Re: best unix-like system for my imac?
On 14 Feb 2010, at 23.09, Clark Martin wrote in part: Official support for PPC under Ubuntu disappeared a while back. But there is a community supported version that is current. Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up. I was able to install 6.06 but would prefer a more recent version; glad to know i can still use one on PPC. I just tried putting it on a Sawtooth. The Live CD worked, briefly... Seems with 9.10 there is some issue about the iso being too big to burn onto a single cd? I don't have a dvd burner. Is there something I'm missing here? Thanks for the info! -bill -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: best unix-like system for my imac?
I am puzzled why no one here has suggested any reference to the MaXlist. It would seem to be the logical list to refer to as I assume the 239 members there are well versed on this subject. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
The reason that One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:50 AM, tyltotheler92 tyltothele...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If you have a Western Digital Hard Drive inside in that iMac, that problem will arise. There is an issue with certain firmware versioins on the slot loader iMac G3s that would conflict with 6-80gb Western Digital Caviar HDs. Has this hard drive been replaced at any time? You may want to look at a Seagate or something to replace it with. Its not a fixable though. However, the Harddrive hasn't gone bad, its just a bug with SMART, and in any other computer it will work fine. -Tyler On Feb 15, 12:25 am, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
The reason that I will sleep my iMac during boot is that I sometimes will have to use my keyboard and mouse for other computers and I'll forget that there's no keyboard or mouse so I'll sleep it during boot. As far as I know, it is the stock internal drive. Is it safe to replace a hard drive on a G3? I am sleeping it by pressing the power button. The power light will pulse amber, but you can tell that the hard drive us pulling power because it will flicker when the HD revs up. One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:50 AM, tyltotheler92 tyltothele...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If you have a Western Digital Hard Drive inside in that iMac, that problem will arise. There is an issue with certain firmware versioins on the slot loader iMac G3s that would conflict with 6-80gb Western Digital Caviar HDs. Has this hard drive been replaced at any time? You may want to look at a Seagate or something to replace it with. Its not a fixable though. However, the Harddrive hasn't gone bad, its just a bug with SMART, and in any other computer it will work fine. -Tyler On Feb 15, 12:25 am, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
'sleep while booting up'... yeah right sounds like this guy is pranking... Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
Well, I am in a situation where I don't have a keyboard for my iMac. I forgot that I didn't have a keyboard and my mac is glitchy (I can't turn it off through a menu or it will restart itself). I did not feel like forcing it to turn off by holding the power button in, so I put it to sleep before it fully booted. For example, programs that start up at boot my not be fully loaded before I would sleep it. Parts if the interface may also not be loaded. I would also appriciate it if you could not criticize me as I am not a mac expert. Just a mac lover ;) One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: 'sleep while booting up'... yeah right sounds like this guy is pranking... Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
To be more clear, I mean that the finder and GUI are still loading. I do nit mean that I am trying to sleep while on the apple logo or somthing like that. One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: 'sleep while booting up'... yeah right sounds like this guy is pranking... Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Mike Styer wrote: Well, I am in a situation where I don't have a keyboard for my iMac. I forgot that I didn't have a keyboard and my mac is glitchy (I can't turn it off through a menu or it will restart itself). I did not feel like forcing it to turn off by holding the power button in, so I put it to sleep before it fully booted. Why are you sleeping it? The Mac doesn't need a keyboard to boot. Just plug in the keyboard when you dig it up and need to use the iMac. BTW, any old USB Keyboard Mac or Windows will work with your iMac; there are even programs to properly swap the control and command keys around on Windows keyboards. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
No problem Bill. Anyway, I was sleeping it because I had te urge to use it, started it up and then realized that I didn't have a keyboard for it at the moment :) anyway, does anyone know why the HD might rev up during sleep mode? BTW, I just checked in system profiler and it is actually a Maxtor 10 GB drive. The person who I bought it from must have upgraded the HD before I bought it on eBay. I wonder why it acts strange during sleep mode sometimes... One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: It just sounded suspicious. My bad. To be more clear, I mean that the finder and GUI are still loading. I do nit mean that I am trying to sleep while on the apple logo or somthing like that. One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: 'sleep while booting up'... yeah right sounds like this guy is pranking... Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Can G4 boot from flash drive?
