> > Al Poulin
>

Al, I've made sure Classic is not running.  I don't have any Classic
applications to run, I just wanted to see if Classic would run (and
boot).  Now that I've seen it work, I would like it gone.  I used
Brian Troisi's suggestion to use Cmd+S at startup.  Instead of
actually deleting the "System Folder" directory, possibly causing
irreversible damage to the file system, I opted to rename it with the
'mv' command.  I used
mv -v "System Folder" Lonnie
I verified that the change was made and then did
exit
OS X continued to boot as normal.  Now, the OS 9 System folder (the
one  with the big 9 on it) reflects it's new name of 'Lonnie'.
Startup Disk still recognizes it as a bootable OS folder.  Also, I get
the same error, as usual, when trying to drag it to the Trash: The
operation could not be completed because item "Lonnie" is required by
the System.  I can still start Classic mode.  It appears that I
haven't broken anything.

Something interesting that I just noticed.  It's probably not related
to the issue though.  On this machine I turned on 'Show Classic status
in menu bar'.  I can see the icon in the menu bar change from light
grey (Classic OFF) to a darker grey, maybe black (Classic ON).  On
another machine, at home, I could swear that the Classic ON icon in
the menu bar was colored with the orange-ish number 9.  If it wasn't
an iMac at the house, then it was a Titanium at the house (also
running 10.4.11).  The difference between these two machines, OS-wise,
is that this one's OS 9.2.2 was installed from an iMac G5 Tiger CD and
the machine at home got it's OS 9.2.2 'dragged to it' from a backup of
another OS 9.2.2 machine.  NOTE: For some reason, I cannot boot to OS
9 on the latter machine.

Back to the original question... Can I just boot back in Single User
Mode and whack this OS 9 folder without causing any problems?
Personally, I wouldn't care if it stayed visible.  But in the end,
this machine will be going to someone else who probably doesn't need
the extra confusion of a second OS.

Thanks,
Lonnie.
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