No; G3's, G4's and G5's won't boot to USB devices without some very extensive work on the external device. I've tried before to do this with an external USB HD, without any luck. Too bad they never made FireWire thumb drives... You can't boot from a disk image, because in order to open that image, the computer has to be booted into an OS already. Your best bet is an external FireWire HD. -Elliott Price Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services hobbittech.com/quoit On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:16 AM, williamd wrote: Just wondering whether my imac G4 can boot to an os or iso on a usb flash drive? Is there a way to force it to do so, instead of booting to the hd? Or, if the hd is not formatted and no cd is present, will it just see and boot to the usb flash drive? Thanks. -bill -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
Just a couple of things: It's probably not a good idea to sleep it before it's fully loaded, just wait a few seconds for everything to load, and then put it to sleep if you're not going to use it. Like others have said, that just happens with some HD's in those iMacs. My little brother had an iMac with this problem, and we just swapped out HD's and it worked fine. If you have any extra IDE HD's around, you can try one of those see if the problem goes away. -Elliott Price Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services hobbittech.com/quoit On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Mike Styer wrote: No problem Bill. Anyway, I was sleeping it because I had te urge to use it, started it up and then realized that I didn't have a keyboard for it at the moment :) anyway, does anyone know why the HD might rev up during sleep mode? BTW, I just checked in system profiler and it is actually a Maxtor 10 GB drive. The person who I bought it from must have upgraded the HD before I bought it on eBay. I wonder why it acts strange during sleep mode sometimes... One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: It just sounded suspicious. My bad. To be more clear, I mean that the finder and GUI are still loading. I do nit mean that I am trying to sleep while on the apple logo or somthing like that. One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: 'sleep while booting up'... yeah right sounds like this guy is pranking... Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
Yeah, your probably right... Anyway, is it hard to swap the hard drive of an iMac G3 slot loader? And more importantly, is it dangerous? One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: Just a couple of things: It's probably not a good idea to sleep it before it's fully loaded, just wait a few seconds for everything to load, and then put it to sleep if you're not going to use it. Like others have said, that just happens with some HD's in those iMacs. My little brother had an iMac with this problem, and we just swapped out HD's and it worked fine. If you have any extra IDE HD's around, you can try one of those see if the problem goes away. -Elliott Price Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services hobbittech.com/quoit On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Mike Styer wrote: No problem Bill. Anyway, I was sleeping it because I had te urge to use it, started it up and then realized that I didn't have a keyboard for it at the moment :) anyway, does anyone know why the HD might rev up during sleep mode? BTW, I just checked in system profiler and it is actually a Maxtor 10 GB drive. The person who I bought it from must have upgraded the HD before I bought it on eBay. I wonder why it acts strange during sleep mode sometimes... One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: It just sounded suspicious. My bad. To be more clear, I mean that the finder and GUI are still loading. I do nit mean that I am trying to sleep while on the apple logo or somthing like that. One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: 'sleep while booting up'... yeah right sounds like this guy is pranking... Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
Nope, and nope. There's four screws on the underside, then 6 or so screws on the RF shield, then 4 on the HD. Here's a fairly decent one, it starts on page 18: http://www.scribd.com/doc/103447/iMac-G3-Disassembly-Guide A couple of things: Be careful with the tabs on front, I haven't found a good way to take it off reliably without breaking these... Just be gentle, and maybe if you have something to stick in and release the clips, that might help. If you do break them though, it doesn't Be careful not to let the screws from the RF shield (EMI shield in the guide) fall down inside the computer! You won't see them again, and they can cause shorts in the video circuitry. Use a magnetized screwdriver to prevent that from happening. -Elliott Price Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services hobbittech.com/quoit On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Yeah, your probably right... Anyway, is it hard to swap the hard drive of an iMac G3 slot loader? And more importantly, is it dangerous? One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: Just a couple of things: It's probably not a good idea to sleep it before it's fully loaded, just wait a few seconds for everything to load, and then put it to sleep if you're not going to use it. Like others have said, that just happens with some HD's in those iMacs. My little brother had an iMac with this problem, and we just swapped out HD's and it worked fine. If you have any extra IDE HD's around, you can try one of those see if the problem goes away. -Elliott Price -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Mike Styer mstye...@yahoo.com wrote: The reason that I will sleep my iMac during boot is that I sometimes will have to use my keyboard and mouse for other computers and I'll forget that there's no keyboard or mouse so I'll sleep it during boot. As far as I know, it is the stock internal drive. Is it safe to replace a hard drive on a G3? I am sleeping it by pressing the power button. The power light will pulse amber, but you can tell that the hard drive us pulling power because it will flicker when the HD revs up. Why the Dire need to sleep during boot just because it's missing it's keyboard and mouse? They're USB, so it'll see them once your plug them in. it's not like ADB where it's bad to hot plug. It is safe to replace the HDD in a G3: I did mine about a month ago, just remember that if you're using a tray load iMac, then you'll have to partition the drive into 2 pieces if it's above (IIRC) 8gb, and install the WHOLE OS on the first 8GB, but you can save all your programs and files to the 2nd partition (Flaw\feature in the IDE controller IIRC) Does it do this behavior when the you sleep it after fully booting? -- -Proudly Sent from a Windows PC -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
You said you're new to mac?... fyi re keyboards and such, on usb-macs they're 'hot-pluggable', so don't panic if you start up without a keyboard or mouse attached which is what i do occasionally (i have a 4-mac lan, and every few months swap in my G3 iMac in place of my G4 powerbook and also switch back 'mid-stream' to a traditional mouse when i need more control of the cursor than what i get from my logitech marblemouse trackball and am too lazy to fire up my old pm 8600 which has my wacom tablet) Mike Styer wrote: No problem Bill. Anyway, I was sleeping it because I had te urge to use it, started it up and then realized that I didn't have a keyboard for it at the moment :) anyway, does anyone know why the HD might rev up during sleep mode? BTW, I just checked in system profiler and it is actually a Maxtor 10 GB drive. The person who I bought it from must have upgraded the HD before I bought it on eBay. I wonder why it acts strange during sleep mode sometimes... One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: It just sounded suspicious. My bad. To be more clear, I mean that the finder and GUI are still loading. I do nit mean that I am trying to sleep while on the apple logo or somthing like that. One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: 'sleep while booting up'... yeah right sounds like this guy is pranking... Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: best unix-like system for my imac?
On 2/15/10 12:34 AM, williamd wrote: On 14 Feb 2010, at 23.09, Clark Martin wrote in part: Official support for PPC under Ubuntu disappeared a while back. But there is a community supported version that is current. Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up. I was able to install 6.06 but would prefer a more recent version; glad to know i can still use one on PPC. I just tried putting it on a Sawtooth. The Live CD worked, briefly... Seems with 9.10 there is some issue about the iso being too big to burn onto a single cd? I don't have a dvd burner. Is there something I'm missing here? Not as far as I can see, no. I ran into the same thing. The file was in the right size range for CD but Disk utility rejected the two CD-Rs I had, both were 700Mb. It did work when I put in a DVD-R and the target computer booted it okay. Seems kind of strange to make something that close to CD size but not quite. And there was no note about it (that I noticed) at the download site. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac DV 500 - Firmware/Classic Questions
On 2/15/10 5:33 PM, cduchon wrote: When I tried to run the install of Net Boot it failed with a general error... based on what you are saying it sounds like I dont actually install the software. Just copy the System Folder to the hard drive and then point the firmware updater to that folder? Copy the System Folder over, reboot from that System Folder (hold down option during boot and select the OS 9 icon), then run the firmware updater. You have to have OS 9 on an HD and be booted from it to run the updater. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac DV 500 - Firmware/Classic Questions
On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:33 PM, cduchon wrote: When I tried to run the install of Net Boot it failed with a general error... based on what you are saying it sounds like I dont actually install the software. Just copy the System Folder to the hard drive and then point the firmware updater to that folder? Yes. Buried somewhere in the LEM list archives is a step-by-step process, but in the end you just copy the System Folder you find to where it needs to go. There's also a login associated with it; google for Mac OS 9 free NetBoot and you should find a buncha links. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: best unix-like system for my imac?
On 2/14/10, williamd willi...@wyoming.com wrote: On 14 Feb 2010, at 08.52, Tim wrote: I have a 700 MHz G4 eMac that I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 on. I've been reading about Ubuntu but I thought anything past 6.01 or so needed to be on an intel machine? Maybe I misread something? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/9.10/release/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-powerpc.iso although I personally recommend yellowdog Linux (www.yellowdoglinux.com) with the caveat that I haven't used it for a while and I just checked their website and it seems it is now maintained by a different company so I'm not quite sure what's going on there. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
